DaYan FTO Unboxing and First Impressions!

[@EddtheRexMan]

Drop your questions in the comments, and I will try to answer them!

[@Potato_pigeon]

To be fair. Dyan has always had a nac for making the first truly good of puzzle types. Megaminx, guhong, 2x2. Etc

[@EddtheRexMan]

Absolutely, and I think this is no exception! DaYan have really tried to set the bar nice and high for FTO hardware. There are still plenty of improvements to be made but this is an amazing FTO debut!

[@igortarasow]

your reaction to how good it is brings such a big smile to my face. I'm so excited to get mine and to see fto community grow and innovate

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@igortarasow very pumped to get it set up and ready for action! Lots to cover in the full review!

[@matejgrim]

I hope FTO becomes a WCA event. Imagine the rocket fast rate of improvement of both solvers and hardware...

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@matejgrim the improvement following the Diansheng was already incredibly fast, I can't even imagine what it would be like if FTO got added

[@solver5k]

DaYan has been on a roll with great cubes and I'm really excited to try this one next!

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@solver5k this is a great showing from DaYan! I'm very excited to get stuck in over the next few weeks!

[@newjerseykimchi]

so excited for this!!! my dayan fto comes in about 3 days and just watching you turn it made me fall in love with it lol

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@newjerseykimchi it's an instant main for me. I broke all my pbs except single within a few hundred solves and I haven't even lubed it yet 🔥

[@pengusplayz5756]

@@EddtheRexManwhen’s the full review coming out?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@pengusplayz5756 hard to say because I don't have much time to record stuff over the next few weeks. I will say that I have been absolutely loving the DaYan so far. No reason to go back to the Diansheng. 😅 If you're remotely serious about speedsolving FTO, then the DaYan is the best option by a wide margin

[@pengusplayz5756]

@@EddtheRexMan thanks!

[@tmksstyle8954]

Which are you and the FTO enthusiasts watching this video looking forward to, the Diansheng FTO Large size? or the DaYan FTO Small size?

[@EddtheRexMan]

Honestly, a smaller version of the DaYan would be ideal. A larger Diansheng would have no advantage over the current DaYan. After several days of solving, I've broken all my pbs except single so I am happy to say that the DaYan is definitively better, unless the large size is a deal breaker (it isn't for me). In fact, I never got a 14 on the Diansheng but I just got a 14.51 today on the DaYan 🔥

[@JTiger1046]

oh my god this looks like heaven i cant wait!!

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@JTiger1046 it turns nicely, it's a bit big but I'm enjoying it so far!

[@CubingwithLex]

Such a cool video!

[@EddtheRexMan]

Thanks, I did it very quickly and in one take😅 hopefully I can make the review even better with plenty of detail

[@pengusplayz5756]

6:22 you broke my PB on the first solve 😭

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@pengusplayz5756 and you can too with a bunch of grinding 💪😤

[@pengusplayz5756]

@@EddtheRexMan I hope so!

[@RubiksRonaldo]

Really looking forward to receiving mine in the mail!!!

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@RubiksRonaldo this is shaping up to be a game changer. Hopefully the size isn't so large for some solvers that they have to stick to the Diansheng

[@RubiksRonaldo]

@@EddtheRexMan honestly considering I'm still able to solve on my RexTO without really struggling, I think I'll be fine tbh, but it's definitely something I'm very curious about

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@RubiksRonaldo the RexTO was great for most people, so I'd be happy to have a DaYan around that size The current DaYan size is pushing it just a tad imo

[@RubiksRonaldo]

@@EddtheRexMan maybe so, but I guess we shouldn't have had super high expectations since this was the first ball-core attempt on an FTO so I assume they wanted to make sure it'd work first? Maybe we'll see a Dayan FTO mini in the future?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@RubiksRonaldo that will be a large part of my feedback in the review, I expect. I do wonder if the size is partly down to sourcing washers, magnetic rings and screws that would be too large if the puzzle was smaller 🤔

[@higgledypiggledycubledy8899]

Question: is it easy to remove the coloured caps from the pieces ?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@higgledypiggledycubledy8899 I removed a triangle cap yesterday and that was pretty easy. They're all friction fittings I think, so I don't expect them to be too hard to remove, but I haven't checked the other pieces yet

[@OreKehStrah]

How does it feel compared to the DaYan Pro megas or GuHong Pro if you have or tried them?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@OreKehStrah I'm afraid I haven't tried any of those, sorry :/ I can tell you it feels great though 😅not the most objective comparison I guess

[@OreKehStrah]

@EddtheRexMan are there any puzzles it feels similarly too?

