What Oneness Pentecostals Believe about Jesus Christ | Dr. David K. Bernard & Dr. David Norris

[@donaldperea7069]

Amen 🙏 love my Apostalic faith...I came out of 6 different trinitarian churches in the first 1 and half of my search for truth. That was 40 years ago. I've read that book, and it was a wonderful book that reveals scriptural and historical truths. It was great teaching tool to share with others the absolute truth of The Mighty God in Christ.

[@harikrishnanjoseph305]

Yes I love Apostolic Baptism of the the Oneness of God salvation to be saved&, confirm of doctrine

[@karensamons3478]

I came out of a Trinitarian background, So Thankful for REAL Truth. Col.1:19; 2:9. So Thankful for these sessions. God Bless Bro. Bernard and Bro.Norris.

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

There is only one doctrine that the Bible encourages us to embrace. It is definitely neither trinitarian nor oneness!! There's not a scripture in the Bible that supports a trinitarian doctrine or a oneness doctrine not one single scripture!! The Bible itself very clearly and very specifically tells us what doctrine to believe and to ABIDE in!! 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9 KJV Not one person in the Bible considered themselves to be trinitarian or oneness and if you've been calling yourself that repent!

[@LarzGustafsson]

Same here.

[@Biblecia]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all." - a trinitarian.

[@SamuelaNaqura]

​@biblicalmeditation2040 Then you have a problem You might not know or realize that whatever you just confessed is an implication that You don't believe in the existence of God. I believe in the One Indivisible God, The God with no distinct personality, who Do You Believe Jesus is? Do you Believe He is God The Father? or to you he is Son of God? That is why Oneness, it is a stand point, a confession of faith to believe in that One God the God of the Jews the Israelites, The God that the same Apostles believed in because they were Jews.Which is why Oneness, we are trying people to get out of Trinitarian thinking.

[@brexitannia9703]

I am reading your book The Oneness of God. I am a Catholic I live in the UK but its difficult to find one of your churches in my area but I do enjoy your discussions.

[@eliasluna9337]

This is a great book! It really helped me understand the Oneness view.

[@biblicalmeditation4094]

Better try to read the Bible instead. This man has no clue what he is talking about

[@samename6479]

​@biblicalmeditation4094... why are you here then?

[@IM.o.s.e.s.I]

​@@samename6479Because he is lost like everyone else and doesn't want to humble himself. I honestly love Trinitarians but it's nasty when they get like that.

[@terryglovier5803]

You have no foundation for your denial of biblical truth​@@biblicalmeditation4094

[@albertjohn2735]

Proud to be in Pentecostal Church.. Love your channel From mizoram, UPCI INDIA

[@Kajuniter]

As I watch the passion of both, it shines an image of excitement one feels when we meet God in salvation. It is then we realize how powerful and personal God wants to be with every human. Not one person born again will have to go to two other "persons" to complete his/her salvational relationship.

[@amaliaabad4292]

Amen, Glory for God to revealed in us the true one God which is Jesus Christ...😇😇

[@burningheartsministriesmis1488]

I can’t believe you don’t have a hundred thousand people subscribed to your channel.

[@paulmc2162]

I think the same about other Oneness Pentecostal channels.

[@KevinDay]

For a channel that just started regularly uploading videos 5 months ago, it's actually not doing too bad

[@davidderitis9068]

@@paulmc2162 my pride is in my Saviour JESUS and the fact that I know the truth, so you would do well to take these scriptures and practice them for yourself before you criticize ppl for subscribing to this channel.

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

Hopefully not because what he is teaching is not true and it denies the true Son of God by saying he's just the Father in a Son costume!

[@rickypineda523]

I do admire Bro. David Bernard for uplifting our LORD God Jesus Christ as the one true God of the Bible. The only one that he is lacking is remembering the Sabbath day since our LORD God Jesus Christ is LORD of the Sabbath and the Sabbath is the Seal of His Kingdom in Heaven.

[@johnsmithSongbird]

Thank you for pointing this out I am oneness and I keep the sabbath Most people fall short of this truth Jesus never worked on the sabbath neither did any of the apostles Sabbath rules were changed by modern day religion who don't know this Revelation 22 Unless we keep God's commandments We can't eat of the tree of life

[@rickypineda523]

@@johnsmithSongbird Amen. And it is my pleasure to share the truth in the Bible and we don't rely on the opinion of men. To our LORD God Jesus Christ the Creator of Heaven and Earth be the glory.

[@rickypineda523]

@@johnsmithSongbird Who is the LORD of the Sabbath? The Creation: Genesis 2:2-3 2 And on the seventh day God (elohiym) ended his work which he had made; and rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God (elohiym) blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God (elohiym) created and made. The Ten Commandments: Exodus 20:11 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD (yehovah) thy God (elohiym): in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD (yehovah) made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD (yehovah) blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Scheduled Festivals: Leviticus 23:3 3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD (yehovah) in all your dwellings. The Ten Commandments: Deuteronomy 5:14 14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD (yehovah) thy God (elohiym): in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath: Matthew 12:8 8 For the Son of man is Lord (kurios) even of the sabbath day. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath: Mark 2:28 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord (kurios) also of the sabbath. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath: Luke 6:5 5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord (kurios) also of the sabbath. If Jesus is Lord of the sabbath, who do we worship on the sabbath day? David's Psalm of Thanksgiving: 1 Chronicles 16:27-29 27 Glory and honour are in his presence; strength and gladness are in his place. 28 Give unto the LORD (yehovah), ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD (yehovah) glory and strength. 29 Give unto the LORD (yehovah) the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come before him: worship the LORD (yehovah) in the beauty of holiness. Give Glory to the LORD: Psalms 96:7-9 7 Give unto the LORD (yehovah), O ye kindreds of the people, give unto the LORD (yehovah) glory and strength. 8 Give unto the LORD (yehovah) the glory due unto his name: bring an offering, and come into his courts. 9 O worship the LORD (yehovah) in the beauty of holiness: fear before him, all the earth. The Visit of the Wise Men: Matthew 2:2, 11 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. 11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts, gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. The Vision of Babylon the Great: Revelation 17:14 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called and chosen, and faithful. The Vision of the Coming of the Messiah: Revelation 19:16 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Lift up Jesus, you that teach the people, lift Him up in sermon, in song, in prayer. Let all your powers be directed in pointing souls, confused, bewildered, lost, to the Lamb of God. (Gospel Workers, p. 160) Answer: The one that we worship on the sabbath day is our LORD God Jesus Christ the creator of heaven and earth, the God of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last, the Prince of Peace, the Almighty God and our Everlasting Father who created us in His own image.

