DAY FOUR | HIGHLIGHTS | 2023 Duelbits Mosconi Cup

[@chrismasoud4081]

Honestly after watching the full 4 days, Europe side has infinitely better chemistry and fed off the home crowd exceptionally well. It was a Masterclass in team tournament pool

[@Grnvolpe]

The US team behaved like they’ve never been under pressure before

[@Arthur-nr5ci]

Europe would make a solid APA Masters team.

[@rac8153]

Just better players. US has one russian, one washed up and 3 mediocre players

[@delayedcreator4783]

this should have been conducted anywhere else other than usa and europe

[@MattApril]

To be fair they've had momentum on their side for years now. Much easier to be a cohesive team.

[@owentally9127]

What a crazy final set. Can honestly say I've never seen an object ball hop out of a pocket, or an object ball fly off the table on the break in a matchroom tournament. Congrats to Europe who played stellar all week. Hopefully this will motivate USA to work hard next season and come back stronger in Vegas 2024.

[@Arthur-nr5ci]

The ball flying off the table was nuts. Probably had something to do with the template. The ball coming back out of the hole does happen from time to time, usually when the balls in the pocket get stacked on top of each other. That's why Johnny Archer and some older school players used to always move balls from one pocket to another before they shot at it.

[@gizibaikk]

"Comeback stronger next year" well it's not that simple. The quality gap between two teams is widening as the time goes by and it likely will not gonna stop soon. Team Europe are all champions nowadays and they still have many amazing players to choose if they decide to make a change. Meanwhile in USA they still playing Tyler who'd barely pass through 64 in any recent WNT tournaments. Their only hope is Fedor. Ironic.

[@rickwilson478]

​@@Arthur-nr5ci...I was surprised that Alcaide didn't go pull any balls from that pocket on his other big shot into it, or at least go check the pocket. Maybe they just didn't show it in the highlights.

[@Arthur-nr5ci]

@rickwilson478 It's a pretty rare occurrence and just plain bad luck, it doesn't surprise me at all given everything going on at Mosconi.

[@BACKSPIN9ball]

US players should stop playing pool at the local bars for quick cash and concentrate on playing 9ball. Albin Filler and FSR are all focused on playing 9ball but you have guys like SVB who plays all disciplines of pool all the time, that is the only reason they keep missing simple shots. The patterns in 9ball v 8ball v one pocket are very different and when you don't spend nearly as many hours as your opponent on the same pool discipline chances are you're not gonna beat them.

[@laonlaan]

The Fedor move by the US clearly shows how little the supply is with regard to talented young players. They're just not producing the kind of up and coming players that you find from china, Philippines.

[@PM_ME_MESSIAEN_PICS]

china? who are the up and coming players from there

[@chrismasoud4081]

But how do we fix it??

[@cthulhuops6593]

Young ppl don’t have the work ethic I’ve been playing since I was 17 I’m 21 now been putting the work in I got a ways to go but I’ll be in this tournament one day

[@Lion-mx9wu]

HEHEHE YOU'RE VERY RIGHT BRO

[@r.s1322]

@@chrismasoud4081 the Strickland way

[@rubenleary8812]

27:44, the 7 ball bounces off the 2 ball to exit the pocket and lands back onto the table, 36:53, the 7 ball bounces off the 2 ball to exit the table and lands on the ground. These 2 balls have a funny relationship...

[@colincolenso]

Big W for the table. btw. It's off, not of.

[@rubenleary8812]

@@colincolensooh, I made the typo on the first line then copy and pasted it into the second line without seeing it 🫣

[@rubenleary8812]

@@colincolensowow I really screwed up the grammar on the entire sentence😂

[@jenshoffker5702]

what happens with the 7 when it's off the table on the break?

[@rubenleary8812]

looks like they tossed the 7 into the pocket and gave ball in hand to the opponent@@jenshoffker5702

[@eaglemac-vc7nh]

This tournament needs to add 8 ball and 10 ball in the mix. 9 ball is cool but the other games minimize slop. Would be cool to see just saying.

