GoPro Hero 12 vs DJI Osmo Action 4 - IN-DEPTH COMPARISON

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David Manning

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@benaback7384
@benaback7384 Жыл бұрын
David, that was an absolute genius move putting the sponsor spot in with the audio test. 10/10 Amazing move.
@thetanweerali
@thetanweerali 4 ай бұрын
Yeah that was sick
@maruwaanmoses
@maruwaanmoses Жыл бұрын
I've been shooting GoPro for 8 years and can confidently say it's time to switch. The Action 4 is a better camera. Thanks for the awesome breakdown.
@ghostechvids
@ghostechvids Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!!! ❤
@topbanana4013
@topbanana4013 Жыл бұрын
lol for what reasons and what was your last gopro. gi ve a structured comment as you be going backwards if you did so with latest dji
@007cambon
@007cambon Жыл бұрын
If you’re willing to have inferior colour and brightness
@kishibenoa3346
@kishibenoa3346 11 ай бұрын
@@007cambon 14:45 inferior colour lul
@DigiDriftZone
@DigiDriftZone 10 ай бұрын
Same, I've been using GoPro since Hero4 and I've hated every single model! - constant glitching, if I don't remember to take the battery out, it will drain in my bag while switched off, my Hero8 with the "blue" battery constantly switches off from the cold when skiing, frustrating unresponsive interface, etc, etc. Just got my Action 4 yesterday, can't wait to see what it can do!
@aussiebandit7580
@aussiebandit7580 Жыл бұрын
If you're not already part of the GoPro ecosystem, I'd go with DJI all the way. I feel like they have more passion then GoPro to keep innovating in the future while they have an amazing drone lineup that you can also take advantage of within the same brand.
@channelMasterGuiGame
@channelMasterGuiGame Жыл бұрын
But how does the camera connects to their drones
@NowhereForMeToSit
@NowhereForMeToSit Жыл бұрын
I was part of the GoPro ecosystem. I sold all my GoPro cameras and accessories. I'm all in with DJI.
@SchuylerOrtega
@SchuylerOrtega Жыл бұрын
This is me exactly! The menu system is like my Osmo Pocket 1/2 and similar to my drones. Osmo Action 4 fit it perfectly on my last vacation. No regrets and I bought right before the GP12 was released.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
@@channelMasterGuiGame I think what he's going for is the similar menus and UI system from their drones, but also just company reliability. Once a company has shown that they can deliver a high functioning and reliable product, you tend to trust future products from that same company. Reputation is very important
@TimEckel
@TimEckel Жыл бұрын
​@@channelMasterGuiGamethey use the same image sensor on the DJI Mini 3, so you can cut between both sources without adjustments.
@Voltis-5
@Voltis-5 Жыл бұрын
Going from the GP9 to Action 4. Talk about A HUGE upgrade. Not overheating, losing files, freezing up and can use the app with live mode is awesome!
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
This is quite the upgrade! It's wild how far these cameras have come lately!
@KentRoads
@KentRoads Жыл бұрын
I've never in 15 GoPros lost a file lmao
@Moedaprince
@Moedaprince Жыл бұрын
I bought the DJI Action 4, and tried 4k 60fps in an "cold enviroument" 16 degrees celsius not even in the sun, i tried all 3 fully charged batteries, newest firmware, and after 15minutes it shuts down because of overheating....:( im gonna send it back to amazon and buy the GoPro Hero 12 hope gopro dont overheat and shut down.....:(
@sureshrijal790
@sureshrijal790 Жыл бұрын
hay man i dont have any action camera till this date and i am planning to go nepal for high altitude mountain climb next month (above 6500m from sea level temp. like -20/30) which camera should i buy can you suggest to me please special for extermly cold place @@Moedaprince .
@Voltis-5
@Voltis-5 Жыл бұрын
@@KentRoads lucky! This is my first GP and it's been nothing but issue. Won't be my last but I'll wait till they get better. Maybe GP 13 will be completely different and not just a slight "upgrade" like they do every release 😅
@arturoguedeseara
@arturoguedeseara Жыл бұрын
I've just cycled across Africa for 7 months using a osmo action 3 and not a single problem. So many things I didn't miss to record because I had this camera. One friend joined for a few months with a gopro and he had so many freezing and overheating issues... also the he missed a lot shots because of the time reaction. Osmo action is a rock 💪🏽
@cpanbalagan
@cpanbalagan 4 ай бұрын
Very true bro, I had GoPro and it's totally unreliable. I would rather have a camera that works (DJI or insta) than a one that won't (GoPro). I have missed so many valuable moments because of GoPro... When the customer looses trust the brand dies..
@syahrul6746
@syahrul6746 4 ай бұрын
Kalo untuk cinematic bagus gak?
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Жыл бұрын
Great comparison!
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Wow dude, thank you brother. Means a lot coming from you. Been a fan of yours for a long time!
@g33k_Tech
@g33k_Tech 9 ай бұрын
Will Jerry test this device durability
@asaamv
@asaamv 7 ай бұрын
cant wait to see your de assembling :)
@andreamarcovaldi
@andreamarcovaldi Жыл бұрын
Super happy owner of an OA4 since its debut and never regretted after the hero 12 came out. About external dji mics, you can use only one transmitter w/o mounting the receiver on the OA4 preserving its waterproof capabilities as the transmitter has its internal storage 😊
@burtonjnb
@burtonjnb Жыл бұрын
I would use my phone to change settings on the gopro as opposed to de-mounting when you are unable to reach the back of the camera.
@TomerChenRihana
@TomerChenRihana Жыл бұрын
I switched to Action 4 from Gopro 10. After two weeks of daily use I can say that the camera does not heat up at all and that I can connect an ext microphone directly to the camera is simply another leve of use. Glad I switched... well done dji !
@edwinjuma6011
@edwinjuma6011 Жыл бұрын
Please bless me with the GoPro 10. It will help me start content creation. Thanks!!
@NowhereSomewhere24
@NowhereSomewhere24 4 ай бұрын
@@edwinjuma6011😂 All the best👍
@AlienTVmercados
@AlienTVmercados 3 ай бұрын
​@@edwinjuma6011badjao
@briangschaefer7048
@briangschaefer7048 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you David. The Action 4's practicalities definitely make it the better camera. It is so disappointing that the Hero 12 is still struggling with so many of the problems that have long been an issue with GoPro. If I didn't already have all the GoPro gear from owning 2 previous models, I would go with the Action 4.
@backpacker_ricky
@backpacker_ricky Жыл бұрын
How strong is that DJI magnetic mount?
@markwornom1050
@markwornom1050 Жыл бұрын
What problems? My Hero 12 works flawlessly.
@florinho1994
@florinho1994 9 ай бұрын
Can't you use all the gopro stuff for the dji? Tought the mounts are alle the same
@Disposalist
@Disposalist 6 ай бұрын
@@florinho1994 The magnetic mount is on top of the GoPro compatible hinge mount. Whereas the GoPro just has the flaps on the bottom that attach straight to the hinge by the thumbscrew. The Action4 has an additional mechanism that has magnetic _and_ clip attachment that is very quick to undo/redo.
