Using A Cellphone Cooler On A CPU?

[@menhirmike]

That's a testament to power management/throttling in modern CPUs, we're long beyond the days of K6's and Cyrixes cooking themselves to death because of lack of built-in thermal management.

[@volvo09]

Yes, it has come a LONG way.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

While throttling is a bit more recent, even the K7 chips would turn off when getting too hot.

[@Drewtheelder]

A K6 was my first-ever build a long long time ago.

[@volvo09]

@@HappyBeezerStudios i can't recall exactly but I remember the first open die athlons being "targeted" for no thermal protection, or bad thermal protection. I believe outlets were yanking coolers off cpu's and sometimes the chip would die instead of turning off... With a fan failure it would survive since the temp rise was gradual, but abusing the chip with a sudden no cooler situation would kill them (or some of them). This was back in my dialup days reading overclocking and CPU stuff, I never tested it for myself, but I remember some outlet covering it.

[@Pasi123]

That reminds me of the famous Tom's Hardware CPU cooling video where the K7 Athlon burns itself

[@alltheotherhandlesaretaken]

Next year, we’ll see Intel and AMD including one in the box as a “stock cooler”

[@aerospherology2001]

shrinkflation

[@davidhines7592]

PLEASE NO. dont give them ideas 🤣

[@pptemplar5840]

The Wraith coolers aren't that bad, Even Intel stock is going to be "fine" in most cases, just a shame that when they updated it, all the update amounted to was really a cheaper way to manufacturer something of the same performance instead of you know, better performance.

[@psiklops71]

they bought their new coolers at temu

[@beasty7063]

What’s the difference I thought the stock cooler was for a phone

[@AndersHass]

The fact the cooler isn’t pressured down other than with gravity it is impressive it still can transfer heat away as well as it did.

[@nanaki-seto]

No doubt The general idea of a low power pelt and hsf gives me a few ideas for a real build in a very small form factor. If i could get say a little better than stock cooling on a rig powerful enough to run my security cam software that needs good cpu and gpu id be quite a happy camper. I need like a i5 6th gen and a 1080 for gpu to run it with out lag time between camera and what is displayed

[@CaveyMoth]

Yeah, where are the zip ties?

[@ItisDylan]

5:33 When this music starts playing, you know Dawid starts to release his inner mad scientist

[@schizofennec]

it has a very mythbusters feel, which is fitting, since most of what we do here is fucking ar- i mean science

[@chandlerbing7570]

ok

[@Lorenzo_Talpinum]

sonuvabeech

[@martijnt1353]

when terms as "bareback" are used, you know we are past the science phase..

[@plndkid]

😂@@schizofennec

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I feel like the lattepanda would benefit from a retest with proper mounting. Get a metal ship, optimally copper, to bridge the gap and have it properly mounted down with enough pressure.

[@SegFaultOnLine1984]

cracking the die seems really likely this way

[@jierenzheng7670]

Why not remove the back and magnets and put the actual cooling plate part that is cooling on to the lattepanda, maybe the Z height this time will work.

[@thenoob8182]

Next video: Cooling an iPhone 13 with a Wraith Stealth cooler!

[@raven4k998]

hell no why on earth would he pit that cooler to cool such a cool tech product it would be pointless😲😲

[@TheCustomFHD]

It wouldn't work well, as it cant go under the surrounding temperature.. its essentially just as effective as having a fan pointed at your phone. The reason those small things manage to do anything, is cuz of that peltier element cooling below ambient temperature

[@thenoob8182]

@@TheCustomFHDit wasn’t meant to be serious, but I can’t imagine adding a lot of thermally conductive mass and a fan to any chip-style heat source not having a positive effect

[@thenoob8182]

Assuming you’re able to make a thermal bridge across the phone housing to the heat producing chip

[@raven4k998]

@@thenoob8182 and that is the biggest issue I see with that cooler because the phones case is a thermal impedance to that things cooling power plain and simple🤣🤣

[@gmcanepa]

I fully expect Dawid to accidentally solve fusion power one of these days.

[@AnnaDoes]

That would be amazing

[@joseph0-w1l]

Yes I agree

[@tealdolphin3721]

In fact, I even concur.

