Insta360 Ace Pro vs. GoPro Hero 12 vs. DJI Action 4 - THE NEW KING???

[@insta360]

What a solid comparison...we're happy for Ace Pro to take the crown 👑Thanks for testing it out!

[@mokisan]

I was going to buy this, but what did your engineering team smoke to not give it a removable lens? Not having a removable lens for your camera is like your wheels being permanently fixed to the car

[@whatiship89]

@@mokisan I got their care service, can send it back anyway

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@mokisan Looks like Insta360 never bought the Hero 8 and regretted it 😂

[@rideordie5377]

I guess you realized it’s not that waterproof with removable lens, it’s so bad since it will a deal breaker for many people including me. But anyways, great job and I’m happy that you pushed it that far.

[@PhillipSkraba]

@@rideordie5377 the Ace Pro has a removable lens though, you know that right?

[@Dimmsy]

Gopro will disappear in a few year if they don't listen to their customers.

[@OutdoorsMT]

Agreed

[@LexEvans90]

its ok... they have 20mil followers on Instagram think they are still Kings... 😂

[@clockdva20]

They would have more if they delt with the issues they have had for a decade or so. Like over heating and freezing and long charging times. Most of the Insta pro v Gopro videos keep pulling Gopro up on those problems .

[@AeroSixWJ]

@@clockdva20 Exactly! GoPros deliberately pissed me off several times.

[@DETROIT_CANNABIS]

Gopro is selling 6 million cameras every 90 days, hardly a new king based off sales alone

[@ManPlusRiver]

Great intro! Next I’d LOVE a video testing freezing/overheating, and battery life 🙏

[@bigcat445]

waiting for this review next😊

[@MrXstation]

You right, Gopro is out of my back because it's overheat all the time.

[@_Dibbler_]

@@MrXstation Indeed. I mean, there is a lot now thats a reason to buy another brand than GoPro, but the crashes make me switch from my GoPro 8 to another camera. Its so freaking annoying to loose footage all the time

[@andreyferrii]

Same! I bought two and returned both because it overheats. Now I'm looking for an alternative. @@MrXstation

[@the_naP]

This would be interesting to me as well - I currently use a gopro with a small fan behind it to keep it cool while filming hours-long baseball games. Sometimes in some pretty intense heat - like Arizona in July. With the small fan - it's a USB powered thing that's super quiet - the GoPro is able to keep going, most of the time. I also take the battery out of the GoPro and run it on USB power. The GoPro sucks bad at night games. They end up super grainy and dark even when the field is well lit. That alone makes me want to give this Ace Pro a shot, but at $450, I need to know that it can record for multiple hours straight off of USB power, and not overheat. Otherwise, I'll live with the GoPro issues, for now.

[@Seba11PL]

Got Action 4 since 3 weeks. This cam is game changer! Previous I've got gp10 and I see huge differences. Magnetic mout, better battery, low light footage you can't even compare!

[@juniorjunior9118]

I actually choosing between action 4 over action 3, but I've research more about the feature and I do found out that it's not really change a lot. So, I choose the action 3 over 4 it's because of the same features, just only one features they improve in action 4 that's not a big deal for me. Also, Action 3 is less in price than Action 4 and I've got the adventure combo plus a free memory card and a waterproof casing.

[@robertorebe7246]

Agreed. Action 4 weighs less than Gopro 12. This Insta doesn't even have 10 bit, Action Camera for kids who want to make videos with AI.

[@Seba11PL]

@@juniorjunior9118 Action 4 has new larger 1" sensor

[@vincentl3846]

for sure, but curiously the dynamic is far better on the insta Ace Pro without 10 bits.....

[@dssf0]

But it looks cloudy,

[@foolofaguyinlove]

Am I the only one who feels like this was a paid ad/sponsorship by Insta360? I can’t be, can I? Just the way that none of the exclusive, standout features/merits, of the other cameras, were highlighted in nearly the same fashion and it just seemed like one-way traffic the entire time; not to mention all the cringey moments when needlessly trying to be “cute”, what with the thing popped in-between the mouth as a makeshift mount that no one asked for - I mean, that was just a little TOO on the nose for my liking/tastes. Just me…? Not being a hater; just objectively critical, is all. Felt that it was important to draw that distinction.

[@CarbonRP]

One thing I like about the Action 4 is it's size and weight. It's absolutely tiny in comparison to the other two and weighs a lot less. Even with the protective case attached which comes as standard in the box, it's the same size and weight as Hero 12 stock. Also the option to attach any mic using the type-c port is a game changer as you don't have to purchase media mod or mic mod separately, and also saves on space taken by them.

[@eclecticaro]

Can you not attach usb-c mic to Acr Pro?

[@MikeSkeenRacing]

@@eclecticaro Ace Pro requires mic mod, but it's pretty small and cheap

[@BassManStrikes]

Ace pro mic adapter is better as ot has power pass thru and is super small.

[@mehmetozdogan35]

I love using Action 4 but… The usb audio adapter required for Action4 is extremely expensive and almost equivalent to the GoPro Media Mod!!!

