DCS is a horror game but it's a bad weather landing

Nexx (new F14 pilot and DCS player) and Destarn (new F14 RIO) take on a bad weather landing after a successful A/A sortie on Blue Flag!

[@iamcaboose1]

just imagine the pilot and co pilot left the intercom on, on a commercial flight. "so the runway is in front of us right?" "yeah somewhere..."

[@Destarn]

sounds like something I used to do when flying milsim in Arma

[@Carvajal2909]

Better than real fighter pilots saying wherever my nose is pointed

[@not-alot-of-options]

ILS Cat 3 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnmtqWqff7ahnLs

[@aleksanderlenartowicz5659]

@@not-alot-of-options thats ILS cat 3 C, cat 3 has 3 different levels - A, B and C. C is the full autoland 0ft DH / 0m vis

[@jamegumb7298]

Een worse irl. A guy that was a former F-16 pilot offered to take use from Bonaire to Curaçao. I asked him because the Cessna did not have the reach ot do that "Oh we got tailwind we will be fine". We flew, this dude _ran out of fuel touching down_ and not BS he just barely hit the brakes going to park because the place otherwise was dead in place. And he was so blasé about it. "I had way worse over the Pacific don't cry." WTF is an F-16 doing over the Pacific? But oh well.

[@Emanuelee.Greco_]

Hint: call the ATC next time, so the runway lights will turn on and land slower 😉

[@Destarn]

Yeah they were on

[@2018paulrobbinx]

Or use the ILS

[@Destarn]

@@2018paulrobbinx No such thing on the tomcat

[@Destarn]

@@2018paulrobbinx ICLS is not ILS, it's a carrier only system

[@2018paulrobbinx]

@@Destarn I will redact my comment. I always assumed they were interchangeable.

[@s4dg]

the horror part was telling him to pitch up because he was too low, right after acknowledging that he's too slow.

[@shanegagnon3423]

true

[@yigitpar6492]

:D :D

[@Mike_294]

Great idea for a new horror movie: Backside of the Power Curve

[@DeltaEntropy]

Behind the Power Curve “The Harder You Pull, the Harder You Fall” In theaters this summer.

[@hughmungus5033]

That's why throttle for altitude and pitch for speed when landing, terrain permitting, of course. Don't pitch down into the ground lol.

[@kalui96]

You're winning in life if you're playing DCS in VR with a copilot you trust

[@JustAnOrdinarySimmer]

copilot who also taking the role of instructor by the sounds of it

[@captainduct5082]

Ayyyee, I've seen you in Math Mocha's vids

[@av8ak970]

@@JustAnOrdinarySimmer so annoying listening to all the PMs in simulators. Basically just try to boss the other guy around. I mean dude, if you wanted to micromanage why didn't you just say I want to fly as I don't actually know how to be a supporting screw member.

[@dutch24]

@@av8ak970 If you're incapable of communicating just say so

[@kozak1789]

Damn, jester is a well programmed ai, but it can't beat a human RIO

[@kipchickensout]

Unless someone like me is the RIO

[@kebman]

My father (a Norwegian) on his maiden flight. "Looks really cloudy down there..." My fathers instructor: "Yeah, just follow the coast a little more East" My father again: "Oooh I see an airpot!" Instructor: "Yes, yes, yes, land now, we're almost out of fuel man." Father: "Ok ok!" They landed, and when they taxi in they see Swedish flags, and a greeting committee of angry Swedish customs agents wonder why the hell they landed unannounced in another country.

[@mhe0815]

If I may give some pointers: 1.) Kobuleti has a TACAN, 67X. Radio Navigation makes your life a ton easier, especially in bad weather. Radio Nav is worth learning. Could even fly a bearing to a WP. 2.) When flying a fighter, don't worry about your landing speed, worry about your Angle of Attack, speed just falls in place then. Your target speed will vary with weight, AoA will not. 3.) Don't land long - even if you have a runway chart and know how long it is, if you don't touch down where you should, you have no idea whether it will work. Don't keep higher speed until visual, you will be too fast when landing, land long and run the risk of an overshoot. Try to be stable 1000ft before touchdown (on track, fully configured, speed/AoA established, all switches done). 4.) If you have distance info like TACAN or WP, plan for 3 miles to lose 1000ft (since you don't have land-based ILS and hence no glideslope). 5.) If you follow point 4, your expected descent rate will be approx 5x your airspeed (e.g. if you fly 180kt, descend with a rate of 900ft/min). Or put HUD in LDG mode and fly -3 degrees. 6.) Set your radar altimeter alarm so you get a warning before the terrain sneaks up on you Hope that helps, keep it up! :)

[@Destarn]

Yep, I've been playing DCS for years, though we didn't know how to use TACAN and didn't have time to figure it out in the weather, kidna caught us off guard. We've now picked up on it and have that figured out And yeah our (nexx's primarily) landings have improved significantly as we got more comfortable with the plane since I have quite literally thousands of hours in other planes so I gave him plenty of pointers on all the other sorties we've flown since this video. Thanks though! we're definitely coming back with more, already have plenty of footage.

