My brother worked at Gulf when they raced the Mirage-Ford which won Le Mans in 1975. He used to find bits of scrap from the 917s such as cooling pipes and I used to bolt them onto my moped. I had the only Porsche 917 Raleigh moped in the world :-)
@catboi78714 жыл бұрын
Legend
@3wGaming4 жыл бұрын
post a video on how it sounds
@probablygraham4 жыл бұрын
@@3wGaming - sadly it was scrapped about 40 years ago! It sounded pretty good though. My brother shaved 20 thou off the cylinder head and I put a different jet on the carburettor, and I took the baffles out of the exhaust. It used to go for about 5 miles and then the engine woul get so hot that it boiled the fuel in the carb and I had to wait about 10 minutes for it to cool down :-)
@barfuss20073 жыл бұрын
lol
@constantin55733 жыл бұрын
Today on : „Things That Never happened“
@karlphilipp92733 жыл бұрын
The 917 was voted the greatest race car of the 20th century. It was so ahead of its time, nothing surpassed it for 40 years I would love to drive one before I leave this earth but I know that will never happen. Porsche oh, there is no substitute!
@nicolaasjansevanrensburg754311 ай бұрын
And that sound mmmm-/12- fully agree- the "car " was/ is the Best
@glennborrageiro625710 ай бұрын
When Ferrari got their arse truly kicked and ran away forever
@glennborrageiro625710 ай бұрын
Nothing like it.!!!
@imtheonevanhalen155722 күн бұрын
If this is gong fast?.....the cat was off the gas most of the time......guess it's telling of the competition back in the day (and it's ugly as F**K....)
@cdawson1986003 жыл бұрын
The 917 should have a red carpet rolled out every time one shows itself, it’s a legend.
@geedubb-q1u Жыл бұрын
Quite possibly the greatest and scariest race car ever built, when Mulsanne was straight.
@45eno3 жыл бұрын
2:00 Mad respect. 2 people in one place recording video horizontally. Simply amazing...
@martinzoellner61154 жыл бұрын
When I was a little boy, i've seen these 917 Porsches in real. Nowadays these videos make me feel a young boy again. ...makes me happy. By the way....they were the most angry cars in the 70 ties .
@joshuagabrielcatindig76074 жыл бұрын
I've encountered this thing in a PS1 game aptly named Need For Speed: Porsche unleashed.
@michagrill94323 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 ive encountered them on classic days in real life. Hella loud and brutal
@joshuagabrielcatindig76073 жыл бұрын
@@michagrill9432 lucky! Me, a boi from a third world country can only possibly have that in my wildest dreams.
@davidroynewby2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagabrielcatindig7607 when you wish upon a Star, dreams can come true! I got my son that game for PS1 in the Philippines. 🇵🇭👍
@lynnshowalter18424 жыл бұрын
The Porsche 917 was a living Demon! The greatest road car EVER
@paccin3394 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, but its a race car, no normal roads for her
@stefanoquerro6123 жыл бұрын
@@paccin339 unfortunately😂
@brodiebramwell-johnson47793 жыл бұрын
@@paccin339 there were a few cases of them driven on the road. But yeah definitely a race car. There is a famous pic of one with a 911 muffler attached so it could be driven across Europe in the 70’s
@a_d_a_mt_i_g_g_y30073 жыл бұрын
A couple of European countries have allowed them to be road legal through a loophole. There’s one down in Monaco!
@theguywhoisaustralian14653 жыл бұрын
@@a_d_a_mt_i_g_g_y3007 I always wanted them to make a civilian version like with the Ford GT
@reginaldfitzpatrick86814 жыл бұрын
Much respect for using such a rare and valuable automobile for what it was made for. Not letting it sit in some private collection gathering dust.
@ThatGuyErazo4 жыл бұрын
Even though there are so many awesome Old School Racers, that 917 just stands out among them! Legendary Race Car!
@sablefisher4 жыл бұрын
Enzo Ferrari was reported to have said, that he was glad there were no races longer than 24 hours since Porsches would be the only ones running at the end if there were
@christianliesche59173 жыл бұрын
If you can understand german, then the podcast with Willi Kauhsen may be interessting; he reportet from a race over 84 hours ;) It was a duability race over 10.000km, driven on the Nordschleife ;) and yes, Porsche won ;)
@doogalloonni Жыл бұрын
The most beautiful car ever. Always my favorite- always will be!
