Dawn Gate - The Game that Solved Toxicity - 3

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@aidanmcmurtrie1424
@aidanmcmurtrie1424 Жыл бұрын
"And just like that, EA dropped the ball" Where have i heard that before...
@Neitism
@Neitism Жыл бұрын
Literally everytime EA did something in the past 10 years
@Slightly0dd
@Slightly0dd Жыл бұрын
I've bitten into that apple too many times. Won't happen again.
@xenit7837
@xenit7837 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Slightly0ddNah, I'm chomping, WHY DID THEY SHOOT AND THEN PRONOUNCE TITANFALL 2 DEAD? NO MARKETING! NO GOOD SUPPORT! AND THEY SNUCK IT BETWEEN A COD RELEASE AND BATTLEFIELD! THEN AFTER MURKING THEIR BEST RELEASE IN THE PAST 10 YEARS, THEY MOVE ON AND PRONOUNCE IT DEAD! WHY EA WHYYY?!
@FEARSCAMPYTV
@FEARSCAMPYTV Жыл бұрын
@@xenit7837i was about to say this man :( 7th anniversary was depressing as hell
@ElectroGamingEU
@ElectroGamingEU Жыл бұрын
Feel like you hear that every time they’re in the conversation😂
@hseanhill
@hseanhill Жыл бұрын
When the world actually needed them for once, they vanished.
@Dracomandriuthus
@Dracomandriuthus Жыл бұрын
It's EA
@Mike0
@Mike0 Жыл бұрын
There still here Dawn Gate has Kickstarter from 2020 that reached its goal, to release the game.
@YouWantaBath
@YouWantaBath Жыл бұрын
When the world needed them most, they made another fifa.
@LandonAndCassy
@LandonAndCassy Жыл бұрын
​@@Mike0The project was abandoned when the cost to acquire the IP was determined to be prohibitively high.
@rodrigovaccari7547
@rodrigovaccari7547 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an EA thing to do. Reliable disappointment
@BeastOrGod
@BeastOrGod Жыл бұрын
EA be like "What? It didn't kill LoL? Shut it down, what a failure" on day 2.
@MntlWard
@MntlWard Жыл бұрын
That how big business thinks these days. Success is called failure if the success isn't exponential.
@godslayer9000
@godslayer9000 Жыл бұрын
Literally why the bungie layoffs happened. "What? Destiny 2 isn't bringing in millions after we forced devs to add microtransactions and make the expansions cost unhinged prices? Well then the devs must've been fucking jerkin off all day or something. Fuck it, fire the guy making godlike music for us since the halo days too while we're at it, gotta have those pockets bulging in time for Christmas." These shitty execs are so fucking out of touch with reality they don't feel human. Like even the shittiest human has the slightest ability to adapt to changes.
@revan9903
@revan9903 11 ай бұрын
@@MntlWard That's what happens to games when the ones responsible for the important decisions have never touched a game themselves.
@robinfox4440
@robinfox4440 11 ай бұрын
@@MntlWard and for some reason they have it in their brains that if they don't turn a profit over a 3 month period that people need to lose their jobs (while execs making those decisions get million dollar bonuses).
@bruxinth4660
@bruxinth4660 11 ай бұрын
@@robinfox4440 I am disgusted at the nature of executive politics in publicly owned companies. Too many fing cooks in the damned kitchen, and none of them really knows how to cook.
@axiadjinn
@axiadjinn 3 ай бұрын
This was THE game. So many novel, cool concepts. From the way to interfere with the enemy team's economy, to the 'items' being more abstract feelings, to the living story unfolding that players impacted, this game was a real vision. Also, Moya. I miss you, dear.
@hobbesbeoulve
@hobbesbeoulve 4 ай бұрын
Dude you’re so right. It’s years later, I’m now a chef living a totally different life- I was a competitive gamer in my teen years. Huuuuge league kid, made some decent money- I loved dawn gate. My entire crew did- we legitimately had a big conversation deciding to swap games right before they announced shutting it down. Was sort of a “all right never mind then” moment.
@Neccobus
@Neccobus 9 ай бұрын
I was the audio director on Dawngate! Thanks so much for showing the game some love! It was an incredible dev team, and most of us are still friends today.
@pandanym3065
@pandanym3065 6 ай бұрын
You all did an amazing job, I still think about it years later. The cancellation broke me at the time :(
@NeonBlue27
@NeonBlue27 6 ай бұрын
I still miss Dawngate. It felt so personal the way characters would talk to each other while waiting for the jungle buff to spawn at the start, and Moya had THE best ultimate I've ever seen in a MOBA.
