DCUO Artifact: Lernaea's Amulet In-Depth Preview

[@ObsidianChill]

0:00 Start 0:32 Rank Comparison Bonus 2:21 Power Cost vs Damage Comparison 7:40 Rotation Example 10:47 Testing Results Breakdown 17:25 How Much Might Per Stack?

[@mnavare1]

where does this artifsct drop?

[@dynamorio]

Just re-started my guy. And learning about these artifacts....... HOW/WHERE do I find the Solar Amp artifact? I keep getting Flash capsules.

[@ObsidianChill]

@@dynamorio check the broker, the solar amp is tradable and someone might be selling it

[@theonlygen2779]

Really appreciate what you do for the community Chill. -Anti Objective

[@TheLQGaming]

Time to Lernaea new style of DPSing. Sorry couldn't resist :P

[@mresandwich7755]

Lol😭

[@jfernandez7176]

There has to be a reason why this particular artifact was created for this new DLC... I’m just not sure what benefit there is to using an artifact that damages me whilst I hit an add or boss. It will be interesting to see the order of magnitude impacting healers as they stress trollers since DPS don’t lose too much power. I can see this becoming more of an issue until loadout rotation is well defined to compensate for the suicidal factor of this artifact. Thanks for bringing your insight to this artifact, @ObsidianChillDCUO.

[@ObsidianChill]

it was just an attempt to increase might single target damage but with the damage aspect, it's just not viable for most content

[@sethchandler4170]

I use it with solar and la mort on a very simple rotation. Since I have la mort I cut off lerneaes at 5-6 stacks. Doing this short rotation, while not maximizing lerneaes, fully utilizes heat vision and my finisher. I'm mental. I use mass hysteria and neo venom boost simultaneously. My rotation is Horrific visage for the SC generation and PI setup into cryokenesis x2 for encasing into heat vision then my finisher and repeat. A consistent 6-9% buff for heat vision and a 10-15% for my finisher while not worrying about death or stressing the healer is good to me. The damage increase isn't incredible but it's additive. I really enjoy it. I don't enjoy how long it takes to level artifacts though.

[@omightylegend2521]

Strategist, Transformation and Lerneas is the way to go. Finisher definitely helps in elite duos we’re you could self sustain against boss and ads without needing healer. Or even when boss nukes you and you want that burst of heal, finishers got you. In raids 9/10 I end up top dps against max artifact dps, keep in mind my lerneas is only lvl 120 and Strategist lvl 160.

[@chrisdlc281]

Am i glad you said elite duos ( wich is easy to complete with no artifact equipped ). Try this artifact doing elite alerts and raids and see if your still like Larnaea😂.

[@jefferywilliams2624]

@@chrisdlc281 it’s still pretty good in elite

[@xrinnegan]

On top of that , in raids THERE IS SOOO MUCH SPLATTER DAMAGE so the boss is going to do some type of move that already takes half your life , so if you’re doing damage and then get hit by something like that you’re dead lol

[@tamartin64]

That's an insane amount of risk for a 4% bump in DPS, and that's with the assumption you have a good couple of healers, or healers willing to put up with that crap. You mention the "fun factor" of the arti, but it looks like that's directly proportional to the suck factor of being a healer.

[@Commanderikillu]

Totally agree. I’m not sure if the 4% is even worth it because of the high chance of death. You die once and you are losing a lot of damage that you would not lose if you don’t use the art.

[@jadedcode8953]

18:36 Shouldn't it be 30% difference? I thought your might increases by 3% per stack up to 10. I love the effort put in the video. You didn't have to run them numbers, but you did anyway 👍

[@ObsidianChill]

technically yes, it's something I can bring up. I was just standing out of combat so escalating might didn't proc nor any other mods or buffs so it will be an exact figure on the stacks and it's easy to see when you are at the 10 stack might due to the damage in/animation

[@pdg90]

Truth yeah man, thanks OC! your videos are singlehandedly keeping this game populated. 👍🏽👏🏾

[@ObsidianChill]

Redid the testing, rank 160 (2 stacks) is a % increase of 13.70 might vs the 19.869 that rank 200 is currently

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@ObsidianChill You stated in terms of highest might artifacts by way of highest base stats, it is Solar Amplifier, Philosopher's Stone and then Learnea. Yet, would it not be Solar Amplifier, Source Shard, then Philosophers Stone followed by Learnea? Solar at 160 gives you 5% continuous passive might buff Source Shard at 160 gives you 5% continuous passive might buff Philosopher's Stone at 180 not 160 gives you 4% continous passive might buff and 4% is the highest you can get out of the stone No, I wouldn't ideally use Source shard for single target LO's for reasons I'm sure are obvious to you. Yet, in terms or just raw passive might, you have to put in more XP for the Philopsher stone than the Source Shard and you still can only get 4% max might out of the stone oppoae to 5% max might out of the shard.

