Moondrop Kato - Does the Kato TKO the 7hz Timeless? - Honest Audiophile Impressions

[@MatthewCollada]

You are the only reviewer who I can say have very similar taste in tuning with me. I have Timeless and Kato. I kept the Kato and sold the Timeless. To my ears, Timeless are 2 levels higher than Kato in technicalities. But the tuning and timbre on Kato is really refined (I do agree that it could you just a little more sparkle but still, it is amazing). Mids are more natural and bodied in Kato as well without sounding too warm. Imaging is also surprisingly better on Kato than Timeless.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness. Thanks for the impressions.

[@coaldust01]

You should have tried oratory's HT and USOUND eq profiles on the timeless before you sold them, his usound profile is superb and really improves on the stock tuning.

[@Empty12345]

@@coaldust01 How do you EQ your headphones? Software?

[@hyper0505]

@@Empty12345 auto-eq github + equalizer apo for windows or wavelet for android

[@JustSomeDude31]

Comfort wise, which one is better, Kato or Timeless? And I mean wear comfort not sound comfort.

[@deparoo]

Can't remember how many times I've seen this review, I can hardly wait to take a listen.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@deparoo]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I finally got it 5 days ago and boy! The heaviest things I've ever put inside my ears but as soon as they go inside, they disappear. Pretty comfy, can wear for about 2 to 3 hours until they start feeling weighty. KATO is now the best sounding headphones/iems I own. I love good clean crisp Bass, KATO really delivers on bass, sub bass is also amazing.Blue Laces 2 by Nipsy Hustle and Doin' it right by Daft punk were 2 songs that I used to try sub bass. Vocals sound so clear and feel like the artist is right in front of me singing to me! Instruments do sound the way they do in real life. I Don't find the trables sharp like some say, I really enjoy them and they sound sparkly to me. Soundstage is also very nice but could be better. I'm being nit-picky now. Just before I got my KATO I broke my btr5 so all the listening is done straight out of my phone headphone jack; I don't find myself wanting for more. Very satisfied with what KATO delivers. Thank you for helping me make this purchase decision, I was going through dilemma and your suggestions really helped me. Btw. I got the gun metal finish and glad I did. They look way better than how they usually look on videos. Spring tips! Softest tips I've ever put in my ears, the first time I put them in,I thought they didn't go into my ear cannels. Edit : can't tell a difference between steel and brass nozzles but I use the brass ones just cause I like them.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness 😎 Glad you enjoy the Kato. You're welcome for the suggestion. Thanks for the impressions 👍

[@mattbauer6304]

You are one of the few people on KZbin that's here just to inform & share your passion. So many people are just here for the $ which is fine but they often have an agenda & can be influenced by sponsors.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks 👍

[@Assimilator702]

Once again great review Dave. Here’s a suggestion for a review that should prove to be a popular upload for you. The elephant in the room. A direct comparison of the KATO vs Starfield vs Aria. Not sure if you ever owned the KXXS. I still remember the sound signature of the KXXS which is similar to the KATO.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks for the kind words. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@Graciashauf]

@@TheHonestAudiophile my next question! Would love a comparison to aria and perhaps 7hz timeless

[@jaroslavfricek7772]

Well David you are on the home run reviewing all the great IEM of these days...the last one in this price range is the Hana 21...I thought about the Kato...but I have Tanchjim O2 which is incredible DD so for now I skipped the Kato and got today Blessing2 and Timeless ✌️🔆

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness. Look forward to hearing your impressions of the Timeless and Blessing 2.

[@ramaidaugirdas]

Me too, Dave! I really wanna know about these two. How does it compare? I was thinking about which one should I buy, but after few days and reviews, i got the Timeless, because it's cheaper and i never listened to a planar.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@ramaidaugirdas awesomeness ❤️ Look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@ramaidaugirdas]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Sure! I'll na back to tell what I think about it! 🤩😊

[@shameermohamed4345]

so what's your opinion...is blessing 2 better than Oxygen..also are you ok with timeless because some loved Kato and B2 hate timeless

[@valmirseog276]

And what would Moondrop Kato's update be? Considering all the technicalities and sound, tonal and detail characteristics. I'm afraid to buy a more expensive earphone and keep liking Kato more! haha

[@chestercopperpot3793]

Must. Resist. Ordering....great review! xD

[@beanburrito9231]

Great review! my Katos should come in any day now I’m more excited now great channel love how you review these items.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness 😎 Look forward to hearing your impressions. Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoy the reviews ❤️

[@Slaartibart]

Mine too :)

[@beanburrito9231]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I finally received my katos. These are my first IEMs the quality is great I can’t believe I didn’t get into the audio scene sooner!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness ❤️ Glad you enjoy them.

[@kengkhim]

Hi Dave, good review as always, love and support from Malaysia.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesome, thank you!

[@mingqu007]

Thanks for another great review. I find you review is relaxing and enjoyable to watch. I'm wondering if you have plan to review moondrop variations?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed the review ❤️ I'd love to review the Variations, maybe one will be provided for review.

[@arthurcrosby5755]

You present a great review of the Kato’s, Dave. Your description of the sound is excellent and your comparison with other IEM’s is so good. I have the Starfield’s and from what you say the Kato’s are a significant improvement. The accessories seem to be great too. The Kato’s are now top of my shopping list! Thank you for excellent video and review. 👍🏼😀

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thank you kindly! Glad you found the review helpful.I look forward to hearing your impressions of the Kato.