@lesshrubb2034 жыл бұрын
I loved this car ever since Steve McQueen drove it in the film Le Mans in the early 70’s. What a beast!
@marktime92353 жыл бұрын
Likewise. My favourite racing car of all time. Closely followed by Sebastien Loeb's trip up Pikes Peak in the ridiclous Peugot 208 T16 kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoPQhXiOm72dh7M
@tomasvanecek8626 Жыл бұрын
He drove some of it.. but mostly the famous shots were made with Lola dressed up like 917 (the crash the up hill after Arnage, e.g..) They never wrecked a genuine 917 in the movie. Also, the sounds of the engine were not 917 at all, it was all the 908 of the movie crew.
@DiaboloXXXVI Жыл бұрын
McQueen never drove a original 917! Herbert Linge ( Porschewerksfahrer ) drove it!
@renaultgerard3097Ай бұрын
@@DiaboloXXXVI Vous etre sur de ca ! J'étais figurant et j'ai vu Steve mc Queen conduire une Gulf 917 et faire le tour du circuit avec son fils
@terrystevens5261Ай бұрын
Lange.
@ghostshades4 жыл бұрын
At the porsche museum in Zuffenhausen, while a friend of mine was doing a photoshoot, I was walking around with a visitors headset listening to the stories behind various old Porsches. I knew of the 917K, but I had never really heard its engine sound properly. When I got to hear it, I maxed the volume and could do nothing about the tears of joy running down my cheeks. Angels wailing!
@fruitygranulizer5408 ай бұрын
coolest racecar ever made. the styling is sublime, the livery is sublime, the sound is sublime, its track record is sublime, and it's one of the most unique cars ever made.
@shb8124 Жыл бұрын
No doubt still my favourite racing car ever they're just gorgeous especially in the Gulf and 'hippy' liveries. Absolutely iconic cars.
@sunnyjay13 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Its always SO nice to just hear the cars! Today's announcers have gotten too full of themselves and never shut up unlike the good ol' Speed Channel guys, who knew we would rather hear the cars and racing than their "brilliant" insights ;)
@davem53333 жыл бұрын
They must have taken 'How To Be Bad ' lessons from airshow announcers. They are the worst.
@MrRockzilla86 Жыл бұрын
Well said, miss Speed Channel.
@vernondunlea7080 Жыл бұрын
You just couldn't beat Mr Murray walker for his commentating even though he did make a few bloomers but no one can ever take his place for commentating rest in peace Mr Murray walker ( HUURY TALKER )LOL ❤❤❤❤❤
@vernonspady555 Жыл бұрын
That sound is FEROCIOUS.
@docskate43124 жыл бұрын
Probably the most brutal racecar ever built.
@NormAppleton3 жыл бұрын
No, that's its child. This thing is totally evil 917/30 www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a25938213/porsche-917-30-can-am-spyder-sound/
@trance9158 Жыл бұрын
The greatest race cars of all time ..love the 917 and everything Porsche.
@Karimsatta5 ай бұрын
Fantastic car! The way it passes the Porsche 911 with so much ease at 4:20 is amazing!
@42lookc4 жыл бұрын
It is hard to believe that such a low, wide, stupendously FAST, huge-tired car as the 917, is half a century old. It's just a mechanical monster. I doubt any high end street legal car built today could touch it on the track all these years of technological development later.
@EdBert3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that too, but they could run the 24h with little chance of breakdown.
@samtabor18243 жыл бұрын
Not rlly true new suspension, tires, and specifically aerodynamics has made cars a LOT faster then before
@hanzen51742 жыл бұрын
probably not if the 917 had a dual clutch gearbox
@HerrZenki Жыл бұрын
As much as I love the porsche 917 and the race cars during that time, today's technological advancements have made the cars much faster. Heck, today's lmp3 cars are as fast as the group c cars of the 80's
@alastairrobinson7533Ай бұрын
@@HerrZenki and your point is?
@joegoncalves2496 Жыл бұрын
Wow the symphony of engine music is amazing, but nothing beats that flat 12 though at full clip! Beautiful!
