DBZ: Buu's Fury is a Disappointment - Casp

[@timskiii]

I *LOVED* buu's fury with a passion as a youngling but after revisiting it.. I still really really like it lmao

[@Caspicum]

It's honestly not a horrible game, it's just a bit shitty compared to the previous one. People think I'm dunking on it and calling it a bad game, but it's more of a comparative thing hey. It's pretty comfy.

[@monkeymonk2278]

Same here.

[@DaNewWrksOfMeh]

@@Caspicum your'e allowed to say it's a shitty game lol. I agree with the comment. I remember playing it as a little guy. I loved it. However, I remember it being significantly easier than legacy of goku 2. In lg2 I kept on getting my ass handed to me by android 19. In Buu's fury, I had absolutely no asses handed to me, and was, indeed, the one handing out asses to their respective owners. After learning what a STAT is (thanks to final fantasy) I could see myself going back to these two games and seeing why one is objectively better. I would have to try it myself, but from the gameplay, it seems like you were pretty easily op'ing everything... which for a seasoned rpg gamer is no fun. I loved this game when I was kid. I would love to replay both of them and give an opinion. Either way, if it sucks, it sucks. Don't deny that you think it sucks.

[@dustinfortson6753]

The npc with the double shield is the hardest thing to fight in the game no cap.

[@stewiegriffin2032]

The fighting got a bit too easy the more I aged revisiting it. I can literally speed through it in a day, but tbh it’s still a solid game

[@gilgafresh923]

Although I like Buu's Fury, I see what you mean in terms of the poor choices they've made with this game like the wall bounce removal and the exp door spam. I do think for some characters, they've definitely made Ki Blasts more viable, such as Vegeta's Big Bang attack now dragging enemies giving him the chance to beat down foes as the ball goes across the screen.

[@Caspicum]

Oh for sure. I love the attempted integration of the ki blasts, and big bang attack is basically a free punch enabler. The beams feel so satisfying as well, it's just a shame that to use them more than every so often, you either need to constantly pause to chug healing items, or wait for a Super Saiyan power cycle.

[@meliodas2667]

I always do that

[@datboi9539]

Don't forget Vegeta actually having the Final Flash. Seriously, he should had it in LOG 2

[@snowyrox3331]

Fun fact about Vegeta's big bang attack, when it's fully charged and moving across the screen, you can actually shoot a ki blast at it causing it to explode with a wide radius upon enemies for a shit ton of damage. That's how it's meant to be used in this game.

[@AvalancheReviews]

I paid 2 dollars to applaud this video. Worst 2 bucks I've ever spent.

[@Caspicum]

I don't even know what that is, but thank you american for clapping. It's a proud tradition that your people are well known for. I legit don't think I authorized that, hey. Someone's jacked my shit.

[@AvalancheReviews]

@@Caspicum Apparently it shows up for some creators and not others. They're rolling it out by region or something.

[@newphilmz3605]

I liked this game, but I agree the grinding was a bit much. I'd play for hours just beating up simple enemies and going in and out of areas to respawn enemies. Getting through a new door felt like a bigger achievement than beating a boss.

[@TreyTruth619]

Took at least an hour to get through that 130 door with Goku to fight Buuhan to fuse with Vegeta smhhhhh

[@newphilmz3605]

@@TreyTruth619 Yeah it can be a bit much. This was my main game for two different vacations because it was so good at passing time to level up.

[@kkonabill95]

I love the grinding in this game, makes sense I later became a RuneScape player

[@felypinho020]

Tf you talking about, leveling up in this game is easy af, now leveling up in legacy of goku 2 was hard

[@DaMainman2]

Come for the bangin' Title Screen music, stay for the janky mish-mash of Buu Saga, filler and movie villains.

[@Caspicum]

LOVE movie villains. They're all so expendable.

[@dantepowell6416]

Okay Okay

[@ravensmansand8285]

I’ve never played buu’s fury before until last week, and i beat the whole game already. I seriously loved this game. My favorite part is how well it gets even most dialogue correctly and puts so many events from the show into a game. Other games(other than log1 and 2) really don’t do that stuff so it’s just unique and fun for me

[@michelchong7437]

Yes i agree with u they should have kept the charging attk for buu fury and the enemy bouncing when hit the wall thats the only thing that disappointed me in buu furys otherwise i love log2 and buu fury Log1 full of shit xd

[@youtuberdrew4268]

Buu's fury was literally my favorite dbz game on the NBA, I played this game to completion maybe 2 or 3 times, loved every second of it.

[@Mrloser-pw6yk]

I didn’t even know you could guard so I just went through the game just punching and blasting everyone 😂

[@GratefulforFreePress]

Right? it took me so long to figure that out, I had beat the game multiple times before I even knew that was thing

[@SeeZer0]

for real i use to die so much 😭

[@tommyaldridge5252]

Legacy of Goku 2 also has that badass trunks theme

[@MicahhhHD]

One of my absolute favorite things about Buu’s Fury is the player’s ability to choose which stats get increased by level up instead of the game just doing it for you. That’s one definite improvement no doubt.

