DBXL-E 2.0 Proline Trencher Mod

Disclaimer: 1/5th scale cars are big, heavy, and fast, so extra care should be used when driving them. The kinetic energy built up can shatter bones, and damage property.
In this video we modify the Proline Trencher tires designed for the Xmaxx to fit the DBXL-E 2.0. We test them under stock conditions and then add the modifications to make them work properly. We discuss the ups and downs of these tires and then let you decide whether or not they are a viable replacement for the stock tires. Come along as AJ walks you through the Mod and explains how it's done.
Music:
Bobby Richards, 19th Floor
MixKit, Party Robot
RKVC, Chilltronic
Ethan Meisxell, Start Your Engines
Epidemic Sound:
Carvings, Never Return
Deaf Election, Riot Pulse

[@davidsnyder238]

Love my DBXLE and love that you keep bringing us new info, upgrades, and advice. You have helped answer my questions more than once and your videos kick ass. Keep em coming!

[@Naginc]

I just wanted you to know, we appreciate your dedication to the hobby..Great video bruh!

[@AJJAMStudios]

Thank you. 😎👍

[@BigHead104]

As your channel grows, and things change, PLEASE don’t change the level of information you give!! I’ve watched a TON of RC videos (including diff fluid videos), and had no idea that thicker fluid could change the differentials openness.

[@AJJAMStudios]

I’m glad we could help. Thanks a lot for your comment. AJ

[@wingsy16]

I done the centre diff oil a few months ago, totally different car handles so much better. Gotta change out the factory servo for a better one and get some new wheels as they have all cracked Loving the videos man keep em coming

[@AJJAMStudios]

Thanks. Mine all cracked too, but none have come apart yet, and I’ve tried to make that happen. 😎👍

[@cwatson42785]

What did you go with in the center diff? I was thinking one mill? Or should I stick with 500k that AJJam did?

[@christophernewman9280]

Good job on the vids learn alot watching them

[@AJJAMStudios]

I appreciate that 😎👍

[@alankowalski8781]

I give you credit man. Your the first I have ever seen truly bashing that thing other than Kevin Talbot. Don’t worry about those tires ballooning. I would grow mine in the front on my X Maxx and they always held up. Fill that front diff with 50k, 60k if you are using a good servo like a beast 1000 or 2000

[@AJJAMStudios]

Good to know. Thanks for commenting. AJ

[@Watermoehlen]

I really do like this truck…not sure I’m totally sold on it yet as a basher for me but I also want to add a 1/5 scale to my small collection soon….great video and thanks for the diff fluid comparison with great visuals of how that effects the tire ballooning

[@AJJAMStudios]

For the size of the vehicle I'm shocked at how resilient it is. I've always loved the Losi cars, and this one is no different. If you've seen the different videos on the channel for this car you know how hard we run them, and this one held up great. the body does clack when you land it, and I think it's due to the cage inside of it adding weight, but you get used to that very quickly, or at least I did. I'm glad you're taking your time and doing your research before buying a 1/5th scale. Research is key to getting what you really want. Best of luck choosing. And...thanks for the comment. AJ

[@meirdeaph8159]

Wikid awsome! Thanx

[@AJJAMStudios]

Glad you liked it. Thank you 😎👍

[@SpeedSyko]

Perfect tire for that truck!

[@AJJAMStudios]

They work, that much is true. I still love the stock ones, but the new ones give much more traction and control. I hear the Badlands are good too. Thanks for commenting. AJ

[@johnnygonzales8934]

Hey AJ! I finally bought it! Got a Losi DBXLE2.0 for my bday! How’s it up hold up so far since you’ve had it? Any recommendations out the box? I’ve seen some of your others reviews, later when I break the chassis braces I’ll replace them with the aluminum ones. I went 500k for center diff as well. Tighten up all the screws on the bottom of the chassis, am I missing anything? TIA!! HAPPY THANKSGIVING 2022!!!