[@isportugal4k]

I also prefer the daytime videos from action 4 over the other two

[@WayneRECs]

Does the Ace Pro accept USB audio devices or does it only accept external mics via the AcePro mic adapter? I'm a big fan of how DJI is now handling external audio and mics via USB-C and think the audio recorded in the Action 4 is great. But it always feels like external audio is an after thought for Insta360 (seeing as the GO cameras don't even have that capability and the OneX cameras' audio always sounds iffy...). Thanks!

[@JBOutside1]

Got all those and the Ace Pro looks like a clear jump and looks like I'll be letting some others go. Nice job David!

[@GlensHangar]

0:48 - GoPro No Magnetic Mount... YES. That is a selling feature to me! So You're flying along at 7,000+ feet at 130 mph experiencing medium turbulence; the camera that is positively mounted to my wing will min over a magnetic mount every day.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Check this video so that you can see it's not actually a magnetic mount > kzbin.info/www/bejne/oH3IeWeoZZWGl5Ysi=R0SNMkikpm5p_iDy

[@DejanSmaic]

I have all the GoPros except GP8. I use mine for action sports, specifically whitewater kayaking. My concern is the mounting of the Ace Pro. Yes, magnetic with little hooks. But, when you are in a serious hydraulic upside down, the screw mounts are more secure with a tether. How do you tether a Ace Pro? The hooks seem weak. I've had my GoPros sheared off my helmet but saved by my tether. Ace Pro? I'm like ready to purchase my 11th action camera but concerned I'll lose a $400 camera.

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

For clarity zoom, you're not at 4K zooming in and remaining at 4K, you're at 8K zooming into 4K. It uses pixel binning to reduce the resolution to 4K at 1X zoom. The fact that this camera is even capable of 8K is worth calling out unto itself.

[@DavidManningvlog]

The Ace Pro and Action 4 are both using the exact same sensor. Same manufacturer, literally the same sensor. And you're right that technically they're both 8K sensors that are pixel binning. The Ace Pro is allowing you, when punching in via clarity zoom, to not pixel bin and use the full 8K sensor. So not sure if DJI will be able to add this as a feature as well. It'll depend on the power of the processor in the Action 4

[@EverythingIsPhotogenic]

@@DavidManningvlog I do not believe these are the same sensors. The effective pixel count is different and DJI's sensor has greater bit depth. I am nearly positive the DJI sensor is not capable of 8K even if the processor could handle the readout (with their heat dissipation technology and reasonable processor, if the sensor could read 8K, it's likely the Action could process it, especially at 24 FPS). The Ace Pro sensor is boasted as the industry's first sensor capable of 8K 24 FPS. They specifically call out the sensor, not the camera. I don't assume all marketing "hype" is honest, but it certainly would open up Insta360 to litigation if that was an inaccurate claim. The patent drawings do not indicate the sensor models, but I would be very surprised if these were the same

[@BIIIKES]

David, it shoots in 8k, and outputs in 4k via pixel binning. This is why the zoomed in shot is still in 4k. It removes the binning and outputs the native 4k resolution.

[@TaylorPassofaro]

Exactly. It's still digital zoom. There are only two types of zoom, digital and optical. If you don't see lens elements moving, it's digital. Not all digital zooms are created equal, but there's nothing special going on here.

[@BikeRidez]

Sound!! How is the sound quality? I’ve watched 4 review vids so far and no one is talking about sound. How it in high wind? Will you still need a wind shield? Does it have wireless mic connect like DJI? What’s the battery life compared to DJI? Why is field of view much less than DJI)

[@DavidManningvlog]

Solid questions! I'll get them all answered in the follow up👍

[@max_chno]

Not real comparison when one of the brand is sponsoring the video lmao

[@DavidManningvlog]

Feel free to point out any inaccuracies in the review👍

[@alpho2010]

After about fifteen years of using GoPro cameras I switched over to the Action 4 when it was released, I have two action 4's that I use for ebiking. They have been trouble free and awesome little cameras. I have ordered the 360 AcePro because it appears that it is going to be a better camera and the AI has some advantages over the Action 4. I'm not very please that all my Action 4 accessories can't be used on the AcePro but I'll get over that. What amazes me is that people are still buying GoPro's as their technology and ease of use have fallen so far behind the the Action 4 and the Ace Pro.

[@2006mumu]

So after using action 4 and insta360, which one do you prefer ?

[@AthifKhan]

Which one do you prefer now? The Ace pro or the Action 4?

[@kayakexcursions5570]

I agree, gopro sucks.

[@STACYBURK]

Since you have both the Osmo Pocket 3 and the Insta360 Ace Pro... which do you prefer and which do you think has the better video quality in outdoor light for traveling?

