The Last of Us Episode 9 *YOU* "Look for the Light", I'm looking for my inhaler (Non-Gamer REACTION)

[@Roblvsall2004]

It was very creative for them to cast the woman who voiced Ellie in the game as Ellie's mom. She "gave birth" to Ellie (her voice) in the game and then literally in the opening!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks, Robert! Very cool. I was impressed and grateful that they gave the game actors their due in the show, even thought I didn't know until after the episodes. Such a great series!

[@toukie]

one thing you said about Joel, about how he doesn't do back and forths for 6 minutes, he just shoots... He tried to do the talking... back when the outbreak happened... and because he tried to do the talking, he lost Sarah. He's done talking.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Ohhhhh gooooooddddd point!!!!!!!! Very, very true.

[@Blaskor314]

Marlene specifically told Joel they did NOT tell Ellie she was going to die. Ellie didn't get a choice either way.

[@DavidvsFilm]

True! But see, I just don't know if I even trust her with what she says to Joel. Or just in general. I need more Marlene character development. If we'd never seen her again after Ep. 1, I perhaps would have been less conflicted. Thanks though, Robert!!! I appreciate your thoughts.

[@Blaskor314]

@@DavidvsFilm Marlene could have lied and said the procedure was complete already and the Ellie had died. I think her saying she 'owed' him compelled her to tell the truth. The dumb part is she knew what Joel was capable of. I don't think she realized Joel & Ellie's relationship had changed.

[@morothane1]

@@Blaskor314 I remember offhand that Marlene made a comment about how Joel has become attached to her. It’s probably why she expected Joel to not care about Ellie and allow the procedure to continue. It’s probably why she was honest upfront about the procedure, never expecting what she knew Joel was capable of to actually come forth lol. Could be wrong though, and either way your point remains valid.

[@uriviashi]

​​@@Blaskor314 Fan theories have always pointed to Marlene not knowing just how close Joel and Ellie have become, and that's why she told him plus the fact that she felt like she owed him. But there's also this theory that many players believe which was; Marlene being just another example of the humanity inside you seeking for relief. She knew what she was doing was wrong (but necessary) in her heart and thought Joel was the one person who could understand her, or at least understand why it felt so wrong. She said "I have no other choice" while Joel said "I do". She even went out her way to explain to him why Ellie was so important to her and why she was suffering too. There's no way she didn't think they would have gotten close to each other after so long and after seeing them without Tess who she probably knew Joel was really close to. So it's this conflict within her trying to explain and unconsciously excuse herself (most likely she herself didn't even realize what would telling him bring up) with the only person apart from herself who knew Ellie at least a little more than the rest of the world did. What she did was an irrational thing, a human thing. Brought up by guilt and shame, she even looks nervous and anxious about it. She clearly didn't want Joel to do what he did and she still let the truth out because she knew other people couldn't understand what Ellie dying means. There's no way it was a rational choice. For the rest of the fireflies she's probably just a girl who has a deep connection with Marlene but apart from her name and maybe a little bit of her background they don't know her and had not spent time with her like Joel and Marlene did.

[@Rees2005]

Little Bear and Oberyn Martel have great chemistry...they are family now. 😄😄Wonder how long we have to wait until season two!🤔

[@DavidvsFilm]

These days? 3 years. lol

[@shakycam3]

I love how the first episode is called “When you are lost in the darkness” and this one is called “Look for the light” because Joel finally found it. Also, as much as everyone loves Joel never forget he is an absolutely brutal bastard. His decisions destroy lives. And that stems from how broken he is.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Great point, Aaron!!! I hadn't even considered the bookended nature of the first and last episode titles. You guys are so observant! Sometimes I feel like I am the dumbest person on this channel. lol

[@Pandaemoni]

I also like that this episode is called "Look to the Light" when the Fireflies are basically all bleeding out or dead, at least in SLC, and humanity now has no hope and faces possble extinction as canned food turns inedible, more QZs fall over time, Kansas City is now overrun with infected, and the ending is, per episode 1, "We lose."

[@TheBearAspirin]

At the beginning of the episode, Anna lies to keep Ellie alive. At the end of the episode, Joel lies to keep Ellie alive. 🦒 And OG Ellie Ashley Johnson giving birth to new Ellie Bella Ramsey is the chef's kiss Druckmann and Mazin gave to the game fans.

[@stephaniel2850]

Anna would 100% be eternally grateful to Joel for what he did for Ellie 💛

[@DavidvsFilm]

Very true!

[@sarahe1491]

Obsessed with this show. Amazing finale. Loved watching this with you! Can't wait for season 2!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks, Sarah!! :) Same. I'll just be sitting here lol

[@RuralRoar]

It's been great to watch this for the first time with you, David. I can't wait to see where this series goes.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks, my friend!! Yeah, we'll find out in 12-48 months! ;)

[@MarcusIaoFong]

Some people complained the show didn’t have enough zombies and actions. In fact, they forget that the main theme of the Last of Us Part 1 is ‘Love’. The show definitely aligned with the theme. As we can see all different storylines of different characters in the show were based on different kinds of ‘Love’, I think the show really did a great job on that. Part2 on the other hand is about ‘Hatred’ so we will see how it will turn out.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Oh Lord, well I'm worried about Part 2 now lol. Point taken about the zombies action and love, but I guess for someone like me who really didn't know anything, and how heavily they leaned on the infected attacks/threats in the first episodes, I mistook that as the kind of show it was going to be.

