The most important person is the granddaughter who has been sexually abused, I stand in prayer over this little girl.
@jennyc5100Ай бұрын
Agreed.
@bigsurge5906Ай бұрын
So who abused the granddaughter?
@bigsurge5906Ай бұрын
@@Tjammswhat? Which side ? Not Susie's brother ?
@cherelann63Ай бұрын
Yet he performs a marriage to a divorced man to joni which is was not on biblical grounds...very hypocritical
@dalebaehr6060Ай бұрын
Joni and Jimmy are correct about employees needing to submit and uphold the company's goals, vision, mission statement,etc.. It appears Jonathan and Suzy are doing so except their one conviction. A loving mom would honor this considering it is only about reading viewer comments (BTW, only positive ones). My word! Grow up. Now, Jonathan and Suzy need to show respect and love to Doug, particularly at Daystar. Joni and Jimmy are manipulative and spoke some things that aren't not good or biblically accurate.
@leeking6185Ай бұрын
I am 70 years old today. I was saved when I was 5 years old. Young man, forget Daystar. RUN! THE LORD WILL CARE FOR YOU.
@annemurphy9339Ай бұрын
I couldn’t believe how Joni kept threatening that he was about to get hell! How evil can anyone be?!?
@SongoftheBrideАй бұрын
Well you and I should be sisters - maybe twins lol. I will be 70 this December and I too asked Jesus into my heart at age 5. What the wolves today are doing to the reputation of Jesus is so angering and so saddening. I am thankful to the Lord for all the exposure that has happened this year and Lord willing more to come. I worked for Jimmy Swaggart from 2010-2011 and was shocked to see what I saw first-hand there. He too is a horrible wolf behind the scenes and I look forward to seeing what the Lord will expose in those Baton Rouge leaders! The Lord bless you sister/brother, and may He give you the best year yet!
@alisonkulatea2989Ай бұрын
Yes agree
@JoanneArc-or9srАй бұрын
Amen
@octoberjubilee9866Ай бұрын
Amen. The Lord is revealing that which has been concealed, Luke 8:17, and separating the wheat and tares.
@sallylarson882Ай бұрын
I don’t care about their issue with Doug but her burying the molestation of their granddaughter is reprehensible!!!
@sonneversets3530Ай бұрын
God’s got a few millstones waiting, if they don’t repent.
@susiek8475Ай бұрын
Yes, that’s totally it and the part where I think the only part there was a bleep was when she brought up the molester‘s name which is probably Joshua Brown. Forget about Doug the horrific thing they were told to Barry just like Joni is doing right now is a criminal offenseand honestly, I wish Jonathan would get more of a backbone.
@breccar.5881Ай бұрын
Yes! Throughout this conversation Joni continuously represents herself and her new husband as victims.
@sallylarson882Ай бұрын
@@susiek8475or ANY backbone!!
@karie431Ай бұрын
I do. He has so much influence over Joni. Two become one....one spirit. If he has a bad spirit and they "know" one another then that same bad spirit joins her...
@vergeREVO18 күн бұрын
So cringe how they are treating manipulating & gaslighting. Jonathan has so much integrity, honor, and humility.
@kath2ndrew16 күн бұрын
I can't believe he stayed in that meeting and took it as long as he did!
@lencholeta24543 күн бұрын
But im on Jony's side. If she and daystar did all they said they did to them and to their child, why not leave on their own? They want to keep the job but still keep complaining?
@kath2ndrew3 күн бұрын
@@lencholeta2454 Working with Family is not easy, however what happened is considered a criminal offense and should have been dealt with properly, with the law! Why should they leave their jobs, in particular Jonathan who is "heir to the throne" so to speak, when they are the victims? He was very wise to have her fire them, because they have grounds to sue! They have this on tape and the fact that she asked Jimmy to be there is unbelievable, they were both bullies, and it is obvious she wanted control! Now she has resigned and who knows what will happen!
@Jjandresoficial1Ай бұрын
35 years as a pastor does not mean God is still with that person much less God's wisdom.
@sharoncrawford7192Ай бұрын
Amen. I've been saved over 45 yrs. I've seen a couple of pastors with not much wisdom.
@oneofseven4262Ай бұрын
God uses teenagers to be great for his work (David), as well as, the elderly (Moses). He was out of line to brag about his decades of marriage experience. God gives wisdom, insight and blessing to the young. The older one, may have stopped listening, or fallen into pride - no blessing from God there. This young couple was not treated well. Disagreement is not disrespect. What Christian says, "no, I'm not going to give you time to pray about it"? God is never in a hurry.
@daringgreatly8473Ай бұрын
If they have so much conviction then they should have quit but instead they kept their huge paycheck until they were fired. Who gets to treat their boss this way and keep their job for so long?
@paularohde6666Ай бұрын
Exactly @@daringgreatly8473
@arieldrake929Ай бұрын
💯
@hanakoАй бұрын
This is absolutely psychological, emotional, spiritual, and financial ABUSE.
@thyswifeyАй бұрын
Yep
@tamimoncrief2264Ай бұрын
Joni, this is EVIL, manipulative, and abusive. Jimmy, how you talked to Jonathan and Suzy is disgusting and abusive. You are Jonis hench man. Now we know who you both are.
@ritapoirier1870Ай бұрын
Agree
@em77775Ай бұрын
Also like a spiritual ganging up on her own son and daughter in law, saying she spoke to some other people (what was said? it could have easily been manipulated) so she could force them to simply OBEY her.
@Neon806Ай бұрын
Not even close! You have no idea what it is to deal with insubordinate rebellious employees. It is more complicated because it is a ministry and even more since it is a family.
@kelleykdavisifyАй бұрын
Am I getting this right? Joni wants her son to read a letter that verifies or gives approval of her current marriage. Daystar doesn't exist to verify anyone's marriage, It exists to magnify the name of Jesus.
@sabine3769Ай бұрын
Apparently it exists to glorify Joni
@NextfamousfaceАй бұрын
Amen!
@Romans109Psalm91Ай бұрын
Amen
@Maranatha1927Ай бұрын
@@sabine3769 TRUTH!
@Maranatha1927Ай бұрын
🎯🎯🎯
@pamelathompson431020 күн бұрын
This is such a very one sided conversation. And Jimmy Evans as well as Joni should be ashamed of themselves. I can only imagine what God must think of what is happening here. This is wrong in sooooo many ways.
@Bob3141529 күн бұрын
Notice how if someone disagrees with Jimmy Evans he refers to it as "rebellion" and if someone disagrees with Joni it's "witchcraft and idolatry".
@kimward551328 күн бұрын
Exactly! Sick
@kimward551328 күн бұрын
How about the idolatry and pride Joni and Jimmy have in THEIR Opinions. I am a 61 Year old Mother- and do not tolerate disrespect. But this is Not it. Joni and Jimmy wake up- ask God to show you your PRIDE
@divamarysia27 күн бұрын
Jimmy Evan is Narcissist disguise as religion counselor. God gives each one of us the gift 🎁 of discernment and believe me he is one of those that doesn't sit well on my spirit.
@Free2Dream27 күн бұрын
But nobody asked WHY they don’t like Doug???
@Bob3141526 күн бұрын
@@Free2Dream Because he divorced his wife (of 30 some years) without grounds and married another woman thereby commiting adultery.
@deborah3912Ай бұрын
Laura Lynn Tyler Thompson has announced her ministry is leaving Daystar, I hope many more ministry leaders will follow.
@karenmartin4221Ай бұрын
I cannot imagine how anyone would want to stay. Not counting Jimmy…who’s on the payroll!$$$
@CFGossettAbbasHealingArtsАй бұрын
I saw Laura Lynn's video last night, and she has every right to leave Daystar. Personally, I expect more ministries to pull their programs from the network. All of this is making me sad.
@Nvrmnd431Ай бұрын
Good move😊
@deborah3912Ай бұрын
@@CFGossettAbbasHealingArts I agree, and all this stems from Suzy being SA'd by a chiropractor Marcus hired and J&S's daughter being SA'd by Joni's son-in-law. They like so many other ministries are trying to cover up CSA and financial malfeasance. Ethnos 360 does the same, many mission groups and churches are in the same boat as Daystar. Our LORD never meant for these mega ministries to exist, this is not the Christianity of the Savior.
@cookiegalleria3837Ай бұрын
Laura Lynn shows godly courage and honesty.
@monikabond2359Ай бұрын
An adult son is capable of making his own decision, and does not need to be bullied into submission by his mother and her husband whom he does not approve of.
@wwewingsАй бұрын
His wife is the one bullying that son!!
@colleentimeisupАй бұрын
Is he? He apparently couldn't make any decisions when the alleged S A happened
@JesusAlways1stАй бұрын
Not one time did the wife or Jonathan call out Joni in this conversation when Joni mentioned the SA twice. If the SA was really true, I would have told Joni she was lying at the top of my lungs saying the SA didn’t happened. Neither Susie nor Jonathan said anything to defend their daughter!!