[@gp5351]

What a blessings.

[@merarismagante]

God bless you both Man of God 🙏🙏🙏

[@davidderitis9068]

"I and my Father are ONE" John 10:30

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: John 17:22 KJV ME AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ONE BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AM YOU

[@gregs4950]

Wonderful content! Love the explanations and the passion :)

[@mgonz5914]

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

[@kiwihans100]

Strange how many theologians with ;degrees in theology' and 'professors' e.t.c are often quoted as an authority on what the bible really teaches! Paul said "For it is written"I will destroy the wisdom of the wisw and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent, But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the things wehich are mighty" ( 1 Cor 1:19,27) John Wycliffe one of Christendom's greatest scholars said " I wish that the plow boy could understand God's word, more than the cleric"! Amen!

[@frankiebrown3265]

Amen.

[@davidderitis9068]

"He that hath seen me HATH SEEN THE FATHER..." John 14:9

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:15 KJV JESUS CHRIST IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD BUT COME ON NOW, FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE? I HOPE YOU KNOW THE FATHER WAS NEVER BORN!

[@trentenbilson2317]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 You just contradicted yourself. You just said Jesus is the image of the invisible God. My question to you is there is three Gods or person in the Godhead, which one is for salvation? The Father, the Son, or the Holy Ghost.

[@davidderitis9068]

Amen!

[@bretmavrick-ph2ip]

Please stress the oneness MYSTERY of GOD.

[@alinnedub]

Lord bless you 🙌🏿

[@samsalazar7446]

These bro are deep

[@bretmavrick-ph2ip]

Oneness Great Mystery, 1,Tim,3:16,,,Must stress Apostle Paul's Great Mystery Oneness, therefore to Not allow Trinitarians to misinterpret what we mean,,,,We Know Jesus prayed, he hungered, he got tired, he thirst, he had arm pit odor, he felt all pain, he died,,,,Was that human enough for you,??,,, But also he was GOD in flesh Great Mystery, Not no secondary little god Jr,🙏🙏

[@rickypineda523]

The Spirit of God does not die, only the flesh that die. Our LORD God Jesus Christ the Creator of Heaven and Earth, the God Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the Almighty God, the Prince of Peace, the Everlasting Father, the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End, the only one true God of the Bible.

[@BriannaCollins-le4cj]

”No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.“ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬-‭15‬

[@Human-Earth]

I’m glad to find the oneness faith of Christianity, but it is still difficult to understand it for someone came from monotheism background belief . When Jesus was crucified and died, in that time, who really died? If the died is the human Jesus, and he’s one in God as the same time! Then Isn’t complicated to understand how that two different nature existing in Jesus, the man and God at the same time, then when rises from death, who rose? God never die, isn’t it?

[@drr8097]

I really want your books the Oneness of God. How to order? From Philippines.

[@DavidKBernardUPCI]

You can purchase a copy from the Pentecostal Publishing House at pentecostalpublishing.com/products/the-oneness-of-god-volume-1-pentecostal-theology-series. (Podcast Production Team)

[@BriannaCollins-le4cj]

”For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.“ ‭‭1 John‬ ‭5‬:‭7‬ ‭

[@herringtonherding]

Comma Johanneum

[@pamelalc63]

I am a Christian and have never accepted the doctrine of the Trinity. I have always seen it as an abomination and offense. To this day I am still astounded that all the Christians I know will never deny the idea of the Trinity. They become afraid and will not listen to scripture. They also will not, will not give up "Christ mass" (Christmas), they will not give up Easter and still participate in halloween with their children. No wonder scripture tells us that we must be lovers of truth. Other we can be drawn into deception.

[@samueljennings4809]

I hope you guys don’t mind me asking. Have Oneness views helped at all when discussing the gospel with Jews and Muslims, from your experience? I’m sure that Jesus being God is still a stumbling block, but I’m curious if the removal of the Trinity helps them to consider it in a way that they wouldn’t have otherwise. Blessings!

[@herringtonherding]

Yes UPCI have an outreach in Israel, many are being added to the church. I can assure you they get the concept of God being one rather than 3 in one, which would go against everything they have been taught, and would not align with the Torah. Since the Torah and Oneness are in total sync; really when the gospel is preached everything clicks.

[@chabirajpersaud9647]

What bible do you used ?

[@maryhelencampos9964]

Dr.Norris voice vocals sounds like John Ankerberg/have the same voice tones...

[@rogerclyde2720]

I would be one of the most pitiful cases in Hell if I was sent there! I don’t care who doesn’t believe it ! I was allowed to meet Peter and I saw Jesus on a Great White Throne, I was there. Jesus is alive and on the Throne.

[@apolinarpina8529]

Scripture will never militate against scripture.

[@joelmccarthy7501]

what does it mean in genesis when God says "let us make man in our image", and through out the New Testament ... references to Christ being seated at the right hand of God. Thankyou

[@DavidKBernardUPCI]

Dr. Bernard addressed these questions in Episode 1 | Does Genesis 1:26 Refer to the Trinity? (kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWXQdoB7a9hpiKcsi=KslTo7pGpY8ve-m5) and Episode 65 | Is Jesus Standing at God's Right Hand? (kzbin.info/www/bejne/boPPZ4qaq8djrLcsi=hWou_RNFJ1ysTGQz). - Podcast Production Team

[@dennisrosalita2698]

In John 17:5 what is that glory jesus talking about?

[@allenterry9412]

But the main thing is pointing people to jesus how did jesus pray to his father in the gardnen he wasnt praying to himself and when he was on the cross he cried my God why has thou forsaken me

[@musikomago8120]

His Human nature cried out to His Spiritual nature. Because Jesus was a Human too, He could call God just as we call God. If we could pray, Jesus could pray too as a human.

