DBZ vs Abridged: Which Series Did It Better? (Scene Comparison)

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

Hope everyone had an amazing Thanksgiving! A lot of you asked for a DBZ Abridged vs. DBZ scene comparison, so here it is! I trimmed some scenes to keep the video shorter and avoid copyright issues, which also caused a bit of a delay. Also, the 'friend' I mention in the video is actually my thumbnail editor-just wanted to clarify that. Let me know which version you prefer in the comments!

[@ginganban]

wow, you must be funny at the party's

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

@@ginganban what are you talking about 😭

[@AguannteGoku]

​​​@@KeyReviewsOfficial Because somehow you were dumb enough to compare a Drama to a Parody and say the parody is worse because it's funny and not dramatic

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

Both. I liked both. You tried to make sense, but I like the humor of dbza for each moment and the seriousness of each from the DBZ Kai.

[@bigbobam8857]

the i am speech is so much better in just z. i just couldn't connect with kai's

[@whtevercomesfrst]

Bro knocking off points of a comedic parody for having comedic parody.

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

I liked both versions.

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

Very true. I still liked both. DB, DBZ, DBZA, and DB GT, these are all better than super and I have not seen Daima nor do I want to.

[@luismarote6121]

​@@TheOriginalShadowWolfyou should watch daima, its great

[@odinson2645]

@@TheOriginalShadowWolfsuper is shit but Daima is actually good, more like the original

[@assasin1396]

Let me save you all time. He prefers Kai while his friend prefers abridged.

[@ggjb1892]

5 minutes in and i could’ve guessed that

[@TheIrishRushin]

What a waste of collective Internet video storage.

[@Flipitmixit]

Shocker

[@dillpickkle]

I mean fair enough, did you click on this video expecting to have a ground shattering comparison or were you like me and expected we will be seeing whomever this is opinion of the show.

[@MrLachapell]

1 hours to just say "Z/Kai more serious" , "abridge more fun"

[@papabean9670]

the abridged version made me become a professional cell glazer tbh and im not mad. he's written so perfectly, the cockiness that would come with someone being "perfect" is quite literally perfect.

[@ALI_872K]

Imagine how they would have written Vegito

[@ALI_872K]

i know they give a small snippet of him because they did make a short version of the buu arc but imagine if they made it the same way they did the other arcs

[@notallowed337]

Perfect Cell in Abridged might be the greatest character ever created. Goku glazing over Perfect Cell might be top 10 ever. 😂😂😂😂

[@AllTheGoodHandlesWereTaken9000]

Written perfectly?

[@LaughDonk]

I love his rivalry with tien

[@vibing-vicinity9989]

I feel like he forgets one of the biggest changes that DBZA makes that I actually do think would’ve made a better change in Dragon Ball, Z, and that is the subconscious thoughts that get added to Piccolo after absorbing nail. This added a lot of depth to pick those character that I don’t feel like we would’ve seen in a character who is always alone.

[@judoaj738]

Perfect writing and comedic relief

[@WillUTeachMe]

Bro really compared a Drama to Satire and could only say *"I like drama"*

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

Well to each their own I suppose...

[@Bliss467]

Yeah, so what’s the problem. I think if you accept that much as a dbza fan, you’d be very pleasantly surprised to see him acknowledge dbza excelling at choice dramatic moments.

[@scarletbrotherhood7273]

@@Bliss467the problem is the exact example of comparing apples to oranges. If you like apples, and don’t like oranges, then why the fuck are you comparing them to begin with? Essentially, what’s the point?

[@VaporYTVideo]

If you're doing a "scene comparison", why would you skip important lead-ins to the major points? you skipped over the introduction of characters to go right to the finishing blow of the fight with Raditz, you skip over how each version handles the training in lead up to the saiyan invasion, etc. Also why bother going back and forth between Z and Kai instead of just picking one or doing a 3-version comparison? This is really clunky and lacks the gravity of how a comparison should function. There is no time to dive into detail on why each scene works in-context of that version's telling of the story as you just skip to major beats and give a short synopsis of the two before giving your reason for which one is "better". Why? Why does "this scene being this tone" better? Is it because it fits the arc of the story? is it because it sets up a bigger threat? is it because it resolves a plotline? is it because it helps further a character's progression? There's a good effort done for editing and putting this video together, but it feels very half-baked. I think if you dedicated time to splitting up story arcs into their own videos you would have plenty of time to talk about why things matter in the greater narrative or for the flow of the story and say why that version works better or that version feels better to watch.

[@whtevercomesfrst]

@@VaporYTVideo I completely agree with this.

[@AtenSol12]

beautifully written comment

[@JReaLBiz86]

100% agreed. Some of the cuts seemed to play into a narrative. Made it obvious where he aligns pretty early in the video. Also I noticed DBZA being trimmed more, and at more pivotal moments, than the original clips. I enjoyed this comparison for what it's worth, mainly seeing the Abridged clips next to their original counterparts, but in my opinion there was an obvious bias in the making of this video. I don't think these two masterpieces were given a fair comparison.

[@collinfoster4502]

This is the most fair criticism of this video i feel. If your going to do this, "my friend said," thing, you should be arguing your points in the video, because this felt vapid. It seemed like his friends opinion was more neutral and interesting tbh. When your comparing two totally different genres you have to say how good is the thing. Is the comedy better than the drama or visa versa. I found myself more frustrated than normal with this one. It's was rare to see him side with abridged in situations they obviously improved on the source.