[@AJJAMStudios]

You hit the high points already. Keep an eye on the pinion and check for loosening screws as time progresses, and as always, avoid any sudden stops from full speed. Great rig. Love ours. Thanks for asking. AJ

[@jive7777]

Hey AJ, Great vids! Just subbed, as I've been watching quite a bit of your channel lately. I just ordered the DBXLE 2.0. I have a few questions tho. I have four 8s "1/5" scales rc's, been in the hobby over 15 years, never owned a Losi, always wanted one, so I finally pulled the trigger. My question is, in all my 8s rigs, I run near 1 to 1 gearing and 20 million center diff oil. Seems to be great for the Outcast EXB 8s and Kraton EXB 8s as well. Usually 300k in the rear and 1 million up front. I run the Max 5, 800kv combo in those rigs. Is this Losi internally geared differently than the Arrma's? I see most people running tiny pinions, and low diff weights in this rig, compared to what I am used to. I run 39t spur and 37t pinion. I see the DBXLe comes with a 50t spur, much like the 8th scale rigs I own. Just wondering if you had any advise on what other pinion and/or spurs would work with this rig. Do you happen to know if the final gear ratio is wildly different than the Arrma's, and that's why people are running such different gearing and diff weights? I will be running the Max 5, 800kv combo in this as well. Thanks for all your help! Keep up the great work!

[@AJJAMStudios]

So far we've only run the stock setup, mostly for the channel because of our format here. Personally, I don't like to stiffen the 1/5th scale rigs up in the diffs department too much because I like the ability to bleed off the extra energy when the rig hits the ground after some good air. I find it helps the rig last longer between services and we seem to break fewer parts unless we land under full power; which kills everything most of the time. As far as the gearing goes, I can't actually answer that one yet because we've only recently jumped into the 1/5th scale category, and our experience in that arena is (although extensive within the hobby) not that advanced yet. If you happen to find the answer to your question, please let us know your findings, we would greatly appreciate it. As it goes, we only answer questions we can truthfully answer; we're not the kind who guesses and talks about things we haven't gotten experience in yet. I wish we could be more help on the matter. I will say this, the DBXL-E 2.0 is an awesome rig, even with the stock configuration, but I would definitely upgrade the center braces straight out of the box; the stock ones do not hold up.😎👍

[@jive7777]

@@AJJAMStudios Thank you so much for your feedback! I will keep you posted with my build, and findings. Thanks again!

[@cwatson42785]

@@jive7777 Hey Mike any tips 3 months later on your experience? I'm running that same max5 combo on my dbxl and I'm new to 1/5th scale as well. Thanks

[@cwatson42785]

Hey bud months later how are you liking the bigger tires/wheels? I was thinking of going with either the 8s outcast wheels or some duratrax lock ups. Are you still running these? And did you ever post that diff mod video?

[@AJJAMStudios]

I did post the diff mod, and there's a tire video coming out soon. Check it out. Thanks for commenting. 😎👍

[@yurdsdanlog]

I greatly appreciate your video. I learned something about the difference the differential fluid makes. Kindly put in the link where to get the differential oil you used, as well as the tools used for the mods, I think it's called a step bit? Thanks!

[@AJJAMStudios]

You should be able to pick up all of that at your local hobby shop. 500k diff oil, which you can get on eBay, and metric hex drivers, which are also found on eBay. Thank you for asking. 😎👍

[@claude3990]

Great video, Im going to try the 500k oil.I just got mine and I notice the back wheels are tilted inward if you're looking at the vehicle from front to back. When looking at the vehicle coming at you, you can clearly see the back wheels are tilted inwards and the front are straight and the running radius is terrible (left turns) ordered the second servo setup. Any suggestions on the back wheels and how they sit and can be adjusted would be appreciated, thanx in advance...>Stay Safe

[@AJJAMStudios]

My camber is tipped in at the rear of the car as well, and that helps with handling and stability under power. As far as the steering goes, I'm upgrading the servo right now to combat the sluggish and sometimes unpredictable steering of the car. Also, the front tires should be toed out slightly, not straight, this helps with responsiveness and turning under power. And, add to that, I find that when you increase the tire size the stock servo simply doesn't hold up very well. The manual is kind of vague about how the camber and such is to be setup on this car, but the Losi TLR Typhon Manual goes into great detail on the subject. I recommend you try and download a copy for it for yourself if you can find it online, I find it indispensable. Thanks for asking. 😎👍

[@meanf1502]

Great video what do you think about putting the dbxle tires an wheels on my kraton 8s like the all terrain tires

[@AJJAMStudios]

I would watch that video. I hope it works. 👍

[@3SonsRC]

How have these held up for you over time, the extra weight cause damages or worth the extra weight for MORE FUN?