[@TheBookDoctor]

Just pre-ordered two of them!

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@TheBookDoctor it is very promising, hoping that I can find a set up I like and get straight to breaking pbs 😅

[@draakisback]

Really looking forward to getting mine, I ordered it a couple days ago and it will get here probably next week. I have the lanlan, the Rexto, and the danshang, I've heard this thing basically is the gan of FTOs. I do wish it was a bit smaller like the DanShang but theres nothing you can do about that I guess. Maybe finally the WCA will make this an official event.

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@draakisback I do agree that I would prefer the DaYan to be smaller, the Diansheng's size actually makes my hands cramp, so I think I would like a version of this FTO about 1-2mm larger than the Diansheng

[@draakisback]

@@EddtheRexMansmaller sizes are usually good for long periods of solving, but if the puzzle is light enough it shouldn't matter too much. Still it is nice to have something that is easy to put into a pocket. I'm sure some other company will make yet another FTO soon enough especially if the WCA picks up the puzzle as an event. Perhaps dayan will even release a V2 in a couple years if the puzzleas sell well.

[@ColorBlock11]

What 3x3 would you say this is most comparable to?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@ColorBlock11 Zhihai (larch_cuber on Instagram) made the following comparisons: 1. LanLan is like an old Rubik's brand 2. QiYi's upcoming FTO is like a Qimeng V3 3. Diansheng is like a Mr. M 4. DaYan is like a Gan 11 M Pro Now I don't have many 3x3s to compare this to, but I would say it feels significantly better than any FTO I've tried before, and I haven't even set it up yet

[@ihorsukhovatenko]

thank you so much for the first impressions 🎉❤ can't wait for my dayan fto to break all the records 😉

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@ihorsukhovatenko I am sweating bullets At this point I just want to be the first European to break sub20, then I'll happily watch you and Igor and Ekaterina demolish the records 💪

[@itzecuber]

Finally

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@itzecuber 😤😤😤

[@inseminggd9435]

Could you pull a corner to test popping?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@inseminggd9435 can do, in a few hours. I will say that I tried to pull an edge out and it was really hard, so I'm optimistic about the anti-pop measures in this FTO!

[@inseminggd9435]

@@EddtheRexMan oh nice, thats always good to hear Im also pretty optimistic about it cause from what you said it was really loose (way over the possible range for the diansheng) and you still didnt get a pop, so that system has to be pretty good

[@CubingChaos-Liv444]

I’ve been trying to break the sub 30 barrier on fto. Have you got any tips or suggestions? Also so excited for the Dayan fto!

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@CubingChaos-Liv444 don't underestimate the value of untimed solves and unlimited inspection. The former has been especially helpful for me because I can take the time to find more efficient solutions.

[@EddtheRexMan]

While this may not apply to you exactly, I have made a video with a few intermediate tips: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHrGY6qpYr2DnKcsi=wK15e2fNBA5zdnAg I also made a video about fixing mistakes, so feel free to take a look at that too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oonPc2iQZ9yVhZYsi=WJ8ASmPd9jcrNr-6

[@itzecuber]

How hard can you turn it?

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@itzecuber with sufficiently tight tensions, I can turn pretty aggressively without pops or catches The corner cutting is much better on this than the Diansheng so you can get away with much less accurate turning in this, I think

[@sterben4958]

I’m glad I didn’t buy the diansheng lol

[@EddtheRexMan]

@@sterben4958 real 😅 although the Diansheng is perfectly usable, and it might even be a better option for people with small hands