[@Raithial]

I think the biggest irony is that I suspect that Toriyama himself would've liked Abridged, because he was always into slapstick comedy, which Abridged did perfectly.

[@Zombieshark420x]

He 100% would have loved every moment of it... Well, once you get past the Raditz arc anyway. He would have loved the fact that they kept the actual personalities of the characters while still making it humorous more than anything. That was his style of humor.

[@HeheSloth]

I always felt that for season 2 of Abridged (namek arc) and onward, they really stepped up there game. It was a treat to watch them grow as writers over the years

[@justbethinking]

you could really see the mindset switch from “let’s just fuck around and have fun” to “people are actually enjoying what we’re making, we _have_ to make it good now”

[@notallowed337]

They definitely stepped up from really good to all time great😂

[@ultima99xib]

They had money by the.

[@IGSA101]

The cutoff point where abridged became more than just a comedy series for me, is the introduction of the Ginyus from there on the comedy and drama is blended significantly better as before it was usually serious scene with a gag at the end, after that they start really using jokes to inform characterization and progress the plot, while also maintaining the drama appropriately.

[@notallowed337]

@IGSA101 yeah. The way the dialogue flowed before and after their introduction is noticeable

[@Darc_Saber]

At 23:28 you said DBZA used a different song but in actuality it's the exact same song, look it up. The only difference is DBZA actually used the original Japanese lyrics to the song while Kai removed all lyrics and added in "Ginyu Force rules" instead of "Tokusentai". If anything, I find the DBZA version to be more faithful than the Kai dub

[@classicsagat]

DBZA is quite accurate compared to the official Z Kai release except when the parody kicks in and even then, considering Dragon Ball started out as a gag series, it fits.

[@Perry2186]

You're docking abridged points because it's not being serious, the whole point of abridged parody, it's to be funny, that's like comparing a Raptor to a Corvette and docking the Raptor cuz it's lap time was slower on the road course because it's built for off road

[@AvidCS]

That sort of negates the fact that DBZA on multiple occasions wants to be taken seriously

[@jace_519]

not really, these arent 2 seperate things, 1 is a spinoff of the original, and just because a scene is supposed to be silly, does not make it clear from criticism

[@AtenSol12]

the scenes arent clear from criticism, but critiquing something that is supposed to be funny in the moment whereas a different versio. played it straight is not an apt comparison. thats comparing the thing as if the comedic one was meant to be serious and OP is correct, you wouldnt compare these things in this way. not usually. for example. comparing goku's speech during the cell arc is an apt comparison. while one has comedy in it, both scenes are actually meant to be taken as a more serious and dramatic moment in context. comparing yamchas saibaman deatb was not an apt comparison. "who did this dramatic moment better? the tesm that decided to play it as if its drama or the team that decided its not a dramatic moment to focus on, so they played it for comedy." in which most ppl thats looking at that is going to be influenced by their own bias bec one is just dramatic and the other is just comedic. so where the video plays a comedic moment against a dramatic moment and then says, "well, drama moment better bec more dramatic." yea. duh.

[@kookeekwisp]

Something i really wanna bring attention to is that an EXTREMELY important pretext to the Abridged "I am" speech is all the times that Vegeta has repeated a very serious version of the Saiyan legend. If Goku were to repeat that again for the hundredth time, it would be an absolute drag on the episode, so this break of Goku spilling all his nonsense in this one epic moment breaks the tradition, and makes you interested to hear what the next "I am" is going to be, which in turn IMPROVES the scene dramatically for me

[@fisaldev3102]

Agreed. And Goku's speech is still as epic. And unrelated, but the delivery of "I am the terror that flaps in the night!" is perfect, and along with the OST ramping up in that moment, it makes it epic, even if it is a Darkwing Duck reference

[@russianbear6517]

Who would’ve thought people would like the version that is a comedy and had 30 year’s hindsight

[@endtell]

Exactly this bum just made a video to make a video most pointless hours of his life spen editing this and posting it 🤏

[@ayimzay]

i love dbza but oh my god i will NEVER forgive tfs for the generational damage they’ve caused the entire db fanbase😭😭

[@kgblackout1]

i feel like comparing and contrasting these two is not right

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

Lol, a lot of people asked for it so I just decided to do it

[@takamiya2194]

Abridged entire purpose is to be humorous, so taking off points from it because it lacks the same intensity or sentimental value as the original kinda didn't make sense to me too.

[@2daystillsummer]

definitely should've compared scenes that were taken seriously in dbza 😅 edit: to people who think you can compare whatever to whatever, you are correct. you can compare them as entertainment options. However in that competition, people aim for the same goal, allowing for critique on their ability to do so, which would be interesting to hear. When you compare things that aren't trying to do the same thing, you are basing it solely on what you already decided they were competing for, and that isn't interesting. Literally look at the scores in the video, they ended up nearly exactly flip flopped because one liked the original/kai runs more, and one liked abridged more. It makes the video uninteresting. (No, I didn't end up watching it in full, I skipped around to comparable scenes because I noticed the pattern after a few minutes. But go look at his kai vs original video and you'll understand the difference.)

[@shadowfan115]

​@@KeyReviewsOfficialyour bias is showing

[@VinnieGognittii]

@@takamiya2194 But then it becomes emotional when Krillin dies and Goku turns into a Super Saiyan, when 16 dies they make the Gohan scream emotional, when Future Trunks finds Future Gohan dead it's emotional, when Goku says goodbye to Gohan it's emotional, Goku's training with Gohan on the Hyperbolic Time Chamber is wholesome, therefore emotional. So in my opinion it's okay to compare them.