@Klindir
@Klindir 6 ай бұрын
Damn the nostalgia, i didnt remember the game but i clearly recognised dawngate, with the corner in the map and playing a mage with books, thx for everythinf
@pandanym3065
@pandanym3065 6 ай бұрын
@@Klindir Zalgus right ? I loved him
@GeminiTasiri
@GeminiTasiri 6 ай бұрын
It was an amazing game. I still think about it from time to time and I'm not even a huge PvP player.
@666Tomato666
@666Tomato666 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having a community so toxic that introducing EA _improves_ the situation....
@Kyle496
@Kyle496 11 ай бұрын
And this is why I don't play LoL anymore. Would've been fine if I could just auto mute absolutely everyone. I'm 30+ yrs old, I don't need to be told I'm doing a shit job, I already know.
@ragefacememeaholic5366
@ragefacememeaholic5366 11 ай бұрын
@@Kyle496 You can auto mute everyone though...
@Swagbastian
@Swagbastian 11 ай бұрын
@@Kyle496 You can literally disable chat completely...
@iandakariann
@iandakariann 11 ай бұрын
In order to actually do that they would have to stop being EA. But they are EA because of crap like this.
@gdgd5194
@gdgd5194 10 ай бұрын
​@@Kyle496On EA game you would get yelled at by toxic kids and get banned for being too toxic.
@blazingnomad
@blazingnomad 3 ай бұрын
The phrase "If it would've been given time, it would've won" is true to so many games with great concepts.
@KitsuneFaroe
@KitsuneFaroe 2 ай бұрын
But post your examples!
@xenn4985
@xenn4985 2 ай бұрын
No, it's really not true.
@TanToRza
@TanToRza 2 ай бұрын
I still remember watching dawngate dev streams. That game looked so fun.
@Deadbeat116
@Deadbeat116 Жыл бұрын
It always boils down to these corporations being out of touch with the community
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 Жыл бұрын
Oh marketing etc didn't believe based off growth and numbers that it was a financially viable or highly profitable option but who knows could be a some of the higher ups just didn't like it and canned it.
@robinfox4440
@robinfox4440 11 ай бұрын
It's because the people who run them are toxic business bros who haven't a creative bone in their bodies.
@GreyPunkWolf
@GreyPunkWolf 11 ай бұрын
​@yulfine1688 But even LoL itself wasn't financially viable for years...
@yulfine1688
@yulfine1688 11 ай бұрын
@@GreyPunkWolf fair.. but unlike riot and their funding even at the time plus how quickly it gained traction and other games they were in a safe area and smaller at the time under less influence of a publisher etc. Least If i remember correctly it came out in 2009 but i cant really think much right now being so sleep deprived..
@nokturnallex2160
@nokturnallex2160 11 ай бұрын
The problem is creating games that prove to be a long term financial success need time to develop. EA's stockholders and executives just want quick short term returns on their investments. They're not playing the long game and when it comes to gaming, you gotta play the long game. They're just spoiled by all the people who waste money on their sports products who don't care about getting a bad product.
@MrIzzy5466
@MrIzzy5466 10 ай бұрын
"EA dropped it because it didn't perform amazingly onn week 1." Cries in Dawn Gate. Sobs in Battlefront 2. Weeps in Titanfall 2
@Meilk27
@Meilk27 4 ай бұрын
I hate them for what they did to Titanfall 2 what a good game
@red_phoenix0570
@red_phoenix0570 4 ай бұрын
@@Meilk27 unfortunate they will never make tf3 some fans have started making their own titanfall 3 though. I know two people working on a game called wavefront, and I'm making one called WarpFall. both are vr games heavily inspired by tf2. you should look at mine and theirs!
@TheMaxFusionGaming
@TheMaxFusionGaming 4 ай бұрын
Rip Titanfall. It was actually my first exposure to EA as the bad guy so it was interesting while it was around. I still own 1 but never install it for memorable reasons.
@davidjohnson5635
@davidjohnson5635 4 ай бұрын
I loved BF1, not gonna lie. I had some of my best online interactions ever in those trenches. But they can never figure out how to keep anything going for long and eventually it was the same 10-20 homies each lobby.
@Techmaster7032Official
@Techmaster7032Official 3 ай бұрын
Pines in Anthem
@AndGoatz04
@AndGoatz04 11 ай бұрын
"Your honor, Leage of Legends" "Death"
@spacecomendant820
@spacecomendant820 4 ай бұрын
"Ooh nooooooo!"
@TheBlueMuzzy
@TheBlueMuzzy 4 ай бұрын
Having played Dawngate, and knowing the team, I believe this 100%. It's really unfortunate that they are so big, and yet so risk averse. And the community was legit amazing too. I miss the money pigs. This game is core to who I am as a designer and player now. Much love to anyone from the DG era!