@LawandaFinchАй бұрын
@@wwewingsno not really
@LawandaFinchАй бұрын
@@wwewingsshe literally wants them to read a statement praising Doug. Why should she have to that. It’s narcissistic.
@angelacarter738519 күн бұрын
We are in the season of exposure !!
@FranrayWilliams3 күн бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@PastorBillyThompsonАй бұрын
May Jonathan, Suzy and their children be delivered completely from this situation, and establish in a better place.
@barbarazawolo9381Ай бұрын
Amen and Amen!!🙏
@dolorescompean1507Ай бұрын
Thank you pastor for seeing thru this
@bridgetmerritt8344Ай бұрын
@PastorBillyThompson Jonathan should have delivered his own family after Suzie claimed she was sexually assaulted by the chiropractor and then when they claimed their daughter was assaulted too. Seems a little strange to me but that's my own opinion.
@BrendaLerma-y6fАй бұрын
Amen and Amen
@stacy2595Ай бұрын
Yes and amen.
@KarengwillsАй бұрын
Joni and Jimmy never let these kids finish one sentence.
@ErikaAlexisLopez7421Ай бұрын
💕Narcs don’t let people speak 🗣️ 💕👸🏻
@lauriedrew3374Ай бұрын
Amen let them talk
@prvbs_31Ай бұрын
It was so frustrating.
@Wanda4849Ай бұрын
Jimmy and Joni come across as self-important narcissists.
@Sheri453Ай бұрын
cz they can't handle or have a defence for the truth out of Jon and Suzy's mouth
@BibiSarjudeen-k4qАй бұрын
My heart cried for Johnathon 😢he said three times " mom i love " a soft spoken man with a humble heart. You are like my son God will take care for and your family. 😢😢
@nelidamurphy1175Ай бұрын
It’s heartbreaking
@star8562Ай бұрын
His wife has him by the balls. Poor guy
@jonestacaraАй бұрын
@@BibiSarjudeen-k4q so did she
@heidib9275Ай бұрын
It’s clear she knows Jonathan has a sweet and submissive disposition and she abuses it! Joni is guilty of pride, greed, spiritual abuse, and she will suffer an end similar to Jezebels because she allows the Jezebel spirit to rule in her life. She is Jezebelian in her actions and words.
@barbarapease9686Ай бұрын
Yes,God WILL Bless and Protect Johnathan and Suzie 🙏🙏🙏
@prodigalpursuit19 күн бұрын
I am praying for you Jonathon and Suzy. You are both listening to God and doing the right thing! You will have a great ministry in Jesus name Amen
@JustineShapiro-y8gАй бұрын
This was so hard to listen to. The amount of emotional and spiritual abuse in the conversation is heartbreaking.
@cynthiahamlin8059Ай бұрын
Totally
@smcconnell2200Ай бұрын
Not to mention foul language.
@jacquelineshuttleton3489Ай бұрын
My blood is boiling by this abuse manipulating control . Get to the real issue. SA of a minor & cover up
@spacecowgirl13Ай бұрын
My heart is grieved for them.
@anonymous-kv2oeАй бұрын
truly agree
@quik100Ай бұрын
Jimmy Evans is the wrong person to be "shepherding" this discussion. He is the one that gave Joni and Doug approval to get married even tho there were questions. Evans is protecting his "reputation".
@oliverkent8429Ай бұрын
That was pathetic when he sat in front of Joni telling her the marriage was ok
@tah2606Ай бұрын
Heretic.
@Beyondme7700Ай бұрын
Reputation of abusing his wife he talked abt that on his show...so
@kjohn53Ай бұрын
Bingo
@Allison-io6ypАй бұрын
Exactly!
@ThruTheLukingGlass1726 күн бұрын
I think it’s a little odd after 30 years of marriage that Doug filed for divorce two months after Marcus passed.
@Es_Elle25 күн бұрын
🎯
@communingwithGod24 күн бұрын
Same can't believe this.
@shirleywells208724 күн бұрын
Well Marcus did cheat on his wife at one time,more to it than meets the eye.
@educatedrespected560424 күн бұрын
@@shirleywells2087EXACTLY!!! This drama is so carnal; I'm 73 & have dealt with all of these issues & see it as typical life. The immature "kids" need to stop their drama & go get a job elsewhere.
@offiongokon690124 күн бұрын
In Africa, they would have said she killed her husband 😂
@pamelathompson431020 күн бұрын
I stopped watching Daystar many years ago because I had a very strong feeling in my spirit that something was really wrong with this network.There were times when I questioned that because I saw nothing come from it and now here it is. It has come full fold and the facts are here for all to see and hear.Sometimes we just have to learn to trust what God shows us and not doubt.
@brendakdyar11 күн бұрын
They are FAKE
@Jamie-b1e10 күн бұрын
Same!
@teresagray14778 күн бұрын
When she lost her husband, she spoke about how he was her soul mate, love of her life. Sure didn't take her long to remarry.
@barbaragermain3713Ай бұрын
Forcing someone to respect a Bully is Sickening.
@DeborahWilcox-d4wАй бұрын
You are correct it’s just sickening
@susanbutler3913Ай бұрын
Yes it is! Listening to this is sickening
@valeriemcgill5511Ай бұрын
What's SICKENING is that Jonathon is secretly taping his mom behind her back, without her knowing. As if they are trying to get their mom to say something they can use against her, to take her down from Daystar so that he, Jonathon and his wife Suzie could take over the Daystar Network, Why else would they be secretly taping his own mom. I think that is evil and shameful.
@mimiparris86Ай бұрын
@@valeriemcgill5511no, it is not!!!!! It needs to be aired... People need too see how mean these two...are..
@sueleahy1457Ай бұрын
@@valeriemcgill5511 they had several mtgs before and it sounds to me that they taped this mtg so their words can't be twisted or used against them. Jimmy is being a bully period. They should hv had an independent, unbias arbitrator. Joni is being egotistical. I pray GOD will shine a light onto this darkness in this ministry.
@angelaspaulАй бұрын
I will never listen to Jimmy Evans again! WOW! Thanks for sharing this!
@susanramsey4875Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@petrahuisman5117Ай бұрын
Me too...
@NM-ze3dhАй бұрын
He is soo creepy, Money Boss Joni
@elizabethnaidoo7994Ай бұрын
Me too
@sabrinasanchez3753Ай бұрын
Jimmy is so controlling! I have no respect for him for what he's standing for! Just wow!!🙏
@karenmartin4221Ай бұрын
This is disturbing. It’s frightening to me how the amount of power Joni & Jimmy Evans have granted to themselves. I absolutely cannot imagine siding against my child or children in order to be with someone of “Dr. Doug’s” caliber.
@amisam8176Ай бұрын
Not to mention what Joni and Marcus did to their 5 year old granddaughter.
@southernette6750Ай бұрын
@@amisam8176yes despicable
@wonderingchild1Ай бұрын
@@amisam8176I’ve only heard of a cover up. If that happened to my child. Evans would shut the hell up and ppl would be in prison when I’m done. But now crickets! Cover up and distraction! A multimillion $ biz!
@lawron2Ай бұрын
That's how satan works.
@user-wt9xe1sr2iАй бұрын
That guy is not a "Doctor" he is a "SEX"therapist..that didn't want to stay in his marriage of 30 years..When Fame and Money knocked on hos door ...he opened it wide..ans Joni let him in..A wolf in sheep's clothing...This is a Blotch on the Body of Christ .and it's being displayed for the whole world to see
@dianadistefano-hart505120 күн бұрын
They shouldn't be manipulated to speak positive on her mom's marriage if they don't agree to it they shouldn't be forced to
@KydSyster20Ай бұрын
First of all…the foul language from Joni….I know she’s cursing up a storm now this recording has been released….and Jimmy is a bully….SHE IS NOT THE VOICE OF GOD….GOD IS THE VOICE OF GOD…. I agree….her relationship is not about ministry so why they have to read a comment about it is beyond me….I hope this opens up many people’s eyes regarding spiritual abuse and manipulation….I am glad he recorded this to end the speculation.
@sharoncrawford7192Ай бұрын
I do too. It's out there, and just plan sickening. These people come out of the Church of God, Cleveland Tenn.. My husband was raised in that church. For many years they were legalistic. Now they have went to far the other way. We left that denomination many yrs ago. There are some that follow the Sheperding Ministry on submission. That leaders are to be submitted to no matter what. That the leader is "The man of God, and you accept whatever he says. Because as the leader, he hears the voice of God. That's what this whole interveiw reminds me of. It's very cultist.
@JMRNaquinАй бұрын
I was in shock to hear the language she used.
@monicasoyombo3360Ай бұрын
The whole thing is wild….fr fr
@gailsmith615229 күн бұрын
The way Joni speaks to her son and daughter-in-law is disgusting. There are too many instances in this recording where I heard the true Joni come out. She speaks about stubbornness being like witchcraft, but how about her own stubbornness?
@claudiaheathington604927 күн бұрын
I am surprised at Joni’s language. Not of God for sure. Sad. But showing her true face.
