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Chad Knaus eluded to an apparent quality issue with parts coming from the single-source provider for NASCAR Cup Series cars. Does his argument hold water?
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[@ScottXC91]

Kevin Harvick: these are some crappy ass parts. Brett: BRILLIANT! Chad Knaus: these are some crappy ass parts. Brett: CHAD HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND!

[@jasonburns9320]

Both things could be true. The third party provider could be giving crap parts and the teams could be using that as an excuse to manipulate them a little. I am not sure why you are saying there is nothing you can do about getting inconsistent parts. You can do something about it. You do what Chad is saying. NASCAR and the teams need to hold the parts provider accountable.

[@erikscherer22]

Honestly if it was a 3rd party issue all the Chevrolet cars would have the issue, or if was just 1 bad batch then only one of the Hendrick cars would have failed. The fact that all 4 cars failed (and both louvers on each car were illegal) tells me Hendrick is messing with the air dam that the louvers attach to and in order to make them fit they had to mess with them.

[@darthhull85]

@@erikscherer22 I doubt that HMS would cheat with the same thing on all 4 cars on the same weekend. Bullshit. If you know anything about Chad, that’s not his style.

[@codypk5111]

I think Chad is milking it; but also because it’s Chad. Kaulig only having one taken is super weird though

[@donniehelmly4920]

Chad should do everything he can. To protect his teams.

[@drb4134]

@@darthhull85 Chad's style is to give up the louvers as sacrificial lambs to hide what they're really doing.

[@jbonn5365]

So... If Chad has completely lost his mind... I assume Harvick did last year, too? I don't remember the same comment being made about Harvick... Pretty sure he said "crappy parts" at first... then doubled down and said "crappy-ass parts". The parts being shitty has been on going since this cars first race.

[@kingofrunescapepking]

Brett Griffin accusing anyone of having lost their mind is hilariously ironic

[@korbinsworld24]

Brett is the Skip Bayless of Nascar.

[@mattdyer489]

It isn't a secret that the teams are getting junk parts. They have been bitching about it since the beginning of last year. But no one has had big enough balls to straight up call them out on it like Chad just done. Nascar has been on some serious bullshit lately, and it's about time people started checking their ass. Nascar needs to start being held accountable for their stupidity.

[@section8usmc53]

Chad should have driven his happy ass down to Nascar, grabbed an official, and told him to bring a camera with him, showed the official the problem, had him take pictures, and bring the non fitting part back to headquarters and figure it out, then wait for them to get back to you. Anything else is a huge gaffe on Hendrick Motorsports' part, or you're cheating. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@justlucky8254]

That all makes sense to me.

[@karenkoe7096]

According to Kenny Wallace, A team can pick up the phone and call NASCAR and ask for an official to come out and look at whatever the problem is. Also according to Kenny, Hendrick's shop is only a couple of miles away from NASCAR........so it would not have been a big deal.

[@JohnnyUtah13]

Chad Knauss is right though. So should he just shut up and take it? Naaa...

[@rickyshawl508]

I genuinely thought Denny was stuttering trying to say “shingles shot” the first 3-4 times he said “shingrix shingles shot” 😂 I was so embarrassed for him until I realized I was the moron haha

[@drb4134]

I've heard what Josh Williams said from multiple people who work in the NASCAR industry about single supplier parts sucking. Was told that you'd often get body panels way out of tolerance direct from 5 Star and if they adjusted it to get it legal, BOOM! Altering a single provider part.

[@justlucky8254]

Instead of guessing about his intent and who he's calling out and why, it'd be nice if Chad would clarify what he meant.

[@tq8076]

Why is NASCAR not being more transparent about exactly what HMS did to modify the part?

[@johnhaas2523]

Because it's being appealed

[@erikscherer22]

Because it is being appealed still, they don't want to let everyone else in the garage area know exactly what was the issue in case they are doing something similar and they can catch them.

[@ajdahun]

Why did they never show debris when calling a caution for debris a few years back? Yeah, same reason

[@e.h.5655]

@@erikscherer22 That precaution sort of went out the window when they announced that they found something on Thursday but R&D wouldn't assess the issue until Monday.

[@tnwhiskey68]

Good for Chad because if he doesn't stand up and say something then who will, Brett? This absolutely puts pressure on Nascar in the public eye! Boo Nascar! Go Knauss!

[@NeverUkraine]

NASCAR Facts: Most win in Cup Series history: Hendrick Motorsports. Most penalized team in Cup Series history: Hendrick Motorsports. It's no coincidence, they are always pushing the limits, penalties are part of the equation

[@williamhanna2613]

it started down hill when they told them what gear to run and what shock to run.