[@zzztir0m945]

True

[@zanethind]

You can have slop in 10 ball and 8 ball too especially 8 ball plus there's slop because it's the biggest tournament of the year in pool and there's major pressure too and loud screaming fans don't help your focus either. Some like loud, some like quiet and others like both

[@Whatdoyouwant904]

Yes I agree, I’ve said they should play 8 ball, 9 ball, and 10 ball in the Mosconi Cup. Maybe even a one pocket match, it should be multiple pool games to prove the best not just 9 ball

[@eaglemac-vc7nh]

​@@zanethind I hear ya but the slop is limited to the called pocket in 8 and 10 ball. In 9 the ball can fall anywhere. There's luck in either game though. I'd just like to see them mix it up that's all

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

That's a good idea

[@qb9music]

Man, credit to Wolford. As a rookie i believe he relatively held his own, bad luck just got to him.

[@rickwilson478]

Agree, he made a lot of great shots in the few chances he got to play. I hope they bring him back next year.

[@rodolphschmirnoff2853]

He allows himself the opportunity to be a shit maker,big heart 🦾

[@emprophy]

lol yeah he missed a straight in 8 and and easy 9 to choke the set. He doesn’t deserve to be there. Period.

[@Sacredsnow2]

@@emprophy you mean the full length 8 he was jacked up on to get to the 9? And the long cut shot on the 9? Not exactly easy shots. Especially for his first appearance at the mosconi. Who would you recommend in his stead? I’d like to see Thorpe back since his suspension ends this year. Or maybe you since you’re such a billy badass 😂

[@yousnotright]

The Americans always blame bad luck, they are not good enough, simple as that.

[@hensur1614]

Outside the technical aspects, i think the european team has developed more positive and solid teamwork. Each come from different culture background and mother tongue languages, this creates more room of personal tolerance to each other, less frictions..

[@monwellchassion923]

Great perspective

[@chrismasoud4081]

If I may, I think the European side has an argument for the best side of any team in a Mosconi Cup of all time. They played to their level for the most part, U.S. didn't play to their level, and I think the outcome is fairly explicable

[@hensur1614]

@@chrismasoud4081 as far i can see, most american players performed below their actual individual standard. They also suffered more unfortunates (scratches) in ball breaks, this is distressing to all, plus target to win points, this accumulate the pressures. In repeated unlucky incidents one needs strong peer group supports to recover

[@chrismasoud4081]

No disagreements here. I need more time and distance from the event, but I didn't like the U.S. response to Europe's emoting, which they had every right to do@@hensur1614

[@rickwilson478]

​...yeah, and the problems with their breaks can be deadly in a race to only five format. I don't understand why this tournament isn't race to seven, at least.

[@chrismasoud4081]

FWIW, I want to shout out Scott Frost who I thought was excellent and accounted himself really well. Good job bud!

[@neuvocastezero1838]

You may want to look that word up.

[@pepperwestwood]

Make Frost the coach and get rid of SVB. It’s not his bag. 10-3 is beyond embarrassing showing.

[@Sharivari]

I like how USA acted and peformed on the last day the most. Unfortunately, a bit too late. Could have been a closer score. But it is what it is. Lets see what's going to happen next year in Vegas.

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

Day 1 USA should have won at least the team match if not for SVB choking TWICE! Day 2 Fedor should have won 1 single vs FSR cuz FSR scratched and didn't play that well but Fedor couldn't capitalize. Day 3 maybe the single with Sky could have gone his way as he was leading first. Day 4 Woolford could have won if he dropped that 9 that David missed. So overall the score potentially could have been 11-7 to make a much more interesting contest but still Europe winning.

[@rickwilson478]

I am wondering if they put a lot of emphasis on their safety play in their practice sessions and the breaks were where they needed the tune-up. (to me, their breaking mishaps lost the most games). Today, they were playing more aggressive in safety/go for the shot situations, and it seemed to work better for them. I haven't watched the entire tournament though, so maybe I am getting it wrong. 🤔.

[@_.Mike.__]

Saw you chillin in the crowd 😎

[@danielhicks4826]

Yeah they were definitely capable of getting like 7 points overall not just 3.

[@Rokinwubzies13109]

Shane is so funny celebrating! I love him

[@danielhicks4826]

me to that was sweet.

[@nokiaphone113]

I think he’s making fun of Filler’s celebration: SUUUIII one

[@ChasingChinster]

Lots of people love to hate on Joshua Filler (especially Americans), but his passion for the sport is unparalleled and I think he plays the part well at the Mosconi Cup. Take a look at 13:18, great sportsmanship to congratulate his opponent with a smile and hug.

[@danielhicks4826]

I felt that way about Jayson Shaw for while like geeze guys talented as heck and super tough mentally but what an absolute douche lol, but nah OI get him now and he does show respect to his opponents usually, but yah I get his type, and really is something a great example of what you can do with a supportive crowd ultra confidence and elite skill.