[@screwb1882]

I would have to go for the Kato based off the connector alone. MMCX has been a nightmare on every IEM i have tried it on.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Understandable, mmcx can be a pain. I haven't had any issues though.

[@datdudeinred]

Yes thanks for mentioning this. Even i had so painful experiences. and they always fail exactly after 13 months lol. so no warranty. This is why I can't trust fiio iems & most mmcx iems.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@datdudeinred my pleasure, you're welcome. Bummer about the cable breakage.

[@datdudeinred]

@@TheHonestAudiophile love your reviews. One of the best out there. Still confused between kato vs kinera freya[getting it for less than kato] i know its old but have you heard freya too? if yes a brief comparison would be appreciated

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry haven't heard the Kinera Freya. Glad you enjoy the reviews. Thanks for the kind words, greatly appreciate.

[@Blakeoffire]

Excellent, to-the-point review... thanks Dave ! I've been comparing reviews/graphs of the Kato with the Timeless and the Yume Midnight for my next IEM purchase... Your valued input is greatly appreciated... cheers !

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

If a Midnight is available for review, I'll give it a listen, review and comparison.

[@Blakeoffire]

@@TheHonestAudiophile That would be cool and appreciated if you can nab a set to review... thanks Dave

[@chargedx1]

This a great review, great description on sound. I'm looking forward to watching more reviews. Thank you!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness 😎 Glad you enjoyed the video ♥️

[@mic44lee44]

Oh Yeah DAC’s and Tips ??? I Will Eventually Buy Them !!! LOL 😂 Thanks 🙏🏾

[@mic44lee44]

Your Reviews are Great and Thank You For Being Honest and Simple as Myself and Eventually I Will Buy Them And Have 50 Pairs Of I E M’s !!!! LOL 😂 You are The Best !!! Thank You Again

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome. Glad you find the reviews helpful.

[@sarathms3997]

Do i need an extra DAC? I have an LG G7 with QUAD DAC 🤩

[@sandyccz6487]

beautiful review

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thank you 😊

[@benjamincarter6095]

Comparing a DD and PM... Not surprised the PM is more business and the DD is more fun

[@jorgeh4591]

Hi Dave, thank you for this video and all the reviews you upload. Is the Kato a still top contender in 2023 in this price bracket? Cheers

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Yes, absolutely! You are welcome for the channel content. Thank you for the comment.

[@spsharan2000]

Can you please compare these: 1. Moondrop Blessing 2 2. 7Hz Timeless 3. Etymotic ER2SE 4. Moondrop Aria

[@TOLK]

3.>1.>2.>4.

[@abhitejvelore]

@@TOLK no way. 2=1>3>4 And for 3 I'm assuming the ER2XR over the SE version. Ps: I own the XR and have heard the others.

[@RajeshRavindranathan]

I got the Aria, I think you shouldn't get it, more hype than anything. I way way prefer my kz zsx over it and costs less. far more details than what you can ever get on Aria/Blon 03 etc.

[@spsharan2000]

@@RajeshRavindranathan I got the Tanchjim Tanya

[@RajeshRavindranathan]

@@spsharan2000 is that ok? I was once thinking about their oxygen

[@swampdweller.5935]

Nice one Dave. Thank you. Much appreciated

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome ♥️

[@charongrayi4863]

Hi Dave! Great detailed review 👏👍 Please try to review tin hifi t3 plus.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I would love to review the T3 Plus, hopefully one is provided for review.

[@da3726]

Great earphones, but mine developed a really bad channel imbalance within days. Looking online, it's seems I am not the only one with this problem.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry to hear you had an issue with your Kato. I hope you were able to get it replaced with the warranty.

[@da3726]

Fortunately it was from Amazon and within 30 days. As a new audio enthusiast I really appreciate your no nonsense and honest reviews. I watch your reviews even if it's not something I would ever get as they are so enjoyable.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@da3726 Good! Amazon is great for such issues. Glad you find the channel content enjoyable. Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated.

[@DigiTal-h4z]

I definitely enjoyed my dunu titan s sound, do u think kato is a worthy upgrade from it?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

The Kato is a worthy upgrade in technical abilities over the Titan S. Titan S has a more intimate, forward mid but the Kato has better staging, detail and resolution.

[@wokthetalk3079]

Thanks Dave for another well presented review. I like that you take the time to compare the item being reviewed with items that you already have and as well how to get the best performance out of it (EI: tips DAC & amp pairing). It helps to gage how it sounds and how to best use the reviewed item. Can I ask you how the Kato sounds as compared to another well regarded & popular IEM, the Moondrop Starfield? Also Dave can I ask you to review the XDuoo XD-05 Balance DAC/amp. I’m thinking of purchasing it to use my home and office desktop kit with the hopes of doing OpAmp swapping for variety…. Thank you

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the review. Starfield is warmer and has more mid bass presence. The Starfield isn't as detailed or resolving. The Starfield has more treble presence and is somewhat fatiguing in comparison. In my opinion, the Kato is an to the upgrade to the Starfield. Thanks for the suggestion of the xDuoo XD05, I'll see if one is available for review.

[@wokthetalk3079]

Thank you Dave for your reply and the Starfield comparison. As for the XD-05 Bal, I struggled with this chose. I share my work time between the office and home desk where critical listening is not a priority. I rather make a saving on my desktop set-up purchase and transport the XD-05 back n’ forth and put this savings towards a better DAC as I slowly upgrade my two channel listening system….. thank you once again!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome.