[@Caspicum]

For sure, if it were better balanced, I'd much prefer it to the past game. Kinda feels like if they're dishing out your level ups, there's no point even telling you what you're getting.

[@stellarknight04]

@@Caspicum spent everything on STR and one shot everything lol

[@crazycano18]

my silly little kid brain didnt get that until closing arcs when you take control of ultimate gohan. i had a whole bunch of points to use it was awesome!

[@joshobeirne81]

One of my favourite things to do is play nightmare mode as it makes the game very difficult. All you have to do is never put any stat points into stats so you're always basically lvl 1

[@jesse-rz5nu]

Buus fury is amazing, easily the best. Tbh grinding is real but if using the 2 ton armbands make things wayyy better

[@gavinrobinson2270]

I absolutely loved this game as a kid, and I still do. I beat it for the first time years later in 2019 and I still loved the game just as much as back then. Could just be nostalgia, but I still feel that buu’s fury and legacy of goku 2 are some very underrated games in my opinion (Along with eternal darkness but thats completely besides the point.)

[@GratefulforFreePress]

i've been looking so hard for a gba emulator for iOS that can run LGII and Buu's Fury... the one I got for some reason can only handle LGI and it makes me so sad...

[@gavinrobinson2270]

@@GratefulforFreePress Look up delta, its actually what I beat legacy of goku 2 and buus fury on in 2019. You'll need a computer sadly but it doesnt need to be anything to powerful

[@GratefulforFreePress]

@@gavinrobinson2270 thank you kind sir

[@gavinrobinson2270]

@@GratefulforFreePress No problem man, have fun!

[@fudgenugget8875]

I love Buu's Fury. Only problem is it's too easy. The first time I played it as a kid I didn't realize you could allocate experience points until I kept dying at BuuHan. Then I figured it out and the game became ridiculously easy.

[@valentds]

as vegito? vegito is op, how you won against janenba but lost at buuhan? the best thing is allocate points most on defense and ki attacks, because if you allocate all on physical attack... game is done

[@dannymartial7997]

Level doors aside, the gameplay mechanics added in Buu's Fury makes the game 10 times more enjoyable than the first 2 games. Enemies repositioning themselves every time you punch them was super annoying. And lack of control with stat points and when to apply healing items was also a huge oversight of the prequels. It's personally my favorite of the trilogy, and grinding was part of the fun. Otherwise, you could beat the whole game in a single evening.

[@Vashkey]

Yeah im some weirdo that waited 17 years to play this but i was pretty surprised at all the grinding for level gates and it had me second guessing if Legacy of Goku II was as good as i remembered

[@Caspicum]

Legacy of Goku II is still incredibly comfy. I'm pretty harsh on games, as you can probably tell from the video, but every time I play it, I revert back to that kid playing it at 80% speed on a very primative version of Visual Boy Advance. I think it's good enough to ignore a lot of the smaller issues because the flow of gameplay is pretty consistent. Very rarely do you have big pauses or momentum breaks. Always worth confirming though, especially since it's like 6 hours long.

[@lordmcsmith]

20:53 "Imagine making crits a thing you don't want." *Gen 1 pokemon has entered the chat*

[@Super12212012]

I know it's been two years since you made this video but I read the title and was ready to be angry. but after watching the video. you're right.

[@Caspicum]

Join me in Legacy of Goku 2, brother.

[@RiiViiMedia2424]

9:28 *In the next exciting episode of Dragon Ball Z, Hercule moves 10 feet to check out a house!*

[@Caspicum]

Legit my favourite part of the game tbh.

[@cracklasco]

I really loved the Legacy of Goku 2 and Buus Fury when I was a kid. I bought them along with a Gameboy a couple years back and I STILL LOVE IT!

[@erenaydilekci2334]

25:23 'gohan gets absolutely fucked' really made me laugh

[@Caspicum]

Videl's a trooper

[@souleblade32790]

Buu's Fury is one of the best DBZ games I ever played. In fact I still play it to this day.

[@MicahhhHD]

He said, “when Pickle fights Cell.” 🤣🤣

[@DannyWhitemusic]

Best part of this game are the side quests. Me being a kid playing as goten and trunks and running into broly got me hyped because it was right after I watched broly second coming. I miss the times before the internet where I had no idea what was in store for me when I played a game

[@ParallaxSound315]

I love both LoG 2 and BF, but I still prefer BF. Not only is the Buu saga my favorite of DBZ, but there's a couple gameplay things I feel were WAY better in BF than LoG 2, specifically the SSJ transformations having their own energy bars, and making food/items something you store and can use later instead of instant use when you pick it up edit: I see you pointed those out towards the end lol Also yeah, fuck that dinosaur

[@LSSJL]

