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Brother John Elving

Brother John Elving

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Perry Stone @perrystonevoe is at it again with another so-called "prophetic word" for 2025, and honestly, it's just more of the same fear-based manipulation.
Perry claims that, "demon spirits" will use people’s voices to spread lies and slander, but let's be real-this sounds a lot like an attempt to silence those who expose corruption in ministries, including his own.
Nowhere in Scripture does it say that calling out false teachers is demonic. In fact, the Bible warns us about false prophets who deceive people for personal gain (2 Peter 2:1-3).
And then he goes on twisting the stories of Judas, Peter, and Ananias and Sapphira to fit his narrative, when none of those stories actually support what he’s saying.
Judas was a traitor, Peter was rebuked but repented, and Ananias and Sapphira were judged for lying to the Holy Spirit, not for exposing anyone.
It’s like he’s just throwing out random Bible stories hoping people won’t actually check if they make sense. The biggest issue here is how he demonizes those who hold church leaders accountable.
Since when is questioning a ministry a sign of demonic influence? That’s not a prophecy, that’s a manipulation tactic. And let’s not ignore the fact that Stone has a long history of false prophecies that never come true, and he’s faced serious accusations in the past, including financial and ethical concerns in his ministry.
I’m not saying I know his heart, but when someone repeatedly issues vague, fear-based prophecies that always seem to benefit themselves, it should raise some red flags.
The Bible tells us to test every spirit (1 John 4:1), reject false prophecies (Deut. 18:20-22), and expose deception (Eph. 5:11).
This 2025 "prophecy" looks like another attempt to control the narrative and keep people from asking questions. Don’t fall for it. Stay rooted in Scripture, seek truth, and don’t be afraid to call out falsehood when you see it.
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@BrotherJohnElving
@BrotherJohnElving 6 күн бұрын
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@lovethegrandkids3732
@lovethegrandkids3732 6 күн бұрын
@BrotherJohnElving are you one of the Daystar KZbinrs who endorses Amanda Grace? I am shocked that Laura Lynn, Ohio for Freedom and Pastor Ray support her. Thankfully Kim Chadwell does not.
@lovethegrandkids3732
@lovethegrandkids3732 6 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4elaWmufst5qs0si=-2HwwH9AZCsJVnqX
@user-lu6vq9re2l
@user-lu6vq9re2l 6 күн бұрын
@@lovethegrandkids3732 I'm pretty certain that brother John sees her as a false prophet.
@lovethegrandkids3732
@lovethegrandkids3732 6 күн бұрын
@@user-lu6vq9re2l good to hear. I’m shocked that those others endorse her often.
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
@@lovethegrandkids3732 people’s endorse Patricia King too and all she says and does is not correct
@julenehatlin8709
@julenehatlin8709 6 күн бұрын
If a child gives you a report of SA, there IS no "listen to the other side of the story"!!
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
Exactly child SA here and they do much much damage by not believing the child and I don’t care who stand up for the abuser. The child doesn’t know what sex is and they don’t lie.
@rebeccadavis1668
@rebeccadavis1668 6 күн бұрын
That’s right!
@djwarrior3365
@djwarrior3365 6 күн бұрын
Straight to police.
@GirlPilot7
@GirlPilot7 5 күн бұрын
Exactly!!!!!!!
@deborahteel3974
@deborahteel3974 6 күн бұрын
She’s doing damage control. That’s all she’s doing it amazes me how many Christians I’ve seen supposedly prophesying since the increase of the Internet. It makes me wanna puke.
@Lilly-s2k1o
@Lilly-s2k1o 6 күн бұрын
Me too,she looks rather weary and I’m sorry I do not agree with her. I do not believe little lamb will be torn ,rather she will be a victor. And Patricia seems a little toxic.
@friendoflife2416
@friendoflife2416 6 күн бұрын
Yes I watched that doctor on Julie Roys talk about damage control. It was very subtle.
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
Agree
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
​@@Lilly-s2k1o 🎯💯
@leonabray1735
@leonabray1735 6 күн бұрын
God is cleaning house Patricia. We have seen this in the past. We are praying for baby Lamb and healing for the whole family.