[@mhe0815]

@@Destarn Great job, always awesome to see people learn and put in the effort instead of the shallow air-quake that many MP servers devolve into! The coolest thing is always when stuff happens that was really hard and way outside the comfort zone - there are those that start training so it won't ever catch them off guard again and there are those who just shrug it off, respawn and don't care. Glad you are definitely the former and not the latter. Improving the overall skillset and not just the K/D ratio is what it is all about. Guess I'll have to sub!

[@bonesinnersanctumsanctuary9253]

Their radar altimeter was on you can hear the alarm when they hit 500 ft agl. Also leave your airbrakes on all the way through the landing. The Tomcat's engines are more responsive with the airbrakes on plus you don't have to worry about being over speed like you had. Also have your flaps down (i think you did) and engage DLC and don't be afraid to use it, that's what it's there for.

[@migmindy]

your second point was something i learned in a cessna, applies outside of fighters as well. pitch for speed, power for alt.

[@dietcoke759]

"the airbrake is still out" "ja, ist gut"

[@GolddenWaffles]

Great Teamwork!!! That’s how you fly the Tomcat! No single pilot shenanigans, it’s always been a two seater! Anywhere Anytime Baby!

[@fangs_out8879]

Except in reality when landing the RIO doesn't say anything and is just a passenger as the pilot flies the plane

[@ShuRugal]

@@fangs_out8879 Any responsible pilot makes use of all of the tools at his disposal, including crew coordination. Any good aircrew shares the workload automatically. A RIO who is just being a passenger is a bad RIO. A pilot who tells his RIO to shut up and not help him with navigation, communication, and checklists is a bad pilot.

[@Beaver.17]

@@ShuRugal what you're saying is generally correct. But besides participating in checklists, the RIO is not needed for instrument approaches. They would chime in if the pilot is off parameters, but what they're doing in this video is not realistic.

[@ShuRugal]

@@Beaver.17 oh, without a doubt, but "the RIO wouldn't be giving the pilot PAR instructions" is a whole lot different than "The RIO is a silent passenger". That's all I was trying to communicate.

[@thomasloveless4800]

Love the precise analysis…. “Runway should be somewhere in front of us……” hahaha.

[@Orca19904]

Was expecting some kind of jumpscare, such as a bandit out of nowhere (especially when I heard the RWR pings) or a friendly landing/taking off from the opposite direction.

[@obsidianjane4413]

Stall. Warning! Stall. Warning! Stall. Warning...

[@Orca19904]

@@obsidianjane4413 125 knots, we're too slow, add power!

[@fangs_out8879]

Tally is only for sighting enemies. Visual is for sighting friendlies. Contact is for sighting known point of reference such as a runway. Normally we would be tracking a needle in these conditions

[@TurboHappyCar]

"We left some skidmarks" and some marks on the runway. 😂

[@BeauVerwijlen]

I always admire the guys simming in DCS! For someone with over 3000 hours of Airbus A320-familiy experience, and roughly 2500 flighthours on Vatsim in X-Plane 11, it is still amazing to see these kind of actions! When I need to cancel the approach due to bad wheather for example, normaly there is no problem. But when you simulate combat situations while also flying a very agile plane onto the final... Cool!

[@UnderCoverMetalHead]

My dad plays this also in VR. He is pacing for the F4 since he used to be a flight line mechanic on them. I've watched him set up missions and do bombing runs. He has a whole set up! I keep telling him he should make videos but he says no one watches dcs videos lol. Great video man!

[@Destarn]

Oh people do watch DCS videos, I think he should give it a try with the F4 since he’s got some insight into the airframe, could be very interesting!

[@Davi3038849844]

i watch it a lot and i dont have DCS

[@jupiterjones11]

Love the teamwork and communication here, love video games where people really get into the support role, and love the trust the pilot showed in his co pilot

[@robertd57i989]

That VR was really awesome to see. I wish i had the ability to play DCS. Maybe some day

[@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations]

I fly in VR. One day you will get there. As long as you work towards it. It took me almost four years to build up to my current PC. I bought a pre-made one in 2019 and slowley upgraded.