@HollyWrightMinistriesАй бұрын
As a Christian marriage counselor, I vehemently disagree with the counsel of Jimmy Evans! So many red flags. I CRINGED every time he opened his mouth! He boasts about his 40 years of marriage counseling. I would had never pegged him as a marriage counselor, let alone a counselor, while listening to this.
@robinl6659Ай бұрын
I AM SO REPULSED by Evans counsel!
@renerickman2208Ай бұрын
Disgusting bullying
@Horsewoman-pt2kuАй бұрын
Jimmi Evan’s has lost all credibility after hiding SA in gateway church. Shame on him
@roseeverett-martin2057Ай бұрын
Devilish
@taraalbright9298Ай бұрын
@@Horsewoman-pt2ku 💯
@feebee7621Ай бұрын
The late Pastor Derek Prince always said that when someone is operating in witchcraft, one can always recognize it by three characteristics…manipulation, intimidation and domination. From the sounds of this audio I’m hearing those characteristics coming out of Joni and Jimmy…NOT Suzy and Jonathan. I’m just sick to my stomach. I personally had to repent for being so deceived for all these years thinking Daystar was true Christian broadcasting. I’m so grateful that God revealed the truth and that HE corrects those whom HE loves. May HIS perfect will be done.
@sassytude1858Ай бұрын
You need to listen to Suzy closely. It’s not that difficult to understand - narcissistic attitude!
@Nolly1960Ай бұрын
Amen..
@christinap9620Ай бұрын
Yes, Joni Lamb is in an adulterous relationship .Period
@gabbyheusser6503Ай бұрын
I can relate and have had to repent for my deception as well with many Christian ministers. We need to look into people more and their doctrines and character-not just anointing and gifts. God is maturing us!
@marlenecarter1416Ай бұрын
Joni and Jimmy are displaying the spirit of witchcraft
@lolly551917 күн бұрын
Why is she forcing them to accept her husband? They have a right to feel the way they feel because they have their reasons. She needs to stop blowing it out of proportion. Instead she needs to win them over with Love. She’s the one that’s making a judgement.
@DeborahJoyner-f8q5 күн бұрын
Joni was told do that by Tony Evans
@Dietellj23 сағат бұрын
She isn't telling them to accept her husband but they're taking that resentment to work and it's affecting the working environment. So as their boss she's entitled to call them out.
@lolly551917 сағат бұрын
@ but isn’t she forcing them to read a letter regarding a positive comment about her husband and their f the don’t they’re being rebellious and have a spirit of witchcraft?
@LawandaFinchАй бұрын
She literally fired her kids over not reading a nice fake comment about Doug! Unbelievable!
@kathyjones4869Ай бұрын
@@LawandaFinch Joni is also enraged because Suzy wants her daughter’s abuser to pay for what they did!!
@BrendaLerma-y6fАй бұрын
Joni’s putting Doug and Jimmy Evans above her own son. I feel horrible for Jonathan. That’s got to hurt deep. May God take control over that Network and have His way.
@brendabell6310Ай бұрын
Why was it necessary that they read that. She knew they don't approve of him. Why didn't she get one of the others to read it. She is being influenced by the wrong power. Don't tell them you love them BUT!! My idea would be "don't love me" be nice to me.
@theresadagenais7698Ай бұрын
That works both ways
@SherribuTXАй бұрын
Who said the viewers comment is fake?
@OneONoneShowcase-zx2vg28 күн бұрын
He is grieving the loss of his father, what happened to his daughter, and now his mother treating them this way.
@kristinesugala449228 күн бұрын
Jonny love so much her second husband than her children maybe better they separate.
@azalit961427 күн бұрын
@OneONoneShowcase-zx2vg I agree 100%..He misses hia daddy!
@girloffaith921027 күн бұрын
@@OneONoneShowcase-zx2vg no they rude and disrespectful. All Joni is asking is for them to also acknowledge her husband. The script they supposed to read is back to you Joni and Dough but these two hardheaded refuses to do so. I mean Joni is the boss do what she requested or quit or get fired. It is biblical for her to put her husband first.
@junegant456326 күн бұрын
Jonathan needs to grow up. The wisest thing he could ever do would be to submit to his mom. But he won't. He can't stand up to Susy.
@grannylindaanne19 күн бұрын
@@OneONoneShowcase-zx2vg it’s so sad for him such a loving son husband and father
@shamyeezy349Ай бұрын
You shouldn’t watch a “Christian ministry” channel where the employees job is NOT to talk about GOD but to make their boss happy. At that point it had lost all validity as a Gospel spreading network. Simple.
@dananelson8487Ай бұрын
Day star is a prosperity gospel network and this type of gospel is not biblical. It's nice to here Jonathan and suzi knowing what the bible actually says.
@hollyhock3945Ай бұрын
Amen
@ElizabethCanfield-x9eАй бұрын
Johnathan needs to go out and get a job in the secular world to see what life is really all about. So true you, Johnathan have been living I. A bubble. When you have left daystar and ther protection and see what it is really .Ike to live your faith, then I think you will know what Jimmy Evans was talking about, I got from the last part of the recording when your mom was asking for a direct commentment that in reality you now how hard it would be to get another job because of being protected all you life. The best thing you can do is Leave , believe me it will help you grow up, especially spiritually . You will feel much better about yourself. Liz, an old lady almost 80. I had to put my son out of my house when he was 18. No job and no place to live.Guess what in his 30's he came back and thanked me for it.
@charmaynecloete8303Ай бұрын
This is the reason people don't want to follow Christ. Senior people thinking they God...... I love Father God but oh my goodness these 2 is using God for their own benefits
@charmaynecloete8303Ай бұрын
POOR JOHNATHAN
@ginawilbanks284618 күн бұрын
“Your job is not to talk about God , it’s to do what she says “ oh my dear goodness , that says everything . May God truly protect these two kids
@GFB29Ай бұрын
Jonathan, thanks for recording this epic spiritual abuse. May God protect you and your family.
@JaniceVineyard-kf6wmАй бұрын
Turn fully to Jesus.
@graceijnАй бұрын
pastor jimmys evans is a fraud
@marge-bg4znАй бұрын
@@GFB29 Imagine telling anyone they have to make any decision without praying about it first. They really do see themselves as “little gods”
@xolovetashАй бұрын
This is exactly what this is spiritual abuse
@Kai-i7wАй бұрын
Amen!
@dominiquebraithwaite8252Ай бұрын
This is heartbreaking. Forcing them to approve of their relationship? The absolute bullying? OMG!
@joycethomas3549Ай бұрын
It was hard to listen to and to say these are Christians? Hard to tell apart from quoting a book from John Bevere and a scripture or two!Such a shame! You can’t force them to support your adulterous relationship Joni? She can’t do what Joni wants. Jonathan and Suzy’s Job is to talk about God not you and nor Jimmy. You are losers!
@claudiacorvi2286Ай бұрын
There's TWO separate relationships here...they are family AND they are employees!! If they wanna carry on working at Daystar they need to submit!! The Word of God tells us!! Period!! Its a spirit of rebellion and bitterness they both have!! It's plain to see!!
@dominiquebraithwaite8252Ай бұрын
@claudiacorvi2286 Would you have submitted to someone bullying/ forcing you to do something that your convictions are against?
@light-r8bАй бұрын
@@dominiquebraithwaite8252 No, Then they need to quit, and find somewhere else that fits their convictions.
@dominiquebraithwaite8252Ай бұрын
@@light-r8b Easy for you to say. Have a great day and God bless.
@katherinemitchell9003Ай бұрын
Wow, Joni’s foul mouth and Jimmy Evans is a bully! I am praying for Jonathan and Suzy!
@samgentry7215Ай бұрын
Yes....just terrible
@TaflynMassarАй бұрын
I never knew that Joni could be so manipulative and I've lost all respect for her
@onlyonethingisneedfulАй бұрын
Very bullying
@Connie-61Ай бұрын
Exactly. What I was thinking
@riapelser6388Ай бұрын
True!
@Lilredperk20 күн бұрын
I’m both appalled and devastated at this situation. These two so called Christians should be ashamed of themselves. I will never support them in this behavior. I’m absolutely disgusted by what I’m hearing.
@IAmHisBeloved5Ай бұрын
Control, Manipulation, Pride, Spiritual Abuse, etc. This is so grievous. I feel like I’m about to throw up (literally). I’m so glad that I didn’t ignore what God showed me while working at Daystar. I left days later.
@thediannevАй бұрын
I agree. This was sickening to hear! The manipulation, control and gaslighting is off the charts. God bless Jonathan and Suzy.
@IAmHisBeloved5Ай бұрын
@ very!
@veniceliston1618Ай бұрын
You worked there did you feel this going on while you were there ..
@ShannonBrennan-po3syАй бұрын
Good more like, GOD, for you!!! The spiritual manipulation is off beyond evil with these people!! It is really really good to see all the support for Jonathan and Suzy!! May God protect them and comfort him for the revelation of who his mother really is. It's VERY disturbing, and this Jimmy Evans guy has no credibility after that display of "guidance" and "mediation!!!!" Talk about witchcraft!