[@mikelliteras397]

I think it depends on what they did to the louvers. If they worked on the outer edge to get them to fit, it’s one thing, if they messed with the size or angle of the louvers, that’s a whole other thing. Also with all this complaining about the parts, did Hendricks just use this as an excuse to screw with the parts knowing they’d use the bad parts in an appeal

[@jeffgraham48]

Chad is 100,000% correct!

[@TheShufflinJesus]

HMS voluntarily showed Nascar the louvers and they decided to take them and penalize them. Then they dominated anyways, so these guys against Chad? I’m taking 7 time everyday

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

7 time was also really good at interpretation and bending the rules. How do you think Jimmie won 7?

[@erikscherer22]

Voluntary doesn't mean they can show them to NASCAr and not get a penalty though.

[@shawnconder4984]

​@Aaron Copland you're right, but if I knew I had been screwing with the parts and how much it would cost the team if I got caught, I damn sure wouldn't be volunteering any of my cars to be inspected.

[@Bizz4r2m0ke]

@Shawn Conder from my understanding they didnt volunteer the car to be inspected just the parts, which tells me they couldve been doing something to another part of the car but would rather this be found because it would be easier to appeal. In the older days, teams would purposefully and egregiously incorrectly modify or adjust certain parts just to make sure Nascar didnt find their cheats. So it wouldnt surprise me at all if HMS did this to get by with cheating. Its easier for them to claim the supplier messed up and have to appeal than it would for nascar to just take the win(s) from them by finding it themselves.

[@inkscars6380]

CANT HAVE ENOUGH OF THIS SHOW!

[@georgemeeker9459]

They need a NASCAR Rep available to all Teams for such situations. Part comes in its AFU. NASCAR Rep makes a decision.

[@WilliamWallaceRoss]

Taking all 8 louvers from HMS might have been so they could check their accusations about whether or not there were imperfections in the quality. Now, if they were all modified, then, they are guilty if you can't give them ones off the shelf directly from the supplier.

[@mikelliteras397]

Joey was going to win that race anyway. Byron didn’t run Joey into the wall by accident either so Nascar probably didn’t want to get into that mess.

[@SmokeShow9969]

The man has won seven championships and he is the crazy one… I think he knows better than any of you sitting at that table

[@Neil_]

This is like the oil change kids at a dealership sitting around talking about what the mechanics are doing wrong lol

[@SmokeShow9969]

@@Neil_ right lol

[@EstebanRapido]

7:30 What's the difference? Duh. One is "I wrecked this guy because I wanted to and I knew that it would hurt my race. And then I hit him a few more times." The other is a bump and run. Sure, Joey felt he had to justify it but that was to win the race. Not to screw his own self over like Denny did. Richmond 2013 changed NASCAR. Not for the good. The "100% rule" is not a good rule but as soon as a driver states that they hurt their own race to pursue other motivations, they have obviously violated that rule.

[@JDHitchman]

So are these parts consistant or not? It is knda hard to install parts if some fit and some don't.

[@mikerooney7928]

He’s not calling out anyone! He opened up Pandora’s Box! Yes nascar needs to go back to old skool. Chad made a valid point.

[@clintjenkins3636]

So they took all 8 from HMS, have we heard that all 8 were out of spec?

[@headbrown5629]

How do you get the problem fixed if you don't call them out?

[@erikscherer22]

In all honesty there isn't a problem, if was a issue all the Chevrolet's would have failed the inspection since they all have the same batch of louvers. Hendrick was messing with them and now they are just trying to play the blame game.

[@mattdyer489]

​@erikscherer22 there is most definitely a problem. The teams have been bitching about junk parts since last year. This isn't just a Hendrick problem. They are just the ones that got caught.

[@craigmayhan4009]

If it’s one source parts and only 1 was taken from 1 team and all 8 from another couldn’t all 9 come from 1 batch and the 1 that wasn’t taken be older or newer from another batch? Maybe 1 needed replaced and it came from the same batch Hendricks used because I would assume Hendricks uses the newest parts? Why would all 4 teams manipulate a part? At the same time at the same race? They wouldn’t. They weren’t trying to get away with anything. If they were it’s the worse attempt in the history of NASCAR.