@LorindaMartinez-rn5em
@LorindaMartinez-rn5em 5 күн бұрын
AMEN 🙏
@T.Justus
@T.Justus 6 күн бұрын
NO Patricia.. You ‘re still failing to see some obvious points. Recorded proof and receipts. While the sexual abuse of the lamb child is the top issue, how in the world can she tip toe around the recorded intimatidation, control, threats and the wrongful termination of jonathan and suzie lamb? And support this bizaro quickie marriage between joni and Doug. I”m appauled that so called prophetic people have little insight and common sense at times. She is covering up the rest of the issues and behavior. Two sides of the story? Both sides told their story already. In GREAT detail.. remember city view, beach view, Joni in 3 places at once…etc 😩can’t stand patricia personally.
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
But Patricia is only worried about the false accusations that they’ve had and how they made her feel
@sharonereed81
@sharonereed81 6 күн бұрын
This is the same woman who said Todd Bently's anointing was stronger than hers so she didn't feel comfortable confronting him.
@T.Justus
@T.Justus 6 күн бұрын
@@sharonereed81 omgosh 🤦‍♀️ stop the mystical insanity lol
@couragedearheart2951
@couragedearheart2951 5 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTELY! She is so LAME!
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 6 күн бұрын
I can’t imagine any legitimate ministry wanting to have anything to do with Daystar anymore, it’s sad but righting is on the wall.
@LivingintheLandofMisfits
@LivingintheLandofMisfits 6 күн бұрын
Is your photo Benny Hinn ?
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 6 күн бұрын
@ yes pastor Benny
@LivingintheLandofMisfits
@LivingintheLandofMisfits 6 күн бұрын
@@ryanehlis426 why ?
@Htrabaluap24
@Htrabaluap24 6 күн бұрын
​@ryanehlis426 your comment is rich with irony given your pic- Hinn is one of the biggest wackadoodles out there.
@ryanehlis426
@ryanehlis426 6 күн бұрын
@@Htrabaluap24 I like pastor Benny, he preached the gospel to millions of people.
@leonabray1735
@leonabray1735 6 күн бұрын
I love Denise and appreciate her stepping up and speaking.
@lchewning6207
@lchewning6207 6 күн бұрын
I’m tired of hearing from these self-righteous fake prophets.
@friendoflife2416
@friendoflife2416 6 күн бұрын
Who are all so wealthy!!
@Peonia-Melbourne
@Peonia-Melbourne 6 күн бұрын
@@friendoflife2416 exactly right, i wonder how many single mothers with children they've helped
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
​​@@Peonia-Melbourne if I was a betting person, I'd put a LOT of money on zero to none. In that same vein, it's the same reason none of these *healing* gift pastors spend time in hospitals. They'd rather be jumping around on a stage demanding that people give them money to pay for their bodyguards, private jets, & multimillion-dollar homes.
@julenehatlin8709
@julenehatlin8709 6 күн бұрын
And, the "other side of the story" usually blames the child. I was one of those children at age 10. My sister, wife of abuser, told me "he" said I lured him. Liars always have to cover their tracks.
@LivingintheLandofMisfits
@LivingintheLandofMisfits 6 күн бұрын
I’m sorry 10 yr. old you were abused that way 😢
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
Pisses me off when child is blamed I am an abused child of SA and the other thing is they say oh they never do that
@julenehatlin8709
@julenehatlin8709 6 күн бұрын
@@LivingintheLandofMisfits Thank you for your compassion in responding. So much appreciated from my heart.
@LonelyCreek
@LonelyCreek 6 күн бұрын
I am so sorry this happened to you Grace and healing to you. I totally agree with you! there is NO other side of the story!!!!
@pearlg3055
@pearlg3055 6 күн бұрын
didnt Patricia King read Roys report and Denise Boggs? it is not a story from heresay
@raeb2055
@raeb2055 6 күн бұрын
Patricia Patricia. A professional forensic counselor TESTIFIED that when and if a judge calls for her evidence, it is weighty and clear. It's clear Pat, you've been busy and couldn't have had a chance to see the two prosecutors and other professionals. There is a church in Ontario where survivors' stories and their support (adults and children) are not dismissed. Its not private there and opportunities for healing available.
