DCS F-16 Instrument Landing System Tutorial

[@anthonyd5189]

Controller here, the largest angle we can give a plane to intercept a localizer is 30 degrees.

[@TrickerDCS]

I stand corrected, we just always hear in training that it's from a 45, thanks for sharing!

[@TheMrRusti]

Also controller here, we are allowed to give up to 45 but are strongly encouraged to give no more than 30.

[@nball461]

Some places (uk based) let us self position.. that way we can intercept whatever damn angle we want! 😆👍🏼 ..I appreciate that’s not the same as controller guidelines though

[@TrickerDCS]

@@nball461 dudddeeee nate!!!!

[@nball461]

@@TrickerDCS Duudeeee! I’m still alive!! It’s been a while! Hope you’re keeping well buddy? Will have to fly with you sometime ;) I keep an eye on ya videos - moving on up in the world eh!

[@MattWagner]

Good video! Once small note, for a proper aerobrake, the AOA and NWS lights on either side of the HUD frame should be bisected by the horizon.

[@TrickerDCS]

Hey great tip Wags! Didn't know that and will use it from now on. 🚀

[@sedlo]

Good tip!

[@PappaBear_yt]

Tricker's voice and rain sounds = first class ASMR. 😎😉👍🏻 Great vid, man!

[@TrickerDCS]

Glad you like Papa Bear

[@swilks8547]

This.

[@captaindutt6407]

Nice brief. No questions. approach checklist.

[@aeroRCmodels]

nothing to add boss .. u want the seatbelt sign on?

[@peterblackburn5793]

I liked the pun usage in the outro, pointing people in the right direction.... nice.

[@leostramberg1667]

The guys at Tactical DCS recommended you to me. THEY rock and so do you! Great video. Thanks mate

[@TrickerDCS]

Oh awesome, thanks for joining me!

[@Moose88]

This would even be a good resource for actual instrument training! Nice video sir! 👍

[@theegg-viator4707]

Missing quite a bit for it to be close to actual training, but it is nice to see DCS being considered as a basic training tool. Also quite a few things said in the video are incorrect but the video was made with a non-aviator audience in mind, so okay.

[@taylorfranks9238]

Real Airbus pilot lands F-16 ILS!!! Love it.

[@TrickerDCS]

Boom

[@EvansRG78]

Thanks so much for posting! This is not only helping my IFR in DCS but also in IRL. Fellow west-coaster (Seattle area) as well as descendent of a WW2 Corsair fighter pilot.. of some note

[@TrickerDCS]

Hey cool! Theres better ils stuff out there for civilian stuff but not much dcs ifr stuff

[@Inan1ty]

The new clouds made everything so much interesting. Looking forward to more

[@thunderace4588]

Thank you for making this short ILS in the Viper lesson for us Tricker.

[@christophersbarounis8473]

that was the most perfect touchdown ever WOW

[@davenottingham3254]

Thanks so much for this. Some of the other videos are so complex I struggle to follow them with my basic knowledge. I've been practicing night time, rainy landings all afternoon and can't quite believe it as I never thought I'd get to enjoy night flying. I've had a little issue though on the last flight that has really confused me. Everything is set up properly. I'm using the same airbase as this video and enter everything properly. On final approach though, my distance was growing rather than closing in even though the glide scope and interceptor lines guided me in. When I landed it said I was over 17nM away. The glideslope line did seem to settle at the far end of the runway also. I was definitely on the correct runway for the heading so I'm not sure what's happened. The needles on the tacan/ILS instrument down at the bottom were lined up properly but the blue arrow pointed the opposite direction. The only thing I can think I did wrong was setting this all up before I took off. Could this cause an issue? I'd be ever so grateful if anyone know what I did wrong!!

[@sawmurai1520]

Sierra Hotel Dad!! Your knowledge is off da charts!!another great tutorial

[@TrickerDCS]

Wow, thanks! Miss you

[@cello64]

This was excellent - I appreciated the discussion of chart reading.