[@demonicvampire01]

Kendall Fleming When he says base stats, he means the 1875 might stat on both Solar and Philosopher at rank 200. Source shard and Learnea only have 1275 base at 200, so he is correct.

[@Stizzfoshizz]

Sorry for all the replies. Just wanted to break them up a bit. You should do a rotation with a supercharge after the stack. Would like to see what that would look like

[@inkXIV]

I am not healing anyone running this art.

[@DangerouslyActive]

Agreed. Doesn't this damage yourself...adding numbers to the board? So your dpsing yourself plus adds/boss. 🤔😐

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@DangerouslyActive The Devs or Batuba adjusted it where the dog to yourself via this art doesn't count towards your numbers, nor will you see it when on parser. It won't add numbers via damage to yourself. This art won't be much problem for rage, muni, and possibly HL depending on the use of channel power length and it's power cost but it's still a pain. Yet, give it time, they'll adjust this art down the road.

[@DangerouslyActive]

@@kendallfleming5858 appreciate the feedback. That's a huge concern of mines.

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@DangerouslyActive Absolutely

[@dashingpe7141]

u cant control ur healings :v

[@sebastianfontenot3939]

So I’m hearing a lot about this artifact recently and seeing videos as well of people running this art to begin with. They get some stacks, art swap it off and then back on and are keeping the stacks some how for the damage and not having to run 35%. I’ve seen it done on pc/ps. Any info?

[@ebonycarter76]

The best artifact in the game💯Miz liberty😊

[@xrinnegan]

YESS OBSIDIAN 10 sec parse shows how hard you hit within that 30 seconds and how consistently you hit

[@thomaseternal7821]

Here's my usage of Lernaea's Amulet as an atomic battle tank kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmLGq6qjqNWtj5o

[@RamseyD99]

I see a lot of people talking about swapping strategist for the artifact and keeping solar. Wouldn’t trans strat and lernea’s artifact be a better combo? Especially with the strat buff coming up? I mean 6k+ tics without crits sounds better than the solar

[@kendallfleming5858]

No, Solar offers the highest base damage at 1725 with a possible 5% passive buff. Most are running heat vision in their ST loadouts, even Nature is hardcore of a dps it is that doesn't need heat vision. Most nature will still run it on Gorilla. Solar is a consistent buff. Strat is a proc buff as to where you may get a strat buff every 3rd or 4th or 5th crit. Yes 6k tics without buff is nice pending wonderverse release, absolutely. Yet Trans compliments the living hell out of solar, you get the base buff, passive buff and crit buff from trans into solar. You're giving up a lot swapping solar for Larenea. Larena will work but won't be much of a difference parser wise with or without equipped. This art is more suited for Rage, Muni, Fire, maybe HL and maybe gadgets or Nature. The solar is promised guaranteed consistent damage. Larena, you'll spike up damage, even at 10 stacks with a 200 art for Larena, you'll probably be able to do 1 rotation at 10 stacks and have to rebuild. Then activate, then repeat. So your damage is regular while building stacks, activate your stacks, damage goes up, then maybe 2 rotations before you need a finisher to reset, and back to normal damage, set up stacks, spike up damage, 2 rotations and finisher. So your damage balances out because your up and down. Solar is up and just offers more. Channel powers will be important for this artifact

[@omightylegend2521]

Yeah running Strate, Transformation and Lerneas is the way to go. Definitely out dps meta still, I’m fire btw. Finisher definitely helps in elite duos we’re you could self sustain against boss and adds without needing healer

[@Stizzfoshizz]

I know a lot of healers who are already hating this artifact. But I also know a lot of healers who are chomping at the bit to heal through a raid with dps running this artifact. Lots of healers out there just going through the motions and been waiting for a challenge like this

[@kendallfleming5858]

You better hope most of those Dps's are Rage, Muni, HL or Fire, otherwise in the famous words of Dave Chappelle "Na Son"

[@bertlee20]

"you're obviously not going to die from this"... pops cola to not die...

[@melvinnolatv8087]

Gotta question does the amulet cancels out stealth ? Like for gadgets or mental been trying to go into stealth and gets canceled

[@ObsidianChill]

the damage can kick you out of stealth if you aren't wearing the improved stealth hand mod to shield yourself from it

[@amusedjester]

I think they changed that from the initial release. I was getting massive damage hits after the 6th stack, to the point that on the 10th stack I was down to 35% health. This version is actually more viable than before.