[@AJJAMStudios]

They did cause more heat build up and required temp watching. They are fun and give more rotation in the air, but cost performance in different areas. We use them now and then, but not as much as the stock tires. Thanks for asking, AJ

[@alimaleki217]

These tires look amazing! Seeing as these are (apparently) bead-locs and would be relatively easy to tape I assume you have a reason for not doing it? Or was it that the diff oil change was going to be done anyways and took care of the problem?

[@AJJAMStudios]

There were no inner holes, probably because they are bead-locks. I did vent the outsides and that helped with the distortion under power.

[@thomasthetankengine7153]

Ali Maleki Why do you say apparently?

[@alimaleki217]

@@thomasthetankengine7153 Only because I didn't know for a fact. Some wheels are made to look like bead-locs but aren't.

[@levynatan]

Hello don't you need extensions? I saw a video and maybe the mx43 hit the rear par of the body is this correct? nice video as usual very helpful?

[@AJJAMStudios]

I really had very little contact with the body. Only when I hadn't done the diff yet and when the front tires overspun while turning. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to put extenders on it, but, keep in mind, the further from center you get the tires, the easier it is to break stuff; arms and such. Since they had almost no contact with the truck itself, and since the rig handles awesome with them on it, I think we'll leave it as is. PS, this isn't the only tires and wheels we are running on it, we have others for differing applications. Thanks for the comment and the question. AJ

[@levynatan]

@@AJJAMStudios thank you for your helpful answer

[@maximet.8809]

I love this car so much ! Great video and content on the channel. You got my subscription. Already have its baby brother (tenacity DB Pro) but I am afraid going to the DBXL is be too big of a gap in terms of required driving skills and space needed. Might go for something in between like an Arrma Mojave first. Any thoughts on that ?

[@Blueknight1960]

Driving skill comes with practice, as long as you have the room ( which is needed for this rig ), you'll do fine. Just don't hit anybody or yourself, it hurts like hell and it'll put you on the ground.

[@AJJAMStudios]

or in a cast. Weight requires caution. 😎👍

[@Blueknight1960]

@@AJJAMStudios Yep, mine in it's current build weighs 37lbs. I also have an 18t pinion and 46t spur, a leopard 58113 870kv motor and the max 5 esc. I've done 59mph on grass. That weight will defiantly break bones if hit by it.

[@thomasthetankengine7153]

Get the Mojave First and if your still keen get the dbxle it's really huge and if you can tame the Mojave then you will be ready for a dbxle 👍 they are both great machine's ✌️

[@maximet.8809]

Thanks for the input

[@johnmiller4553]

🤙🤙🤙🤙

[@jeffmays7192]

Since I learned to use fishing line around the tires, I haven’t given tires a second thought.

[@MW-jj3wd]

I Want to check this out, but what kinda oil you use ?

[@AJJAMStudios]

We use 500K weight diff oil for the center diff, the brand is not overly important. We picked up some at our local hobby store and never paid attention to the brand because they all seem to work equally well. It's the weight that matters most. Thanks for asking. 😎👍

[@Blueknight1960]

Another thing you'll find out is when those tires balloon and you turn (especially to the right ) they will grab the bottom of the body and bend or rip it. I'd suggest getting the hub extenders. I learned from personal experience. As far as the servo goes, the stock specktrum servo didn't last 30 mins when new.

[@AJJAMStudios]

Copy that. Thanks for sharing 😎👍

[@silly_d_williams2167]

Get a hitec d845 servo... You're welcome

[@Blueknight1960]

@@silly_d_williams2167 That was back in Jan when I 1st got the dbxl-e 2.0. I now use a JX servo that claims over 1000 in/pounds torque. So far, so good.