@JustinPulitzerTrades
@JustinPulitzerTrades Жыл бұрын
My biggest.complaint is the Action 4 looks a little darker around the face in bright lighting. I wonder if a little bump in EV comp could fix that? When you do the night mode test, please try the HDR on the GoPro. I've seen a few reviews where that supposedly helps the low light performance a lot.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Interesting Justin. The HDR mode on the GoPro says that it needs bright light to work well. Again though, preference matters. From my perspective of someone who edits my footage in post, I like that the Action 4 protects the highlights by reducing the exposure. When I'm ever shooting a GoPro, I always run it at -0.5 exposure compensation because GoPro is known to let the highlights blow out. Once a spot in the image goes 100% white, it's unrecoverable in post. For me, I would prefer to run it darker in camera to give me better results in post
@JustinPulitzerTrades
@JustinPulitzerTrades Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog I know, it's wild.. BUT I've seen a could of reviews that shoe better low light performance w/ the HDR on. The Action 4 still beats the 12 in low light, but it's a lot closer than when HDR is off. Here's one of those reviews for an example. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppDZeYZ6pbZ4sNEsi=Op-ls_hVSNyNYArx It's an action camera, not everyone wants to do a lot of editing in post. I often just do simple updates in the Apple Photo program. The desktop one does some great corrects w/ auto. Sometimes small tweaks are necessary, but it does some nice work... especially for Sony camera footage, It helps warm it up.
@SheedyVideo
@SheedyVideo 2 ай бұрын
The Gopro12 really has better image quality vs Action 4 and even vs the new 5 pro and in low light you are wright HDR makes a big difference
@Richardm1981
@Richardm1981 Жыл бұрын
I think some people are asking the wrong questions when talking about overheating. To your point on a previous video, it’s not overheating because it can’t do the job it’s overheating because the software is telling it it’s too hot. The real question is, what does it do on the long run on the dji not shutting down when overheating. That can’t be good for the internals?
@MarkSixFilms
@MarkSixFilms Жыл бұрын
GoPro needs to realize that they’re going to have to completely redesign that camera at some point to keep up with competition that has already outpaced them. Cosmetics and software enhancements will only get them so far.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
I concur doctor!
@gedreeves
@gedreeves Жыл бұрын
​@@thomzalol how is he a fan boy. He likes one version of another camera better 😂
@KayakDIY
@KayakDIY Жыл бұрын
Exactly….and they aren’t even doing the software enhancements well. I’ve had more card write errors, freezing, and what I consider software issues with GoPro.
@MarKuzvicky
@MarKuzvicky Жыл бұрын
..and the sensor too.
@Bournemouthjetwashing
@Bournemouthjetwashing Жыл бұрын
Got fed up with go pro overheating have switched over to DJI , no problems at all and no glitches connecting camera to phone, unlike the go pro which was such a ballache
@ChristopherGronlund
@ChristopherGronlund Жыл бұрын
First, thank you for always putting in such an effort on great videos. You (and a couple others) sold me on the OSMO Action 4. The footage looks more like what I see when I'm out hiking, biking, or canoeing, and if I want that punchier GoPro look, it's easy to get in editing. My wife and I love our OA4, and it's getting us outside even more.
@MainJet158
@MainJet158 Жыл бұрын
95% of my action camera use is motocross and DJI just works for me. After watching so many comparison videos, the image of either camera looks better or worse depending on the time of day, sunshine, overcast, rain. It's also really easy to screw up a setting and make the footage look terrible and the same goes for the software one uses to create the videos. In this video I think the GP looks a little better but I also know with one or 2 setting tweaks the DJI will look just as good. I have to mention that the GP media mod is a nightmare to use and to change batteries. DJI is so much easier to use.
@pietzaken2220
@pietzaken2220 Жыл бұрын
I have a gopro 10, but after i bought a dji mini 3 pro and loved it, i became more interested in other products DJI had to offer, including the action 4. Altough the gopro was fine in most situations, the battery died pretty fast and i also did not like the mounting system. So i bought the action 4 and it has been great, the same as you say in your review; usability is just awesom. I have the adventure pack and you can shoot all day with the 3 batteries. Include a powerbank to charge the dji battery case and you never run out of power. The only thing i don't like, is that is sometimes to wide, even in dewarp. Thanks
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
The Combo Packs that DJI offers with their products is genius! I always go for the combo whether its' on their Action series or any of their drones. I'll take a couple extra batteries and a charger all day. You pretty much get everything you need straight out of the box and you're ready to go👍
@Simon-qy7pe
@Simon-qy7pe Жыл бұрын
So true your final comment. The DJI Action 4 is hands down the better device. shame its field of view is too wide for those of us who just want a normal perspective.
@spirittravels.
@spirittravels. Жыл бұрын
@@Simon-qy7pe Thanks for this observation. Did you try standard dewarp?
@Simon-qy7pe
@Simon-qy7pe Жыл бұрын
@@spirittravels. yes, tried standard De-Warp. I held the action4 camera up against the Gopro to compare each time I adjusted a FOV or resolution / frame rate setting. The Action 4 FOV becomes Normal (minimal distortion) at 2.7K 60FPS Dewarp and Narrow FOV settings. Another big issue with all these cameras on Wide or extra wide FOV is motion (Speed) of subject, say landscape or objects pass the frame at exaggerated high speed. For example if I was to attach the Action 4 to my motorcycle helmet and travel at 40km/hr with the Action4 set to 4k 60fps dewarp FOV it appears the scenerey is whizzing past at 100km/hr. It’s just not right for my use case
@pietzaken2220
@pietzaken2220 Жыл бұрын
mabye with an update they can make it better@@Simon-qy7pe
@WiscAirGunners
@WiscAirGunners Жыл бұрын
Using the Action 3 and now 4 for primary cameras in both extreme hot and cold temps. No regrets going DJI.
@TheRage0180
@TheRage0180 Жыл бұрын
Is $369 for dji action 3 adventure combo a good price to go with over dji4?
@hoya225
@hoya225 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for good review. I have GP11 and Action4. GP11's 5.3k shows very good image, but I love action4's low light image and long life battery.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
I really do need to do a full low light comparison on these two... I'll get on that asap!
@TeddyGBig
@TeddyGBig Жыл бұрын
I'm counting on that review 😉@@DavidManningvlog
@Eucharist3
@Eucharist3 Жыл бұрын
Thanks David... when I listen to the difference between the two, I get the sense that the DJI is developed by someone who used it a lot. Making life easier.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
That's a great way to see it! When you use these cameras all day long, the Action 4 just feels easier to use. Both AMAZING cameras, but ease of use is very appreciated🙌
@JeffreyTadlockPhotography
@JeffreyTadlockPhotography Жыл бұрын
I'll definitey be going Action 4. The GoPro frustrates me with its overheating and miserable performance in cold temps. I shot a borrowed Action 1st Gen vs my Hero 11 and the Hero could not stay turned on in cold weather, meanwhile the Action Gen 1 had ZERO issues. Sure the video quality was different between those two - but given the GoPro couldn't even stay on and recording - that doesn't really help. Can't wait to have the Action 4 in hand... And thanks for the video - super informative and helpful as always!
