Davvy's DM Advice: Relationships

If you try to hold my hand, I will commit violence upon you.
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[@autumn1765]

"If you kiss in the game, you kiss in real life" is a golden line

[@jesusofsuburbia3675]

Imagine if the Dm hands out love interests to each party member. I hope that person is a good kisser XD

[@erikwilliams1562]

As one who ended up dating most of the people I flirted with at the table, I can confirm

[@SirKaibel]

I am making this a rule in my game

[@AlbertaGeek]

@@SirKaibel Pressuring people to kiss IRL just because their TTRPG characters did? Not cool. Opposite of cool. Actually creepy AF.

[@NathanielWinkelmann]

Line? That is not how you play?

[@HI-kb2cg]

Sounds like min maxing. Oh and we need to hear these horror stories. a new series called: the davvy chapters

[@DavvyChappy]

Holy shit that’s a good name

[@sawce846]

@@DavvyChappy you gotta do it now

[@averongodoffire8098]

@@DavvyChappy You know the rules and so do wi

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@DavvyChappy Promise you I'll watch, like, and comment for the mighty Algorithm gods if you do it.

[@lordfelidae4505]

GOOD NEWS! Your idea is being stolen! Yay!

[@brettonalwood4173]

This just goes to show that Davvy is not so much a Bard but a Archfey lord of Chaps.

[@AMPMASTER10]

Mr. XXXXFey guy might take an insult to it.

[@CarlosRodriguez-sv4wd]

Me and my girlfriend have played in several campaigns together and only once did it go further than fellow adventurers and it was more of a will they won’t they type of thing in the story that everyone had a real fun time with including us. Most important part of this video is the “don’t let anyone force you into a romantic relationship “ part, I’ve seen that before and it’s really creepy, sad, and uncomfortable. This was a great video

[@nebulaoshannessy6959]

Davvy, a known bard main, is giving out relationship advice? This is going to be.... interesting

[@ethanlocke3604]

Davvy’s relationship advice: dms

[@johannvongenerico9487]

"I think you're all gross creatures". I mean he's not wrong, I am exactly that

[@brendalee1215]

I like shipping my NPCs I still remember my dumb generic guard man saving the captured battle hardened pirate lady by getting a crit

[@UNSCMarine117]

And by shipped you mean shipped straight off to jail.

[@silverthedruid4754]

@@UNSCMarine117 ace vibes

[@UNSCMarine117]

@@silverthedruid4754 Funny enough I'm straight.

[@lordfelidae4505]

@@UNSCMarine117 …Integrity vibes?

[@Jagonistdai]

Damnit Davvy your cosmic disinterest just makes the gay tsundere in my heart even more interested!!

[@sledgehammerguy5858]

The poly relationship playing d&d with the power of love is prob one of the cutest things I've ever heard in relation to d&d

[@spiritandsteel]

Ikr? Also I wanted to like this comment but then I saw that it had 69 likes and I dare not disrupt that perfection. Nice.

[@anonymousfellow8879]

As someone on the aroace spectrum, these jokes are an absolute MOOD

[@toocoldforyouhere8353]

I could feel the aceness from over the room

[@anonymousfellow8879]

@@toocoldforyouhere8353 I mean, most of his jokes leaned more into aro than ace, but yes

[@iwantsleep8079]

“This is not my circus, and these are not my monkeys” had I watched this video two days earlier, this would’ve been my senior quote

[@godzilla660]

I once was starting to have a romance with an NPC and then another PC got the girl instead and after that I only romance the evil eldritch abominations.

[@DHTheAlaskan]

This is something I should learn. Just because I'm Acearo doesn't mean my character is.

[@williamwontiam3166]

While I normally play it the other way.

[@anonymousfellow8879]

A mood. Tho usually it’s writing aroace characters as being grey/demi or favorable. (I myself am closer to repulsed and only Neutral on a blue moon when the stars align during the autumn equinox and the planets are all in harmonic convergence.)