[@iangc]

I am in accord with that

[@NP_Com]

You have my full consent.

[@namename-cl8kk]

100%

[@R3AL-AIM]

Can't argue

[@chrissavill8713]

I used to have a peltier cooler called the Eliminator. It worked for years and dropped my temps to around 11-12 degrees C at full blast. It used a lot of power but in them days electric was cheap so that wasn't a worry

[@volvo09]

I remember wanting a peltier cooler for my and K6-3... It was almost stable at a 100mhz overclock from 350 to 450mhz, and I figured that a better cooler would make it happen. I delidded that chip and went direct die also. That's when it was allllllmost stable but would crash occasionally and figured a peltier would get it working.... Plus they were interesting.

[@SidneyCritic]

Yeah, power usage is a problem with peltier.

[@privacyhelp]

bruh today electric cost always increasing and not cheap anymore

[@arx117]

​@@privacyhelpback in the day, i assumed it's 90's

[@Tankdmps]

That fan genuinely looks like a mcdonalds happy meal toy

[@poeticsilence047]

Beyblade

[@strider_hiryu850]

i feel like the real stand out champion of this video was the stock cooler included with the AMD. i mean holy COW. i've seen Dawid have MUCH worse experiences with much less stock coolers.

[@DreuScuhDoo]

Would love to see more vids like this was really expecting a small fire to spawn at some point

[@Unassuming_Troll]

The reason the phone cooler wasn't working as expected isn't because it's small, but because peltier coolers need to have a "thermal mass" much like the metal plate you'd attach to your iphone in order to buffer and move the heat to the other side. Attaching a peltier directly to a cpu causes the peltier to heat up along side the cpu greatly decreasing its performance while increasing the amount of electricity is needed to pump heat to the other side, to remedy this, you'll need to attach a "thicc" slab of metal between the cpu and the cold side of the peltier to serve as the "thermal mass".

[@bulletpunch9317]

What metal plate? Theres already is one inside the peltier.

[@Unassuming_Troll]

@@bulletpunch9317 Read my comment again to answer your question.

[@bulletpunch9317]

@@Unassuming_Troll theres no extra metal plate to attach to your iphone. What are you on about?

[@DimkaTsv]

​​@@bulletpunch9317your phone by itself is big slab of metal which takes on thermal mass and spreads it. Compated to power output of CPU+GPU in phone it is...

[@bulletpunch9317]

@@DimkaTsv these coolers work well on full plastic phones too.

[@delsydsoftware]

I played around with peltiers for cooling the print bed of a homemade chocolate printer. I had 2 peltiers stacked on top of each other, with a water-cooling block cooling the stack off. I was able to get the aluminum print bed down to 20f. But, double-stacking peltiers is super inefficient, power wise...which is exactly why you should try a double-stack with water cooling! Most peltiers go up to 12 volts, so it's easy enough to use the 12v rail from a PC power supply to run them.

[@darrylp6938]

I have thoroughly enjoyed Dawid's transition from total neckbeard nerd to computer Jesus in the span of the last three years

[@raven4k998]

no tim just bareback🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@unionofslavstanrepublics2317]

How to make your CPU fry an egg: Dawid Does Tech Stuff edition

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Yes please.

[@SiRubin-r9x]

no ur wrong the answer is : place an egg on my overheating laptop

A lot back in time, some guys at a French VG magazine tried to cool a Pentium IV CPU with a Peltier. They nearly froze the CPU to death in a few seconds while it was at full load, which means a lot when you remember how those Pentium IV were getting hot.

[@fxgamer-11yt]

False pelteir coolers are not efficient enough to cool anything that's why we don't use them also cooler master had a cooler with a pelteir in it and it's still ass till this day ltt done videos on them and derbuer has a video on the cooler master cooler that has it in it soo also pentuim 4 cpus run at 40c on newer coolers back in the day the coolers we used where ass

[@fxgamer-11yt]

A pelteir cooler can only cool up to 70% of its energy cost meaning if it's use 120 Watson it would only be able to keep something with a heat cost of 80 watts so maybe a low end cpu but it won't be freezing it

[@7838-h2d]

it was the end of the 90s everything was possible efficiency was only for gas

[@vdochev]

I sense a lot of throttling in this video. Of the thermal variety.