[@omarreyes8546]

Hi Dave! i hope are you doing well! one question would you still recommend the kato in 2024? or do you think exist better DD iem in which kato can be compared and surpassed? have a good night!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Kato is a solid option in 2024.

[@omarreyes8546]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thanks Dave, take care

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@omarreyes8546 my pleasure, you're welcome

[@mrjacksack8592]

Great review; thank you.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome. Thanks for the kind words ❤️

[@Javier_2005]

Could you give me a summary review of the Kato and Hidizs MS3?, I'm thinking of buying one of those and I'd like to have a reference/opinion from an audiophile like you. I'm looking for a somewhat relaxed sound but without being flat because I don't like something without bass or treble but with very good quality and I hope I won't be disappointed when choosing one of those

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Here is a link to my MS3 review:kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZWlm6qvf6alm5o

[@vishistaryan3883]

Hi Dave!! I am looking for an iem to listen to classical piano(Chopin, Schumann etc.) and am torn between the kato, tea 2 and ie200. Which amongst the three has the best tone, timbre and technicalities?? Feel free to recommend any other iem that you think is better suited to the task. Thanks!!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I've not heard the IE200. The Kato and Tea 2 both are excellent for the genres of music. I also recommend the Moondrop Blessing 3 and SoftEars Studio 4.

[@doifeellucky]

As a word of caution I just got these and for my ears the stock tips make them unusable. Not enough grip from any of them to keep them in my ears due to the excess weight of the metal construction. I have small ears and medium tips are normally fine. Fortunately I have the tips from my T3+, which is an improvement, but the fit still isn’t ideal. I’d argue the supposed improvement over the T3+ is negligible due to the inferior fit.

[@doifeellucky]

As a follow up I can only use the memory foam stock tips as they’re the only type that provide enough grip to offset the weight of the metal case and thick cable.

[@ahsgoc]

hi, awesome video now Im thinking about buying the katos (I was between the blessing 3 or the katos but man you got me). But now I have a question, is there any real difference between the katos and any bluethoot earphone, lets say the buds pro 2?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I'm glad you found the review helpful. Look forward to hearing your impressions of the Kato. Differences between a TWS and the Kato are vast in my personal experiences. I've not heard the Buds Pro 2. But the most noticeable differences will be better detail retrieval, resolution, more accurate tone and timbre.

[@nahdifferentguy4888]

Subscribed this was the perfect review right when I needed it. Kato’s arriving this weekend! Q5k dac Tuesday can’t wait. Do wonder though, if you were asked to EQ these (even if that’s not your style or preference usually) what would be your forced recommendation for lossless bassy hip hop?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Glad you found the review helpful. I don't eq and have no idea how to answer your question, sorry. Look forward to hearing your impressions of the Kato.

[@nahdifferentguy4888]

@@TheHonestAudiophile left iem was dead on arrival, will finally get the new pair by end of the week hopefully. Right one sounded good though lol

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@anthonyrocha3625]

Is the kato stock cable 3.5ft long or 4ft? Wondering if I need to buy a longer cable.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

It is 4 foot

[@jimawhitaker]

Hay I didn't get a second cable! 😢

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Pre-order got the second channel. I didn't know that when video was made.

[@benjapsp]

hello dave, it's been a while since you recommended me the Moondrop Aria and i love them. it's time to get a new iem, what do you think ? should i get moondrop starfield or kato ? i know you said its a really nice upgrade to the aria but does it worth the 3xPrice ?. Thank u dave.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Yes, I believe the Kato is worth the extra price tag as an upgrade to the Aria and Starfield.

[@doifeellucky]

Hi Dave, good review as always. You mentioned not being able to wear them for more than about an hour. I’m assuming that is due to the case rubbing on your ears. I have fairly small ears. Any recommendations for something more comfortable with similar performance up to £300? Thanks.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

7hz Timeless, MoonDrop Blessing 2, SeeAudio Yume are all excellent choices

[@doifeellucky]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome ❤️

[@juanblanco7898]

Could you please compare the bass between the Kato and the Timeless from a "technical" or "qualitative" standpoint? I think the latter is more up my valley overall but I'm concerned with reports on its somewhat smoothed-over bass with soft attack - that's a big no-no for me personally. Somewhat controversial reports on its sounstage don't help either.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Timeless review: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2PCi6F-fa91j8U Timeless is more technical of the two but still has that touch of fun. I don't find the Timeless to be smoothed, soft bass. Bass on the Kato does have a little more texture to it and is more impactful and leaning toward the fun side but isn't lacking in details or resolution.

[@juanblanco7898]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome ❤️

[@Tanz.g]

What do you think? Kato or Oxygen? Thoughts? Thank you!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry haven't heard the Oxygen.

[@Tanz.g]

@@TheHonestAudiophile dangit.

[@RajeshRavindranathan]

I checked a lot of places but the Kato doesnt come with 2 cables, all those places. are u sure?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

MIne was a pre-order, apparently the pre-orders came with an extra cable.

[@RajeshRavindranathan]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thank you, that figures, next time I am not gonna fight for an xtra cable, I love that cable :)

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Kato cable is amazing for sure.

[@RajeshRavindranathan]

@@TheHonestAudiophile yeah and those tips that came with it were just a good package

[@RajeshRavindranathan]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Just got Kato and Tin T2 evo today, auditioned the 7Hz, prefered KATO :)

[@julianfrancofarinas4280]

would this be a substancial upgrade from a fiio fh3?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I haven't heard the FH3 since I reviewed it so I am not able to do a direct comparison. Based on what I remember, I would take the Kato over the FH3 as it is more balanced and cohesive in the mids and treble and it also has more natural tone and timbre and a bit more of soul.