[@maryhelencampos9964]

The way I see it The Father is on His Throne(He never leaves His Throne) when The Son cried out(who came to show us The Father) .Yeshua (Jesus) is the embodiment of The Father/If you see me you see The Father for we are one...The Holy Ghost will teach you all things/lead & guide you into all truth /will speak only what The Father tells Him to say...Just dialoguing

[@jparkst2023]

It’s important to realize that when Jesus said “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me,” God had not really left (forsaken) Jesus. This is actually a quote from Psalm 22:1 where David cries out to the Lord in the same way that Jesus did. Just like David wasn’t forsaken by God (since God will never leave us nor forsake us: Deuteronomy 31:6), Jesus was not forsaken by God. But, when Jesus was on the cross, the Bible says that he became sin (2 Corinthians 5:21). Sin separates us from God (Isaiah 59:2), and so when Jesus became sin, it’s felt like God had abandoned him, when in reality, he was just experiencing the ultimate feeling of separation that comes from sin.

[@loverboy8045]

Hmmmm in my own views no one know the work of God God is miracles and can do and undo he does his own things in his own way.. jesus said in my name you would be casting out devils and demons ,in my name you would be doing miracles, why doesn't he say in the name of mu father or in the name of God you would be casing out devils and demons and why don't he said in the name of my father and God you would be doing miracles? Then who is jesus if his name would be doing these things but not the name of the father ,or the almighty God? Then can we said jesus is God? Because I think no man name can do miracles only God name.. the work of God is greatest that we can't know how he works

[@helenvalle2920]

​@@jparkst2023 it is so true in your explanation

[@nicsmada]

OK... I NEED SOME HELP ON THIS ONE... ( EVEN THOUGH I KNOW JESUS WILL IN DUE TIME ) BUT I TOO BELIEVE GOD IS ONE, SO... HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN ZECHARIAH 2:11?

[@Post-Trib]

The prophetic mind of God or Logos. Call speaks of things that don't exist as though they do

[@nicsmada]

@@Post-Trib WHAT!?

[@Post-Trib]

@@nicsmada Rom 4:17, John 1, Jeremiah when God spoke to him and ordained him before he was formed in the womb. The prophetic mind of God or Logos. The word Logos means thought, plan

[@shawnembrey1118]

Who was Resurrected the divine nature or the human nature? Or just a body and no longer humanity exalted. Is Jesus the Son of God alive and well today or not. Yes or No will suffice.

[@gimel77]

Most everything these brothers are saying is true. The one belief they have that I disagree with is that Jesus is the name of the Father. The name of the Father is still YHWH, not Jesus. They say that the name Jesus includes the name YHWH. That is extremely misleading. The name Jonathan includes the name YHWH too. The name Matthew does too. Any type of theophoric name that refers back to YHWH as being something, includes a contracted form of that name. That doesn't mean any of these names are God's name, they are human names that refer back to God as being that thing. The name Jesus is a normal human name that several people in Scripture had, in both the Old and New Testaments, and is really a shortened form of the name Joshua. Now, the name above every name. This is something that God gave to Jesus. That is, a reputation and authority above all others. What this means then, is that Jesus didn't have the "name above every name" when he was on this earth, but it was given to him when he ascended. And the name above every name isn't exactly a nominal designation, it's a position of authority. Jesus was given an authority above all others. However, it is clear that, since God gave this to him, as 1 Corinthians 15:27 says, God himself is excepted from this. Therefore, God's personal name of YHWH is the highest name, and it can even be said that this is the "name" or position of exaltation he gave to Jesus. There is a clear Biblical reason why we come to God in Jesus name, and why we baptize in Jesus name, and it's not because Jesus is the name of God. It's because Jesus is the way to God. No one comes to the Father, except through Jesus, for he is the way. And we identify with his death, burial, and resurrection in baptism. This is why we do all in the name of Jesus Christ. Apostolics hold the view that Jesus is the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and I don't view that as being Scriptural. And the Holy Ghost is really the very essence and being of the Father's divine person.

[@anthonybardsley4985]

I like your oneness view. But gifts of the spirit in the acts period are not for today. We are in a dufferent dispensation of the grace of God if you haven't noticed.

[@AT40Guy]

😎cool

[@jamescampfield8363]

You forgot to say that Peter said Lord show us how we are to pray? Jesus prayers are an example of how we are to pray to him in future tense..... Also shows that he came to fulfill all righteousness. I seen a video of brother Bernard saying that 33-year-old man dying on the cross was God and his video the identity of Jesus Christ that is a statement which is not true. God was never born and God was never 30. It's very important to understand the inner Man from the outer man the flesh from the spirit. Why make things difficult Jesus Christ came in the flesh God himself was manifested in that flesh 1st Timothy 3:16. I'm so glad for preachers such as Gino Jennings who explained the Oneness of God in a better way that I can understand. He doesn't make it difficult like brother Bernard does!

[@michaelwaters6829]

@17:48 John 17:5 is also referring to God's first sacrifice in creation when he sacrificed his onliness to create other eternal free will beings. ( Angel's and Humans which can also be called Sons of God, who were created in the shadow of God). It was a sacrifice because it went against his holy nature in favor of his perfect will and brought evil into existence, ref. Isaiah 45:7 Jesus is the pinnacle of that sacrifical plan to ensure his Freewill beings have a way to inhabit his willful grace (i.e Heaven) and not his rightious nature (i.e Hell). The cross is not the first time he has sacrificed for his people. In fact he has never required of us anything he first has not displayed himself.

[@maryhelencampos9964]

Some Messianic Jewish brethren believers describes the Godhead as a Compound Unity.Regardless If Trinity or Oneness I don’t think that will keep one out of Heaven.Repent and Believe ON The LORD Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved/ prime candidate for infilling indwelling Of The Holy Spirit...Trinitarians believe in The ONE GOD also.... Not two not three just One LORD one Baptism one Faith no other name above all names One Way Jesus....

[@glory1ministries734]

You may read my testimony above about this subject.

[@imitatejesus]

John 8:24 That is why I said that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I Am who I claim to be, you will die in your sins.” Jesus said before Abraham, I AM. Jesus was claiming to be the "I AM"

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

@@imitatejesus Jesus was claiming to be the Son of God not the Father. Your doctrine eliminates the true Son and says the Father became his own Son!