[@Twinspinner]

That was my same thought, Hendrick being a big team, can probably afford to buy 30 of a part all at once, where a team like Kaulig might only buy 2-4 at a time. My first thought was that Kaulig probably happened to buy that one piece at the same time Hendrick bought a bunch theirs and they were from the same batch

[@craigmayhan4009]

@@Twinspinner NASCAR is screwing around with the history of the sport and why it attracted so many fans at one time. I keep up with it still but I rarely watch anymore and I quit going to races years ago. I used to love seeing the differences in cars the manufacturers ran. The way the teams made those cars go fast with big horsepower. Bad handling, fast cars with bad ass drivers and every car looked a little different because each team tweaked their cars in different ways trying to get a advantage over the other. NASCAR has basically given the middle finger to the teams, ingenuity,experimenting,R&D etc etc. it’s like putting a model car together now and everyone gets the exact same box of parts. That’s not NASCAR. It is now but it’s not a NASCAR I’m interested in.

[@tnwhiskey68]

Yeah he is just trying to make it sound worse by saying all 8 but you could say they took half from Justin haley's car.

[@justacoupleofkids320]

I understood that there were tweaks that were agreed to by NASCAR but not actually implemented by the parts provider, so HMS made the agreed to…

[@jamesupton143]

When parts dint fit, send them back

[@DerrickRG]

So......not have parts ready when you hit the track then? There's a shortage from their clown supplier.

[@markcatcash4688]

Funny how the other Chevy teams seems to make their hood close and didn't modify them?

[@johnhaas2523]

Hahaha

[@billydbear4783]

Brett maybe they are getting crappy parts! If you were expected to put these cars together and the parts are not fitting you would put them on blast too ..

[@rickyshawl508]

Look man. You can be a Hendrick fan, and still not warp the truth. I think it’s fairly clear at this point that they were using different louvers to gain a competitive edge. Now does Chads and the speaking heads at HMS’ comments refute that? Yes. Is it because it’s true? No. They are trying to say the right things to get their penalties reduced. Which is what they should be doing. But that doesn’t mean you should brainwash yourself into thinking they did anything other than attempt to gain a competitive advantage. That’s NASCAR. That is the core of the sport, trying to find advantages. Sometimes you get caught, nothing wrong with that. And btw, I’m a HMS guy to my core.

[@billydbear4783]

@Ricky Shawl hey man calm down brother...brainwashing?..I agree with you on Hendrick trying possibly to find an advantage..but my post was more towards Brett's comments on Chad calling out the parts supplier..

[@DerrickRG]

@@rickyshawl508 Wrong. The louvers were still factory stamped parts.

[@rickyshawl508]

@@billydbear4783 yeah my bad, didn’t know another word to use, but yeah I see what you’re saying, but that’s just another tactic involved in “saying the right things to get the penalties reduced” I think

[@rickyshawl508]

@@DerrickRG You’re a perfect example of what I was talking about btw. But yeah, I’m sorry, I worded it wrong. They were factory stamped. they modified the NASCAR approved louvers to gain a competitive advantage, which is surely equally detrimental in NASCAR’s eyes. But Thanks for dropping a perfect example below the post.

[@ytsn_THE_OG]

Wait so Chad said exactly the truth, and y'all are dragging him? His penalty is bs. He's right.

[@YuccaSpeedShop]

Call out the supplier if parts are out of spec. That's fine. Penalizing teams to for bringing an out of spec part into spec is ridiculous. Chad's shot is calling the ugly baby ugly, it needed to be done.

[@gerritbearda154]

Am surprised that Nascar is so far behind the eight ball in terms of standard parts. There is absolutely no need for a single vendor manufacturer and sole distribution through Nascar (ticket clipping?). Do as the Australian Supercars does. Simply issue approved CAD drawings for standard parts and let the teams manufacture to the drawings/solid model files. That way the large teams can maintain in house production and the smaller team either buy from the larger teams or outsource manufacture to local shops. Technical checks at scrutineering to ensure compliance to the drawings. So simple.

[@rogerriggs6055]

guys i think your missing the point, I blame the owners of the teams, they went all out with next gen,nascar is doing what the owners want, to see something different the owners tell nascar they are not going to accept what nascar is spewing out this crap

[@reiheractual]

Brett is stuck in the nascar of yesteryear

[@zzz6valvoline]

Joey changed this sport for the worst. We used to have Mark vs Jeff, Kurt vs Craven, Johnson vs Stewart. Joey doesn't want to put in the work. He just dumps and runs. He's the worst thing that has happened to this sport.

