What Is Dispensationalism? | Episode 147

What do theological terms such as "church age" and "dispensation of grace" mean, and where did they originate? How do they fit within the framework of Bible prophecy and Oneness Pentecostal theology? In this episode, Dr. David K. Bernard explains dispensational theology and its implications.
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[@MissMonotheist]

I love Dr. Bernard. He has been such a blessing to me as I make my way back to the Apostolic Church. Praise Jesus for His anointing of him.

[@dreamarichards4972]

Thank you very much Brother David Bernard for this great explanation on this topic. God has given you much wisdom. I felt the presence of the Holy Ghost. You have such an anointing. Thank you for helping us all to understand God’s Word. May God continue to bless you and your family! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@OnlyForTheSeeker]

Thnk you Dr. Bernard for this. Will you please have in you next podcast about 'Unwanted intrusive thoughts'. how to avoid these. Sometimes these can create distress to christians. One of the thoughts can be doubts if God exists or anything that pops in your mind. Thank you Dr.

[@nelsonstiveens5140]

Eso es llamado Transtorno Obsesivo Compulsivo, no muy conocido en la iglesia pero que afecta a la sociedad y a muchos creyentes genuinos en las iglesias, ojalá se pudiera dar más información sobre este, y la terapia de exposición con prevención de respuesta, y un ministerio en las iglesias que se enfoquen y ayudan a los miembros que sufren de esto

[@teodoradraper1447]

Excellent teaching and explanation, as always! Thank you, Dr.Bernard!

[@masihichannel]

God bless you. Amen - UPC Pakistan

[@MissMonotheist]

God bless you! I can imagine the struggles of being a Christian in a majority Muslim nation. We do not realize how blessed we are here in America as we can worship how and when we'd like!

[@davianrobinson]

God bless you in Pakistan! The Lord bless and keep you!

[@davidderitis9068]

No the church has NOT "replaced Israel": thank you for pointing that out !

[@maxwellhufford7115]

Simple explanation: “They are not all Israel that are of Israel; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed. The children of the flesh are not of the promise. “ Israel is God’s elect. Both of Jews and Gentiles. If you’re a Jew by birth and you’re not elect, you’re not truthfully of Israel. I believe this is why it says that “all Israel shall be saved.”

[@pastorenocramirez]

Would you please do an episode covering the millennial kingdom and the end of the sonship?

[@davidderitis9068]

Amen: faith without works is dead, and God still demands obedience to His word

[@murraylloyd6011]

For you are saved by grace through faith and that not of yourselves it is a gift of God not of works least any man should boast.

[@revamp6612]

@@murraylloyd6011what did you do? that Jesus died for you? None of us did anything but he still died for us. So none of us can boast. Thats the real context. We are still to obey Jesus. Roman’s 5: 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. John 14: 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

[@bbenjamint]

Amen, thank you sir

[@codydixon619]

Praise the Lord Brother Bernard. I do so very much enjoy listening to your podcast and reading your books Brother and have been so blessed by your teaching ministry and even by your last messages spoken at both last year's general conference and this years Because Of The Times, nevertheless there are two things I would like to ask you to please explain if you can and that is #1 (how to reconcile yours and many other saints eschatological beliefs in pre-tribulation and mid-tribulation resurrection/rapture theories in the face of the plainness of speech spoken by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ pertaining to the timeline of end time events such as the beginning of sorrows, the great tribulation, the sign of the Lord's return, and the resurrection of the dead in Christ and catching away of His saints as found written in the Olivette discourse in the synoptic gospels of both Matthew 24 & Mark 13? & #2 (If Jesus said that He would send forth His holy angels to gather His elect from the uttermost parts of the earth (rapture) and the uttermost parts of heaven (resurrection) after the great tribulation, then wouldn't any theory other than post-tribulation resurrection/rapture be in direct opposition to the very recorded words of our precious Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and therefore fall into false teaching? I mean obviously In order for one to be right would mean that the other two would have to be wrong by mathematical deduction.