[@ObsidianChill]

deos drago they did Batuba 1/2 almost the dmg you took back from the stacks

[@TaxBowler]

Hi can you help me. I have it now on Level 82, but it doesnt work. I use Quantum and DD but it doesnt stack when i use my might powers. Something wrong?

[@blkmambax1633]

Always great Job , what the discord wanted to ask a few things ?

[@ObsidianChill]

ObsChill#0839 is mine or my community one is discord.gg/cTuNg3N

[@zer0strike176]

just fooling around in regular this works well with Philosophers Stone since that artifact makes your powers cost 0 power for 8 seconds you can do max damage for 8 seconds and take no damage from learna Obviously its not realistic to use still but its fun in lower content

[@closclos4046]

People with this art still getting kicked from the raid group

[@mgs1398]

Yo chill, quick question, what’s the name of the base items you use to keep the sparring targets in place? Trying to do it for myself.

[@ObsidianChill]

the best items to use are the Standard Room Divider or if you type in "Wall" into the broker.

[@mgs1398]

ObsidianChillDCUO aight, thanks man.

[@mgs1398]

ObsidianChillDCUO one more thing, how do you keep them from breaking?

[@ObsidianChill]

@@mgs1398 the breakthroughs breaking? you need to buy seals of preservation or seals of completion from the marketplace

[@mgs1398]

ObsidianChillDCUO nah, I’m talking about the base items lol. I noticed in your vids when you parse the walls keep em in place and don’t break, but I tried it a little earlier and the items kept breaking. Is it the specific items you used? Or is there a way to stop your items from breaking is what I was wondering.

[@icedcuo1229]

Ok so quick question. How would this artifact work with a combo power like Light? With them only spamming Grasping Hand and Hand Clap, is that sustainable, and if so, is that a high damage capability?

[@ObsidianChill]

it gets tricky I couldn't do it without a healer but I was using HV for more dots, regular light ST rotation might have worked

[@icedcuo1229]

@@ObsidianChill didnt you say the regular ST rotation was better than using HV?

[@ObsidianChill]

@@icedcuo1229 you dont use solar you use just normal HV and j/c it right away for the extra burning dots

[@ShadowXMadden]

I'm Gunna use this on my earth tank.

[@kendallfleming5858]

It's definitely going to be a hit for Earth battle Tanks, belive it

[@DBZeni]

I wonder how this would work with a battle electric healer. Healer role but with mostly single target damage with 1 or 2 heal moves.

[@kendallfleming5858]

You'll typically need a 2nd healer in the room. You'll probably just get booted or piss of the group. If you want to do damage then just fully DPS. If you're Battle healing and keeping up with the burn, you have a problem Houston. Heal and be a healer in my opinion. Plus, you have to put a finisher in your LO and for this art to work, you need low power cost moves which typically aren't as hard hitting and they need decent cast times to do multiple hits over time.....I.e. Rage, Muni and HL. The faster you get to that next hard hitting power the faster you have to get to that finisher by next rotation. When people see your health going all over the place, AND you're the healer taking the priority heals from the Tank in a raid.......a mother F U or two is coming your way, belive it

[@Artghostwriter]

Even without escalating might proccing shouldn’t you get 30% might at 10 stacks instead of 19?

[@ObsidianChill]

going by the artifact yea, reported it we'll see what is intended or not

[@rightful4973]

Can you go in depth on the purple healing ray?

[@bigsgjai]

Does Nature need solar because I'm switching to nature

[@ObsidianChill]

Xovsツ yes it does

[@miserbrother9853]

i also wouldn't switch to nature because it's going to get the nerf bat soon so it would prolly be best to get better with a different power than to get good with this one only to get changed

[@gabydenis3635]

What is a good healer Power to dps with this?

[@Stizzfoshizz]

You also have to take into account damage from enemies on top of this artifact though. Even with a tank in content you're still going to take damage.

[@kendallfleming5858]

It's more ideal for single target not AoE. If you're ST u shouldn't be in the mix. Now if the tank is sloppy or bad with aggro, yes

[@andre9788]

how much stacks did you go up to @ObsidianChillDCUO

[@thomaseternal7821]

You should have tried Atomic Tanking. I can see the amulet working best for them. One as an atomic tank, your abilities use less power so that already is countering the amulet side effect. Two I seen another video of a tank using the amulet and getting more heal from it. An an atomic tank, your combo powers give health back. You could in theory use the stone art to have powers cost zero. You could further decrease the power cost with chest mod.