[@radamus210]

As for Denny - I watched that podcast and immediately said out loud - "Denny, that was stupid". just how expensive that stupid moment will be we will find out in the days ahead and sure enough. Videos and tweets have caught so many people, cost so much money, especially to sports stars and employees - Man, even with all those people who have came before 2 weeks ago how could you think that was a good idea???? .... But hey, 50 grand to denny is like $500 bucks to me, kind stings, sucks, but that's how much it costs to be a dumbass..... I just laughed and said "well, enjoy this one, free entertainment for us cause Denny is buying rounds for the house".... But wait - it will happen again, and again and that is the funny part.

[@jameskim62]

Maybe a single supplier of louvers was made by Mr. Helton, he is the sole Ice cube supplier at the race tracks ?????

[@johnhaas2523]

Mike has no power as vice chairman of the board

[@jamieday6602]

Nascar could stop alot of the talk if they were transparent and showed how the regular parts look and pictures for the modified parts! Why they don't do this is just insane! Doesn't make sense!

[@donwensil5027]

Just bring all these parts out and set them on the table together and let's all take a look !

[@karenkoe7096]

Personally, I could care less about craftsmanship or fabricators, etc. All that all of that does is create a situation where a few big money teams just craft and fabricate themselves into advantages that the small, less well funded teams just can't do. There were things last year with these new cars that needed improvement (some of it seems to be corrected) but I did love the fact that there was, what was it something like 15 different winners. In other words it somewhat leveled the playing field. This year (as I knew would happen) big money outfits have caught up and found ways (again) to win just about every race.

[@tnwhiskey68]

Haha damn TJ, that's dirty! Put Dale on blast about a boat like that!

[@jeffyoder8105]

Nascar Management are equal partners with the single source suppliers for the problems with the current version of the next gen cars and until Nascar Management grow some balls and run Nascar the way Big Bill would be Nascar is in serious trouble as far as keeping fans

[@robertpenix7255]

What happened to stock car racing, nothing is stock, Nascar is false advertising the sport simply calling it stock car racing,bring cars that are all the same is a parade, not a race!! A race is who can go from point a to point b the fastest, they should build cars from stock parts,a twik them them self's to find speed,the only rule should be must be stock parts ,

[@anitagarrison6916]

Yep!! What they said, especially at the end.

[@tritontransport]

I’ll just say that I think……or actually I know, chad knaus knows way more than some field filler driver 🤷‍♂️😂. Of all people for nascar to hire they hire Elton sawyer? 🤔🥴🤣.

[@bradwright2841]

From what I understand they found out the parts were bad and still let him go race

[@johnhaas2523]

HMS never raced with the modified louvers

[@tnwhiskey68]

I'm sure nascar will have to look into it in therefore who knows when the appeal will be. This will be more like a trial than traffic court.

[@johnhaas2523]

Wednesday morning is the appeal for Hendrick Motorsports

[@johnstaniszewski5504]

Cheatin Chad whining about this is rich.

[@DerrickRG]

Smoothbrain alert.

[@kristenwhite2701]

Thanks for having Josh on. When are you going to warm the studio up a bit? Everyone looks freezing.

[@johnhaas2523]

Jrm probably doesn't have much heat in the studio as probably a closet or something turned into a studio.

[@kristenwhite2701]

@@johnhaas2523 At least they’re getting smarter and wearing hoodies. Must not bother Freddie.

[@Dannyedelman4231]

And kids look up to these guys and Nascar is basically saying kids it's okay to lie so you can win

[@rickyshawl508]

You’ve got a point. Complete contrast to the expectations of pro players in other sports.

[@Dannyedelman4231]

@@rickyshawl508 yep they are basically saying cheat but dont say anything unless you want to pay us

[@M22.C0bra]

So it's not gonna be perfect because they have to make it so fast. But you will jail the team for fixing it?

[@aszilagyi100]

What do you think? I believe all Racing fines should ultimately go to American children’s charities! It would suck some of the pain away but also help Americans in need at the same time

[@mindcrime828]

All fines go to the NASCAR Foundation so are distributed to various charities that foundation supports.

[@josephmoore1168]

NASCAR hasn’t gotten their reputation by wrecking people on purpose. This league has tried to become like “stick and ball” sports that they have forgotten what made them famous.

[@eddieredmann3]

It honestly wouldn't be hard for NASCAR to randomly sample a lot of these parts before they went to teams and determine whether or not they were within specifications. And after it was determined whether or not HMS's claim was believable or not from the sample, adjust the penalty accordingly. As to Denny, I agree that the double standard of only penalizing drivers who admit to wrecking other drivers is nonsense and needs to be replaced with consistent penalties for all dangerous driving.