[@ragoth6207]

Had a campaign where the group humored me. See it all started with the divorce. One of the party members funded the divorce party. Two of the other party members we're basically pretending to be divorced when they are still married. Turned into a really wacky Romcom situation where divorcism ever present threat due to distress of adventuring.

[@milesgibson9555]

I can't tell if this is a joke or Davvy's an asexual king that I didn't know about

[@silverthedruid4754]

me neither, though not wanting to date seems more like an aro (aromantic) trait

[@gregvs.theworld451]

Hard to say. I thought he'd said he was gay in past videos, or otherwise was making very homoerotic jokes, but it could've just been funny/shocking innuendo joke goes here for entertainment purposes.

[@spidergirlfibula4663]

@@gregvs.theworld451 he has explicitly stated that he's gay as well

[@BrooklyKnight]

@@gregvs.theworld451 I mean one can be gay and aro but he's said he's gay so I guess he's gay lol

[@anonymousfellow8879]

Shockingly enough you can be gay, ace, and aro all at the same time. But y’know. I’m just *biaced* and *aro* on the side of caution

[@bskec2177]

Does the "hexesexual seduction coven" stream their games? I might want to watch that.

[@XDFFBXD]

Meanwhile in the D&D campaign I'm in my PC has a crush on the DMPC but he's as dense as an anime protagonist so it doesn't get in the way.

[@Arachobia]

A worrying amount of couples I've played games with have broken up

[@Fallenmonkd20]

The topic always has surprised me, nearly every game I've played in my wife was with me, and we have never dated/roleplayed relationships between our characters. We also aren't the biggest on PDA so that may be part of it

[@morganbiddlecom]

My partner and I are currently playing a retired married couple who are significantly older than the rest of the party and it's been really fun. I wouldn't want us to be young or new lovers in a game though. Bad enough our friends had to see that in real life a decade ago!

[@nickte2609]

Because you play Nathaniel, I do consider you at least some kind of genious Bannana wizard ftw

[@skyphlox193]

soooooo what i'm taking away from this is that the eldritch being of untold power who is davvy chappy... is aromantic

[@elsie8757]

"Sorry, I'm in a very committed relationship with the backlight of my phone" I'll have to remember that one!

[@jimbob1103]

The game I DM for 3/4 of the players really wanted to go to this brothel that was part of a catch a criminal story arc. It was supposed to have some of the criminal elements of the town that frequently came in standard stuff. Well instead of tracking down the criminals they decided to buy some time with the workers. Awkwardness was very high all around.

[@codystovall4302]

I knew there was a reason I kept this channel. Your euphemisms are on point dude

[@ikeekieeki]

"you're not a therapist and you're not being paid like one" is a good reminder

[@asher9407]

The ace energy is beautiful. Thanks for opening up about this

[@megachad9429]

This is my favourite Davvy Chappy video. I will now milk it for quotes no one else will understand, thank you.

[@A_Frog]

Frog approved

[@deadpoolj2278]

frogge

[@octo5042]

when you confess to your crush you like her and she says she doesn't feel the same, but then totally down if it's between our two characters 💀

[@Davx_87]

Nothing is wrong with kissin a homie.

[@thegamesthief]

I actually HAD a 4 person polycule (with myself included) make a D&D campaign! It was great! Polycule D&D is a different kind of D&D and I recommend it heartily

[@TDay-uk6dq]

i literally just got into one as a dmpc also don’t be a creep and try to force it

[@anonymousfellow8879]

The “try to force it” is honestly why I haven’t gotten up the nerve to try and find a group to play with via skype or zoom or discord.

[@kevinleroi6136]

Love and romance are such large, meaningful parts of life (and fantasy drama) that it seems like an oversight to omit it completely in cooperative storytelling. A plot that is driven by an NPC in love with another NPC gives motive to behaviour that otherwise would be hard to justify.

[@nitsanraviddaos4797]

Davvy Chappy: "boning moves the world" Asexuals: "ELDRITCH DIVINE OUTSIDERS"

[@sirloin869]

Your rage is close to my heart,the anger that were for miles...