@gilbertwilkerson7922Ай бұрын
❤ 💯 agree
@KSU-ce2ucАй бұрын
Just my opinion, Jimmy Evans really agitated that whole situation beyond repair.
@matthewcraig8926Ай бұрын
Agree
@LawandaFinchАй бұрын
💯💯💯
@Emie8230Ай бұрын
56:05 “This is the hill you’ll DIE on.” Wow!
@mason-dixon-northАй бұрын
YES!!
@kellinellis985Ай бұрын
Absolutely. I was getting the same impression. Disappointing.
@Kmg0032420 күн бұрын
That is so ridiculous that Joni Lamb expects an adult son to form this great relationship with her new husband. That in itself is delusional!
@kathyhogan418211 күн бұрын
They just had to give a viewer comment. Not have a relationship with him.
@Kmg0032411 күн бұрын
@@kathyhogan4182 she also stated in multiple meetings that she wanted her son to work on his relationship with Doug Weiss and this is what my comment referenced; the DayStar viewer comment was a different issue, anybody could have read that viewer comment, mandating her son do it was her attempt at manipulating her son and controlling the narrative regarding her relationship to Doug Weiss.
@Diamondkiwi1410 күн бұрын
Especially since if Joni dies first Doug as spouse is main heir and gets Daystar…Jonathan is literally is trying to protect his families legacy.
@Diamondkiwi1410 күн бұрын
@@kathyhogan4182That’s like saying just read this positive comment about abortion if you are prolife. By reading that positive comment your are endorsing that sin. Jonathan believes Doug who left his wife of 30 years and his mom are adulterers. And Doug is set up as spouse as main heir and he gets Daystar is Joni were to die first.
@dclay74788 күн бұрын
@kathyhogan4182 YEAH, A 'A VIEWER COMMENT', most likely FABRICATED, by joni? In her DESPERATE, BLINDED, SEX/GLAZED, ATTEMPT, To PRESENT doug, as EVERYTHING positive, that he IS NOT!@@ HOW CAN A MOTHER CHOOSE A man??? Over her FAMILY!?@😢
@psalm91Jesus092 күн бұрын
Joni created all that chaos with her marriage to a man who divorced to marry her, that was the problem, and can't force jonathan and suzi to accept wrong doing.
@onthebrink3758Ай бұрын
Thank you Julie for having the courage to expose this. Prayers for Jonathan, Suzy and family
@Ang4God777Ай бұрын
So sad when people use the gospel for selfish game. I hope ministries pull out and people stop giving theier hard earned money to this so called ministry. Wake up people,Joni is a deceiver,the bible was not even brought into this and a pastor that will be non biased instead of a dictator.
@cyndijackson1009Ай бұрын
I know of a ministry that got out, she did a video and she explained n expressed why. Hope others follow suit!
@JodellNeal27 күн бұрын
When did Tony Evans take over. He seems bewitched by Joni. .
@JodellNeal27 күн бұрын
Joni is raising herself as GOD!
@JodellNeal27 күн бұрын
Why didn't Joni pray for Doug's wife Lisa?
@ChinweMadubuike23 күн бұрын
The amount of times I gasped while listening to this! 😮 My prayers are with the family and ministry but especially with Suzy and Jonathan. 🙏🏽
@mombythesea2426Ай бұрын
They keep telling Jonathan he’s insisting on his way and that’s wrong. While Joni is insisting on her way.
@LegacyPaysАй бұрын
Yes 1000%!!
@IAmHisBeloved5Ай бұрын
Exactly! Her and Jimmy Evans are trying to impose their will on Jonathan and Suzy.
@CoffeeCrazyАй бұрын
What’s interesting is that think they are right and is asking for the same type obedience as we give to God. Did not Daniel asked if they could not partake of the wine and meat. Do we not give way for weaker brethren so they will not violate their conscience. If she wanted her children to accept Doug she should have fostered that relationship before she married him.
@mombythesea2426Ай бұрын
@ That, and to think you deserve 100% obedience is insane. I want people to obey God, not me. Otherwise I’m held responsible for what they do in obedience to me if it defies God. And I don’t want that.
@trivialmatter169Ай бұрын
Joni is the boss, in any other job, u listen to the boss or goodbye
@dorraineriggins322714 күн бұрын
UNLESS Marcus signified otherwise, Jonathan should have been his dad's heir to daystar. Pastor Jimmy should stay out of it. It's none of his business.
@BB-ns7lj4 күн бұрын
Very biased, Jimmy performed the wedding
@Mary-hs3guАй бұрын
Narcissists MUST always be agreed with. Thank you, Jonathan and Suzy.
@tinac945Ай бұрын
Every person who is employed HAS TO PLEASE THEIR BOSS! Otherwise they will be OUT THE DOOR or demoted. INSUBORDINATION & DISRESPECT PLAIN & SIMPLE!
@DunasthaiАй бұрын
@@tinac945 only when the boss is a self-centered dictator. Any reputable company includes an employee handbook outlining rights to personal convictions and freedom of expression as long as no harm the bottom line ... wait. that's it isn't it.
@theresacrockett8559Ай бұрын
Yes, they have to break you and humiliate you..
@sharoncrawford7192Ай бұрын
So true.
@songofprayerАй бұрын
@@Gadol_Adonai_196 she isn’t idolizing her new husband, she became one with her husband when they married, thus when they disrespect him, it disrespects her. They became one. Joni is honoring her new husband. This is biblical.
@allthemomthings989729 күн бұрын
The saddest part is this is his MOTHER. A Mother who hid the molestation of her Grandchild and is determined to do loose her relationship with her son. It’s disgusting. This is a cult and this is bullying. Good for you Susie & Jonathan. I can’t imagine the great courage it took to stand up to the bully.
@Believe-777love29 күн бұрын
Joni definitely has developed in her “40” years of ministry a spirit of jezebel
@rnbham3928 күн бұрын
They didn't stand up....he submitted and Suzy who said she didn't have permission from God to quit at the same time she said she was there to serve God but then also said she was convicted about not reading some comment about Doug from a viewer??? Made ZERO sense. If either of them had any conviction in anything they'd have stood up and walked out and should have certainly vacated upon finding out their own daughter was sexually abused.
@jessieslay742228 күн бұрын
Is Jimmy Evans GOD... I THINK NOT !!
@vilmadavid84926 күн бұрын
She loves more her new husband than her son.
@vilmadavid84926 күн бұрын
Submit to God not to men,!!
@maggiecana6083Ай бұрын
It was never Joni's money that paid Jonathan and Suzi it was the viewers money.
@mistireynolds5873Ай бұрын
Exactly
@natyyoung7668Ай бұрын
Are you sure that’s the case?
@nicoleanne7932Ай бұрын
DayStar is in full blown idolatry and is DONE!
@melissaannboone363926 күн бұрын
It's not the viewer money. The paycheck comes from the company or LLC, whatever they go by.
@dwc025 күн бұрын
Another simpleton who thinks employer and employee relationships don't exist because it's a ministry.
@dpellpt18 күн бұрын
I have completely lost all respect for Joni Lamb and Jimmy Evans. This is not about God or the ministry that God created through the Lambs. I will never watch or listen to any of these ministers or propaganda shows again. I completely respect Jonathan and Suzy and completely know they are God fearing Christian believers. This video confirms that Daystar is not a Christian network. It is a business , no different from the money changers outside the temple where Jesus overturned their tables for heresy.
@martinedmunds1888Ай бұрын
For Jim Evans to tell them that Joni is the 'voice of God' is absolutely ridiculous and on the edge of blasphemy. Joni is the mother and boss - and that's it. This really exposes not only Joni, who doesnt even seem to care about her grand daughter, but it also exposes Jimmy for saying such garbage. His ministry has now been exposed. What a disgrace. For those who basically imply that Joni is God which means the boss - you are WRONG. Joni is the boss who is supposed to be accountable to the controlling board. If she was God of DAYSTAR she would have NO accountability period. However, her son made mention that he is on the board and Jimmy just blew him off.
@bloubrown802Ай бұрын
His ministry was exposed a long time ago.
@ktread8487Ай бұрын
She said the voice of God FOR DAYSTAR! She is the boss. Like it or not.
@lindayhukutwana3861Ай бұрын
@ktread8487 you can't be the only one God talks too just because you're the mother n boss. Unless this is not about God leading the ministry. You are wrong if u think like that. That's why we have so many lost souls that are following blindly people n not God.
@chrisitnajones5527Ай бұрын
My Lord???
@chrisitnajones5527Ай бұрын
She curses with no compunction???
@lynnm.201929 күн бұрын
Telling these young people that they will have a curse on them and their children. This is horrific, please pray for this young couple.
@blissletson901728 күн бұрын
That's using witchcraft!