[@JohnnyStormRules1961]

I feel like it’s a bit silly for knocking off a comedic parody for being comedic but at the same time I think it’s silly people trying to act like the comedic parody is better than the manga and Kai.

[@JohnnyStormRules1961]

Like comparisons like this only work against old Z Dubs

[@JReaLBiz86]

I don't see why that's silly. The point of a parody is to take an original idea and add a comedic twist. Feeling like that execution of the story was done better than the original isn't so crazy. We know these characters from the original, and some of us are more entertained by the take this other team of writers took on their presentation.

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

I like both is there a problem with that?

[@tylersteed7824]

I think the biggest value of this is how it shows them side by side in a compilation of great moments, not so much the review of them. It discounts the fact that it's supposed to be more comedic in the case of abridged. Still a fun video regardless.

[@themedic7933]

Take a shot every time this guy mentions tension

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

😂

[@judoaj738]

Him after 50th shots: Uh, is he still there He took more shots then quagmire

[@JReaLBiz86]

It... is a lot lol

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

Ok I'll take a shot of water and dieof kidney failure or water poisoning. Lol

[@RedHood410]

No, sir! I would be drunk about 10 minutes in! 😂😂

[@syferz]

1:14:40 Yeah, in context, DBZA's version of Goku's sacrifice is far better, Goku gives Cell a Senzu bean, he pushed to have Gohan unlock his potential, not thinking about if Gohan even wanted that. In DBZ/Kai, he just goes and says bye to everyone, he doesn't really own up to his mistakes with regards to Cell and with Gohan. DBZA corrects this glaring issue IMO, it's really lacking in DBZ/Kai because of Goku's lack of ownership. DBZA here always gets me to tear up, for a parody/comedy series, that is an amazing accomplishment, meanwhile anime has Goku saving the day because Gohan screwed up.

[@LeeSchmitz-h4x]

Uh.. it was Gohan’s screwup.

[@ThederpyLOL]

@@LeeSchmitz-h4xDon’t worry! It’s everyone’s B

[@AtenSol12]

​@@LeeSchmitz-h4x huh? how?

[@LeeSchmitz-h4x]

@ Gohan got cocky, and didn’t finish Cell off like Goku told him to.

[@ThederpyLOL]

@@LeeSchmitz-h4x goku gave cell the senzu AND trusted the fate of the world on an 11 YEAR OLD

[@nabri-nfg3262]

Guys im starting to think he doesn’t actually have a friend

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

Pinned comment

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

Well online friends are just that...imaginary...

[@LeeSchmitz-h4x]

“I’m totally sorry.. ..that you’re all still alive!” Is a much better way for Goku vs Vegeta’s first fight to end.

[@SonicKirbo]

The special remix TFS made exclusively for the Final Flash is amazing

[@TheRealNintendoKid]

I don't even know why you bothered to make this comparison at all considering abridged is a condensed version specifically designed to be funny and not remotely serious. And yet it's still more accurate to the original japanese a lot of the time.

[@shadowfan115]

Seriously it's a parody they're supposed to not be serious. He needs to stop and think. hmmmmm what does parody mean? But no he doesn't he just 1 to 1 compared the parody to the actual show

[@malachiatkinson7245]

Being a parody does not invalidate the artistic credit of DBZA. And what does it matter that it's being measured up against the original? Should fanfiction not be compared to its source material? Should parodies not? Y'all seem mad just to be mad

[@snintendog]

The fact the Parody is more loyal to Toriyamas work ALONE should wave red flags.

[@AtenSol12]

​@@malachiatkinson7245 you dont compare a boxer for their ability to wrestle because thats not typically within their scope. the video mostly does dramatic scene vs comedic scene and then says the dramatic one is better because its more dramatic and the comedic scene is more comedic. the "friend" mostly aligns, except that he prefers comedy so his reflections are mostly "comedic scene did better because funny." and im not saying thats the whole video or either of their views in totality, but dont compare things for which did it better if you arent going to measure it properly. a better "which version is better" would look at each scene and what the team or narrative was trying to do with that scene and if they did it well. did this dramatic scene make me feel more than the comedic scene make me laugh? which experience that the writers intended me to have did i like better? and then explore why those dramatic/comedic elements produced the effect that the writing team in question wanted and how well they achieved that. this video does not do that.

[@malachiatkinson7245]

@AtenSol12 I will fully admit, and maybe this makes me an asshole, or at least a fool, but I haven't actually watched this video yet. I'm absolutely willing to conceded that there are right and wrong ways to compare media. If this is bad media analysis, fair enough. I just felt like a lot of people in here were upset with the very idea of comparing the series, which is bizarre to me.

[@warllockmasterasd9142]

Ever since Nappa was introduced abridged was just simply peak. also Piccolo hesitant? Piccolo was planning to kill them both all along. and he never did give a signal in the none dubbed version. You seem to forget that Piccolo and Goku were arch nemesis at the time. Piccolo did not know about the other Sayings until later, and actually assumed until Raditz told him otherwise that the fight was over. Goku would be revived and they would fight again for the world.