[@Adam-qk5tt]

Your tutorials are pure Diamonds

[@TrickerDCS]

I appreciate that very much!

[@mvaldman2001]

Tricker... Perhaps one of the best vids I've seen to date, but there is a small but important item you missed on your HUD Symbology: The little ball that was bouncing around your Flight Path Marker/Velocity Vector. That's the ILS Command Steering Cue. Very usefull thing while in deep IMC and bad weather...

[@TrickerDCS]

Hey thanks for the comment! I was actually going to cover this but sometimes the symbology didn't go with what needed to happen, as in I would be on the glideslope and localizer and it would drift away, so I didn't wanna give conflicting information; which is why I left that part out until it's further in development. I truly appreciate the comment and feedback!

[@mvaldman2001]

@@TrickerDCS Correct, that is why lateral command steering cues are ignored until established on the localizer, and vertical cues until intercepting the glide-slope. This gets very helpful in turbulence and cross-wind approaches; on cross-wind approaches, by the way, you also cage the HUD ladder until “runway in sight” using the Drift cutout switch as your FPM could drift out of the HUD visual area... but that’s just for another video one day! I thank you for responding; love your videos and appreciate the dedication and hard work making them as well as the detail and fines you put into them! Thank you!

[@TrickerDCS]

@@mvaldman2001 Well I learned a few things today, and that's why I love making the videos because I get to help others and others get to help me. Appreciate you breaking it down for me because I didn't know any of the above procedures and they make sense now that you told me about it. Again, appreciate the feedback and support!

[@AloisSchantl]

Thx for this excellent tutorial. You let the ILS approach look so easy :)

[@Tamburello_1994]

Educational. Love to see a Hornet dealie as well if you're still taking requests. Thanks.

[@TrickerDCS]

More to come!

[@SportDCS]

ACKSHUALLY AIM Chapter 5-4-6 (e)(6) states “ Controllers may issue a heading or a course direct to a fix between the IF and FAF at intercept angles not greater than 30 degrees for both conventional and RNAV instrument approaches.” I can send pictures of my certificates for qualification reference.

[@therocinante3443]

Thanks man, I've been having trouble with this till now. I was reading my symbology wrong

[@RebelNine]

Hi, thanks for this really good video on overhead break to landing in F16. The first jet I played with in DCS was the F/A-18 and now I’m getting to grips with the F16. That, and watching some other videos on landing the F16 leaves me a little confused regarding the use (or not) of the trim control on the F16. I (mis)understood that the trim control on the F16 had two modes; with wheels up, trim commands ‘G’ and with wheels down trim adjusts pitch to assist with speed on AoA? Could you clarify for me, us, the use, or otherwise, of the trim control on the F16; when it should be used, when it shoulkd not be used? Is it the case that our DCS HOTAS sticks, invariably fitted with strongish centering springs, makes our sticks in DCS somewhat different than a real stick in a real F16?

[@sedlo]

Well done! 50, 40, 30, 20, , 5..... Reverse Green. 70 kts.

[@TrickerDCS]

you're ready for your checkride!

[@KE8AB]

Great video mate, too bad I'll never get the chance to land after a sortie.

[@TrickerDCS]

you're my spirit animal

[@NLarsen1989]

Would love to see a walkthrough of some campaigns from you, especially in the F16

[@guttergeeks]

I don't have the '16 but that was a really nice and well-paced tutorial.

[@theaceofspades485]

I came here for a freshen up on my ILS. Then he raised his seat !😯 Did not know that. How many times I had to get un comfortable to see low on the HUD.

[@lordlobs]

You make it look easy! Great video!

[@Ricko1962]

You would make a great instructor pilot! I would also like to fly training flight with you as well!

[@TheBizno]

I gotta say, your much better at ILS landings then at A2A.. 😁

[@TrickerDCS]

hahahahaha

[@jeeveseventynine9263]

Thanks for this video Tricker. Is there a way to make them turn on runway lights and PAPI lights?

