Dead Last Episode 7 : Ranking the top Horror films of 2020

[@HorrorMovieSyllabus]

Thanks again for doing this, Josh! It was so much fun to participate and I really enjoyed seeing the perspectives of the other fans.

[@movietimelines]

thanks for being a part of it, and everyone...go check out the Horror Movie Syllabus!

[@nickwical5548]

Loved this. Thanks for doing this again! Really enjoyed being part of it

[@movietimelines]

thanks for being in it, nick! glad you enjoyed it!

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodUnclePete]

This was so much fun to work on. Thanks again Josh!

[@movietimelines]

glad to have you on board!

[@will1301]

Great show as usual and very cool you included your patrions, fans shown how much respect you have for your fans and vice versa

[@bkjstudio]

As a Patreon member featured in this video. It was an absolute honor Josh!

[@movietimelines]

thanks for being it! it was a lot of fun to put together.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

Great video! I really enjoyed being included. Thanks again, Josh! Already looking forward to your next video... whatever it is. :)

[@movietimelines]

new video this Friday! better have plenty of silver around, just in case!

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

@@movietimelines 🧛‍♂️!

[@mikeforshaw8966]

Great episode and an absolute honour to be part of the panel! Nice to see Invisible Man at #1...Wow, Dead Last? I get it - I kinda enjoyed The Hunt (well, the first third of it anyways)...Underwater was decent, despite being a complete Alien/Abyss clone it gripped me (I just wish it had stronger characterisation)...Gretel & Hansel was okay; all dressed-up and nowhere to go - but it was probably the best-looking horror of it's kind since Sleepy Hollow despite being being dull as hell. Cheers Josh!

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

I've heard a lot of the "Alien(s) underwater" characterization of Underwater. And it's THERE. No doubt. I just thought that the pacing was so different than Alien(s) that it didn't feel like a copycat but a clever usage of a template. Also though, early in the movie I was equally reminded of The Descent, given the feeling of intense claustrophobia and impending crush threats. Loved that. The Descent is one of the few movies I've seen since I was a kid that actually scared me multiple times (sure, jump scares but also the atmospheric terror). I think I was just so pleased with Underwater because of its combination of these themes, the way the story was unusually but effectively paced, and, Cthulhu. 🤘

[@mikeforshaw8966]

@@thefourmoodgroups2589 Don't get me wrong I liked Underwater (it was my 3rd favourite here) - it wasted no time and I was gripped like a vice from beginning to end. The lack of stronger characterisation was the big let down for me here.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

@@mikeforshaw8966 Understood. Yeah that's a tricky balance. When you hurdle right into the action you tend to miss the typical beats/moments for characterization. It's possible to do both, and I thought Underwater did a decent job with it. They gave you little pieces of Norah through story elements rather than conversation, and the rest of the characters definitely lack depth. Ha! Depth! Anyway, it's a tough balance to strike. And I don't think it was perfectly done in Underwater.

[@NuclearArcticFox]

I've subscribed to Noah's channel earlier this week after watching his Hellraiser reviews. Surprised to see him here.

[@paulroman3668]

I'm glad to see something good came out of the dumpster fire otherwise known as 2020... Your upload!

[@mspsychgirl]

This was a blast! The video is awesome! Thanks for having me!

[@movietimelines]

thanks for being a part of it. and thanks for being a trooper in the filming!

[@mspsychgirl]

@@movietimelines it was no problem, technology is a necessarily evil sometimes

[@RPJ412]

@@mspsychgirl Lol so you have a liberal arts.. I mean climate change.. I mean political science degree and that makes you an expert on The Hunts political and social commentary? 😂😂😂 also didn’t have to delete your arrogant comment.

[@jazcc]

Great list, great panel. Never disappoints

[@s.s.4820]

Nice video, folks! Glad to see Professor Victor from Horror Movie Syllabus here. If there’s anyone here who hasn’t checked out his channel, head over there and catch up!