[@Rees2005]

The show starts off with Joel saying that Ellie is cargo NOT family and that the discussion of his daughter is OFF limits. It ends with Joel adopting Little Bear as his own and is open and even conversational about his deceased daughter. Talk about relationship growth!!!!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yes!! I loved that :)

[@lynnhettrick7588]

This series has cemented my adoration of Pedro. He first caught my eye in GoT. I'm so happy for his success!

[@TheBre0523]

Anna said take her give her to someone who would take care of her and PROTECT her and thats what she did she unconsciously but she still did now joel AND Tommy will protect her and love her unconditionally and the same will go for ellie in season 2 her love for them in game 2 is so unconditional

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yeah, true! Honestly I will be glad to see more of Joel and Tommy. And of the town too! I feel like television shows and movies that feature small towns in snowy settings have the best drama lol

[@user-jt1js5mr3f]

As a huge fan of both games, they did a great job with the show. I have a few issues or preferences here or there, but overall they did a great job. Such a complicated ending that's worth debating. Honestly, that's what I love about both Parts, they encourage discussion and challenge our comforts and ideals. The end of the world isn't a happy place, but there are definitely pockets of beauty and hope.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks, M!! YES, great point. I often forget that I'm bringing my "non-Cordyceps-I'm-safe-at-home-watching-tv" judgment to these characters and their actions. You know me, just shooting off at the mouth lol. I'm also conflicted about the pacing. On one hand, I loved the speedy pace, often filled with a good amount of action. But then I also really appreciate the payoff that slow-burn shows like Breaking Bad can deliver. Bottom line, this was an amazing first season of a show that I had no prior investment in, and I cannot wait to get more!

[@Tensolin01]

Marlene tells Joel they didn’t tell Ellie. They drugged her probably after giving her something to drink, she describes being with the Fireflys then trails off because she doesn’t remember anything after.

[@DavidvsFilm]

True, true..

[@dimitrisgial7804]

Just in case you didn't know: the actress who plays Elie's Mother in this episode( Ashley Johnson), is the same person that plays Elie in the game. Wich i think was a really cool idea to give her that role in the show!

[@Rees2005]

I was gonna share the same thing.☺

[@DavidvsFilm]

Oh really?? That's awesome!! I was wondering because I knew that every other game actor (I think) had been "represented" by now in an episode. And isn't Marlene the same Marlene in the game? I think I had heard that, but I could be wrong.

[@dimitrisgial7804]

@@DavidvsFilm indeed. She is the same person that plays Marleen in the game! Was really cool (as a person who has played the game several times) to see so many of the actors that where involved in the game, be part of the show! And have to say as well, that it was a blast whatching you react to the whole thing! You make great reaction videos in general!

[@DavidvsFilm]

@@dimitrisgial7804 Thank you so much!! That means a lot. And yeah, I realize it would have been difficult to do so given the settings and circumstances, but I would have liked to have seen more of Marlene. I was kinda hard on her, but I feel like if I knew more about her, my opinion may change.

[@dimitrisgial7804]

@@DavidvsFilm I feel like that was the point of her character; a person that closes off her emotions, in order to focus on the bigger picture: to cure all of humanity

[@brandismith2968]

Me and my husband had the consent conversation after this episode. We both agreed that Ellie should have been told she was going to have to die and that she needed parental consent (help with the decision making) before the surgery. I said Joel is her parental consent but my husband said it was Marlene because the mother gave Ellie to Marlene to take care of. But then Marlene gave her up to Joel (but she is just cargo). We both agreed that Ellie had no idea she was going to have to die for a cure to be made because she thought she could cure Sam with just her blood. Joel even said it was more complicated than that.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Ooooooh that's tough. You have me thinking now about who the "true" guardian should be. Wow, that's trickier than I would have thought, if I take my own preferences and emotion out of it. I'm so used to living in this current environment of family law, my default is to use that language of "what's in the best interest of the child"; if that's the case, I would say Joel. His concern is for Ellie and Ellie alone. Marlene is looking out for the greater whole. And while that's admirable, if we're limiting it to an argument about who should be guardian of Ellie, then yeah, I'd have to say Joel.

[@gailseatonhumbert]

@@DavidvsFilm not really Marlene did not spend time with or raise Ellie she has no parental relationship and is going against Ellie's mother's wishes.

[@brandismith2968]

@@DavidvsFilm after I posted this I also thought that Ellie is of ago so can she decide for herself who her guardian would be??? In a post apocalyptic world who knows how these thing would work when children survive and parents are lost.

[@woeshaling6421]

if it was sarah instead of ellie, there would be no question. setting it between an orphan and a parent who lost a child, puts enough seperation which makes the choice much more nuanced and dramatic. a clear resolution would have made this story unremarkable. it was imperative that they were strangers.

[@jonw8694]

Your reaction when the episode abruptly ended was the same reaction when the game ended when I first played it. It cut to credits in exactly the same way....but then gamers had to wait 7 years to see what happened next.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Haha, well don't speak too soon- the way they roll out some seasons these days, it may be 7 years before Season 2 as well ;) Thanks, Jon W!

[@ZS-dr7bi]

Oh my god. I've been waiting for this reaction. Joel goes John Wick mode in this one

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks Z S! And fOR REAL!!! Joel only cares about one thing at this point, and God help anyone who gets in the way.