[@TrickerDCS]

I tried contacting the tower to tell them I was inbound but nothing happened, if it's dark enough they will turn them on for you.

[@markush.8942]

Amazing, thank you for this vid!

[@dcsvirtualgermanairforce1756]

Nice Video, great explanation.

[@thomasfreimuller4470]

Great tutorial and thanks a lot for the explination of the charts. Was always looking for a tutorial explaining the airport charts. Will there may be a tutorial in the near future with detailed explination of the charts? That would be awesome mate 👍🏻

[@TrickerDCS]

I'll see what I can do for more detailed chart explanation but there's plenty of great content already that goes in great detail about airport charts. I'll see what I csn do though, thanks for the comment.

[@flightsimstuff5417]

Good work as always.

[@jamesmcd71]

Does anyone know if it's possible to move the F10 map or the knee board to a 2nd screen? I have a small 16-inch display I use while in flight. The ability to put the F10 map and the knee board over there would be fantastic.

[@HosamowMusicChannel]

Thanks for great job you did ❤

[@youtubist8940]

Very good tutorial! Any chance of some more BMS content in the future?

[@TrickerDCS]

I definitely plan on it 💪

[@grepRask]

when plotting in the course heading, does the f-16 need to be concerned about magnetic declination or can you just put in the proper course from the airport information page. So in this case, the airport information page showed a coarse of 209, but would that change with the magnetic declination to something like 197 (I think the Vegas area is a -12 degree offset?)? or does that 209 take into account the declination already?

[@TrickerDCS]

Always put in what the chart says, the chart is your friend.

[@jared9191]

Never skip leg day

[@TrickerDCS]

Hah

[@DaytonaRider1]

Great video. Thank you.

[@alexanderdisney1202]

Wonderful, stepbro

[@Maverick72nd]

Super video and great instructions. I actually discovered now why I keep having trouble with the ILS sometimes - I have turned it off with the knob! 🙄 But, you did not mention command steering?

[@hansgold58]

Another nice one Tricker! It says CMD STRG on the DED, does that mean you could have used the flight director?

[@TrickerDCS]

There's actually a small ball on the HUD that I didn't cover called the command steering que, which you could actually follow. If you put the Flight patch marker over that que, you can technically fly it all the way down to the runway.

[@hansgold58]

@@TrickerDCS Thanks for the reply. I tried it yesterday, but strangely enough the little ball stayed on the horizon line although i think i was established on loc and g/s. Must be doing something wrong, i will try again.

[@hansgold58]

@@TrickerDCS Just tried it at Nellis, works great. Very exciting in VR with overcast rain and low ceiling!

[@TrickerDCS]

@@hansgold58 hey great job! Glad you got it! It's definitely a challenge but keep practicing and make it your b*tch

[@kayakutah]

Isn't the F-16 Cat E? Also, can't you hit Kryss from any direction as long as you do the procedure turn on the holding side as depicted?

[@mightywingtip8584]

What if there is no tacan for the airfield?

[@TrickerDCS]

You can still use the ils but there will be no distance (ranging) without a tacan unless you have a steer point at your destination with the ils.

[@tiaria9677]

Liked and subbed, this video is a life saver. Curious, are you a pilot in real life? Took aviation in high school under this old leatherneck pilot, and just missed my FAA test and after that, found out I am bipolar and there went my flying. Don't ask how many years ago that was though. We used the old flight computers....they still baffle me.

[@TrickerDCS]

Ah that's too bad man, hopefully you're enjoying flight simming though! Yah I fly for the airlines

[@tiaria9677]

@@TrickerDCS Oh hell yeah. DCS beats Falcon 3.0, and that makes me old. Mind if I ask what sort of jet you fly? Used to work for FedEx offloading and reloading the jets, DC10s/MD11s, various Airbuses. One of the pilots had 5000 flight hours in Hornets, he had some cool stories. Thanks for the videos, so glad I found your channel.