[@MTBSKiDesigns]

Thank you and great to see the features of the Insta360 Ace Pro and I would like to see a true comparison with the GoPro Hero 12 & DJI Osmo Action 4 cameras when you have a chance. One thing that wasn't mentioned was the GoPro 11 8:7 sensor. This sensor will allow for better cropping for all 3 video platforms: KZbin 16:9, Instagram 4:3 and TikTok 9:16 aspect ratios. I think the DJI and Insta360 are only good for 16:9 videos, so depending on what platform you are going to upload your videos there is are choices for the best cameras. Also, there is a trade-off with the 8:7 GoPro aspect ratio and that is low-light sensitivity, so if you record in low light then the DJI or Inta360 will be better. I usually shoot in daytime for mountain biking and skiing so i bought the GoPro Hero 11 for being able to adjust the aspect ratio upon export. One last thing about the 8:7 GoPro sensor is that if you have shot in 16:9 and either had the camera pointed to low or too high missing the correct POV, the 8:7 captures more vertically. So you can adjust the export either up or down to compensate for an imperfect camera recording position.

[@LittleWhole]

There is a multi-aspect ratio feature for the Insta360 Ace Pro that allows you to select any aspect ratio in post with the Insta360 editing software. It seems to work pretty well.

[@ohHeyKev]

Good comparison, the low-light performance was the biggest deciding factor for me as I wanted to use it to capture videos off my motorcycle rides. Seeing the Ace Pro blow the GoPro out the water sold it for me. Action 4's low-light performance is definitely up there with the Ace Pro but the Ace Pro still has the slight advantage, which is what I need. That and the flip up screen is an actual game changer. I use it on my rides when I have the camera facing me and it helps make sure I am in the shot.

[@GlensHangar]

3:49 Nah The Ace Pro's image lacks detail, which is compensated with fake Ai software sharpening. Hero 12 has a better picture there, so does the Action 4.

[@JustinDoesTriathlon]

I was almost LOLing at that point in the video with the example footage vs the voice over. Ace Pro is clearly, obviously the worst.

[@2lbsTrigrPull]

Yep, Action 4 all the way.

[@Amd107]

Looks more like a paid review rather than an unbiased review

[@brianb6603]

Excellent as usual!!! the Insta360 Ace Pro does seem like the logical choice, especially if you are not invested in one of the other systems...

[@GarethZoeWildcamps]

How easy is it to change the lens David? I noticed you edited a cut just about every time you connected the camera back onto it's mount, but not so on the DJI. Problems getting it to seat correctly?

[@MGriffin2501]

Obviously, the Ace Pro looks great on paper. All three cameras look similar in the side by side comparison. The true test will be its performance over time. With all the software features included, I’m eager to see how stable it is long term.

[@majasako]

Let the early adopters learn the mistakes, nowadays you don't want to be a beta tester for the full price. The Ace Pro seems to have quite blurry lens on the edges, so there goes the good lens by Leica -theory mentioned by David. 😄

[@FromShetoMe]

I've been holding off on an upgrade hoping something like this would come along.

[@jeffsmithfpv]

Dude same

[@Crazypostman]

Currently Pocket 3 is my main, DJI action 3 is my main action camera. The insta360 looks good but I don't think it's enough for me to upgrade my action camera yet, the action 4 still holds up pretty good. I do have a question for the follow-up video the insta looks like it was zoomed in more. Could you compare the wide angleness compared to the others?

[@TheTranquilWalker]

I noticed the zoom too. Maybe an unfair advantage.

[@WilsonxDoomable]

when you say pocket 3 is your main do you use it for an action camera or only for regular use?

[@Crazypostman]

@@WilsonxDoomable I don't use the pocket 3 for action camera shots, just regular video, and vlog type.

[@NewDayOutdoors]

Do we have to use the Insta360 app like we do their 360 cams? If so that is a deal breaker. While I love their 360 cams, the extra workflow steps is too much of a pain in the butt for an action cam when then dumping into say Davinci Resolve for a multi cam edit.

[@HellbellyUK]

I don't think so, maybe in "Free Frame" mode (like the Go3), but in normal video modes I think you just pull the files off the card.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Only if you're shooting in FreeFrame Mode. All other modes are recording a finished file👍

[@canyonblue737-8]

Thanks! Ok so obvious questions that standout here: 1) Is there LOG recording? Different color options for normal recording? 2) How does stabilization compare to the others? It’s in camera like the competition right? How is stabilization in low light vs the others? 3) What about time lapses, hyperlapses etc.? Are they in camera like the competition? I ask because on GO 3 they require post processing in Insta360 smartphone software? 4) The magnetic mount is cross compatible with the GO 3 correct? 5) I’d love when you do a more through head to head you speak to the specific negatives of anything in the Ace Pro that doesn’t match the competition? 6) What are the capabilities of the front screen? It appears text only settings right? 7) Does the Ace Pro lineup have action accessories… cages, waterproof dive housing, etc.? 8) is Insta360 positioning this to replace the One RS in their lineup? Thanks.

[@canyonblue737-8]

And also… 9) does it overheat and how does it overheat compared to the competition? 10) what’s the battery life?

[@canyonblue737-8]

11) horizon lock options? 12) how is audio?

[@canyonblue737-8]

13) 10 but recording?

[@canyonblue737-8]

14) I’m seeing information online saying KZbin reviewers like yourself who got the camera early have preproduction models with removable lens covers like Hero 12 and Action 4 but that production cameras have removed the feature and the lens cover is no longer replaceable if it gets scratched… true?