Honestly never thought about criticizing this game. There definitely is pacing issues and lack of side quests/interactions. My original play through I never noticed the lopsided imbalance for the physical attacks. Since I tried to balance stats equally. Which leads to my personal critique that you can choose to distribute your stats anyway you like and the game will be as challenging as you make it. And I'm one of those love to grind type people so I never saw any issues with needing to grind. Pointing it out has made me realize ots required. But I love how this game has a power trip. Abusing that physical attack makes grinding easy and fun. My highlight examples being: 1. Grinding goku to level 100 before 65 door. 2. Grinding Gohan to 175 before tournament/Babidi. The latter was to receive Gohan at level 200 on Supreme Kai's planet well ahead of normal circumstances. Some may say its ridiculous crazy to do that.

[@ChikkinMcNuggetz]

For whatever reason, when I was a wee lad, I loved that game.

[@Caspicum]

DBZ games that weren't just 2D fighters were pretty scarce back in the day. Anything was better than nothing. I felt the same, my dude.

[@PepsiMan666]

@@Caspicum now review the ccg game for the gba

[@quanicle101]

because it’s good

[@radicallaruby]

I'm glad you pointed out the botched combat system, that was always the biggest reason I was disappointed. I think most people honestly like this one more be cause I had more content to unlock such as fusions. Also, the game does come across as sloppy and unpolished, sometimes a character could get permanently stuck (I think it's that ninja level). 2 is easily the better game....even though they barely gave me Goku through the whole adventure then replace him with a joke character after dying...

[@Caspicum]

I got permanently stuck behind that bloody gate, I remember it well! There's a 160 door or something when you return to the place you last fought Buu on earth, and if you go behind it, it respawns and can't be destroyed. There's also a save point there, so if you save, you're buggered. You can glitch through it with Fusions, but what a mess.

[@radicallaruby]

@@Caspicum yup, that's the one!

[@radicallaruby]

@@Caspicum yup, that's the one!

[@elmerhouston5915]

Man I loved this game so much.. I remember my friends and I loved the grind we would train our characters and see who had the stronger character. We would use the dojo to do 1v1s. Around this time RuneScape was really popular and I just loved the whole Grind aspect of it.

[@wildudyr]

Thank you for addressing the wall bounce, in my opinion one of the greatest losses. I also agree with a lot of other points tho. I'm happy someone made a video comparing the games with one another.

[@Caspicum]

It's a shame about the audio quality though... I will say, the wall bounce made me feel so skilled in LoG2, because I'd hit a dude into a wall, he'd spring off it, and I'd swap sides to carry him into another combo. Buu's Fury just felt soulless, and like a lot of that smaller stuff got neglected.

[@wildudyr]

@all livesmatter you could catch him seemlessly by turning around and hitting without being hit yourself. Timing and predicting that was an expression of skill. Yes, beating someone into the wall is cool I guess, but it's mindless and boring.

[@kokirimido3924]

i really liked the game, except the fact that gohan had to be level 85 to enter the spaceship

[@Caspicum]

Level caps straight up be killin' me fr fr

[@pages4573]

Just got done the video, it very much feels like an attempt to streamline the game. Something I never really understood. If they are playing the third game in the series, it's clear that the people who bought it have at least a basic understanding of the pacing from the previous game. The level doors just seem so bizarre, wouldn't it just make more sense to have the main game level curve me lower. Like 125, and have some extra areas? Instead of making the player grind 10-15 levels between every major encounter?

[@Caspicum]

Pretty much. A 100 hard cap would be fine with lower EXP gains and proper stat balancing. If they wanted to go crazy, chucking in a few end-game areas with better equipment, or a higher level cap solely for those areas would go a long way too.

[@eyecontrol4900]

Thanks for the in-depth review! I appreciate how you went into detail the differences between the 2 games. I loved both games as a kid, but noticed over the yrs I went back to LoG2 a lot more. I think this video explains why. I didnt have a problem with the storymode (lack of side-quests) as it follows the manga/anime quite closely. The main issue I have with it is the big drop in difficulty and the stupid amount of grinding. That lv85 gohan gate ALWAYS gets me! There isn't a fight in the game that comes close to the difficulty of the final Cooler fight, or the ussj trunks vs cell fight from LoG2. I wish the dev's made the stat boosts automatic, so you wouldnt manually pump all the stat gains into strength to 1-shot enemies. Got no issue with the held items, just wish they buffed the enemies, or at least nerfed the characters a bit. Also I agree they should've made mystic gohan a separate transformation. (I know this happens in other games like Budokai2 & 3, where he has blue aura and strength increase) I still enjoy going back to Buu's fury once a yr, but it doesnt feel as polished or refined as LoG2. You know that LoG2 is a well made game, when you see there arent any major game breaking glitches or oversights, like the senzu bean trick.