@r.blacky341 Жыл бұрын
No other racing car looks better and no other car have a better brutal Sound like that best racing car ever build!! PORSCHE 917!!
@Ben-mt6gj3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to witness the victories at the Spa 1000 km in '70 with Siffert/Redman and '71 with Rodrguez/Oliver in just over 4 hours ! And I will never forget the 1970 start from the Radaillon grandstand with Siffert and Rodroguez side by side...
@TheBlaert4 жыл бұрын
These are for sure one of the top 3 best sounding race cars of all time
@daleskidmore16854 жыл бұрын
When I went to Spa, walking into the circuit I got the impression that Au Rouge was a cliff. The camera never seems to do it justice. The cars are fabulous.
@pistolpete61147 ай бұрын
Looking at these cars takes me back to the Speed Racer cartoon days with Speed, Tribe, Pops, Chim Chim, Spridle and Racer X.
@wordreet3 жыл бұрын
My favourite Le-Mans car of all time. It looked mad with that stubby cut off tail and what an absolute beast! Also, I've loved the Gulf colours ever since.
@DAZ6155117 күн бұрын
That sound brings back memories. Used to go to “The Glen” for the Can-Am races.
@vernondunlea7080 Жыл бұрын
These are my favourite all time race cars the porsche 917k I love them in the gulf mirage race colours the colour scheme suites the car perfectly
@Tubesmaney Жыл бұрын
Nothing sounds like those 917s. So much power! Thanks for the vid!
@edgarschuermer17454 жыл бұрын
I saw them race in anger in the day. It still gives me goose bumps. It gives Geese Goose Bumps !!!
@aurktman11064 жыл бұрын
Edgar Schuermer more like Spruce Goose sized Bumps.
@drjimjam11123 жыл бұрын
Saw’m at Daytona and Sebring back in the day. Yikes, what a magnificent sound!
@stephen300o63 жыл бұрын
To be fair, geese are born with goose bumps, hence the name.
@RickyJr46 Жыл бұрын
Big respect to the driver who really puts his boot into a 917.
@mariapires71703 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful and iconic racingcar car ever! Period!
@jamesunger84334 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful brilliant and exhilarating race car ever...the fabulous Porsche 917k!
@ForzaScuderia-17 ай бұрын
This car is so underrated, It has been my favorite car since 7
@millbartwikipedia99254 ай бұрын
Underrated. Not again... 😂
@mothman62644 жыл бұрын
Bruh wtf I’m getting emotional over an exhaust note
@LarsMarsCars4 жыл бұрын
I feel ya. Been there, done that. lol. You should hear it on the main straight in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4erZGB_hJl9rsU
@williamstreet430410 ай бұрын
And that's a problem? We don't get those any longer.
@georgemallory7974 жыл бұрын
I have always been in love with the Ford GT-40 and thought it was the prettiest of them all, but seeing this 917 makes me believe it's a tie.
@suzyjohnson46674 жыл бұрын
917 a close second to the Ford GT
@tomupchurch4911 Жыл бұрын
Firestone decals on the trailing edge and it's shod with Avons. The car looks like it did back in the day but it'll come home safe. Good video and sound.
@andynixon28204 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a 917 in reality I couldn't believe how tiny they are . On film and in pictures they seem much bigger , it's the same with the contemporary Ferrari 512 .
@Stanimal624 жыл бұрын
Andy Nixon I thought the exact same thing the first time I saw a Champ Car in person, it was all engine and wheels. It made it that much more amazing the crashes that these guys had and walked away from.
@23GreyFox4 жыл бұрын
@@Stanimal62 Or died in it.
@The-General363 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Ford GT 40 , named so because it was only 40” high 🥴
@sqmotorsports92303 жыл бұрын
Notice how the roof is at the bottom of a 911 window
@kcsnow94473 жыл бұрын
IMO a big reason the old Porsche cars have a sound unlike any other is that they were air-cooled, not surrounded by a water jacket. All engine sounds will reflect back off hard objects, like concrete walls, etc., but the 917 carries around with it its own unique and unrivaled echo chamber. As I said, a sound unlike any other. You can hear it coming a long way out, and after it leaves, that echo lingers long in your ears, in your mind and in your soul.