@dalebaehr6060
@dalebaehr6060 6 күн бұрын
Well Patricia , that is why we ought to call for an investigation...
@elainebolling505
@elainebolling505 5 күн бұрын
Exactly, common sense prevails, not a feeling you may or may not have about it or what she feels God would do
@maggyjones4749
@maggyjones4749 6 күн бұрын
The law states that if you know of a crime, it is incumbent upon us to report it, especially in the case of sa of a child!
@dougsmyth4424
@dougsmyth4424 6 күн бұрын
In Australia, all employees and volunteers in churches (and any other institution where care of minors occurs), are MANDATORY reporters. They MUST report when there is ‘reasonable suspicion’, NOT PROOF. It is the role of law enforcement to investigate SA of minors.
@msisabelgomez
@msisabelgomez 6 күн бұрын
Patricia King obviously, like Marcus Rogers, hasn't done her investigation or heard all the videos. But yet she wants to come out to give advice to the church of God!? Sit down and shush it up, PATRICIA KING! 😡
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
Yes lack of knowledge and she’s a narcissist she keeps bringing up her things
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
​@@conniesharstrom2727💯🎯
@vickijensen-h3u
@vickijensen-h3u 6 күн бұрын
When Perry was saying that the reporters of the injustices aren't leading people to Christ. What about the ones who are leaving because of the whitewashed tombs. God bless you, John for spreading the gospel of love.
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
pERRY HAS SOME THINGS OF HIS OWN TO DEAL WITH AND HIDE, SO THAT IS WHY HE IS SO TOUCHY ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
@deborahteel3974
@deborahteel3974 6 күн бұрын
Patricia, you don’t have authority over anyone! What pride!
@user-lu6vq9re2l
@user-lu6vq9re2l 6 күн бұрын
Patricia is a NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) 'prophet.' Her theology is not sound, as it mixes elements of New Age beliefs, Christianity, and New Thought philosophy. While she appears to be sincere in her desire to do what's right, her theology has been influenced by misleading teachings. She seems like a person who wants to help others but has been led astray by the various doctrines she's encountered.
@DeborahSpeaksTruth
@DeborahSpeaksTruth 6 күн бұрын
She is dishonoring her husband with that shorn hairstyle 1 Cor 11
@markscott4830
@markscott4830 6 күн бұрын
@@DeborahSpeaksTruth Her husband had a stroke and they live in assisted living together
@DeborahSpeaksTruth
@DeborahSpeaksTruth 6 күн бұрын
@@markscott4830 I’m sorry to hear that
@Melinda-g3z
@Melinda-g3z 6 күн бұрын
Where did you get that information? That is not correct.
@et4878
@et4878 6 күн бұрын
Jonathan is Joni's son, Suzanne is daughter-in-law and it's her grandchild! If you treat family that way, good grief!
@matthewcraig8926
@matthewcraig8926 6 күн бұрын
God Bless you Brother John. Thanks for standing up for the victims of these false people. We'll continue to pray for the victims. 🙏
@carollawrence464
@carollawrence464 5 күн бұрын
She needs to listen to all the recordings that Jonathan had showing exactly who Joan is and how she defended her son in love! The whole story has been recorded! And now we just find out that Marcus wanted his son to be the president on his deathbed!
@Melinda-g3z
@Melinda-g3z 6 күн бұрын
PATRICIA KING, why is Josh not allowed at Rebecca’s house?!
@denalowry8710
@denalowry8710 6 күн бұрын
Ministers are not to be investigators - that is left for law enforcement. Ministers should report
@b.abernathy7980
@b.abernathy7980 6 күн бұрын
Marcus' prayer for Jonathan is very touching.
@kribengovender7318
@kribengovender7318 6 күн бұрын
Amen to that ! i feel in my spirit that part of Marcus Lamb crying was he fell into sin, repented and was forgiven. Bowing down and washing , Johnathan's feet tells how anointed, faithfull, and trustworthy Johnathan Lamb is, and the one he trained to lead Daystar in the future .
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
WELL, GOD IS LOVE AND HE DOES NOT TOLERATE SIN, OR EVIL, SO PUT THAT IN YOUR EQUATION , NOT YOUR HUMAN FEELINGS, PATRICIA!