[@rabbitcorp.103]

I love love love buus fury it's literally the most played game I own I beat it atleast once a year ❤

[@raushanlatiff96]

Wow. You put a lot of effort into this video. Your channel deserves more recognition

[@Caspicum]

Awww, thanks! A mate made a video similar, but got ass-blasted for overlooking stuff. I wanted it to be air-tight.

[@GalickGon]

I remember grinding so much more in the second game than this game. Maybe because if the weighted clothes or easier super sayain aspects it didn’t feel like I was grinding.

[@Caspicum]

That could be true. I think grinding was more fun in the second game too, though you didn't really need to do it. the experience bumps carried you through most of it.

[@dduuddeechil]

That Cooler joke hurt my soul

[@deejay3297]

since this video is so long and boring i looked thru the comments n saw urs while listen n to him drone on about watever so i was ready when it happened, so thanks m8 all hail dreamwhale

[@Caspicum]

So it was perfectly executed then. :^)

[@annyonny1224]

"Wa. I don't like grinding." The video. The review.

[@Caspicum]

I do like grinding though, I have a whole video on why I like it, it's more about how its used in absense of actual events that I dislike. I also talk about plenty of other things, like how the Buu Saga doesn't adapt to being an RPG very well, and how events and progression suffer due to various choices. I contrast a lot of it with Legacy of Goku 2, which doesn't suffer these issues. Do you use reddit by any chance?

[@open_420]

grinding has always been a core part of this series. I enjoyed the first game immensely because it forced you to grind a shit ton to beat frieza without cheats. the grinding to me was the fun part.

[@Caspicum]

The first one was garbo though, it was too clunky and hard to tell when you were hitting things. The second one only required grinding for the Pickle and Tronk doors, as the progression curve was pretty tight. I actually played through it recently and kept Gohan at level 3 until the Cell fight, which was tough but it kinda showed how you can win without levels at all.

[@lucianopereira8798]

Funny how you mentioned sequelitis, my first thought when I started watching your digimon series was how it was like a more focused, multi-episodes equivalent of arin's, and I still think your videos are just as good if not better, keep it up👍🏼

[@Caspicum]

That's way too much praise, but I appreciate it. I wish my boy Arin would get back to Sequelitis because he's definitely got good ideas, he just needed to refine that Zelda one a bit more. Some clearer language use, and less hostility would've gone a long way hey.

[@razorthecurse]

Yeah, that is too much praise, don't give him the wrong idea that he makes content that I want to see a fuck-ton more of like with a shin megami tensei retrospective. That would cause him to play like 40 fucking games and fuel his channel content for the next 4 years or so.

[@dynastystar5515]

I loved buu’s fury when I played it a long time ago, we have very different tolerances to grinding. If I like the combat, I don’t mind more of it on trash mobs

[@Caspicum]

but's fury sounds like a vicious watch tbh A lot of people haven't played it recently, and I recommend if you can find the time, and find the game, it's worth trying again. Legacy of Goku 2 and Buu's Fury are both 8~ hour games, it's worth going back for the 'stalgia trip and to *confirm your suspicions*

[@dynastystar5515]

Casp O'Saurus I’ve played all three

[@IzzySarru]

The grinding is so easy in Buu's Fury too because of the weighted gear. Though locking the best weighted gear with the last story fight when there's basically no post-game content seems like a stupid decision.

[@dynastystar5515]

@@Caspicum sorry for responding so late. I don't really have any suspicions because of my gaming habits even now. I'm the type of person who will fight every enemy I pass. If I see an achievement, or know there is one for cancelling 100 enemy spells or attacking 300 enemies from behind on the field or something like that, I'll "grind" some progress on that achievement early(though I wouldn't do it all in one go. The game I'm specifically thinking of scales experience vs the levels of the enemies in the game, so I don't grind the achievement out at the beginning because by the end of getting the achievement, I'd be getting 1 experience per fight). If an RPG's combat is too tedious to do against trash mobs, then its a bad game to begin on the combat level, even if you ignore the grind. Playing a game on Easy or even Normal in some cases can make a game even more tedious as opposed to being tactical and changing up your strategies depending on what your opponants do, I can see easier difficulties being tedious if you're killing every enemy in one attack.

[@ConnorKrohnicles]

@@Caspicum I'm playing buu's fury again right now and I'm absolutely loving it. That being said, I have nothing to compare it to except for the original legacy of goku which was pretty trash. I'll have to try the second game and see how different it is.

[@iambetops]

Buu's Fury and Legacy 2 are the best on DBZ games

[@Caspicum]

They're p good, I'm more of an Attack of the Saiyans and Tenkaichi 3 guy, but the Legacy series is pretty sick.

[@PepsiMan666]

You're right on the money about Boo saga not having enough breathing room for an action RPG. The events during that arc are supposed to happen over a single day if you can believe it.

[@Caspicum]

That is mental. I thought the tournament itself would be an all-day thing. How long do days in Dragon Ball last?

[@PepsiMan666]

@@Caspicum From tournament to end of the boo fight is all supposed to be one day.

