Dead by Daylight | July Release & 2v8 Livestream

Get ready for 2v8 chaos, and the addition of gaming’s ultimate Survivor to The Fog. Dead by Daylight’s official July Release & 2v8 Livestream is here with full details on the long-awaited 2v8 Mode, and a closer look at how the Tomb Raider herself, Lara Croft, made her way into The Entity’s Realm.
July Release & 2v8 Broadcast Includes:
Intro 14:45
The Casting of Frank Stone, Pre-Order 20:17
Bringing Lara Croft to Dead by Daylight 24:29
Playing As Lara Croft 33:47
Tome 20: Mythic 41:34
Upcoming Collections 51:09
2v8 Game Mode: 57:23
2v8 Game Mode Showcase: 1:07:15
2v8 Game Mode Q&A: 1:26:59
Live Design Q&A: 1:34:37
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Dead by Daylight is a multiplayer action/horror game where one player takes on the role of a brutal Killer and the other four play as Survivors. As a Killer your goal is to sacrifice as many Survivors as possible. As Survivors your goal is to work together to evade, escape, and most importantly - stay alive.      
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[@Bisquvik]

This game mode should come permanently. Those who want, like the comment ❤

[@kevins.5411]

Well, it is.

[@RedPanda837]

@@kevins.5411it’s not it leaves in August

[@kevins.5411]

@@RedPanda837 do you really think they invest hundreds of thousands of Dollars if not more into the developement of a whole new class system without the intention of making it a game mode to stay? I find that very hard to believe.

[@vrnerf8151]

No it actually ends on August 6​@@kevins.5411

[@kingclampz6081]

@@kevins.5411😂😂

[@platinumwarrior1309]

Survivors: 😱😂😭😉🤣😅🥲💀 Killers: 🗿🗿

[@fadlanal-amsi9839]

nice detail having the emoji 8

[@aaronairlight1007]

swfs bouta get fucked when they experience kwfs

[@TheAdammantium]

I immediately noticed that! At first I thought "makes sense, since killers tend to play alone; so "teamwork" is foreign to them" but I realised that the 2 killers are devs and not content creators like the survivors; so they don't necessarily have entertainment/chatter skillz.

[@SentinelRoboguard]

​@@TheAdammantium also playing vs 8 Survivors is sensory overload lol. It's alot to keep track of

[@Count_of_Melty]

​@SentinelRoboguard the other killer guy helps with the package

[@brau_Alvarad0]

The original Raccoon city map could be perfect for this mode. The whole thing was like 2 maps long.

[@Lakthul]

I would genuinely love a full city map in DBD. The closest we have right now is a street intersection.

[@JcrafterGames]

Would be really cool. But bodyblocking could be a huge issue with all the hallways. Should be easily resolved though by letting players lose collision after a few seconds of being bodyblocked

[@robo7767]

Notice how you got to hear how much fun the survivors were having playing 2 vs 8 but you didn’t get to hear the killers getting pissed as the gens were flying. 😂

[@cgopie1]

Remember, more survivors also means more mistakes, especially in solo Q. An 8-person swf might be brutal, but it should still be fun for killers. I play both sides and I can see why it might be easier for survivors, but as long as you're not a simple "win at all cost" killer, it should still be a very fun mode for killers. I just wish they had Doctor for the initial mode, that's my only source of sadness for this announcement.

[@BotWhisperer]

I agree, the 1st match especially was brutally survivor sided. They only got 2k because they stayed in end game to mess around

[@Danny-bx9zq]

I don’t think the killers knew what they were doing tbh…..

[@youraverageforger2133]

@@Danny-bx9zqneither did the survivors but they still demolished them

[@Mugxc]

Killers were not good lil bro 🙏😭

[@victorspectrum6005]

Finally, GUYS!!!! Remember... despite we all wanted this, it's possible that this mode is not as fun as it can be in the moment, so let's show them that they have to invest on it!

[@lNKSPL0TCH3S]

Look on the bright side for the funny moments, imagine an eight person Steagull team

[@60Seconds_60]

when is 2v8 coming?

[@poltergeist1105]

@@60Seconds_60 25th july

[@MiketheratguyMultimedia]

Let's show them that they have to invest in it if it actually winds up being fun, feels fair, isn't incredibly frustrating, and is actually worth keeping around.