[@maxb.simonsen2459]

Are you sure everyone gets a second cable? You are the first one that I have heard mention it

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I thought it was included but I could be mistaken. Sorry if I mislead.

[@maxb.simonsen2459]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I just haven't heard anyone else mention it. So idk.

[@nyan4x]

@@maxb.simonsen2459 extra cable is for preorders only

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks for the clarification.I updated the pinned comment at the top with the clarification.

[@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Dave, you are special. We are minions. (Kidding)

[@klemcga]

hm, easier listen compared to aria? I was under impression these were very bright?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

To my ears the Aria is brighter. The Kato is well controlled and non fatiguing.

[@will2.0nah73]

How doe these bad boy compare to the meze rai solo's ?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Haven't heard the Meze Rai Solo in a long time. If memory serves me correctly, the Rai Solo are more energetic and forward in the upper mids and treble and have less bass impact. The Kato may have better detail retrieval and resolution and tone and timbre is more accurate.

[@will2.0nah73]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thanks ! Nice review too

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@will2.0nah73 Thanks ❤️ You're welcome.

[@therealca1eb]

HI Dave @the Honest Audiophile I'm wanting to get my 1st iem & would like your opinion. I'm currently considering the 7hz Timeless, the Moondrop Kato, or just starting cheap with the Aria. I currently have the Drop Sennheiser HD 6xx & Ifi Zen Dac v2 Any input or advice would be appreciated.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I'd shy away from Aria as both Kato and Timeless are vast improvements over it. Kato has a little more fun side and Timeless has a little more technical side when comparing the two. Both are amazing in my opinion and you can't go wrong with either.

[@RYU47376]

I know this will sound stupid, but how does it compare to sony ier-z1r

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry have only heard the IER-Z1r once at an audio meet for about 3 minutes and that was several years ago. I don't remember enough to give a fair and honest opinion.

[@maximeleblanc7828]

I’m curious: what video games are you playing?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I play mostly simracing games, ie. Assetto Corsa Competizione, Project Cars 2, Gran Turismo Sport and a sports games like FIFA and Madden. I also play a lot of Wreckfest and a bit of Battlefied and Call of Duty. But my main genres of games are simracinga and sports.

[@maximeleblanc7828]

@@TheHonestAudiophile come join me in Apex Legends 😉

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I am not a PC gamer though, I'm just a PS4 Pro pleb.

[@maximeleblanc7828]

@@TheHonestAudiophile 😱…😉

[@Graciashauf]

@@TheHonestAudiophile oh you on that legit sim racing! No iracing? No rocket league? *just noticed the no pc thing

[@Graciashauf]

Can you check out the fiio eclipse? Against these?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I would love to review the Eclipse, hopefully one is provided for review. Thank you for the suggestion.

[@samyg123]

How would you compare these with the M5-1D?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

M5-1D has a lighter and more airy presentation with a slight advantage in detail retrieval and resolution, stage is slightly wider, deeper and more layered. The Kato has a touch more natural tone and timbre.

[@waynereid6103]

The IEM market seems to be saturated at every price point. You pick one then look around and find dozens of rivals. I am trying to find an IEM, around £200, for a mobile phone, or at least a cable to upgrade my existing Kz's. The thing is the headphones have to terminate in a 6.35mm jack. The Aune head amp/dac I have, annoyingly, outputs through this monster jack. The Flamingo dac is supplied with a 6.35mm adaptor but that's an extra layer in the system and I prefer to keep things as pure as possible. Finally, for the love of all that comes straight from the barrel, please stop projecting anything you're holding towards the camera. It's an annoying trait and frightens the snake [long story]. Unless you're making a fifties style 3D film, accept we can see all the detail we need just fine.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

For the cable termination it would have to be custom made. I can't think of any cable options that terminate in 6.35mm. As for IEM, I'd recommend the Moondrop Kato as the all-around under $200.

[@waynereid6103]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you, there is probably no point spending more to upgrade the KZ ZS10's than I spent on the IEM's themselves. Interestingly I hadn't thought of custom made, just found one that's not overly expensive. I'll probably give the Kato's a try first, many thanks.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@waynereid6103 my pleasure, you're welcome

[@MannyScoot]

How do the Kato compare to the S8 ?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry haven't heard the S8.

[@teammasik3805]

Listened to them from phone and sound was similar to trn vx (~50$). Is it because I listen to them without dac? Or I got defective headphones?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I haven't heard the TRN VX so I can't compare that way. I would say that a dac/amp/dongle would help the Kato sound better. Unable to say if you have a defective earphone without hearing it. I recommend you try different sources.

[@teammasik3805]

Thanks for response

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome ❤️

[@mylifeisart]

The trick with any new audio equipment is to give it a few days. Listen to the new ones exclusively for a couple days and then go back to the old set. You will definitely hear a difference. The ears sometimes take time to adjust to new frequency responses and driver behaviors

[@teammasik3805]

@@mylifeisart Thanks, they actually sound better rn (it took 5 days). Always thought it takes only 5-15 hours to make headphones sound as they should.

[@kwinzman]

Please compare them to the FiiO x Crinacle FHE:Eclipse !

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

If an Eclipse gets provided for review, I'll gladly give it a listen.

[@kwinzman]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I don't have one but maybe reach out to Crinacle ? I would appreciate it. Thanks for the quick reply!