[@Irish_Reviewer]

I also found it so poetic that Anna, Ellie’s mom in the show is played by the voice actor of Ellie in the game !!

[@randeecarreno4289]

Great reaction! 😊 I ended up enjoying this series more than I thought I would. In the beginning, I was just tuning in because Pedro Pascal was in it. And I ended up enjoying the whole thing. Fun Fact: Ashley Johnson, who plays Ellie's mom in this episode was the voice of Ellie in the game. I know of one thing that happens in Part 2 of the game. And I can't wait to see how it's going to be handled in season 2. I've heard that season 2 might be broken up into two parts. HBO knows that they have a hit show on their hands. I've really enjoyed watching this show with you. A movie & follow-up series recommendation for you and Marc: The Karate Kid movie trilogy followed by the Netflix follow-up series Cobra Kai. I think that you and Marc would both really enjoy those movies and series. Looking forward to your next reaction. 😊

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thank you so much, Randee! Yeah, so with Karate Kid, I agree that would be a GREAT one. I have only seen the first movie, and I'm not sure if Marc has seen any. I have heard really positive things about Cobra Kai, too. "HBO knows they have a hit show on their hands" EXACTLY. The breakneck speed of season 1 will probably now be replaced with, "Season 2 Episode 1: Saturday morning; Season 2 Episode 9: Still Saturday, but later.."

[@a.girl.has.no.name_]

Bravo David! Loved watching along with you this season! Youre hilarious and just a beautiful soul - keep it up!! You have gained a Patreon 😊

[@DavidvsFilm]

Aww thank you so much!! What's your name on Patreon so I can look you up? And if it's your real name, and you don't want to list it here, just send me a shout out on the Patreon messages section- that's private :)

[@laaaamija]

I loved watching this show with you and I loved your reactions..I played the game (both parts) and this whole story is still the most beautiful storyline I've ever experienced. It's so unique and it has flips and turns you don't expect coming. And the show...man they did an amazing job with it..I've cried every single episode even when I knew what's coming up. P.S. The actress(Ashley Johnson)who plays Ellie's mom is the OG Ellie from the game. I loved that they included her!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thank you!!! I'm so glad when you comment and we get a chance to chat. Really appreciate you watching the reactions. And yeah! So I've heard that by now but did NOT recognize her at the time. It's funny because I knew her from when I was a kid watching Growing Pains. Ironically, if memory serves, she had the same kind of "kid nasaly voice" that Bella Ramsey has.

[@laaaamija]

@David vs. Film People were doubting Bella when she was cast but I knew she would do an amazing job! She nailed the role and I have yet to see a person who is disappointed by her acting. And when I saw Ashley in this episode..oh my God, she looked so much like Bella!! And it fits perfectly! I'm so excited for the 2nd season and everything that's coming up and of course your reactions!!

[@Irish_Reviewer]

Absolutely loved the show ! Can’t wait for S2, it was like 95% game accurate AND they said that the second game will be 2+ seasons of content because the first game is like 11 hours to play and the second was like 23-25 odd hours hahaha only critique is a bit more action and infected, and get the spooky tone from the infected at the start back but other than that I LOVED IT and I am glad you enjoyed it too !

[@DavidvsFilm]

Unsurprisingly, I 100% agree with your thoughts on the show. :) I wish I could play the game, but I just know it will lead me down a dark rabbit hole of no self-control. And that would be the end of my channel because I will be gaming all day lol. (so it would actually become a gaming channel, I guess)

[@BirchLeafPhotography]

I've enjoyed your reaction as another non-gamer. One of the characters from the game that I would have liked to have seen was the original Tess, Annie Wersching. She sadly passed just a couple of months ago from cancer. She was a fantastic character actress from 24, Timeless, Star Trek Picard, and Runaways. I absolutely loved her and it would have been neat to see her. Also, the original Ellie, Ashley Johnson, and Bella Ramsy look a lot alike in real life. Nice little coincidence that adds to the mother-daughter story. Great reaction!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate you checking out the videos. Yeah, I saw a headline or link or something that read "Tess Actress Succumbs to Cancer", and I immediately clicked because I thought it was tv show Tess. Obviously wasn't, but still so so sad. And with Ashley Johnson it's funny because they do look alike, yes, but also I remember her when she was a little girl on Growing Pains back in the day. She kinda sounded like Bella Ramsey too at that age.

[@lostheroes87]

You had such great reaction videos to all of these episodes! It's going to be hard to wait until (hopefully) 2024 for the next season. FYI, I read that even though HBO Max hasn't renewed any season beyond season 2 yet, the creators are saying that TLOU Part 2 will be spread out over multiple seasons. But I really can't see them not renewing beyond season 2 at this point considering how many viewers the show had.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thank you, Jane!!! Oh yeah, I struggle to think of a time when a show was this popular this fast and only ran for 2 seasons. I'm sure there's one or two that I could be forgetting, but they'd have to really crash and burn in the 2nd season to not go further.

[@chimaxx]

@@DavidvsFilm The second game is about three times as long as the first game. Craig Mazin has already said that the second game will take up more than one season. Hopefully they have a private commitment from HBO for two more seasons, so they can do the full story of game 2.

[@SarahMBreaux]

I loved that the voice of Ellie on the game became her mom on the game.... ❤❤

[@SteveBonario]

"that is one aggressive Avon lady" -- LOLOLOL!