[@enragedbard]

SS2 scene took pretty much direct inspiration from the Japanese version including a remake of the song in English. Huge homage, but also because it's newer the sound quality is great. The internal Monologue from DBZ made it a lot worse imo. Tbh it was clear he was in complete shock by the look on his face. No words needed.

[@justinperry13]

Here’s the plain truth. The original series will always be the greatest, because of how much it impacted us all. All in all…. Abridged did it better. They were able to keep the emotional moments that needed to be kept, while entertaining us FAR beyond what the original series did. Abridged was also able to fully explain the full story effectively in 60 episodes. Particularly the Android & Cell saga, the voice acting in Abridged was quite literally better than the original. Side note: Comparing an Abridged series that was purposely made to be a comedic version of a show with the original version of said show, only to penalize the Abridged version for being comedic is an extraordinarily flawed and biased experiment.

[@Afreakinchicken-rq9fr]

While i Don’t agree in The sense that i prefer dbz, i do also think that this is unfair cuz from a storytelling perspective the original series always is better than a parody that doesn’t take itself seriously a Lot of the time and removes multiple storybeats

[@dupersuper6516]

Yea, a parody is "better" than the original. C'mon now guy 🙃

[@Afreakinchicken-rq9fr]

@ i have an objection, OPINION

[@ayimzay]

“full story” and they didnt even try to touch buu

[@Afreakinchicken-rq9fr]

@they didn’t make it fully, But they did The buu bits

[@strider_hiryu850]

i slightly prefer the abridged version during the first beam struggle. the reason is because, if you watch The Worlds Strongest, they have him do a "Kaio Ken times Three and a half". so it creates this anticipation for when he actually unleashes the x4. it's great payoff

[@evilchild1851]

Wasn’t World’s Strongest (the abridged one) done years after?

[@strider_hiryu850]

@@evilchild1851 it was. but it evidently takes place chronologically before the Saiyan Invasion

[@evilchild1851]

@ Ngl the Z movies with the exception of Movies 9 & 13 always have some inconsistency with Z that make em impossible in the timeline, they’re more retellings of sagas or fights instead of having a plausible placement in a timeline (In my opinion, at least)

[@strider_hiryu850]

@@evilchild1851 my only point was that the Kaio Ken time 3.5 was intentional. to place it chronologically before the Saiyan invasion

[@evilchild1851]

@ I dunno, felt way more like a joke relating to the scene just being the Kamehameha vs Galick Gun but with Wheelo instead of Vegeta I don’t think TFS really intended to connect Abridged with the movies to that extent, else they’d reference the films in the main series more that just… DBZA episode 31 with Dead Zone (technically)

[@ggjb1892]

Breaking news: Abridged is a humorous twist of a action anime and isn’t as dramatic or serious as the real dragon ball z 😮😮😮

[@zephyfoxy]

It makes no sense to compare a series to it's parody, especially if you're just going to side with the main series almost every time simply for NOT being goofy, like what is the point of this?

[@ScapeVEVO]

Gotta come in here and say my piece: I think Lani's "Galick Gun, FIRE!" is my favorite delivery of that attack, period.

[@TheOriginalShadowWolf]

I have to agree as well, but I also like the Kai version of it just as much.

[@Drumicall]

Bro didn't credit GT in the intro...

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

Dang I forgot GT 😂

[@RV0999]

1:15:40 in that moment, it sounds like Goku is scolding Gohan, while in the other scene, the one in Abridged, Goku is encouraging him

[@mrpopo8298]

Goku: "take care of Gohan for me" Clearin: *immediately loses Gohan 😂😂😂

[@BlueDudeALT]

Man, Clearin really is my favorite character.

[@taguro4453]

Let him be clear

[@TheM3dicOfTF2]

Pecking order…

[@Spitfire-nm6ic]

​@@BlueDudeALTim a fan of Big Green

[@JoshSipes234]

Please do not take this the wrong way but when you popped up in the beginning my first thought was, Hey look it's, totally not mark abridged.

[@delix787]

I still prefer Vegeta’s voice actor in TeamFourStar than Chris. I’m proud to say that. The moment Vegeta is in the water after getting punched by trunks, realizing his blood on his hand and yells rage! I feel like the team four star voice actor nailed a lot of good moments like that.

[@BlitzWing-vk1zw]

I think even Sabat himself once said in the past that he would consider having Lanipator be his successor as Vegeta if anything were to happen to him. Gotta respect Chris, he is at least a bit more likeable than egotistical Schemmel.

[@LunaHvalerose]

This video gave me strange feelings, It felt one-sided. I suggest fixing the description, because "detailed scene comparison" was not shown. cuts of scenes were.

[@thomashost272]

25:33 It's the same song, it's just DBZK uses an English Version while Abridged uses the Japanese one, infamous for "Tokusentai! Tokusentai! TOKUSENTAI!" literally translating to "Special Squadron! Special Squadron! SPECIAL SQUADRON!" Which I personally enjoy more than the "Ginyu Force is Cool" used in the English Dub of Kai. 1:10:47 If Tamashi vs Tamashi was used behind the original dub, I'd give it the point just for the yell. Also I'd argue SSJ3 is slightly more iconic than Gohan's SSJ2, considering it's why the running joke of "screaming for half an hour to get stronger" primarily stems from, alongside the fusion reborn version. 1:14:40 Another thing in favor of Abridged that once brought up may even retroactively change which you prefer, but the goofy nature of Goku and how his goofiness shines through in every other serious scene in the series elevates this even further. Goku is his normal self in Z, only putting his desire to fight when he knows if he doesn't everyone dies, however in Abridged, this moment is a baseball bat to the gut because it comes out of freaking nowhere for Goku. Not so much that it feels out of place, but just enough to show he realizes his mistakes and finally for once in his life acts like an adult to save his son. It hits so much harder than in the original because of this and I'm pretty sure every time I was the 3 Parts of Episode 70 this scene always brings me to tears. 1:20:49 *In TFS Perfect Cell's Voice because funny* Wait a fucking second... Those numbers don't line up. How do you have 30 points total and the friend have 29?? WHAT THE HELL IS THE POINT?!?!