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
But, but, but SHE heard from God. (sigh). The rest of us are just stupid and don't know how to read our Bibles-- (sarcasm intended) Patricia the Jesus I know, I do not see in you, and that's putting it gently.
@wendysellors9503
@wendysellors9503 5 күн бұрын
Amen. So tired these modern day profits who seem lord it over us everyday mortal believers. Sight. Do you not know that we are all ministers of new covenant ant can access God's throne for ourselves also each individual born again believer can hear from God for ourselves. Wow. This is why jesus died and rose again. We all have access to God and can discern and hear from him. Wow. We have his word and holy spirit. Church take back power God gave us and hear connect God ourselves. The Lord is our shepherd and guide. Time to connect with him alone x
@rosemarytolo7267
@rosemarytolo7267 6 күн бұрын
Now I’m understanding Matthew 7:21-23 look it up !! God bless all who are standing for justice in the body of Christ and praying for Jonathan and Suzy ❤🙏🙏
@LonelyCreek
@LonelyCreek 6 күн бұрын
i know right
@sylviakohlman5653
@sylviakohlman5653 4 күн бұрын
Patricia king was also a part of Todd Bentley going into ministry , encouraged and supported him
@dixieleflore1409
@dixieleflore1409 6 күн бұрын
Joni has dirt on these ministries 😮
@leonabray1735
@leonabray1735 6 күн бұрын
You are right about the money It's abuse to the ones who gave.
@leonabray1735
@leonabray1735 6 күн бұрын
When you donate money every month and then find out about the corruption it is a heart break. We need to make a stand for the child.
@vikkiparker3770
@vikkiparker3770 6 күн бұрын
It would seem that she has not seen and heard all the evidence that we all have or how could she even say that. Bottom line Baby Lamb is the core, the rest of what Daystar is doing to keep our eyes off the core issue here and that is Baby Lamb. Suzy and Jonathan got pulled into that as a distraction but all of this is Baby Lamb
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
JONATHAN DIDN'T NEED TO BLACKMAIL ANYONE, AND IF HE WANTED TO HE WOULD HAVE DONE IT ALREADY. BUT HE ONLY EXPOSED WHAT HE HAD ALREADY GONE TO HIS MOTHER IN PRIVATE AS THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES US TO DO, ABOUT AND WHAT HE HAD BROUGHT BEFORE THE CHURCH AND THE DAYSTAR ORGANIZATION, BUT SHE REFUSED TO HEAR HIM OR SUBMIT TO THE TRUT, RATHER SHE INSISTED HE SUBMIT TO HER AND HER UGLY, ILLIGITIMATE, ADULTEROUS MARRIAGE, WHICH HE REFUSED TO DO, RESPECTING GOD'S WORD INSTEAD. THIS IS WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS TO EXPEL THEM FROM YOUR MIDST IF THEY REFUSE TO REPENT AND GIVE UP THEIR SIN. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT MEAN OR VINDICTIVE ON HIS PART, HE TRIED TO DO HIS BEST TO KEEP THE PEACE, BUT SHE KEPT POUNDING AT HIM TO SIGN THE NDA, NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT, SO THAT IF HE SAID ANYTHING OR EXPOSED THE TRUTH AT DAYSTAR, SHE WOULD HAVE LEGAL GROUNDS FOR FIRING HIM OR EVEN PROSECUTING HIM. SHE WAS SETTING UP HER OWN SON FOR PRISON! NOW THAT IS REALLY LOVE, RIGHT? ISN'T THAT WHAT CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT? YOU WOULD WONDER BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE PLACES THAT CALL THEMSELVES CHURCHES TODAY, ACT NOTHING LIKE THE LOVE OF GOD, OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH HOLINESS. INSTEAD THEY INSIST THAT THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND IT'S ALL SANCTIONED BY GOD. THEY ARE VERY DECEIVED.
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
What if the person denies it!! Um most predators of sex crimes do deny it
@jenniferrehbein821
@jenniferrehbein821 6 күн бұрын
Just based on the CHILDs words is enough to be brought to the police. Zero evidence except what the child said! They can figure it out!