[@anonymouskitten4715]

Either 1. Davvy is aro or 2. Fans started flirting with him and he’s just fucking done

[@anonymousfellow8879]

Honestly prolly both. In another video about relationships he gave me massive aroace vibes

[@mistresscroc]

I liked your in-person videos. It was refreshing from the images that sometimes add to the joke or the funny ones of dice being thrown at the DM. Maybe there is a balance you could do? I'm no video editor though, I'm just hear for you and your thoughts! Thanks for the videos.

[@leguan278]

Ohhh.. I thought you were going to talk navel combat and the relation between ships

[@seannotshawn3521]

Perfectly timed because my bard and my friend's rogue just had a drunken hook-up after the tension just got too much from a bunch of sessions.

[@varasatoshi3961]

3:22 is amazing advice for literally all game tables, not just ones with romantic subplots.

[@VenneltheGreat]

I feel like another issue about couples needs to be covered that wasn’t here: couples that are codependent. So when one can’t make it (or chooses to miss the session) the other also chooses to miss the session. And so now that’s two people that, if one gets sick or is too tired to work, or some other reason to miss the session, now two people are missing the session. And god help you if there’s a polycule at the table

[@OrbitalRose_01]

My D&D group has 2 couples out of character, two of our players date each other, and one of our players is dating the DM. In game, we've had a relationship between one of the players in the non-dm couple and an npc and they ended up getting married, and everything worked out great because we all are in this for The Roleplay and have good communication in group.

[@Sethar1234]

"And there's nothing more authoritative than a white guy on the internet." I cackled

[@OliverCovfefe]

I feel this episode emphasizes all the same things that are essential to every other video, but even more so: - Talk to your DM and group - Leave if people won't stop being rude - Do what you want so long as you're being respectful - Throw all of this away if it's not relevant to your particular game Even though you say it in every video, these really are the core stuff at any issues with DnD. A lot of people can just be talked to to fix whatever meta-problem is going on at the table, but some can't. And when the latter happens, something's gotta give, and either they leave, you leave, or someone remains miserable.

[@santiagonevarez410]

"Those statements will not stop me, I dont speak english" Some Forny motherhucker

[@thecamdough]

“Prolific players in a polyamorous relationship fighter their way across…” that’s just the whole CR cast isn’t it?

[@jamieolson4345]

Very important and excellent advice, Davvy. Thank you

[@TheMizuPanda]

This is fantastic advice. Excellent work.

[@s.beccari4678]

My party had a tiefling sleep with the yuan-ti and steal his soul... We Said sh got Snaids...

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

“My names Davvy and I hate everyone.” On a scale of 1 to Red Flag, how much should this be a mood?

[@flareinc7413]

"The Hexosexual Coven" sounds awesome. If they exist,I hope they play RPGs and have an awesome time.

[@donaldtruman7359]

I was in something similar for a couple years. It was good for a time, but IRL concerns and personality conflicts eventually pushed people apart.

[@AzraelThanatos]

Also with romance things in game, pay attention to context for the scenario. The way to much description in a hand holding scene reminded me of a game where a DM used that kind of thing as a part of the story in other ways. DM had us meeting a spy at a nobles party and gave us information on how to identify the spy...then the player was freaking out because "he didn't want to deal with romance" when one of the noble ladies was described with the specifics of how she was holding his hand during it. The DM was specifically describing the sign that was given to us earlier in it. He was ignoring the specifics for the obvious and completely missed that she was covertly giving the sign and waiting for the counter to pass information, he started flipping out about unwanted sexual attention while the rest of our characters weren't right by him and weren't going to directly say anything because our characters weren't there.

[@ATroknya]

A Bon Jovi reference?! Fuck yeah!

[@Shaymin0]

For me, relationships have destroyed more dnd games than otherwise. And sex scenes always turn out disgusting and make me uncomfortable. I 100% agree that you shouldn't subject yourself to a bad experience for the sake of dnd. And maybe as a dm I'd highly suggest talking to your players about the nature of a relationship in dnd. It can be really good if executed right. It builds strong character motivations and such. But player-to-player relationships are not a thing for me and my games. I would suggest avoiding it unless they have been partners for a long time and have a good understanding of the game.