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
I had the same issue getting my Hero 11 to work on a trip to Brianhead😑
@haystack1
@haystack1 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog my A3 has followed me to about 20 snow resorts, as low as -20F, never had an issue shooting whole day until all 3 batteries down to 0%
@NathanPaterson_2
@NathanPaterson_2 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure if tap the GoPros power button it changes between video, photo and time lapse, and on the 12 specifically if you hit the power and record button at the same time it scrolls through your presets on the front screen.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Yep, made a video on that awhile back. It's basically like a QS menu for each mode you're in. But if you want to switch between video and hyper lapse, you have to first switch modes, then do the button press again to get into your hyperlapse presets. The QS menu on the Action can have any preset you have in any order you want them👍
@vanislemtb
@vanislemtb Жыл бұрын
I completely agree! After having 3...yes 3 hero 11 minis replaced on warranty I would say the biggest 2 reasons are reliability and battery life. Never has the action 3 or 4 let me down while with the GoPro cameras I have had constant issues. Nothing worse then going out to film for a day and realizing that your GoPro has decided that it no longer will turn on or that it has decided that it will not read any of the sd cards you have with you. No issues at all with the DJI Action cameras at all. Just reliable and easy to use cameras that work every time
@cezarras
@cezarras Жыл бұрын
You had remind me that I had hero 9 with media mode. It was still on garante I have wrote to gopro but thay just never responded... Now my mediamode is just balast on my back pack... I was also very disappointed with audio quiaty on media mode
@brazilianriderinhungary
@brazilianriderinhungary 4 ай бұрын
I also had a mini 11 and had issues 3 times with it in less than 1 year, third time I didn't accept a replacement, just asked my money back. The cameras spent more time in maintenance than with me, I guess I could even call it disrespectful with GoPro customers, that's why now I am gonna go for another brand and probably never buy a GoPro again.
@KayakFishingAddict
@KayakFishingAddict Жыл бұрын
I've been loyal to GoPro for years and multiple upgrades. I just switched from GoPro Hero 8 Black to OSMO Action 4. I run three of them for multicam footage. It's a great upgrade!
@kaltask1
@kaltask1 Жыл бұрын
You can get the DJI mounting system to a gopro if you buy the feet made for that (works like normally but has also DJI locking system). But yeah, If I would have neither I might end up with Action 4.
@BGoodman
@BGoodman Жыл бұрын
I’ve been testing the DJI all month! I chose it because I plan to dive deeper into the DJI ecosystem, such as the new rumored pocket 3 and mini pro 4. I do think the go pro looks but you said it. The KZbin compression makes it hard to tell at all!
@kennethpreston9813
@kennethpreston9813 Жыл бұрын
This is the best KZbin review comparing the two cameras. I chose the Action 4 camera and I am really enjoying using it. Zero problems and easy to use. Thanks for such a clear, unbiased review of the two cameras.
@007cambon
@007cambon Жыл бұрын
Except for the fact that the GoPro has the better colour and brightness
@nathanwiens4206
@nathanwiens4206 Жыл бұрын
It's an interesting discussion... I have a ton of DJI products from gimbals to drones (and O3 air units on my FPVs) and a handful of GoPro. DJI is killing it on workflow and user features, but man, you look at the image, and DJI crushes the blacks and loses detail in the shadows. Tough call. All user features are 100% DJI, but the end product, the footage, GoPro has the most latitude. Mash up, perhaps? ;-)
@SheedyVideo
@SheedyVideo 2 ай бұрын
The Gopro12 really has better image quality vs Action 4 and even vs the new 5 pro and in low light try in HDR it makes a big difference
@michaelnielsen7627
@michaelnielsen7627 Жыл бұрын
David I’m a huge GoPro fan, but what you say in this video makes so much sense. Thank you for being honest. I will go sleep with the enemy and buy the Action 4 😅
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison between the two actions cameras. Both of them seem really good, you probably can't go wrong with either one. Thanks for sharing.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
I switched from GoPro to DJI OA3 for one reason, reliability. Something not mentioned in this video. While I prefer the DJI in almost every way I will now be without it for at least a month while I send it in to DJI to address the flickering issue. When you enable the EIS priority in low light function it disables the anti-flicker function. This is a major problem when filming action sports where image stabilization is so important. A lot of my footage has been un-usable recently because of the flickering effect. If you buy a DJI camera today and have a problem with it tomorrow you cannot return it, instead you must send it to DJI and wait for them to look at it. I will reluctantly be switching back to GoPro.
@TungstenOvergaard
@TungstenOvergaard Жыл бұрын
I'm a gopro fan, i went for gopro 12... and I'm really sad they are not at the level of dji in the things you mention. Great honesto video!
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
If you're not using the MediaMod a ton, that Falcam bottom piece really ups the GoPro's functionality and makes it work with the DJI mounting system🙌 Check the description for a link or head over to my $20 GoPro accessory video
@TungstenOvergaard
@TungstenOvergaard Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog thanks for the advice David!
@StewComedy
@StewComedy Жыл бұрын
Order the $15-18 adapter that will give you access to magnetic mount. At least that's 1 feature that you can copy from Action 4. I'm still undecided myself which to buy and even the Insta One RS twin edition has come into the conversation. Choices LOL
@morphyus
@morphyus 10 ай бұрын
@davidmanningvlog There is a way to switch presets on gopro, just click the side button then the shutter button while holding down side button. Use side button to navigate and shutter to select the mode.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've talked through that before, but even then, it's only within the one mode that you're in. So if you're in video and you want to switch to a photo preset, you first need to change modes, then enter the custom menu, then you can get to that preset. Silly that they don't just have a custom preset menu for all modes combined
@shawn.champagne
@shawn.champagne Жыл бұрын
Thanks David! I just picked up the Action 4 thanks to your videos and I'm looking forward to using it! For me the reliability of the camera, the larger sensor, the mounting system and DJI's audio solution was just too good to pass up on, especially for the price. The only things I thought were enticing about the GoPro was the 8x7 sensor for full frame shooting and I do think I prefer GoPro's overall color science. At the end of the day however, after seeing both compared side by side, gotta go with DJI. GoPro will have no choice but to innovate soon otherwise they won't be able to keep up with the competition in the near future.
@Yujin_West
@Yujin_West Жыл бұрын
Does this camera have optical entrainment? And how does the camera take photos?
@rhyansanpedro
@rhyansanpedro Жыл бұрын
After watching the comparison the DJI is definitely my pick, thanks for another informative video David.
@JeffRevell
@JeffRevell Жыл бұрын
I know that the DJI is just a more feature-rich camera when it comes to things like battery life, charge time, thermals, and mounting but that's kind of where its benefits outshined the Hero 12. For me, the out-of-the-camera footage on the GoPro just looks better. As someone who generally doesn't want to color-grade footage, I just prefer that GoPro look. Also, I don't know if it was just me but in the ride-around footage, it definitely looks like the GoPro has better shadow performance than the DJI. I'm not sure if the HDR was turned on but there was certainly more detail and brightness in the shadow areas for the GoPro. I use my camera quite a bit for mountain biking and I'm in the trees a lot so getting good HDR performance is important to me. I'm also a GoPro subscriber so that means that I get $100 of the price of the camera. Getting that $100 price break makes a huge difference. Honestly, though, I think buying either camera will be a win, no matter which camera you get. They are both really impressive.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
That's sort of where I'm at too Jeff, with either camera you really can't lose. Both insanely good🙌
@eugeneputin1858
@eugeneputin1858 Жыл бұрын
You pay that extra 100 upfront lol
@JeffRevell
@JeffRevell Жыл бұрын
@@eugeneputin1858 it’s actually $50 so if you upgrade cameras and purchase accessories it’s still money saved.