[@InTheVise]

I am still rocking the DJI Osmo action 1. Thinking of upgrade to the Osmo action 4.

[@FloridaGuideJosh]

My question is for someone who is in/around the water A LOT and diving to depths beyond 33 feet, is there a dive housing? I’m assuming that would render the flip up screen somewhat useless? And I would be concerned about the hinges with saltwater intrusion. Would love to get your thoughts on these points David! Thanks! 🤙🏼

[@AntBrownphoto]

Yeah they do a kit for diving has a housing and float

[@a-framesurfmedia]

You are hands down the BEST tech reviewer on KZbin! Thank you for your services Sr. Much appreciated.

[@ThydaCookingTV]

How about Ace pro battery? Does it last longer than GoPro?

[@DavidManningvlog]

All three have a super similar battery life, but the Ace Pro and Action 4 both go a bit longer than the GoPro

[@ThydaCookingTV]

@@DavidManningvlog Thank you! 🙏

[@nosakisting271]

I also want to see the Ace pro compared against the Pocket 3...not for action but as a small travel vlog camera, Especially some low light test between the two.

[@wingcreator]

Pocket 3 has 1" sensor which will beat Ace Pro's 1/1.3". It is probably the best vlog camera on the market but I wouldn't mount it on my Brompton bike as an action cam replacement.

[@teofilol2666]

Pocket 3 is a vlogging camera, while the Action and GoPro are "extreme" action cameras, this Acepro is kind of between these two categories.

[@bluefox4769]

Hello. Where can I get the tray or flat plate where you place the cameras in this video, because I am looking for something similar?

[@martinez4576]

where is the review of the regular ace camera🤔

[@IainAnderson]

Thanks - good comparisons. Just one thing, the Ace Pro doesn't have the same sensor as the DJI Action 4. They're the same physical size, but the Ace Pro has an 8K sensor (why clarity zoom works) and the DJI Action 4 sensor is 4K.

[@DavidManningvlog]

They actually have the EXACT same sensor. Same manufacturer and exactly the same sensor. The DJI and Ace Pro are doing pixel binning at 4K, meaning they're using four pixels as one to create the image. That takes the 8K sensor and gives you a 4K readout. The Ace Pro however, through the Clarity Zoom is doing 1x1 pixel readout, which is the full 8K sensor. So in theory, DJI could create that feature through a software update. But again, the exact same sensor from the same manufacturer👍

[@IainAnderson]

@@DavidManningvlog Thanks for the info - but that's really weird! Why use a large resolution sensor and then not allow customers to access it?

[@Fee.1]

@@IainAndersonalmost every smartphone does the same thing. You never noticed phone manufacturers claiming 48MP sensors for example but you only have 12MP photos ? Thats the same situation. They’re using pixel binning, which has its pros and cons, but very few actually have the ability to use the full sensor for a 1:1 full resolution shot. The pixel phones for example. 12MP photos from your 48MP sensor. No way around it. Not even with third party apps. I think Samsung has a clone phones with the option to use the full sensor though, but you lose out on some of the other features when you do that

[@melvinjohnson2074]

Thinking out loud but with all these superior 1" sensor cameras can GoPro afford to wait till next September to upgrade their sensor to 1"?

[@flamehel6737]

Any chance you could check the LRV files and let us know the resolution and frame rate? Most importantly, does the LRV frame rate match the frame rate of the main video file? On previous insta360 cameras the LRV files have a lower frame rate (14.98fps) which makes them useless for using as proxy files for editing. Gopro & DJI cameras use a matching frame rate for their LRV files, so they can be used as proxies for editing. To check the frame rate & resolution you just need to rename the LRV file from .lrv to .mp4 and then it will work like a normal video file. Thanks in advance!

[@BassManStrikes]

I want to know if it will run without the battery inserted via a USB power bank? and if it will run that way via the mic adapter?

[@jonathanellingwood8275]

Following I would like to know the same thing

[@JTube571]

Loving my Osmo Action 4 so not feeling the need to upgrade at the moment. But maybe in a year or two we'll reassess the situation and consider the Ace Pro.

[@joeshawcroft7121]

does Ace Pro allow pausing video with voice command? Or only with screen touch?

[@Ali_Clarkson]

So I have a DJI Osmo Action 4 which I love as my main vlogging camera but I've tried mountain biking with it and find the angle too tight unless I turn off most of the stabilisation which then makes the footage hard to watch. How wide is the Ace Pro? One thing I'd really like which I can't quite get from the DJI is the ability to get both vertical AND landscape from the same shot. I have an Insta360 X3 which I use on my chest as a second angle and I absolutely love this feature but sadly the image quality just isn't good enough, especially in low light which is often the case in the dense woods the trails are in. I'm torn between the Hero 12 with the Hero Mod and the Ace Pro, I have a Hero 11 and it doesn't do anything particularly special but at the same time it doesn't really do anything bad, it chugs along and I find it pretty reliable at getting usable MTB footage, I would like low light and vertical/horizontal abilities though, can the Ace Pro give me these and let me use the footage straight from the SD card or do I need to use the app to get these features? Thanks

[@elemento1991]

Did you end up giving the Ace pro a try? I’ve been filming with my GoPro 10 and it works good for the riding I’m doing. However magnetic mount would change my life, I can not stand getting it out of the mount to change the battery or film a different shot. Good audio is a necessity for me since I Vlog sometimes as well.