[@DavidvsFilm]

She's killing it in moisturizer sales right now. ;)

[@JTMason001]

I’ve never played the game so I don’t know what happens next but it makes me nervous that he lied to her. Even though his intentions towards saving Ellie were good. But I also don’t feel bad for Marlene, if she did NOT tell Ellie what would happen. But even if she did tell Ellie - I don’t think she’d want to DIE and never see Joel again in that WAY? Without saying goodbye? Such a fantastic finale! ❤

[@lynnhettrick7588]

I'm worried about when Ellie finds out for sure that Joel lied. I don't want their relationship messed up.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Totally agree! And YEAH! That's a great point about how even IF she's telling the truth and Ellie agreed, Ellie wouldn't insist on saying goodbye and thanking Joel, etc. GREAT POINT

[@frankmahovlich5099]

I hope the show's top notch writing and production continues as I'm sure your superb reactions will. It's been fun watching along with you and hearing your witty quips. Looking forward to next season of TLOU; now I need to check out your movie reactions. 😉🌈

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks so much, Frank!! I really appreciate that :) Oh you KNOW after the hit popularity of this season, that budget won't go anywhere but up lol. I assume they will have only the best at their disposal.

[@DarkLlyzzard]

I have some fun info for you David. I was born and currently live in Ogden which is only a 30 minute drive from Salt Lake City. One of our favorite places to visit has always been Hogle Zoo in Salt Lake City. With that in mind, the giraffe scene is particularly moving for me because I can imagine the giraffes escaping from our Zoo and wandering down from the foothill location to the city to hang out. 😍 It has been sooo awesome to watch you react to this amazing story!!! I can't wait for season 2. Of course, you could find out what happens next by playing the second game. 😉

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thank you so so much for sharing this, @Elizabeth Edlefsen! Hands down one of my absolute favorite things about doing this channel is getting to hear anecdotes like yours :) Similar on this end- I can only imagine the giraffes getting out and wandering into downtown Houston (though still wouldn't be the craziest things you see downtown lol). I am going to white knuckling it until season 2!

[@KatiesGoldenDust]

Another series down! It was great getting to see your reaction to it. This game is easily one of my favorites, and I'm so happy the show did great justice adapting it. I still haven't forgiven anyone involved with the movie Ella Enchanted for absolutely massacring my favorite childhood book haha. Excited to see what you react to next!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hahahaha you sound so much like me with your Ella Enchanted jab. Marc can tell you that I never forget. Ever. lol

[@KatiesGoldenDust]

@@DavidvsFilm I knew there was a reason I liked you! 😂

[@darthphayde508]

Good first season for sure, now we'll probably have to wait 2+ years for the next one. There were definitely a lot of scenarios in the show where I wondered if I'd have the stones to make some of those tough decisions.

[@muldoone6920]

That Giraffe? It's a real Giraffe

[@DavidvsFilm]

Really?? Well I mean, I can tell he's a gifted actor. No lines, but he definitely had his marks down. ;)

[@MsKimifer]

I didn't know what I was getting into when I started watching this show. The biggest thing I'm taking away from it is my newly discovered daddy issues. Thanks, Pedro.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hahahaha girrrrrl I hope he used some of his Last of Us money to buy a big house, because his days of going out on the streets are over lol

[@gundamgunpla4685]

I live where some of these mountain scenes were shot! :) Waterton, AB

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yes!!! I am a nature lover, especially mountainous landscapes like that. I gotta get up there.

[@gundamgunpla4685]

@@DavidvsFilm I highly recommend Alberta where this show was filmed. I have lived from Northern to Southern Alberta and its all beautiful, however if you get a chance to go to Chateau Lake Louise I HIGHLY recommend it. A castle in the mountains by a lake that has the best food youll taste.

[@DavidvsFilm]

@@gundamgunpla4685 Thanks Dawson! I have heard about how amazing Chateau Lake Louise is, and I’ve of course seen the iconic photos of the water surrounded by the mountains. But I DIDN’T know about the food! Even better. :)

[@gundamgunpla4685]

@@DavidvsFilm You should definitely check it out, and if you can get one of their rooms they are so nice!

[@RCanadian]

It was good watching your reaction. Yes, Alberta is pretty.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks, Bob!! Alberta was the most "beautiful" character in the whole season lol. I hope they are prepared for an increase in tourism.

[@lizmagu3189]

Realtor on House Hunters: This is a farmhouse on 50 acres. Needs a little TLC. Prospective buyer: Does it have a dedicated office?? 🙄🤣 Anyhow, now that you're done with this season you should go back and watch the aftershow to each. As usual another great reaction.. 👍

[@DavidvsFilm]

OH yes! I plan to. And lol!! "I just got bitten and only have 8 hours to live. My husband plays the banjo. Our budget is $3 million dollars."

[@lizmagu3189]

@@DavidvsFilm LMFAO!!!! RIGHT?! 🤔

[@emiliabedelia8906]

Didn’t play the game, and as frustrating as it can be, I loved that the end is somewhat open ended for interpretation of whether it’s happy or not. It’s all perspective. Fireflies want to save the greater population (possibly their own families), but Joel wants to save his family (Ellie). I don’t think anyone can blame a parent for wanting to not sacrifice their kid, but that is the morale dilemma. Also, I think it comes to choice. Ellie wouldn’t be stressed and not feel anything, but she didn’t have the agency to make her own bodily decision to take that risk. The philosophy major in me can just think of so many angles which I love.