[@SparrowNiner]

@@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations wait are you me? lol same exact situation here

[@MinecraftMastersARG]

You'll make it bro, just keep at it

[@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations]

@@SparrowNiner Could be? Maybe it's the Mandela Effect again!!! ;)

[@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations]

@@SparrowNiner My pre-made came with one stick of 8 Gig RAM PMSL! And a 9th gen i-5, with a RTX 2070 Super, 1 terrabyte HDD, 750 watt power box and a 60 Pound (as in GBP) Motherboard! All for 1,000 Great British Pounds. My currency symbol on my keyboard is broke right now it seems. I was playing in 4K with that thing, using my TV at the time but I almost immediately added another 8 Gig RAM stick and an external USB SSD with horrendous write speeds. With that setup I was playing Cyberpunk 2077, Assassins Creed Valhalla, Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, IL-2 Great Battles but it wouldn't play DCS in 4K well at all. All on a 2070 Super, back then. Struggling for 60fps most of the time on a 60Hz TV. It took a while to get to my current build which is listed on my channel. I am looking to get a 55 inch LG C1 4K 120Hz OLED next and use it for playing single player cinematic games and as a TV for watching KZbin and old classic 80's and 90's movies. They have dropped in price quite a bit since the C2 and 2023's C3 version.

[@grizzworld]

Things you should Know about the Tomcat....... 1. Allways land with airbrakes and anti skid activated.(exactly as you do when landing on a carryer) 2. don't flare at all you have the toughest landing gear ever constructed for a fighter jet. 3.Don't use brakes on touchdovn (they are terrible and only usefull on taxiing) Let the anti skidd and airbrake do their job as you roll out with plenty of runway ahead of you, when your speed is down to 100 pull back on the stick all the way and you will have the stabs working as the largest airbrakes on ANY fighterjet. And you will still have A LOT of runway ahead of you.

[@therflash]

antiskid off on the boat. You don't want to risk the spoilers coming up on touchdown in case you miss a wire. They shouldn't because you should have your power up but still, if you accidentally hit iddle cause you're too high over wires and then you bolter anyway, the spoilers would drop your nose and kill your airspeed and you'd taxi into the drink.

[@Windwalker85]

Honestly, worst experience for me in DCS was one of the training missions where I needed to land in pitch black during rain. Managed to pull it off somehow on first try, had to change my pants after it. One of those - ok,let's never do this again - moments.

[@Destarn]

Good, now do it again :D

[@Cheiff117]

Good teamwork, Case 3 landings are fun af , and low vis airfield and flying in general, really gotta know the plane , and systems

[@Destarn]

Yeah, we didn't even know the plane that well so there was a lot of relying on luck lol

[@Cheiff117]

@@Destarn its a hard jet to master, but enjoy the ride

[@HoloOG]

I wish I had a mate to play DCS with. That’s the only reason why I’m not gonna get the f14 W landing tho

[@PaVVroo]

Jester is not ideal but does the job well enough for singleplayer to be enjoyable

[@semvv8638]

I'm pretty new to DCS but down to play with you in the F14 if you'd like

[@deadshot4245]

do it man the viper the hornet and fc3 are all great fun

[@HoloOG]

@@deadshot4245 na I got dcs I play f18 but still trying to convince one of my mates to get dcs

[@CocoDave37]

Poor pilot having to listen to speed calls all the way to the deck. Reminds me on Kimi Raikkonen when they asked him in an interview during rally racing if the co-pilot's calls are helpful. He replied, "I make believe I am listening"

[@oceanforth21]

if kimi said that in reference to rally, he was bullshitting through and through.

[@JakeDulton]

Very Nice, Love this game! Really nice that we can actually go in as a RIO/copilot or pilot together. Would like to get this jet but my friends are too dumb to manage on this game. Cant wait for the official AC-130 drop.

[@smac2862]

First time seeing this...really good communication in that weather. Good job guys.

[@USNVA11]

Your crew chief is gonna have a fit over what you did to his landing gear with that ground loop. I’m talking a real tool tossing, trash can kicking fit ! 😏

[@ricky6608]

It’s a game they don’t have a crew chief

[@Destarn]

nah we do

[@teleguy5699]

@@ricky6608 He was kidding. duh

[@dimitrimaurommatis4958]

@@ricky6608 You missed the joke harder than i missed the landing first time on the supercarrier on the Tomcat....

[@jaywulf]

Any landing you walk away from is a good landing.

[@irrationalideas]

Awesome landing! Those storms on blue flag are so hard to navigate through

[@A2Moonclaw]

Fast landing, one thing I would add is to keep the AOA at 15 units, I usually put the speed break out when dirtying up.