@vickijensen-h3u
@vickijensen-h3u 6 күн бұрын
I remember Johanna Michaelson bringing these people out. 🙏 Be strong brother John. Thank you!
@pearlg3055
@pearlg3055 6 күн бұрын
Miss Patricia King...please wake up and see what is happened...why cover up for them
@ehi2283
@ehi2283 5 күн бұрын
If you love God and others, you will call out evil.
@charleshays5407
@charleshays5407 6 күн бұрын
Justin Peters said that she knew about Shawn Bolz’ antics, so who’s to say that she knew about Daystar?
@dalebaehr6060
@dalebaehr6060 6 күн бұрын
Justin is not an unbiased person, source. He has gotten a lot of accusations wrong.
@dianeliscom2583
@dianeliscom2583 6 күн бұрын
It’s looking like they all are being exposed. They clearly haven’t bothered to do any research on the Daystar debacle!! God is exposing them all!
@bw988
@bw988 6 күн бұрын
Maybe the brethren need to be acused, if they are involved in ungodly activities
@lovethegrandkids3732
@lovethegrandkids3732 6 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4elaWmufst5qs0si=-2HwwH9AZCsJVnqX
@carolynking6874
@carolynking6874 6 күн бұрын
We know the full complete story of Doug!!!! And Joni's sin in marrying him. Adultery.
@lindawiegering6398
@lindawiegering6398 6 күн бұрын
We’ve heard all sides of the story and it’s evident that Jonathan & Suzy are the ones who speak the truth.
@arlenedixon2547
@arlenedixon2547 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing this God bless you
@jeanniebeck5563
@jeanniebeck5563 6 күн бұрын
This woman talks out of both sides of her mouth! You call them out!
@DeborahFosen-hx3hv
@DeborahFosen-hx3hv 6 күн бұрын
The child has already been abused and affected for the rest of her life! A police investigation needs to take place, and the child must be protected from the person who trigures a response of fear from this little girl. Her parents have a better understanding than anyone else the response of their child around Pete. God's people are praying and speaking out that justice and protection for this child must be secured. Those who want to stand in the way of that justice are not representing the will of God.
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
EXACTLY! This is a *soft* denial of FACTS and a DENIAL of BABY LAMB'S testimony as well!!!
@kellyhiller3977
@kellyhiller3977 5 күн бұрын
I don't know this lady but a lot of what she's saying is wise..
@tilkurash4420
@tilkurash4420 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for speaking up!!
@SaintAbrana
@SaintAbrana 6 күн бұрын
THIS THING GOING ON WITH DAYSTAR IS BRING OUT THE PACK. SO NOT SURPRISE TO SEE PATRICIA WAYING IN. LOL
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
She's one of their leaders. Has been around longer than most of them.
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
With this Todd Bentley thing why oh why did they not keep him out of the ministry when it happened the first time?
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
SEEMS SHE IS MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE PERPS THANTHE SHEEP.!
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
WELL, HELLO, THAT'S WHAT THE INVESTIGATION IS FOR, AND THEY HAVE SQUELCHEDTHAT. JONI DOES NOT WANT PETE TO BE QUESTIONED BECAUSE HE HAS EVIDENCE AGAINST HER THAT COULD CONDEMN HER, AS WELL. TRUST ME, THIS IS DEEPER THAN ANYONE EXPECTS.
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
@@JaneDoe-sm2lm That's such a great point. What does Pete have on Joni?? Perhaps someone Joni cares about deeply is also the person that SA'd Rachel. If Joni exposes Pete, Pete will expose Joni's loved one who is also a perp. This would also explain why Joni gives Rachel free reign to act like a power-hungry fool all over Daystar & social media. Rachel appears to be the ONLY one of her children (& staff) that Joni will not "drop the hammer on" or attempt to control.
@paulahurst7145
@paulahurst7145 6 күн бұрын
In my view, we have here a false prophetess who is trying to pass herself off as a respectable Christian authority and leader while attempting to sound wise, fair, and balanced. She rambles in word salad rhetoric without saying what she thinks about the biblical responsibility of righteous believers to call out sin.
@debravan-aalst4723
@debravan-aalst4723 6 күн бұрын
Yeah,she’s is another NAR false teacher
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
@@paulahurst7145 Eloquently stated. Thank you sister.