[@ObsidianChill]

they reduced how much it heals back in tank stance its 1/2

[@thomaseternal7821]

The art at 200 gives 100% back so you're saying it'll be half in tank stance?

[@thomaseternal7821]

@@ObsidianChill I read the notes Batuba says self damage by half, nothing indicates the healing part.

[@ObsidianChill]

@@thomaseternal7821 correct Batuba halved the amount of healing gained from finishers will in tank role

[@ObsidianChill]

@@thomaseternal7821 forums.daybreakgames.com/dcuo/index.php?threads/ep-38-artifact-lernaeas-amulet.309975/page-5#post-4331851

[@soniking2580]

Does the shield protect some of the self-inflicting damage from the artifact or will it go through the shield?

[@ObsidianChill]

a shield will protect a bit of it yes but not all

[@soniking2580]

@@ObsidianChill ah, ok, thank you very much for the reply 😊

[@Skilleee]

very nice

[@WHATNAMECANIFUKINUSE]

this is a kick from an instance art, if you wanna run this solo thats fine, you try bringing this in a alert or raid or elite, boot incoming

[@kendallfleming5858]

Pfft you can say that again, unless your Muni, Rage or maybe HL you can get away with this art

[@msuphoto]

How does this work with Rage's self heal mechanic?

[@msuphoto]

Also, you’d run scrap, transformation and larnaea’s ?

[@ObsidianChill]

you still heal back the damage because its damage taken its just just as fast cause you are in dps role. So it helps but with rage building stacks so quick you can still easily die

[@Amongoose06]

Which is the artifact that makes the flaming seal appear underneath you?

[@ObsidianChill]

that would be philosopher's stone the supply drop artifact

[@Amongoose06]

@@ObsidianChill thank you so much!

[@Be.Blessed]

So not only do healers have to heal enemy damage, they have to heal self-induced damage as well? I wouldn't blame not one healer in the game if they refused to run with any DPS using this.

[@jeremiahwilliams2824]

Damage per power cost? So would this be bad for HL because of the clipping

[@ObsidianChill]

HL increases the stacks very quickly yes

[@SafariAhri]

This will be to much stress on us healers I don’t think you should use it

[@kendallfleming5858]

Yes, unless your rage, Muni, HL or running a LO that has low power cost with long cast times but overall, yep, annoying it'll get adjusted down the road

[@franciscohahn9393]

Same thoughts i had with my friends, may be good to play around, but not to use on elite raids. Can't risk someone really needing the priority heal because im killing myself. Cajaritotutututu - USPC

[@MrCavonta]

WHAT ABOUT ELEC?!? Lol seriously though thx for everything you do for the community

[@xrinnegan]

Use this Artifact in my group and you’re getting kicked 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kungfootmaster]

x Rinnegan LMFAOOOOOOOOO

[@Littlefire5]

I dont find this artifact anywhere. Where can i get it please?

[@ObsidianChill]

It is apart of the Wonderverse dlc. So if you have that dlc episode you can buy it for source marks from John Constantine

[@Littlefire5]

@@ObsidianChill Hi Obsidian, ty for fast reply. i looked 3x at the John vendor and this artifact is not there. My chatacter is 326 cr and i have legendary membership. i might have accidently fed it to another artifact/deleted it but still i can buy it again n again from the vendor right?

[@ObsidianChill]

@@Littlefire5 yes even if you feed it in it'll still be there. Maybe try the vendor in Wonderverse. I can't remember cause it was day 1 when I bought all 3 for the feat exactly which vendor it was one. But you can 100% always rebuy them

[@MrMack49]

Its good be a lot of dead DPSs crying abt not getting the heals from healers...SB chaser look for DMG not completion

[@StillTimeInc]

Been playing dc since it first came out on disc but I will not play anymore until they bring out more powers & make pvp exciting again

[@kendallfleming5858]

15 powers is pretty cast but I'm with you 100% on how they abandoned PvP, WE LOST A LOT OF THR COMMUNITY when they killed PVP.