[@spacemonkey037]

backseat flying? outrageous...

[@BiggestMarph]

Imagine doing it IRL on a moonless night, on a LHD, overcast, light fog, in a V-22. The describes the one of few landing that freaked me out the most. Trust your instruments!

[@andrefalzon3437]

Nice team work. When flying military aircraft I always try to land on the piano keys.

[@SoggyPilot]

basically did a contact approach. love it

[@HarryVoyager]

I hear Glitch Mob going in the background.

[@Destarn]

Indeed, got a few of their tunes on my DCS playlist

[@TheFlightSimDeck]

That was awesome! I need to experience team work like this on DCS sometime.

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

Aha! So, that's why it's good to have a co-pilot, *sometimes!*

[@twistedfingersproject]

LOL, last mission I did in the MiG-21bis (Mission: Firefox), I was dodging trees on short final. I didn't see the runway until I was about 20 feet above it. Good COMs though...

[@earthsmurf6502]

impressive to land with A/D chart in IMC condition approach

[@observantmagic4156]

Nice accent friend 😊

[@Destarn]

It's a mix of everything and it changes rapidly throughout the day lol

[@viper31stvfw86]

awesome landing, guys^^

[@Fightingturtle404]

i like flying in bad weather i have video landing its tough sometimes but i think it looks neat love your videos m8

[@jinzhang8241]

Never say you’ve left skidmarks only when you’ve been married for ten years and you do each other’s laundry

[@jackraylongiii9663]

Y'all made it harder rhan you needed to by far lol

[@Destarn]

that's what happens when neither the pilot nor rio learn the plane and have a minor inconvenience thrown at them

[@jackraylongiii9663]

@@Destarn yeah not knowing how to operate the aircraft from the driver's seat or the RIO's does make things a little bit more complicated that's for sure LMAO you're definitely not wrong 😂

[@Pablo668]

Great work guys, that was a tad scary.

[@jinzhang8241]

Jester would’ve ejected himself 3 miles out and called an Uber instead

[@toddw6716]

The guy in back probably knows less then the guy in front

[@loch502]

Oh hey I just got recommended this. HI HERNANDEZ!!!

[@Destarn]

OH HI

[@vimfuego8827]

Same shit when I was landing in severe wind and rain while my wife was shouting downstairs that my beef casserole was ready. Geez it put me off the whole landing. Some women have no consideration !

[@apachedave]

Talk about failing the instrument checkride...

[@drillcream]

"Little bit of power and flare a little bit".......

[@emknight84]

You should be using the TACAN for KBL 67X and dial in the runway heading.

[@MorgMorgW]

​@phrozen ICLS is carrier only, hence the C. That was not an option.

[@phrozen755]

@@MorgMorgW Correct! I had forgotten that the tomcat cannot tune into land based ILS systems.

[@MorgMorgW]

@@phrozen755 it'd be pretty cool if they could do ils though

[@termitreter6545]

@@phrozen755 The US navy actually has mobile ILCS beacons for land bases, ED said they are looking into it. Landing in bad weather without TACAN or ISL... thats rough man xD

[@phrozen755]

@@termitreter6545 nice! I hadn’t seen ED’s mention of looking into that (especially for really bad weather + night landings).

[@Just-Steve]

TACAN: "Am I a joke to you"

[@ryukyusun]

That was pretty good!

[@zeroundying]

Anyone else have a GIANT video recommendation appear in the center of the screen and block the last 20 seconds?

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

Loving the ejection seat. Realistic

[@DerekFischer]

Good job, Cougar!

[@christophed4579]

Jester is the invisible man

[@bulletstop100]

Nicely done!!

[@thejetfighter]

Nice team work 😀

[@NoFear1979]

Nice teamwork and dramatic ending. I hope the skidmarks were located to the tarmac as well 😅

[@alexdemoya2119]

if you think about it no matter what youll end up on the earth again

[@vilchez2000]

That's a good leader!

[@aviation-action]

Great vid! Keep up the great work. Just sub’d.

[@No1sonuk]

Nice handbrake turn at the end. Why didn't you leave the airbrake out?

[@deadshot4245]

everytime i land that beast its full brakes full airbrake and full back stick once its planted stops in no time adding the full back stick

[@angrypixelhunter]

Imagine if they landed and suddenly a truck appears in the fog...it was actually a road all along.

[@Engineer_Eric_59]

Nice job

[@isodoublet]

Good approach m8s, nothing horror about it at all

[@migmindy]

beautiful work fellas

[@ThesynEden]

Why is the RIO telling the pilot how to fly the plane? I'm honestly confused

[@Fester_]

That was fun. Cheers.