@bluntsummary1666
@bluntsummary1666 25 күн бұрын
Dawngate was one of my favorite games ive played and its so sad to see that its gone.
@bkoskitalo96
@bkoskitalo96 Жыл бұрын
Dawngate is my favourite MOBA of all time. It was way ahead of the pack in terms of ideas, strategies, game design and community engagement and i will miss it dearly. I am still pissed that EA killed it in OPEN BETA because it wasn't making enough money yet. who even does that?
@RabidDogma
@RabidDogma Жыл бұрын
The ONLY thing I can think is that, because there's a tiny-but-eager base that's been trying to get EA to just let them fork the game and make a version they can play, at the very least any assets that EA doesn't still have will be somewhere in the world, and now WOULD be a fantastic time to actually jump into the MOBA market. The only truly alive MOBAs still are DotA 2 and League, and they're both hypertoxic. They could release Dawngate as it was all the way back then, right now, as a beta, and draw a crowd again.
@lindboknifeandtool
@lindboknifeandtool Жыл бұрын
@@RabidDogmawhat’s so toxic about these games? People are mean?
@jtowensbyiii6018
@jtowensbyiii6018 Жыл бұрын
​@@lindboknifeandtoolthat's putting it lightly, racism, bigotry, death threats, literally attempted murders aren't rare
@lindboknifeandtool
@lindboknifeandtool Жыл бұрын
@@jtowensbyiii6018 is there any specific reason why people act this way? Like it seems like the GAME is the common factor for this behavior
@Aeivious
@Aeivious Жыл бұрын
​@lindboknifetool9546 its a big free to play game where everyone thinks they're gonna go pro, it leads to a very toxic mindset in ranked. Also your team matters a lot so its easy to get upset at something that's mostly out of your control but effects you immensly
@Jeby-zn5ee
@Jeby-zn5ee Жыл бұрын
Find someone that talks about you the way Thor talks about Dawn Gate
@StormBringare
@StormBringare 11 ай бұрын
In past tense, saying that EA murdered you?
@ayrtonpavot3096
@ayrtonpavot3096 6 ай бұрын
deep
@N3onDr1v3
@N3onDr1v3 Жыл бұрын
"Ea didnt give it the time it needed" Well ea will be ea
@Voron_Aggrav
@Voron_Aggrav 11 ай бұрын
if I'd have a dime for every time EA didn't give something the time it needed I might not be Rich, but I'd have enough to be comfortable for some time
@five5tar10
@five5tar10 11 ай бұрын
@@Voron_Aggrav You would most definitely be rich
@vinewipper2755
@vinewipper2755 11 ай бұрын
ea removed support from a game called wild hearts befote the game was 1 year old because it didn't do as well as monster hunter
@omegahaxors9-11
@omegahaxors9-11 9 ай бұрын
KKKapitalists don't want some of the money, they want all of the money, or none of the money.
@haleynaga5671
@haleynaga5671 8 ай бұрын
Dead space shenanigans
@Mithrral
@Mithrral 3 ай бұрын
God I remember DawnGate. That game was SO much fun.
@TheWorldAdmin
@TheWorldAdmin 3 ай бұрын
Dawn gate was SO MUCH FUN. I met friends across the country that I still talk to because of that game and the character design was so unique. I miss it...
@danelo13
@danelo13 Жыл бұрын
I have a friend, that to this day, still loved every bit of love that was poured into dawn gate. A serious "Nobody could had loved the game more than the community"
@Soah1086
@Soah1086 9 ай бұрын
I really do miss Dawn Gate. The load in always impressed me with how fast you got into game. It also had the most unique support hero at the time where she turned into a key and merged with another player. Loved that character.
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 8 ай бұрын
So it’s just Io from Dota?
@Jordad
@Jordad Жыл бұрын
Ive played league for almost 12 years, and also played Dawngate when it was out. It was incredibly fun, I still miss it. RIP Dawngate :(
@dillonkeller4477
@dillonkeller4477 11 ай бұрын
How do you do it? How can you play that terrible game for so long?
@Zax-dq5sr
@Zax-dq5sr 11 ай бұрын
@@dillonkeller4477 same to the people that have an addiction to anything, they know it's bad, but that alone is not enough to stop them.
@buckbucker8020
@buckbucker8020 10 ай бұрын
@@dillonkeller4477 Some people hate themselves.
@xa5150
@xa5150 10 ай бұрын
I missed out on DawnGate :(
@Fweaka
@Fweaka 7 ай бұрын
@@dillonkeller4477 Idk man how can league be terrible if so many people play it and continue. I think its fun and i'm not toxic.