[@haroldbrooks1948]

Sister Mary Helen Campos you are spot on as pointed out Trinitarians and Oneness believes 99% the same things about Jesus. The essence of the gospel according to Mark 1:5 we are to repent and believe the gospel. Then we are to obey the gospel of Jesus Christ, for he that believes and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16. For the promise is not only to us, but our children and their children and as many as the Lord will call. Acts2:39 that is the requirement to salvation the New Birth message. St. John 3:3-6

[@haroldbrooks1948]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 the context of John 8:58 is not referring to Christ being the son. For Jesus claimed the title I am, the Jews of His day understood it for they took up stones to stone Him.

[@allenterry9412]

But explain how jesus prayed to his father . There is but one God and father of all and jesus his son and the Holyghost that lives within us but im not here to argue i love you brothers we are all going to thd same place as long as jesus is our saviour

[@jparkst2023]

Jesus prayed to the Father because he was an authentic human being (which he had to be so that he could be the substitutionary sacrifice for us). As an authentic human, Jesus was like us in all ways (except he never sinned), so he prayed to the Father just like we pray to the Father, the only difference being that the Father was actually incarnate in him. This does not cause a distinction in persons, instead, it merely highlights the authentic human that Jesus was, being both fully God and fully man at the same time (1 Timothy 3:16).

[@thomasbrisbane7122]

@@jparkst2023 Manifest in flesh does not equate to fully God and fully Man that is just oneness tradition speaking. The historical evidence indicates that the word “God” was not there before the fourth century. Even Trinitarians are moving away from the word God. The early manuscripts say “He” which would be Jesus.

[@jparkst2023]

@@thomasbrisbane7122 The Greek word used in this passage is θεός (theos), which is used all over the New Testament to mean God. Examples: Matthew 6:33, “But seek ye first the kingdom of God (θεός) and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” Matthew 15:31, “Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God (θεός) of Israel.” John 3:3, “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God (θεός).”

[@thomasbrisbane7122]

@@jparkst2023 I don't deny that....Did you read what I wrote? The evidence points that the word God was put there after the 4th century. All the bibles written before the kJV had the word "He" there.....

[@maryhelencampos9964]

As a born-again believer in Christ Jesus as LORD one needs a personal relationship with The Father(Yahweh )as well with The Son (Yeshua)led by The Holy Spirit/It’s all about the finished work of The Cross Of Calvary were Jesus paid The Price in full shedding His Holy Blood ......Just dialoguing

[@Post-Trib]

God the Father became his own Son. God took upon himself the likeness of sinful flesh, not the exactness. The soul of God, his very good character & attributes, were personified in a literal human body. When Satan tempted Christ, it was a contest of wills. The evil will of Satan versus the good will of God. God imposed limitations upon his humanity which I call self imposed limitations.

[@Wheelcooldiecast-u8n]

Became a man? Where did the Apostles teach that in the Book of Acts? God was in Christ but that does not make Christ God

[@Post-Trib]

@TheJesusRevival Titus Ch2 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ 1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh

[@Wheelcooldiecast-u8n]

⁠​⁠@@Post-Trib Classic KJV.Yes the KJV says these verses.My question was where in Acts?

[@Post-Trib]

@@Wheelcooldiecast-u8n 1 Tim 3:16 God was manifest in the flesh

[@Wheelcooldiecast-u8n]

@@Post-Trib manifest does not mean becoming a man Like a Transformer “ deity in disguise “

[@donaldkagel1952]

Isa. 26 : 4 says Trust ye in the LORD forever : for in the LORD JEHOVAH is everlasting strength . Rev 5 : 6-7 says that the Lamb comes and takes the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne . John 6 : 37 says All that the Father giveth me ( shall ) come to me ... and 1 john 5 : 7 there are three that bear record in heaven the Father , the Word and the Holy Ghost and these ( three ) are ONE .

[@dreameruy9510]

The scripture is very very clear Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ hast not have God he that abide in the doctrine of Christ hast both the Father and the Son (2jn1:9) Jesus said no one knows the Son except the Father and no one knows the Father except the Son Again.. Jesus said O righteous Father the world have not known you but I know you and this have known that you sent me (Jn17: 25) Very Very Clear Verse JESUS SAID THE WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN GOD ALMIGHTY QUESTION Where did Jesus teach Jehovah is the name of the Father...? Can you provide even only one verse...?

[@davidscheller6725]