[@Melan.D]

Yep. I used to hate Joshua too... But I've watched him humble himself over the years and his talent and passion towards the game is extraordinary... Absolutely my fav player now...

[@beechfox3423]

“Unparalleled”. Meet, Earl Strickland.

[@Melan.D]

@@beechfox3423 Unparalleled in his obnoxious ways maby 😅

[@leewoods4605]

@@danielhicks4826If you thought Jayson shaw was a douche then you must have hated Earl Strickland. Never mind in just pool, Earl is just one of the biggest douchebags on the planet.

[@Gs_up_Fros_Down]

Outstanding performance by the European squad. Hats off to you, made it look far easier than it should be. As for my American aquad, I think its time to bring in some new blood. SVB played some of the worst pool I have ever seen him play. Really hope next year he isnt just automatically on the team cause of who he is, he's played in enough and has a horrible record as it is. Tyler Styer is another one I wouldn't mind seeing gone, he hasn't ever made me want him on the team with his past performances. Wolford played great for a first timer, pressure didn't seem to faze him much. Sky plays great pretty much every year and he seems to love the atmosphere and doesn't get rattled by the pressure. As for Fedor, he didn't play great but, it was his first run with the U.S. team I believe that had an effect on his play especially in doubles matches. I dont think he's played with the guys enough to have a good amount of chemistry yet. They better do something different cause thats 2 consecutive years they were just manhandled and had their ass kicked by the guys across the pond.

[@danielhicks4826]

Shane has had an amazing 2023 in terms of single matches, but yeah little funky at the Mosconi cup though his win here finally was pretty sweet, but point is shane has had a great 2023 so far so only made sense for him to be on the team again if he can get in the groove he can crush but clearly something preventing him from being at his best in particular this year overall this win/point aside.

[@usafleeds13]

SVB was on the team because he qualified in the rankings-behind Sky I might add. Fun fact, Fedor also qualified in the rankings after he announced his US status. Guess who was third in the US rankings before that happened-Shane Wolford. THAT is the caliber of selection we have to deal with. Every single European player on that team is in the TOP 24 In the WORLD Fargo rating. Wolford and Styer arent even if the top 100. Pool is growing Overseas, and it isn’t in North America, let alone the US. I hear people say “It should be Europe vs North America,” but Pagulayan and Morra barely play anymore and don’t even match Skys Fargo. MAYBE it would be a little closer, but EVERY year more and more young blood Euros are popping up on tour with SO much skill and dedication. USA needs a serious change to ever win another Mosconi.

[@horaceball5418]

I agree my USA is only 5 players short of winning next year. Let's get 5 Philippinos to become citizens!

[@horaceball5418]

The Phillipines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@usafleeds13

[@CeciliaRodriguez-t6m]

Congrats Jason and the boys.. Shane is so funny celebrating! I love him.

[@sltbeats1923]

Hahah trueee😂

[@Krushard]

13:22 lmao, SVB mocking Filler's idiotic antics is hillarious

[@linesoverlines]

😂😂😂

[@rickwilson478]

...yeah, I enjoyed that too, Filler's "power pose" just looks ridiculous to me, and I am not seeing Filler respectfully acknowledge the opponent during and at the end of each match, as Shaw does. Shane actually repeated the pose directly facing Filler, showing some atypical, for him, Mosconi enthusiasm !😊

[@MisterEDit1]

I like Fillers SS haircut

[@JC-rn5op]

​​​​​​@@rickwilson478sorry but that's completely wrong, you've missed Filler respectfully shaking hands after every match and even hugs sometimes, and look at the class he showed with Styer last year after potting the winning 9. His antics are often annoying but are aimed at the crowd and he's gracious with players in victory or defeat. He actually laughed at Shane mimicking him and then warmly shook his hand. Watch again. Shane is always classy and I think the pose at the end of that one - it's a mimic of Christiano Ronaldo BTW - was done in good spirit. Funny that Shane doesn't really know how to do it too. It was all good fun, unlike the trauma of the rest of this year's event.

[@rickwilson478]

@JC-rn5op ... yeah, you're right, JC. I re-watched a full highlight clip, and everything you point out to me is correct. Maybe it's not a good idea for me to make a negative comment like that without having watched the full match. Congratulations, your team really earned the win, and though I don't like Filler's boasting style, I have been commenting that his shooting ability is really impressive and his safety play is, I think , the best. The double lock-up safety.. on the six(?) was perfect, and he just walked away, I think, without even waiting for the six ball to stop moving... he knew right where it was going.