[@cgopie1]

Exactly this! The doomsday gang will be out in force saying this is the end of DBD if it's not perfect in every way, but the rest of us need to make ourselves heard for positive development of the mode rather than screaming for its removal. I'm so looking forward to this mode and hopefully they add all killers when it's permanent so I can try this mode out as Doctor!

[@PsyCoCinematics]

Three hook states for each survivor got carried over, but not 5 gens for killer. Chainsaw doesn't instadown, Nurse gets extra blinks, since he needs a nerf and Nurse needs a buff n' all. Did I hear they get three exit gates and two hatches correctly? This was an extremely chill group of survivors and they still flew through gens, it's gonna be a bloodbath when actual swf mains get their hands on this.

[@ashcosmo3854]

It won't be a bloodbath because no one will actually even end up playing this unbalanced trash lol

[@PsyCoCinematics]

@@ashcosmo3854 Much like the game itself, I'd *like* to play it. Just wish the devs would get out of it's way. It's a shame to see such potential wasted, like a great book with a phoned-in movie adaptation. Also, yet again the survivors, the one's supposedly afraid of failure, are having a ball in a group chat party line while the big bad killers are stuck in silence and constantly held at task.

[@tfcbioshock]

​@@ashcosmo3854that's exactly why people will play it

[@ScottOfChaos]

I think it should be 12 gens honestly since 6-7 survivors can be working on gens as opposed to 3 survivors. Also when one survivor is killed, it is not a huge deal, but in 4 players, it's a big shift. So, more generators will be needed than before, not less.

[@PsyCoCinematics]

@@ScottOfChaos Haha While I can see that mathing out, I'd settle for 10 as that's just carrying over the original amount... and the devs opted not to do that in the first place. For reasons.

[@shropshireslasha6]

57:25 2v8

[@beng-a5791]

Thanks XD

[@hemlockolympic]

Thank you!

[@themarauder6739]

Thank you lol

[@chavitavb]

Thanks, didn’t have to watch the dumb Would you rather BS.

[@boringmonkey6958]

This needs to be pinned fr. An hour of waffling before talking about what we actually came to hear about lmfao

[@kennedyt6818]

8 gens? Survivors are going to rule this mode

[@adammellinger7105]

That was my thought, this mode is survivor based and I'm ok with that. But they could've added more easier killers

[@nexialists]

Yeah not sure how i’m feeling about that, but it should still be fun.

[@erosrodriguez538]

The moment we knew only the first 5 killers are playable here, I knew this was for survs, at least they can't choose perks.

[@gizmoray721]

@@adammellinger7105 They can't yet, as they only have the ogs now so they can further tweak and add new killers later

[@Prazca]

i mean if it was 10 generators it would be a pain so you gotta settle somewhere ykwim

[@Guiguiwan]

Don't know if devs are crap at this or not enough gens but damn the killers got clapped ....

[@ywnbye]

Both

[@M1XB0X]

Skill issue, Billy + huntress = 💀

[@crystallakeking-]

I feel the same. That first game was a massacre. Only reason they got 2 is because they chose to stay and find hatches. Otherwise, it would have been a shutout.

[@shoto4112]

@@crystallakeking- i feel like the killers were playing a script like, they were whiffing obvious hits? they were letting the save happen, etc lol but yeah if the 2 hadn't stayed it would've been 8 out

[@crystallakeking-]

@shoto4112 I feel the same just on the opposite side. Game 2 I feel like the fog whisperers were intentionally playing bad. Which doesn't lend to a realistic look at how it will be. I will say the right huntress and nurse combo will tear people apart.

[@Rovotic]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL, THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL

[@JackKosing-xh1zh]

AAAAAAAA!

[@-sosa-]

Wym

[@PhantomHalf]

Not only that CROSS PROGRESSION THE SHACKLES OF CONTROLLER WILL NO LONGER BIND ME

[@therealkreationsdbd]

​@@PhantomHalf 😂 ikr

[@edwardlove7099]

They about to finally answer 🙌 let's go DBD!