[@rougebonymedia]

Does the ace pro have Timecode?

[@andreamarcovaldi]

For sure a great product, but, as an Osmo action 4 owner, i still prefer it, first of all just beacuse the OA4 shoot Dlog-M at 10bit while the Ace pro flat profile is at 8bit (but i'm sure they will fix it in a future firmware update) personally i use this cameras just for what they meant to be: an ACTION cam! This is why I don't like the flip screen, for me it's another loose part that could break during the "action" and this is why I'm not worried about low light capabilities (and the OA4 already performs very well) The only thing I'm missing is the ability to connect to the apple watch to capture GPS data (and again I hope DJI fixes this with a future firmware update) Cheers from Roma Italy

[@EternalMedia]

No log, no 10-bit? No adventure combo. $449 for one battery and no charging case or selfie stick. Needs a mic adapter for external mic. With equivalent accessories, this Ace Pro is a $600-$650 kit.

[@thetrailfix]

The cancel and pause... wow. Just what that could do for work flow and organization alone is amazing. That said, for me, the biggest improvement of all action cams lately has been the Max lens mod - if GoPro will kinda "borrow" some of these ideas and the bigger sensor in their next iteration with a Max lens, that'll be the tops. Unfortunately, I had such horrific hardware and software experiences with Insta360 OneR (defective hardware returns that had to go to china, unusably glitchy software, bad customer service, expensive lens repairs) that I don't think I can buy another (although the old X was better). Unlike the Insta360, the GoPro just seems to work, which is kind of the point (even if the Insta360s have way cooler innovations on paper, it's frustrating when it never ever ever works when you want it to). If they've gotten better, I'd love to know because they are cool. My GoPro is a 10, so kind of on the older side.

[@AmericanRoads]

Previous Insta360 models have a 30-minute limit when recording at 4k60 and 90-minute limit when recording at 4k30. What about the Ace Pro?

[@bryanchalker]

While I enjoyed the breakdown of the Insta360 and thought the comparison vids were great, this video "comparison" seems...off. I know you didn't mention that it was sponsored or anything, but was Insta involved at all? This was 80% showcasing all the Insta360 features and highlights, but didn't actually compare with the other two on those scenarios. The Insta and DJI looks like clear winners over the latest GoPro, but I wish the comparison felt more unbiased.

[@DavidManningvlog]

The Ace Pro was just released when this video was made, so I had to cover all of the new features as they compare to the two cameras that were already out and I've done videos explaining all of their features before. Not biased towards any one camera, just explaining the new features👍

[@hannahassil]

Hey David, the last days i watched a lot comparison Videos on your account and i love them. I jsut have one question. When comparing the video"quality" the insta360 ace pro looks a little bit blurry compared to the other two and also at the other video where you showed the wide angle the other cameras seemed sharper. can you tell me anything about it =/? Kind regards!

[@DavidManningvlog]

Unfortunately there's a massive drop in quality with the KZbin algorithm and I think that's what you might be seeing. On my screen the video doesn't look blurry at all. It's the downside of videos like that on KZbin is they just get their butts kicked by the compression

[@hannahassil]

@@DavidManningvlog But ist just the insta360 stuff. But perhaps ist because of the closest focusing Limit of genießt 360, that YOU der sometimes too close :) thx for answering!

[@EdwardLo-h9w]

The flip screen will be a concern and buying this over gopro11 it’s just for lowlight scenario which I hardly use. Ai stuff is fun for a bit and then you stop using it. Can you try dropping the camera like the screen is open and see if it will break😅

[@StephenProffitt]

durability test on the screen is a must see!

[@lonerider68]

I use my actions cameras in cold weather, so I never get overheating... but I do get cold weather and general battery life issues. This (and the DJI Action 4) have longer battery life to begin with, and can recharge a battery in 20 mins (versus 2 hours). This also has a live view remote trigger (while GoPro lacked live preview while recording from like the Hero8-11, I think the 12 has it now finally). Personally, I've switch to 360 cameras as they ability to frame in post makes things a lot more convenience (even with the severe resolution drop). I've tried the DJI Pocket 3 and the video quality is great with 1-inch sensor and stabilization is great with gimbal, but for me it is still a hassle to have to track the subject while I'm flying down the mountain next to them.

[@EdwardLo-h9w]

@@lonerider68 nice to me I use GoPro for ski and snowboard as I know I will fall or drop my 360 for sure. I can trust my go pro womt break but 360 lens is too fragile and I don't buy extend warranty. Just different point of view I guess. I just use 360 for great photos with 3m poles.