The following proves David K. Bernard is correct about the Oneness of God. The following Scriptures proves who Jesus really is and that He is much more than just the Son of God. Deuteronomy 6:4, “Hear O Israel: the Lord our God is ONE Lord.” Then several thousand years later Jesus said in John 10:30, “I and my Father are ONE.” Exodus 3:13-14 states that before Moses came down from the mountain with the Ten Commandments he asked God who shall he say sent him. God said I AM THAT I AM, tell them I AM SENT YOU. Then several thousand years later Jesus said in John 8:58 "Verily, verily I say unto you, before Abraham was, "I AM." God did not reveal what His name was until Matthew 1:23-25, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted, GOD WITH US." 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her first born son and called his name JESUS." Jesus said in John 17:21, “That they all may be one, as thou art in ME, and I in YOU, that they also may be one in us, that the world may believe that you have sent me.” Matthew 26:15 states that Judas Iscariot (the disciple that betrayed Jesus), “What will you give me if I will deliver him to you? And they (the Chief Priests) weighed out 30 pieces of silver.” Note back in Zechariah 11:12 in the Old Testament it says, “And I said unto them, If you think good, give ME my price and if not forbear. So they weighed for my price 30 pieces of silver.” Note that is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob talking about HIMSELF after He became a MAN and before He was crucified. It says in John 19:34, “But one of the Soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came out blood and water. “Note back in Zechariah 12:10 it says, “....and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him...” Also in Zechariah 13:6 it says, “And one shall say to him (Jesus), What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those are which I was wounded in the house of my friends.” Psalms 22:16, “For dogs have compassed me, the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me, they pierced my hands and my feet.” Also in the Old Testament - Isaiah 53:5, “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our piece was upon him, and with his stripes we are healed.” Note that is the FATHER of the Old Testament referring to HIMSELF as He was hanging on the cross. Mark 15:24, “And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots for them, what every man should take.” Note back in Psalms 22:18 in the Old Testament it says, “They part my garments among them and cast lots upon my vesture.” Note that is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob referring to HIMSELF as He was hanging on the cross. John 19:29, “Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar, and they filled a sponge with vinegar and put it on a hyssop, and put it to his mouth.” Note back in Psalms 69:21 it says, “They gave ME also gall for my meat and in my thirst they gave ME vinegar to drink.” Jesus said in John 5:39, “Search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life, and they are they which testify of ME.” Jesus is referring to the scriptures in the Old Testament which are referring to HIMSELF before he took on flesh and became a man. (John 1:1, 10 and 14) Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by any man but was taught directly by Jesus himself, which means that whatever Paul did or said was exactly what Jesus told him to say. Paul said in Hebrews 1:8, “But unto the SON he saith, Thy throne O GOD is forever and ever.” Jesus said in John 12:44-45, “He that believes on me believes not on me, BUT ON HIM THAT SENT ME. 45 And he that sees ME sees HIM that sent ME.” John 14:8-10, “Philip said to Jesus, Lord, show us the Father and it will satisfy us. 9 Jesus said unto him, Have I been so long a time with you and yet you have not known me Philip? He that has seen me HAS SEEN THE FATHER, and how do you say now, show us the Father?” 10 Believe thou not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but the Father that DWELLS IN ME - HE DOES THE WORKS.” Jesus said in John 14:28, “....for my Father is greater than I.” In other words, that paragraph is saying that the flesh and blood man Jesus did not heal the sick or raise the dead - the FATHER which dwelt INSIDE Him did those works, which He and the Father are ONE, which explains why Jesus said the Father is greater than he is. Paul said in 2 Corinthians 5:19, “To wit that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto HIMSELF." Paul said in Colossians 2:8-10, “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in HIM dwells all the fullness of the GODHEAD bodily. 10 And you are complete in HIM (Jesus), which is the head of all principality and power.” The Godhead is IN Jesus - JESUS IS THE GODHEAD. Jesus said in Matthew 23:37, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that killed the prophets and stoned them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together even as a hen gathered chickens under her wings, and you would not listen!” That is a very interesting scripture because Jesus is speaking as the flesh and blood man he was at that time but ALSO speaking as the FATHER (they are ONE) and referring to a time long before Jesus was born. All the scriptures above prove the ONENESS of God and that there is no such thing as the Trinity. We get the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the Name Jesus, which is why every time water Baptism was done in the Name Jesus, or in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, meaning Jesus name was invoked at baptism, which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7-8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. At no time did Jesus disciples use any combination of the words Father, Son, and Holy Ghost when they baptized anyone in water, or use a combination of those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Jesus said in Matthew 24:4,"Take heed that no man deceives you." Jesus also said Jesus in John 10:27,"My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."

[@unitedsoulsnetwork2619]

Most impactful comment ever!

[@RichardStuart-Menteath]

Praise the Lord brother , awesome!

[@melissabarnard5645]

Why is the Oneness not a salvation issue?

[@charlesbanks457]

It actually is a salvation issue. Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins In the KJV, the word "he" is in italics which indicates that it is not found in the Greek texts. What Jesus actually said was "for if he believe not that I AM ..." I AM is how God revealed himself to Moses from the burning Bush. Why doesn't Jesus just say "Yes, I am God revealed in flesh"? Two main reasons, 1- He would never allow flesh to glory in his presence; 1Co 1:29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 2- He wants us to receive the revelation by faith

[@helenvalle2920]

​@@charlesbanks457 absolute the thruth

[@kc17821]

Dueteronomy 6:4

[@stclairjones815]

Bible project New testament overview straighten all that up

[@bretmaverick4993]

💟💟💟💟

[@pattysherwood7091]

The oneness doctrine does preserve the concept of the trinity of three persons or three manifestations being one. The oneness doctrine of the UPC is still trinity, and is believed by the orthodox churches. They believe there are three manifestations of God, and are one. So you should not say that you do not believe in the trinity.

[@Post-Trib]

The doctrine of one God and the trinity are not the same. Who coined the word trinitas or trinity and who formulated the doctrine of the trinity?

[@pattysherwood7091]

@@Post-Trib I think you are right! But I dont understand it. I believe Jesus is the son of God and people tell me I am wrong.

[@Post-Trib]

@pattysherwood7091 his humanity is called the Son of God and Son of man. However, it was the one and only true God housed within a mortal body that manifested his character and attributes for us on a human level. God the Father became his own Son. Jesus is the manifestation and personification of God the Father in human form

[@pattysherwood7091]

@@Post-Trib Oh! I believe Jesus is the completely human son of God who is filled with all the fulness of God , and he is in unity with or one with God, because he is sinless and able to be in perfect atonement with God. God is in the man Christ Jesus. And his gift to us is that we can be one with God by also being filled with the Holy Ghost, the Spirit, the presence, the fulness of God. Is that something like oneness? Because I believe King Jesus is still a man living eternally in heaven, and one day we will be like him.

[@Post-Trib]

@@pattysherwood7091 close. You should be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins then

[@dreameruy9510]

The scripture is very very clear Whosoever transgressed and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God, he that abide in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son (2jn1:9) Jesus said no one knows the Son except the Father and no one knows the Father except the Son Again... Jesus said O Righteous Father the world have not known you but I know you and this have known that you sent me ( jn17:25) Very very clear verse JESUS SAID THE WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN GOD ALMIGHTY (26) and I have declared to them your name and will declared it that the love with which you love me maybe in them and I in them JESUS DECLARED TO HIS DISCIPLES THE NAME OF THE FATHER John said this is the message which we have heard from him and Declared to you that GOD IS LIGHT (1Jn1:5) GOD IS LIGHT JESUS IS LIGHT John said Jesus is the TRUE GOD and eternal life (1Jn5::20)

[@paulnavarro3822]