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

@thomashost272 yea, that's what I meant by it being different

[@thomashost272]

@@KeyReviewsOfficial Fair enough, I guess? Did you read the edits I made at certain specified points?

[@karlluigi1987]

you're comparing a serious dub, with a parody dub? this comparison doesn't even make any sense.

[@evangelism2]

I genuinely believe Android and beyond Abridged are legit better than the OG series.

[@clayghostfan]

Freeza Saga dbza >

[@TheIrishRushin]

Absolutely not.

[@gohanking12]

hell no

[@toasterowens8916]

​@@TheIrishRushin You for sure haven't even watched it. It's better for the fact that they have the benefit of hindsight

[@Auvisome]

@@toasterowens8916 no it's absolutely not.

[@RV0999]

53:56 you forget your friends point here

[@RedDevilVR]

About 15 minutes in and what I can see so far is that being a DBZ fan without seeing The Abridged version may leave you to attached to moments in the original series to really appreciate how good the Abridged version is. That being said I can understand your points narratively speaking. However I feel the entire analysis kind of throws out that this is an Abridged show and meant to be completely ridiculous. It feels like both are being judged by the same standard when they really shouldn't be. Yes they're the same Source material but the end result is very different. In a video like this you have to judge these scenes not on which series did them better necessarily but compare them based off of their own Merit for example Dragon Ball Z the original series is so serious that trying to take plot points and judge them from a bridge is kind of difficult. Abridged should really just be judged on whether it was done well and stayed faithful to the original story while keeping the story funny and honestly seeing if it aged well, which in my opinion both aged very well.

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

I'm judging the scenes on which one i liked better while giving you my reasons. For me the saiyan saga and some of the frieza saga aren't really that good to me but like I said in the video the cell saga is where the abridged series starts to get really good and that's where abridged got a lot of points from me

[@RedDevilVR]

@KeyReviewsOfficial that's fair still watched all the way through, thought it was a pretty good video

[@ConcernedAlien]

​@@KeyReviewsOfficial That's also the point where it essentially ceases to be an abridged series and becomes more-or-less an internal deconstruction of Dragon Ball, largely because of TFS having outgrown the typical abridged series style of humor (and why DBZA really couldn't have lasted much longer after that). The fact that so many people liked DBZA and its interpretation of DBZ and how it became the gold standard for abridged series is what allows people to feel comfortable comparing and contrasting it with the original series, but treating DBZA like it's another dub, even if it's a "better" and more socially conscious dub, is something KaiserNeko explicitly said that people shouldn't do, mainly as a reaction to The Mary Sue saying that people should watch DBZA instead of the original, something that betrays the whole point of "please support the official release." I think that, rather than try to decide whether the original or Abridged did a certain scene "better," you should do something similar to Totally Not Mark's video where he talks about what Abridged did better than the original but not whether one or the other did a certain scene better.

[@delix787]

What I noticed about team four star, I remember thinking they weren’t as funny when they got to the android arc in high school. But as I got older and rewatch the series. I noticed they were trying to somewhat make an official series by adding more awareness to the plot holes or being more accurate of what should’ve happened in the original series instead of joking all the time. It felt like they were trying to make improvements more, rather than be a funny parody show anymore. So when I realize that, I actually appreciated the abridged more! They took away jokes like muffin button away completely, and didn’t even bring them back for one episode after a certain point, they moved on past it. 🎉

[@SledgerEdits]

Totally not biased.

[@justinw7323]

"The fucks a Kami?" "It means God now bow!"

[@Slowtastic]

To be fair, the song that plays when the ginyu force arrives is the same in kai as it is in the abridged. TFS just used the Japanese language version

[@jamiebaker8017]

I love both series but abridged is king… it’s just so funny because it’s so far from the original story, it just cracks jokes at every opportunity 🤣

[@whathappenswhenimbored]

I honestly prefer most of the Abridged voices to the Original voices.

[@nabri-nfg3262]

This shit sounds like it was Written by and ai

[@Panchinator90]

Dude, why not title this "I have no sense of humor and think abridged is an insult"

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

I admitted several scenes were funny to me, and I actually like the abridged series, but to me, it's obviously not better. I mostly didn't want to make this video, but I had a lot of people asking for it, so I decided to do it as just a fun video. But also this video could just be used to see a side by side comparison for the dbz and abridged if you skip my commentary so 🤷‍♂️

[@the_dude23]

@@KeyReviewsOfficialI agree, abridged is for the humor, if you want everything else watch DBZ or Kai

[@the_dude23]

@@KeyReviewsOfficialbut perfect cell in abridged was perfect

[@JReaLBiz86]