@renzo6604
@renzo6604 2 ай бұрын
My two favourite game franchises of all time are titanfall and burnout. Both have been bought and pretty much immediately discontinued by ea
@la1sk203
@la1sk203 6 күн бұрын
I find moba genre very relaxing, you can be as invested into the game as you want. Wanna trash talk people you can do it, wanna try weird builds and troll people you can do it, wanna rage cuz your team is full of people like me you can do it, wanna listen to a 4 hour audio book while playing a super late game carry and refusing to push or loose, you can. Honestly very very nice.
@DarkOmegaZero
@DarkOmegaZero Жыл бұрын
Man, yall remember the announcer? when you enter into a game in like the deepest voice imaginable you hear "The Dawngate, Opens" it was so cool and im so sad that ea killed it
@hamr9601
@hamr9601 Жыл бұрын
I tried LoL, absolutely love the art and really like how it plays. Played PvP twice and never touched that game again.
@tobiahderijk2274
@tobiahderijk2274 Жыл бұрын
Jup i play draft sometimes becuase nobody cares really if you win or lose in that. But i touched ranked once, and got a lot of help full tips on how to not do anything in life anymore.
@SYLin-rs8ob
@SYLin-rs8ob Жыл бұрын
@@tobiahderijk2274 ah i think i see your mistake there. You played league of legends.
@OneWeekRainisu
@OneWeekRainisu Жыл бұрын
Draft and aram are what I mainly play; but it's all bots and hacks now even in for fun modes. The games becoming unfun to play and the prices are getting stupid
@teejay1646
@teejay1646 Жыл бұрын
League is such a cool universe with well crafted funny little characters. I'm glad there's so many ways to engage with the universe without having to enter the cesspool of the main game
@commanderdikdik5254
@commanderdikdik5254 Жыл бұрын
@@teejay1646 Yeah, I play League casually but I cannot wait for the MMO to release in like 15 years, actually so hyped I won't have to play league to enjoy the characters
@victim130
@victim130 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I've been saying this since the game was axed. Miss it so much, had some of the most unique ideas in the space to this day too.
@RemnentsPasts
@RemnentsPasts 2 ай бұрын
I loved Dawngate was super fun, great community and a nice shake up on what everyone else was doing at the time
@ThunderPaladin
@ThunderPaladin 4 ай бұрын
"The Dawn Gate opens". Played it. Jungled. Loved it.
@Deityoftime
@Deityoftime Жыл бұрын
I miss Dawngate, that was really the last moba I had a spark for, then EA killed it. Moronic decision. I saw nothing but positivity, queues were getting faster and faster and then suddenly "The Dawngate Closes"
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 9 ай бұрын
positivity doesn't buy the CEO his 10th yacht or 50th car
@MartinFinnerup
@MartinFinnerup 5 ай бұрын
@@sunbleachedangel It kinda does though. A positive game experience leads to more players, playing more. That leads to more money. It's baffling that no AAA CEO seems to realize that simple fact.
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel 5 ай бұрын
@@MartinFinnerup "why make more money if you can make all the money in the world" all I can say
@T0getherAlone
@T0getherAlone Жыл бұрын
I left early LoL to play dawngate and completely agree. Dawngate had many things going for it that were ahead of its time that LoL only in the last 3-4 years adopted. Things like a good story that makes sense and ties into the maps.
@valenten89
@valenten89 Жыл бұрын
I mean League is still missing the community driven lore events where you would choose a side and the games you play/win counted as votes lol. Plus the comic was so good!
@TheCappucinochannel-os4ne
@TheCappucinochannel-os4ne 2 ай бұрын
​@@valenten89League had this, players got salty when Noxus won instead of their nice chungus weeb Ionians and voided the whole event 😂
@Srewtheshadow
@Srewtheshadow Жыл бұрын
Dawn Gate will forever be the game that makes me the angriest. Hearing about it gives me such intense, visceral anger at EA. I never had a bad experience playing the game, ever. Not once. At worst it was chill, which is what I would call some of my best League games. It had infinite potential. And EA wasted all of it.
@nibblitman
@nibblitman Жыл бұрын
But it wasn’t instantly out preforming a long established force in the space so it was a failure. Good lord what kind of business model is that, it’s like well our retail didn’t instantly beat Walmart for market share so we are out.
@lyonfowl2935
@lyonfowl2935 Жыл бұрын
For me it was Anthem, truly an amazingly smooth game once they fixed it up and then fucking ABANDONED it! What the hell man?