[@awaisyousaf]

The cooler didn't perform well because it was plugged into a standard USB port instead of a high-power source. As a result, it couldn't draw enough power to operate at maximum capacity.

[@666Counterforce]

Back in the early 2000s my friends and I were already thinking about using Peltier cooling for PCs - never done it tho

[@volvo09]

You could find it done back then. It wasn't super common, but I spent a lot of time on overclocker forums around 00.

[@falcon6329]

im impressed this thing can even run this cpu at 23 watts. My laptop would turn off at 20 watts.

[@DeaD1te]

peltier plates, hearing those words takes me back about 15-20 years lol

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

been a while since peltier cooler was in my vocabulary. Always wondered why nothing came of that.

[@ffftube-le8np]

Yep back in the early 2000s and late 1990s we used to overclock cpu like this. Main issue was condensation if I recall correctly.

[@AnnaDoes]

From 5:57 I genuinely held my breath thinking I was gonna see fire.

[@MoultrieGeek]

Hopefully you remembered to pay the insurance premium first.

[@AnnaDoes]

I checked so fast haha @@MoultrieGeek

[@ninj3x687]

Extinguishers aren’t cheap 😅

[@salmonsoup15]

this video gives me 1 metric head injury

[@gabrielcotrim574]

bro really liked the titan army monitor

[@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup]

Honestly man, you can run a 5300G on a literal slice of metal, and it won't do anything except drop the clocks and power-limit to keep it running. Newer Ryzen CPU's are nearly impossible to thermally harm unless you tweak things in the BIOS. Even the 7000 series that tends to run warm, you can cool a 7950X with a Wraith Stealth and it'll run fine, just at a lower clock-speed (not recommended unless you're Dawid, just making the point).

[@admiral_alman8671]

I actually though about this stupid shit idea this morning, funny to see a video about it later that day

[@Rintero_Pryde]

Great video! That little cooler definitely punches above its weight class. I would have liked to see how it would do with fps capped at 60 as well- I bet temps would have been in the 70s

[@TheGangster-uc4rk]

I wonder how much power you can generate with a peltier if you put the hotside on a CPU...

[@Mio96O-O]

I swear to god dawid do everything but normal stuff 💀

[@BowsettesFury]

That’s why we’re here 🙂

[@Jay_the_Caffeinator]

Awesomesauce video, Dawid!! There's nothing like making cooling potential look cool. And YES!!! I want to see Peltier coolers

[@charlesjmouse]

Apple 'engineers': "Why has that CPU got a huge cooler on it..?

[@mrnlce7939]

Actually surprised the magnets didn't brick the CPUs. Great video. Keep up the good work.

[@BenState]

why would they?

[@mrnlce7939]

Magnets interfere with electrical conduction. @@BenState

[@BenState]

@@mrnlce7939 Magnets dont affect conduction. Either way, no interference at the scale and voltages in a cpu, otherwise we'd have issues with the fans.

[@SurferSandman]

I love all of Dawid's ideas. He does the things I think about but have no resources to actually do it. Thanks Dawid!

[@familyfundays2023]

Loving your content from a cross the pond in the UK

[@XuroX.]

Yes, please do more weird/home made type coolers like this

[@denisruskin348]

I was expecting it to crash the moment you got into the BFV menu. The surprise is immesurable and my day isn't ruined by any means.

[@989coolerplayz6]

that tiny peltier module really put up a show

[@LukeTheJoker]

I'm actually impressed it could run a 20w chip fairly well, I didn't realise it had a peltier in it, I wonder how many watts it pulls? They are supposed to be pretty inefficient.

[@swaggynachos]

Now this is true enginuity, super glad you did this!

[@alyssalovethedj]

Now that you got the fan open though you should take that part that's covered in thermal paste and stick that directly to the processor

[@MichaelAirbnbHost]

I agree, maybe he didn't want it to work

[@Alexst0rey]

Sometimes i'm convinced that Dawid doesn't fight intuitive thoughts, he is powered by them.