@ralphaverill20014 жыл бұрын
From what I've read, the 917 has to be driven hard. The flat 12 can only operate at or near red line. In other words, put your foot to the floor and leave it there. Just what I've read. Whatever is true, the Porsche 917 is probably a most intimidating, scary sports car to drive ever made.
@dogworlddaycare4 жыл бұрын
Your feet are in front of the front wheels.... a little scary at 250mph. One driver I talked to said the car was "quite comfortable" at 250, but a handful at anything less.
@ganjaman596504 жыл бұрын
Just looking at how slow it is to build speed at the beginning you maybe right.
@xGT40x4 жыл бұрын
You are probably reading about the peak BHP being at the top of the rev range
@sam_s_4 жыл бұрын
@@dogworlddaycare You mean 250km, right?
@celtisafricana49844 жыл бұрын
@@sam_s_ I'm betting on miles
@sum12see23 күн бұрын
That car was a true inspiration to later model cars..The sound and performance of those Porsche vehicles is legendary!!
@gabethomas81234 жыл бұрын
Might be the best exhaust note of all time! Oh god, the downshifts...
@rauschi38634 жыл бұрын
"A car for Men, not for Boys" (Walter Röhrl). Very difficult to drive.
@craigpennington12516 ай бұрын
917: One of the best sounds on the planet bar none.
@jupitermoongauge40553 жыл бұрын
A great car from by far the greatest era of motor racing
@driss4160 Жыл бұрын
Quel son et quelle beauté, une oeuvre d'art.
@Porsche996driver4 жыл бұрын
Went to the Porsche Reunion at Laguna Seca a few years ago. Brian Redman was whipping one of those sideways through the Corkscrew!! I was able to hang out with him later and he was like “oh I don’t know was I moving pretty good?!” He was in his 70s and having a total blast! 🏁
@patrickcarrollconstruction381325 күн бұрын
I had the wonderful opportunity to see several 917's at rensport 5 ( a car I've loved since I was a little boy) this car is a master class in engineering . witness them while you can! you'll be blown away.
@iainholmes27354 жыл бұрын
That car is a beauty and a beast in one machine!
@UberLummox4 жыл бұрын
Big bore V-8s sounds just as dreamy to me, but I'm just glad to hear ANY engine without those lame rev limiters interrupting the beautiful music! Thanks for the video!
@DelSanchezIII3 жыл бұрын
Thanks the the video, outstanding! My favourite race car, especially in that livery. The word 'awesome' is overused these days, but for the 917, it's more than apt!
@djwaltoaram70525 жыл бұрын
My absolute favourite racecar even better than the 919!
@MyKillkiller5 жыл бұрын
DJ WÁLTÓÁRAM I ABSOLUTELY agree with you :)
@roknroller60525 жыл бұрын
Definitely, Though I would also include the 956 incredible race car...
@larryb41294 жыл бұрын
@@roknroller6052 the direct decendent of the 917 in my opinion both cars absolutely iconic and incredible
@zkechplays20774 жыл бұрын
All of them 956 are still pure fastest car and not like 919 use electric to beat the unbreakable 35 years record by porsche 956 in nurburgring
@wellwellwelljew2714 жыл бұрын
@@zkechplays2077 yeah, electric motors is cheating.
@tonychavez2083 Жыл бұрын
Man that 917 has long legs and excellent top end speed
@sadwingsraging30444 жыл бұрын
That car is the beast that changed racetracks around the world. I wonder what it cost to put a fresh set of rubbers under her? Props to the owner for grabbing her by the steering wheel and yanking on her like the bad girl she likes to be. I can think of a billion worse ways to spend money than buying and running such a historic car. Well done sir.
@Trucker19575 жыл бұрын
The 917 passes everything in sight.
@Patmofar4 жыл бұрын
Part of its homologation with the FIA was that It had to be road legal in its country of manufacture. That is why is has rear indicators (turn signals). Without exception all of them were right hand drive but the gear shift was still to the right of the driver. It carried a spare wheel (required to be road legal under German road traffic law). It recorded the fastest speed ever for a road legal car on a public road in Mulsanne, France in May 1971 driven by the flying Dutchman Gijs van Lennep. An astonishing 394 kph (244 mph). The road WAS closed to the public at the time. It was able to lap Spa Francorchamps in Belgium 11 seconds a lap faster than a Formula One car could. After two seasons where it won everything, 1970 and 1971 it was banned because it was too good and had no serious competition. It is simply the greatest car ever made.