A couple things... DBZA is, quite literally, a fan-based parody. Also, being "abridged", it's meant to be more concise than the original. So, comedy and shorter scenes are a given. This established, docking points for scenes being shorter seems... well, short-sighted. I don't think anything in Abridged feels rushed. In fact, I think some scenes in the original are a bit too drawn out. I agree that some scenes in the original hit harder because of the intensity, emotional impact, or gravity of the situation. However, for TFS to get the point of these scenes across, with a comic twist, in a shorter amount of time, while still managing to have quite a bit of intensity, emotional impact, and gravity, is an impressive feat. You also skipped parts of the DBZA scenes that I feel were necessary when showing the comparisons. I watch DBZA probably once a month, I know these scenes backwards and forwards. Some of the parts you left out sell the scene, giving better comic timing, or keeping the intensity of the scene despite the obvious parody. It makes your review seem more partial than I think you wanted it to seem. I understand having to trim scenes for copyright purposes, especially the original scenes, but the timing of some of those cuts felt... somewhat calculated. I don't think you really needed to keep count of which version you preferred. By the 3rd choice, it was obvious you prefer the original/Kai. My issue is, if someone hasn't seen the abridged version before, you're not giving them a full scope of what TFS did with these scenes. I think your explanation of the Abridged scenes was thorough enough but, again, the presentation felt biased towards making your point about the original being better, instead of giving a true comparison of the scenes side by side. Loving the original more than a parody makes perfect sense. Everyone who loves DBZA, loves DBZ. Both versions are masterpieces. In my opinion, Abridged does it better. They substitute the unadulterated angst of the original for jokes, but I feel more endeared to all the characters of the show thanks to the work of TeamFourStar.

[@cheezzyy69]

it's kinda hard to compare the roo, while the (kinda) tell the same story, all the characters are almost completely different

[@wutguycreations]

1:10:38 one thing I will say about this is while the scream may not be as powerful, I still think that actually serves the scene a bit better. Gohan isnt a warrior in this moment, hes devastated, grieving, and I think the abridged version really nails that home.

[@ChaosAttorney]

TFS shouldn't be compared because it's made for the sake of comedy, even when they get serious they're not trying to replace the original dub

[@nozomashii821]

i mostly prefer the original/Z but the recoome fight was better in the abridged, the wrestling style commentary was perfect.

[@nydcat]

"I am the terror that flaps in the night" is a Dark Wing Duck reference

[@addisonwong-sripatana]

YOURE EITHER PERFECT OR YOURE NOT ME

[@TrippSixx666]

bro wants to be Totally Not Mark so bad.

[@richborn6700]

Hooray yet another pretentious asshole who thinks they can see the series with more depth than everyone else

[@Xlivesforever]

in your final flash scene you of the original DBZ with falconers track you still had cell screaming "Oh Shit" instead of "Whats this" best version of that scene by far

[@Jamseth_Ingramious]

This video is pretty stupid imo. You're comparing Abridged to Kai in the video, but try to make it seem like you're comparing it to the original show in the title and description. This distinction is important but not clearly made. Of course Kai is going to be more serious and better done than Abridged. It is meant to be a genuine presentation of the series with suspense and emotion, while Abridged is meant to be a crude and comedic version that pokes fun at the series for cheap laughs. Kai is also a more modern and accurate interpretation of the manga- especially regarding the English dub- while the Abridged often parodies aspects specific to the original show and dub(s) that deviate from the manga and the more faithful adaptations. There is also the fact that Abridged was thrown together by a few people without much guidance, while DBZ(K) had actual studios working on it and a very good manga to use as reference. Abridged is not a replacement for DBZ or DBZ Kai, regardless of what die-hard fans will claim. Kai is simply a superior work and a more faithful adaptation. Discrediting Abridged for being what it's supposed to be instead of just another dub is in poor taste.

[@Eidings-Mc]

Nice video! It was so sweet, how you always included the thoughts of your friend :)

[@Kvailys88]

This white boy just loves his kai doesn't he? Although I'm visibly salty over the choices, his friend calmed the nerves with his superior taste.

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

😂 abridged is good but not better than z/kai

[@dharps3014]

@@KeyReviewsOfficialI think what would have made more sense was for you to pick Z OR Kai to compare DBZA against. There’s no real consistency to what equates to cherry picking between Z/Kai, especially when it comes to characters with different VAs between the two dubs. The inherent biases really diminish this video, especially not really touching on things that make DBZA such a beloved parody.

[@JReaLBiz86]

@@KeyReviewsOfficial Z/Kai has more impact than Abridged, but if you've seen the whole show, then watched all of Abridged, DBZA did it better. The pacing and comedy balance well with the more serious beats, and overall it's the more entertaining take on the story. Humble opinion.

[@TheM3dicOfTF2]

Ngl… a lot of this is DBZ Kai glazing…

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

How

[@scarletbrotherhood7273]

@@KeyReviewsOfficialan ounce of self reflection would answer that question for you. You’re comparing a comedic abridged to the original, and knocking abridged for… being comedic. Why did you even make the video? It certainly wasn’t to discuss what each did better because it’s just you saying Kai/Z is better because “tension” and “emotion”.

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

@scarletbrotherhood7273 I made the video because people wanted to see it due to the kai vs z videos. I didn't know how to really make this video due to one being a parody, so I just chose which scenes I liked more and in my opinion the abridged series doesn't get really good until the cell saga where it gave the abridged series a lot of points

[@WankhasFluxReal]

TFS made Goku what Toryama wanted Goku to be

[@muquietto3764]

Honestly, you’re comparing apples to oranges here, abridged underplays all pivotal moments because that’s what and abridged show will do.