[@alixzander777]

What is better - FD3 or Kato?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry haven't heard FD3

[@iqz4937]

what I bought one and did not get a spare cable lol

[@TheLateral18]

Does the cable comes with a mic?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

No it doesn't come with a mic.

[@TheLateral18]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thank you, if i find a cable with a mic I'll get them. I been looking to upgrade from the 1More quad driver

[@fatihtuncer7230]

they are not in the same price segment but can you compare with fiio fd7?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry, haven't heard the FD7.

[@BaldyBaeby]

I've bought the fd7, keep it for a week. It was a solid disappointment.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@BaldyBaeby thanks for the impressions, sorry to hear about your disappointment.

[@BaldyBaeby]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Actually i'm a bass light IEM user. I use the andromeda 2020 daily. The fd7 was overly overpowered in the lower region. Yesterday i've bought the Kato Matte Grey, i should receive it this week, bass shy iem are the best.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@BaldyBaeby look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@davidwalsvig2959]

How does Kato compare to JVC FDX1?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry haven't heard the JVC FDX1.

[@davidwalsvig2959]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks. I've also heard it's excellent in the single dynamic driver range. Leans neutral bright is my understanding.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Maybe one will be sent in for review.

[@beepover]

Kato vs Mele?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Mele review coming soon 😀

[@neizvestniy4el]

Timeless or Kato?)

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Comparison made to Timeless at 12:40 mark kzbin.info/www/bejne/ramldHuFbp5pec0

[@tecno4u31]

Kato need burn?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I didn't notice any significant sonic improvement as time wore on but it is always advised to give some time before listening critically. No matter what, I always give new gear 40ish hours of "burn-in" before a review.

[@markpaulson1346]

@@TheHonestAudiophile what's your method for "burning in"?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I play random music at moderate levels for 8hrs a day for a week. Sometimes I have to add more time and others not. Some gear has audible changes but most sonic difference are heard with a few hours of any at all. Basically I just "burn in" gear to cover the bases.

[@markpaulson1346]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thank you! Absolutely love your reviews!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness 😎 Glad you enjoy the channel.

[@milk-ub9zo]

I'm pretty sure you forgot a word in the title lol

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Oh please do share; what word do you think I forgot?

[@iDTecKt]

I found the Kato boring

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Interesting. I'm curious, what source gear your using and what type of music you listen to.

[@iDTecKt]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Its always personal preference due to how you perceive lows highs and mids, but yes, i never listen to reviews when it comes down to my choice, its probably due to the fact i like my atmospheric drum and bass, heavy rock etc, im sure if you listen to jazz and the likes the Kato might be more for you, again i like loud music and i cant do that with airy high notes because its to much and fatiguing. There is just something about the Timeless for my tastes, for the price i paid £165 im in love , its a little on the flat muddy side if i was being picky, but i like that darker close sound, its warmer and the sub bass is very rounded as well as the highs, again because i listen to music at max volumes this is the better choice for me and my ears ✌

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@iDTecKt Thanks for the response. Yes for sure music preference plays a part but so listening volume and source gear. Please read the following post I wrote about this topic. I urge you to do the challenge with the IEM of your choice and/or both the Timeless and Kato. www.thehonestaudiophile.com/post/how-loud-is-too-loud-does-it-sound-better-an-honest-audiophile-listening-level-challenge

[@iDTecKt]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks for the input, ive been listening to music on headphones for the last 32 years so id like to think i have an understanding :) this is what i am sayin about the 7hz Timeless, i can extend the volume without loss and no fatigue, this is what im most happy about with them, i tested lots and i cant do that with others, the tuning for a planar has to be the best at this price on an IEM too

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Glad you enjoy the Timeless. You're welcome for the information.

[@fidelyong304]

Put the video at 2x u will still understand him

[@davidcoons89]

😂🤣

[@paulosilva8200]

I find it funny that every person that does reviews on audio they give opinions based in what they like instead of real recording or how natural a iem should sound.same they don't like bass. Some they like the sound bright. How about being real to recordings. Hey. When they say etymotic xr2 as a good irm. Makes me laugh. Not even close to real recording. They talk about cables without knowing the quality of the cable inside. They talk about drivers without knowing the model of the drivers. They talk about iems without mention the sensitivity or volumes . Honestly

[@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied]

There is some artistry to tuning, and as a musician and producer myself, I prefer a combination, for listening. Not for recording, however. In listening, I appreciate the unique subtleties of the tuning, as long as the overall technical details of the fidelity to the instruments, including vocals, in the music are solid. When recording music, you understand that it is also altered, by humans and a mixing board, correct? Software, the whole thing? The mix is a result of a combination of the producer and the artist. None of it is true to the actual recording of the performance. It is always tweaked, edited, adjusted, the tempo, every detail, to correct human error, or as a part of the creative process. So hi fidelity seems more of interest to people who may be more technicians, than creators. The artist, producer, and often a sound engineer, are tweaking the thing to high hell for months before we ever hear it. There are artists who prefer to perform and record a set, together, and this might be a bit more open for debate. Even then, the sound is tweaked to high hell. Just fewer tracks. So the insistence upon fidelity, is to the version that has already been altered and tweaked. So as each part is recorded, in studio, the end result of that performance never has fidelity to the original performance. Not even close. So, the purist element of hi-fidelity feels a tad extreme, within the entire context of music creation and recording in general. They tweak live performances as well. I’m assuming you mean fidelity to the final mix the artist, producer and label settled on? You can’t know what that was unless you hear the masters. And even in this case, the artist and producer, generally, would have continued editing the sound forever, because they are creative people, and will always hear something they missed, or can imagine a better possibility, thus, deadlines. That’s the creative process. I am an artist and fine arts professor as well, so teaching this really augments my entire understanding of the creative process, for me as an artist. Students are so helpful, because I get the unique opportunity to watch exactly how all of these unique, completely different individuals, handle the same project specifications, and it is fascinating.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

To clarify, the specs are: 32ohm impedance 123db sensitivity (not the 103db I said in the review) 10hz-45khz frequency response 10mm DD Extra cable was only provided during the pre-order period

[@Graciashauf]

depends. Some companies rate sensitivity on input voltage alone. Some rate it on power (current x voltage= watts) in that case, the db number will change if theyre rating on voltage vs power.