[@McBeans69]

@@PepsiMan666 Nah, a day definitely passes, it just doesn’t make sense at all because for some reason DBZ never had any fights during the night, the closest we’ve ever seen to that was when it was just insanely cloudy Elder Kai’s ritual to unlock Gohan’s potential alone took a whole day

[@Alrokako]

At least you're not getting one hit killed like the first one this game was great

[@Caspicum]

For sure, Buu's Fury is still way better than the first one.

[@Flipitmixit]

Those gotdamn leveldoors

[@eyecontrol4900]

the lv85 gohan door was the worst by far, since theres no warning of it. Log2 had a more balanced level up system

[@deejay3297]

ah sequelitis, that takes me back to the summer of 2012.. the last time casp released a video

[@Caspicum]

It was the worst of times.

[@JayGhoulz]

Thank you for articulating all of the issues I forgot I had with this game when I played it as a kid

[@Kuikkamies]

Sick burn m8

[@Caspicum]

*never forget*

[@Heisenburg6905]

I get what you're saying but in my opinion it's still a masterpiece

[@IzraelGraves]

I don't think I disagree with a take more than this one on the entirety of the Internet. 1. The "grinding" you complain about in the beginning of the games takes *literally* just a few minutes. 2. You're GIVEN exp equipment and enemies drop it for grinding later on; a ten minute trip to the circus grinds you twenty levels. 3. What do you mean Goku died just at the end of LoG2? You spend the ENTIRE GAME without playing as Goku, even when he IS alive, and then when he dies at the end, you get a whole Hercule as a replacement.

[@Caspicum]

Well lucky for you, being wrong isn't illegal... Yet. 1. The grinding shouldn't exist at all, there's no valid reason as to why any of the story is gated behind levels. It's unnecessary padding to add time to an already short game. (I also complain about the grinding they make you do throughout the entire game, particularly to 140 before the final boss.) 2. The fact that they make you grind, and then offer you ways to shorten it shows how little care and effort was put in. If it was such a non-issue, there wouldn't be ways to speed it up from the outset. Nobody would want to speed it up because its inclusion is so integral to the game. 3. Goku died at the end of LoG2, as I said. I am correct. My point was that once you got a character, they weren't dying and reviving sporadically. Sometimes they weren't available, sure, but the story lent itself better to an RPG format. Goku is the strongest character, so it makes sense that he'd be the final unlock, and once you get him, you've got him. In Buu's Fury, if you get a character, you never know how long you'll have them for and in what circumstance which I don't think lends itself well to an RPG progression system, no less one where you've gotta grind. LoG2 was also a longer game, and a bit more lenient with who you could control at any given time, taking a few more liberties from the story. idk if you watched the rest of the video, but I'd be interested to hear your justification for the worse combat system, the gates that respawn and lock you out of areas for no real reason, stopping the player every few hits to tell them they've leveled and all the other garbage that Buu's Fury is filled with.

[@NightLeopard000Z]

He’s back

[@Kuikkamies]

He never went anywhere. He just didn't want to record, we had to keep kicking his ass back to the studio.

[@Caspicum]

I've always been here, you just didn't notice :^)

[@GreyCartridge]

New Casp is exactly what I needed during this pandemic

[@Caspicum]

I hope it distracted you from the harsh realities of life for a couple minutes.

[@GreyCartridge]

Casp O'Saurus going back and rewatching older vids of yours has become a daily occurrence at work.

[@Caspicum]

@@GreyCartridge You're far too kind, and I'm sorry about the spotty quality of... Most my shit.

[@hallowed4570]

Such a gorgeous intro lmao

[@Caspicum]

tytyty It was a last minute addition but probably the best part of the video.

[@dragon666777]

i haven't even watched the video but i see a legendary super warriors thumbnail and i IMMEDIATELY click definitely underrated game, i think KZbin has come through for me on the recommended videos today and i'm going to subscribe

[@Caspicum]

Oh, you~ My Legendary Super Warriors video sucks, but it's such a good card game.

[@TheFantasyChronicler]

All I remember from this game besides getting annoyed at the character doors was that glitch to get a bunch a senzu beans by eating the one meant for Videl.

[@Caspicum]

Honestly, that was the best part of the game. Checking your inventory and seeing 255 senzu beans. get fucked korin i don't need you anymore

[@acesworld320]

This was the best one lmao.

[@Caspicum]

no way man Legacy of Goku 2 is the shit

[@acesworld320]

@@Caspicum nahhh

[@mathuasher9184]

I don't perceive these nitpicks as such big issues but good video!

[@Caspicum]

I don't know if they're nitpicks as much as huge, underlying issues that directly impact how you play the game from beginning to end, but regardless, if you still enjoy it despite all that, more power to you!

[@DoctorMario606]

You can tell they didn't put their all in this game since they didn't even add the charge attacks! I mean I still love this game but LOG2 is much better in every way, and its much harder.