@virginiarich751728 күн бұрын
Johnathon and his wife continued to work at Daystar with the person who molested their little daughter. I don’t understand that
@virginiarich751728 күн бұрын
Flat Evil! No wonder Jonathon has trouble doing the right thing. Living under the Jezebel spirit of his mother. Jonathan and his wife have continued to work at Daystar after their five year old daughter was molested. They are finally getting the Police involved. Joni believed the child molester and refused to protect her granddaughter. I have zero respect for this woman
@dominicebere941428 күн бұрын
Your folks writing junks don’t understand spiritual things. The wisdom of Jimmy Evans is commendable.
@sharrebenezer28 күн бұрын
@@dominicebere9414bwahahahaaa
@reginasanchez9432Ай бұрын
Marcus told her to not let the kids get away with disrespect yet he disrespected his family for 7 years with an affair.
@GFB29Ай бұрын
Marcus was not Christlike. He was all about himself and the money.
@GavinsMarineMomАй бұрын
Exactly! It wasn't just the affair. There were other women who brought civil suits against Marcus, as well, for se-xual misconduct.
@IAmHisBeloved5Ай бұрын
Exactly! The irony!
@LindaWeeseАй бұрын
Yes. 7 years!!!!!
@sharoncrawford7192Ай бұрын
Yep. It's do as we say, not as we do!
@janiesales191820 күн бұрын
Johnathan and Suzie protect your precious little girl
@digitalwasabi2Ай бұрын
Why was Joni so hell-bent on having that letter read by Jonathan and Suzy? It was force. It was ego. Why didn’t she just read it on her Table Talk show and be done with it? This woman is prideful and mean.
@GFB29Ай бұрын
It’s all about Joni. And when Marcus was alive, it was all about them. They never listen to who is being abused. I saw that in person.
@oliverkent8429Ай бұрын
Because she wants the marriage validated
@eunicemirembe1593Ай бұрын
She could even have asked some other child of hers to read it.
@JLeeladeeАй бұрын
Joni was trying to force them by manipulation, intimidation, and domination to read the viewer’s comment of Doug for validation from them… even if it wouldn’t be from their heart. Joni knew how they felt about Doug and still forcing them… M.I.D. Are characteristics of a JEZEBEL using witchcraft.😢
@Romans109Psalm91Ай бұрын
@@oliverkent8429 yes, validated by a fan who wrote the letter. It had to awfully important to have that particular letter read on air around the world. She needed it to be read obviously. Wow!!
@misamores10566Ай бұрын
She’s accusing Susie of being prideful…no self awareness! And she pronounces a curse on them…wow!
@cholabulaya272329 күн бұрын
Jezebel spirit.
@bramcancan848829 күн бұрын
No joke, all she's doing is projecting all of her own evil ways. Like a bonafide witch. Speaking vulgarity to both her son and daughter in law. Being set free from that diabolical place and people is the best thing that happened to that young couple. That old man probably knows all the dirt and gets paid to keep all the secrets of sin and wrong doings against others
@Zooballoo1427 күн бұрын
@@misamores10566 It would appear Joni is quite prideful.
@tracyvalentine772823 күн бұрын
The curse will not stick
@GFB29Ай бұрын
Joni is so hostile and dismissive. Poor Jonathan! He and his family has taken a big step. May God protect them.
@BevOlsenАй бұрын
I agree….hes prob dealing with death of his father and his mother now has lost his mother
@lynnstewart-dr4xmАй бұрын
The passed deceased president carried himself as a little mild and a tad bit sweet to me which is why Joni maybe was able to stay in the game. It’s under new management now and envy has a place at the table. If a woman has no place of authority in America then the question being asked is…Joni, what you doin here???Her husband gave her the spot is the answer!!
@kelliem1562Ай бұрын
He is having to deprogrammed himself from the fact it’s his Mother too . Proud of him for being a Man protecting his family. The nerve of Evan’s telling him to submit to her as if god. Bible says he’s is a man who submits only to God now that he has a wife.
@lizh7845Ай бұрын
What about the boundary that Jimmy took when he announced Doug to the whole world that Doug’s ex was abusing him…I have No respect for Jimmy Evans… Praying that Suzy and Jonathan will be fruitful in another ministry…
@tah2606Ай бұрын
@@lizh7845I knew it wasn’t true when he said it. There is something very off about him. Opportunist.
@suzettedavis810319 күн бұрын
So glad you stood your ground under God's word!
@daisyoliverasАй бұрын
Wow… wow… wow… speechless!! This speaks volumes!! The ABUSE in this meeting is ASTOUNDING!!
@daisies4444Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree the abuse is unbelievable! The swearing of Joni shows who she is and what she is like behind the scenes!
@boxesbinslidsllcАй бұрын
If you know "employment laws" they are in insubordination because as "employees" of Daystar they are refusing to do what their manager is asking based on their personal feelings. If they were at Fox and refused to read or do with the station manager asked, they would not be around. Suzy is running that marriage. I pray they do get justice for their daughter if the allegations are true.
@joycethomas3549Ай бұрын
@@boxesbinslidsllcI don’t agree they are in insubordination. You can still keep your convictions no matter where you work. Same as what is happening now as freedom of speech. Just like saying the bible is a ‘hate speech’ and if you are in the secular world. That doesn’t mean you throw that out, as a Christian and mind you.you are still within the conviction and constitution. That aside this is a so called church or a so called Christian TV and her family -her son!definitely abuse . Sin is sin! Joni is an adulterous relationship with Doug-Period! You can’t force them! Joni should be repentant Will be praying for them all especially Jonathan and Suzy
@barstowe55Ай бұрын
@@daisies4444 Hypocrites like you are rumor mongers.
@LyndaPeck-b7lАй бұрын
I don't see any abuse. Both sides are being manipulated by satan. I don't think Joni is acting like a christian but I think Susie and Johnathan can't disregard Doug as being her husband and being respectful. No Mr. Evan's Joni is not God to anybody even on her show. Susie I love you and Johnathan but you need to leave the show quietly and give all of this over to God to deal with your mom and pray for her eyes to be opened. Mr. Evans is not a counsellor he came in as Joni's little puppet.
@donnableen1502Ай бұрын
WOW! I USED TO LOVE WATCHING JONI/ DAYSTAR, BUT JONI THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE....YOUR SON HAS EVERY RIGHT TO WANT TO PRAY... THEIR IS ONE GOD, GOD IS ABOVE ALL 🙏🏽
@faithworks217Ай бұрын
Yes, the pressure for an instant answer reminds me of when my husband and I were pressured to buy $800.00 worth of cleaning supplies, so that we could get large discounts on appliances. We were young and inexperienced. The offer was on the table for only 24 hours, then it would be withdrawn. That salesman was a shark, but even he was willing to give us 24 hours to think about it. We bought the soap, then had second thoughts, and returned it the day after it was delivered. Legally, we had three days to get out of the contract. There would have been no way out of what Joni wanted Jonathan to do.
@Elizabeth77536Ай бұрын
@@faithworks217love how you compared you buying APPLIANCES to him not being allowed to pray to GOD about submitting to his mothers corrupt behavior 😂😂😂
@karenrenteria8491Ай бұрын
@@donnableen1502 God is above all at Daystar too even above Joni
@faithworks217Ай бұрын
@@Elizabeth77536 You're right. Buying appliances is trivial in comparison. Jonathan should have been given at least a week to pray before he responded to his mother's demand that he sign an NDA.
@dianneporter967229 күн бұрын
No in between? No discussion? Where's a contrite heart? No one can compete with "God." This is spiritual abuse for the kids. Just wow. Nothing they can do would satisfy Joni. This makes me sad. Praying. This is manipulation.
@digitalwasabi2Ай бұрын
Joni is demanding she be praised on network TV. The Bible says it is not honorable to seek your own honor. Such pride.
@Steve-mj5bgАй бұрын
''God is no respecter of persons" Acts 10:34 Someone read this to Joni.
@HeartAliveTodayАй бұрын
Exactly what I was hearing and thinking. This should be a NON issue for Joni. NOTHING Godly about her attitude/ beliefs.
@melodyjohnson911928 күн бұрын
@@digitalwasabi2 What's the big deal about reading a comment?
@apelilab543914 күн бұрын
Joni Lamb and her side kick are on a power trip, using the term submit repeatedly is absolutely demeaning. Wolf in sheep's clothing, no respect for the employee, son that list his father and rightfully has the right hold to his mother accountable for her choices. Everything will come to light. She's the one on a power trip. I suspect she threatened her grandchild. EVERYTHING WILL COME TO LIGHT.
@EM-vb8gxАй бұрын
Submission means accepting her new husband? How manipulative!!! Give them time!!! Stop forcing them into accepting an adulterous relationship. Manipulating the word of God. So glad Suzie is standing on her convictions
@shannontederoff3026Ай бұрын
How is it adulterous? Isn't her husband dead?
@daughterofthemosthigh3366Ай бұрын
@@shannontederoff3026 Joni is free to marry but not someone with a covenant spouse. Doug high-tailed it to the divorce court once Marcus died. He dumped his wife to marry Joni. This makes their union adulterous.
