Water Collection and Disinfection Summarized

[@daveyjones4555]

heres a easy way to remember the ratio for bleach.."You must be 21 to drink"! 2 drops of bleach per 1 liter/quart of water.. the US legal drinking age is 21 so its easy to remember also the wait time is 30 mins.. so 2+1=3! Great videos Dave keep them comming!

[@fredrikkeate411]

"Guess I'm bleeding a little bit and didn't notice" - A man's man.

[@theShepardsPath]

One of the most important videos on the subject. thank you. after myself suffering a water injury at class, this has become one of my number 1 lessons hard learned. I am very privileged to have a teacher who stresses such teachings.

[@MarkNovy]

My wife and I had this discussion just yesterday and her comment was "Well, how long do you boil water. No one has ever said that." So once again Dave the "mind_reader" has yet again come back with answers. She had to watch this twice. Quite informative and definitely worth knowing> Spot on Dave..

[@markbeaudon8852]

Great video. I like your practical approach and that you don't sugar coat the risks. Well researched and informative. Mark

[@Shooter11B]

Dave, I was always under the impression that it is better to strain out the gross particulates no matter what prior to any treatment because the nasties can hide within the bigger particulates safe from chemical treatment and even heat. So for me, that extra step seems logical. Thoughts?

[@futuresonex]

Great video! Like you I always boiled my water whenever it was an option, but unfortunately in the western half of the country campfires are often outlawed which makes it very unpractical to boil all of your water, especially when travelling with a group. The fuel requirements are just too high. The filter that I always used was the MSR Sweetwater which filters down to 0.2 microns. That's small enough to stop pretty much all of the giardia & cryptosporidium. It won't stop some viruses though.

[@CounterNerd]

I really liked your PSA at the end about drinking water and taking that risk instead of taking a bigger risk of dying of dehydration.

[@bangalorebobbel]

Great summarizing, thanks a lot Dave. As usual I agree, only a minor detail 13:20 I do different if possible: I filter any surface water before I boil it, especially after rains. The reason is that such water may contain small plant particles like little pieces of bark or leaves etc. They may have contents like alkaloids, tannins or resins which are soluble in water at higher temperatures, means especially boiling such things is not suggested if one doesn't want that stuff. rgds, Robert

[@Ozarkwonderer]

it would be nice to see the triple tear filter you mentioned so we could understand the mechanics of such a thing

[@flipstyle1983]

I really missed the survival aspect of your channel. I'm glad it is coming back a bit. Another great vid

[@Jixton]

Good info in that video. Thx Dave. The best advise there is : Take precotion but it's better to be found alive and sick from the water then dead becose you did not drank. I has been in this type of situation where i had to drink, i was lost and in badshape from the heat. I decided to drink green moskito water that was there and no clean water was available. I took a chance but to drink unclean water saved me and gave me the energy to get back to my truck and go home. I was lucky to not get sick.

[@KungFuTweety1]

i like how u always call a spade a spade and u always use common sense to cut thru the marketing hype! its much appreciated! :-)

[@catdiesel7302]

I learn something with every video Dave!!! Thank you and keep them coming. Great job sir!!

[@angryfishmonger]

Great video. Very to the point and easy to follow.

[@shcmoly]

32oz for keeping disinfecting in mind, nice bottle Dave. The bandana works good as a filter too.

[@wmatt1983]

There is a product out there that I originally bought from cheaper than dirt called the Bugout Bottle. it has a 0.2 micron monolithic filter in it. I have several of them and they work great. I live in AZ and spend quite a bit of time in the mountains. I have used it many times and never gotten sick. They used to be 11 dollars bottle and filter. CTD doesnt have them in stock anymore but I highly recommend them if you can find them. Maybe you can offer them on your website if you can find them.

[@tempwayfarer]

Thank you Dave for all you do, your KZbins are precious, valuable and since I am a yahoo answers junkie, hardly a day goes by when I don't post one or more of your links to answer camping questions. Have bought quite a few things from your PF store and the SS bottle/cup/"stove" and canvas holder are primary among my hiking/survival kit. I am a recent (5 years now) transplant to Cincinnati, after a lifetime in Southern California and backpacking around the American Southwest (desert). Water!