@ProfessorShnacktime
@ProfessorShnacktime Жыл бұрын
@@lyonfowl2935way too much lost trust from the botched release. I feel that’s different from the Dawn Gate situation.
@Leeeeegion
@Leeeeegion Жыл бұрын
@@lyonfowl2935 yeah, Anthem was never going to be a thing after they released it. I still don’t understand why a month before release they didn’t have a press release or announcement saying that it’s just not ready yet, see everyone next year.
@Daerioz
@Daerioz Жыл бұрын
sounds casual af. you can't program "toxicity" out of a group of humans.
@rmt3589
@rmt3589 11 ай бұрын
I'm gonna keep this in mind for my own games. Might be the key to saving my community in the future!
@kapperbeastYT
@kapperbeastYT 10 ай бұрын
Step 1: make sure EA doesn't get their grubby mittens on the game
@rmt3589
@rmt3589 10 ай бұрын
@@kapperbeastYT Na! Don't even plan to make it available on their store. Any of them.
@wingy252
@wingy252 2 ай бұрын
I still miss Dawngate, the beta was easily the most fun I've had in a Moba.
@CommandoDJC
@CommandoDJC 3 ай бұрын
I really really like Dawngate too! Not just the community, but it's creative spin on the genre.
@ArtisticScorpio
@ArtisticScorpio Жыл бұрын
I loved Dawn Gate, it was so fun playing the character with the wolves and the other with the tentacles
@wiilov
@wiilov 7 ай бұрын
Fenmore and King of Masks. Good times.
@RealNDY
@RealNDY Жыл бұрын
This ripped open old wounds
@EthanBeattie-wh4zx
@EthanBeattie-wh4zx Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Paragon. It was a 3rd person MOBA like Smite, made by Epic Games. It was kind of rough, but still enjoyable. Epic ultimately pulled the plug once Fortnite started making money hand over fist. Luckily, the devs released the assets for commercial and personal use, so now there are 2-3 successor projects in the works.
@BadMathGavin
@BadMathGavin Жыл бұрын
Paragon was amazing. I actually downloaded it, thinking it was an FPS game. My brother plays a lot of MOBAs, so he offered to teach me how to play, and it was one of the best games I ever played.
@darkwraithcovenantindustries
@darkwraithcovenantindustries 9 ай бұрын
At least you can still download the free models for unreal and reverse engineer the game.
@bipolarbear8940
@bipolarbear8940 3 ай бұрын
@@BadMathGavin I know this comment is old but luckily they sort of resurrected Paragon and it is called Predecessor. It is really fun.
@GreyPunkWolf
@GreyPunkWolf 4 ай бұрын
I'm so mad that I discovered that game after it got cancelled. I completely forgot about its existence and you just reminded me of it. I'm sad now.
@growtocycle6992
@growtocycle6992 Ай бұрын
If HotS failed, Dawn Gate is unlikely to have succeeded
@Nayphun
@Nayphun Жыл бұрын
Dawn Gate was innovative in a lot of ways, I wish it stuck around
@NTeKLullaby
@NTeKLullaby Жыл бұрын
I miss Dawn Gate, it and Master X Master were the only 2 MOBAs that I ever got really into. I still have the old install files lying on a spare storage drive.
@dongriffith2662
@dongriffith2662 11 ай бұрын
I got screwed by EA when they shut down dawn gate, we were set to compete in the first tournament, paid our fees ect. Dawn gate got shut down 1 week before we were set to compete against c9 in our seed game :( Never got that entrance fee back
@Versher777
@Versher777 3 ай бұрын
Dawn gate was gorgeous. Moya was my favorite hero from that moba. Gods, I miss it so much.
@TheGreatSeraphim
@TheGreatSeraphim 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, the toxic players arent the only problem. Playing so much of it I started to realize the little micro jump scares (Like an enemy emerging from the bush, even my own tension from the anticipation of ambushing, or a bullshit glitch or lag killing me) were having a compounding stress effect on my body. I didnt realize it till I took a hiatus and came back. I was away long enough that I was unaware I had been recovering, but not away long enough that playing again caused a rapid decline back to where I was making me aware the game was causing me immense stress from micro accumulations.
@DJLaserzYT
@DJLaserzYT Жыл бұрын
I really like League of Legends. been playing it for 12 years with a few breaks toward the end of that time. Dawn Gate was such a breath of fresh air at the time and EA killed it.
@Blazer4117
@Blazer4117 Жыл бұрын
Dawngate was fucking great. I loved it so much more than League. Far more fun and interesting.
@sipntea
@sipntea Жыл бұрын
EA said "the players are having fun, let's pull the plug"
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 4 ай бұрын
Dawngate was so damn good. I still remember it fondly
@kungfusteeze
@kungfusteeze 3 ай бұрын
You are so in my Al Gore Rhythm, that I got this short 3 times just scrolling rn.