@Friday-alma
@Friday-alma 6 күн бұрын
Don't even allow her on your channel, she's obviously on Joni's side! If she watched all the videos she wouldn't have all this doubt!
@rhondatarver7095
@rhondatarver7095 6 күн бұрын
I’ve known about Patricia King for a few decades. She has a reputation for protecting offenders of all sorts. $$$$$$
@kelliem1562
@kelliem1562 6 күн бұрын
Rachael Lb is the one posting evil things about the victim she needs to speak to that
@jodibryan3143
@jodibryan3143 5 күн бұрын
❤the WORD of the Lord IS THE BIBLE‼️✝️ I cannot stomach these big names protecting each other and proclaiming that they have a word 🤦🏼‍♀️ NONSENSE‼️
@couragedearheart2951
@couragedearheart2951 5 күн бұрын
If prophets are speaking true prophecy, why haven’t they gone to all these offenders and pointed the finger at them and said “Thou art the man!” ?
@DianeMiller-e5p
@DianeMiller-e5p 5 күн бұрын
Aren’t recordings of conversations and interviews of testimonies of witnesses / Dennis Boggs evidence
@Grandma428
@Grandma428 6 күн бұрын
Pat is talking out of both sides of her mouth, trying to keep herself in the neutral zone. But SA of a child, and ministry cover-ups, demand a firm stand. Or things end up swept under the rug. Tell the NT writers not to mention the sins of the early church while you’re at it. Those early church sins were not only spoken written in letters and read aloud, they even made it in scripture that we read today. Pat disappoints me, she sounds wishy-washy over serious issues. Not a time to turn your head, Pat.
@Friday-alma
@Friday-alma 6 күн бұрын
Please do not promote that SPIRIT OF ACCUSATION crap! That's the devil retaliation!
@denalowry8710
@denalowry8710 6 күн бұрын
If it is a minor even suspected or alleged abuse should be reported. Nurses, Teachers, etc are in most places mandated Reporters. It is lawlessness to not report it
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
Clergy and counselors churches are mandated reporters to
@friendoflife2416
@friendoflife2416 6 күн бұрын
Yes! I have had to report child sexual abuse before. It was not a pleasant thing to do but we have no other choice as adults. We are required by law to report it and then it is sorted out by the authorities
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
@ I’m a mandated reporter of all abuse too
@conniesharstrom2727
@conniesharstrom2727 6 күн бұрын
I’d rather rather see the child protected from the abuser and the abuse not of people who are supporting her and her family to get justice
@maggyjones4749
@maggyjones4749 6 күн бұрын
As goes the church, so goe the nation!
@SheridanMill-xy4sn
@SheridanMill-xy4sn 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely true however, God is doing a huge correction and reset of both! Praise his holy name!
@marciacarolwillbanks888
@marciacarolwillbanks888 6 күн бұрын
If you don’t know enough then justFind out then. Do research. There is actual documentation. Do the research.
@aprildonahue1984
@aprildonahue1984 5 күн бұрын
I may have misunderstood but it's ironic if she said we need to read the texts in context but it seems she doesn't read the word of God in context.
@LindaGray-k8f
@LindaGray-k8f 6 күн бұрын
Shame on Patricia, at least we are all seeing who are prideful and wolves in sheep’s clothing. Justice for little lamb.
@lanastedman7933
@lanastedman7933 6 күн бұрын
Especially during Covid, Joni and others on Daystar constantly referred to "social media" censorship and cancel culture. It doesn't matter if they are using pistols, darts or a bag of rocks, etc. The message is clear. Joni in particular has been calling Christians on KZbin (social media) fools. She has been attacking KZbin ministries. There are some KZbin videos that don't have merit. But there are those who do. That's the case among physical churches and Television ministries as well.
@Peonia-Melbourne
@Peonia-Melbourne 6 күн бұрын
I will tell you why it's hitting a very bit nerve to a lot of the main line preachers and teachers online with NO accountability, That's it!!! There's No accountability and so they're all frightened because it could be them scrutinized too eventually
@heatherarthur6232
@heatherarthur6232 6 күн бұрын
God’s army are standing up for truth and righteousness something that has been badly lacking in the church.