[@kevinrobb86]

Skidmarks inside the jet too

[@RocketPropelledGuy]

>Human RIO 3 minutes isn't fair, you know you both had more fun and said more funny shit than 3 minutes worth. Gib more

[@iNeedDinnerHD]

VFR pilots when they get caught in IMC 😂

[@Destarn]

Yep 😂

[@ItsJustSteve]

impressive work!

[@minus5m]

You can fly the Tomcat with 2 players in DCS??

[@termitreter6545]

Yup, most 2 crew planes can have a human copilot.

[@Destarn]

Yep, highly recommended it

[@OgamiItto70]

Yeah, you left some skidmarks. If it was a real plane and you were a real aircrew you would've definitely left some skidmarks--and not just on the runway.

[@Destarn]

If it was a real plane and we were a real aircrew, we'd already be trained on IMC landings, which at the time of recording of that clip I had no clue how to RIO and Nexx had no clue how to fly haha

[@OgamiItto70]

@@Destarn It was a good video. Entertaining, comedic and suspenseful all at the same time.

[@deadshot4245]

@@Destarn kzbin.info/www/bejne/d2bWnn2crbqHgM0 ever have one of these moments yet?

[@AugmentedGravity]

NANI??? KANSEI DORIFTO??

[@TARKDWELL]

I wish my rio was like this🥲

[@andrejjan2240]

0:20 The incredible cockpit photoreal texture qualit! It´s not a game it is just 4K cokpit pictures slideshow....

[@Destarn]

Sure is a slideshow sometimes with how the game tends to run lol

[@paulmonea8876]

I fly a RoAF F16 in DCS so i would do a downwind approach just to confirm i have visual on the runway, and after turn upwind on the runway:)))

[@TheGbarnsleyboy]

remember pitch for speed throttle for altitude you told him to nose up to climb 👍

[@danh6720]

Try thinking of it this way, use your throttle to control altitude and pitch to control airspeed.

[@skipsteel]

I have but two things to say do not use the Air Brakes on Final! Dissent landing, a little poor Airmanship on Final approach.

[@censorshipBS]

I bet he doesn't use indicators on a roundabout ❤

[@Destarn]

We fly right through them

[@THEGHOSTMAKER1]

What graphics card and system specs are you running? Looks ace top video and a like and sub 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Destarn]

Hey, thanks! RTX 3090 Ryzen 7 5800X 64GB 3200MHz RAM DCS is on an NVMe drive and I’m playing in VR or a Reverb G2

[@THEGHOSTMAKER1]

@@Destarn yeah looks ace. Very nice similar to mine. Im running a 4090 7800X3d 32gb Hp reverb g2 Do you run reshade? Or settings in dcs? Reason i ask is it looks very realistic weater quality.

[@Destarn]

@@THEGHOSTMAKER1 I don't run reshade, no. As for settings I run medium/high, keeping clouds, shadows and textures to high, the rest being medium pretty much.

[@THEGHOSTMAKER1]

@@Destarn ah ok so no ultra or performance settings.

[@sirtom3011]

I’ve done this for real….you almost cannot see the runway

[@willkilla]

I want my 3 minutes back

[@Destarn]

No refunds, I'll gladly take 7 minutes of your time with the Tomcat - Anti Everything video that isn't actually garbage like this one

[@Bishop_DE]

Long Landing, Long Landing. :D

[@Justashooter]

That’s a bingo

[@humptydumpty3345]

This guy is not on glide slope

[@RHRoficial]

Centerline has left the chat

[@bagoistvan3182]

👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺..nice landing...😁😁😁

[@Sidewinder627]

Ate half the runway before touch down lol verify landing distance and runway lenghts

[@Destarn]

I pay whole runway I use whole runway

[@Maxtopic69]

Not the prettiest but effective and good enough for a safe landing

[@tommaxwell429]

Yeah, well no big deal. If it takes two people to land a fighter than something is wrong! LOL!

[@Tr3yM34]

lol if thats horror imagine the people who had to do this irl

[@witchywoman165]

Some IFR/ILS training is in order.

[@Destarn]

Well I can say that our drifts have improved immensely and can now be performed on each landing for style points :)

[@jjeeqq]

your mic is quite loud or game sound low, i adjusted headphones so i get in-game sounds authentic, feel being inside cockpit.

[@alexeysmith]

One fifty knoTSSSSSSSSS

[@stijnvandamme76]

why the hell is the rio telling the pilot how to fly?

[@Destarn]

Because he was completely new to the game and has never landed in such conditions :)

[@nenadpaunovic4008]

that was very spookie indeed