[@pugnaciousnoobeginnings8997]

I'm amazed that someone is so brilliant and yet misses the simplicity of the rapture being after the tribulation. I love Bro. Bernard and his books and teachings. This pre-trib thing may not seem big, but so many people will fall victim to the mark saying "this can't be the mark, because that will only happen during the tribulation." Matthew 24:29-31 Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: AND THEN shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: AND THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. To believe the rapture happens before the tribulation, you have to believe in Jesus returning twice. So, a second, second coming if you will.

[@7ra44]

Many people will fall victim tot he Mark. The bible is clear on the Mark of the beast, but many people will accept it and worship it.

[@hargisP2]

You fail to read the Bible correctly. Rapture INTRODUCTION The Apostle Paul told the church, “Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed-in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51-52, NKJV).[i] This verse provides the strongest argument for an instantaneous future transformation of the believer from corruptible to imperishable bodies. The word commonly used to describe this mysterious event is “Rapture,” taken from the Latin verb rapio meaning “to catch up” or “take away.” The Latin was translated from the Greek word harpazō (ἁρπάζω), and Koine Greek rapiemur (ἁρπαγησόμεθα), meaning we shall be “caught up” or “taken away.”[ii] I have heard people say the word itself is not in the Bible; therefore, it is not an actual event. True, this precise word is not in scripture because the Bible was written in Greek, not Latin. But Paul tells us that a sudden rapiemur or harpazō, catching away of the believers, will take place at the time of the resurrection. And it will happen very suddenly without any prevenient warning or sign at the blowing of the last trumpet. So, the question is not whether the rapture is an actual event. It is real. We should be asking, “when is it likely to occur?” I say likely, because Yeshua declared, “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36). However, Paul gave us a bread crumb of information when he said, “the last trumpet.” So, a better question to ask is, “when is the last trumpet going to be blown according to scripture?” To answer this question, we will first study the New Testament, specifically the book of Revelation. And then, compare verses in Revelation to the Old Testament, primarily the book of Daniel. The rapture is not seen. Paul says the church has to be taken away before the anti christ can appear. 2 Thessalonians 2:5-8 KJVS Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Jesus says this to the Church Revelation 3:10 KJVS Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. TIMING OF THE RAPTURE It is written, “Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Revelation 11:15). This verse in Revelation could hint at the timing of the rapture, given there are no other trumpets mentioned after this chapter. This would place the rapture near, but not necessarily at the end of the tribulation. However, there is no mention of the resurrection or the rapture. Therefore, I believe the seventh angel is merely declaring that Christ has taken His rightful possession of the kingdoms of this world. This verse in Revelation is commonly linked to the Festival of Trumpets and the return of Christ. Affirming this understanding, the rabbis tell us that on the Festival of Trumpets, we are crowning God as King of all creation-the coronation of our Messiah. A few days later, on the Day of the Lord, Yashua returns to the Mount of Olives to destroy the nations that came against His people, Israel. At that time, He will also establish His eternal Kingdom. We read, “Behold, the day of the Lord is coming… For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem… And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east… Thus the Lord my God will come, And all the saints with You… And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be-The Lord is one, And His name one” (Zechariah 14:1-9). Post tribulation theologians surmise that the resurrection and rapture will occur immediately before the return of Christ, where the church will be instantly caught up to meet the Lord in the air and then nearly as quickly return with Him to Jerusalem. At first glance, this sounds plausible. But other aspects of this timing do not appear to align with scripture. We read, “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man” (Luke 21:36). “Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth” (Revelation 3:10). These verses imply that the true believers in Christ will escape some great hour of trial, a global calamity, likely the tribulation.

[@hargisP2]

A post rapture which is the second coming came fro John Darby. Everyone fails to read the account of the lady's dream, which spoke of a post Trib rapture. Tere are Christian writings mentioning a pre trib rapture as far back as 160 AD. I guess you don't believe that Enoch, and Elijah were not raptured. There are more biblical examples of pre trib rapture than any post. You fail to realize that the tribulation is about Israel, not the Church.Jeremiah calls the tribulation Jacob's trouble. Matt.24 was spoken to Israel, the Church did not exist.It is not a salvation issue, but if you want to go through God's wrath that would mean you haven't repented from your sins.