@onceuponatimeinvtАй бұрын
It this meeting they had been married just 1 month. Not time enough to get to know doug
@wwtjoygbths3993Ай бұрын
Suzy can and should go work some place else. This is Joni's business corporation.
@roslyndunsmore2573Ай бұрын
@shannontederoff3026 Doug Wiess abruptly divorced his wife of 30 years to run after Joni....it's Doug Wiess who has caused the adulterous marriage
@karie431Ай бұрын
The way Doug divorced his wife and married Joni was suspect. They dont have to read a statement that they dont agree with...period.
@kurtnlisalewisАй бұрын
@@karie431 very sus, like perhaps they had a relationship already developed
@DeepCaseExorcismsАй бұрын
I'm beginning to suspect how Marcus died.
@viviolmedaАй бұрын
@@karie431 of course. He divorced his wife two months after mark died. That’s suspicious. In January of 2022 he started his divorce and in March of 2022 Joni was building. $4 million dollar home. How fast was that? And they want Jonathan and Suzy to forcefully summit to this man. That’s spiritual bullying. But they’re not talking about the SA that Was done to the grandchild. . Praying 🙏 for Jonathon and Suzy.
@kurtnlisalewisАй бұрын
@ no that’s a stretch
@GwenljАй бұрын
Yep me too so much for mourning your husband. He moved in on the scene quickly. Divorced his wife . Billed daystar for lavish trips and the wedding now a new home .
@kimseals345828 күн бұрын
And he doesn’t want to lose his mom or his wife. He is in a very difficult situation. My heart goes out to him! And he’s lost his dad.
@cameliagentry330718 күн бұрын
Joni is the voice of God? Then Joni cursed at her son? then she said, " Marcus would kick Jonathan butt". Joni said to Susy, "Nobody would know who you are without Daystar. Joni said to Jonathan "you will bring a curse on your kids and she said you are not here for God.
@clydewatkins7712Ай бұрын
These people are out of their mind, I agree with johnathon and Susie standing their ground and their principles
@karenmartin4221Ай бұрын
Horrible people! Joni and Jimmy are scary!!!
@JewelSharonАй бұрын
😲 My jaw is on floor listening to this. ON THE FLOOR!!
@HeavenBound16Ай бұрын
Amen, Jewel. Mine as well!
@mariaclarke5279Ай бұрын
Me too !!😮
@adrianaanderson6483Ай бұрын
Totally Unbelievable!!!! She marries a sex therapist that left his wife of 30yrs to run after Joni and they are supposed to be overjoyed ??? This is absolutely insane, and Joni cussing like this is absolutely appalling!!! What a hypocrite!!! True colors shown here. She needs to step down. And......the sexual assault on their child is an ENTIRELY separate horrific issue. Joni takes no responsibility. Doing nothing about the son in law !!! Letting him walk off scott free after this poor child's life is marred.
@merlekallis2618Ай бұрын
Shocking but not surprising!Joni, her husband and Evans are cruel!
@Helga-g8rАй бұрын
I just can't believe that Joni and the pastor act like a villain with a whole people their son and daughter-in-law I just can't believe it I think I'm hearing wrong@@adrianaanderson6483
@glynncarbonaro2799Ай бұрын
I’m glad they recorded this. God, be with Jonathan and Suzy. Let the truth come out.
@gabrieladita551229 күн бұрын
Who recorded this ?
@glynncarbonaro279929 күн бұрын
@ To the best of my knowledge. Jonathan did.
@Jamie-q8q29 күн бұрын
Well then since you like the idea so much, someday someone will secretly record you and broadcast it to the world.
@NehemieDelacruz28 күн бұрын
This is my very first comment ever on KZbin and social media. I never do this but I want to shed light. Yes abuse of any kind is wrong. But, let us recognize Johnathan and Suzy are not acting in the right spirit. The Bible tells us to seek peace. We are suppose live at peace with mankind as much as it is possible. Recording this private conversation and sharing it online is not peaceful. I wish them healing and peace. May the Lord keep them and bless them with wisdom to do His will!
@CoyRitaTolonen-d7d28 күн бұрын
The Bible says for us to follow God's word, and she is bullying and manipulating him. Joni should have investigated the SA accusation. It is all about image and image is money.
@pastorkennethmorgan506410 сағат бұрын
Jimmy Evans should have not been the one counseling them, because he was in agreement with it from the beginning.
@ednamacquela7982Ай бұрын
I am not even halfway through this recording and I am totally dumbstruck, speechless! My Jesus!!! Lord have mercy!!!
@eloina6728Ай бұрын
Do not know why Jonathan and Susie bother to talk to joni and Evans!
@candygarrett775028 күн бұрын
@ednamacquela7982 i could only watch til like 26:35 cause at the 26 minute mark tonight called Jimmy babe when he was arguing with johnathan
@andredutoit1131Ай бұрын
THANK YOU for sharing the FULL audio of the Daystar meeting. Hearing the entire recording makes all the difference. This is a classical example of spiritual abuse. I not only stand with Jonathan & Suzy, but I am pleased that the light of the Gospel is exposing the evil of spiritual abuse by people in spiritual authority. Thank you Jonathan and Suzy for defending a BIBLICAL (and not a carnal and self serving) view of marriage and spiritual authority. Much love from South Africa xxx
@debbygordon5123Ай бұрын
Greetings from South Africa too.
@estherreyna9807Ай бұрын
I can see both sides but I don't like how jimmy evans talks an I have listened to him in the past
@estherreyna9807Ай бұрын
and I have been told I would have a curse because u can't say anything about the Lord's anointed😮
@pinkparasollise9646Ай бұрын
@@estherreyna9807 "Touch Not the Lord's Anointed." The 'anointed' is the sheep, not the pastor/leaders. Folk misread this particular scripture.
@debravan-aalst4723Ай бұрын
@@pinkparasollise9646i
@heartlightsАй бұрын
Every time they say "submit" remember that, very early in the conversation, it was established that "submission" in this context refers to submitting to the will of Joni Lamb OVER the will of God. So every time it sounds like Jimmy and Joni are kinda making a point with the "you won't submit" thing, just remember they aren't talking about submitting to God; they're talking about submitting to the god of Daystar BEFORE God.
@kukudee9686Ай бұрын
And that's mind-boggling!
@sheilacuevas2485Ай бұрын
@heartlights ....I agree with you. Clearly, Joni doesn't respect Suzy. I stopped watching Daystar and TBN earlier this year. When I did watch it. I could see the uneasiness on the show.
@1BeautifulLilLady29 күн бұрын
Listen when Jimmy said you don’t do what God says but you do what Joni says blew my mind!
@burch1970529 күн бұрын
@@heartlights Absolutely! You put it right into perspective.
@angelc699529 күн бұрын
Yezzz! DEMONIC👀
@jeniceknight276014 күн бұрын
Spiritual abuse!! How heartbreaking Joni's pride and insecurity is more important than her relationship with her son. And Jimmy Evans? He is unbelievable! Both are bullies! My heart goes out to Jonathan and Suzi.
@kingsman847514 күн бұрын
The word spiritual should not be used in Christianity. This is not Kabala mysticism.
@npbjw3112Ай бұрын
I listened to this and then I looked up Instagram. Did you see what Joni Lamb posted two days ago? She said it had to do with Jonathan not being voted as president. Now I definitely see why this was released. Thank you, Roys Report.
@voiceofintercessioncreatin2151Ай бұрын
Saul was directly disobedient to God not man. Stop taking scripture out of context. I. So disappointed with Jimmy Evans. What you and Joni are doing is witchcraft. Forcing g them to do things against their own Conscience. This is so so sad
@Fruitful888Ай бұрын
Yes... Contradiction!!
@airplane800Ай бұрын
Jonathan is a spoiled boy that is sure that one day he will control the empire called Daystar. He goes to college and meet a gold digger called Suzy. Jonathan is ugly, boring and unattractive what confirms the gold digger hypothesis. Jonathan lures Suzy with promises of success and fame. Everything is going fine until his sisters start participating in the company and married talented, handsome and adorable husbands. Even the parents like them. Suddenly Jonathan and Suzy start feeling threatened and feeling jealous. His show with Suzy has very low rates what increases the jealousy. One day during a family vacation an ordinary incident may have happened, and Jonathan and Suzy saw an opportunity to blackmail the family and try to regain relevance. The black mail backfires and then after a while they realized that the only way to regain power was to construct a story, inflating an incident, to try to move the competition out of the way. That is where we are now. Gold digger Suzy and non-talent Jonathan decided to play dirty and try a " I don't get it; they don't get it " game. Remember that "who is hurting wants to hurt". This is a typical case of jealousy and fight for power. Shakespeare teaches all the ingredients in this story.
@jnc1028Ай бұрын
@@npbjw3112 she's a liar.
@myramiller4365Ай бұрын
There is a whole lot More to all of this.