[@edwincastillo6902]

Now I know why a lot of Filipino players clear the pocket before making a shot specially the last ball. I thought it’s impossible for the ball to hop out of the pocket after a shot, but there it is, Alcaide hit the 7 ball dead center but it magically came out.

[@b4ssfunk3d]

I do it once or twice a month on my home table. The reason is my table has plastic pockets that go to the ball return. With enough back or forward spin on the cue ball it transfers to the object ball sometimes causing it to spin back out. This wouldn't happen on netted pockets

[@rickwilson478]

...yeah, and I was surprised that we didn't see Alcaide clear the pocket the next time they showed him shooting an important ball to that same pocket. Is pocket clearing something that the refs ever do, or is it up to the players only because the ref might inadvertently do it for one player and not the other?

[@rickwilson478]

​@@b4ssfunk3d... so, not netted pockets and apparently an unleveled table (Skyler's lag scratch yesterday) ... WTF

[@jamesdavis8731]

It's not just Filipino players that do that, many players from around the world do that. This was a complete freak accident. Been playing pool for 50 years. I have never seen a ball go that far down a pocket and come back out. Usually the ball comes out when going in a pocket that is full of balls or close to it.

[@Sacredsnow2]

@@b4ssfunk3d it depends what the back of the pocket is made out of. I’ve had balls hit the back rim of the pocket and pop back out on my home table with netted pockets. Usually when I have to power draw.

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

The 7 ball is possessed in this tournament! 😅

[@corey1845]

Ouschan, that draw was beauty

[@shark2u6]

if you look at the replay the 2 ball was sitting in the ball return and caused the 7 ball to bounce back out. crazy that table had a ball sitting in the pocket on a new table

[@Sacredsnow2]

All things aside for the US. Wolford showed a lot of promise, Gorst played pretty well and the US has a lot of promise talent wise moving forward. If they can solve the mental issues the mosconi should be pretty competitive moving forward. 11-3 is a bit unfortunate but that’s what happens in any all star game when one team doesn’t play to their potential.

[@eightwhales69]

does the usa roster look like all stars to you

[@rickwilson478]

​... the comment you are replying to is a valid one. Do people not realize/// better wording/// isn't the whole idea of the Mosconi Cup that the country U.S. patriotically challenges the continent of Europe with whom ever players they have available and you flippantly asking, "Does the U.S. roster look like all stars" is bullshit. European team is better. Better ranking, better Fargo scores, maybe the freakin best Mosconi team ever! Are your team all stars? Hell yes, but what is your definition of "not all stars"... only top five top ten qualify? SVB is is in the top ten of all time, regardless of where he is ranked currently (I don't know)... Gorst..isn't he a recent major tournament winner ... Woodward, again I don't know his current ranking, but he has a winning record in Mosconi Cups. Congratulations to Europe and how about some respect for your opponents, your own team members show that respect.

[@Sacredsnow2]

@@eightwhales69 yea, they do. Again except for styer and Wolford, who showed a lot of potential and are very young. SVB and Gorst are in the conversation for best in the world rn. Skyler is a top contender. I’d say the only issue the us has in the cup is mental. All of these players have beaten all of the players on the euro team in plenty of tournaments.

[@rac8153]

11-2 last year, now 11-3, its just not close at all

[@danielhicks4826]

@@eightwhales69 Well 2 of them abso bloody lutely, the rest def not all stars but mostly competent enough and good if not very good.

[@ahmadrifan9026]

Dan lagi team Eropa masih mendominasi Masconi cup 9Ball. Next time team Eropa vs team Asia😃

[@Stollberger72]

Mosconi Cup has become a circus in recent years, with some players acting like strutting clowns. As a European billiards player, I can hardly identify with 'our' team.

[@patrickbaitman8336]

I agree, but the Mosconi party atmosphere is pretty awesome. I would love to be there acting like a knob screaming for my favorite team. Definitely a cringe clown show at times.

[@lionelhollywood7275]

Couldn’t agree more … they say pool got boring but this WWE crap is borderline pathetic.