[@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied]

Dave, where are all the bass heads I keep hearing about? I can’t find them anywhere….I just keep hearing about bassheads…are these the raycon/beats crowd? I know, “some beats don’t suck”. I hate all the plastic on these mainstream, ugly headphones. Sony, Bose, skulldestroyercurbstomper, etc.

[@twinpiejo4361]

Hallo Dave, Your honest reviews and your enthusiasm about this IEM made me bought the Moondrop Kato & Kotori Dauntless. Please proceed with making these great KZbin videos and informative reviews. Warm wishes out of the Netherlands!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesome 👍😎 Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated. Glad you find the channel content helpful.

[@tanushverma2269]

Just get a Kato and a Timeless and enjoy your audiophile retirement forever after.

[@ziikzaaak]

Until you want a...

[@tanushverma2269]

@@ziikzaaak an upgrade haha!

[@niccerkadoabuckado8256]

*laughs in tanchjim oxygen*

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry, haven't heard the Tanchjim Oxygen.

[@Graciashauf]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Ive read some good things about those as well. Look into them for sure.

[@trevin550]

Great video. I really enjoy your content. Is the Kato a good upgrade from the Starfield or are they too similar? I would hate to spend $200 on the Kato and wind up with a 2nd Starfield. Thanks.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Kato is another level from the Starfield, big upgrade.

[@trevin550]

Thanks for your reply. I’ll use your link if I decide to get one. Keep up the great work.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome ❤️ Look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@amarwagh6237]

Th moondrop Kato comes with only 1 cable and the 2 cables were provided for pre-orders

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks for the clarification. See pinned comment as that is mentioned.

[@shameermohamed4345]

Thanks Dav, I read and heard lot about kato but your review forced me to buy over timeless and blessing2... As you said it's rocking all genres..no need to skip

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness 😎 Look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@MariusDanTite]

Hello, how would these compare to the hexa? Thanks

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Hexa has a thinner note weight, is brighter, more aggressive and has less natural tone and timbre. Kato is more detailed and resolving.

[@MariusDanTite]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you so much! This helped a lot.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@MariusDanTite my pleasure, you're welcome.

[@slikjmuzik]

What would you all suggest for an iem that presents at least similarly to the openness of the Moondrop Kato, but that is a lighter body and cable (still good quality tho), and maybe grey or black (not a dealbreaker), with just as much, if not a touch more bass. Around $100, but willing to go up to $120 or $140. I have the Kato and I love it...for home listening. When I'm singing I need something lighter with a lighter cable, but I need smooth mids and highs, in order to stay as least fatiguing as possible, and like I said, just as much bass, or more. Ideally black for wedding gigs, but that's less crucial cuz I'm currently using the Kato mirror finish and they look slick, it's just the cable is on the heavier side, so that contributes to the iems slipping out little by little when doing even simple dance moves. Any recommendations? Been looking at the Linsoul Tangzu Vudu Verse 1, Truthear x Crinacle Zero Red, Simgot EA500LM, 7hz Sonus, Kefine Delci and Shanling Sono. Are any of those decent options for what I'm looking for? Sorry for the long question. Lots to be explained. Currently using SpinFit W1's. They seem to be a good balance for me.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I recommend the Meze Alba and Tanchjim Kara. The Kara is great as a stage monitor. The Alba maybe heavy thiu, similar to the Karo

[@slikjmuzik]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Ty very much! Looking into them now!!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome

[@Pablito5614]

Love all ur reviews brother. So if u absolutely had to pick one which would it be the Kato or the Timeless and why?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I'd pick the Kato because of the tone and timbre. I love both though and highly recommend each.

[@antonristo1096]

Hi! I've really been enjoying your IEM reviews lately! Do you prefer the AFUL Perfomer 5 to the Kato? How would you compare the bass slam of those two IEMs?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I prefer the Kato to the P5. Bass slam the P5 has more. Glad you enjoy the channel content.

[@antonristo1096]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks for the response! I've been trying to decide between those two for a 200 dollar-ish IEM. Do you maybe have some other recommendations in that price range?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

ThieAudio Elixir 7hz Timeless Tin Hifi P1 Max Shuoer S12

[@antonristo1096]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thank you very much! I'll check those ones out as well!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome.

[@prince_adobo]

Hello Dave. May i just ask, Im a headphone guy and my favorite all rounder is the Hifiman sundara. Is the Timeless similar sounding to it? Im looking to get something for my commuting. Thanks!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I wouldn't say the Timeless is a carbon copy of the Sundara but it has some similarities.