[@somik-i3x]

I feel sex scene should be treated like in pg movie. Fade to black and maybe a discussion scene after that if the players want.

[@anonymousfellow8879]

Bit of foreplay, fade to black, then pillow talk. If the players want “more than that” either they go off and roleplay it away from the main group on a timer during a long rest or play somewhere else

[@jillianh7565]

To you, what would be an example of a relationship executed the right way?

[@AustinReginald]

I am married to the dm, I play a bard that falls in love easy, not a sexual person just loves to easily. My bard flirts and falls in love with npcs, but is in love with a player character. The guy who does the player character is also married (I am friends with the person he is married to) So it is pretty easy to separate my character emotions from myself. It also makes it easy when I am also flirting with my husband half the time. But everyone involved understands and is willing to drop things if they get weird or anything.

[@Soundwheeltuner]

Totally agree as someone who trades the dm position with their significant other. We're fair to the whole party mostly made of other couples and no one gets favoritism. Now I get to make inside jokes and have to group wonder what I'm talking about

[@LovingPrinceTamayuki]

*Saved to playlist*

[@jillianh7565]

I’m currently in a situation where my boyfriend is the DM but my character is having a relationship with another player's character. Basically my character a half elf cleric princess (Zelda) has caught the attention of Alexander Von Roeyen (the second and youngest brother to Strahd Von Zarovich and forgotten prince of Barovia). Alexander joined the party as a joke character nicknamed Alucard and through much character development and sticky situations has stepped into his role as the prince he was meant to be. Where Zelda comes in is she facilitated that change and became a close friend to Alexander, bringing out the best in him. He eventually started seeing Zelda as more than a friend and now is protecting her with every fiber of his being, especially from his older brother, who has been trying to kill the princess from day one. There is an inside joke that Zelda was able to tame 3 mentally unstable vampires and that’s true to an extent. Alexander is one of these vampires which makes the relationship nearly impossible given the prophecy our dm set up. In short we can’t develop a full relationship because I would be at risk of being turned or killed and I can’t use the Holy Symbol of Ravenkind if that happens.

[@WryAun]

I miss the Davvy face vlogs, they were great! Good stuff in here too!

[@elgringofeo9348]

Davy be like, no thors can be near me, I'm sigma male, I need to grind dnd builds and characters

[@jayteepodcast]

I just made a video about this. Some monsters use relationships as bait or a trap. And what makes relationships and romance weird at the table is when there is no intentions as a player. As Gms it's better for players to explain the intentions not the actions of their characters. Believe it or not some people marry because of happiness some money and some just because they thought it would bring both. Gms must focus on intentions of romance not the actions during the epilog of the story. If you flirt with the bar maid. Is it for information or just for character flaw but it should be explain and not acted. Telling the Dm " I flirt with the Bard maid to find information about the hag." Is a lot better than having the dm and player making Googoo eyes at each other for 20 minutes the sames goes for PCs who want to use intimidation and describe the gore in the details all we as players care about is the intentions of why are you doing it. To have someone not explain intentions give players at the table that creepy feeling because the unknown intentions is left to them

[@jayteepodcast]

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[@jacksonhughes8830]

Great energy in this video ! :D

[@djtigon]

THANK YOU! Go into a private space and scene fades to black. Ya'll want to rp that, have a side session AFTER THE GAME

[@hotchoco7234]

The quotes in this video are amazing

[@e1m0k44]

Every romantic relationship in my games has always been a PC to NPC. I don't say they cant do the PC & PC, but they find it more comfortable to rp that stuff with a npc then each other which I find a bit funny since npc's are just the DM's PC's lol.

[@rudimae2702]

My husband is my DM. He is well aware of my infatuation with Jason Momoa. My elven monk is now in a relationship with a human barbarian sidekick who just happens to be named Jason and is described to look like Mr. Momoa. She is now preggers. :)

[@FiveTen007]

Roll for for athletics and acrobatics, then roll for constitution.