[@rickwilson478]

Europeans' enthusiasm is fine, but Filler's " power pose"..?.. or whatever you'd call it (I got a laugh at SVB mimicking him when he beat him tonight !!), is kind of ridiculous to me. Shaw goes over the top with his schtick, but I get that he's working the fans, and he always seems to be directly respectful to his opponents after each match. It would be sweet if U.S. can come back with the same five players next year in Vegas and eek out a win, (with better breaking for fxcks sake), to shut up all the naysayers commenting that the Mosconi Cup is no longer viable competition.... even though the U. S. won twice in a row, just four and five years ago.

[@rickwilson478]

Congratulations Thomas, your guys played really well!

[@Lion-mx9wu]

YES! ESPECIALLY SHAW & FILLERS they've got so much air in their heads!!! face the ASIAN TEAM and their tails will drop bet their legs! hahaha

[@snap-n-shoot]

those pockets make it hard to miss….the tables are not flat..the balls can hit the cushions a few times as they roll along it.

[@chrismasoud4081]

@27:30 honestly it came back up after a carom off a potted ball sitting in the pocket. If he asked to have the potted ball moved to another pocket (#2 I believe) it would have sat down

[@sdickinson5234]

It actually bounced off the bottom of the pocket if you watch it in slow speed. It's not clear if it hit the 2 ball at all.

[@corey1845]

European here. Dont like Fillers attitute but that combination was sweet. SVB kept his nerves together and deserved the w. I like it!

[@angelescityvids]

Not a good showing for Rasson pool tables. Uneven table, ball popping out of pocket, object ball off table on a break, etc. Never saw that on a Diamond table.

[@smokecigar]

Yeah its ridiculous. Table level was so off that Woodward scratched on the lag! Rasson is basically a cheap chinese imitation.

[@jonnycarroll6676]

Hold your head high gentlemen you have disappointed no one the rolls were skant to begin but as always pure talent will provide excellence. Shangerous you are the Dominater and your ancestral faith will ensure your success. America is still the hope of equality regardless of the current world anger.

[@ThanhTran-yj1je]

16:15 "Du hast mein Segen Junge!" 😂😂😂

[@sparkydatank]

What the hell was that at 1:40 english pool is so much harder that should never go in .... well done europe great win !!! { USA CHANT IS SO CRINGE }

[@Hellfyre88]

- SVB - Sky Woodward - Fedor Gorst - Mike Dechaine - Lukas Fraccaso-Verner

[@edwin_ac]

Cristiano Ronaldo is immortalized on this Mosconi Cup

[@Chameleon-wq4ul]

🤣🤣🤣

[@HawarHB]

Europe can mobilize their B team or probably C team as well and still be able to beat the USA. ( Mario He, Victor Zelenski, Ecklent Kaci, Max Lechner, Neils Fejin, Kazakis, Sanjin, Chris Melling ...) They will dominate for years to come. Unless they reshape it to the world vs Europe just like Laver cup in Tennis.

[@dhruvramani28]

I think just add in an Asia or South East Asia team in the mix and they could compete with them. Ko brothers + China + Philippines + many others would make it so much more exciting.

[@MezcalRainDance]

If Wolford took the extenstion to shoot the 9 ball that Alcaide missed in the side pocket on rack 5, it would've allowed him to walk around the table and be more relaxed. He looked pressured by the shot clock, but had plenty of time to settle if he used the extension. This would've put him 3-2 ahead of Alcaide... with more pressure on Alcaide. Someone was eventually gonna lose it for U.S.A., just wished there were a few more matches.

[@jaynosowsky9708]

He should of never been out there for the final game . JJ was trying to Guarantee europes win!!! And it almost back fired in his face...lol he's a SELL out boatch!!!!

[@rickwilson478]

​..sorry, but that's a ridiculous comment. Wolford played well in the few chances he got and he was in this match all the way to hill hill for fxcks sake. The breaks were U.S.'s downfall. They missed plenty of shots during the match, but if they had their breaks working they would have at least made a respectable showing while still losing..... edit... re-read your comment.... you are blaming JJ as a sellout..???. Really? Wolford has to play and he came damn close to giving the team a win from their rookie. It was an appropriate choice to play him, in my opinion. If he did win it would have given them some momentum.... yeah yeah not a tournament win.

[@jaynosowsky9708]

@rickwilson478 you are so brained washed...respect able !!! Lmfao....thats there biggest loss away from home!! U.s missed shots and couldn't even play position!! Everytime they got a bad roll , they gave up!!! Europe got lucky because they played amazing!!! You thought this was a good showing!!! Lmfa0 wow your a clown...this was embarrassing!!