[@talweg384]

New mode: 8 survivors and the 2 killers have no gen regression perks. If you don't know how it's going to end you are working at BHV. 😅

[@asterix1912]

The fun thing about the 2v8 is that we have no perks though. I am so tired of seeing the same perks over and over again, this offers us a clean slate and takes everything back to basics. We'll have to see how it turns out, but they could certainly add a mechanic to help slow down gen speeds. Not perks though. It's so much better this way.

[@Ynnam2025]

​@@asterix1912survivors basically have perks tho. They aura reading, faster sprint and healing etc. Killers just got 4-5 add ons.

[@asterix1912]

@@Ynnam2025 we'll have to see how it plays

[@strawberin0]

Wait, so NURSE and Huntress get 4 buffs each, Wraith and Trapper only get 3, and Hillbilly is the only one with a nerf because he CAN'T Insta-down with a chainsaw? What the fuck?

[@briscott6632]

Relying too much on his chainsaw literally screams "skill issue" lol cry more, we love that

[@shanelltaitague2294]

@@briscott6632that’s literally the point of Billy and his chainsaw wdym 💀

[@asteria4046]

@@briscott6632 ..relying on chainsaw? thats his main power and people should be rewarded to use it. is using blinks on nurse also a skill issue?

[@Ouxoh]

​@@briscott6632You're saying they shouldn't "rely" on his ability? Lmao

[@DopeyDaDober]

@@briscott6632bro that’s like saying survivors are relying too much on repairing gens

[@TheBullrat]

Wow killers aren’t going to have any fun with this 😂 especially with swfs

[@red_swan_]

There are no flashlight saves or hook sabos so the only thing to worry about is good loopers

[@al-che-ra]

I think its going to be more for the laughs than sweat honestly. I look forward to goofing around in this game mode as killer.

[@wolflover1158]

Isnt it that way with EVERY event for this game?

[@Unlimited-D-Works]

So you mean to tell me. They doubled the amount of survivors in the match. And they decided to only give them only 3 extra generators to complete? Wow 💀💀💀

[@talweg384]

And no gen regression perks. Who can't see the disaster from here?! 😂

[@DrgWorld]

I’m seeing a lot of scenario’s where the killers team up on one survivor at a time to prevent looping. This can be effective and fast. But you’re right.. multiple gen’s can be easily done in that little time.

[@glassarrows]

You underestimate how easy it’ll be to catch survivors with two killers and no hooks.

[@DrgWorld]

@@glassarrows there are going to be a ton of more pallets and vaults.

[@talweg384]

@@glassarrows As killer you don't have any control over the location of the "hooked survivors". You can't camp or tunnel. Add that to the removal of gen regression perks and you know how painfull this mode is going to be for killers. I bet trying to down a survivor as a team will be a losing strategy: you can't if you want to apply pressure on the gens. But I must admit I see any possibility for the killers to win against an average team who wants to do gens. Splitting is going to be as painfull. You just have to take hits for your fellow survivors to win.

[@boringmonkey6958]

I'm dying at the 2 million BPs if you preorder Casting of Frank Stone 😂😂😂

[@MrRetsej]

2v8 looks absolutely miserable to play as killer.

[@Stytchless]

I see Otz isn't here, probably because the devs can't handle their game being told it''s not perfect.

[@mikanandgundhamkisser]

Otz is a fog whisperer ?

[@Mulamos8408]

@@mikanandgundhamkisseryea

[@Dub3God]

No, just the alphabet soup people

[@itssouth1]

I want old movement back so bad and I need Otz to tell them THAT!

[@TheDarkWallChris]

Appreciate the periodic reminder that fog Whisperers are among the most annoying and least likeable people imaginable

[@spiffyjacket]

I was thinking the same thing as I was watching this lol

[@PlazmWraith]

They are unpaid shills, what do you expect?

[@ogxguardian5347]

Facts cringe fest

[@ThatCatCast]

Only execption is otz as far as i know

[@tatershouse]

The problem was they didn’t invite any of their normal fog whisperers like otz

[@zeroethics3082]

So 6 Escapes the first match, 5 escapes the second match. 4 extra survivors and only 8 Gens need to be done? This sounds like a "Bully the Killer" block party, lol. Can you imagine what the Bully Squads will look like? Sweet Christmas, no thank you, lol.