@HeartAliveToday
@HeartAliveToday 5 күн бұрын
@@heatherarthur6232 Amen! Amen!
@dianachurch3408
@dianachurch3408 5 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed your podcast .
@dorothynegash5425
@dorothynegash5425 5 күн бұрын
I thought we did away with word salads with Kamala!!
@LLH-mb1sg
@LLH-mb1sg 5 күн бұрын
Apparently not!
@VanessaThomlinson-w8f
@VanessaThomlinson-w8f 5 күн бұрын
I love that Vanessa that we are exercising our fear of the Lord that’s what they lack!!
@bsusie1
@bsusie1 6 күн бұрын
Patricia King, the lady that tokes the Word of God then pretends she got high. She’s definitely not anyone that has credibility.
@denalowry8710
@denalowry8710 6 күн бұрын
Patricia this (defamation) is not the same issue as alleged abuse. You are wrong in this
@clcarol268
@clcarol268 6 күн бұрын
Thank you John for your love of Jesus and godly podcasts . Glad you got your car back. Thank you for the research on Sean Feute I thought so in my spirit.
@darlenemendenhall3017
@darlenemendenhall3017 5 күн бұрын
Greed at its best. Save the children. Praise YAH
@theguardian1140
@theguardian1140 6 күн бұрын
To a point she’s right. But not in this case. There is receipts, audios, witnesses and more. She is another grifter who is protecting the evil ones. SHE is misrepresenting the Word which tells us NOT to allow sin in the church. She’s another disgrace and is not of The Lord
@T.Justus
@T.Justus 6 күн бұрын
Yes
@theguardian1140
@theguardian1140 6 күн бұрын
She is incorrect. She is saying that the accuser will come against the Brethren but without understanding that if WE don’t clean up the church, he will have a reason to attack. She has no wisdom sadly. Give NO room for the evil one
@T.Justus
@T.Justus 6 күн бұрын
@@theguardian1140 I agree her response is incomplete with some ignorance to the whole situation
@GlendaSealey
@GlendaSealey 6 күн бұрын
I Don t want listen to her.. 💔
@pearlg3055
@pearlg3055 6 күн бұрын
What if there is SA in Patricia King ministry or family
@WinstonSibongile
@WinstonSibongile 5 күн бұрын
An open public discussion of clergy sexual abuse began in 1975 with the Catholic Church in Louisiana, followed by Boston in the 1980's, into the 2000s in the Southern Baptist Church. The lessons on how to respond have been there all this time. Instead, most evangelicals and charismatics gloated and said they're not like us. It doesn't happen here. The responses from the charismatics to widespread sexual abuse in their camp has been from the deniers playbook, circle the wagons, look the other way, down play severity, attack victims, and on. It appears that the charismatics who are repeating the "season of accusation" claims have huddled together, discussed how their response, and are reading from the same memo. In politics it is called the "talking points memo" where one entity drafts the response, distributes it, and the individual politicians repeat it. Wake up people, this is the same playbook.
@dalebaehr6060
@dalebaehr6060 6 күн бұрын
Sadly, Patricia is NOT called to be a Church leader/ Pastor - rebellious. But not saying she is not saved or not doing good works or not a righteous woman. Any leader, particularly a local leader to the leader in or if one is a leader with a national platform, absolutely has the responsibility to call out or hold other elders accountable. She leaning more on emotions/ feeling....
@DeborahSpeaksTruth
@DeborahSpeaksTruth 6 күн бұрын
Women are more easily deceived
@marciacarolwillbanks888
@marciacarolwillbanks888 6 күн бұрын
Christians should do extensive research to get correct information so that they’re not ashamed when it all comes out. Listening to this I can see she questions her conscience in all this.
@DeeDeeIsAwake
@DeeDeeIsAwake 5 күн бұрын
Judy Boggs has the recording of Marcus Lamb, on his deathbed stating that he wanted Jonathan and Suzy, Rebecca and her husband and Rachel on the Daystar stage. He did not list Rachel’s husband ‘Pete’. There must be a reason.