[@mrmaverick3578]

Nice video Tricker. very usefull.

[@revan91m]

When i make a Cold start, the ils Button does nothing.. why is that ? If i start in the air (quickstart) it works fine

[@104th_raccoon]

Great video as always! S! Case III in the F/A-18C Hornet or F-14 A for a next video?

[@TrickerDCS]

🙀 show your skills

[@104th_raccoon]

@@TrickerDCS we could fly it together!

[@LtShifty]

Nice video 👍

[@imasthfp4377]

Can i ask some question F16C Lightning pod Hud what key of Zoom In Zoom Out?

[@TrickerDCS]

It's the pinky switch or expand fov switch

[@bryananderson3422]

Interesting, when I took my IFR class the book said ATC should not give you a more than 30 degree approach. Helos were allowed to be give up to 45 degrees. If ATC gave you more then 30 you should question it.

[@TrickerDCS]

Nope you are correct, I misspoke

[@CameTo]

Next you'll be getting the SIDS and STARS out. Nothing like a rockstar1 into lost wages airport

[@chipwillis]

excellent ! thanks man!

[@IrishManJT]

Very nice.

[@reload54]

So where does a person get these charts? Thanks

[@TrickerDCS]

It’s in your knee board by default from Dcs if the map has them

[@reload54]

@@TrickerDCS ok thanks, I'm new to dcs and haven't used the kneeboard yet but I'll check to see what keybind it is and see if my default missions have them.

[@TrickerDCS]

@@reload54 rshift k to bring up your knee board and use [ ] keys to change pages

[@reload54]

@@TrickerDCS Thanks so much for the time, I know you are busy

[@TrickerDCS]

@@reload54 no worries. Welcome buddy

[@Avrum256]

Well done !!! great presentation ! could you pls do some more teaching films concerning the viper ? thank you in advance . wish you all the best .Avi .

[@TrickerDCS]

I have some things planned already. Thanks for the comment!

[@flyingcyking]

nice short tutorial, i like the from real life

[@piotrrkacperr4262]

PLS/NAV is based on EGI steerpoint which isn't certified, should use PLS/TCN, especially if you set TCN channel on DED earlier. Please don't tell me there's no PLS/TCN mode in DCS xd

[@TrickerDCS]

You are totally correct and this is what I meant to do. Thanks for pointing that out, and yes it is implemented.

[@donfox2067]

Could someone please help me, was is the term D M E stand for ? I've been looking and no one has said what it is.

[@TrickerDCS]

Distance measuring equipment

[@donfox2067]

@@TrickerDCS thanks for getting back to me. It was driving me crazy...

[@neelz]

Where can you find the charts for the airfields?

[@TrickerDCS]

They are on the knee board or I just did a quick Google search for Nellis afb charts

[@firatutku38]

we need a for m2000c autopilot ils landing syntetic runway new video tutorial.please.

[@TrickerDCS]

I was actually writing a script now

[@firatutku38]

@@TrickerDCS please show step by step which keys you use and what they do.

[@Rusty10100]

Is it possible and would you post the mission file for DCS. Would be useful practice for rookies like me

[@TrickerDCS]

Sure, I'll be home tomorrow to upload

[@TrickerDCS]

drive.google.com/file/d/1Z5R9y6iTPbRvx7c2-Yu_GSTHdUaSv7cX/view?usp=sharing

[@Rusty10100]

@@TrickerDCS Thank you. I really enjoy and learn from your videos

[@homeworxchannel4120]

Anyone have issues with a really dark hsi in the f16?

[@TrickerDCS]

i've heard some people have had issues with a dark hsi

[@hansgold58]

@@TrickerDCS Push the right button, then turn for brightness (but perhaps you already know this and it's a bug)

[@jvsimic]

I'm always a little sad the Hornet doesn't have the ILS system. F-16 time it is then!