[@red_swan_]

What is a bully squad in the game mode

[@zeroethics3082]

@@red_swan_ They are a squad that doesnt care about doing Gens or completing objectives. They synergize thier perks (or classes) to try to bully the killer and make them quit. There are no perks apparently, but they'll find a way, lol.

[@aidasalazar9702]

​@@zeroethics3082 There's also no hook sabos or flashlights, so there's even less ways to bully people

[@PipesIncident]

I think the class you get should be random so you have 2 of each in the match, most people are gonna pick escapist and scout

[@HansHudson560]

I can’t believe they made Billy’s chainsaw not insta down I would rather just have regular mobility this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard

[@Unlimited-D-Works]

Fr like, This is sad.

[@AzulQueso_]

Do they actually know what they are doing?????

[@TheGreenpig1]

Then play the regular mode?

[@HansHudson560]

@@TheGreenpig1 obviously I can just play billy in the regular mode it just sucks that he can’t do what he was intended to do in 2v8 the insta down is why billy is good without it I might as well play nurse or trapper

[@jaceerimcghee5082]

Y’all overly complain about everything just don’t play it then good lord

[@Ender-Logan]

Nerfed Billy, buffed nurse, and brought old made for this back :(

[@Logan-nk4vg]

Can I get a time stamp I can’t find where they discussed that?

[@limpyleg1570]

@@Logan-nk4vg before the 1st match starts

[@samloredescarregado1755]

made for this and object of obsession

[@Ender-Logan]

@@Logan-nk4vg 1:05:51 has the image of the classes and team powers that this is from

[@ShadyzReal]

gee I wonder how many people will play as billy XD

[@xenogamerx]

2v8 seems like a survivor theme park/playground for them to have fun and the killers are just there to facilate that fun because they have to run from something, as a killer main I'm not interested in participating just for others enjoyment.

[@DakkTribal]

Watching the gameplay: it looks too survivor sided Edit: maybe the killers weren't trying just to show it off, but it still feels off. As an aspiring killer player it seems that way.

[@shanelltaitague2294]

As a survivor main I agree

[@gojiwarrior2479]

It’s gonna feel like Identity V with 2v8 before you know it

[@KenKaneki.]

As always

[@Angel-eg4fe]

I'm sure the killers are just holding back to put up a more entertaining fight. Who would want to watch 8 people complain with 2 sweaty try hards locked in

[@MillieDuu]

@@gojiwarrior2479Is it fun on that game?

[@MackyMan73]

I’m only excited for the 2vs8 mode, finally another killer on my team. Also I can’t wait to get sandbagged by all this chaos as survivor!

[@SnatchLord77]

No killers are going to play this. This will just be a complete bully session. 2 killers vs 8 survivors and they only have to do 8 gens with no slow down. Nerfing Billy too. After seeing what the devs look like I now understand why the game is in the current state it’s in.

[@TheRyGuy1776]

Yeah I wasn’t expecting a drag show when I tuned it

[@DiamondsZ1973]

if they do this well and it becomes popular i hope they add unique interactions between killers maybe shared moris or dialogue between the ones that talk or hell give some old killers lines of dialogue. Id love to see some banter between them.

[@user-bb2st4jl3u]

Let the community develop the game instead.

[@aidasalazar9702]

With how divided both sides are, that would be a freaking nightmare. Worse than it is now

[@GhostofCumberland]

How'd they find people worse than my solo q teams?

[@Euclidean3141]

They really made us watch 20 minutes of them screaming and shouting during the 2v8. That was painful to listen to. 5 mins would have been more than enough

[@SonOfSparda2024]

You would literally do the same thing if you were playing the first time but ok.

[@osi3718]

​@@SonOfSparda2024😅, if you are trying to put on a show or fake reaction then yeah

[@SonOfSparda2024]

@@osi3718 and why would they need to fake a reaction if they are having fun playing the new game?

[@osi3718]

@@SonOfSparda2024 I guess each to their own. Peeps who I play with would probably mute their assess instantly. But Whatever ig

[@tiltedbandy6038]

​@@SonOfSparda2024 Dbd doesn't scare anyone anymore.