[@Centuries_of_Nope]

I can't tell what Davvys vibe is, but I haven't seen this type of energy since the great Mollymauk Tealeaf. Long my he reign.

[@churchofapples8113]

You see, if you're playing a Yuan Ti your character CAN'T love... be a slithery boi

[@cultist1762]

I play D&D as a DM with my S.O. as a player. We're currently playing Curse of Strahd. S.O. was given plenty of options to get out of a situation that would have resulted in the characters death. They didn't sure they were bummed out when their character died but we talked before the game that at the game table they are just any other player no favoritism will be given. If you are playing with your partner just talk to them before the game even starts make things clear.

[@thegreyman1575]

Lemme hold ya hand Davvy, it’s been 3 days since my last fix

[@arnoldruva8225]

My rule is that when they wanna do the nasty is: 1) Roll performance see the roll make every take their own conclusions 2) Black screen is the next day

[@HipsterKhan]

I love you Davvy

[@Stan_Crimes]

Hhhmm it is kinda awkward when the DM has to roleplay as someone's love partner LOL!

[@Fuzzlekinz]

I've been rping with my husband for many years and even though we are very affectionate people, we both find it cringey to rp a relationship, so it's never been a problem.

[@genghiskhan6809]

As a DM, I’m horrible at PC NPC/DMPC relationships but strangely, I can run PC PC relationships impeccably.

[@jonathanrainer9600]

I LOST it at fothermuckers

[@Eramiserasmus]

A reminder that again, relationships should be added only if everyone agrees. Never let them shoehorn you into subplots.

[@nessesaryschoolthing]

"As far as I can gather, the ultimate goal is to find eternal happiness by matching your character traits with everyone else's until you find the match that's perfect for both of you and you can finally hang the DJ." Eh, I wouldn't go that far. At most it's more like trying to find SOME happiness by matching SOME of your character traits with SOMEONE else until you find the match that's GOOD for both of you. It's not that deep. It's like how you might fantasize about having that perfect bowl of ramen you've seen in an anime, but honestly you probably enjoy regular-old Top Ramen more because you grew up eating it and it's familiar to you. I think I came to this conclusion reading Wuthering Heights. Catherine 1 is in a love triangle with Edgar and Heathcliff. She admires Edgar for his qualities, for his traits, but she's far more attached to Heathcliff who's been her friend since childhood. Ultimately, while she tries to have it both ways, her love for Heathcliff is more significant and would have won out in ideal circumstances because love is not about traits or qualities, it's about connection. In this essay, I will-

[@NobodyDungeons]

Yeah the classic fade to black technique

[@MrHodoAstartes]

I have been part of a very cool game of heavily modded Lot5R (on a GURPS platform because the GM does not hate us enough to subject us to the native system) and the tragic love story of two player characters was integral to the plot as well as engaging to the whole party. It was legit "star-cross'd lovers, cherry blossoms everywhere, professions of eternal love and ready to jump on a sword at the drop of a hat" romance shit, and we ate it up. It was two straight guys, a liquor store clerk and a software developer from Hamburg, playing the most sincere love drama and nobody offered a peep of protest all the way. Meanwhile, my Unicorn-Clan ninja (tell me you didn't use Lot5R's native rule system without telling me) managed to bully a peasant boy who illegally trained sword fighting so hard in a sparring match he fell in love with her and became her student. So naturally he was disguised as a young nobleman at our conveniently distant court and later bullied into marriage for a laugh. It was a wild campaign and probably the most memorable the group has had.

[@lordfelidae4505]

Here is my method; provide options that would match the personality of the character and could make a compelling character arc. For example, I had a PC who was a secret rogue. She said she was a bard, but I’d roll her sneak attack behind the screen. The party had no healer, so I made a grave domain aasimar cleric who’s heritage and nature of their god was unknown to the players. The player of the rogue indicated interest in the cleric. Suddenly, BAM, character arc built upon the cleric revealing his angel buddy told him the rogue’s secret. When she got scared by that, he revealed his own secret heritage. The rogue took some time to collect herself and do some self reflection. Then a blast from the past showed up in the form of discovering the location of her lost home and missing parents. Unfortunately the campaign dissolved, but there was a lot of potential. The point is, make characters that could work well as love interests, but let the PCs make the first move, and focus on the character developments.