@shoveljunk-americanpatriot7603
@shoveljunk-americanpatriot7603 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I want to shoot the Milkyway galaxy. What DJI gimbal will work or other brands. Not to expensive.
@TimEckel
@TimEckel Жыл бұрын
I consider the running time per battery one of main advantages of the Osmo 4. While some can just change the battery when it runs out, In my typical filming situation, I can't get to the battery. So battery life is crucial.
@mtbboy1993
@mtbboy1993 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see a battery life comparison in a freezer or outdoors in sub zero temps. I heard in another video 12 only handles down to -10C, but the Action 4 handles -20c.
@arkanos
@arkanos 11 ай бұрын
I went to finnish lapland last december and recording 4k 50fps the battery of my action 4 lasted more than 1h more or less at -19º. I recorded 2 videos of 30~ min each. Still had some battery left for small video and pictures. Quite happy with it.
@Mista_G
@Mista_G Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a 4 way comparison between Hero 12, OA4, One RS 4K boost, and One RS 1". Considering they all serve the same purpose, it would be a very interesting comparison.
@KentRoads
@KentRoads 4 ай бұрын
I was hoping the left one was the OA4 as it looks so much... deeper... the shadows are so much nicer and contain colour, aren't just black blobs
@MrChampmoney
@MrChampmoney Жыл бұрын
Definitely go pro to my right dji to my left. I think dji has better balance and low light go pro has better saturation. Thanks for doing the comparison😊.
@lonewolfoftejas
@lonewolfoftejas Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the review. I knew where you were as soon as the video started. Lived in OSIDE for a while and miss it every day. Thanks buddy.
@pablomunoz6118
@pablomunoz6118 Жыл бұрын
Only issue I've seen with the action 4 are the water drops whilst using it in water sports such as surfing which can be fixed in the gopro using older non hydrophobic lenses. Has anyone found a way around this for the action 4??
@gore0710
@gore0710 Жыл бұрын
i changed from hero 12 to Action 4 after 4 weeks. Best decission. Gopro still uses the laggy touch on the back, same laggy software, losing files and stuff. Thank you david for your videos. Made my decission easier :)
@melparayno21
@melparayno21 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. As a gopro fan and supporter of american companies. I couldn't bring myself to choose it over what DJI has to offer because of the "little bits" you mentioned. Faster charging, longer battery life, magnetic mounting, dual touch screens, better UI, better touch sensitivity, better responsiveness, higher overheating threshold, better cold temp battery life, and the most important, better reliability (this is the biggest one for me.) I don't mind a slightly lower video quality if I know every time I press record I know I got the shot. rather than knowing oh man this footage is gonna be so good! then you check your camera, and it's frozen and you missed the actual shot. Until gopro figures that out and remove that from their system, I can't go back to them.
@shankhanilsarkar2161
@shankhanilsarkar2161 Жыл бұрын
Please compare DJI action 3 vs 4 vs GoPro 12 for low light... Thank you for this video.
@unlisted773
@unlisted773 Жыл бұрын
The color saturation of the DJI is good, but it makes the image too dark. That's a big differentiator for me.
@yasunakaikumi
@yasunakaikumi Жыл бұрын
it is dark but it still has that information if you edit it in post, so just raise the shadow. do be more concern on highlight blown out since those are more harder to recover than shadows
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Solid point and I might address this in a future video, but DJI seems to protect the highlights better than GoPro. In the video world, once a part of the image goes 100% white, you lose that information and can't pull it back. That's why in every settings guide I've ever made, I say to run your GoPro at -0.5 exposure compensation
@Jomo-x6n
@Jomo-x6n Жыл бұрын
Just increase the exposure compensation on the Action 4 by a 1/2 to 1 stop.
@sunlit777
@sunlit777 Жыл бұрын
On a GoPro you can also switch between modes including custom profiles with a button, but a bit more tricky you have to press and hold top button and then press the side one to cycle through modes (or somthing like that)
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm stoked they offer that, but it's only for the current mode you're in. So if you're in VIDEO mode, you can cycle the video presets, but if you want to switch to a HYPERLAPSE or PHOTO preset, you first need to switch modes, then do that button press sequence again to get to those presets. The QS menu can have any modes you use in any order you choose👍 I just want to see GoPro copy the QS menus wholesale
@mahmudurrahman2941
@mahmudurrahman2941 Жыл бұрын
action 4 is all over best, but image quality is best on gopro.
@jpv.e171
@jpv.e171 7 ай бұрын
please learn to edit photos
@costtv
@costtv 5 ай бұрын
@Mahmudurrahman2941 Out Of 60 Comments I read I Stand With You On The Image Quality… However, Audio Is More Important To Me… Im Still On The Fence… The Image Quality On The Go Pro Is Amazing…
@TheMarietto91
@TheMarietto91 Ай бұрын
At 2:50 how did you manage to capture the sky and yourself perfectly? I mean the colors and the white balance.. what were your settings? 😊
@keithmeline7485
@keithmeline7485 Жыл бұрын
I used my new Hero 12 this past weekend specifically to test out the HDR mode. Went on an acrobatic thrill ride in a Pitts Biplane - the footage was good, but honestly the HDR footage was underwhelming. Footage looks like it has some sort of HDR filter that you can add in mobile editing apps. It was a sunny morning, but some haze was present where we were doing our maneuvers. Either way, I’ll be staying away from HDR mode.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Yeah, HDR modes can be tricky, especially in video modes. In general, I would prefer shooting in LOG and editing in post to get the most dynamic range rather than trusting an HDR mode to do it's voodoo
@keithmeline7485
@keithmeline7485 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog yuppppp expensive lesson learned. The footage is poooo poo 😂
@octny
@octny Жыл бұрын
Besides the lack of GPS, another step back is the fact that the High or Standard Bit Rate setting was moved from the profiles to the settings, under Video. So if you say choose High Bit rate, it applies to all profiles. You cannot change this during a scuba dive since you can only switch profiles. So if your gopro overheats under water due to the high bit rate, it will shut down since you cannot move it to Standard Bit Rate. I am pretty sure the new Bluetooth chip warms it up pretty much, since it shut down on me after using the airpods to record sound.
@joppe.v
@joppe.v Жыл бұрын
i don't really care about the difference in specs, but in the comparison in the beginning the Action 4 looks way better in my opinion. It's not as oversharpened, which very often is a problem with small-sensor cameras
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Both cameras were on their default settings with Medium sharp, so you could go a little lower on sharpening on both, but the Action 4 now allows you to control noise reduction as well. For me, the biggest deal is that the Action 4 defaults to a lower exposure to protect highlights. When I'm shooting a GoPro, I always run it at -0.5 exposure compensation because they get a little loose with highlights
@joppe.v
@joppe.v Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog thanks, good to know, i've always used gopro's until the 8, i'll probably get the action 4 soon
@Tim-Temple
@Tim-Temple Жыл бұрын
Highly looking forward to the low light image quality comparisons. Do you plan on doing a low light image comparison on the Action 4 vs Insta360 ONE 1" sensor? Anyway good comparison video.
@TheCameraManReviews
@TheCameraManReviews Жыл бұрын
B offers better dynamic range & better colors IMO.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
For filmmakers, the Action 4 for sure protects the highlights better for editing in post👍
@meetankush
@meetankush Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog Given the track record of DJI for introducing feature updates with software, I am hoping they bring out even better HDR than they have now.