@virginiasanchez4797Ай бұрын
Wow.. she has a strong spirit of manipulation. She spokes curses over them by speaking that they are going to catch hell. If her husband was a good man she would not have to use manipulation or fear tactics to defend her marriage. He was such a good son and showed her respect and honor despite her actions. God bless you Johnathan
@thoradollenberg7584Ай бұрын
We break those curses in Jesus name.
@NeemahKing-pm1gqАй бұрын
Exactly! She is highly ocultic and a soceress, she kept on cursing them & their children & bloodline. As Jimmy was in agreement, they were ritually binding them. Can you imagine the spell she directly pit on her granddaughter, when she demanded that only HER, Joni, privately, meet with her? Since then, the girl, completely became shut in, reclusive, stopped playing, never said anymore to her parents and became terrified of any man, including her dad, touching or hugging her. Joni is EVIL. This is high level satanism. Remember, both her own father & husband were serial adulterers and fornicators according to publicly recent court filings that have now been reposted that Daystar had cleared up from the internet. The cases were against SA by Daystar young employees, against Daystars own Marcus lamb, 7 years adultery & Joni's father SA against a young female staffer. Rachel, their daughter too was SA. This family is clearly Luciferian to extent that they all lock horns to cover up for Rachel's husband alledged SA to Jonathan & Suzys daughter? Social services should also check the alledged brother in laws 2 children, thst is Rachels children. Suzy was SA by Daystar chiropracter & Joni & Marcus, covered up. ALL this high level of SA, in just 1 family! Then enters into the family, a recovering sex addict aka Doug Weiss, new husband to Joni! This is a horror family!
@kathyriggs9227Ай бұрын
HE was taping it!!! Do you think he would cop an attitude on tape!!!?? HE KNEW what he was saying was being recorded!
@gldnsunrising776129 күн бұрын
Oh wow, I literally just made this exact comment! About the girl being summoned to talk to her alone, and then how she came out afterwards completely different, shutdown, and, suddenly does'nt even remember the things that were done to her, I said THAT IS STRAIGHT WCRAFT. PERIOD. As soon as I heard that part on another podcast last week I said hold up!- Did I just hear that correctly?? I rewound and listened to it again and I IMMEDIATELY said THAT GIRL HAD WCRAFT PUT ONTO HER! Also, I just now thought of something.. the name of the company, daystar.. wonder if it really means the morning star... @@NeemahKing-pm1gq
@holteqn29 күн бұрын
@@NeemahKing-pm1gq Omgoodness! While reading your post, I could hardly keep up with all of SA incidents! This is despicable! Especially for the poor child! When did anybody in the camp have time for God's work?!
@smokeycat007Ай бұрын
When Joni says to Suzy “Without Daystar, nobody would know who you are…” that’s so telling. The ministry is not supposed to be about fame. What an interesting choice of words and a reflection of Joni’s heart imo. I suppose she loves her son - she is his mother. But this situation is evident that he isn’t as important to her as her pride, fame, and riches that’s she’s gained from Daystar.
@IAmHisBeloved5Ай бұрын
Her and Jimmy said so many unbiblical disgusting things.
@Maryane57Ай бұрын
Joni is horrible...I can't stand Jimmy...he's so arrogant and prideful...I'm sorry but I do want to see him fall...he needs to be humbled...what a horrible man.
@Pathway-xh2qxАй бұрын
That's what entered my thought process,trying to pressure, showing hardness of heart :-((
@ruthschuring6634Ай бұрын
Awful.
@windex77Ай бұрын
We are not here to be known, we are here to glorify Jesus and God and Holy Spirit!!
@marysedillo809319 күн бұрын
Daystar belongs to God and not Joni Lamb. God will judge and clean Daystar appropriately. God is in charge.
@LaMaisonDeMadАй бұрын
Lol Joni is so insecure about them not reading a stupid note about her new marriage that she recruits Jimmy to basically bully them in this meeting. Pathetic.
@danielbrian3115Ай бұрын
1:34:30 there is no new testsment justification for a Christian to file for divorce for abandonment. 1 Corinthians 7:15 says if an unbeliever departs, let them
@BurbankellyАй бұрын
It’s absolutely wild this letter reading ON AIR is so important they will rip their family apart over it! They are coercing Suzie and Jonathan, and that is witchcraft!
@Meggiebeth19Ай бұрын
Where there is no conviction of sin there is no repentance. A true believer would not speak or behave as Joni Lamb & Jimmy Evans did in this audio. It comes down to sin & no repentance it opens the door to evil.
@jamesbusch282Ай бұрын
Submission is to God, NOT TO DAYSTAR!
@jamesbusch282Ай бұрын
Daystar and Jimmy Evans are so Done! Shut it down!!! NOW!!!
@rhondafouch4676Ай бұрын
Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson posted on her KZbin a wonderful explanation of why she is no longer going to be on the Daystar network in Canada,great job Julie praying for you!!
@elizabethlacky6068Ай бұрын
Very articulate and thoughtful provoking ..Laura is a beautiful spirit.
@Bellajane127Ай бұрын
Just donated to her to say thanks for standing up for Suzy's little girl's CSA.
@sabine3769Ай бұрын
I let her know how much respect I have for Laura. She handled it perfectly.
@janehardinАй бұрын
@@sabine3769I pray God opens a door for Jonathan and Suzy to start their own Christian channel. The best thing for this couple is to walk away as hard as that might be, but God will supply every need. Just maybe, He has better things in store......
@cyndijackson1009Ай бұрын
@@janehardinGod always has better things in store!!!
@digitalwasabi2Ай бұрын
Let’s see Joni’s lawyers try to take THIS video down!!! MAKE THIS GO VIRAL.
@Abbasgirl312Ай бұрын
Agree!!!!
@momoshark2257Ай бұрын
I saw a KZbinr say he got a cease & desist order
@sabine3769Ай бұрын
Safe the video and share
@BB-ns7lj4 күн бұрын
Seriously Jimmy??? "FEEDING EACHOTHER" You and Joni are. FEEDING eachother. Jonathan AND Suzy are MARRIED...they have EVERRY right too feed off EACHOTHER!!!😮
@syphwarriorАй бұрын
Jonathan was not arguing. He was asking valid questions.
@patriciae8917Ай бұрын
He was constantly interrupted.
@CherylTruebloodPhotographyАй бұрын
They wouldnt let him speak. He has all the signs of an Adult child whose mothers still uses her position to abuse him in submission. Hes afraid of her. I have 3 grown sons and once they reached adulthood I no longer spoke to them from the position of Im ovet you. They are equals in my eyes and I respect their voices that I raised them to have.
@patriciahairston5382Ай бұрын
Why won’t they let them talk This was all one sided
@renerickman2208Ай бұрын
They wouldn't even let him speak
@winniestearns2091Ай бұрын
@@syphwarrior He is an employee. He should comply. If he can't, then he needs to leave. His wife can do as she please, but not at expense of daystar...
@doghambone1716Ай бұрын
Thanks for getting the story out
@CarmenSmithStuderАй бұрын
Cussing and comparing her son to her new husbands children??? Brutal.
@lisaphillips7038Ай бұрын
My jaw dropped when I heard that
@sarahkirbach5040Ай бұрын
Yeeeeaaaah
@Kingdomadvancers7Ай бұрын
Joni when you chose to not protect your granddaughter..you rebelled and gave them no choice but to go public
@joycethomas3549Ай бұрын
@@Kingdomadvancers7So right! And Jimmy ?Is he also on the payroll?Please let me know!it’s an honest question
@MandyJones-fy3nqАй бұрын
I agree Horrible
@gwenbundage982120 күн бұрын
True believers stop watching DAYSTAR years ago when you took Jesus Christ out of the ministry and became carnal. This is why you have confusion at your door. Now its about you and not about heavenly business. She dont need to discuss your marriage. This is about Power!! Let it go.
@Eternal_Hope_Q12 күн бұрын
Thats exactly what i was thinking. When Suzie said she didn't read it because she didn't see it was relevant to the promotion of the Lord (paraphrasing) AND they don't have a relationship with her husband so she can't comment on their marriage. Makes total sense that they stand on their principles on this! Not to mention the molestation of Suzies daughter that Joni sided with the the perp? Weeeird!
@Hepzibah504Ай бұрын
Wow…Joni told her son, “May God judge between him and her.” From her own lips. What a scary statement to make if you’re in the wrong.
@andylang2584Ай бұрын
Let's wait and see who will receive the curse.
@prayerpower1585Ай бұрын
@@andylang2584May they all receive healing
@adoptada1219 күн бұрын
Amen. Im waiting around to see healing. Not anything else. Why would we as children of light be rooting for anything other than for this family to be restored, and blessed?.....?.....?
@nancyr516116 күн бұрын
They are both committing adultery
@hanakoАй бұрын
She’s mad because Suzy didn’t come to Joni’s LINGERIE SHOWER??? How disgusting to even think about participating in something like that with your mother in law???
@annmcevoy9299Ай бұрын
Eww, just eww.
@jackieyochim2860Ай бұрын
A Christian lingerie shower ? Was there pole dancing and Beyoncé music also ?
@MelodiStiefelАй бұрын
Right!!!!!! So inappropriate!!!