[@christopherlmoo]

56:02 - 56:38 New Legendary set for Ellen Ripley

[@mikeeeehawkkkkk]

Why with 4v1 it’s 5 gens, shouldn’t it be 9 gens with 8v2 since +1 gens for the number of survivors

[@teched2.055]

5 plus 5, it's correct!

[@mikeeeehawkkkkk]

@@teched2.055I think 10 gens would be too much that’s 900 secs worth of gen repair. That would mean 15 min to repair all gens. +1 gens as compared to total # of survivors makes sense. Also didn’t take into account the time saved for killers as they don’t have to walk to any hooks, chases will be shorter with 2 killers, so actually makes sense

[@teched2.055]

@@mikeeeehawkkkkk But it's balanced, as there are 2 killers against 8 survivors and 10 generators to be separated. Taking into account that in the game's standard mode there are 4 survivors, 1 killer and 5 generators, so it's balanced.

[@mikeeeehawkkkkk]

@@teched2.055 2 killers means 2 survivors in chase for the most part meaning 6 on gens that’s 6 people repairing 10 gens vses the current 3 survivors repairing 5 gens. That’s 360 secs extra vs the current 180 secs. Now i see why they did 8 gens because 6 survivors repairing equates to 180 secs for 8 gens which matches the current ratio

[@DeathRecon]

​@@mikeeeehawkkkkkso 1 looping and 3 on gen, now you can do two loopers and 3 on two gens. Twice as fast, twice the gens

[@therenegade1096]

No Nemmy Wesker though 😢

[@hemlockolympic]

Beloved Evil Residents… I just wanna go Weskin’ time with a buddy.

[@chuu_chuu_trains]

sad times indeed 😔

[@timothybyrne7698]

I am super happy that this is coming around but I’ve got a few problems that gotta be expressed. A) why only 8 gens?? Like 9 sure but 8 just don’t sit right. B) no billy insta down 💀💀💀 C) no regression perks?! Let alone killer perks that are useful? I get you’re trying to avoid comp and all but this is just 100% gonna be survivor favoured asf, heck I bet slugging is gonna be the best strat possible here. I’ll definitely be playing this a TON just not on killer side very much.

[@HexShirO]

why not 10 gens to complete?

[@talweg384]

As killer you don't have any control over the location of the "hooked survivors". You can't camp or tunnel. Add that to the removal of gen regression perks and you know how painfull this mode is going to be for killers. I bet trying to down a survivor as a team will be a losing strategy: you can't if you want to apply pressure on the gens. But I must admit I see any possibility for the killers to win against an average team who wants to do gens. Splitting is going to be as painfull. You just have to take hits for your fellow survivors to win.

[@adidelapatru1466]

why isn't Otzdarva here?

[@jamesgiles4517]

Because he criticised the devs

[@adidelapatru1466]

I'm sorry but it's maybe the best for him to stay away if that's the game they are playing

[@pollointerestelar7439]

Because he doesn't lick the developers' feet.

[@leonlacroix2638]

@@adidelapatru1466 he didn't make the DEI hire requirements

[@SissypheanCatboy]

@@leonlacroix2638 DEI is the new meaningless buzzword for conservatives, eh?

[@VermithorEX]

The gamemode looks fun and super excited to try but I wish they didn’t get rid of Hillbilly’s insta down with his chainsaw

[@Mistertroller32]

So far this all looks fun but it feels like there should be 10 gens because it feels like the survivors can easily get them down quick but honestly it could just be a skill issue for me as killer

[@NEOSTANIAA]

no i agree, i originally thought there’d be 10. it makes a lot of sense

[@kill3rclown690]

As someone who is good as killer this does look unbalanced tbh

[@Prazca]

i feel like, if there's 10 you gotta think there will usually be 2 people being chased, 2 being caged, 2 going for the saves, thats like 4-6 people always busy so i think 8 is a fair number, i'd prefer maybe 9 tho

[@jlomax2838]

As expected all survivors escaped! No way I am playing as killer in this mode

[@mikanandgundhamkisser]

Remember that the 8 survivor are people that play a lot of dbd. The killers are 2 dev who know the game but surely don't play it a lot ;)

[@pollointerestelar7439]

​@@mikanandgundhamkisser These survivors are very bad, playing the game for a long time ≠ skill, I have played against better survivors in most of my games.