[@Caspicum]

Still mad about the charge attack. It's been nearly 20 years, and I'm still furious.

[@TheVivi13]

I recently replayed these (like a few months ago) and I still enjoyed this more than LOG2. Both are great but I enjoyed this one more.. for some reason.

[@Caspicum]

It is incredibly satisfying to speed around maps and one-shot everything. Like, as poorly designed and broken as it is, it's super fun. Makes my chimp brain happy. In terms of quality build though, and just the comfy progression (outside of that dinosaur, god i hate the dinosaur holy shit) Legacy of Goku 2 does it for me.

[@TheVivi13]

@@Caspicum Oh yeah I played the two games sorta differently as in I didn't really grind much in either, didn't spend my level points in BF, and didn't use the capsules in LOG2. Makes them both feel a bit more challenging.

[@Caspicum]

@@TheVivi13 For sure. My first runthrough of LoG2 was done with minimal enemy interaction and no capsules so I'd get a better feel for the bare-minimum difficulty curve. I'd imagine grinding in Buu's Fury without stats would be a bit more of a chore, but the boss fights might be better. With the lack of enemy bounce, and the ability to mash them against the wall infinitely, it's just a longer fight.

[@TheVivi13]

@@Caspicum Yeah the boss fights did end up better. Some actually felt challenging. I don't recall grinding being much of a chore, but I didn't grind too much and I'm sorta used to playing games at a slower pace anyways. It may just be personal opinion at that point.

[@justken.349]

My problem with Buus fury was that it was just to easy for how much grinding we had to do Enemies don’t bounce off walls and since we have full controls over our stat points we can just put everything into strength and one shot bosses with no effort or trap them against a wall and kill em that way. It was just wayy too easy

[@Caspicum]

i replied to this and youtube stole it :( I think i said something like "the real challenge is Buu's Fury with no stat allocation". Let's goooooooooooooooooooo.

[@gabriellister134]

YOU ARE THE EMBOdiMENT OF TRIPPIN THIS GAME IS LEGENDARY BRO

[@gabriellister134]

i had my gohan level 80 by martial arts tourney, trunks too

[@hugoleesong]

I rate you for putting the Ginyu Tokusentai song in this video

[@Caspicum]

I'm glad someone found that. It was all worth it.

[@Hengoed]

As a kid these were some if my favorite games and i remember i always waited for a GT game in this format. Sadly it never came. But always loved these Legend of Goku/Legacy games.

[@Caspicum]

honestly, we could've done worse than GT Transformation though, that's a totally passable belt scroller.

[@Chaud31423]

Trunks: We can't do this without Goku! Vegeta: Why? It's a goddamn door!

[@azurestrike6551]

I remember as a kid it was so rare to find a dbz game so when this came out it was one of the greatest things ever

[@Caspicum]

Yeah pre-PS2 was a nightmare for finding a DBZ game, and if you found one, it was usually crap. That's not a problem anymore though, they crank them out.

[@JakubKowalski93]

You didn't mention broken enemy scanning system and Gokuu Hat and rare items.

[@Caspicum]

Gokuu hat is unnoteworthy. Getting 4 stats instead of 3 but only after level 100 allows you to cap everything at 200, but for what purpose? I didn't go in on the equipment system as much as I'd liked, but that bit at the end where I said I was sick of talking about it was legit hey. As for the scanning system, I didn't know it was broken! I only used it a few times in both 2 and Buu's Fury. In what ways was it broken?

[@JakubKowalski93]

@@Caspicum In order to understand how broken it is one must try to get every enemy scanned : D It was tedious in LoG II but in Buu's Fury it is legit fucked up. There is a forum thread about it at Retro Achievements.

[@crazycano18]

Who else found out about the senzu bean glitch on accident lol?

[@Caspicum]

Yeah, you eat that bean as a joke, and suddenly you've got 255 of them. What a fantastic glitch.

[@TreyTruth619]

Buus fury was fun as hell until you found out you can increase your stats smh that made it way to easy

[@kvnhernandez8]

Bruh I went through the whole game without stats point by accident. Back when I was little. Its was hard.

[@AgentSmith21]

I loved the log games but somehow I didn't even know buus fury came out until 2014 or so. Played it on my phone via emulator while working for geicos call center

[@Mojavekight17]

Maybe be so but nostalgia clouds this game with love for me 😍

[@Caspicum]

That's fair. Even with the grind, it's still pretty comfy.

[@Tower-kn1dr]

anyone has link to picture at 10:44?

[@Caspicum]

nooooooooooooooooo don't do it, coomer bro!!!

[@320Death]

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[@Caspicum]

Oh damn, KZbin didn't alert me to this! I appreciate that so much, my friend. I've said before that even if KZbin goes to absolute shit, I still want to talk about video games, so I won't stop in the forseeable future. Things may get slow though.