[@lonerider68]

​@@EdwardLo-h9w ​ I agree that the lens on the 360 camera are noticeably exposed even with the lens guards you are taking a bigger risk. Personally, I've been using and breaking cameras for two decades now and I personally don't worry about damaging the lens on snow (compared to rocks). I haven't been uploading that many videos to KZbin recent versus private sharing with family and friend... but you can see what I used to did as a decent snowboards (and what I do now as a mediocre skiier) and I wouldn't have any qualms about using my Insta360 X2 basically anywhere on the mountain as I don't think snow will cause that much damage. Pavement and gravel are bigger risks imo (this summer I took a decent tumble in the dirt as a BMX park) and I've yet to crack the front lens of any GoPro (even my old Hero8 which doesn't have a replacement lens cover... although I ended up cracking the rear touchscreen on a different GoPro). Anyways, that's my personal experience obviously your situation and preferences will be different.

[@BGWordneemig]

Hi! For me big jump is that Insta360 ACE Pro from Hero Black 9 The question is whether the battery can be charged during video recording, but at least it can be maintained?

[@DavidManningvlog]

Yep, you can charge while recording👍

[@BGWordneemig]

@@DavidManningvlog Thank you the answer!

[@aManoftheMeeple]

If i had no action cameras, i would go with the Action 4. I have so much GoPro stuff, i keep holding out that every new model is finally going to be the one that GoPro back on top, but they keep missing, and its starting to annoy me. Im actually starting to consider selling all of my gopro stuff at this point and run DJI exclusively

[@EdwardLo-h9w]

Unless u plan to use low light mode, the ace pro is bigger, flip screen has pros and cons and the price I much more too. I didn't look at the weight but looks a bit heavier

[@r00kiet80]

What gopro accessories are not usable with the action 4?

[@aManoftheMeeple]

​@r00kiet80 the ulanzi cage I have, batteries, underwater protective housing, lens mod, media mod, remote, the nd filters I have for it.

[@r00kiet80]

@@aManoftheMeeple and that stuff is all compatible with the hero 12?

[@aManoftheMeeple]

​@@r00kiet80yes

[@SimpleHunts]

Uuuugggh! 😢Was about to buy an Ace Pro. Went to the website had a package in the cart and then went for the accessories...no pass through door to be found. For me, I need a pass through door, so I'm still tied to GoPro.

[@m.sabir21]

How about the battery life? And is there any heating issue while continuously shooting at 4k for ace pro?

[@ben.aka.bigben]

Thats a very valid point which was missed

[@quatro2732]

How’s the over heat management? How long before it shut down?

[@heniodemacedorosa9570]

Flip screen in action scenes with bike, maybe can be fragile

[@CaliMotoTV]

My only concern is the lens, I use these for motorsports and damaging the lens and having to send it out is not great. Also, if they had filters for the @insta360 I would be 100% be sold. What speed is that mount for the insta rated for?

[@OzzieTech]

looks ok but will be saving my money for now though

[@HariHaran-nc7rk]

Imagine when you are vlogging and you suddenly trip off and fall. Later, you realise that the flip-up screen has come off.

[@JoeSzilagy]

Go Pro looks sharpest in daylight, but the Insta360 is close enough. Also, the Insta360 night footage is quite impressive, and the flip screen is nice. So, if the daytime footage isn't quite sharp enough for some (on the Insta360), then the footage could be tweaked a bit in Final Cut or whatever, in post to add that little bit of sharpness, if deemed necessary. The Insta360 Ace Pro definitely wins! Damn you, David!- now I'm tempted to buy it, when I already have other Insta360 cameras, a Go Pro, Sonys, etc.!😆

[@phucmapvlog]

Does it overheat though?

[@DavidManningvlog]

Haven't been able to get it to yet!

[@odysseyusa]

I think the three most useful features are the magnetic mount, cancel record, …and the flip up screen for low shots. 👍🏼

[@paulchin4094]

Agree. And also the pause & resume recording on the same file...will save us lots of time during the culling process. Also the instant delete...Also the night shot, it looks awesome!! Also the GPS Preview Remote is sooo coool!!!

[@yonseimatt]

magnetic mount and flippy screen are exactly the reasons why I won't be buying one, but I guess everyone has a different use-case scenario ;-)@@paulchin4094

[@mookydollss7827]

Can u pause video and start recording again while using ace pro with dive case?

[@jobta]

Suggestion to test: I bought the GoPro12 because I can connect the comms of my motorcycle helmet to it via bluetooth and the camera will record its own audio + helmet comms into separate tracks (without needing wires or extra mics) which is great. However the bluetooth does not connect if I start recording by just pressing the record button with the camera off. It only works when I turn on the camera, wait for it to connect and then start recording. I would be very interested in knowing if the ACE PRO can do a quick capture and record bluetooth audio in the process.

[@LopLio-mn8if]

no se porque megusta mas su camara de presentacion, oficialmente que camara usa al filmar sus videos quisiera saber????????????