[@johnhaas2523]

It would be hard as teams get them directly from the supplier

[@stephenbreen7570]

These stupid penalties put Brad's entire season in the dust last year.

[@scottpierchorowicz3943]

I'm glad someone said they hate the louvers

[@truegret7778]

Who at NASCAR is/was stupid enough to require a single source provider? Knauss is SPOT-ON. Knauss is NOT calling out the suppliers, but is saying the process is flawed. Brett is absolutely wrong, spot-off on this one without a doubt. The clear and OBVIOUS reason to take one louver is because the quality control is so "eff-ed" up and inconsistent that it is a hit or miss deal.

[@skittlecar1]

What if they modified the louver to be within spec? That's my question. Run an "illegal" stock louver. Or a "legal" modified one?

[@truegret7778]

@@skittlecar1 That is precisely the question in my opinion.

[@aiwash2766]

Chad Knaus is literally the poster child for cheating in nascar

[@Big_T51]

yep and just ask Dale Jr. he was also

[@DerrickRG]

"innovation" is the word you were looking for.

[@jamesemmeneckersr.1875]

Hey DBC...what if Joey got the same penalty for last years deal.. Does he win championship?

[@howardwest2707]

Well we know who the yes man is. If the parts are wrong the parts are wrong. Nascar and their part suppliers have a commitment to the teams to get it right. If they are not, then Nascar needs to be called out to fix it. Hiding it, covering it up and being a yes man isn't the answer. There has to be wiggle room when Nascar cannot do their job and do quality checks the parts being delivered to the teams. It shouldn't put teams in a bind to run old crap because the designs that were approved were not being made correctly.

[@mutantryeff]

Somebody needs to put wheels on a port-a-potty and put a NASCAR sticker on it.

[@gordongatzke7110]

Why didn't all of the Chevy teams have these issues?

[@johnhaas2523]

Who's to say others haven't had issues but are just putting them on and if the hood doesn't close right it doesn't close right

[@davidking3814]

Were all 9 louvers illegal?

[@johnhaas2523]

Don't know but would assume since they took all 8 of the HMS ones

[@916Motorsports]

I call BS… its not like the parts showed up on a Friday morning and that was it….these parts were more then a week out, u call and alert everyone that shits not right…

[@rickmyers7796]

Denny is the short end of the stick. LOL

[@CaptnJack2u]

Cowards are afraid of upsetting the Golden Rulers of Nascar,,,,,,, Theyre killing the sport !!!!!

[@bobhope4732]

You are 100% right. NASCAR is becoming like the Democratic party.

[@bobhope4732]

Dale Earnhardt Jr should be running NASCAR.

[@bobhope4732]

@Scott Goode you got that right. There is no outlaw race car driver anymore..

[@MRALL4FUN]

AMEN 🙏 TO ALL!!

[@terrybyrne3890]

I've Said it before... Kaluig Racing NEEDS Jr Motorsports to help them!!!

[@paulhenry5497]

They have spoken the truth, they have balls, why would they supply a part that doesn't fit, but anyway race on.

[@Fisha695]

So what company actually makes the louvers? It's not listed on the spec sheet that NASCAR released last year. The sheet list Fiberworks (never heard of) for the hood but lists multi-million dollar half a century old dedicated to racing manufacturing company Dallara as the manufacturer of the Radiator Ducts (what the louvers connect to)....

[@johnhaas2523]

I'm pretty sure it's fiberworks composites.

[@Timberns]

If they suck you ‘spot on’ it… pretty simple

[@DDD-us6uu]

Right on men and women, nailed it.

[@jerrysmaglinski6544]

Nascar Needs to take everybody back to the basics and make your cars what they were founded on leave the teams and drivers alone

[@chadblack3575]

In 2:48 if this playing the gentleman on the right said it we need to go back to when we made our on parts and if that wasn't good enough to we figured it out in on discussions

[@TheReilNeil]

Nascar should not be a spec series. Why are these guys mad about Chad saying what all of the other team owners are thinking? The parts are crap. The cars are crap.

[@johnhaas2523]

I'm pretty sure No team owner is thinking The cars are crap or even crew chiefs. Most of the parts are quality parts. The toe links are designed to brake so something bigger doesn't and the issues with the car from last year are fixed

[@seen48]

Nascar was built on stock cars not guys manipulating parts. Of course Hendrick is pissed they have to buy their part as opposed to making their own. And they checked all 4 cars or did they just confiscate all 8? You guys don’t know at all. Why did they take just one from the 31 car? And take 8 from one team?