[@giddingsme]

Great point on keeping the lid off until you boil to keep from contaminating the lid

[@DiyEcoProjects]

Hi dave, thanks for your brilliant videos... Got me thinking. If you know your going on a big hike and will need to gather water, and can afford the space in your pack - how about buying another metal bottle, build up layers in it like charcole, find sand, charcoal, grany sand... and then hole in bottom. The other thing youll need is a plastic bag type with dripper. That way got own filtration device and you can hang both in a tree. bag container pours into filter, pours into bottle for boiling?

[@TheStig000]

Great advice at the end of the video. Most people only talk about how important clean water is. Yeah, it is important. But if you have to choose between sickness and death, choose sickness every single time!

[@robe1kanobe]

Good stuff Dave....Thanks. Hey quick question I'm making my own tincture of Iodine from black walnut hulls. First of all, how long should I let my tincture sit to get to proper strength.... and 2nd...when you say 2% tincture of iodine I'm under the impression it means 2% of the 32 ounces. If, when you get time you could elaborate on this or direct me to one of your vids already in existence I'd appreciate it. I 'll keep looking for info on this as well. Take care.

[@gimponatrip425]

Always appreciate you spreading the knowledge

[@DavidWestBgood2ppl]

Like you said chemical contaminated waters are something to consider. The Town Creek runs right through my back yard. It should be boilable and drinkable... 2 miles downstream though a factory in the 60s contaminated the creek with PCBs. It flows for miles till it gets to Lake Hartwell. A huge lake, but, it's sediments are so contaminated, that we can't even eat the fish... SAD!!! Thorough explanation as usual. Thanks.

[@semco72057]

I have two canteens to collect water in and clean it as much as possible. One canteen has a tube to collect it and a bag to store it in. The filter in the canteen will remove the common contaminants and I have drank water from a moving stream before and it tasted sort of sweet and was nice and filled my thirst. I have tried to stay away from stagnant water sources due to the problems of more contaminants.

[@NorthWoodsAmbient]

I generally don't do much primitive survival stuff - just because what I do is pleasure backpacking - so I never really build a fire. But my tiny trail stove works perfectly for boiling. I've never gotten sick from any water I've filter/boiled.

[@LesDempseySoloLesta]

thank you for clearing up that issue of boil time. I've heard different times and never knew why.

[@EatCarbs]

Great stuff. What do you think about carrying a spare lid.. one clean and one dirty. As long as you were able to mark them somehow so you wouldn't get them mixed up. Thanks for the video

[@kill3rgreen]

Thanks Dave, the sharing of your wisdom and knowledge are greatly appreciated

[@Angryconsumernerd]

one of the best survival videos I've ever seen thank you for sharing your knowledge I favorited this video and I will be sharing it

[@TragicII]

very informative. these videos will save my life one day. thanks dave.

[@paoloUAE]

I would be a great idea explaining a bit about filters performance and degrading factors, absolute porosity, Log reduction (99.9 and above) and the sizes of the crawlies.

[@TBOR101]

7Nampan, the idea for moving water collection is look at how a gold sluice box works, Water flowing over the edges of rocks or whatever causes the heavier objects to sink. Still water will allow objects to float just under the surface, bug larvae, dead animal parts, you name it.

[@stephenwilkinson3748]

This may sound reduntant but could you do a movie about your whole camp set up. From start to finish. One thing I have always wondered was how close your fire is to your hammok or what have you. Would just be interesting and helpful.

[@betterdesignservices]

Yes leptospirosis is killed during the boiling process, it doesn't actually need to come to a full boil to die, but I would recommend boiling anyhow to make sure

[@crill777]

To get 32 oz. in the Pathfinder bottle. When you say the "top" do you mean the brim or to where the neck starts? I have a number of your products (the bottle as well) and they are great. Thanks!

[@taneilman]

Great video. There were a couple of videos before this one that were removed. Are you redoing them or are they gone?

[@thepumpkinking9756]

Thanks for the great vid Dave, keep up the awesome work brother

[@NewlyAwakened]

Dave, search for the "Home Made PVC Water Filter" youtube video by Colhane. I made a few of these and was wondering what you think of them. Basically a pvc pipe filled with activated charcoal, fish tank filter material and screen on the ends. I would still plan on pre-filtering, and boiling/chem treating post but overall seems like a very neat DIY and CHEAP way to make a good filter yourself.

[@davidbrewer4669]

Dave, I understand the need to save iodine for medicinal purposes but you also said that there is more pathogen resistance with the chlorine. Are you saying the potential medicinal effect of the iodine trumps the potential failure of the chlorine? Thanks again for another great video.

