De Tomaso Pantera Gr. 4 Race Car: Cleveland V8 Sound on hillclimb!

[@6AL-4V]

My dad and his friend bought a couple of these back in the 70’s. My dad’s was yellow and the other was green, right off the Ford dealership floor. He would take me to grade school in it and the kids crowded around as I got out. Pretty cool memories I’ll never forget.

[@hipcat13]

I picked my son up from grade school in one. He said that when I pulled up before class was out the whole class crowded around the windows to see what was rumbling up the drive.

[@alainbellemare2779]

my dad had a big ford galaxie 500 with the same engine , but twice the weight

[@fergusodoherty-gy7wt]

my dad was trying to impress me with a pop up top VW camper and fishing poles. So, me and my dad parted company years ago. I've owned Ratrods, Torino, Stingray, 911's, 55 Chevy's, 442's and now I'm looking at Panteras. ​@@hipcat13

[@marcust510]

I noticed two things. 1) the person can drive! Some serious skill behind that wheel. And 2) the car is set up fantastically 🙌🏽. You can see in the way it moves through the corners & in the way it soaks up bumps nicely. Damn thing was on rails! Side note: I love the Panteras. Such a beautiful car.

[@AndrewCrankypants]

He was working his ass off rustling that around the bends. Such a massive contact patch and no power steering. Phew.

[@cs512tr]

100% he can drive and absolutely perfect setup

[@d3fj4m1]

Love the sound when it is engine braking.

[@ohwell118]

Gives off that same feeling hearing a wolf snarling in your ear

[@bradleyfountaine]

Glorious overrun

[@boddysurfer]

Backfire, Italian style.

[@Zubatec]

Pantera and Guara will always have a piece of my heart.. From Czech Republic with love 🙋‍♂️

[@john90430]

THIS is what a car is supposed to sound like. No whooshing turbo pop-off valves. No firecrackers from the exhaust on over-run. No gun-shots when changing gears. Just a nice, naturally aspirated V8, eating up asphalt. Those were the days!

[@KE8UYV]

Love the sound of a 351!

[@michaelhall736]

While I have no issues with racecars like that it's always nice to see a simple classic like this.

[@rushyg1006]

Agreed💯💯

[@Amr_lotfy]

❤❤❤

[@TheEldenLord_]

Nah

[@NekoPufferPPP]

One of the best sounding cars in the world, second only to the LFA's V10. I've got a tear in my eye...

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

100% agree. My dad has a Pantera, Ferrari and a Porsche. The Pantera always sounded badass. When we replaced a 70 SS Camaro muffler onto the 308GTB, it was a close second to the Pantera. The Group 4 fenders were the best looking modifications to the original design.

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

Eddy Jean They all had 351 Cleveland’s. I should know, as a kid I road in one all the time.

[@jangabrielreyes4754]

Is this crossplane ?

[@vnitto]

You sir, have good taste! Add a Ferrari 355 with Tubi exhaust to the list :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqekdGmslq97rrc&ab_channel=DtRockstar1

[@rod928s4]

@@jangabrielreyes4754 Yes

[@descent815]

One of my all time favorite cars! Car is so BEAUTIFUL!

[@doughale1555]

Agreed, this and the GT40 are the best two looking cars EVER

[@Tactix_se]

This is, in no exaggeration, one of the meanest sounding V8’s in existence

[@alainbellemare2779]

check out the lemans nascar Camaro ,

[@jmfjcas6014]

no any electronic toys , no plastic , only man and real machine... with proper sound

[@v.e.7236]

The 351C in my '67 Mustang never sounded like this one!?! Type of headers really makes a difference. I was running 1 3/4" Hooker headers and this guy is running something entirely different. Would love to get a peek under the hood.

[@rossvoorheis2391]

This car probably runs 11.1:1 or higher pistons on race gas. That's why it sounds so much different. The headers certainly make a difference as well; I believe this car has true quad exhaust.

[@wrxelectra]

Pretty sure he is running 180 degree headers like they did in the gt40's give a unique sound. They take 2 exhaust from the right bank and join them at the merge collector with 2 from the left and visa versa. Have a look on google for Fords bundle of snakes.