[@Cat-47]

New videos from this channel are always pog

[@rodneysteffan3073]

The dude that placed underwater last was judging this film on her previous performances and went into this with that veil. Her performance was very good in this and she has been giving great performances as of late.

[@johnrushing6041]

Nice job using your patreons. I really enjoyed this list. Can we get an alien/predator universe ranking. Thanks for the hard work.

[@movietimelines]

it’s on the list. i don’t have it on the schedule yet, but i think it’ll be a great one to rank.

[@roleplayer5564]

Shannon needs her own channel, I'd watch her.

[@movietimelines]

i agree!

[@mspsychgirl]

Thank you! I’m working on it!

[@roleplayer5564]

@@mspsychgirl that's great! I'll be waiting.

[@neoream3606]

I really like when you have other people to talk about the rankings and movies

[@peterdanior4538]

Hunt is my Number 1, I loved this movie. I knew nothing about the movie going in to it. Based on the name & cover art, I thought it was going to be more like Ready or Not. Within the first 10 minutes I realized what the premise was & I legit got excited. I loved that they kept killing off the "lead" in the beginning. This is also the only movie on the list where I never got bored watching it.

[@tm6888]

Where do you get your recordings of films from?

[@peterdanior4538]

Brahms I had as Number 9 mostly because they through away what made the Boy good. Having Brahms be a real person was a great twist, but this felt like an Annabel rip-off as others have said.

[@peterdanior4538]

I put Invisible Man at Number 8 mostly because nothing much happens through the middle of the movie. Her escape at the beginning is great. Her plan to make him reveal himself is awesome. But its like they forget that she is a strong smart woman in the rest of the movie. Also at several times they forget he is Invisible & not a ghost. Like watch the scene where the sister is killed & she grabs the knife. It does not look natural at all.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

Hey Peter! I ranked Invisible Man 7. Glad I'm not too far out on that limb by myself! I'm in the video on it, but I would also add...expectations. I expected certain things from that movie that just didn't come through. A lot to like, but it disappointed me. I really try to hear as little as possible about movies before seeing them. A challenge to be sure! It's like, with Host, I had very minimal expectations, which allowed it to impress me a lot more. Granted, I only have that ranked 6, but, similar to the overall Dead Last list, there's a big drop off for me between 7 and 6. I implied otherwise in the video, but I do like Host way more than the Invisible Man.

[@peterdanior4538]

@@thefourmoodgroups2589 I didn’t know much about the movie either. I kept guessing what was happening and expecting a twist that usually didn’t show up. It is a good movie and is definitely better than other Universal Monster reboots

[@JTisOneCrazyMan20]

Good list, but the biggest crime of this list is that The Empty Man isn't even on it, let alone in at least the top 3. Absolutely majorly overlooked, mismarketed, and misunderstood horror of 2020, but that movie was in my opinion, one of the best horror films of the decade. Up in Hereditary territory. Has some similarities to it as well. If you haven't seen The Empty Man, do NOT watch the trailer, do not read a thing about it, just go in completely blind. Even the opening 20-25 minute pre credits sequence, if that was just a short film, it honestly might be one of my favorite short films of all time. Just brilliant stuff, and as a directorial debut, it's an absolutely unreal debut. This movie will definitely stick with you and make you think long after it ends. Can't recommend it enough, although it's definitely not for everybody. So glad it's finally been getting the praise it deserves and is gaining a cult following.

[@Haplo699g]

Kristen Stewart CAN act. The problem is everyone knows her from the Twilight movies, where she played a character with no substance. The reason being she was an avatar for the reader to project themselves into. As such she couldn't have a character that might conflict with the reader so she was just....there.