[@MilanAryal7]

The flip-up screen on an action camera? Not for me. If I need one for vlogging or similar purposes, the Osmo Pocket 3 is the best choice. I still favor the Osmo Action 4 for its price, battery life, usability, bundled packs like the adventure combo, superior waterproofing (18m on OA4 vs. 10m on Ace Pro), and image quality, which is on par or even better in some instances with the same sensor size. The AI features on Ace Pro didn't impress me much, I also trust DJI updating firmwares and adding similar AI software features to the OA4. However, I am excited and keeping an eye out for the Insta360 One X4, which might come with a better sensor (1/1.3 inch) similar to the Ace Pro, higher resolution 360 video, and other exciting features.

[@MrGreywolf]

I rather would have seen the pocket 3 in those comparison. Just seems to look so much better. Maybe you can argue the Pocket 3 is not an action camera but I think most us are using it for the same situations

[@EyeCanShootFL]

Agreed. And an action camera shouldn't have break flippy screens and no ability to replace the lens cover as it's fixed. Same issue GoPro went through a few heros ago and Insta didn't learn from their screw up.

[@wingcreator]

Pocket 3 has 1" sensor but it isn't an action cam. Two different purposes.

[@r00kiet80]

That would make absolutly no sense

[@simoz78]

Pocket 3 is miles better if you don't care about "action" form factor

[@onlysublime]

did you try any log footage? that might help the Hero 12 as you could lift the shadows.

[@calciumjones3945]

Wasn't sure but damn there's actually more advantages to the Ace Pro than I expected. Definitely edging it for me.

[@ScottsReviews]

I have been testing these cameras also. What I am finding in your IQ test that the Insta does look as clear as the DJI or GoPro. Yes Insta wins in low light but it still not worth using an action cam in lower light.

[@a2outside]

Hero 12 looks like it comes out on top during those prime cinematic video cam shots! Though lacking 10-bit color and ability to capture LOG footage, I applaud Insta360 for true innovation in the action cam space with the Ace Pro. Well done, thank you for the comparison!

[@m11kan]

While comparing the footage with Gopro and action 4 the image looks good even with 8-bit colors..

[@teofilol2666]

GoPro is all good until it freezes😅. Definitely not for me

[@ctrlnull7228]

​@teofilol2666 having just picked up the gopro 12, it's tasks much better video and pictures than the action. Pay attention to the videos... the battery and heart shut down time are almost the same. A $2k sony camera has the same issue. I own both. 4k kills batteries. Crazy how many people get fooled by these paid KZbinrs

[@gdc.photowords]

The proof of the pudding is in the video quality, to me nothing else matters including software features and the name of the lens manufacturer. If you are not fussed about lots of low light shooting, every clip I look at in this review the Gopro looks best in my opinion. Does anyone else agree?

[@ctrlnull7228]

@@gdc.photowords Completely agree. Also most of the low light footage on the action 4 looks horrendous w/o a portable light source. That comes down to senario based application. Waiting to see how insta360 stacks

[@miguelmercedez7771]

Hi! my question is 1. does it have a connection for a external mic and 2. does it continue to record if connected to a external plug or battery?

[@michaelnielsen7627]

The Ace pro is for sure my prefered choice from the three. And I like that they are so proactive in all the new AI features. Well done 360 :-)

[@pelanth]

3 questions. 1) is it a different magnetic mount to the Go 3? 2) Could you compare Dlog M on the Action 4 vs the HDR on the AcePro? 3) if you stick it in HDR in low light on accident, is it as bad as HDR in low light like on the X3? Thanks.

[@infocuslearning]

Air Photography says it is a different magnetic mount - which sucks

[@Tomzzzzzz]

I’d probably still go with DJI OA 4. Or wait for the 5. Insta360 is too heavy and not needed for MTB videos. Also narrower FOV. One thing you really didn’t get into is image stabilization, especially in high contrast & low light scenarios which is critical for MTB.

[@TheLandPirates1]

Question David, I have a metal detecting channel. When I find a cool old coin is the GP 12 or insta 360 better for close up shots for detail on my coins, I find.

[@DavidManningvlog]

Solid question! I'll get that into the follow up video for you!

[@TheLandPirates1]

@@DavidManningvlog much appreciated

[@richardmcguinness537]

Magnet mounts…. It’s all about use case. I use my GP for skydiving and skiing and there is no way I would rely on magnets and little clips… Im sticking with my GP 9 for now as I need a camera with thumb screw and GPS

[@dbsranchr]

I was skeptical of the magnetic mount stuff at first also. But DJI did a really good job on it. My action 4 has been 80 ish mph on the boat. It showed up with me to the dock.

[@richardmcguinness537]

@@dbsranchr maybe its tougher than it looks. I’m sure they’ve tested it for skiing and snowboarding….. still, it would have to be a definite no for skydiving… anything that can come off, will, and a small brick falling out of the sky at >100mph, isn’t a good day for anyone. Perhaps if they added a screw in the mount that gave you the option of permanently attaching it to the camera?

[@dbsranchr]

@@richardmcguinness537 could very well be the case. Time will tell, either way.

[@khamkeo6]

hi has the footigd on the review been edited or thats how it looks like with the action cam

[@DavidManningvlog]

All footage is straight out of the cameras👍

[@Ohsally]

Considering the image quality, angle of view, and body size, Action 4 seems to be a good choice.