@MalasNovas4 жыл бұрын
The Mulsanne it's the long straight of Le Mans!
@Patmofar4 жыл бұрын
@@MalasNovas Yes, I know that, but for most of the year it is a public road as the Le Mans track is not a permanent track. You can see this clearly in opening scenes of the great film 'Le Mans' starring the Porsche 917 with Steve McQueen in a supporting role.
@TheWilferch3 жыл бұрын
Not completely true....the car did not have to be "road legal" at all.....these were Group 5 "sports cars"....meaning it was built to the racing rules of the time, that forced a "minimum 25-count" production run, which....by the rules....made it a "production sports car" and not a pure racing car. This is what Porsche did.....took the "pure-racing only" , limited-production, 8 cylinder 908 model, with NO minimum build-quantity requirement ( limited to 3 liter engine size because it was a "race"-only car)....and essentially built a 12 cylinder engine from this and.....built 25 of the 917's , to make it a "production" car ( from the rules)..... that then allowed a 5 liter engine. It was all a "rules" game.....but there were no "road legal in the country of manufacture" stipulation. Yes, both 908, 917 and all other cars racing in the series had to be built to the "rules",....and the rules mandated the stuff you are talking about,.....headlights, turn signals, spare tire, wipers, etc. etc.....all simply the rules for Group 5 Sports cars and Group 6 Prototype cars....all "rules".
@Patmofar3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWilferch If what you say is true then why does the Ferrari 512 not have rear indicators or a spare wheel?
@TheWilferch3 жыл бұрын
@@Patmofar ...my photos show rear indicator lights, and I will presume a spare wheel too, as it was mandated by the rules, and as was set up at the time and enforced by the CSI.....for group 5 ("sports cars" with minimum production run of 25).
@mattcuddy8143 жыл бұрын
The car that ended the Can Am series. My Dad in his M8F said the 917 would go by him like he was standing still. Qualifying horsepower was somewhere above 1000 horses. Un beatable.
@sambrown6426 Жыл бұрын
Those ones were twin-turbo though, the endurance racing versions like the one shown here were NA.
@IAm1InTheIAm4 жыл бұрын
2:56 sure put a smile on my face, thanks!
@BobTex01 Жыл бұрын
A most exciting experience!. I did a grid walk at one of the Lone Star Le Man's at CotA. Standing next to the cars, the drivers was cool. I saw the Steve McQueen movie, Le Man's in 71. Been hooked since, the 917 was a/THE beast!!!
@Mbartel5009 ай бұрын
Mark Donohue could drive the 917-30 and get everything possible out of it. RIP Mark.
@declanthiele4 жыл бұрын
When you're so darn fast you get put in the back of the starting line and still pass every single car in the race
@No-vm7go4 жыл бұрын
Racer X.
@mickyzzzeee3 жыл бұрын
All of the cars being passed are GT cars not prototypes. They run multiple classes in enduros
@upsidedowndog12563 жыл бұрын
Truly classic cars on a truly classic circuit! Hard to go wrong.
@kendodd87343 жыл бұрын
Just a monster of a car dominated for so long back in the day still gives me goosebumps when I c it and hear it
@Phalanx11 Жыл бұрын
Best racing car ever. I saw them 2 years in a row at Sebring and Daytona. I was 12. My hero was Jackie Ickx. It was said that the 917k was so squirrely on the back stretch at Sebring going 240 mph that the other race cars wouldn't get near it.
@quigley66743 күн бұрын
I was intoxicated by that car when the movie LeMans was released. A decade later, I met Steve McQueen at the fuel pit in Santa Paula where he was learning to fly his Stearman and I was fueling my Pitts aerobatic plane. I always associate the 917K with Steve McQueen and his understated demeanor.
@stevebrzosko97933 ай бұрын
What a magnificent and gorgeous beast the Porsche 917 is!
@tobytoxd2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a line-up of historic cars!!
@designslave382 жыл бұрын
Which circuit is this? It looks like Spa Francorchamps...