[@a12_1]

he does things like that with mid-high end PC parts while there are people like me who wish they even had access to this type of components

[@maple__m00n1]

This shit can't even cool a dammed pentium from the Dark Ages

[@4_ist403]

I literally rewound 10 seconds to see the shroud pop up cuz i was eating and looking at my food XD love the Shroud

[@mayuravirus6134]

As someone whose recently just used a phone cooler you'll need to have 2 phone cooler 1 that works as exhaust and one that is working as intake with just 1 that intakes air it would essentially be a space heater

[@Marbeary]

If ever hardware are sentient we might hear there screams of terror as they approach Dawid's House. Absolute mad lab I love it.

[@TrusteftTech]

I would like to see a proper CPU cooler made by the manufacturers of this phone cooler.

[@CantankerousDave]

I remember reading about companies dabbling with Peltier CPU coolers back in the early 2000s. Probably in Maximum PC. I'm not sure if any of them ever reached the market, though.

[@dhananjayn457]

the fact that it could run half life 2 at 30 fps blows my mind

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The fact that it doesn't get more is the real surprise. A 2003-era midrange card could do 55 fps on 1600x1200. And remember that that is that era's equivalent of 4k today. In 1280x1024 you'd get almost 80 fps.

[@joe--cool]

@@HappyBeezerStudios You do realize the Ryzen slowed itself down and cut power by a lot when reaching TJMax? It's amazing it didn't just turn off, which it does when ran without a cooler (unless it blows up during POST).

[@MisterFoxton]

Guys, the Lattepanda was running HL2 at 35 FPS. You know, the $240 PC the size of a calculator? Not talking the Ryzen here. That's nuts.

[@dhananjayn457]

@@MisterFoxton i didnt know it was 240 dollars...thats a bummer

[@dhananjayn457]

@@HappyBeezerStudiosi didnt know it was 240 dollars, also the whole system was still smaller than a graphics card

[@Lord_Reset]

Got one of these delivered the day this came out, fun!

[@thesilentwalker069]

i wanted to test this too , glad you doing the testing .

[@thebard20]

Dawid answering questions no one else had the balls to ask I love it

[@darkdestwoyer]

I do like the Idea. There is also a possible StepUp as you used a 6cm Diameter Version and there is a 10cm one for Tablets.

[@matthewrichardson2533]

Love your vids Dawid! You make me feel good about my very lower midrange tech.

[@malccy72]

Dawid Does Peltiers = Definite watch.

[@Raintiger88]

Not sure what went through you head when you decided to make this, but I like it.

[@SKRGamingChannel]

new video = new tech torture

[@MarcosCodas]

It’d be cool to see this experiment with one of those “liquid cooling” solutions for higher-end gaming phones!

[@rustybobdotca]

I'd love to see a video with some real peltier cooling. Back in the mid-to-late 90s, peltiers were all the rage for the hardcore overclockers.

[@keliangchan]

i use a similar one(about 10cm diameter) to cool 7900xtx reference version, removed the backplate of the gpu and it can magnetize to it, put a 2.5mm thermal pad in the gap, it also includes a insulating film to avoid short circult, it works.

[@Aar0n2009]

Please play around with this more. It would be interesting to see what you come up with.

[@pseydtonne]

More Peltiers! I was wondering when we'd see them outside of flea markets.

[@JokaGaming2K10]

Next: use gut bacteria as an gaming pc 💀

[@flyinglobster]

Running Doom on rat neurons

[@kt2025]

Would be funny if you overclocked a cpu from a tv or modify it in any other way

[@simoncodrington]

What new strange things will this guy come up with next? All i know is that we need to see more of it and like right now!

[@andrewshobbybasement]

As someone who's played around with peltiers before, the main issue is that they don't get cold enough to negate the heat that they produce. As such, they are only useful in very specific circumstances and it's generally more efficient to just cut out the middleman and make direct contact with the heatsink.

[@privacyhelp]

but for smartphone, peltier cooler is better than just a fan

[@Gamingandlorewithricky]

Always fun when Dawid uploads something that’s clearly gonna fail.

[@tyrannicpuppy]

The intentional savagery is why I keep coming back each video. Sure, it might be a bad idea, but we can't know for sure unless someone gives it a try. Dawid is doing important work here.