[@omegafalconoriginal]

Abridged wins for me just for fact that android 19 voice is better and the added humor touch perfects scene. Normal kai version Android 19 voice sounds worse then cat claws on a chalkboard. Kai makes it to soap opera Abridged makes a adult swim enjoyable cartoon. Kai way to serious and frustrating Abridged is relaxing and enjoyable.

[@DanielMWJ]

4:00 Kai is ruined by him inexplicably regrowing the hole in his chest.

[@thebaker525]

The blast hole is already redrawn in previous scenes, not a continuity error.

[@jamiebaker8017]

If you’ve never seen abridged you have to watch it.. it’s fantastic

[@calvinnye1076]

You missed the moment when cell killed trunk and vegeta basically went ballistic on cell saying “my baby boy”

[@Bliss467]

Loved these takes. It’s all subjective, and I got a good sense of what you value, and, given that… can’t say anything but incredibly fair.

[@DonStevensEsq.]

Guys, does anyone happen to know what exact track plays at 55:20? Shazam didnt work bc of the voiceover

[@XenoPlayerP3]

“With additional comedy”is probably the best way to describe abridged.

[@snintendog]

Given Toriyamas original vision of a serious comedy.... sorry but TOEI butchered DBZ and DBZA Salvaged what they did.

[@XenoPlayerP3]

@ I’m not saying dbz doesn’t have comedy. I’m saying that some scenes like goku letting Frieza power up bc he was gonna give him pizza(with stuff crus) or when goku first death with the special beam canon had made the tone to be more lighter and with some comedy behind it unlike the original

[@Dayeeet]

@snintendog bro what. Dbz did an amazing job at making the emotional moments emotional while also giving actual depth and story to the characters portrayed. But dragon ball z abridged just absuletley butchered the characters and turned all the moments that would normally be serious to overly comedic.

[@snintendog]

@@Dayeeet man you really have nothing better to do but spam my comments.

[@Apexzo106]

AMAZING WORK CHAMPP!!

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

Thank you!!

[@evilchild1851]

Abridged definitely gives more Early Dragon Ball vibes with the comedic focus lol, albeit way more referencial to other media and in more of an “”””adult”””” tone Also, thank god you didn’t include the “too soon” joke on the second clip

[@eastwick83]

I've enjoyed these comparison videos. I'm also a big fan of the original DBZ, but felt some of the comparison choices were strange. Comparing the weight of the original storyline to a parody favored the original heavily. I also feel you missed the opportunity show where DBZA added a lot of character, dialog, and exposition where the original did not. They added to 16's backstory, and had a lot of epic one liners from Piccolo, the cyborgs, and cell. "What's a Kami? It mean god... Now bow" and "Does Gohan know you let him die?"

[@garlicblue6797]

Abridged brought a generation who got into DBZ, but Abridged, whether they do things better or not, is too self-aware to be taken seriously in my opinion. Even though i go back and watch Broly Abridged a lot. It’s too damn funny.😂 For me even though it’s chaotic, but i watched Ocean dub Saiyan-Namek and then OG Funimation all the way through. Old heads! Where y’all at!? Sidenote: I like the enthusiasm of your videos. Not enough people who cover this stuff has positive vibes. haha Keep it up brotha!🐉

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

I usually go back and watch the cell saga of abridged when I want to watch the series again, but the movies are good too. Also, thank you, man!!

[@themedic7933]

“What’s your power level? Mine’s pretty big”

[@shelbybayer200]

Correction: The Ginyu force introduction uses the exact same Song. It's just that the Abridged version is using the Original Japanese version of the Music. Literally titled "Toku Sentai; Ginyu Force"

[@Kal-l-of-OneShot]

"Turns it into a comedic beat" bro that's the point

[@sonic30655]

no buu bits?

[@Sesshomaru1]

Well to be fair you are using the kai version and not the original which dbza is based on.

[@wildrabbit2237]

"This comedy was funny, so we had to knock points off for that"

[@Michelangelo-ol4ih]

'Makakasapap....Makasapa'

[@AlternateSnake]

abridged is funny but in no way a proper version of dbz and mischaracterizes many key ppl like goku and whatnot. That said I looove abridged

[@TheIrishRushin]

In the end TFS is garbage.

[@themedic7933]

@@TheIrishRushinBait used to be believable. Like even your profile description is obvious bait like come on man!

[@TheIrishRushin]

@@themedic7933 Who reads profiles? Spending your whole day looking at profiles is something else.

[@fisaldev3102]

I kinda maybe watched Abridged before the original, in fact, I still haven't seen it

[@JReaLBiz86]

The thing is, Abridged isn't something you tell someone to watch if (somehow) they've never watched DBZ. And so, we already know who those characters are. Parody is literally a comic take on an IP. It's not meant to be a proper telling of the story. It's meant to be entertaining for those who want a new take on it.

[@thatguy4995]

I actually grew up watching abridged. I started watching it late season 1 and always loved the show. Most of my experience with normal dbz was from the games, so I'm very biased.

[@YeetoTheYeetafic]

I never would expect him to do the Dragon Ball Abridged opening

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

Lol I just wanted to include it in this video

[@dustedendgial-jj4yo]

Bro's friend humor is good

[@elijahimperial7437]

True

[@TheM3dicOfTF2]

The DBZ Kai glazing is crazy. Halfway through the whole video he had 15 to Kai and 2 to Abridged.