[@DavidvsFilm]

You know what, that's actually a really great point about the Fireflies' families. I tend to think of them as just a large group of individuals, but you're totally right- I'm sure several of them did have families that they want to protect.

[@skatecats92]

Fun fact. The pregnant lady at the beginning plays Ellie in the games!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yeah, that's pretty cool! Thanks Noah

[@montego2]

"Is Marlene all right?" "Um, she's great! She's gone to a farm upstate where she can run around to her heart's content..." I side with those insisting that they should have gotten Ellie's EXPLICIT consent for the operation (assuming Marlene told the truth that she wasn't informed). And THEN allowed Ellie a chance to speak to Joel about her choice if she accepted. OTOH, the way things actually went down were in keeping with how I see those involved. There's a certain arrogance about the Fireflies that would lead them just to do what they think is best. Also, what if they gave Ellie the choice and she said no?

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hahahaha a farm.. yeah, I wish we got to see a little more of the Fireflies. I really thought they were going to figure more heavily into the story. Seeing them and meeting them, I mean.

[@MudbloodGamer76]

What's to come David is the Second Game, because this is how the First Game Ended, Loved this series, wish they would have stretched out more seasons to just the first game, because if the rest is going to take from the second game ugh, I didn't like the second game, hope they make the show better, glad you enjoyed it.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hello my friend!!! Yeah, I don't know about the games (people have been really great about not spoiling things), but I REALLY hope that the show runners really listen to the feedback and make good choices for season 2. I trust them. for now. lol

[@sarah.the.clumsy]

Post apocalyptic realtor as they enter wyoming: sure there's a fungus problem and the neighbors are a little odd, but look at the location! Can't beat that!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hahaha exactly. Bonus: Walk-in closets!

[@Montcoshire]

Marlene is $h!t. She did not give Ellie a choice. She completely dismissed any relationship that developed between Ellie and Joel over their journey. And, she didn't pay Joel; just sending him off with his backpack and a knife. I'm upset with Joel for lying to Ellie. I'm hoping he comes clean once they settle down at the Jackson compound. Either way, I think it may come back to bite him.

[@DavidvsFilm]

"back to bite him" - pun intended lol. I loved your comment from the first sentence! definitely grabbed my attention. And yeah, I am eager to see how long we go into season 2 before Joel's lies come to light. I mean my take on it is that somehow she already knows, but I guess we'll see.

[@peterengelen2794]

What about that actress who played ''Ellie's'' mom, looks exactly like her?! Perfect casting! And indeed, episode 3 was one of the greatest tv shows episodes I've ever seen.

[@stephaniel2850]

Such a brilliant stroke of luck that that's Ashley Johnson, the OG Ellie from the games, and she and Bella just happened to look so much alike that it worked perfectly for her to play her mom! 💛

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yes!!! So so true.

[@mythosinmedia]

David looks extra cute in this video, not sure if it's the beard that looks fuller. When he went "Wassup?" I was like "Wassup daddy?" Lol Love this channel and his reactions. So, to put it in perspective, the game ended exactly like this and we had to wait 7 years to see what happened after. The worst is we didn't even know there was going to be a sequel and I'm pretty sure they didn't know either at first

[@DavidvsFilm]

Why thank you sir! For your thoughts on the game/series, of course of course ;)

[@mythosinmedia]

@@DavidvsFilm Thank you for responding. Love your reactions 😉

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thank YOU!! Have a great week.

[@emersonwilson21]

In this last episode. Video game Ellie played Ellie's mom

[@DavidvsFilm]

Nice touch, right?? I didn't know that at the time. Pretty cool.

[@Rees2005]

Tbh...I was a little let down with the finale. Can't quite put my finger on it but maybe I was needing more Fungipeople...the scary element(even though uninfected people are also scary). Empty Ellie is painful to watch but completely understandable...and I don't like Joel lying in the end or killing Marlene...but what was he to do? Ellie should be given the choice tho if she wants to have that surgery. Their growth has been enjoyable to watch...thanks David for the great reaction videos!!!☺💚

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hey my bestie from out Westie! So here are some of my more critical thoughts of the series, specifically the finale (as if 6 minutes of my tipsy ramblings at the end of the video weren't enough lol).. 40 minutes?? Really?? What is the rush? This is a show that (from what I understand) has spent $10M PER EPISODE. And while Lord knows I can't make a show that's better, where did $90MILLION dollars go?? Canadian taxes? Add at least 20 minutes to the SEASON FINALE. Show more infected. Add some scenes of Ellie as a little girl with Marlene so we get more on that character, maybe. I understand that shows of this popularity are in an impossible situation, because they'll never please everybody, but this did feel like just another episode, and kinda rushed at the end as well.

[@witchfromthenorth5294]

I might have a tiny crush on Pedro Pascal… that was a lie.. a might have a weird big time crush! Saw him on Graham Norton and guuuuuuuurl!!!!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hahahaha yes, I'm sure his security detail has increased like 200% in the last couple of years.