@TJ-po9ol
@TJ-po9ol 3 ай бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog The digital sharpening is too much in dji's "log" mode vs gopro
@soldier9927
@soldier9927 Жыл бұрын
did you tried HDR on go pro ? because from other reviews it put in almost on par in low light with action 4 and in daylight the sky and highlights definitely won on go pro 12
@IanTed
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
Still quite happy with my Action 1 and 3 for moto vlogging and walking/travel along side the Insta 360 x2. Dropped GoPro many moons ago due to overheating and software/firmware issues, never regretted this decision. Sure these are both great cameras but it will be DJI again next change. Great review video as always👍
@TheZakkmylde
@TheZakkmylde Жыл бұрын
Do you have to pay for subscriptions to view or edit your videos lake with GoPro?
@IanTed
@IanTed Жыл бұрын
@@TheZakkmylde No idea, I think you added your comment as a reply to mine, try the general comments section.😀
@cezarras
@cezarras Жыл бұрын
For me B. I am sceptic about magnetic mount. I understand that when the camera is brend knew it's fine, but that after one year or two? It would be really bed to jump to the ocean with you camera and say fairwell as it sinks to the bottom
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Might have to do a whole video on these new fangled magnetic mounts just to prove a point. It's BANANAS that GoPro hasn't added their own magnetic mount yet. It's probably the most game changing element in your actual day to day usage of the cameras
@JordanKyle
@JordanKyle Жыл бұрын
I know it would be an expensive video so that's why no one's doing it but I would love to see a durability test of these two cameras. The Action 4 just seems more brittle with the big touch screen on the front and the Hero 12 looks like a tank. That's a video I would love to see
@yasunakaikumi
@yasunakaikumi Жыл бұрын
it's only the looks, I drag my OA3 in the sand dropped it in a river with lot of granet stones and even riding a bike dropped from my hand to asphalt... it did not scratch nor brake the glass of it, it's quite strong, i bet stronger than iphone or galaxy phone, tho i would recommend just for extra protection buying a cage incase you dropped it from really long fall or higher velocity accident both gopro and action imo
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Oh boy... Let me see what I can do!
@xHelloSushix
@xHelloSushix Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlogany protective cases you recommend for OA4? im using mine for spartan races, at least that’s the plan.
@hoya225
@hoya225 Жыл бұрын
And nowadays I found Gopro11 have some trouble when I meet big exposure and margin side image quality. If you see image at 11:14, you can see detail difference in right margin side. I recognized it with Gopro11, but I guess Gopro12 is also same.
@NordicNomad
@NordicNomad Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the GoPro 12. But only because I'm stuck in the ecosystem. But certainly disappointed that GoPro used the same sensor in the GoPro 12. DJI is a very good and important competitor. Competition is so important. I really hope GoPro gets up off the couch and starts improving its future lineup. Because next time I will definitely buy the Dji if GoPro disappoints again.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Oh man, this is EXACTLY how I feel! Some competition in the market only gets us all a better camera from both companies! I think the better the Action 4 gets, th emore pressure there is on GoPro to step up their game, and vice versa!
@petercrombie6652
@petercrombie6652 Жыл бұрын
I've had GoPro for years and certainly never felt like I was stuck in their 'ecosystem'... (what ecosystem?) when making the change. After so many many years of GP just not giving a damn with all of their crap which they never seem to be able to fix, the change was a no-brainer. And personally, I expect DJI to just start pulling away in terms of reliability, quality and innovation.
@NordicNomad
@NordicNomad Жыл бұрын
„Ecosystem“ is probably the wrong word for it. Of course I mean the fact that I already use their cloud service a lot. If that clears things up a bit.
@alexgogashvili9748
@alexgogashvili9748 Жыл бұрын
I don't really trust action 4 magnet mount
@canyonblue737-8
@canyonblue737-8 Жыл бұрын
@@alexgogashvili9748there just aren’t example of people having the mounts fail. i use a similar mount with the insta360 go 3 and it is super solid. that said you can always put the action 4 in a cage which has a go pro foot and then attach it with a regular screw to a gopro mount for the scenarios you are most concerned about. BTW: gopro just filed for a patent on a magnetic mount system for the bottom of a future gopro just this week. they know they have to adapt.
@dkjens0705
@dkjens0705 Жыл бұрын
I use a GoPro Hero 10 Black in a GoPro underwater housing with Backscatter flip with one red filter and one +15 diopter for close ups. Also I have a powerful video light mounted to the bottom of the housing for any close up where adding light makes such a huge difference. I have not been impressed by my GoPro. Start up latency has made me miss sequences, "rapairing files" situations and green screen situations are very bothersome. I did a five minute video sequence in a wreck in 2.7K 60 mode and the housing started fogging up. I will seriously consider the Action 4 as a replacement/upgrade if diopter flip mounts are available for the underwater housing.
@AmericanRoads
@AmericanRoads Жыл бұрын
Dude, you seriously need to stop apologizing for the insecurity of those GoPro fanboys.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Hahaa! People get SO mad!🤣
@Grittyfifty
@Grittyfifty Жыл бұрын
David you did good review. I like when the reviewer give his real preference. Thats how the review should be done. Giving preference based on the camera. Other reviewer confuse more they dont tell there best camera opinion based on performance.
@RobertMacCready
@RobertMacCready Жыл бұрын
Agree, if you are a Newbee get the DJI but if you have GoPros, then I'd stick with them. Both cameras are great and I don't think you can go wrong with either one. It's a PHOTO FINISH in the camera race. Could be a dead heat.
@michalwiktorow2188
@michalwiktorow2188 Жыл бұрын
17:36 well I do see stabilisation differ, but not when you run, but ride a bicycle (up-down motion) - your hand makes easier for DJI to stabilise the picture. See DCRainmaker compare. GP is better in stabilisation - a lot better - DJI has 'glith' (blur) issue.
@WarrenLouw
@WarrenLouw Жыл бұрын
Great review! In my opinion, the GoPros image quality is superior, except in dark low light conditions. It was obvious as soon as the side by side comparisons came up. OA4 definitely outperforms GP12 in numerous other ways in terms of functionality. I almost bought the OA4 but decided to go with the GP12 and I don't regret it one bit since image quality is what I prioritize most of all. I'll deal with some of it's short comings as it's totally manageable for my needs. Thanks for the GP12 magnetic base recommendation! Will totally give it a try.
@SheedyVideo
@SheedyVideo 2 ай бұрын
The Gopro12 really has better image quality vs Action 4 and even vs the new 5 pro and in low light try in HDR it makes a big difference
@paddlermike
@paddlermike Жыл бұрын
Great vid and swaying me towards the dji for my next camera. Quick question re the magnetic mount, how strong is it to resist waves hitting it? Ie mount attached to a surfboard or kayak, will the camera stay clicked in? Also, is there anywhere to attach a leash to the camera as I don't want to lose it if the mount detaches ( on old go pro I have a section of thin dynema cord tied around the thumb screw) Thanks in advance
@siemore
@siemore Жыл бұрын
I was so close to getting the Hero 12 because I just like the diversity of modes and image quality a little more. I was able to see past the slightly bigger body and annoying mounting system and maybe lack even of front touch screen. But holy cannoli, 110 minutes charging time for the GoPro vs. 18 for the Action? Forget the GoPro, these charging times are anything but “pro” 😂 The action cam has always been there for me when I forgot to prepare any heavy camera setup and charging it with a 65w power bank in no time wins over the GoPro in every way.