At 38:10 where is it said that "he is spoken of as BOTH God AND the Lamb" in Revelation? This is what it says: Rev 5:6 Then I saw One like a slaughtered lamb standing between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent into all the earth. Rev 5:7 He came and took the scroll out of the right hand of the One seated on the throne. Clearly, the Lamb is BETWEEN the Throne of God and AMONG the Elders. The Lamb, the Resurrected Immortal Man Jesus, IDENTIFIES with the Elders. The Lamb takes the scroll out of the right hand of God who is sitting on His Throne. There is only ONE God in Heaven, and the Lamb is not that God. Obviously, the Lamb is the "Lamb OF God" whom we all know to be the Resurrected Man, the Lord Jesus Christ. Paul tells us that Jesus is SITTING at the right hand OF God. The "right hand of God" is not the Throne of God where Yahweh God ALONE sits. Why do y'all insist that the Father AND the Son ARE/IS the same Person, when Scripture clearly makes them TWO distinct Persons. One is Divine, i.e., God, and the other is a Human Being in all respects. Why do y'all need a "theologian" to EXPLAIN who Yahweh God IS and who Jesus IS. They are not the same Person in supposedly different MODES. Just because "theologians" say: "God AS the Father" and "God AS the Son", doesn't make it so. Those TERMS, like "oneness", "trinity", "incarnation", are nowhere to be found in Scripture. Yahweh God and Jesus Christ are always spoken of as TWO different Beings, one Human and one Divine. By what rule of Bible Hermeneutics can we determine that it is possible for Yahweh God, an infinitely powerful Being, to somehow divest Himself of all of His infinite power and metamorph Himself into a powerless human being? Where is that process found in Scripture? We cannot just ASSUME that He can do such a thing without having some evidence. Yet that is exactly what "incarnations", such as yourselves, and "trinitarians", actually ASSUME He is capable of doing. If He can divest Himself of infinite majesty and power, how can He get it back, while being a weak Man? You see, y'all just bring out MORE questions than answers. Scripture is not confusing if we just let it say what it says and not INTRODUCE our own THOUGHTS into the interpretation of verses. Bro Bernard introduced his personal idea that the Lamb OF God and God Himself BOTH sit as ONE Person on ONE Throne. Wait, wait, what?? The Book says no such thing, he just projects his own personal thoughts INTO the text, i.e., IESEGESES. Read the Scripture for yourselves, the so called "oneness" concept just ain't there! They are spoken of and described as TWO separate Beings! Any fifth grader, who has NOT been indoctrinated into "incarnation-ism", should be able to read the New Testament for themselves and come out with the knowledge of TWO main Characters, the Father and the Son. The Father is clearly defined to be the eternal God, Yahweh Elohim in the O.T., and the Son is clearly defined as a finite human, the Lord Jesus Christ. How in the world can anyone, who has not been indoctrinated into "incarnation-ism", after reading the Bible on his own, come away with the conclusion that Yahweh God is ONE Being who supposedly is "God, AS the Father" and "God, AS the Son", is beyond my pay grade. Either I have to lower my I.Q. by 50 points to an 80 or raise my I.Q. to 180, 'cause apparently, I'm either not dumb enough or not smart enough to understand the "incarnation-ism" concept. At 130, I can and do understand that Yahweh God is ONE and ONLY ONE divine and eternal Being and that He has a uniquely begotten Human Son which came into existence, as all Men do, around the year 5 B.C. E., by being CONCEIVED in the womb of a Human Woman. The Scriptures which give us the Historical account of HOW and WHEN Jesus came into being, viz., Matthew and Luke, both tell us NOTHING about a so called "incarnation of a God" event. They both tell us about the CONCEPTION and BIRTH of a Human Being, Biology 101. We are explicitly told that Yahweh God Himself, through His own creative and life-giving power, i.e., His own Spirit, PROVIDED Mary, a virgin maid who was of child bearing age and apparently fertile, with the Human Male "seed" needed for procreation of a child. Yahweh God from the beginning established His Laws of Natural Human Procreation Process, i.e., a human male "seed" combines with a human female "ovum" to CONCEIVE a NEW Being, to bring a new life into the world. That is exactly WHAT happened, there was a CONCEPTION, Biology 101, not a so-called "incarnation". Was God, the Creator of all living things, able to CREATE one single microscopic human male "seed" directly inside Mary's virgin womb? Jesus, who had life giving power, GIVEN to him by God, healed people from all sorts of physical maladies. Did he give them artificial or bionic eyes, tongues, ears, hands, feet, etc.? No, he gave them 100% New Natural flesh; he CREATED new flesh and bone, viz., lots of living human cells. Yahweh God needed to create only one singular microscopic human male "seed" inside Mary's womb in order for Mary to NATURALLY CONCEIVE the child Jesus. Around the year 5 B.C. E., Yahweh God became the Father and Jesus became the Son and Mary was the actual Mother of Jesus. Prior to Jesus' CONCEPTION, not "incarnation", in his mother's womb, Jesus had no existence, for Men do not exist until they are CONCEIVED, FORMED, and given BIRTH. It would be oxymoronic to say that an eternal God BEGOT Himself or that He CONCEIVED Himself in a womb, yeah, it would be totally ABSURD! Yet that is exactly what "incarnationists", of whatever shades of grey they may throw at you, want us to believe. Not buying!

[@kolbibowesable]

“God didn’t just put on flesh like a raincoat he was fully human and God.” Then proceeds to talk about how only the man is praying as a man in right relationship with God, only a human, not God, can be the mediator, and thus deduce that the man can claim glory alongside God. Over and over in Scripture we are seen as needing to be reconciled to “the Father.” Not the son. Jesus is the only way to the Father yet Jesus is truly God and truly man, meaning God the Father is distinct from Jesus the God/man (God the Son) if we can only get to God the Father through Jesus the God-man then we have two distinctions of persons within the Godhead here. You have hypocritically created a God that simply wraps himself in flesh, whereas the flesh and the deity in Christ can be separated. How convenient to be able to do all of these gymnastics to conflate Jesus as strictly human where you want to and strictly God where you need to to fit your MOVEMENT’s presuppositions. Also “we read from the OT to the NT so nothing changes or contradicts in the testaments,” yet God says his name is Yahweh and you say his name is Jesus based on NT revelation.

[@RichardStuart-Menteath]

Only the author can alter a testament. Jesus is the author of both old and new testaments before the foundation of the world.

[@jamescampfield8363]

You basically believe in the God man.... Same as trinitarians they also use these terms.