[@philippe80]

Nice video. Thanks.

[@TrickerDCS]

Glad you liked it!

[@g.skouras2599]

beautiful man thanks...

[@TrickerDCS]

just need your touch to make the ILS approach to look amazeballs

[@g.skouras2599]

@@TrickerDCS you should call me man no problem ...

[@TrickerDCS]

Hell yah bro, are you in my discord?

[@g.skouras2599]

@@TrickerDCS no send it

[@TrickerDCS]

discord.gg/Dd9JN694

[@pyroscot]

Jesus Tricker only a perfect approach and landing but it will just have to do 😄 Pyro

[@dixonjamesofficial]

I guess the rain on the canopy works now

[@Crunch104]

Hey Tricker, or anyone else, where can you get a copy of the charts like the one shown here for all the various maps in DCS please? Thanks. Hook a brother up. :)

[@TrickerDCS]

Their actually in the knee board if they are included in the map. This was Nevada and it has most charts for all the airports

[@Crunch104]

@@TrickerDCS Thanks for the help and your videos! 104th_Crunch :)

[@Blejz-m5j]

PRO!

[@clericneokun]

When do I use PLS/NAV vs PLS/TACAN?

[@TrickerDCS]

Use pls tacan for the ils approach if the dme is from a tacan

[@WhiskeyDale]

great video

[@TrickerDCS]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Hatredy11]

This should be a proper training mission from start-up to take off with the highlighted instructions and voiceover.

[@Rogue_y]

So good, you should become a pilot man.

[@TrickerDCS]

Maybe one day when I grow up

[@sqwaller]

Thank you

[@TrickerDCS]

You're welcome

[@TheBix8257]

Love that skin! What is it named?

[@TrickerDCS]

it's actually a defualt skin, 152nd FS

[@NovellusC1]

What`s mark is "◇" ?

[@TrickerDCS]

Current steer point, which was my home plate

[@falcon88h]

do not touch the seat;) makes your guncross disappear. in case you need max aero-braking and its unnecessary.

[@pd28cat]

Back when Tricker used his 2012 gaming intro 😢

[@theerapan]

Why it look so easy ^^v...

[@aether4505]

IAF does not stand for Instrument Approach Fix. It stands for Initial Approach Fix. IF is Intermediate Fix (Which is SHEET on this approach), and FAF is Final Approach Fix, which is at ROTSE for both the ILS (precision; indicated by the lightning bolt arrow on the profile view panel) and LOC (non-precision; indicated by the maltese cross) approaches

[@TrickerDCS]

Was a simple mistake while filming, thanks.

[@aether4505]

@@TrickerDCS No worries, awesome tutorial! I got some more backseat YouTubing... sorry :-/. Don't you need to be on your final approach speed by your FAF? I'm actually not sure about that. I don't fly complex, but I think you might also want to extend your gear by then too. And go-around is a term used for VFR traffic, IFR goes "missed". I would have also talked a bit more about your decision height/altitude, how to know when you need to go missed

[@TrickerDCS]

This was a basic guide for an ILS and I intended it to be. It's not uncommon to hear "go around, fly the published missed" here in the United States.

[@UorpvxOboela]

Not foggy nuff lol

[@aeroRCmodels]

REEEEEEEEEEE triggered by approach briefing ...

[@TrickerDCS]

It's a standard briefing, any questions?

[@krostouin]

@@TrickerDCS Hi Tricker, altitude in the airport chart isn't radar altitude ? Because 5000ft baro for 2800ft radar, I would not enjoy flying in the fog :) Also, CRS heading is always supposed to be indicated in magnetic heading ? Just want to be sure. Thanks, cheers !

[@TrickerDCS]

@@krostouin Always BARO altitude, which is why it's important to have the correct altimeter settings as well. You are correct, course heading for the approach is always magnetic when doing an ILS.

[@Rough.91]

I will nvr learn this 😂