@amberstevens9041
@amberstevens9041 Жыл бұрын
When you say quick switch button "the power button on the side of go pro" does the same thing, unless I'm misunderstanding. Been a gopro user since gopro 5 gotta have em all. But since the lack of changes between 11 and 12 I'm thinking of trying something new.
@briansteph
@briansteph Жыл бұрын
Thanks David, this is a great comparison! Looking forward to your low light video...the poor low light performance on the GoPros has been a drawback for us, and I've been looking for an alternative solution that can perform slightly better there.
@povdad
@povdad Жыл бұрын
I too switched from GoPro (had H9-H11) to OA4 and have not looked back. The quick switch to your custom presets, it starts up faster, buttons are more responsive, vertical and horizontal magnetic mounts, the included case, it works in the cold better, doesn’t warm up or overheat, it’s faster to load the videos and transfers faster, easier UI to get around, touch screen is more responsive, front touch screen, standard dewarp FOV without cropping (vs Linear in GoPro), longer run time, faster charging, better in low light, doesn’t freeze up. I can go on and on.
@stefpix
@stefpix Жыл бұрын
Both can produce great content. One advantage of the GoPro is the higher resolution stills, that can be useful when diving. Burst mode, 5 framers of raw photos in one second. Also 5.3K footage allows getting high res still frames to be extracted as JPGs. With the Action 4 that is not possible. But I do not see really many advantages of the Hero 12 over the Hero 11 or 10. Same image quality. The GPS is nice to have occasionally to geotag spots or look at distances at home. But the quick switch button, depth rating, battery life, low light quality of the Action 4 are appealing. The Action 4 fov is too wide for general use. It makes the foreground, like a road, huge and the background scenery way too small. Even in linear mode. I have the Action 2. But that can be ok underwater where the fov is reduced.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Very interesting points! I just took the Action 4 diving in Hawaii and had it mounted on a dive mask mount. While at 60 ft swimming past a WWII wreck, I was able to reach up, pop off the camera, use the QS button to switch to photo mode and snap a selfie. Then reach back up, remount the camera without looking and keep going on the dive. That sold me on it as my main dive camera! Also, the extra depth without a dive case was helpful👍
@stefpix
@stefpix Жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog that is cool to remove the camera so easily. But once i had the Action 2 on a floaty stick around my neck, I accidentally knocked it and it flew off he mount. I was on the beach. There was some sand in the hinges of the magnetic mount. So that needs to be inspected. But with the Hero 10 in June I came face to face with a sandtiger shark. I was shooting 5K. The shark made a U turn. I could extract high res frames, one of which was printed full page width on the New York Post newspaper in NYC, in August, when there was a lot of articles about shark presence in the area. Had I been shooting with the DJI Action , the 4K video footage would not have produced such a nice still frame for print. But the Action 4 is better in low light, murky waters. But in the end resolution is more important than sone noise. I may get the A4 anyways, for the depth rating, although the battery door/seal feels so flimsy than the GoPro's. I wonder if the Hero 10/11/12 would still work and be water sesistant at 15m/50ft or so. If you are shooting some amazing experience, where you may want to print photos from the footage, 5K is the way to go. Printing that frame and some other footage in the newspaper paid off the GoPro.
@SethJ-2525
@SethJ-2525 Жыл бұрын
Love my action 4, can’t see myself going back to GoPro. The Action feels like a more polished professional camera, it doesn’t feel cheap and gimmicky.
@roninr8199
@roninr8199 Жыл бұрын
Can we connect tws ear phones with dji action 4?
@matthewborland9011
@matthewborland9011 Жыл бұрын
I scuba dive and I like to take stills but starting to get into video. I know everyone says action cameras are really just for video but I have seen some good stills using the GoPro. But after seeing this video I might be getting the dji 4. Any thought.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Man, I need to make a video about my recent scuba dive experience with the DJI Action 4 in Maui! I had it mounted to the magnetic mount on an OctoMask to get a POV shot during the dive, but because of the magnetic mounts, I was able to get to the bottom, reach up and pull the camera off my mask, shoot a bunch of selfies, then remount it to the mask super easy! It was incredible!
@NetoBueno98
@NetoBueno98 Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, I'm literally that guy you described. I want to buy my first action camera and with this video I'll probably go with DJI
@peterbras8809
@peterbras8809 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the vertical horizontal feature by gopro just software? Would be recommended for dji implementing it as well
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Personally, I would just prefer turn my camera vertically. After using both for awhile, turning my camera seems to be an easier and more intuitive option
@PlanetDoug
@PlanetDoug Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy David's videos, and he makes a lot of good points about the Action 4. However, I find that as an overall comparison between the DJI Action 4 and the GoPro Hero 12, this video leaves out a lot of information. So, for anyone trying to decide between the two cameras, I thought I'd pull together a few of my thoughts here and maybe fill in the gaps: I feel that if you're going to make such a big deal out of the magnetic quick release mount on the Action 4, you should at least compare it with the GoPro's quick release system - the buckle mount - not to the fixed flip-out feet and thumbscrew mount. This video completely ignores the fact that GoPros come with both - a fixed mount AND a quick release mount. And in a direct comparison between the Action's quick release system and the GoPro's quick release system, who knows which one a consumer would prefer? It depends on the person, but a useful video comparison of the two cameras would at least mention that GoPro DOES have a quick release system. And, to be honest, it could be superior. For example, it should be noted that the Action magnetic mount system still has a regular thumbscrew mount under it. The thumbscrew isn't gone. It's still there. In fact, you are forced to mount the magnetic mounting base on top of the regular GoPro feet and thumbscrew mount. And that raises the camera up much higher and makes it significantly taller and a bit more clunky and awkward in many situations. It also means that you can never NOT use the magnetic mount and thumbscrew together. You're forced to use both in every situation. There's no option NOT to use it. The GoPro buckle quick release system has a very different design, and it keeps the camera lower resulting in a much more streamlined and compact profile. It's also more separate from the GoPro feet and thumbscrew system. You can choose whether you want to use the quick release buckle system or the fixed mount system. With the DJI Action approach, you have no choice. You must use the magnetic quick release in every situation. And it should be noted that the GoPro quick release buckle system is built directly into a wide array of mounts and accessories. Using it, you can quickly move the GoPro from the 3-Way 2.0 grip to the the floaty Handler grip to the Chesty harness to the Handlebar mount to the Head Strap to the Bite mount to the Suction Cup mount to the Jaws grip to the Adhesive mounts to the Gumby Flexible mount to the Magnetic Swivel mount and more. With all these mounts and grips, you never have to loosen or tighten or remove a thumb screw. The quick release buckle just slides out when you push in the two levers on the side. The quick release buckle mount is also extremely solid and reliable and inspires confidence when you lock it into place. It isn't finicky like magnetic systems where you could accidentally click in the tiny lever on only one side and not the other. For a lot of consumers, the Action magnetic quick release mount could be preferable. But a valid comparison should at least compare it to the actual GoPro quick release