[@TheTekknician]

This is such a ridiculous project that I am craving for more! :)

[@tayk7100]

I love this channel and love that you're Canadian too

[@fraudlawyer]

finally found a video to satify my curiousity

[@Dave5281968]

Definitely playing with Peltier cooling would be great: Either an amazing success OR a hilarious dumpster fire! So I say yes, please get your mad scientist out for some fun!

[@VinnyVidiVintage]

I have been waiting for something stupid… and this is exactly what I was looking for!

[@perhapsjames_]

I can always rely on Dawid for the wild combinations of hardware.

[@Mercenary1964]

Back in the pentium days, we used to use the older (all copper) pennies to bridge any sort of gap like the one you encountered with your raspberry Pi. They are remarkably efficient at transferring heat. I'm a little disappointed you didn't try that...

[@mrkrabsx8669]

You really should do the same video but with a cooler from a gaming phone, those are very powerful and can cool below 0° in some cases you can even see the ice forming on the lower plate

[@dezhocob]

Stupid Dawid content=Best Dawid content!

[@HowieDune]

Why not do a test with thermal paste?

[@thunder4dyt615]

After 5 hours wen I'm though this type experiment you tube sujeste this video

[@dzxtricks]

Yes please play more with peltier, I want to see if GPUs can be supported by that too, or even water cooler, or whatever really just slap peltier on it

[@JasonCrosen]

I think it’s time for Dawid to go to the hardware store and build his own heatsink out of scraps and parts found.

[@TrueRewire]

More than the video, I'm even more surprised you manages 8 minutes and 40 seconds of content out of such an idea lol

[@fred_derf]

Yes, yes, yes! Dawid and Peltier Coolers, nothing could go wrong there!

[@savvygadgetz]

I would dearly love to to see you work some Dawid magic with peltier plates!

[@Monkey_D_Luffy56]

Yes !! Use the peltier but use the stock cooler of the cpu to cooldown the peltier instead of that tiny heatsink

[@philtkaswahl2124]

That cooler looks like a free toy my kid self would have dug out of a box of cereal.

[@mukkah]

Dawid's editing is on point. Not once did I see one of the several fire extinguishers surely out of shot lolol ^_^' ~a random canadian subscriber dude

[@Elomentoplayz]

Next try stacking a bunch of the phone coolers on top of each other to see what happens to cromulent CPUs

[@Jimmy_Boy_Kalahati]

This was painfully hillarious to watch. Poor CPU's. LOL. Someone call the CPU cops.

[@chasewilltin8567]

Get a long vapor chamber and put as many peltzier on top, then add some coolers on top of of it.

[@annieworroll4373]

I'd look at a copper shim instead of the thermal pad for the latte panda. Better heat transfer that way and a bonus chance for sparkies if you do something wrong.

[@Jay88051]

A phone cooler,haven't watched the video yet but that's crazy fam😂😂 can't wait to watch it

[@bierrollerful]

I expected this to be "Can I cool this GPU with my eyeball" levels of stupid, but the cooler actually held up suprisingly well.

[@bishopworks3203]

Back in the early 2000s there used to be a cooler called the Ultra ChillTec which employed a Peltier effect thermoelectric cooler slapped on the bottom of a very large heatsink... I have one but lack the mounting hardware. Would be interesting to see how it holds up to something like a modern system or even something stupid like a graphics card...

[@vierv3798]

wooow I didn't know that phone cooler already using that partier technology

[@Heythisismychannel]

I did this before I ever even saw the video. Glad I’m not the only one who thought of it

[@Adamsgotgame]

What a cooler! I'm interested in more use cases with it 😊.

[@ewasteredux]

I really think you should try the peltier coolers in more detail. I have built several projects using them and they are very neat (as long as they can dissipate the heat THEY generate on the opposing side). eBay has some pseudo refrigeration units using them that are interesting if not slightly comical. Depending on wattage, you can use a motor speed controller to adjust the power going to the peltier modules if you choose to make them adjustable.

[@animan7529]

I did remember me once thinking about this idea of cooling with a phone cooler, then I remembered, there’s Master Dawid 🐢🛐