[@witchfromthenorth5294]

@@DavidvsFilm Well… darn it!! 😂😂

[@gailseatonhumbert]

It's an ethics exercise. He killed the doctor who was going to kill Ellie. He did not kill the nurses who were not armed. Maureen told him it was the doctor's "theory" they were going to use to kill Ellie. Ellie who among other things incredibly saved his life when he was stabbed. Neill Druckmann asked the game play testers if Joel made the right choice - people without children split 50-50 with kids 100% with Joel. It's pretty simple Ellie wasn't given a choice. They were going to kill her always for others benefit not hers. Standard situation ethics question they have been using since after WWII and the concentration camps. As for Joel killing everyone he is doing what special forces do, dissociate and carry out the mission. They are not people when he is doing that they are obstacles and targets on the way to the mission objective. It's ruthless but so is Maureen starting with using the flash bang device on him and the rifle butt to his head. Minor point Marlene didn't pay him for transporting Ellie. They would have killed him without any problem correct? so he does the same thing to them.

[@pennybleta9721]

Exactly this.

[@DavidvsFilm]

I've so appreciated your comments, Gail! I hope that you will still watch other videos of mine and let me know your thoughts :)

[@gailseatonhumbert]

@@DavidvsFilm thank you. I watch some things but not all. BTW I really liked The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent he did with Nicholas Cage. You and your partner might enjoy it. It's a comedy.

[@DavidvsFilm]

@@gailseatonhumbert Thank you! I remember when it came out, but honestly I heard very little about it. So it’s definitely ripe for a true clean reaction :) Thanks again!

[@TdScar]

All of us who don’t know assume there’s no way the lie won’t come out. Their relationship will no doubt be ruined. And it would’ve changed if he was honest at the beginning but now it’ll never recover. Because she knows he’s lying and she gave him another opportunity to be honest and he lied again. All of that time they spent together and fully trusted each other - gone

[@lynnhettrick7588]

I don't think this is spoiler.... . . . . I watched Sleepy Waffles' reaction to LoU S1E9 and accidentally got a spoiler about Part 2 of the game. Which I won't say. But then I saw an interview with the show writers (Craig?) and he said that they are not following Part 2 of the game yet. I guess Part 2 jumps ahead 5 years, so they're going to fill in those five years with new material.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Oh really? That's cool! And honestly kind of lines up with what I've heard some others say and some unavoidable headlines, so no worries on potential spoilers, Lynn! I know you have my back.

[@Rocco1332]

I love how they used the Ellie actress from the game as her mom. If it's simply her birth circumstances that led to immunity, then I find it hard to believe that she's the only one in the last 20 years. I'm not sure if her being quiet was her sensing her time with Joel was coming to an end, or the uncertainty of her mission finding resolution. I thought that there might be a chance she would have to die for the cure. Joel assulting through the Fireflies was interestingly done. The way it was shot glorified the intent and the mindset vs the violence. After Sam turned, and saving humanity became Ellie's mission, I think she would have chosen the sacrifice, if they had asked. Season 2 will be interesting. While I have enjoyed the pacing, I do think they needed more more Cordyceps, either this last episode or the one before. People seem like the worst thing in the world, almost like getting a cure isn't what's holding humanity back from rebuilding. Maybe that's really what they were going for. If there were a couple in between episodes for traveling and avoiding Cordyceps. Fedra hasnt seemed that badn we really never saw them being "evil." It's still in the top 3 for TV series. I think Andor and Hill House still edge it out.

[@user-jt1js5mr3f]

I think there's definitely a chance others have been born immune, but what a horrible environment for kids to grow up, so the chances are slim they'd ever make it to adulthood. Also, if anyone saw the bite they'd kill you. I think Ellie would have absolutely died for the cure. Especially knowing she could have saved Riley, Tess, and Sam. Joel and Marlene were both wrong for taking her choice, it's a messy situation. Joel knows it too, which is why he lied.

[@toukie]

I find it poetic that they got Ashley Johnson to give birth to Ellie

[@Rocco1332]

@M that's true about them not surviving or maybe not knowing they're immune because not bit yet. I wonder if she can pass it on to her children? If that is the case, then I want to see a real evil organization that has figured it out and is essentially breeding people who are immune.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yeah totally, @Jon Cohen, I also find it hard to believe that she is the only one. With regards to her choosing to sacrifice herself, I agree, but I still contend that is irrelevant in Joel's mind. I really do feel like he sees himself as a genuine father figure to her now, and she (even in the "ya grow up quicker" Cordyceps world) is not old enough to make that kind of decision yet. And he clearly sure as hell ain't gonna let anybody else make it for her either lol. In addition, as he said going back to Episode 2, he really doesn't even think it will work. I feel like he's a believer enough now to let them try, but only so long as no harm comes to her. I'm really interested to see where it goes from here.

[@user-jt1js5mr3f]

@@Rocco1332 oof, that feels inevitable. I’m curious if it would eventually lead to a gnarlier mutation

[@Loganaxne]

Excited for season 2. I really hope they continue to use the source material, but expand upon great themes and maybe use this show as an opportunity to reimagine some of the less liked parts of the games.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hey buddy! Yeah I think this is a great test season for them in so many ways. Hopefully the positive feedback they received for the moments when they went “off script” from the games will embolden them to expand the storylines and histories. Sky’s the limit with a quality show like this ;)

[@woeshaling6421]

this season is a string of trolley problems. the games fallout 1 and 2 played a lot with these types of problems. choosing between 2 groups who are neither wholly good or bad. that is why i love scifi writing: once the world changes, what remains of humanity? to the point of the show, every detail and every encounter is important for the final choice. joel needed to be a grieving parent, ellie needed to be an orphan. they needed to be strangers. every encounter shaped them and pays a heavy toll. even the way the story is told matters. because you follow joel, you will forgive, or at least justify, his ruthless actions. the finale offers no clear resolution, that would make the story unremarkable. it puts a mirror to the viewer and show the extent and limits of humanity. great writing

[@lynnhettrick7588]

This season has gone by so fast! I feel bereft without it, without Joel, without Ellie!