[@Magloyr]

For the perfect cell introduction, You have the music very loud

[@abelaklilu1070]

I wish you got my opinion on it, ima big fan of both, but I highly respect the content

[@kookeekwisp]

Setting aside the blatant cherry picking and unfair representation, cutting off parts of abridged, making the moment look way less funny or impactful. Two big examples from what i've seen is Krillin's "...YEAH! ...WOO!" at Yamcha's fail, and the *ENTIRE SECOND HALF OF POINT 11!!!* "-oh... i'm sorry, i'm usually far more composed. I'm just a little bit *absolutely livid."* Emotions aside, i ranked up to what i watched 1. Abridged 2. OG 3. OG 4. Abridged ...i can't help but notice you left out piccolo's death????? 5. Abridged 6. Abridged 7. Abridged 8. OG 9. Abridged 10. Abridged 11. Abridged I stopped watching because of editing, and cuz it took you 9 entire segments to give any ground to abridged, especially the Chiaotzu one. Of all the ones to be humble, at least give it this one, like you have the same seriousness and tone in Tien, and chiaotzu's part was executed with perfect timing.

[@itsprobablynotlogan]

i enjoyed this vid alot but just a suggestion, it seems a little unfair to put both dbz and dbz kai against dbza, as well as picking either a moment from z or kai against abridged because where one official version may fail the other version could have an edge against the one abridged version

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

That's fair. I did want to include the winners for some scenes from my dbz vs kai videos, so that's why I did it that way, but I can see what you're saying.

[@fisaldev3102]

Yeah, and also, some people consider Kai to be different enough to be separate from the normal dbz, and consider dbs to continue from Kai while the normal dbz is followed by GT, and that's why GT stopped being canon to some

[@JoshSipes234]

If I had to put it a way it would be this, Season 1 of abridged had funny jokes and stuff but it felt more like KZbin poops, just jokes not real feeling or writing just funny well written jokes, but then the namek arc and forward tfs nails it so good freaza feels real Evil while being funny, jokes in combat, almost gave it realism, then in season 3 tfs flies with story telling, jokes, emotion, this makes you really like these characters.

[@madelinelove5150]

I'm ngl I think abridged had the better encouragement The fact that Goku used what's actually happened to Gohan, or, what will happen, talking less about drawing from hidden power and instead telling Gohan to rely more on his anger and his emotions, which makes sense given that's the source of super saiyan, and the callback with "eat that horse" from when he talked to Vegeta was just the cherry on top

[@xenmosh]

A detail that I just noticed that was definitely not part of toriyama's plan when he started the first fight between Goku and Vegeta the place that Goku picks to fight Vegeta at is remarkably similar to how Planet Vegeta is depicted and makes me wonder if Vegeta had noticed that

[@barstokians365]

I have to say, the Abridged version gives the Super Saiyan transformation a greater sense of gravity. Goku, usually a dim-witted character, is depicted with a serious intensity during the scene, and that contrast really makes the moment.

[@JReaLBiz86]

There's a lot of context and (interestingly enough) character building that happens in Abridged that tells the story of these characters. The transformation scene you mentioned is one. Also the scene at the end of their fight, Goku (ever the fighting strategist, and still pissed about his friend being dead) drives home Frieza's defeat when he says "I'm done. I'm bored. You're boring me." The offense Frieza takes to this statement can't be understated and is done masterfully in DBZA. Funny enough, that character dynamic, which happens for a TON of interactions in Abridged, gets kinda glossed over in this comparison.

[@hctaz]

The biggest reason I dislike Kai's version of the Kaioken x20 scene is that whole heroic speech about Chichi, Gohan, and the future of Namek at the beginning. I think my favorite version of this scene by far is the manga. He's standing there getting his butt handed to him by Freeza while using the x10 Kaio-ken and wonders if his body could even handle a x20. He's just kinda like, "Well, if I don't then I die. If I do, I might die. And if I do and he's not lying about only using half of his power, we're all dead anyway," before launching the attack and it failing. I love how it's just this desperate, "Please let him be bluffing this time."

[@brony4869]

regarding the ginyu force intro... its LITERALLY the same song. in fact, the Abridged version uses the version from the actual japanese OST, while kai redubbed the vocals of the song. abridged just uses a shorter clip of the song

[@bradcalhoun8976]

He just doesn’t like abridged at all!

[@sambuujargalsaihan6101]

True

[@MakotoToriko]

Abridged is just plain out funny and og Z is more serious and has more set out story. So if you like comedy take abridged if you like serious anime then lean towards Z/kai

[@ThePickIeGod]

What is jeice’s voice in dbz kai

[@КапитанРотыПериус]

Goku on preview: -You are goddamn right!!!

[@pyriel6870]

Too lazy to go back and find where the mistake occurred but the final count is off by 1. Your tally adds to 30 where as your friends adds to 29. Also I kinda feel that "your friend" is actually your true opinion but you wanted to give the official release the win overall, so "your opinion" matched that idea. Although to be fair I could be wrong lol. Pretty good analysis either way though and I liked the thought put into each explanation. Good job. Later.

[@KeyReviewsOfficial]

@pyriel6870 The reason why I have one more point is bc I added the tien comparison after he gave me his side of the script. Also, I didn't necessarily want dbz to win, but I was just choosing which ones I preferred, and imo I don't think the abridged gets truly good until the cell saga where it gave it a lot more points