[@drnits77]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Hello Dave, nice review and comparison. I highly appreciate your work. I also have a similar preference in sound. I love my he400i 2020, and want to have something similar (balanced sound with a little bit of sparkle in treble). Love the sound of planar magnetic headphone. Still confused between Kato and timeless. I have many 20-50 usd iems but all have their own limitations and want to jump to 200 usd range. What would u suggest for my taste.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Either way your getting stellar sonics. Personally I would pick the Kato. But the Timeless has that kiss of planar that you like so that might be the starting point.

[@9rows]

Hi Dave. Can you answer a question for me? What accessory (DAC dongle, other?) would I need to drive the Kato when used with a smartphone? Background info: I am NOT an audiophile. I listen to music via Spotify on a smartphone, exclusively, and will continue to do so. I daily an Android at the moment (Pixel3, USB-C, no headphone jack). Current headphones are Sony WH1000XM4. Current ear buds are Sony WF1000XM4. I really like both of these Sony products. I am just considering "upgrading" to something a little more "music focused", if that makes sense. Open to your suggestions given my scenario. Thanks!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Periodic Audio Rhodium NextDrive Spectra X Venture Electronics Odyssey HD xDuoo Link 2021 I look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@9rows]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thank you

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome

[@sasakimakina764]

@@9rows Maybe I'm too late, but I would say you should *not* get a pricy DAC for how you're planning to use the Kato. One of the main appeals of IEMs in comparison to headphones is that they are easy to drive and usually can plugged straight into a phone/computer. It's possible that a DAC could have a slight audio improvement to not using one, but whether or not this difference is actually significant, or real at all, is a subject of debate in the IEM community. It's much better value to buy a $300 earphone than a $200 earphone + $100 DAC. Since your phone does not have a headphone jack, the Apple usb-C to 3.5 mm dongle is actually an excellent DAC with such low distortion it competes with DACs 5-10x its price. It's only $9, with free shipping straight from Apple.

[@raMmpage18]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I'm looking for a one and done IEM for my Galaxy S21 ultra and i'd like to try the KATO based on the good reviews. I'm currently using a $5 type-c DAC to drive my AKG samsung earphone. I don't want to buy a separate Hiby FC4 so I dropped the Timeless in my options. Is a cheap dongle like the one that i'm using enough to drive the KATO?

[@ppg68]

I already own the blessing 2 and the aria, I like the blessing 2 but would also enjoy to have a warmer headphone like the aria but with better highs/vocals, do you think the Kato would be a good fit for the purpose or maybe the timeless?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Kato and Timeless both would be good options. The Timeless is harder to drive as it is a planar.

[@ppg68]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks, I have an amp but based the reviews I've seen I guess I'll grab the Kato since they appear to be less clinical, really appreciate that you still reply to older video, really cool of you :)

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@ppg68 my pleasure, you're welcome. Look forward to hearing your impressions of the Kato.

[@ahealthkit2745]

Something another youtuber pointed out was that the brass/bronze nozzles apparently amplify bass quite a bit, recommend giving it a try to see if it improves bassy songs.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Yep, which is why I prefer the silver filter, it's more neutral and natural. I tested with both filters as mentioned in the video.

[@ahealthkit2745]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Ah, right! I must've slept through that part since I was looking to see if you did a comparison.

[@ahealthkit2745]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Also not sure if you mention it in the video or not, but the Moondrop Kato comes standard with one cable. The ones given out to influencers came w/ a bonus cord.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

That has been covered extensively in the comments.

[@francisignatiusborrero5986]

been waiting on a direct comparison between these two for a while now. thanks for the review

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome ❤️

[@ZelothMix]

I ordered and returned the Kato. The high mids where too present and very fatiguing after a while. On metal music, the timbales where too present, despite the swap of tips of nosle.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thanks for the impressions. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@QuanNguyen-lw7et]

Hi Dave, do you think kato is a big upgrade from dunu titan s? Especially in technicality.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Yes, the Kato is better with technical abilities.

[@JoseSantos-uc8cl]

De Niro pointing at Dave " You,Youu...Youuuuu!! " In short. These were meant to be heard with well recorded, mixed and mastered music. Other than that, it is a hit or a miss with anything else outside a good production...Yeah! These don't lie. Went with the warmer nozzle. I'm sensitive to the upper mids, so the silver nozzle was playing pacman with my ears (biting). Only using EQ (Poweramp EQ/Android) to cut upper mids when the song is harsh to me. Truly amazed hearing all of this coming out of a 1DD. Very happy to have run into you. Happy owner of the Kinera Celest Pandamon. And now the Moondrop KATO too. Buying the P1 MAX with confidence! Thanks again Dave! Be Well Used: motorola ace 5g, FiiO BTR5, Lenovo Laptop, Topping DX-1, 1Mii B03 Bluetooth 5 Transmitter(TV to BTR5/LDAC stream) and a KZbin/Music streamer - Simple audio setup. Works well for me. Hope this helps, a bit more, for those seeking too.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Glad you enjoy the Kato. Thanks for the impressions. Look forward to your thoughts on the P1 Max.

[@carminedesanto6746]

Thinking of the KATO..in the grey finish. Got the Moondrop Aria a d the IKKO OH10’s..I think I’ve gotten a signature that I like. I’ll give them a serious look. Great review 🥃

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness 💓 Thanks for the kind words, greatly appreciated.

[@carminedesanto6746]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I edited it ..to more reflect the end of the video..I played that part ( the comparisons) a few times. Cheers 🍻

[@Graciashauf]

theyre having QA issues on the matte finish. This is why theyre very hard to find right now. I dont get what's so difficult about sand blasting an empty IEM case before assembly but whatever. Maybe theyre over complicating the process to achieve the result.