[@thenit]

Considering that the mosconi cup win was way out of sight on day 4.. its safe to say that JJ's choices on last day was purely made with next year in mind.. And it made sense to give wolford a singles match.

[@andymcneil7085]

Congrats Jason and the boys.

[@dfuseidazza6129]

That pink 4 ball at the start of the video should never have went in shows how easy them tables are missed the pot by about 3 or 4 inches 🤣

[@danielhicks4826]

I thought the crowd as super obnoxious, but now I get it.

[@donegotold8776]

Its ashamed that the US doesn't support US pool or billiards financially like the UK countries do !!

[@TheGunDude]

Woolford played great. I hope next year is closer. Europe has the best players on earth. USA has great players but they don’t seem as consistent

[@barmouthbridge8772]

pretty obvious what happened with the bounce out. previously potted balls compromised the game. change the nature of the collection of balls potted. remove them might be an obvious place to start.

[@joulupukki1607]

Svb flexin made this video for me😂 so rare sight

[@devonshire56]

Whew !! was great to see Shane play and win one-on-one with Filler but that is the only bright spot in another loss for US. Not sure how the US is going to change this dynamic. We need a couple of Jayson Shaw types on our team.

[@shaunpage4498]

Billy Thorpe is a character like that. Maybe they will bring him back

[@chrismasoud4081]

This has to be a wake-up moment for the U.S. pool community. We CANNOT depend on Matchroom to drive a push in awareness for this sport. I am confused about U.S. pocket billiards leadership with the U.S. aligning with WPA while the best players are committed to the 9-ball tour. We need a unified strategy and a strong pipeline development program to compete! We can do this!

[@Sacredsnow2]

They should start a school for billiards in each state. That would be amazing. Maybe Americans would be able to see a pool table before they turn 21 💀

[@philipcallado5693]

@@Sacredsnow2I used to live near a restaurant/bar that had a decent 8 foot table (only decent table in the area that wasn’t a barbox 😂). One day I was playing and this kid was watching. I asked if he wanted to play but they said he couldn’t because he wasn’t 21. 🙄 this kid could end up being a legend but he won’t get a chance to play until he’s old enough to drink? Unless his parents buy a table for their house.

[@vortexlunaa5492]

Anyone who thinks SVB "lacks the passion" is either on drugs or delusional. Just because you have a bad streak doesn't mean anything as drastic as that. Some of the greatest players in ANY sport will always have a bad streak. It's human nature.

[@jeffwilliams1356]

Bad streak for 3 years in a row.

[@rickwilson478]

​​@@IronOrchid-HQ...granted, team play and the Mosconi in particular are not SVB's Forte, but he earns the spot each year and I guess he would have to bow out by his own choice and he probably wants the opportunity to compete to reverse his poor Mosconi record.

[@jamesdavis8731]

I am a huge SVB fan, but his strength is not team play - especially in the Mosconi Cup. He has not played well for years.

[@rickwilson478]

@IronOrchid-HQ... there are two guys who have a KZbin channel I watched last nite, I think it's called "dogging it", and in their Mosconi commentary yesterday, the U.S. fan guy hesitantly said he thought JJ should not want SVB on next year's team, like right at the end of their half hour show and the other guy's reaction was, whoa, you drop that bomb at the end of the podcast? It seemed like they both know Van Boening personally . It's not like the idea is out of nowhere, but then, is there an obvious better choice? It could easily be the same five players for Europe next year, and it would be great to see the U.S. same five beat the odds and eek out a win next year, not like it's impossible as many commenters seem to think.

[@vutrongtu]

Can anyone give me the name which all audiences dance with word "la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la " this year??

[@gibmartindale5051]

Need to add in one pocket and bank pool as well. ALL POOL GAMES. NOT JUST 9 BALL SLOP 💯

[@matroas]

Cool to see that Mike “The Situation” from Jersey Shore is playing on the European team this year

[@mustafaalaa9019]

Must be the Europe vs Philippines and USA for better competition

[@ChumpChange-z4g]

Whenever a crowd makes noise while vbh is shooting i chuckle. Hes def

[@jamricsloe]

80% of this week was a gift.

[@omarmatin1052]

Great victory for Europe but I think this kind of landslide victory is detrimental for the Mosconi cup.

[@collinskimathi-g8n]

SVB made my day!😂😂😂😂

[@Shintikibob]

The only match that mattered to me here was that SVB win over loser filler.