system, not to the fixed system of the flip-out feet and thumbscrew. Plus, if you absolutely love the idea of magnetic quick release systems, you can always buy one for the GoPro from Ulanzi or SmallRig or SnapMount. The magnetic quick release mount of the Action system appears to be well designed, but its mere existence does not automatically make the camera better than a GoPro. It's just a mounting system, and GoPro has its own quick release mounting system, which David never mentions. I had a similar feeling about the Quick Switch button on the Action. It's a great feature, and I do wish that GoPro would adopt it. However, David's comparison with the GoPro leaves out a lot of information. In a more accurate comparison, you'd have to at least mention that on the GoPro, the Power button doubles as a Mode switch button. In effect, it serves as a quick switch button, and it switches the camera from video mode to photo mode to timelapse/timewarp mode. It doesn't allow you to switch between custom presets, but it is very useful all the same. I use it all the time, and it's very convenient. Plus, you CAN switch custom presets within each mode by pressing a combination of the record button and the power button. This opens up your custom presets menu on the front screen of the GoPro. Then you can cycle through them and choose the one you want. It's not a great system but it works. A valid comparison would also have to mention that GoPros have a set of powerful Shortcut buttons right on the screen. These can be used to change a wide variety of settings quickly without going into the menu system at all. As far as I'm aware, the Action series doesn't have anything like these on-screen shortcut buttons. In his video, David makes it seem like the only way to change settings on the GoPro is to go into the menu system and work with presets. And that is far from true. Once you combine the GoPro Custom Presets, the Power/Mode combo button, and the four on-screen Shortcut buttons, you have a powerful and efficient way of changing the settings. It's true that the Quick Switch button on the Action is useful, and I've always wanted GoPro to add such a button to their cameras. But in this video, David just points out what the Action has and the GoPro lacks without talking about what the GoPro has and the Action lacks, such as the super-convenient Shortcut buttons. David also compared the DJI Wireless mic to the new bluetooth earbud system on the GoPro. He has an entire section comparing the sound of one to the sound of the other. And that's kind of silly. The DJI Wireless mic is not part of the Action cameras. It's a wireless mic set that you have to buy separately. If you like it, you can buy it and attach it to a GoPro, too (with an adapter). In fact, there are dozens of excellent wireless mics on the market now, and they can all be attached to both the GoPro and the Action. So, comparing this wireless mic to the new bluetooth system of the GoPro is a bit odd. They're completely different tools meant for different situations. In any event, David also skips by what strikes me as the somewhat clunky, bulky, and unstable way that the DJI Wireless Mic attaches to the Action. You can see it clearly in the video. It's great that you can attach it directly through the USB-C port without an adapter, but it ends up sticking out from the side of the camera in a weird and awkward way. It looks very unstable, and I dislike the idea of the full weight of a wireless receiver pulling on and dangling off a USB-C port. I've heard from people that it shakes loose if you try to use it on a bicycle mount or scooter mount or anything like that. I far prefer mounting something like a Rode Wireless Go with a solid cold shoe clip. With that approach, you don't have a heavy receiver held in place only by sticking it into the USB-C port. And if you are serious about comparing these two cameras, the GoPro's Media Mod deserves at least a mention. Setting aside the design flaws of the Media Mod, it does offer a lot of features, including a 3.5mm input jack, a USB-C port, an HDMI port, a built-in higher quality shotgun microphone with an optional windscreen, and the ability to mount an external microphone, a light, or an LCD screen. It's definitely a flawed product, but it exists and it works, and nothing like this is available for the Action 4 that I'm aware of. The front touch screen is a clear win for the DJI Action 4. I was fully expecting GoPro to add touch screen capability to the front screen of the Hero 12, and I was disappointed that they didn't. However, in David's example of mounting the camera inside a car and needing to change settings, he does ignore the existence of the GoPro Quik App. Anyone who routinely mounts their GoPro on a car's windscreen or other inaccessible places would likely use their smartphone app to control it. At least they have that option. Failing that, they could, as I mentioned above, just stick the GoPro into a magnetic mount like the SnapMount. That's a product that David routinely plugs on his channel as the best mounting option for GoPros, but he never mentions it in these comparison videos. He focuses only on the magnetic mount of the Action 4. Battery life appears to be another clear win for the Action 4. I can't argue with that. 😀 I'd love to get much longer battery life on a GoPro. Anyway, those are all the thoughts that pop into my mind right now. My sense is that David's video doesn't accurately portray the differences between the two cameras and camera systems. He's comparing unequal features and leaves out most of the comparable features on the GoPro side. I feel it gives quite a distorted view of how the two cameras stack up against each other. In the end, I think you can get used to any mounting system or menu system or control button setup. Those are just details. The key thing at the end is how the final video looks, and I guess that is a personal preference. Whenever David does these blind side-by-side comparisons, I know which is which instantly. The GoPro video looks quite different from the Action video, and it's the video look that I prefer. It just always seem brighter with more detail and better dynamic range. The Action 4 video looks great, too. I would be perfectly happy owning and using one. But given a simple choice, I'd still go for the GoPro look.
@tbone-ip5fi
@tbone-ip5fi Жыл бұрын
I bet this is way too long for most people to bother reading. You wrote an essay!
@GrmlMaster
@GrmlMaster Жыл бұрын
@@tbone-ip5fi Not only is it ridiculously long, it also has astonishingly minimal real content. He is just not happy with the conclusion of the video. Most of the points he complains are not mentioned in the video, like alternative mounting solution or presets are in fact mentioned in the video. So are the Apps and their abilities. He is just ignoring that 3rd party accessories are not the focus of this comparison and that a special hardware-button to access video presets is quite a big difference to having to access those through menues.
@andreybear
@andreybear Жыл бұрын
Usefull! Thanks!)
@tomburrows9948
@tomburrows9948 Жыл бұрын
I have to choose one of them this week. I found Dave's video to be excellent but Planet Video's comments were also quite helpful. For me, image quality is paramount and the GP seemed better in the few examples provided. I like my DJI Mavic 3 Pro but don't like not having reasonable alternatives, and so am inclined to support the GP action camera alternative. It's very hard to integrate M3P footage with my Canon full frame mirorless gear using the Mavic's better 24mm lens/sensor combination, and near impossible with its other 2 lenses, so I need to at least start with the best action cam footage available, and so far that seems to be the GP, despite its slightly smaller sensor.
@MrZACATECANO100
@MrZACATECANO100 Жыл бұрын
I bought my first action camera which is a hero 5 that I purchased when it released . Now time to upgrade. Just don’t know if to stick with GoPro since I have multiple mounts or just switch to Dji. Any recommendations? I will give my son my hero5 black. I record in daylight to trips not to much of night recording.
@Dmitriy.0
@Dmitriy.0 Жыл бұрын
I liked the footage from Camera B, but only because it looked slightly more saturated so that I wouldn't have to mess with anything in post. Overall, it looks like I'll be keeping my Hero 10 for another year. I feel that neither camera has any features that I need which would be worth $400 for an upgrade.