[@garageyoyodyne9079]

It sounds like a TVR V8. Flat plane crankshaft ? The bundle of snakes exhaust system solves scavenging problem on engine born with a crossplane crankshaft in it.

[@KingJerbear]

My old boss had one of these in bright yellow, I remember the width of the rear tires blew my mind at the time.

[@DasE30Cuz]

They absolutely look better without the wing.

[@meatwad3000]

Thats what a V8 should sound like. 😊

[@colehara]

That engine sound! 👍👍👍

[@mosca3289]

Awesome road

[@allanpolk2681]

That is some sweet talkin Cleveland right there now. And it’s wrapped up in what is arguably one of the most beautiful sports cars of all time. It would be nice if they would start making these cars again, maybe with a coyote engine. I break out in a cold sweat just thinking about it.

[@MJFLIX]

I’d love to see a new Pantera 😍

[@Paul-yw7bf]

De Tomaso came out with another car called the P72...it’s gorgeous.

[@MJFLIX]

@@Paul-yw7bf just checked it out...looks great reminds me of hardcastle and mccormick but i love the sharp lines on the pantera more and ofcourse that roaring engine.

[@jareknowak8712]

@@MJFLIX yes, new Pantera is exeptionally beautiful :)

[@Paul-yw7bf]

Mj Flix completely agree. My first car was a 87’ 944 and the lines were perfect. Can’t wait for the Porsche market to drop so I can pick up another one (he says naively).

[@UnknownArtist994]

Madness!!!😍😍😍😍

[@amastone31]

I like De Tomaso Pantera 👍.. Like the sound of the V8... 😲

[@elvine2149]

This car with the pop up headlight off looks like scary monster but with the pop up headlight on, it looks so cute. I love this car.

[@michaelhall736]

If that ain't one of the most awesome sounding racecars I've ever heard.

[@mickodillon1480]

Awesome

[@doughale1555]

IMO best two looking cars ever, the Pantera and the GT40

[@rj9617]

Love that car!

[@Chris-hz6bg]

What a machine 😍

[@lanceevans3443]

Just glorious

[@hauntedhose]

I could listen all day 🙋‍♂️

[@emanuellucena7306]

Beast

[@zachcd390119]

Such an awesome race car

[@jareknowak8712]

Poormans Miura. And i love it!

[@williamcallihoe501]

One of the top 20 IMO in design alone...... just gorgeous.

[@doughale1555]

This and the GT40 are THE top two

[@fazeobama8872]

sickkkk

[@62novalis]

what a sound🥰😍🥰

[@terraboundmisfit]

Truly the BAAD boy on the block!!!

[@UmpaX2]

2:01 - 2:11 Spectacular!

[@池崎俊夫]

De Tomaso Pantera Best engine ＆ Cool form

[@lyrooo326]

Beautiful.❤

[@rikwarren3999]

what beautiful cars

[@sebastiaoverissimodasilva9852]

As Máquinas Velozes,Adrenalina Pura,os Aplausos muitos Aplausos .

[@cristianmontanari2299]

Alejandro de tomado fué un empresario argentino que abrió su fábrica en Italia. Ese pantera lleva los colores de la bandera de Argentina celeste y blanca.

[@chiptmcc8656]

Yowzaaaaa!!!! The Bozzer with a doozy!

[@d-d-i]

180 degree headers ? Sounds wonderful, almost like inline 4 engine.

[@jortepap]

I don't like the tone

[@d-d-i]

Yea, I wanted to know your opinion.

[@frankmcgorman962]

It didn't sound like a typical 351 at speed, but it had the usual burble when it was idling back down the course. Special tuning on the exhaust, as you said?

[@d-d-i]

@@frankmcgorman962 Apparrently, it has straight pipes when I searched info about it.

[@daedalus_20v]

This is the sound of 180º headers, yes. It has straight pipes too, I'm sure, meaning no mufflers, but the sound is unmistakably 180º headers.

[@JDStoneCreations]

Well that sounds... interesting. Definitely modified, sounds like a flat plane crank to me! Like a Lotus Esprit V8 but without any turbos or silencing at all! The Mangusta and other Pantera's you filmed sound sooooo much better.

[@g3n3sis50]

Thank you for noticing! I thought I heard a flat plane too!