[@doraemon402]

That trophy says the same

[@scambodia147]

1.42,these buckets are ridiculously easy,these guys are pros play on a table that plays so easy,,Strickland called it right,TIGHTER POCKETS FOR FFS!!

[@ashbulman8058]

They should keep this team for the mosconi cup an unreal team

[@BK-qo4ro]

Who became the mvp? Joshua was clear MVP but after the loss against SVB, maybe Shaw?

[@paulusrumanouw3176]

I think should be Shaw cuz he contributed the most points, only lost the double once in day 2 while Josh lost 1 double and 1 single.

[@Sharivari]

Joshua

[@MisterEDit1]

Filler won best SS haircut

[@voodoorage2710]

Be proud it took a bunch of countries best players to take on 1 country in USA.

[@jackojuice8691]

24:53 Joshua (Ronaldo) Filler

[@TheThormann89]

Is that Captain Canada in the commentary?

[@abhishijack]

At 21:25, what language did the both players talk in? I assume one is Austrian and the other German. What language were they conversing in?

[@juppderwal918]

German (Germany, Austria , Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Northern Italy)

[@Louis-bn7ni]

Makes me laugh how much he hit that 8 ball into the side rail and still potted it. Pockets like buckets, it’s hilarious.

[@doraemon402]

How is it acceptable that Filler, who lost 2 matches, is the MVP when Ouschan and Alcaide ended up both unbeaten?

[@ZenKingscom]

Do you know the criteria? Who decides?

[@doraemon402]

@@ZenKingscom This is probably Emily Frazer's choice and the criteria is whatever she wants. Players like Filler and Shaw, who have more flare and presence, are flashy and are characters have a higher chance just based on that. Just like in 2021 it was absolute BS that the MVP was Shaw. But, what can you expect from someone who single handedly decided a non American can represent America just to try to make the cup more competitive?

[@stevewimmer9758]

American pool is horrible now because nobody plays. There used to be at least one pool hall in every town and now you can't find one. They're just not profitable.

[@choojoohuat9052]

😮😢😱 OMG..... what a disasterous performance by TEAM USA !!!!!.. simply outplayed n outclassed by the 5 elites of Team Europe.... Team USA seriously needed to conduct a post mortem on their selection....this will go on for the next few editions unless they unearthed another 5 new "miracle players".... u cannot rely on SVB and Woodward anymore 😢😢😢😢

[@robnicholas6214]

Why sint the ref shutting the crowd up

[@gorankunovic6404]

Might be good for future to give some handicap to USA team….😊

[@sergeantjake470]

what does the dot by Shane's name mean?

[@danielearhart6467]

I can't see the US winning any more Mosconi Cups. The odds now are really against them. I expect four of the US players will be participating in the next 5 to 10 competitions. And as a team against the current and future Europeans they just are not good enough, nor will they get much better. The opportunities and money is just not there for US players. And the situation will only get worse. I applaud Shane Wolford for trying, but if he is the future of US billiards, the outlook is indeed bleak.

[@choojoohuat9052]

Maybe to level up the 2024 edition... Team Europe might consider sending in their "B Team" of Kazakis, Kaci, He, Zielinski and Lechner or maybe a Team Europe Seniors of Souquet, Feijen, Melling, Appleton and Pagulayan .

[@McElwainLovesSharks]

Wolford drove me crazy. Almost like he couldn’t handle the pressure.

[@mr.chungus2352]

To many good players from Europe. USA lucking to have Gorst . Cant see many mosconi cup titles in the future

[@thang8617]

27:45 Why don't he play?

[@chrismasoud4081]

So Alcaide kick on the 3 or Filler's kick safety on the 7 yesterday, which was the shot of the Cup? I say FIller's kick safety on the 7

[@ActionBastard2k]

Filler's for sure. That was sick

[@rickwilson478]

Filler's, he walked away from the shot before the cue stopped. He knew right where it was going! I don't dig his smug/ridiculous "power pose " antics, but his safety play is freakin next level, he's deadly all around.

[@chrismasoud4081]

Filler best player in the world? He has the highest Fargo score @@rickwilson478

[@matepavlovic361]

🎱 Where is this ?

[@siik2nr0701]

USA built their roster based on skill. They needed to build it on both skill and personality. Mosconi cup is about momentum and energy. USA players have no energy except Sky. Europeans have an entire lineup of talent AND personalities. Of course they will win. USA needs to change how they decide on who plays next year.