[@robertnieten7259]

Marin Luther adopted the dispensational error that there is one plan of salvatiin for jews( Acts 2:38) and another for the gentiles(Rom.10:9,10). This was partially due to the fact that he was antisemetic and beieved that Acts 2:38 was a works based plan of salvaton. As Dr, Bernard has stressed that saving faith must be demonstrated by obedience to Acts 2:38. Lastly, all of Pauls' books begin with the greeting,"..to the saints of.." So they were all written to already saved believers saved, no doubt,, according to Acts 2:38.

[@user-ep3bj8bb3u]

Rapture before or after i just want to be ready either way so stay prayed up and focused on the Lord Jesus 🙏

[@steve.coulon9846]

Amen, Jeremiah 31:31-34 KJV Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: [32] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord : [33] But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. [34] And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord : for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord : for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. 13:19

[@BYITW]

❤love you son

[@nelsonstiveens5140]

Brother Bernard. What is the finished work? What is the wesleyana theology of entire santificación? Why is it biblical or not? Why do Oneness Pentecostal oftfn embrace the finished work stance? Or how should we view this discusión and differences about santificacion?

[@JoevenBaredo]

Thank you Dr. David K. Bernard. I am upc oneness believer baptized In Jesus name. I just have this question :Matthew 3:16 Mark 1:10 Luke 3:21~22 John 1:32 All of them has record like John De baptist had but John de was one who saw the vision I am wondering why Matthew, Mark, Luke has the same writing. Is it possible the took copy from each other and if possible who first wrote it. I hope I can get insights from someone who is knowledgeable about this topic. God bless.

[@kevinwhelan8126]

Heady stuff - Christian teaching at its best.

[@2146USMC]

We serve a God of Covenants. Plain and simple.

[@anthonybardsley4985]

The apostle Paul taught dispensationalism in ephesians.. And it is called the mystery.. We are blessed in this dispensation with christ in the heavenly places rather than blessed with Abraham on the earth.

[@therealal1713]

PLEASE debate James White

[@DavidKBernardUPCI]

Dr. Bernard has already debated James White. Those debates are available at kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpmtdKeYiZZsr8Usi=CkDMnCiv1xNVG_Uo and kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIbJZ4mbhN6Dr9Esi=d4G6vW47KmbuMMgi. (Podcast Production Team)

[@pugnaciousnoobeginnings8997]

This was great! Highly recommended watching as many debates as you can find of Bro. Bernard. I may disagree with something he teaches, namely, pre-trib, but he is amazing at debate, and he is so incredibly clear in his teaching. For someone of his intellect to be able to speak on my level is something special. He uses vernacular the situation requires, but you can rest assured he is genuine in his effort to reach and teach people with his debates.

[@hargisP2]