[@silly_d_williams2167]

@@Blueknight1960 I've put the hitec d845 in my dbxle 2.0,08s exb, and kraton 8s... It's my fav 5th scale and servo for the price.. Hasn't failed Me yet

[@AJJAMStudios]

Sounds like a winner to me. I'm glad you're passionate about it, that says a lot for the product. Thanks for the tip. AJ

[@jdodds1023]

Might want to upgrade that servo for those wheels.

[@AJJAMStudios]

Good advise. The stock servo did work for a while, although it was slow in responding, but we blew it out later during another video. We swapped it out with an upgraded version and the difference is amazing. Thanks for the comment. AJ

[@BIGGBULLxxx]

you seem to always make good rc videos... the mod that I did to mine was to just buy some rovan rc or king motor trencher tires and wheels for the 5th scale Baja already mounted tires with foam inserts on 5th scale bead lock rims I will put up a video soon but they fit right on. And only cost 80 bucks for front set and rear set at the time of purchase. they are not as wide as the proline x Maxx wheels but they seem to be just right. I haven't done the transmission fluid yet but I'll get to it. 👍

[@AJJAMStudios]

Awesome info, brother. Thanks for sharing. 😎👍

[@yurdsdanlog]

I'm considering using belted tires instead...any recommendations?

[@AJJAMStudios]

Not at the moment. We haven’t gotten that far yet. Thanks for asking. 😎👍

[@jesseamaya4594]

Yup, trenchers need earplugs, Gotta admit I love the trenchers on my Nero.

[@daviddobson20]

I have earplugs in my center diff but can try 20 million that should help alot.

[@AJJAMStudios]

Awesome 😎👍

[@ml-cf9re]

Will the axles hold up

[@AJJAMStudios]

They have so far.

[@justonjacoby4455]

Gorilla tape inside makes them not grow I have the mx43 badlands on my 5ive-t 2.0 works perfectly

[@silly_d_williams2167]

Badlands are better for this rig... Good video 🍻

[@Blueknight1960]

The badlands still balloon.

[@silly_d_williams2167]

@@Blueknight1960no shit.. Not as much

[@Blueknight1960]

@@silly_d_williams2167 Yep, no shit. I prevent the ballooning with braided 120lb fishing line.

[@ahwayzcool4630]

I wish some company out there would make a tire for this truck that doesn't balloon like crazy. I put a castle xlx2 1100kv in my truck and I had to turn the power down low as possible and tires still balloon like crazy.

[@AJJAMStudios]

How stiff is your center diff fluid?

[@ahwayzcool4630]

@@AJJAMStudios stock fluid. I'll put some thicker fluid in there. What weight do you suggest?

[@AJJAMStudios]

I noticed a marked improvement with 500k, so it still softens the impact to the internals when you land unlike really stiff fluids like 5mil. The tire ballooning is more controlled and the car has better launch capabilities. I'd give that a try and see if it helps. You can always stiffen it up some if you think you need it. Locking the center diff, however, is a bad thing. It only serves to break components like drive shafts and drive cups when impact with the ground occurs; like landing jumps. Also, I recommend not being on the throttle when you land, as it has the potential to ruin your running gear because of the added forces applied during landing. "Give" has to be in there someplace for longevity to happen, and the center diff helps spread that energy without tearing up your system. I hope this helps. AJ

[@ahwayzcool4630]

@@AJJAMStudios OK! Thanks for the advice. I'll do this soon!

[@tobbymandella932]

I thought for sure it would have broke when you jumped into the tree 🌲

[@AJJAMStudios]

Bad launch, worse landing, tough truck. 😎👍

[@jeffmays7192]

Yeah, the stock look a bit wimpy by comparison.

[@mutosanrc1933]

noooo please dont use such ugly tires on a sand/desert buggy. it looks like a child draw a car with to big tires.

[@Blueknight1960]

You have no idea what you are talking about, so hush.

[@wesdex04]

Its not your desert buggy and its not your video so you don't have to worry bro. Its all good. It looks awesome btw but you can disagree and its A-Ok

[@AJJAMStudios]

Copy that, It's good to have an opinion. Thanks for commenting. AJ