[@that_punk_fairy]

i am soon running a between clouds game where the party plays as a poly couple, so i am installing as many safety tools as possible. any other safety tools i should use?

[@aylardc]

Somehow it’s easier to accept that Davvy hates me than if he were just disappointed in me.

[@marcus4046]

Davvy isnt horny???? BUT YOU PLAY A BARD (EVERYTHING I KNOW IS A LIE THE FABRIC OF MY REALITY SLIPS AWAY LIKE PARCHMENT IN THE RIVER SEND HELP)

[@savasan1895]

Hey, a small critique. I think that this part of roleplaying needs to be always discussed at every single session 0 but I didn't like the start of the video and some stuff from the intro seemed a bit to stretch, but the ending is nice. Hope that this comment is helpful, because for me the video will be helpful for this forever DM.

[@jgr7487]

me as a DM in Session 0: "you guys can fuck, torture or do whichever sick thing you want, but only after it fades to black."

[@calebkopp7636]

Still one of my fav IC relationships I've had, at least romantic ones, was my character who was married to a celestial being. Best part was this interaction. Me, a Cleric: ok so we want the big guns against this guy right? Fighter, party leader: Sure. You got some blessing you just learned? Me: Naw I'm gonna go summon my wife. Give me like ten ish minutes. (OOC: DM I'd like Cast Summon Planar Ally.) Fighter:.... WHO DID YOU MARRY. Me: Someone who has a very busy schedule and loves her job, do you mind not interrupting!?

[@superhpfan00]

The only benefit to dating your dm is that he tries to make sure you can attend as many sessions as possible And he can be bribed with snacks and affection If your friend’s boyfriend is the dm, bribe the friend with snacks and watch the dm have a crisis bc of all the gay cuddling on the couch

[@xaviermantha63]

Thanks ofr the video.

[@woolsweater6489]

I have a perfect system that isn’t too much or isn’t too little. S*x = me saying “Dex and Con”. I ask for Dex and Con saving throws, for skill and time spent. Brilliant fun, everyone laughs, no one is uncomfortable. Just try to make it funny!

[@somik-i3x]

If your players are down with it, why not.

[@quinnparker6108]

Go ahead people. Tell him why bad dragon is wrong. That is… if you want to admit to knowing

[@anthonytorres-cruz1598]

Wow. I have my first date tonight at high school homecoming in real life. The timing of this video, dang.

[@kharijordan6426]

I wonder if this will be the last time hearing of this.

[@CheeseGuy-uc5or]

Just a reminder that the upside down cross is not anti christian at all. It's the cross of Saint Peter, who (When presented with execution) chose to be crucified upside down. He did this in reverence for Jesus Christ because he did not feel worthy enough to die in the same way that J man did

[@yourfavoritejegg]

:) You don’t have to say anything, but if you happen to be somewhere on the AroAce spectrum, that’s super valid!

[@nicolaezenoaga9756]

Thanks.

[@menagerie6694]

My half-elf is an archfey/glamour bard. She's a rich, single, independent woman, who needs no man. She's more interested in your gold pouch than your pants. This obviously doesn't stop players from attempting to hit on her. I had situations where I baited players into thinking I found them romantically attractive. We went on a few dates; it was sweet. I convinced them to watch me perform at a boujee tavern, got us a free luxurious room, gave them a marvelous lap dance w/ my 'enthralling performance,' got them drunk, roll'd for 'sleight of hands' to rob them in their sleep. Casted 'modify memory' when they came looking for me the next day. I swiped left on them like it was tinder. 💅💅

[@loft777]

What if the player is the one inflatuated with a npc??? Poor DM