[@shawnembrey1118]

I and my father are one in a Kingdom mindset means to be of the same power and authority purpose and mission not that they are the same person. We are to have the mind of christ and I'll continue to follow the Lord and King Jesus to the Glory of His and our God and Father. If you Do not believe the Son of God the man christ Jesus is alive and well today you do not know Truth and are not on the narrow way. God doesn't pretend to pretend is deception and God does not decieve. You misunderstand exodus 314 as you continue God tells Moses His name is Yahawa and it will not change. Jesus in John 8 58 wasn't saying He is God but he is the Messiah that God sat apart from Himself and sent into the world. Mystery is the only way your error ever works. You deny the Son repent or be part of those who claim Jesus as Lord and yet are turned away even though they prophesied in His Name cast out demons and did miracles in His name Jesus the Son of God will tell you I never knew you repent and stop teaching the false doctrines from the minds and coucils of men.

[@dixiegrljess83]

Yes! I have often mentioned this area of the bible: Genesis 2:24: “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” A husband and wife in Gods eyes through the marital covenant are “one” but not literally. Great is the mystery of Godliness and if you seek him you will find him. His word is alive. I can agree with holiness and standards for Christians. I can agree with anything that lines up with the Holy Bible but the oneness doctrine makes no sense to me according to the word in the KJV Holy Bible I read. I have watched many debates and have never understood oneness.

[@mr.johnson5148]

Amen! Oneness is false doctrine, and very confusing.

[@jamescampfield8363]

I disagree with a lot of this I am also a believer in the Oneness of God a student of Gino Jennings what was in that flesh was God and yes God was manifested in the flesh the flesh was not God and God was not a man God was never 30 God never ate God never slept God is omnipresent. God is a spirit and the Lord Jesus is that spirit that body was merely a suit. It's so simple to understand it's not rocket science God made flesh then got in the flesh that he made and manifested himself in that flesh.

[@lordssideministries4062]

I challenge you to read this statement to Gino Jennings. He will disagree if he acknowledges the Lord of the NT. No offense intended

[@vincentoostendorp4786]

Modalistic Oneness Monarchianism Mouthful of JESUS no CHRIST in understanding

[@loverboy8045]

Hmmmm in my own views no one know the work of God God is miracles and can do and undo he does his own things in his own way.. jesus said in my name you would be casting out devils and demons ,in my name you would be doing miracles, why doesn't he say in the name of mu father or in the name of God you would be casing out devils and demons and why don't he said in the name of my father and God you would be doing miracles? Then who is jesus if his name would be doing these things but not the name of the father ,or the almighty God? Then can we said jesus is God? Because I think no man name can do miracles only God name.. the work of God is greatest that we can't know how he works

[@watchmanjason]

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto Him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto Him that put all things under Him, that God may be all in all. The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Father.

[@davidderitis9068]

Jesus is the Father manifest in the flesh: Jesus said if you have seen me you HAVE SEEN THE FATHER (Isaiah 9:6)

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

Jason Trillo you are right believe the Doctrine of Christ! Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Colossians 1:15 THE SON OF GOD IS THE FIRSTBORN OF EVERY CREATURE! A ONENESS PENTECOSTAL COULDN'T EXPLAIN THAT TO SAVE THEIR LITTLE BACKSLIDDEN SOUL!

[@ZA90224]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 Jesus is a clone of the Father , the Father looks like Jesus , Jesus looks like the Father but is not the Father , He created Jesus first in His heart then through Jesus the Father created everything , its in the Bible. So where is Jesus seated ? He is seated in the the heart or bossom of the Father its in the Bible .

[@IM.o.s.e.s.I]

1 Corinthians 15:22-28 KJV - For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. Read the word with integrity. Stop picking and choosing which notion of scripture to quote. That is deception.

[@Nateolos]

​@@IM.o.s.e.s.I The man will subject all things to the Spirit. It's just explaining that God, the Spirit, will be all things, in all.

[@dwashington1333]

The name in English is Jehovah not Yahweh! We say Jesus not Yeshua in English. The Watchtower Organization should not affect our use of Jehovah! The Old King James Bible uses Jehovah, the KJV is the Bible all other English bibles are measured by.

[@David-qz1gy]

Jesus didn’t pre-exist? John 1:1-2???????

[@Post-Trib]

His humanity didn't pre-exist except in the prophetic mind of God or Logos. Did Jeremiah pre-exist also?

[@rickypineda523]

The Father of the Old Testament is our LORD God Jesus Christ the Everlasting Father according to Isaiah 9:6 who created the heaven and earth. The Father of the New Testament is not the Creator of Heaven and Earth but an angels according to Hebrews 1:5 who is Michael the archangel who is like God but not God himself with a description of a jasper according to Ezekiel 28:13 and Revelation 4:3.

[@thomasbrisbane7122]

Colossians 2:9 speaks about Jesus resurrected body, not when Jesus was on earth. I don't understand how brother Bernard and brother Norris miss that.

[@viviennebaptiste]

what are you talking about?

[@thomasbrisbane7122]

@@viviennebaptiste what part you don't get..?

[@viviennebaptiste]

@@thomasbrisbane7122 may u explain urself

[@thomasbrisbane7122]

@@viviennebaptiste please read the whole chapter. It is obvious. Paul tells the Colossians they have been "made FULL" in Christ. This can only refer to being made FULL in the risen Christ. When God raised Jesus from the dead, He raised him far above all "rule and authority" subjecting all things to him. So for them to imply that the fullness of God dwelt in Jesus before his resurrection is just plain wrong.......

[@viviennebaptiste]

@@thomasbrisbane7122 the Bible says God raised Jesus, it also says the Spirit raised Jesus and Jesus said He will raise Himself

[@TruthFlix]

Jesus Christ has a Father do not let the serpent beguile you, God is not a Trinity or a Oneness, He is ONE and gave His son for the sins of the world.

[@maxwellhufford7115]

The Father and the Son are one. The Father was in the Son reconciling the world to Himself.

[@TruthFlix]

@@maxwellhufford7115 Indeed.

[@wangwang9635]

Baptism in Jesus’ name is in Matthew 28:19 Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of Jesus, and of the Holy Ghost.

[@imitatejesus]

That's not what it says. It says in the name of the father, the son, and holy spirit. So those are 3 titles of one name. What's the one name under heaven to which we are to be saved?

[@wangwang9635]

@@imitatejesus what name is it?

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

@@imitatejesus I have the same name as my father but I'm not him! If that was the case it could've just said in the name of God!

[@trentenbilson2317]

I ask the question was the apostles saved?

[@dreameruy9510]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 What is the name of the Father God...?