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yes!!! Snuck up on me!

[@OliverHollingdale]

I highly recommend in your own time watch the cutscenes from the Game, all done in motion capture and for me personally are far better executed than the show! Not to say the show has not done a decent attempt, they really toned down on the violence and infected sadly... And I warn you.. Last of us 2... is going to cause half the audience to give up on the second season as it did with the game due to a particular moment and a complete F U to the fans causing you to go all stockholm syndrome on a particular character... Lots to look forward too 😅

[@DavidvsFilm]

My man!! Thanks for the suggestion- I like that idea. I've seen them pop up on my KZbin feed, so I'll CAREFULLY check them out (making sure people don't throw 2nd season stuff in). Cant wait to watch YOUR movie!! I've been loving seeing all the behind the scenes on your Insta :) Hope y ou have a great weekend buddy

[@ItApproaches]

I noticed you never responded when I informed you that my book was live? Perhaps you lost interest lol.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Hey @It Approaches! No, not at all! I’m sorry- some weeks get crazier than others, and I don’t see some comments. Very interested! Send the info to my email please- [e-mail]. Send it now! 😉

[@ItApproaches]

@@DavidvsFilm Done. I did notice a typo on the description on amazon, so ignore that. I fixed that but that wont upate for a day or two lol.

[@strikkmoez]

Also... I wonder if Ellie understands that if Joel killed all the Fireflies to protect her, who won't he murder to do so? If the answer is "no limit" what sort of trouble is she bringing to Jackson (including Joel's own brother) if she walks in there with him and her infection? Troubling to contemplate.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Yeah, great point. I hadn't thought of that.

[@pennybleta9721]

I can tell you that if you will Ellie's not the one who is going to bring any trouble to Jackson. Someone else will and not because of Ellie's immunity. That's a secret only Joel, Tommy and Maria know for now and some years at least

[@DavidvsFilm]

@@pennybleta9721 This is exactly what I like to see- a teaser that piques my interest but doesn’t tread into spoiler territory. Thanks! :)

[@pennybleta9721]

@@DavidvsFilm 😂 No problem. I tried to answer without putting any spoilers or minimum if you'd like. I hope I did good. In all seriousness I didn't like some things in s2 in fact many things, but I can't wait to find out how they will adapt the second game even though I know the things I didn't like are going to be in it.

[@anamaldonado2336]

Thank you, i think the same she is not in the position to decie, she us a chuld with clear survible guilt and vulnerable, she was abour to beeaten snd raped They say mothers sre worse, i believe rhat.

[@js7733]

So weird to hear episodes you like or others like put me to sleep they were so boring and pointless. Episode 2 and 5 are the best even though 5 was slow for awhile. 1, 8, and 9 are second tier. Episode 3 could of been amazing full of laughs and epic action if they followed the game. The banter between bill and Ellie was legendary and like the infected the show eliminated it.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Totally. Different strokes for different folks right?

[@TomTomson81]