@joewalsh4713
@joewalsh4713 Жыл бұрын
To quote the vexlver lovely "James" Stephanie Sterling, Comander Sterling to the blessed few, "Fuck EA."
@WIFFKING542
@WIFFKING542 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn I miss Dawngate, I played a shit ton of Fenrir
@jippo91
@jippo91 Жыл бұрын
I got somewhere around 8k hours in dota 2 and i have not played in couple of years. I just cant stand the community that just suddenly flips the switch and goes bananas on their own team, just becaus you missed a stack pull or something like that. I have been playing more and more path of exile, because even the global chat is wayyyy more welcoming that your average dota team members.
@alemjenkins9969
@alemjenkins9969 3 ай бұрын
i used to play dawngate a lot, it was breath of fresh air from the toxicity from LoL, the mechanics, the shapers they were quite unique! and i loved it! i was main pharis, kenzo, viridian, KoM, it was a fantastic game. i just wish there was a chance tobring it back. the game would be fantastic
@SageRuffin
@SageRuffin 3 ай бұрын
Anyone else remember a time where a game by EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Konami, etc was a magical time of joy and mirth and exuberance? I miss those days. They were good times.
@arendvandermerwe3309
@arendvandermerwe3309 Жыл бұрын
EA is the Homelander of the games industry. Can do a lot of good but wont because only cares about numbers.
@StoriesByPenguin
@StoriesByPenguin Жыл бұрын
Dawn gate was so fun
@kookoo275
@kookoo275 Жыл бұрын
Dota has been consistently fighting toxicity, they just released a huge behavior score update including showing you when people you reported get banned, consequences for having a low behavior score etc
@BadgerUKvideo
@BadgerUKvideo 11 ай бұрын
I dunno, I really don't like this modern anti-toxicity thing. When I was a lad you could do what you wanted in game. Now it feels like you're at work, with your boss breathing down your neck looking to punish you for one too many naughty words. Modern gaming just isn't as fun/ free anymore.
@xenonbart5526
@xenonbart5526 11 ай бұрын
ah yes social credit systems have always worked
@onionfarmer3044
@onionfarmer3044 11 ай бұрын
​@BadgerUKvideo that's why I play single player. Even Dark souls pvp/co-op is annoying.
@kookoo275
@kookoo275 11 ай бұрын
my man BadgerUKvideo really just wants to use slurs in game, bring back the good ol' homophobic days@@BadgerUKvideo
@BadgerUKvideo
@BadgerUKvideo 11 ай бұрын
@@kookoo275I do miss being able to use the English word for cigarette when talking about cigarettes. Cigarette is an incredibly long word. To be fair, I am English. I should be allowed to use English. As for homophobic slurs specifically. I've had sex with men. Don't see what all the fuss is about. There are far more acerbic slurs available.
@ethanlewis7635
@ethanlewis7635 3 ай бұрын
League got me into gaming as a child and i loved it
@franklinllanes770
@franklinllanes770 6 ай бұрын
I'm amazed. I don't think I've even heard of Dawng Gate before and now I want to research this tomorrow.
@doomse150
@doomse150 Жыл бұрын
The problem is that when people migrate from a toxic game to a new game, they each bring their own share of the toxicity with them. So I sadly doubt that the game would have stayed as non-toxic as it was, had it continued to grow.
@Darkrezta
@Darkrezta Жыл бұрын
it's true to some extend, but dawn gate system will inevitably cut the toxicity down.
@toobig7150
@toobig7150 Жыл бұрын
The issue with that logic it's that everyone on any given game haves a tiny bit of toxicity. So in theory all big games should be toxic but we know that's not the case. Its just that the big ones (mobas) are so out of touch with their community (specifically riot) that they do nothing to root out the real issue. For example riot seems to just want people to not be possible to communicate with each other at all, the chat it's impossible to use without getting a chat restriction, they completely removed the ability to use pings to communicate and also auto mutes you for pinging too much.
@doomse150
@doomse150 Жыл бұрын
@@toobig7150 ALL big competitive multiplayer games ARE toxic (in their own ways). Show me one that isn't.
@doomse150
@doomse150 Жыл бұрын
@@Darkrezta I doubt it'll do too much since it (as far as I could find information about it) doesn't actually have an impact on your rank ladder placement and progress, so I doubt people care about it. LoL also has an honor system that is somewhat similar (you can only honor one person though, not multiple), but nobody actually cares about it.