@sunlit777
@sunlit777 Жыл бұрын
strange how people judge color - to my eye gopro is more saturated, more warm and whats most important - it exposes faces more correctly, bringing out skin details unlike DJI that is happy to leave the face of the main talent in murky greyish shade
@JuanCarlos-vk6cb
@JuanCarlos-vk6cb Жыл бұрын
​@@sunlit777fax go pro color looks better
@1lovelucas
@1lovelucas Жыл бұрын
​@@sunlit777 not only does the gopro run warmer, the A4 always runs cool. Too cool, you can't tell much in this video, but other comparison vids show an unsightly blueish tint. The 4k on the gopro shows finer details in the daytime. Dji is a legit competition, although I give Gopro a slight edge
@Jonasegway
@Jonasegway Жыл бұрын
Funny you mention the Hero 10. I've been recording with it recently doing some low light test and it's doing better then all other GOPRO's but falls behind the Action 4. I am really surprised at how good the Hero 10 is in low light (for an action camera). My list from best to worse in lowlight has been in this order.... - insta360 One RS 1" - Action 4 - Hero 10 - Hero 11 - Action 3 - Hero 8 - Hero 9 All running the exact same settings (being all GOPRO's except the Hero 11) have the same sensor size and obviously the Action 4 despite being set to the same settings as the hero cams could be even brighter if I adjust the settings for the sensor size. But yea my Hero 10 seems to be worth its weight if you absolutely have to have a GoPro without wanting to cough up the amount of $$ for the new Hero 12.
@MRMRS2wheeler
@MRMRS2wheeler Жыл бұрын
I have been a gopro fan since the Hero HD (look it up,lol), but this year I can safely say I'M DONE! I run at least 3 at a time on my motorcycle and helmet, and the reliability factor is horrible. I am losing way too many clips. It seems like gopro is just falling behind everyone else. The cameras are no longer reliable, with the freezing, and overheating, lost connections to the remote, etc. etc. I will still say, their image qualty is the best out there, but what good is that if the camera fails. I will be making the switch to the action 4, and hopefully I won't be disappointed. If only they had 5.7k it would be a no brainer. I am glad to see the release of the remote and hope it works more reliably then gopros. Thanks for another killer comparison video David, you helped me make the leap, key points for me were the magnetic mount, the battery life and no overheating. Stay safe everyone.
@SPORTINGFEMALELEGENDS2
@SPORTINGFEMALELEGENDS2 Жыл бұрын
For me, the image quality looks much better on the GP12 - Colour, sharpness, brightness, contrast, warmth. And the default audio is slightly better also.
@JudasBytes
@JudasBytes 11 ай бұрын
I've been using DJI OA3 as my dash cam in PHX all year round. It never overheats during summer when PHX hits 110F from April to August
@brokeforever
@brokeforever Жыл бұрын
Fast charging and longer run times and reliability puts DJI way above Gopro
@christiandominguez4279
@christiandominguez4279 Жыл бұрын
Love my action 4 super durable after whipping out mountain biking! But only issue is that DJI MIMO app is awful on IOS you have to turn of celular in your settings just to see anything on the SD card.
@OzzySafa
@OzzySafa Жыл бұрын
The Dji features are cool it does seem more convenient but I prefer the look of the GoPro over the Action 4 and even the insta 360 action cameras. GoPro just has that higher quality look and I’m loving the new HDR look it gives out.
@RoadReality
@RoadReality Жыл бұрын
I bought the Hero 12. I already have an 8,9,10, and Max. I skipped the 11 because I didn't see enough worth upgrading for. As for the Action 4... I watched your videos on it, and there's too many things that I'd have to compromise to use it [I use The Remote all the time!], so that was a pass for me. As for The Remote and the Hero 12: Have you used them together? My The Remote will power up the Hero 12, but once the 12 is powered up, it disconnects from the remote. My workaround is to leave all my GoPros constantly running, but that means I go through 3 or 4 sets of batteries in a day... instead of 1 or 2. Have you had this issue?
@gavinhung6516
@gavinhung6516 Жыл бұрын
i think the goPro footage looks better dispite having a smaller sensor ~ the color and dynamic range just feel better than dji.
@vincentl3846
@vincentl3846 Жыл бұрын
too much saturated !
@matthewgarfinkle876
@matthewgarfinkle876 9 ай бұрын
I just bought the Action 4 because of your vid, thank you! I just came back to ask about how you got the Mimo app...?
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog 9 ай бұрын
Just the DJI Mimo app in the app store👍
@jaimegarcia3760
@jaimegarcia3760 Жыл бұрын
Both cameras are awesome although I lean towards GoPro color science and detail. In the other hand, dji offers the whole pack with some useful features like mount system, battery life and so on. One thing I can’t stop watching on every KZbin review is that the dji dewarp system is not perfect. In order to dewarp the corners it will dewarp the center of the image. Take a look on the first part of the video. You look so thinner (in a weird way) than the GoPro. When recording landscapes and so on is not noticiable but when vlogging it looks weird side by side.
@melvinc.caling8638
@melvinc.caling8638 Жыл бұрын
Could you show how Action 4's magnetic mount withstand in differrent scenarios.
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can do a brutal test with it! Love that idea!
@LenShigemoto
@LenShigemoto Жыл бұрын
I'd go with the GoPro, it's dynamic range looks better/more details in the shadows and highlights.
@messil04
@messil04 8 ай бұрын
Seen slot of these comparisons. And the one thing I still want to know is. How strong is the magnetic mount? I see that it is clever and easy for switching. But I am afraid it will get easily snatched by someone, leaving me only with the handle/stick. Any thoughts on that?
@DavidManningvlog
@DavidManningvlog 8 ай бұрын
You might be talking about PureVideo Mode, but that's only on the Ace Pro, not the X4. The low light is better on the X4 if you drop down to 5.7K 30fps, but other than that, there isn't a specific mode for low light
@kristofsportingdogs3549
@kristofsportingdogs3549 Жыл бұрын
i will stick with my action 3 for now. The upgrade to the 4 looks to me, to be just very minimal. The only bummer for me is that the remote doesn't work withe the 3. And I think this is a deliberate decision from DJI. Because I don't see any other reason why it won't work with the 3
@Raptorman0909
@Raptorman0909 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Action 2 form factor but it's several years old and had over heating problems so I don't have one. I do wonder if the Action 2 form factor has been discontinued by DJI or if there is a new version in the works. Given the advances in technology, particularly the processing needed for high resolution and frame rates, a new version of the Action 2 style camera should not suffer the thermal issues that the current Action 2 has.
@Rachellll.
@Rachellll. Жыл бұрын
The Action 4 definitely provides more capability for the content creation! Especially the magnetic mounting - which I really like it. It seems that Gopro just simply update their product with a firmware upgrade. GoPro needs to get something new, otherwise they would be kicked out of this game soon.
@MotoCocoTV
@MotoCocoTV Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge Go Pro fan! The brightness (SHUTTER SPEED) in the camera A go pro I prefer and the over all picture quality is hands down Go Pro...However As I embark on a year long solo female motorcycle ride across Australia, I don't want to deal with go pros historically bad over heating or just random shut offs. The battery life and magnetic ease of use wins for me....QUESTION...is there a way to adjust the (light) into the osmo 4? Also I will be investing into the wireless mic set up for my helmet and also the new mini cameras as well.. cheers great video
@ariescorner7655
@ariescorner7655 Жыл бұрын
I don't like how dark the footage looks on the DJI camera despite having a bigger sensor. Also, the full frame sensor on the GP12 is just a banger for portrait/landscape editing. GoPro does have a lot of work to do in terms of convenience for their customers but the image quality is still superior imo.
@azertyjb123456789
@azertyjb123456789 7 ай бұрын
What about the editing part? As far as i know GoPro offers for an ok price cloud storage and most importantly auto editing!! Does dji offers also an automatic editing solution?
@SurajMangat
@SurajMangat Жыл бұрын
I liked the gopro hero 12. Personally liked the color gradient and no dark areas and better brightness of videos from hero 12.
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