[@Vx777infonet]

Good vid Mr. Dave, sometime I would like to see some samples tested near farm fields to see whats in it.

[@sargefaria]

Nice run down and explanations brother

[@MeetMeOutside]

Great job Dave . Well done. Thanks for sharing.Peace

[@kullcraven]

So i have a 1 litre stainless steel water bottle.Which is alil bigger then a quart. I was thinking of using chorox bleach. It takes 2 drops per quart or liter and you wait 30 mins. They also say it should have a lil hint of chlorine taste, that way you know you have used enough. To be honest i have never purified water besides boiling, but that was my back up plan. Great video, and i have one other idea, i may make a vid on, so will reveal at another time . take care Dave

[@Magician1263]

Dave what is your opinion on the Stanley Adventure Multi Use Bottle? i know its a 2 piece bottle, but its 32 oz, and the metal part can be used to boil. and i use a Sawyer PointTwo filter that filter out down to virus size (02 Micron)

[@WalshiesWoods]

good to know, nerbiebun. I always wondered about those Lifestraws, as a back up. Thanks for the heads up.-rye

[@222Mission]

Good solid information here . Water is so important . Thanks much

[@jtheiben]

if you want to boil cook your small game do you have to boil the water first or can you put meat in water before it has boiled?

[@DOGMA1138]

What about solar disinfection? You can always carry a transparent container to use the sun to disinfect the water. This works even in winter as the disinfection relies on the amount of UV radiation absorbed by the bacteria rather than heat. The only problem i can see is that it takes between 6 to 48 hours of exposure but it beats most other methods, especially the chemical ones.

[@TripleAAA53]

Thx Dave ! OUTSTANDING BRIEF !!

[@gordonlawrence3537]

Interesting presentation of common sense. Personally I take 3 water containers. 1 for boiling, one for taking the boiled water after it has cooled and a "bulk bag" type water bag that can take 15 liters. Would take you all day to fill it using the boil method but 15 liters is enough for 5 days in a cool climate. Then again I tend to carry a bit more than is strictly needed.

[@morris4069]

I used to live in Dayton Ohio and we had some trails along the Mad River where the wether would run through the rocks. I always thought you were ok if the water came through the rocks? Drank water this way lots of times with no issues. Could it be that I was lucky or does this have some merit?

[@avoblikov]

I saw one commercial about water disinfection device: It's like container with a handle, you put water inside, twist that handle for like five min. and the water is good to drink. :) Have you ever heard something like that?

[@californyaeh]

wow, just discovered your posts today, really learning loads with you !! You explain clearly and All make sense, someone wrote B.Grills should learn from you, Well, you should have your own TV show !!! Thank you for the great tips ...I Subscribe !!

[@theomen49]

So you don't use a simple filter (like the bandanna) to keep things out like bugs and other large particles?

[@campbellfamily1928]

Great video Dave. Definitely grabbing a stainless bottle! Thanks for the education!

[@Outlawme1990]

so whats the difference in the PF bottle with the ole cap and the new one you carry? If the new cap makes it 32 oz what does the old one hold?

[@thefreedomwarrior]

Love this channel

[@Atrax1207]

Great info! Very important to know. Thanks for sharing Dave!

[@kinghoju]

Great video Dave!

[@thepopcorn00]

hey dave, can you do another video about what you are carrying? just as a update...

[@yoongiwifeinthenextlife]

Hi Dave, can you please make another video on water filtration? There are plants that you could possibly add to water that have antimicrobial properties that are not necessarily bad for you, and may even me good for you.

[@danielaustin8591]

Dave, do you and your family filter your water for every day consumption for fluoride etc..? if so what filter system do you prefer?

[@Fr4g4lot]

Have you ever tried one of the Sawyer filters? I've been using one for a few months now and it seems to work pretty damn great for it's price!

[@henrypuyi5485]

Dave great vid as usual! Have you used the life saver water filter bottles? They are a little pricey but they say it can filter out viruses. Thanks again!

[@Azrealophion]

just curious but I was given a guyot bottle froma friend from amazon...it says its 32oz...should I be skeptical? its the tapered base version

[@dillpicklelilly]

I have used katadyn water filters for years when backwoods camping. I only took my water from lakes, never have got suck. I live that you have cold water to drink.

[@gmanpublications]

Hey David, I have a stupid question. If you don't have a way to boil water and you are using a plastic water bottle would a Brita water filter be just as good as say a life straw?