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

I hear that. After watching Underwater I'd like to look into some of her other movies now, outside Twilight. It's hard to not be affected by the general opinion you hear about an actor, particularly when she's in successful movies that she's so strongly associated with. Just please don't say you would make a similar argument with Hayden Christensen. 🙃

[@Haplo699g]

@@thefourmoodgroups2589 Nah Jumper was pants. LOL

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

@@Haplo699g lol. Have you seen Vanishing on 7th Street? I watched it a few weeks ago because tubi and I thought, why not try to give this guy a chance? The story is... admittedly questionable? Lol. But there were other actors in it who aren't awful. Anyway, even with the movie's numerous flaws, HC's still the biggest problem in the movie.

[@Haplo699g]

@@thefourmoodgroups2589 No, but I saw a movie where he was awake during surgery, I enjoyed that. Possibly not for the reasons intended though...

[@kavjay]

My favourite has to be Host (2020). I had the pleasure chatting with Emma Webb, one of the stars of the film. Everyone in this film is just fantastic

[@HamburgersHorror]

Great job Josh! Thanks for letting me plug the channel. I'd love for y'all to check out my channel, I'm currently going through the Child's Play/Chucky franchise!

[@russmorgan315]

Color Out Of Space was weird, but I liked it too.

[@alchemypotato]

Yeah, I liked it a fair bit. I guess as it only got a small release in 2019 it wouldn't have qualified for this list.

[@russmorgan315]

@@alchemypotato True, Spiral on Shudder was really good too.

[@daniboy018]

Don't know if you've announced something like this being a thing, but you should have a "Dead Last Season Finale" where the dead lasts of each episode is ranked to find out which one is truly DEAD Last. In that episode, you should also start with the least worst, working its way down to said Dead Last.

[@movietimelines]

you’ll be pleased to know that this EXACT thing is planned for this June, the series’ one year anniversary. it’ll be an annual tradition to find the Dead Lastish Dead Last movie of the year!

[@daniboy018]

@@movietimelines Perfect! Whoops if this was planned to be a surprise or something...😅😅 but..uhh...excellent!

[@alchemypotato]

My ranks in parenthesis: The Turning (9): Really boring. I can barely even remember it now. The Grudge (5): Surprised this is so low. It's not good but it felt like it tried more than a lot of the films. Brahms: The Boy 2 (8): I watched The Boy for the first time right before watching this and was surprised by how bad it was and yet Brahms was much worse. Painfully dull and generic. There's a wealth of killer doll films out there and this just isn't an interesting one. Fantasy Island (Dead Last): Thoughts in the video. The Wretched (7): Again, I don't remember this movie now. I didn't think it was awful but oI have no desire to ever watch it again. Host (3): I generally am a bit cold on found footage and ghost/possession type films so I was surprised to enjoy this so much. Not an amazing film but it's effective for what it is and at under an hour it's a solid return on investment. The Hunt(4): I was really expecting to despise this film, especially after seeing Josh's 1 star Letterboxd review, but I was surprised to find it pretty entertaining. The political satire is very cringey and ineffective but it's fun and Betty Gilpin's performance really carries the film. Gretel & Hansel (2): Thoughts in video. Underwater(6): Was disappointed in this. I really didn't know much going in but I love Kristen Stewart (you guys have gotta take the time to watch the good movies she's been in, not Twilight and the Huntsman). Unfortunately, it did just feel like Alien/Aliens underwater to me but without anything that made those films good. The ending was neat but overall I thought it was pretty meh. The Invisible Man(1): Thoughts are in video, but obviously this is the clear winner for a reason. Hats off to Elizabeth Moss and Leigh Whannel. Fantastic film.

[@movietimelines]

i think it’s funny that our thoughts on Gretel & Hansel were basically exactly the same!

[@peterdanior4538]

I also put Turning as Dead Last and it was so boring that when it came up it took me a minute to remember if I watched it or not. I agree that the fake out ending was better than the actual ending.

[@peterdanior4538]

Fantasy Island was my Number 2 for many of the same reasons that Professor Victor stated. The first & second acts are great. It's fun & interesting. Ironically my favorite "fantasy" was the torture one because I think its a great premise. So I was disappointed with the villain reveal & I think there were many other ways they could have went.