@@pugnaciousnoobeginnings8997 Rapture INTRODUCTION The Apostle Paul told the church, “Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed-in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51-52, NKJV).[i] This verse provides the strongest argument for an instantaneous future transformation of the believer from corruptible to imperishable bodies. The word commonly used to describe this mysterious event is “Rapture,” taken from the Latin verb rapio meaning “to catch up” or “take away.” The Latin was translated from the Greek word harpazō (ἁρπάζω), and Koine Greek rapiemur (ἁρπαγησόμεθα), meaning we shall be “caught up” or “taken away.”[ii] I have heard people say the word itself is not in the Bible; therefore, it is not an actual event. True, this precise word is not in scripture because the Bible was written in Greek, not Latin. But Paul tells us that a sudden rapiemur or harpazō, catching away of the believers, will take place at the time of the resurrection. And it will happen very suddenly without any prevenient warning or sign at the blowing of the last trumpet. So, the question is not whether the rapture is an actual event. It is real. We should be asking, “when is it likely to occur?” I say likely, because Yeshua declared, “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36). However, Paul gave us a bread crumb of information when he said, “the last trumpet.” So, a better question to ask is, “when is the last trumpet going to be blown according to scripture?” To answer this question, we will first study the New Testament, specifically the book of Revelation. And then, compare verses in Revelation to the Old Testament, primarily the book of Daniel. The rapture is not seen. Paul says the church has to be taken away before the anti christ can appear. 2 Thessalonians 2:5-8 KJVS Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Jesus says this to the Church Revelation 3:10 KJVS Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. TIMING OF THE RAPTURE It is written, “Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Revelation 11:15). This verse in Revelation could hint at the timing of the rapture, given there are no other trumpets mentioned after this chapter. This would place the rapture near, but not necessarily at the end of the tribulation. However, there is no mention of the resurrection or the rapture. Therefore, I believe the seventh angel is merely declaring that Christ has taken His rightful possession of the kingdoms of this world. This verse in Revelation is commonly linked to the Festival of Trumpets and the return of Christ. Affirming this understanding, the rabbis tell us that on the Festival of Trumpets, we are crowning God as King of all creation-the coronation of our Messiah. A few days later, on the Day of the Lord, Yashua returns to the Mount of Olives to destroy the nations that came against His people, Israel. At that time, He will also establish His eternal Kingdom. We read, “Behold, the day of the Lord is coming… For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem… And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east… Thus the Lord my God will come, And all the saints with You… And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall be-The Lord is one, And His name one” (Zechariah 14:1-9). Post tribulation theologians surmise that the resurrection and rapture will occur immediately before the return of Christ, where the church will be instantly caught up to meet the Lord in the air and then nearly as quickly return with Him to Jerusalem. At first glance, this sounds plausible. But other aspects of this timing do not appear to align with scripture. We read, “Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man” (Luke 21:36). “Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth” (Revelation 3:10). These verses imply that the true believers in Christ will escape some great hour of trial, a global calamity, likely the tribulation.

[@rtoguidver3651]

Why do people try to put the Bible into their own understanding, rather than follow the leading of the Holy Spirit. Oh, because they don't have the Holy Spirit.!

[@hargisP2]

Yes, the trinitarians are famous for that. And you are right they don't have the Holy Spirit.

[@johnbowen1741]

Does Israel‘s faith in Jesus being the Messiah, require them to obey Acts 2:38 to be saved? If not, why do they have to obey acts 2;38 at this present time and not later after the church is gone ? Didn’t Peter clearly say Acts 2:39 .. …it’s too all that are far off even as many as the Lord our God shall call … Jesus said to Peter in Matt 16:19 … whatsoever ye bind on earth is bound … As long as there is an earth Acts 2:38 is the saving gospel, it’s the everlasting gospel bound to this earth . 1 Jn 5:8 … in earth spirit, water, and blood agree in one … There is only one plan of salvation as long as there is an earth . So You As a pre-tribulation rapture believer how do you save Israel once the church is gone ?

[@Abacab965]

God saves Israel , the church doesn't save Israel , and Acts 2:38 was salvation for the Jews, but that all changed when they crucified their Messiah ...

[@kennethrinicker3200]

@@Abacab965acts 2:38 was preached to Jews after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. They are now required just like everyone else to be born again of water and the Spirit.

[@sd5269]

Brother Bernard, the promise to future Israel is for future Israel. Hebrews 8 does not give the promise to the church today. Hebrews 10 verse 15 through 17 includes us in their future. Promise of Jeremiah 31. Most Christians have never seen this before. We are now, pre included in the future millennial promise to the fathers concerning national Israel in a partial, dark glass way, right now.

[@sergiospina9562]

I don't believe dispensationalism is biblical, because it divides Israel from the church

[@hargisP2]

In no way does it separate. But the church does not replace Israel. There are promises that are for Israel, and not for the Church. There is a covenant with Israel and God before the Church that is still in effect.