[@cecilwilson5442]

It is great to hear and see such great events, as here we have motorcycle racing on the road but not so much for cars,, especially really specialised types from Northern Ireland thank you ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️👍👍👍👍

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

I got crapped on by a Pantera back in the 70s I was in my mostly stock 1970 SS 396 Chevelle....He walked me.

[@jimclarke1108]

Still a great looking sports car today, plenty designs out there

[@stevejovanovic1591]

The ford v8 s sound the best 🤙

[@pacovl46]

Is this a flat plane V8 because it sure as hell doesn’t sound like a cross plane V8 under power?

[@Furtivo95]

I feel like the sound of the Pantera is gonna break my TV.

[@cheytactical]

ITS ALL OVER MY SCREEN

[@Uni-Ver-Sun]

🔊🤩👌

[@user-ys9to2ie7k]

OK, can we all agree that it is probably the 351 Cleveland?! I'm not complaining! It was the same engine as a 351 boss and that was just a great car. But, what if it had the all-aluminum, 4 valve, dual overhead cam 5.0 or maybe in the 4.6 or I even heard of something about a 5.4, nevertheless that engine in that Pantera?!! And I'm talking about the one that red lines at 9000 RPM! The only thing that would make that car better at the very least is an aluminum body, but now I'm just dreaming! That's why we have the Ford GT40, the AC Cobra and the Daytona!

[@jayc3110]

Thanks, it would have been nice if you had posted the results in your description. Best wishes/

[@andi-ih3jj]

Wow KZbin you had to do this to me: zack i am back in nineteen seventy five just gotten into into seventh grade and there is a new classmate joining our class. I am the only one with a free seat next to him so I get to sit next to the new kid . we make friends more or less than walk outside at lunchtime because in Germany School used to end then for the day and his dad is supposed to pick him up And than his dad shows up in a Pantera GTS dark blue - white stripe ........ and I had thought my parents brand new Audi 100 C1was cool. Gottverdammte Scheisse :-() So we two young ones squashed in the seat and I got a lift home that day. Since then the Pantera has always been one of my five most favorite cars ever!

[@roddycreswell8613]

I wish i was behind the wheel!

[@koni6678]

In car footage?

[@19Bozzy92]

No, I'm sorry but at this event I was unable to do any on-board footage. But if you search for 'Giuliano Palmieri Pantera' you should find some on board footage from other hillclimb races ;)

[@TheGtracer1994]

shiiiiiiiit that’s nice

[@enricocelani8292]

Una domanda per i più esperti: questo V8 è un Ford con albero a gomiti ruotato a 90 gradi, mentre a sentirlo sembra che ha un albero motore ruotato a 180 gradi. A Vallelunga tempo fa lo chiesi a un meccanico e mi disse che era dovuto ad un incrocio particolare degli scarichi. Possibile questa cosa? Grazie!

[@19Bozzy92]

Ciao Enrico, bellissima domanda. Onestamente non saprei risponderti correttamente, perchè non sono tra i più esperti, ma ho visto che tra gli altri commenti qua sotto qualcuno chiede se la macchina abbia dei collettori a 180° per fare questo suono. Quindi sicuramente c'è qualcosa negli incroci/curve/struttura dello scarico che ne modifica il sound

[@enricocelani8292]

@@19Bozzy92 questa storia mi intriga sempre di più. Spero che un giorno saprò esattamente come stanno le cose perché è forte la mia curiosità. Comunque grazie mille per la gentilissima risposta. 👍

[@dominiontheory]

The cameraman must've had to run super fast to get all those shots!

[@TheFluffyWendigo]

Crazy how exotic it sounds given it’s a Ford V8 🧐

[@nicomeier8098]

Almost sounds like a Lola T70.

[@coolhand1964]

It's a bit like watching the original opening credits for the movie 'The Italian Job'.

[@latvdeivespistibypozzipres90]

Che musica ragazzi!!!

[@Lyle_918]

You'll never get the same buzz to the bones from a EV as you get from a naturally aspirated V8.

[@chrismoody1342]

I haven’t see a Pantera since 1973.