[@StillTimeInc]

Kendall Fleming yeah we got 15 but they never gave us syrums (the bane power) & it’s been years since we seen a new one

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@StillTimeInc Yes, the Serums power was something I was looking forward to as a Tank power, I won't lie about that one. I remeber that announcement sometime in August of 2014. Once SoE sold DC to Daybreak I knew that wasn't happening. Daybreak felt powers don't make them money. You're definitely not wrong there at all. Yes it's been 3 years since another power set has released. I get you. I just thought 15 would carry for a while, but I did want to run Serum. Yet, the PVP abandonment was certainly a big killer of the community

[@StillTimeInc]

Kendall Fleming Fr it’s like what can we even do . We make videos an tell them all this but they still don’t change shit🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@StillTimeInc I know....when you're right.....you're right

[@ckacka2166]

This is the fastest way to put a wedge between healers and dps. Gonna see alot of "ill heal if nobody is running ammy"

[@Trxeko]

I put it on my rage dps

[@emeraldknight4475]

Tbh this art is not a good one at all, regardless for its dmg I can see healers getting annoyed plus I don’t see this being used in alerts to its full ability will be interesting to see

[@MrMack49]

Best way I always said to test these artifacts at its peak is to do raids...testing on dummy's are a waste of time...we need to kw is they really effective or not...best way is the raids... Hey chill is nobody running raids on test for this episode or what...I all I see solo open world...not one raid

[@ObsidianChill]

test server has

[@magusxxx]

I think they said they were changing the test dummies so they no longer gave back health. That way you could use it to test this artifact.

[@ObsidianChill]

@@magusxxx yes, the sparring targets only give back power now, which is fine because that is what is actually needed to test rotations not health.

[@MrMack49]

@@magusxxx Im talking abt how it works in a raid...as I clearly stated...best way to kw how effective they are is to put them in a setting that are needed to be used in...

[@adamwales2879]

I’ve been struggling a bit just got back on the game last play in 2016 I’m a fire dps which artifacts do you recommend?

[@ObsidianChill]

trans-strat-solar

[@adamwales2879]

ObsidianChillDCUO Thank you!

[@CheshireReinaDrDre]

So it turns you into a dark knight ? Why would I pay to kill myself?

[@peterleeds94]

Is controller role getting a new artefact?

[@inkXIV]

No

[@jahj316]

Pvp artifact...that's what is gonna be best for

[@Knotheadsammy]

Yeah im good on this artifact lol

[@christopherdizon8497]

This artifact is a big no no your doin it in a sparring target that don’t dish out damage if u on a content you’ll die a lot with boss damage aoe damage plus the damage u takin from the suicide artifact plus not to mention stress on the healer and like u said priority heal from the tank u stealin , anyways luv all your content more power be safe.

[@ObsidianChill]

its certainly a high risk artifact, not made for pugs or elite

[@erikgarcia986]

No entiendo ni verga que dice

[@pastoryoda2789]

i better not see anyone running this Shiiieeettt in elite raids

[@ObsidianChill]

hopefully not :D

[@Tupapa2k]

THAT art is sht....heal priority is the tank not dps¡!¡!¡!¡

[@kendallfleming5858]

For the most part, yes, it won't get an inv to many dinner tables, yet, for Muni, Rage, HL and Fire you can get away with this but will be annoying over all

[@solareiusdeiu]

battle tank need this artifact ;)

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@solareiusdeiu After Live, it's actually pretty good, not for all dps's like atomic. Battle tank it works on Atomic, Earth is problematic because you end up killing Brick. After shock wise you need crazy health

[@solareiusdeiu]

@@kendallfleming5858 rage battle tank might and health spec ;) it works but not really better than strat or trans in fact

[@kendallfleming5858]

@@solareiusdeiu You're correct, it doesn't, the 50% health nerf to the Tank side makes it not worth it. You're certainly correct. I tested it on my Earth. Atomic Tank you can do it with high health or a dom buff soder to get better self heals and rage Tank you can and maybe, fire?

[@pdg90]

Healers are not gonna like people using this artifact

[@8sr]

We're gonna love it, its gonna make us look like were actually doing somthing

[@parya536]

I still didn't watch video. can you tell me why you said that?

[@ObsidianChill]

Leap of Samet increased heal numbers on the board because you constantly heal due to the dps, so you can’t put out a bunch of hots and sit around until someone takes dmg etc

[@pdg90]

Leap of Samet no! Why wouldn’t you watch the video 1st!? OC puts in a lot of work making these videos. C’mon man!

[@parya536]

@@pdg90 I'm at job right now. I'll watch when I take a Break

[@darkmugetsu6572]

What a piece of shit, I would hate people that used this artifact as a 200 rank claw troll, I got my vit and the BOP Commlink to 200 to balance out the inability to give power freely outside of POT and have been doing fine in even elite raids and then this fucking shit artifact gotta come out to stress our healers out then that would stress us trolls out.