[@KarmaHauntsYou]

I enjoyed BF less than LoG2 but I still had a great time with it. I felt like more could have been done for the post game. I was floored when I found out you could unlock Hercule (Mr. Satan) in LoG2 despite his uselessness.

[@mikeJRthe2nd]

I always appreciated how Legacy of Goku 2 tried to come up with reasonable enemies to the main cast. Goku getting jumped by wolves in Legacy of Goku and losing felts dirty. Like... how? However, the black water mist, as shit as that arc was, is a reasonable way that the cast could get hurt by infected animals. Same with Gero's robots since he was able to create androids that killed the cast in the future. Now would they really do damage if we actually compared feats? No, but it suspends the belief just enough that you can believe it and not feel confused.

[@Caspicum]

That's a great point. It seems like it gave them more creative liberties outside of snake, wolf, and dinosaur too. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[@OtherL]

Idk y but that death scene in legacy 1 had me dying lol

[@sammygorilla8688]

There is a scrapped skill in the game's file that transforms Gohan into great saiyaman.

[@Caspicum]

That would've been nice too.

[@sammygorilla8688]

Casp O'Saurus There is a cheat code out there in a bunch of places for it. If you use it with any gohan besides school gohan the transformation animation never happens. When you use the watch in saiyaman form you become school gohan.

[@aurafox1]

I think the idea behind the level gates was to emphasize DragonBall's theme of always training to get stronger moreso than making sure you're at an adequate level to handle whatever challenges were ahead of you. But, it's still a terrible idea, especially with the absurd levels some of these gates have. I remember playing this game as a kid and having my jaw drop at the ridiculous level requirements the game demanded of you in some places. I spent a lot of time running back and forth with the 100-ton equipment punching robots and stuff.

[@Caspicum]

I'm still down for the idea of endlessly trying to improve through training. The Buu Saga was the worst one to attempt that in though. They just yell and get magically stronger, not even like the Cell Saga where they have to disappear before they magically get stronger, or the Namek Saga where they get touched by an old man... oh no. I'm playing through the OG NES DBZ RPGs which might become a video idk yet, but they've got infinitely more grinding than buu's fury and still manage to be interesting. they're not good, but they are interesting :^)

[@GabrielShakkori]

This is one of like 5 gba games I had and I used to dual my friend in karate class when I was like 12 and it was amazing. That link cable got some use

[@codygreene8783]

What would have been better. Legacy of Goku remake on Virtual boy or Kakarot on GameCube?

[@Caspicum]

Depends if you want to cripple your eyes on the harsh crimson pallette, or your hands on the tiny baby controller.

[@cracklasco]

I noticed from the clips, the Japanese version of Legacy of Goku 2 has better character icons lol…. Why’s they change them for the English version?

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

So the problem is it fluffed itself out too much with repetitiveness.

[@Caspicum]

Not necessarily, because it's pretty short, and has a similar overall structure to Legacy of Goku 2. It's more how everything plays out in a stilted way with the level doors and hot-swapping between places at break-neck speed. The combat being worse didn't help.

[@pages4573]

This game is...hmm, it's okay. Nothing great, but I feel they could have pushed it a bit more. There are a lot of improvements from the first two games, but not enough.

[@Caspicum]

Yeah, that UI is some clean shit but I'll take my comfy, sloppy Legacy of Goku 2 any day.

[@nekonekopanicnekonekopanic7335]

All that left are the ds dragonball games

[@Caspicum]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo just touch my controls up fam

[@luisfilipe2747]

My main problem with Buu fury's is that it was too easy, i remember that when I first started to play i purposely stoped using level up points because I was just cutting everything in the way like a Lawn mower, and that was right after playing Legacy of Goku II, where I got my ass handled more times then I can remember lol

[@Caspicum]

I tried a no stat run recently and it the combat still sucks, you just lock enemies into corners and mash A. It's kinda sad tbh

[@luisfilipe2747]

@@Caspicum yeah, there's that too, I think they purposely left it like that to make things easier, which kinda sucks, I'm not too found of games that you have to really force yourself to have some challenge cuz the game itself is not designed to offer one. Btw i think you forgot to mention a funny glitch that allows you to go on the overworld in super Saiyan and fusioned, because you normally go to normal state when going to the overworld, but if you fly through the window in the kami lookout room you keep whatever form you're in

[@cameolynn32]

buus fury editor makes the game super fun. you start at level 200 with all characters, making the game feel like it should. one hit ko's for all lesser enemies. i beat the game in about 3 hours now. best part is it edits the rom and not the save, so when you start a new game youre maxed out.