[@farshidrahmani6262]

Yeah, but at the end of day Shane says to any European player, “ you wanna play some?”

[@squilliamfancyson7257]

This event is like a circus. The fans are obnoxious and disrespectful to the game. And Team USA is embarrassing!

[@itellyouwhy6957]

The crowed was nice to the yanks here. They felt sorry for them.

[@brianlannoo5511]

WAS It Europes turn to win this show, alot of sandbagging by the USA team. Come on... those short shots to the corners were off to start with.

[@LolosPy]

Somebody needs to make a funny video with Oushan looking up and the the kid saying WTH happened? Jajaj

[@simplelangperorock]

33:46 this Shaolin referee should know he is not supposed to move when players are down!!! Wtf

[@kenthomson9562]

I enjoy pool but having seen and heard these spectators, I’m not happy with the class of company I’m in.

[@doraemon402]

That 7 ball is why you use a ball return system and not drop pockets.

[@zanethind]

2:52 Joshua Filler is SVB's kryptonite in the Mosconi cup but Shane proves it wrong this time at 13:18

[@Krushard]

What do you mean, Filler lost to SVB here.

[@zanethind]

​@@Krushardyeah I know read my full comment though. I literally said Joshua Filler is his kryptonite but here Shane won

[@rickwilson478]

​@@zanethind...I guess he didn't understand your wording, seemed pretty clear to me... did you see that SVB repeated his mimic/mock of the Filler "power pose" more than once and directly facing Filler!! Shane showing some atypical Mosconi enthusiasm and letting Filler know he doesn't quite "have my number " in Mosconi Cups.

[@Krushard]

@@zanethind you're an insecure little liar and edited your comment after I pointed out that it doesn't make sense.

[@zanethind]

@@rickwilson478 👍

[@unchapeau48]

I think team matching at 8 ball is will be give more variation and interesting isn't it?

[@vatoloco429]

What's the prize money here?

[@stevehiggerson7328]

Europe has over forty countries and 2.5 times the population of the US. One country versus an entire continent??? Break them up into 3 or 4 regions. Then add Taiwan, China, and the Philippines, each as their own team. Now take those 8 teams and have a Mosconi team tournament. Single elimination, 3 rounds, each match held in a different country. Still could be done at the end of the year, maybe start round one near the end of November.

[@shush1879]

salty losers lmao

[@haies09]

Shane playing with his hearing aids turned off? He looked focused, but a little too late

[@ghost5horse6]

Just 3 games for the audience. They should be allowed to ask to a partial refund.

[@Ixabi97]

Ouschan should be MVP

[@martinolson761]

Naturally Tyler Styer fouls on the swerve shot to doom the match...He's good at that!

[@danielpodgorski4218]

Those pockets are disgustingly generous

[@intervortex8201]

Not even hiring one of the European stars the USA is able to get even closer to Europe in pool 😂😂

[@thomasfit3095]

19:04 He almost missed this easiest shot lol

[@Idontpicksides]

Shane was accused of lacking touch but forget all of that now😅

[@budiwiyono9969]

If there was a team from Asia... they would definitely be the defending champions, because the younger generation of Asia is far superior in their game... 

[@rickwilson478]

Separate tournament Reyes Cup... Phillipines vs. Asia (the rest of Asia) .... Reyes winner vs. Mosconi winner. And for fxcks sake make it races to seven or nine!

[@Find.list.ship66]

But there isn’t. So whatever you said means absolutely nothing 😂

[@josephnjoroge7820]

These tables are very forgiving

[@bobbycuesroadhouse2204]

What happened to Billy Thorpe and Oscar Dominguez? Much better than Styer or Wolford......imo

[@Larry-t5g]

I'm English and was glad to see Europe win. I'd have to say though that team Europe had much the better run of the ball. And could they please ditch the EU flag.

[@laonlaan]

Team Europe is solid, there's just no weak link, and it doesn't help when the reliable US players suddenly don't play well

[@toddk8114]

None of these players are actually good enough to call themselves professional..Earl was the greatest and everybody else is just playing for 2nd but as an amateur

[@TurnbuckleTimes]

The 7 ball sprung back up like The Undertaker! 💀⚰️

[@rickwilson478]

..the look on the kid's face was a riot.. cameraman even had the kid's face zoomed in!

[@Robertograyda1112]

Also is very nice to watch also if they have asian player in masconi cup