@mr.darling9380Ай бұрын
Joni is 60 years plus. I don't even want to imagine her in lingerie.
@tamimoncrief2264Ай бұрын
Joni is totally operating as Jezebel Trying to force her creepy husband on everyone.
@debrac3697Ай бұрын
Stand firm jonathan... God's truth will prevail... Fight for justice for your 5 yr old SA'd daughter... Never give up!❤
@DarleneHernandez-p2dАй бұрын
This is the true evil in all of this. They need to pursue and bring justice for this child in a court of law!
@elisabethlourens662625 күн бұрын
Really!??? Get some discernment.
@delenavanover-ol9vn2 күн бұрын
Why would Joni insist on Jonathan and Suzy give praise for her new marriage to her new husband. I realize it was a viewer who said it but if she wanted the praise of Doug read she should have done it herself and not expected her son to do it for her. Doug is not his father and jonathan therefore is loyal to his biological father.
@karencooper177228 күн бұрын
Jonathan is nothing but a gentleman. God bless his heart and may continue to show him the way to lead his family.
@carolwalker402627 күн бұрын
No Johnathan Is Nothing but a whimp! A (Ahab Spirit) That Suzy is the Boss a (Jezebel Spirit.) Daystar is nothing but her little job. Truth be told she (Suzy) would love her n Johnathan to take over Dayst☆r. The only HUGUE PROBLEM IS THEY CAN'T CONTROL JONI WITH THAT JEZEBEL SPIRIT.
@karencooper177226 күн бұрын
@ hahaha now say it without crying 😂
@junegant456326 күн бұрын
Jonthan is not a gentleman, he is a wimp and spoiled to boot. He will never stand up to Susy. I was so proud of Joni and Jimmy
@Jezuslvr26 күн бұрын
A gentleman wouldn't record his mom secretly and act like a saint! Then hand the tape over to a reporter. Jonathan is sowing discord among the brethren 😢
@ArtinLevos23 күн бұрын
It’s a good thing he recorded this because the truth would have never come out. As well as the fact she tried to bury under the rug of what happened to her granddaughter speaks so much about her character.
@communingwithGod24 күн бұрын
I think its absolutely rude to keep cutting Jonathan off as grown man trying to speak his truth, this really makes me upset.
@DMWashington-q3p23 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@ShoutItFromTheHousetops23 күн бұрын
What she said to Jonathon about being happy to have Doug in the family because “I want my grandchildren to have a man in their lives.”
@SetAblazeMinistries202421 күн бұрын
It's like Jonathan is seen as a child...even reading that scripture about "a child", when he's a grown, married man.
@judytoft42921 күн бұрын
They were completely fair with Jonathan and Suzy!
@beryllofland87220 күн бұрын
Jonathan is not a child.
@jordanpoole7239Ай бұрын
Jimmy Evans saying ‘I know abuse when I see it’, then continuing to bully these two young people,,,,,just wow
@gandalf0987Ай бұрын
The man is confused
@JohnLucas1981Ай бұрын
@@jordanpoole7239 how hypocritical and ignorant he is. He is also arrogant and prideful without thinking he has all the answers. He is like a little lapdog to Joni and does everything she says because of the fact the has gets “AIR TIME” on Daystar It’s all so ridiculous!!
@rachelmandoka7423Ай бұрын
Mr . Evans, stop the bullying of these two people You are wrong to try and force this couple to interact with joni new husband
@ellehfr4806Ай бұрын
There's always tension when you combine 2 families.
@MrArtist1971Ай бұрын
This guy is twisting the conversation.
@rhondahill10694 күн бұрын
It's amazing that Jimmy Evans, keep saying he has 41 years experience in the ministry. However, he lack discernment about Doug. All the information which is coming out about him now. I would never listen to any advise from Jimmy Evans.
@littledubfarm1107Ай бұрын
The way these “ministries” get shut down is for people to STOP GIVING THEM MONEY
@sharonharris4888Ай бұрын
Some are blinded and will continue to give.
@rhondafouch4676Ай бұрын
Lord Jesus, please take the blinders off of true believers eyes help them to see that this is not a ministry to support please cause Joni to repent, and be restored in Jesus name
@nicolebenson4517Ай бұрын
It’s the only way.
@reneemaddox2061Ай бұрын
@@littledubfarm1107 Yes, and it's just that simple ...
@lulu-qw8xyАй бұрын
One way
@patwindsor2908Ай бұрын
Notice how both of them, Joni & Jimmy did not let either one of them talk...they did all the talking!!
@GoldencitygirlАй бұрын
They had already made up their minds…
@Ena-yt8yeАй бұрын
Especially that man Jimmy! He doesn't even let Joni speak freely. I believe Johnathan is so humble. How does he sit there and listen to Jimmy Evans talk to him like that without getting upset?
@donnagray1989Ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY. THEY DEMANDED ( AND TOOK) COMPLETE CONTROL OF THE CONVERSATION. This PROVES their having COMPLETE CONTROL of the situation. NO HOLDS BARRED.TOTAL DOMINATION .
@lholden45Ай бұрын
That was so telling of the domination!
@kimbrown4772Ай бұрын
Yep!
@StevenKozarMessedUpChurchАй бұрын
Joni and Jimmy display all of the characteristics of cult leaders. “Disobeying Daystar = Witchcraft.”
@kevinevans8892Ай бұрын
Thank you for your video last night about Joni's adulterous union with that huckster. Enjoyed it. Too many unbiblical divorces and remarriages in the church
@TaflynMassarАй бұрын
They are both disgusting
@reneemaddox2061Ай бұрын
@@StevenKozarMessedUpChurch wow...and she did say that.
@michaelaallen1091Ай бұрын
Johnathan and Suzy just leave because Daystar gonna eventually be destroyed joni not God hello cult lol
@michaelaallen1091Ай бұрын
Don't submit Jonathan and Suzy joni didn't to you when your molested and she tried covering up the molestation
@rubeereitzel61818 күн бұрын
A GOOD AND GODLY MOTHER. WILL NEVER DO THINGS LIKE THIS TO THEIR SON
@alyciette22Ай бұрын
But why is it so important for Joni to have a viewer's comment validating her marriage, read on TV? It has nothing to do with the show or what God is doing through the show! The fact that this has become such a big issue for Joni to call this meeting is dramatic and unnecessary, just because she wants her marriage validated on TV, to drown out all the negative comments who disapprove of her marriage!
@AJ-vf2vfАй бұрын
Because she's a narcissist
@janicem3651Ай бұрын
What about the rape of Suzy & their daughter?
@alyciette22Ай бұрын
@AJ-vf2vf exactly. It's so stupid to create such a big issue (on her part) out of this. It sounds like the whole issue for her is that they won't agree with her marriage to Doug, and you would think, being within her inner circle, they'd know more than we do, and not even they agree with it. Says something. She's trying to use her kids and friends to promote and support her marriage.
@snsn7251Ай бұрын
Exactly
@reginasanchez9432Ай бұрын
Because Joni needs Jonathan and Susie to come along side the marriage because I believe deep in her heart, Joni knows it's wrong.
@rosemarypeto2316Ай бұрын
Doug is not a godly man I see him as a big fake. God does see!! And Jimmy Evans agreeing with this marriage , is appalling!!
@pamelamubutaАй бұрын
True! We cannot all be wrong!
@rhondafouch4676Ай бұрын
I pray, in Jesus name that Jimmy Evans will fall from his position and leading anybody in the body of Christ may all be revealed in Jesus name
@normagordon1375Ай бұрын
Everybody but Joni and Jimmy See's him as a fake, extremely dishonest and repulsive at best! Sounds like they're the ones being led of the devil and their fleshly selfish desires!
@glorialovesChristАй бұрын
Joni is Jimmy's boss . He wants Daystar platform.
@tizb5178Ай бұрын
Opportunist, wanting a platform at her expense! Where is her discernment as a "minister"??
@LuannHurstАй бұрын
Johnathon stay strong , The born again believers are standing with you and Suzy
@junegant456326 күн бұрын
No we are not. I am a born again believer and Jimmy and Joni are totally in the right. Jonathan is wrong. A total wimp in this situation. There is no way he is going to stand up against his wife. So sad.
@dwc025 күн бұрын
Nope, only those given to the spirit of confusion are standing with J&S. Satan was in everything they said.
@ech4ever10324 күн бұрын
Joni is right - and she was long-suffering with those two!
@seibelscott685016 күн бұрын
She is the head of that family because he let her do all the talking
@LuannHurst16 күн бұрын
@@seibelscott6850 you better step off , if you have never experienced spiritual abuse you wouldn’t understand, listen to the way they gang up on Johnathon,,, please!
@cherylregier163623 сағат бұрын
Joni Lamb is SO wrong! Jonathan and Suzy, RUN as far away from her as possible! Yes, she’s your mom, but that doesn’t mean she’s not wrong. Who does she worship, not the Lord I know! Joni is NOT the voice of God to anyone! So unbelievably wrong!