This episode began with a lie and ends with a lie. Both were done out of love. One was selfless, the other selfish. One served to protect Ellie, the other to maintain a relationship whose trust was destroyed in order to be able to continue to be a father to the new Sarah. Just my opinion and it's a long one. No one has to see it the same way. But I'm on Ellie's side even though I love Joel. However, many see and use Ellie's site only to the extent that it justifies Joel's actions. Maria said to Ellie: "Be careful who you put your faith in. The only people who can betray us are the one we trust." And that's exactly what Joel is doing here. Any parent would at least try the same and so would I (but I wouldn't have lied and I would bear the consequences). But Joel is not Ellie's father. He only considers himself to be so, but this is not based on reciprocity. For Ellie, Joel is her only friend and protector, but at eye level. And neither of them would change that. Ellie wouldn't limit her autonomy and independence and Joel wouldn't expect that from her. And then there would no longer be a relationship on the same level. In this respect, they have never called their relationship as father and daughter. Ellie also doesn't seem to like the fact that Joel constantly compares her to his daughter. This clearly comes through in addition to her depression. One really wait for the sentence from her "I'm not her, you know?". Ellie is like a replacement. In this respect, he never has the right to do what he has done, NOR DOES MARLENE. But both know the answer Ellie would give. Why did Joel lie to Ellie in the end? Because he actually knew better and still acted out of selfishness. Marlene, on the other hand, did not tell Ellie what they would do with her so as not to scare her unnecessarily. Marlene doesn't need Ellie's consent either, she would do it against Ellie's will for the world. Therefore, the argument that many bring that Marlene would be afraid Ellie would say "no" is nonsens. This is not decisive for her. Marlene is simply doing the same thing as the Fedra officer in episode 1 did with the infected boy. She also says this in this sense. We didn't tell her anything, she won't be feel fear. Marlene has another thing in common with Ellie. Ellie had to kill her girlfriend and for her it must all have some value. The same goes for Marlene. She had to kill her best friend and for both applies it must not have been in vain. Both lost their friends to the fungus, both had to end their lives. So yes, Marlene is the only one who understands Ellie very well and she knows what Ellie would have wanted. Joel knows that too. An important difference to the game is the feeling you had when you freed Ellie. In the game, on the way to Ellie, you felt like a hero saving your daughter. Here in the series it becomes clear that Joel is not a hero. Supported by the score. Joel is the one who wipes everyone out and extinguishes the hope of saving humanity. People who all just defended themselves here. Joel has not been attacked. He is the aggressor. I think it's good how this is presented here. How Joel is shown as he was for 20 years. Ruthless, unscrupulous, cold-blooded. And if for 20 years he had the reason to be like this so that his brother and Tess could survive, this is now replaced by selfishness. He has rolled through the hospital like a bulldozer. And that Ellie would have wanted this operation is not a question, after what she experienced and had to do. This was her chosen destiny after losing so many people to the fungus. She made a decision on the day Marlene told her about her imunity. Reinforced by the deaths of Riley and all after her. The first and only decision Ellie could ever make about her life. So far, others have always been determined over her live. Joel took that away from her. And not only that, he took away everything she fought for and what she went through. 3 weeks after Riley's death, which she had to cause, Marlene has given her a meaning that could have saved all humanity. Joel gave her a life with survivor guilt multiplied by all humanity. She has to live with the fact that all the people who died for her and will die in the future, died for nothing. Her mother, Riley, Sam and Henry, and if she finds out the truth one day, she will blame herself for the hospital carnage and Marlene's death. All died for her or because of her and all in vain. The argument Ellie is still a child and cannot make this decision is nonsense. Ellie hasn't been a child in her head for a long time. She lives in a world where you grow up quickly. She killed, saved lives, injured people, was almost r*p*d and chopped up. She has made mature decisions several times. The last of these was to stand against Joel and go on with a very grown-up reason. She is the only one who can and should make this decision about her life. Nobody needs to come with the reason that it was not certain that the operation would succeed and that a cure could be produced. Everyone involved believed in it, including Joel. The motives of the characters counts. People like to invent ways that the show or game didn't bring in to justify Joel's actions. In fact, the only thing Joel said was "find someone else". So if it were up to him, another child could die instead of Ellie. Joel has accepted that Ellie brings the cure to the world as a fact. And even if there were other immunes out there, Joel also killed probably the only brain surgeon with that kind of knowledge who could have done such an operation. That was a decision he was not allowed to make for Ellie. No matter if he feels that way, he is not her father. And because Joel knows all this, he ends up lying to Ellie. And Ellie already knows at the moment that he is lying, when she asks if Marlene is ok and he says nothing. She got the same answer when she asked if Joel had killed innocent people. He lies so that he can continue to be her Daddy without consequences for himself. So he takes another decision away from Ellie. Namely, whether she still wants to continue to be connected to him amicably, trustingly. But what is really bad is that when Ellie wants to say him for the first time how she feels, why she wanted to do this and for whom, he interrupted her, bombards her with platitudes and gives her advices that he himself has not followed. He interrupts her so that he does not have to listen any further, so that he can continue to justify his act for himself. She, on the other hand, can't have all his bullshit since the car anymore and finally interrupts him and makes him swear. Ellie's bullshit detector is unbearable. Nevertheless, she chooses him over his lies. He means the world to her and all she has is him. Her greatest fear of ending up alone certainly plays a role. They love each other and would do anything for each other. Or it is rather dependency. In any case, the long-built trust is now gone. The moment Joel swears is also the moment when Ellie knows she would have died in the hospital. I would like to point out a very interesting conversation that took place in the pilot episode between Tommy, Joel and Sarah. This was about love and dependence. Tommy comes into the kitchen and greets Joel and Sarah with a not so nice word. Sarah to Joel: "Oooh, he loves you" Joel: "He is dependent on me. It's not the same." Sarah: "I think it's the same" I think this conversation is very interesting in connection with the dynamic between Joel and Ellie. To what extent is this love. To what extent is it dependence. To what extent do the two things go together? And are Joel and Ellie even on the same page when it comes to that? Or confuse both love with dependence. I also find the conversation between Joel and Ellie questionable in which he tells her that he wanted to kill himself. The conversation itself was okay, but I don't think it's okay to tell her that she's the reason he sees life positively again. He puts even more pressure on Ellie. He made himself dependent on her existence and let her know that. That's not right. She now constantly has in her head how he will feel when she is away. Well, the authors of the game had not thought of a continuation of the game at that time. That's the advantage of the series. They can prepare much better for the upcoming season and thus make everything that comes in part 2 more comprehensible for everyone. This was an excellent but unfortunately much too short episode. The whole series was just great. I'm looking forward to the second season. Ellie not only has the knife from her mother, but also the jacket she lay in as a baby. The giraffe was real. Her name is Nabo or Nobu. Something like that. Ashley Johnson was Ellie's mother here. Quite poetic when Ellie gives birth to Ellie and both look similar. Laura Bailey the voice actor of Abby from TLOU2 was one of the assistant doctors. I've played both games together 20 times and I love them. I love this series. The best I've seen in a long time. I love Joel and Ellie. I feel the need to play again now with the knowledge of what is now added by the series.

[@DavidvsFilm]

Thanks so much, Coyote!! I really appreciate you taking the time to type out your thoughts on this. I read every word! Also well-done on playing both games *20 TIMES*!! That is commitment right there. I really appreciate again you putting some different perspectives out there for me to digest.