[@kevinst.julian2026]

ALL of you that follow this teaching are believing a false gospel. Jesus is the Son, not the Father or Holy Spirit.

[@11304800]

Jesus Christ is NOT the one true Cod. Jesus Christ is the begotten Son of God. I don't think Bernard is a liar-- I think he is really messed up.His books are not the Bible. Jesus prayed to God in hundreds of verses.

[@rachaelcherry7544]

This is a misrepresentation of what the trinity is. Trinitarians believe in ONE GOD! But as God said "let US make man in our Image" and we are three parts in one person (body, soul and spirit), so is God. The problem is that our finite minds have nothing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to compare the fullness of God to. So, we search for human terms to describe Him and His being. Therefore, in that, we get doctrines of the trinity or of oneness. We do not believed Jesus is "a second God!" We know He IS God. I could go on and on. But it is inappropriate to misrepresent the doctrine of the trinity in order to substantiate the views of Oneness.

[@Post-Trib]

Who coined the word trinitas or trinity and who formulated the doctrine of the trinity?

[@katelynmorse8800]

That's what I was going to say. The first church had no idea what trinity was. To say there is a trinity is misinterpreting who God is. You can't belive in the old testament knowledge and foundation it lays and makes way for the new testament if you belive in a trinity. Trinity was introduced 300 years after Jesus. If the first church couldn't preach it and belive it then you know it's false.

[@kolbibowesable]

So God will not share his glory with another yet you believe he will share it with the “man” Jesus Christ as the human only intercedes for us? You’re separating God from the Man Jesus. You are creating in your hypocrisy the very thing you claim to about: two persons to ascribe glory to except you’re staying the Son exists as human only for all of eternity. Which is it? One God to ascribe glory to or one God and one man? The amount of hypocrisies within this half hour video is quite astounding. You continue to represent that trinitarians use “person” and “being” interchangeably or that they believe Jesus is “one God praying to another God.” You are actively misrepresenting the Trinity to dismiss it, which doesn’t dismiss it at all considering you’ve wrongly associated it with a contradiction.

[@kavikv.d.hexenholtz3474]

Oneness Pentecostalism - a modern herrasy.

[@imitatejesus]

The concept of the trinity is more of a modern idea. The Jews knew that there is only one God, they're monotheistic. His apostles were Jews too so they would've understood God is one too. Jesus said before Abraham, I AM. Implying himself as the great I AM.

[@davidderitis9068]

I assume you mean HERESY (which the belief in a 'triune God' or 'holy trinity' is)

[@Ox4k1xO]

No, Jesus WAS NOT any of the things you claim, HE IS

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

There is only one doctrine that the Bible encourages us to embrace. It is definitely neither trinitarian nor oneness!! There's not a scripture in the Bible that supports a trinitarian doctrine or a oneness doctrine not one single scripture!! The Bible itself very clearly and very specifically tells us what doctrine to believe and to ABIDE in!! 9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9 KJV Not one person in the Bible considered themselves to be trinitarian or oneness and if you've been calling yourself that repent!

[@davidderitis9068]

Three is only ONE GOD: that is the principle doctrine in both the old and new testament! Jesus is the Father manifest in the flesh and therefore we trust in the ONLY NAME whereby we must be saved (Acts 2:38, 4:12, Isaiah 9:6)

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

@@davidderitis9068 Only problem is there is not even one scripture that says what you just typed! Add thou not unto his words, Lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Proverbs 30:6

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. 2 John 1:3 KJV THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS NOT THE FATHER HE IS THE SON OF THE FATHER JUST LIKE SCRIPTURE SAYS!!

[@Post-Trib]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 God the Father became his own Son. There's only one God and his name is Jesus

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

@@Post-Trib you couldn't read that in the Bible to save your life!

[@watchmanjason]

Apostle Paul believes that there is in fact God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and is distinct person.

[@biblicalmeditation2040]

Apostle Paul doesn't believe a trinitarian doctrine and he definitely doesn't believe a oneness doctrine he believes The Doctrine of Christ! Its the only doctrine supported by the Bible! Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 2 John 1:9

[@trentenbilson2317]

@@biblicalmeditation2040 Deuteronomy 6:4 Mark 12:24-34 How we see God is important, the reason why is because we don’t want to worship the wrong God. So we need to be clear on who our God is and how many He is. Many say that God is three persons in one, but where in the bible does it attribute God or the Spirit of God to an actual human being. So that can only mean that there is one or more gods or God, so how many are there. There are three main belief sections on this topic, Polytheism which is the belief of multiple Gods, Trinitarian which is the belief of three Gods, and then Monotheism which is the belief of simply one God that has and can reveal Himself in multiple ways. We have all these beliefs so which one is correct. Ephesians 4:1-6 There is only one Lord, one Faith, one Baptism, One God and Father of all. Now people might say this is only talking about the Father, there is only one Father, but there is only, One Son, and One Holy Ghost. Most people say God is 1+1+1=1 that isn’t even mathematically correct or biblical. It’s 1x1x1=1. Matthew 28:19 Many Trinitarians like to use this verse to prove their point which is great I love this verse. But the fact that it proves the Trinity is pushing it, I would like to say it says name and not names. So that disproves their point because if there are three god’s than it would say names. Than something else I would like to talk about the thought of three gods. Which one is for salvation the Father, the Son, or the Holy Ghost? It can’t be all three because. Acts 4:10-12 So that would mean the Son is the one for salvation, so we don’t need the Holy Ghost, we don’t need God's spirit inside of us. Isaiah 43:10-11; 44:8 These people who believe in other Gods beside the one knows more than God Himself. What is even worse. James 2:19 The devil knows there is only one God and trembles. Collosians 1:19;2:8-9 In the Father and Christ(Son) dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily, but God is three so how can this happen? This can only mean they care for one and the came. 1 John 2:22-24; 4:1-3 1 Timothy 3:16 2 John 1:7 Whoever denieth that Jesus who is both Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is a liar and antichrist. If you would like I can go more into this with you privately.

[@samename6479]

God is a Spirit. And these 3 are 1....(not 3 persons)

[@trentenbilson2317]

@@samename6479 So what do you believe as far as how many Gods, Spirits, or Persons make up the Godhead, because I think I know what you meant but I just want to make sure.