[@Cheehooo24]

Water in Hawaii has Leptospirosis and I'm wondering if boiling, the way you've mentioned, would kill it.

[@williammansfield9711]

If it had been raining for 12 hrs, shouldn't you be collecting the rain water as first option? Makes sense to me

[@sn1peron33]

Always good old friend,I ponder a question to all and you. What things besides the 10 C's would you require to bug out? Food of course. What? Say you where shooting for 500 labs total weight kit??? No fuel based stoves?

[@reginoarizmendi3222]

Hi Dave, I have a Sawyer water filter what do you think about those filters?

[@yoji58]

I wish this applied to my situation. There are so very few water sources in my stomping grounds. Creeks are continuously dry, and the most reliable standing water source is a pig wallow haha. I need to tromp around more, I know it's there somewhere.

[@TheInfiniteFrequency]

Thanks for these updates! Thank you.

[@joshuatreebrodove]

is there anything that you can find on the market... that can gauge chemicals in the water... or let you know at the water is contaminated buy chemicals?

[@TheRoadpilgrim]

Have you seen the Sawyer water purification SP194 one million gallon model? Is this a scam? This is the best one I have found over the years searching. What do you think Dave?

[@orycopperpot6536]

Dave, what do you think about carrying Potassium Permanganate.

[@nickchicha1259]

Dave I was in the Inf. during Viet Nan and we always used iodine tablets for our water are they not made anymore or what.Please respond. I just started and I dont know how this works yet.I have subsribed hope this works.

[@kodythompson113]

Dave, what do you think about this new "Life Saver Bottle"?

[@bushcraftchip]

Hey dave what do you think about potassium permagnate? Water disinfection,Fire starting?

[@NoogaNewb]

Thanks, Dave.

[@guggiuggi3687]

Dave, what about the Sawyer filters? I'm not sure, but I don't recall you ever mentioning them.. Of course there's the problem with them breaking if they freeze, but other than that I can't see any cons to them.. they're dirt cheap as well, so one could always carry a spare, dry one in subzero conditions.. I LOVE the Sawyer Mini... :)

[@jwrappuhn71]

Great vid dave.

[@bryanbeemer8405]

most instructions say 1 U.S. Quart OR 1 Liter so the couple of ounces must not mater. Also I don't think a couple of ounces less will do any harm either... try several different measuring devices and see how they compare to each other, mine vary a little from one to the other.

[@danpisula3531]

Great information, Thanks Dave.

[@fictitiousidentity6967]

Make sure that if you don't have a stainless bottle but a Nalgene bottle that you don't collect contaminated water in your bottle, pour it in a pot to boil it, then pour the disinfected water back into your contaminated bottle. Instead, collect the water in your camp pot that you intend to boil it in.With that said, a stainless bottle is brilliant. Will a water filter screw on to Pathfinder 32 oz. Bottle?

[@survival919]

hey dave where did you get that hat?

[@WingiedWarrior]

Do you have any videos on moutain living if so please let me know ^^

[@RenThraysk]

The EU banned the sale of iodine for use in water sterilization in Oct 2009. Still sold as an antiseptic though in pharmacy type places, but won't find it in outdoor gear type stores any more.

[@hagmark1]

Thanks Dave, good old common sense. Quite right too, don't rely on batteries, the question always is "What happens when they run out?". My primary consideration is always sustainability and what really works. Test it, use it, become familiar with it in all circumstances, so that when you really need to use it you already know the answer and that it will work.

[@TonyHookedonVanlife]

the only place I drank water untreated was waaaay up high in the mountains in Wyoming, but you still shouldn't risk it.

[@stormrider5951]

Thanks Dave.

[@BeyondCashed]

Beautiful place, Great Vid!

[@WheepingWillow2]

did you get his response on that type? thanks

[@CJayC253]

Were you saying "quarter liter" or "quart OR liter?"

[@seauke1]

the main reason I like the 34 oz bottle is that it is 1 liter and the decontamination tabs I use are measured for 1 liter. They work just fine for a quart bottle but the chemical taste isn't as strong with a full liter. I will ALWAYS boil when I can but when on the move....just my opinion. ps....coffee made with chemically treated tastes like hell...:)

[@rhgelber]

Have you ever tested the Berkey line of water filters? Please coment. You make more sense than any other on utube. I trust you.

[@eltenda]

great video ...again:) thanks for sharing...

[@draco2202]

Can a katadyn filter out chemicals ?

[@tenij000]

dave what do mean whit fill it to the top