[@captain5977]

I agree with everything you said, and I want to add one more little detail: Almost EVERY chest that isn't accessible the first time you enter is probably an exhibit, and if you don't care for Gogeta, it can discourage players from revisiting Area that don't have anymore content, Why go back to Thieves Den after getting the Dragon Ball? What? For that 1 chest on top of the house that Goku can get? After a quadrillion of these, do you even care what's inside? The answer n o, oh the Lighthouse? How many times have you swear after learning the glutton inside want you to go to ANOTHER area (Because the Thieves Den Shop is Trash) to get a single item, then fight through all the stages before the lighthouse only to get sent to go get this man the secret content of Area 51, like after the 3rd time who the hell even cares anymore, unless your in love with Gogeta, most of my friends just stop after the 3 time.

[@Caspicum]

Absolutely. I hate when they hide shit I don't need in areas that are a pain to revisit. They kinda do that in Attack of the Saiyans, but you're always hungry for AP so it's not a huge issue.

[@captain5977]

@@Caspicum The fact that most (If not all) Require Goku too when I first play this as a kid I got Goku to level 200 so if I do meet a chest that require Goku, I would be set and never have to worry.

[@fuenig1048]

I played the game in my boy my save type is flash128k i saved the game in the save circle and reseted the game and it did not save is just says new game what a dissapointment luckily i have autosave on

[@jacobee._]

If you eat the senzu beans before getting back to Vidal you end up with 298 or something, great for a speed run. Loved this game and still do.

[@mario-pan]

Your points are really valid, my only points. The lv70 Goku door , the logic my little me had was Goku is lower than Vegeta, lets grind. The level of Gohan to the 140 is the fact ultimate gohan at a minimun is level 110 and farmin that 30 levels with equiptment is decent, but it can be higher. The "post game" exist, it's bad, really bad been the new doors there been fusion doors. Also I'm surprise you didn't mention that if you beat Dabura been a super saiyan FOREVER you have the yellow eneregy bar, but only a visual error

[@Pedzpaints]

How are peoples playing this game today? I really want to revisit it.

[@eyecontrol4900]

visualboyadvance gameboy emulator

[@Ferdam]

Sounds like a good opportunity for that guy that is remaking Legacy of Goku 1 for PC and also remake this one with proper fighting mechanics, better RPG elements etc

[@Ndo.athletics29]

i really loved it

[@societygoku6376]

This one's amazing, the so called flaws are incredibly easy to ignore unless you're pretentious

[@Caspicum]

lol no

[@Icemaire]

brb casp gotta do my home work

[@Icemaire]

im back casp, nice cock

[@Caspicum]

@@Icemaire Thanks, man. I specifically shoot it from underneath so it looks more impressive.

[@cracklasco]

2:59, in the English version Frieza says Goku is a loser and isn’t coming back, then Gohan screaming “NO NOO NOOOO!!!!” What’s that say in Japanese?!

[@Caspicum]

from what I can tell ( my japanese is poopoo) it says something like "That can't be. My father would not lose to you." or something close to that.

[@AC-mx6yn]

They struck gold with the 2nd one and it seems like for buu’s fury they just kinda copy and pasted it with ever so minor lazy changes. I appreciated getting to equip items/accessories, but the grind in this one was over the top. Also unsure wtf they did to the world map but it was more confusing and difficult to navigate. But this game also just wasn’t that challenging. I loved it but it just seemed like a lazy follow up

[@Caspicum]

Yeah it's still a decent game, especially for the GBA, but 2 had such a better flow and pacing to it. It felt like an engaging, sometimes challenge experience instead of a game where you get big stats and win.

[@bankshot4203]

These are when “Pickle” fight cell lmao no way i cant take this serious no more

[@captain5977]

Also THE FACT THAT IF YOU USE SUPER SAIYAN GOHAN BEFORE HE "DIES" HE GETS A GOLDEN BAR THAT COVERS UP THE GREEN BAR THAT WILL NEVER GO AWAY I HATE THAT GOD I HATE THAT SO MUCH.

[@overpowereddemonslaya3543]

I love this game I always equipped the goku hat at level 100 and give points to the first stat until I reach the current limit then continue to put as many points as possible until I have all stats at max 200 in all so fun

[@CONMAN-gx1qr]

First time I played this as a kid I didn't realize you could level up your stats. Took me weeks to beat this game. Especially the part to get gohan into Babidis Ship. You want a challenge? Don't increase stats, just use equip items

[@Caspicum]

I recently did a run of Legacy 2 where I didn't use Gohan at all, and beat Cell at level 3 or some crap, so I'd be down for a no stat run of Buu's Fury. Might make the game a bit more enjoyable!

[@CONMAN-gx1qr]

Saaaaaaaame!!

[@CONMAN-gx1qr]

I also beat the game without stat points because I didn't know any better! I remember grinding to level up so I could wear the "power suit."

[@darksoul1004]

Honestly the Best way to play the game is to Replay it and know who you need before you need them, then use them for that section! Also for the Dragon Balls, Grind on the Area with a Dragonball that doesn't have a Gate until you reach a the Required Level to be able to get Past the Gates in the Rest of the Areas as it has Powerful Enemies that will give plenty EXP. But Don't fight the Boss until your done Grinding!