[@aldostefanini1392]

Also one of Marcello Ghandini's best designs at BERTONE

[@georgebettiol8338]

The De Tomaso Pantera's designer was the US born Tom Tjaarda who at the time worked at Ghia.

[@aldostefanini1392]

@@georgebettiol8338 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Tomaso_Pantera . Marcello also had his hands on it. Thanks for the extra info

[@georgebettiol8338]

@@aldostefanini1392 Marcello Gandini was engaged by de Tomaso in 1990, some 20 years after the original was designed, to provide an update. It resulted in the Pantera 90 Si that incorporated a huge rear wing - which in my opinion (others are free to disagree) wasn't his best work.

[@italianduded1161]

yo... love the car but, why the slash on the Italian flag ): Still love the video tho XD De Tomaso Pantera is one of my fav cars!

[@georgebettiol8338]

It's probably a 'reference' to Alejandro de Tomaso who was born in Argentina - hence the colour scheme of the car.

[@kailon_br7841]

the car is amazing but why does it sounds more like an inline 4 than a 8 cylinder, i dont know why some panteras have a weird 4 cilinder sound and others are like proper v8 rumble

[@todeotodeo140]

It sounds similar to a Ferrari V8 because it has a different crank. The firing order was changed. That is why it doesn't sound like the typical American muscle V8

[@italianduded1161]

🇮🇹❤️

[@sinaruma6106]

I think whether this is true or not, I think the car is very fast at low rpm sounds I've never seen a race car like this before

[@greatcolor]

The 351C's in all of these are Aussie made

[@deanstevenson6527]

greatcolor : Only some GC. The first 1971 to 1976 were Detriot Cleveland Plant , then international supply by Ford USAs stockpile for a time After that was exhausted, then the all deTomasos used a Swiss Supplier ( Monteverdis company) to build standard or modified US or Austrailan sourced engines. Ford Australia then supplied Detriots racing division for NASCAR and replacement Motorsport SVO engines. Holman Moody got preference. For the US and Australian market, both an Ohio firm and the Aussie Toyshop used DSO coded engines from theAustralian 162 Kw F150/250/350/ Bronco 351C. So majority were all US engines...even in the 1970 to 1975 Australian ĢT Falcons, the majority were US import blocks. Only after the second attempt at getting the tooling from Cleveland to Geelong ( a Caterpiller bulldozer damaged the tooling in high seas the first sail) did the Broadmedows team commision 100% Australian blocks and heads in early 1976. So all 1971 to 1977 cars were originally US Clevelands, after that, only 200 a year of Geelong made engines were exported. Down graded 2V heads are a tell tale, but not always. Love these old Modena machines. Heart and soul of pure Italian passion. Even if deTomaso was ex Argentina, his family heritage was Italian. Its a legitimate car with out a bad ancestory because he was such a smart man to aviod the troubles Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari, Alfa Romeo and Lancia suffered when trying to make exclusive exotics. Without the Swiss, Fiat or Ford, few of would have survived the turbulent 60s and 70s.

[@georgebettiol8338]

@@deanstevenson6527 Ferrucio Lamborghini was no fool and when sales of his cars plunged in the wake of the 1973 worldwide financial down turn and the oil crisis - he sold out. Ferruccio Lamborghini sold ownership of the company to Georges-Henri Rossetti and René Leimer and retired in 1974 - on the cusp of the Countach's release.

[@skipsterz]

Hmmm this engine sound or a Porsche flat 12. Hard choice.

[@highstepperARF]

Money! 2:00

[@HardlineSoul]

" I think it moved! "

[@Zzrdemon6633]

Just clarify we are Not going to see hammond crash!

[@gastonborraccetti7318]

Madera in Argentina

[@alainbellemare2779]

pretty girl with a roar

[@RedLP5000S]

She's a smoker, but a really beautiful smoker nonetheless.

[@BearAmps]

dudes scared of the midrange hit, too much gas pedal shake on that right foot causing shudder, push thru it dude

[@gastonborraccetti7318]

Made in Argentina

[@DrRock2009]

Doesn’t sound like a V8 🤷‍♂️ Sounds like a 4pot rally car 😡

[@cam620]

I love that car. It convince me that i hate electric cars.

[@joemamma98723]

Release the Kraken!