[@ryanbrickey843]

Carmine, thinking about Aria and oh10 today. Is there a huge difference and is it worth it? I listen to mostly EDM and reggae. Cheers

[@carminedesanto6746]

@@ryanbrickey843 for budget..Aria If you can swing it ..OH10’s are phenomenal. 🍻

[@matteomartignani5236]

Dear Dave, first of all thank you for your videos, which I follow and listen to with interest. I'm new to the HiFi world, and I'm looking for a great IEM for a special gift. I've read a lot and listened to many opinions, and I've come to a crossroads. On the one hand the Kato, on the other the Letshuoer S12 Pro. Now I know that they have different technicalities, but I'm looking for something quite neutral, perhaps with a small prevalence of bass (electronic music) but at the same time as rich as possible in definition and soundstage. Can you give me advice based on your experience? Which of the two do you think would be closer to those characteristics? I was initially oriented towards the S12 Pro, but more and more often I come across conflicting opinions on the trebles being too pushed, and the mids that remain a bit hidden as well as the vocals in the S12 Pro. Any suggestions from you would be a great help to me. I think I'll drive them with a FiiO Q3 MQA. A thousand thanks

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Moondrop Kato is more natural and less pushed in the uppers, the S12 can be aggressive and fatiguing.

[@itsbaekhyun8977]

Have you tried 1more triple driver? Wanna upgrade to Kato but still have no clue whether it is an upgrade or not.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I haven't heard the 1More Triple Driver IEM, sorry.

[@keithy5020]

Good evening Dave, hope you’re doing well! Thanks for your honest reviews and content! Any chance you could provide your thoughts on the Kato vs your previously reviewed ER2XR? Worth the $100 price difference sonically?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

ER2KR has more forward mids, intimate stage width. Kato has little more detail retrieval and resolution, slightly more bass impact, is more controlled with treble, has wider stage, deeper depth and little better layering. Fit is more normal for the Kato.

[@keithy5020]

@@TheHonestAudiophile appreciate you sir. Thank you for the insight.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

My pleasure, you're welcome.

[@rienemichaeljoshabagat2345]

Which one do you recommend? The timless or the kato? If im only listening to anime songs or like jpop, which one would be a better iem for me? Im gonna be using it only with my phone.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Moondrop Kato

[@rienemichaeljoshabagat2345]

@@TheHonestAudiophile okay thanks i will buy one and its going to be my 2nd iem

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@JoshAbagat]

@@TheHonestAudiophile i received my moondrop kato last august and im loving it. I dont have any issues so far and it is a good upgrade from shure se215. I hope this will last me more than 5 years because my shure is more than 7 years now and its still working.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@JoshAbagat awesome 😎 Glad you enjoy the Kato.

[@dmora2386]

Random comment I'm listening to this with salnotes zeros and just caught myself going, wow this dude literally sounds like were in the same room. Thays a testament to the salnotes zero clarity and the quality of the upload itself.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Thank you for the kind words. Salnotes Zero a great value IEM for sure.

[@AlexandreDiLolli]

Just bought the Kato on your recommendation, I originally wanted the Variations but I changed my mind after watching your review.

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Look forward to hearing your impressions.

[@will2.0nah73]

There is a matte finish that should fix the fingeprints issues

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

That would be cool 💓

[@Assimilator702]

The guys at Moondrop said the matte finish will be available for a limited time.

[@will2.0nah73]

@@Assimilator702 that's a shame😔

[@fador1337]

They said they had issues with the matte finish so they won't be making more.

[@RefRMart10]

Which one would be better for drummers??

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

CTM CE110 is my recommendation for drummers. But between Timeless and Kato, I'd pick the Kato.

[@RefRMart10]

@@TheHonestAudiophile I’ll checkout the CTM’s. Thanks for your honesty!!!

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

@@RefRMart10 my pleasure, you're welcome

[@oolnairda]

Hi Dave. I agree Kato is slightly lacking on the sparkle. Will Oxygen be a better option on the treble region?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Sorry I haven't heard the Oxygen.

[@carminedesanto6746]

Got the Moondrop KATO for my wife for Christmas 🥳

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Awesomeness, Great gift 🎁

[@carminedesanto6746]

@@TheHonestAudiophile Well, I just introduced her to the Moondrop Aria..and she likes them..so it seemed like the logical thing to do. I hope you and yours have a safe, and music filled Christmas season 🎄🍻

[@loginer799]

Hello, I want to buy my first Iem headphones and the choice fell on moondrop kato and 7hz timeless. I love female vocals and listen to kpop and jpop. I want the headphones to work well from the phone. And I wanted to know if they would be the best of my soundcore liberty 4 in terms of detail

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

I would go with the Moondrop Kato.

[@cdotwu]

How does the Kato compare to something like the FIIO FH3 or IE 300?

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnioiaB7bJVjZ9U FH3 is boring and isn't as detailed or resolving and has slightly less accurate tone and timbre.

[@MrLimaify]

Can't decide Kato or Timeless? Hmmm heeeelp :)

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Kato is a little more fun leaning and Timeless is a little more business leaning.

[@MrLimaify]

@@TheHonestAudiophile thanks! Which one is smoother, warmer? I like non fatiguing sound

[@TheHonestAudiophile]

Moondrop Kato

[@Graciashauf]

@@TheHonestAudiophile my MSR7B can get fatiguing so i like that a lot.

[@Nashness]

Great review!

[@rodolfovidal1173]

Great review!