@markzeidler51322 жыл бұрын
The all time unbeatable! Porsche there is no substitute.
@Jeffery-yo4vk25 күн бұрын
The Germans filled the chassis I believe with helium when welding it all together. What ingenious approach to a problem. Then it points to their take on things the clamp is as important as what the clamp is clamping. Haha. OK 5stars props salute 🫡 God bless everyone 🙏 😊
@jorgemeireles55499 ай бұрын
Fantastic car... sounds perfect !!! Nothing like analogic and mechanical old school cars ...
@Midge1kАй бұрын
My favorite WAS the GT40 but now I reconsidered . How could you not and it appears that driving it was as intense as the sound !
@petulantfrenzy55323 жыл бұрын
My first year to witness racing was in 1989 at Indianapolis, Fittipaldi screaming past me at 230 hit me hard. Such a soul grabbing sound. F1 sounded great then too. 917s are on my sweet list as well. Cars looked the part too. Manual Shifting. Way way better times...
@bosse-1760 Жыл бұрын
Every time I hear that thing fly by it puts a smile on my face
@B-A-L3 жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder why they keep spending millions every year on new cars when these beasts still exist!
@popeyeman694 жыл бұрын
The most audacious race car ever built. Frame i so light you have to pump it up with air to check for leaks. Drivers feet ahead of the front wheel centerline. Gotta LOVE it!!
@williamsporing15003 жыл бұрын
The golden age of endurence racing
@rsanford11962 жыл бұрын
Best sounding car ever!
@timmorris5664 жыл бұрын
917's are the Great White Shark of race cars
@glauciogv52253 жыл бұрын
Today I will sleep better, after listening this symphonic sound ! Listening in 2021
@kennethmurphy5534 Жыл бұрын
Top 5 beautiful race cars of all time
@MomentumEntFilms3 жыл бұрын
One word....Legendary
@marshja563 жыл бұрын
It looks hypersonic, futuristic, brutal and beautiful all at the same time.
@andrewalexander949211 ай бұрын
Hmmm, starts off in the 11th position, and is the first one around by a wide margin. (at least that's what it looks like from the video)
@Bobbyo603 жыл бұрын
What an absolute beast!!!!
@dalecomer59512 жыл бұрын
Well done video The great sound of the 917 was captured well.
@wolfgangscorpio41253 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised theren't two or three ambulances racing along the concours, like towards the end, making my smile even bigger. :-)
@Wolfdings3 жыл бұрын
Who ever was driving did a tremendous job! It almost seemed, as if the 917 was smiling :D
@HHIto3 жыл бұрын
It’s like a Messerchmidt BF-109F in a racing car!
@luizgorniack25903 жыл бұрын
Porsche Boss to the ingenieurs: built a beast. Ingenieurs: ok, here is the 917
@peterhburge4 жыл бұрын
I often see vintage autos like this 917 running today on Avons. I’m presuming they are one of few if not the only producer currently making these monsterously wide race capable tires. Can anyone confirm? Thx.
@AdamTheMan19934 жыл бұрын
Avon are the only tyre maker in the world that can make tyres to the original specification
@1218omaroo3 жыл бұрын
I love the family weekend Porches being absolutely ratted by the 917. What a machine.
@timbailey667 Жыл бұрын
What a monster of a machine
@deldridg3 жыл бұрын
Hair raising sounds! Thanks for the vid. What mechanical gods the 917s were.
@SmokeBurp3 жыл бұрын
My favorite car of all time
@JohnJohansen23 жыл бұрын
Years ago I read an article about a German, who converted a 917K into a road legal car. (It was pretty easy, in those days) He said that he really had to restrain himself, not to go 200+ between traffic lights in the cities.
@arthurteo811111 ай бұрын
Sports Cars were amazing in that era. This ended after Group C was forced out by the powers that be then. After that it was never the same again.
@albertpostolides7713 жыл бұрын
Probably the most impressive car on record even up to 2021 standards!
@s.tranger10743 жыл бұрын
When I had a weekend when I wasn't on exercises being in the British Army on the Rhine, I used to sometimes go down to Spa in Belgium from Munster in my TR6 PI Mk1 where I was stationed in the early 70's with a mate to watch these beasts hitting 200mph on the straight. Nice area too.