[@johnhaas2523]

Everybody pushed the limits and all sorts of stuff.

[@k2rocksstl]

Who owns the supplier? Helton is on the board of 5Star Bodies...

[@johnhaas2523]

Nobody was NASCAR owns fiberworks. They went with the lowest bids to make the parts for the car

[@k2rocksstl]

@@johnhaas2523 check investors. Mike Mittler once told me the only way to make money in NASCAR was to build what they use. He built the tubing notcher, bead roller, and pull down rig among other things.

[@scotthag1993]

7:30 what a chase in 2021 bristol what he did to Harvick he changed the outcome of the race, he's Chase Elliott so he just gets a pass?

[@douglasbrinkman5937]

wish NAPCAR would do a show and tell of what they found.

[@timgonzalez1708]

My question is how did Hendrick have the legal louvers on hand and was able to race! They knew they were different!

[@johnhaas2523]

Didn't others helped out. HMS could of had 1 set AKA the backup car

[@codypk5111]

Legit was gonna say cannibalize the backup car; and even then I wouldn’t put it past Hendrick to have another trailer with enough parts to rebuild two more cars between the 4 teams. Hendrick legit sponsors one of his own cars; there is no way someone with that much money doesn’t have every contingency planned out. Could have had someone just drive them from the facility for all we know.

[@NASCARLIVE88]

I love you guys!

[@vze2fnfg]

Mark Martin LOST a championship to Dale Sr over a manufactor error of 1/16th of an inch on a spring

[@stellingbanjodude]

These are a bunch of clowns. They bash the new car for a year, then someone actually calls them out for it and they get bashed for it? Not worth watching. Oh btw, these guys are the competition who is getting their butts handed to them so take what they say with a grain of salt.

[@dawnmclees]

Ross will always live rent free in Denny’s head??

[@ironhead5263]

Let's face it Chad is one of the biggest cheaters in nascar, and he got caught, good for him

[@americathegreat1179]

Cheating now was legal before its a race they should be able to choose there cars

[@kevinoneill1534]

So far as statute of limitations, guess someone will have to FAFO

[@maxnoe3079]

Chad is just telling the truth. You all need to grow some balls.

[@black82f100]

Surprise Surprise HMS crying again 😢 😭 more appeals than any other team

[@henryracingcompany6909]

Mechanics, engineering and creativity were more important to me than the driver. This racing is a nightmare scenario for me, especially that Atlanta crap. I guess it’s just over for me, it’s sad. I have fond memories of nascar and I miss it.

[@goldysmith6953]

NASCAR supplying a parts and damned if they check them I just know they don't check every one of them that they get from the supplier my next beef is this why penalize the driver he's not the mechanic of the bodyman or the crew chief

[@johnhaas2523]

Nascar does not supply the louvers. Fiberworks composites dose

[@JackCallSports]

NASCAR is really looking more and more like a joke by each passing day

[@tnwhiskey68]

Good point! Fine and penalize Joey Logano!!!

[@2trdmustanggtfordf1hdsgsfa80]

Ah BS… mark Martin piss and moaned every day about how much of an advantage Chevy had on ford… damn…it was embarrassing back then…

[@DerrickRG]

The Gen 7 still looks nothing like the car it's supposed to represent. Why BS us with that crap? The Gen 4 car could still be viable today with all the safety modifications, and at least it didn't pretend to represent the street car.

[@johnhaas2523]

False

[@chadalac1977]

Is there a thing where they get so many louvers and teams pick which ones they use? Like the Mullet guy said there parts are out of spec in the other series, hoods being too low or high wtf that's a huge problem .😢 Out of that many parts I could see some being different . I know I'm RC racing we used to buy 8 motors , Dyno them and only keep good ones, or use certain ones . Like drag racing guys, get a semi load of clutch discs and only keep barely enough for a couple months of racing and sell the others. Lol I know why I don't watch this show or the Denny show. Mom said if you can't say nothing nice.

[@johnhaas2523]

If teams had enough inventory of them right now They could pick the good ones out for ues

[@w1.0]

You are spot off!!!! The squeaky wheel gets a Flux Capacitor!!!!

[@jayaudette2063]

Maybe if the hood won't close you lose your aero and someone else gets the advantage. We're not giving you an out, nor are we telling you you can or can't make your own, to the hood or the louvers. Rules are rules, right or wrong.