[@amandaburleson2035]

sorry but the ability to cancel recordings and continue recordings and the little preview watch screen has me sold!!!

[@jsalvemini3439]

So for the average user, me, do I need 2 batteries since it has the quick charge? Instinct tells me to always have more than one.

[@DavidManningvlog]

I always have at least one extra battery👍

[@JJ-ni3qo]

RIP GoPro 😢😢😢

[@RamaJutglar]

how does the sound compare? and why is the image on the ace pro always more cropped in?

[@itsherCyy]

A 100% game changer.. no one can deny. Thanks for the comparison review, this one clearly reveals why Ace Pro can win the Hero 12 and Action 4. No complaints. Ace Pro speaks for itself.

[@pescaconMatte]

le ho entrambe... ace pro non batte dji su qualità video a luce piena...anzi

[@SHREDDIEMCSKATE]

Can you hook up the Rode Wireless to it while charging also? I don’t like swapping batteries 😢

[@THENickRyder]

Does the Ace Pro have horizon levelling? Also, what are the sound recording options like? Does it have a 3.5mm audio jack? Bluetooth mic connectivity? It's great that we're getting more options to choose from, and drive innovation forward in the action cam space! Another great video! :D

[@krisqz]

It does have horizon lock. Saw it in another video.

[@XArthieX]

What about repair ability? Will there be spare parts? Can we remove the touchscreen, when we don't need it?

[@DavidManningvlog]

Touch screen is not removable. As for replacing, I think you would need to go through the Insta360 care and warranty program just like on GoPro and DJI

[@travel_like_me]

LOL! In all comparisons, the Action 4 delivered a significantly better and sharper image, despite the much larger FOV. In night shots, the images from the Action 4 were overexposed. Was that actually intentional? ;-) Because with the correct settings, the Action 4's image would probably have been significantly better here too.

[@amandaburleson2035]

its a paid advertisement very sad to see him deceive us like this. he gets money from people that buy this

[@josephmedina0319]

what picture profile settings and luts did you use? great colors

[@DavidManningvlog]

All of the action camera footage is straight out of the cameras. No editing done to them at all👍

[@Coatsey007]

One other thought, the AI is OK, definitely a step in the right direction but I will bypass and wait for a better quality 360 camera. This is where the money is, in my humble opinion. I love the Insta360x3, but the lack of 10-bit and lower res is what I am waiting to be solved. In short, this is so much more versatile.

[@Matt.Bogosian]

I agree. When Insta360 comes out with a 360 camera that has higher resolution after reframing it I will be all over that.

[@RobGoll]

Can you watch and control it from a phone (Android) or do you need their remote?

[@DavidManningvlog]

From the App works great! Full controls and preview while recording

[@DIGITALidYOUTUBE]

Great video very informative. Asked a lot of questions that I had in my mind. I realize the prices are always changing but it would be cool to mention them as of this particular date, etc. Also, there were some AI editing features in the software that would’ve been cool to mention.

[@gnarlyd0rk]

On the widest setting, does the DJI have the widest view? Need to confirm as this will influence my purchase. Thanks!

[@TayeIm]

Man, I truly appreciate the way you make the testing process very interesting and fun to watch. Honest, clear, and entertaining review! Thank you, I know which one I am buying 😂

[@markcontreras4035]

So I have to take of my camera to pause it ? Or can I press the button ?

[@DavidManningvlog]

No, just press the button on the screen to do a "Pause" recording. Or yeah, you can just press the record button again to actually stop your clip

[@ryokohlivia]

As a regular GoPro user, it's clear the Ace Pro brings a considerable amount of power to the table.

[@GavinSeim]

This is an ad, not a real comparison.

[@TwoMadExplorers]

That pause recording function is amazing. Will do wonders for workflow for sure ❤

[@vivianvo8662]

Wished you clipped it on your shirt for the POV suggestion instead of using your mouth 😂 that’s gross

[@DavidManningvlog]

Hahaha! You can do either🤣

[@MTBIKEXC]

The one thing I like about the GoPro 12 is the 1/4-20 / GoPro mount all in one without needing adapters. Does that magnetic mount have both in one?

[@zachh7375]

The way the 2x zoom works is by eliminating the pixel binning. It's got an 8k sensor and normally it uses 4 pixels and AI processing to end up with one really good pixel. When you use the 2x mode, it doesn't do that anymore so you lose out on a bit of dynamic range but it is still technically 4k.

[@RdOZITO]

and there is a bug, when change to 2x mode, you ll lose 3s footage.... so strange

[@WorkItJ216]

External mic support without using an adapter. Just going straight thru the usb-c port. Battery life? Overheating? Etc

[@Denverdaytrippers]

The Hero 12 still looks really good, hard to tell the difference from the ace pro. The action 4 comes in third for me. Im looking forward to the updated Gopro Quick for desktop more so than new camera options.

[@AC-lt5ro]

I really need that GoPro desktop app to be a hit, especially on Mac OS. I have plans to manipulate a lot of the metadata however, as of right now, the only solution is to use Garmin’s Virb app, which is a shame.