@toobig7150
@toobig7150 Жыл бұрын
@@doomse150 I feel that you didn't read my comment, that's exactly what I said, in paper all games are toxic but not really. Bf1, Bfv, bf 2042, halo mcc, (and depending on the game mode) halo infinite, minecraft (yes, there's a handful of toxic servers but the great mayority aren't), foxhole, Albion (not on weekends tho), Ff14 it's famous for being extremely friendly yet extremely huge, guilty gear and sister game blaze blue, GFL, and I'm tired of using my phone to type so I'll cut it to say: everyone it's toxic when circumstances force it on you, it's not coincidence that the most toxic community is also from the most toxic genre. And that the other games on the genre get spot #2-#3 Its a fundamental issue in everything Moba genre does but also extremely exacerbated by what the devs (specially riot) do. Everyone its at least a tiny bit toxic but MOBAs it's a petri dish for toxicity, bringing the worst of even the most mellow people. Big games =/= toxic Mobas = toxic
@DillonMeyer
@DillonMeyer Жыл бұрын
More proof of why Dawngate would have won: League of Legends stole its artstyle for the map, and even some of the modern graphics for champions and effects. Also, they straight up just stole a character archetype from Mina and put it on Yuumi. They even more recently took Dawngate's "Haste" and watered it down to rework Ability Cooldowns. Though I guess in gaming, stealing from a corpse isn't really stealing.
@Novictus
@Novictus Жыл бұрын
We call that archeology
@mop-kun2381
@mop-kun2381 11 ай бұрын
my guy, where do you think Dawngate's developers and artist go after the game shutdown ? do you think they just stay home and being grumpy at League of Legends all day ? no, they go out and find another job, and which studio has been hiring more and more expanding their team ever since ? oh right, Riotgames. its the same for saying League steal from Dota. Lord, the people who made the original League of Legends were previously DotA Allstars devs. follow the people, not the company
@Zorander2008
@Zorander2008 11 ай бұрын
It was willfully killed. Murder is by far a greater crime than theft. But greed will always make the killer rifle thru the pockets to look for loose change. In this case, it’s merely an insult.
@Zorander2008
@Zorander2008 11 ай бұрын
Good advice. I agree 100%. Follow the people. But why not copy the best thing that everyone loved? Insanity!
@theycallmehero13
@theycallmehero13 7 ай бұрын
I feel like your live streams are like a podcast where your guest is chat and the subject is life advice through the guise of video games and programing
@Metalovai
@Metalovai 14 күн бұрын
I got to play Dawn Gate for a week 9-10 years ago. It was super fun.
@jibster148
@jibster148 2 ай бұрын
I cant take "toxic" seriously as an adjective when it sounds so cool
@vineveer4358
@vineveer4358 2 ай бұрын
Dawngate talk in my 2024 doomscroll? -breaks down crying in nostalgia
@ttgl_bobross
@ttgl_bobross 5 ай бұрын
Watching these shorts has just filled me with this painful nostalgia for this one game called demigod. I played back in the day but I just wish had taken off more as a moba. It had so many cool, interesting ideas but it just flopped so hard.
@seth.remar.supreme
@seth.remar.supreme 3 ай бұрын
I remeber I had very bad PC back then. But I loved that game so much. Especially the art of items, was looking like stained-glass.
@nestor1208
@nestor1208 4 ай бұрын
I have taken a break for ~4 years in dota, and I can confidently say that the toxicity is much less now than it used to be. It's still toxic, but it's getting much better
@thomas.edgerton
@thomas.edgerton 3 ай бұрын
I am really happy to hear someone say good of Dawngate -or anything at all really. I liked the game. Hope we see similar at some point.
@JMScibra
@JMScibra 4 ай бұрын
The fact that they canceled it and therefore AREN'T the light bringers almost had everyone in the first half.
@sinsaneee
@sinsaneee 3 ай бұрын
i loved dawn gate and all my friends loved it too. TBH they gave me back all the money i spent on it as well which i didnt expect it at all. Amazing game it was.
@shiroblank277
@shiroblank277 3 ай бұрын
:( Dawngate :( It's weird to see anyone talk about this game at all, it was so amazing. You even remind me of my favorite moba character Zalgus a bit.
@brisklloydavator
@brisklloydavator 4 ай бұрын
the question of "which game company is the worst" EA genuinely seems like they're actively fighting for the title
@pureheartx3576
@pureheartx3576 6 ай бұрын
The game came out in 2014, league had been out for 5 years and was already massive and growing even faster than ever. I played it for a bit and it taking over LOL is very optimistic.
@cartwright1348
@cartwright1348 6 ай бұрын
Dawngate was an incredibly fun MOBA, it never got a chance to shine and I find myself thinking about what could have been every so often.