@Peonia-Melbourne
@Peonia-Melbourne 6 күн бұрын
There's a lot of christians that feel entitled to marry and remarry as they please, This became a huge issue too because technically, Jonathon's argument is that even tho Joni is the head now her adulterous husband is the head as in Joni's eyes, So that's not ok for Jonathon and Suzy to come under them in submission, as they do not believe that it's Godly, I believe this is correct, if Joni and Doug were in any church they would have to step down (Doug Chose to divorce his christian wife, making up a whole big excuse) Joni so desperate took the bait and has left those who have been by her side in the cold. It's Ok Jonathon because of his stand for righteousness will go on - God will make a way, Unfortunately for Joni and Doug God will deal with them for what they've done, totally unrepentant for their actions. They will not get away with it, trust me, King David suffered because of his actions, King Solomon did and many others. But those will be more accountable that are the Head in Ministry.
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
YES, SHE IS NOT DOING HER JOB, THE BIBLE SAYS TO REPROVE THEM, AND WHERE THERE IS SIN TO EXPOSE IT!
@marciacarolwillbanks888
@marciacarolwillbanks888 6 күн бұрын
Criminal and the child needs support not cover up!!!!
@claudiacochran9770
@claudiacochran9770 5 күн бұрын
I did feel like Joni and Doug were intimidating Johnathan, Susie and any other people that might stand up against them.
@Friday-alma
@Friday-alma 6 күн бұрын
Joni must have something on this woman! Why are you giving her air time???😮
@JaneDoe-sm2lm
@JaneDoe-sm2lm 6 күн бұрын
YES AND WHEN I WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PASTOR, WHO USED TO BE GOOD FRIENDS AND HUNG OUT WITH PAUL CAIN FOR YEARS, THEY GOT VERY NERVOUS AND STARTED SLANDERING ME, TRYING TO MAKE MY CREDIBILITY NILL SO THAT NO ONE WOULD BELIEVE ME WHEN i SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING FUNNY GOING ON.
@kurtnlisalewis
@kurtnlisalewis 6 күн бұрын
Falling stars …. Falling day stars and falling morning stars and falling Hollywood stars . The stars will fall from the high places.
@danielah-7
@danielah-7 5 күн бұрын
1:54:39 It is necromancy! Catholic and Orthodox priests also do all sorts of witchcraft rituals about the dead and teach people that they must do for their loved ones after they die.
@rosekelleher1094
@rosekelleher1094 6 күн бұрын
Laura lynn..the music is very distracting. Thank you so much
@kellyhiller3977
@kellyhiller3977 5 күн бұрын
Love her haircut tho👍🏼
@rolandlorettereumerman7945
@rolandlorettereumerman7945 6 күн бұрын
that grave soaking is very creepy and i think it is an abomination to the Lord!
@michellebeauchamp1189
@michellebeauchamp1189 6 күн бұрын
The bible says to mark those that are unruly
@gwenmitchell1813
@gwenmitchell1813 6 күн бұрын
The leader should call in the law. The leader does not need evidence. Thats the laws job.
@kimlee1416
@kimlee1416 6 күн бұрын
I certainly think Amanda Grace is very good. But everyone will have their own opinions.
@markscott4830
@markscott4830 6 күн бұрын
I am going to send a private email describing a first hand experience with P KIng and Xpmedia and they do not practice what they preach
@claudiacochran9770
@claudiacochran9770 5 күн бұрын
I do agree with what Patricia says 100%
@Marlaina
@Marlaina 5 күн бұрын
Then you haven't been paying attention to any of this either
@gwenmitchell1813
@gwenmitchell1813 6 күн бұрын
How can evidence be evaluated if you're afraid to tell what you know?
@PamMichalik
@PamMichalik 5 күн бұрын
I know this comment is after the video but the Patricia King video comes across as having been "scripted" by Joni like the other things she(Joni) attempted to and did manipulate. It's transparent. Really makes you wonder what it is that Joni is holding over some of these people who are still sticking with her no matter how ridiculous they sound with their excuses.
@Grandma428
@Grandma428 6 күн бұрын
Vanessa is awesome! Already watched her video.
@antheapayne9416
@antheapayne9416 5 күн бұрын
It is clear these big names have not investigated this matter and the facts and are just giving a generic self righteous warning !
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