[@cravenscurse]

I only stumbled upon this channel recently but i would have loved to have seen ghosts of war on this list (if it were out at the time that is) it was a phenomenal film and i think it was easily better than most on this list

[@tennozeorymer]

"Spontaneous" was TERRIFIC.

[@movietimelines]

it really was. the guy that wrote it also wrote Love and Monsters, which was also pretty great.

[@john_blues]

Possessor was my top Horror Movie in 2020.

[@jazcc]

That is definitely on my list to see

[@totaldramafangaming118]

The hunt is the best movie of 2020

[@kavjay]

Can you review WNUF HALLOWEEN SPECIAL (2013) please? This is probably the best Halloween movie I've ever seen

[@movietimelines]

i plan to talk about that in one of the list videos that’s coming up. not quite sure when it’ll be, but it’s a great film, so you know i want to talk about it.

[@kavjay]

@@movietimelines , ooh, I can't wait. Halloween 3 Season of the Witch (1982) is still my favourite, but WNUF is a close contender

[@McPoshSquatch]

Wow, you can tell a lot of people don't know jack sh*t when it comes to ranking horror films. Not a one of these would have been on my lists, unless it was a crapfest list of the worst so-called horror movies of 2020. Sorry, but when you rank The Invisible Man as #1 and someone refers to the way a supposed horror movie being shot as "gorgeous". Yeah, something's not right.

[@XavierFunklestien]

That’s bs, I’ve been a tier 3 onlyfans sub for six months. Why wasn’t I invited ?

[@bkjstudio]

@Xavier F. It was literally in the community thread on Patreon

[@alchemypotato]

@@bkjstudio "onlyfans"

[@bkjstudio]

@@alchemypotato LMAOO. Nice I got the joke now

[@marioperez9394]

I liked the Grudge and I really enjoyed Fantasy Island except for Micheal Pena they did him bogus with that accent

[@marioperez9394]

Can you get Carnage Counts or James A. Janice in one of these

[@movietimelines]

I’d be down for him to appear, but I don’t think he’d be interested, sadly.

[@marioperez9394]

@@movietimelines I hope he’s be he usually seems down for whatever

[@sourpatchkid394]

I thought fantasy island could’ve been fun if they had made it more fun and made moresense

[@StarshineGoomba]

... I actually haven't seen any of these ten films yet.

[@brew1234567891]

No one wants to admit that the hunt offended them. Lol

[@thefourmoodgroups2589]

It's definitely the kind of fare that could get an audience engaged in something they may have been feeling before pressing play. But I'm just curious, can you put your finger on what it offered that people don't want to admit to? I'm generally pretty open about being drawn to whatever, for whatever reason I can discern.

[@JERSEYBOYPLAY2HARD]

Amy’s apartment or Hello it’s me will be the best horror movie of the 2020s

[@mrpontyboi]

Kristen Stewart wasn’t bad it was your guys inability to remove her from her Twilight character, very juvenile.

[@cwslyclgh]

Favorite "horror" movie of 2020 was hands down Porno

[@movietimelines]

you know, i have a copy of that, and haven’t watched it yet. I’ll have to bump it up on list.

[@crazytexan7532]

The Hunt

[@lonedragon3261]

Lowest possible score is 29, not 10.

[@AidenLS]

The only strong opinion I have is on Host, I give it a dead last because it was terrible. It was just a worse unfriended and unfriended wasn't that good to begin with. Something that's slow and boring with characters I don't care about and a really lame idea overall.

[@marioperez9394]

I hate Finn Wolfhard he’s so annoying and Bly Manor was such a disappointment compared to Hill House

[@TheOther644]

Have you or could do one on the Alien movies

[@movietimelines]

i did an alien timeline, but not for dead last as of yet. look for it in the future, though, as we’ll definitely cover it.