@foxcyber404
@foxcyber404 17 күн бұрын
Imagine living in the timeline that dawn gate didn’t get shut down
@phantom_dreamer
@phantom_dreamer 7 ай бұрын
Oh man. I participated in Dawngate's CBT, and I loved playing it so much - it had a lot of fairly unique takes on the genre. I was really disappointed when I heard it was going to get the axe, and even more so when I've heard the reasons for it Also, nothing will ever surpass the power trip a Freya with full build gave you
@chaseclason6608
@chaseclason6608 15 күн бұрын
I LOVED Dawn Gate. I played the guy with the goat. Still have it installed on my old laptop
@nicholasfigueiredo3171
@nicholasfigueiredo3171 5 ай бұрын
Dawn gate was awesome. They had a system where people got levels for being nice. So you could just shit talk them, and everyone would be nice anyway and since you would lvl slower you could really grind it out. There were groups of people seeing how much you could lvl being as shit as possible
@connerfarr8072
@connerfarr8072 5 ай бұрын
I just want command and conquer generals 2 back. That game had me the most excited for a game than I had been for just about all games and they killed it when it looked gougiouse and 95% complete.
@TheDakkaman
@TheDakkaman 2 ай бұрын
“How screwed are you?” “I was relying on EA’s good business sense to save me.” “Turbo-megazord-ultra-instinct-super-screwed, gotcha.”
@Sage2000
@Sage2000 Ай бұрын
Fully agree. I started playing Warcraft 1, 2 and 3. Then Dota came as a mod and we played a LOT in Lan houses. Imagine my sadness when I had to leave Dota after so many years.
@romkin1197
@romkin1197 2 ай бұрын
Last time I played LoL i was playing Yuumi (Cat character that attaches itself to players on your team to provide buffs and healing). I attached myself to my carry and they threw a temper tantrum cause we were...winning our lane? Yet telling me to get off of them. They ran into jungle I stayed in my lane and our Jungler came in to be my new carry and me and the jungler were really chill and my entire team snapped at the guy. Never played that again.
@dragonfire5568
@dragonfire5568 4 ай бұрын
“This isn’t making all of the money right now at this very moment.” That was their thought process.
@Derwyddcymraeg
@Derwyddcymraeg 5 ай бұрын
I really loved that game, remember tb, dodger and strippin played it back in the day
@loveinthevalley
@loveinthevalley 3 ай бұрын
Obi-Thor to EA: "YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONES!"
@e5caflowne2
@e5caflowne2 Ай бұрын
Thors sight of things is sometimes very... special.... 😂❤
@NaughtyKlaus
@NaughtyKlaus 3 ай бұрын
Dawngate was the only MOBA that I enjoyed.
@picklewart5382
@picklewart5382 6 ай бұрын
Time to make a new Moba like Dawn Gate and implement anti-sheep measures to prevent toxicity.
@ruthie_chie
@ruthie_chie 3 ай бұрын
Huh I immediately get calm endorphins seeing and listening to Thor 😌🧖🏽‍♀️🧘🏽
@marekferenc1277
@marekferenc1277 Ай бұрын
Never even heard of Dawn Gate. I think Heroes of the storm solved toxicity quite well by having basically everything shared across team
@CruizersMotorsports
@CruizersMotorsports 5 ай бұрын
I know this guy does video game stuff but I seriously just love his positive no nonsense attitude. I only play Forza motorsport, would love to hear if he has any thoughts on that games development
@damonfields6377
@damonfields6377 5 ай бұрын
Wow, I was a huge dota and league player 10 years ago and loved dawngate. There were so many Mona’s coming out and failing but dawngate me and my friends kept playing, just felt is was different yet balanced enough it was very good. Sad to hear this now
@ayakaasama
@ayakaasama 7 ай бұрын
EA and dropping ball is the most memorable duo
@TinkerToyz88
@TinkerToyz88 5 ай бұрын
VOLIC!!!! that was my fav..sad to see the game didn't make it but was happy to see EA gave money back to those who spent on the game.
@VenomGundam
@VenomGundam 4 ай бұрын
Dawngate was legit the most fun I had with a moba.
@juanshanks6984
@juanshanks6984 2 ай бұрын
EA being a savior in anything is a wild universe to be in
@mikefm4
@mikefm4 Ай бұрын
This is why I still gravitate towards single player games. I deal with toxic all day and night in the real world. I don’t need my unwind time to be toxic as well. If you need me I’ll be on fallout 4 or ff7
@gamist8166
@gamist8166 7 ай бұрын
I've never heard of this game and looked it up after seeing part 2. Was very sad to hear this in part 3
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