[@mikanandgundhamkisser]

@@pollointerestelar7439 i hear your point. But they still know a lot about the game. And this 8 are surely in voc and know each other. In the real mode you have a lot of chance to be vs SoloQ pl2 Player. For me we can't say anything until the game mode release.

[@KeelSan]

​@@mikanandgundhamkisser dev play chill for présentation 😊

[@Lyndis_]

Wish we got to see more of the killers perspective, it rarely ever cut to them and when it did it was just them staring at the screen while still only playing the audio of the survivors..

[@adidelapatru1466]

you mean constant screaming from that one ? 😂 my ears are still bleeding

[@MrBakedPotatoTV]

This mode is gonna be ass for killers. They’re not showing their perspective because they’re not having a good time.

[@RTMaster1]

@@MrBakedPotatoTV my thoughts exactly. its good though, because the mode will die quickly then. cant find a single killer at certain hours, imagine you have to wait for 2 lol

[@aidasalazar9702]

​@RTMaster1 No, that's not the point of the mode, it's a trial run so that they can balance it once they get community feedback

[@smallhungrychild]

why add classes, how is that fun, all these perks and you cant use them. and only 5 killers to pick from??? i hope this is a test and we get an improved version of 2v8 later on where you can pick any perks and killer

[@user-zc7kf1pg7p]

Should be classes AND perks on top of it. And only solo play, no premade 8-player bully squads.

[@JcrafterGames]

Perks do not work in this mode, as a lot of them would break with there being 8 survivors and 2 killers. It would be a coding hellscape. So at least for now classes is a much more reasonalbe way to have this mode

[@Bwatch344]

@@user-zc7kf1pg7p "don't allow having friends to play with eachother in this game mode because i don't have them and i want to win". Just nerf survs/buff killers/give killers gen regression instead of punishing people with friends lmao

[@aidasalazar9702]

They've stated multiple times before that this is a test trial before they balance it.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

@@aidasalazar9702 Well they should have had a PTB for it, not this.

[@EvilLordCanas]

This 2v8 gamemode is destined to be survivor sided as hell, instead of 10 gens they're letting survivors only repair 8. This makes no sense, there's no compensation on the killer-side for that. The gameplay clearly showed what most killer players already feared. The queue times for this mode are going to be horrendous if you think you'll find any killer player sane enough to put up with this.

[@Trizonese]

" there's no compensation on the killer-side". Wrong. With 2 killers you have shorter chases and you dont need to pick up the surv and hook them, you just cage them which takes less time

[@tezzdogger6073]

​@@Trizonese😂😂 sounds like a survivor main that has no clue about what they're talking about😂

[@Trizonese]

@@tezzdogger6073 I am not a survivor main but since youre so smart you can easily elaborate and explain why my comment was wrong.. I objectively said correct things

[@tezzdogger6073]

@@Trizonese have you not noticed jow insanely fast those gens are popping or did that just not click to you. In one scene you can see how fast they are repairing the gens and that's is faster than even the new gen rushing builds

[@heyolorenns]

@@Trizoneselol no response. He cooked u weeb

[@jamesyoung3760]

Ngl. Lara’s perks seem a little too nasty. Killers already have a hard enough time with SWF squads in the upper tiers. Killers are already limited in their ability to regress gens, why make a perk that makes it so that a gen can’t regress beyond a certain point even if a killer kicks it and no one goes back to it? And before all the “git gud” comments, I’m a good player. I win most of my trials and am a pretty damn good huntress. But I find myself sweating my ass off against flashlight and gen rush bully squads almost every game. It’s already hard to get pressure on most maps, but giving a generator a regress cap along with limits on kicking gens is powering down killers further. Just how I see it, super open to discourse!

[@spiritupgrades]

14:53 the start

[@Assh8812]

No custom games just killed the hype for me. its supposed to be like a party fun mode so why not be able to invite all your friends? Me and a group of friends were planning on returning but ig we will just wait until its released in customs. Definitely don't want to try public matchmaking.

[@Night_less_Sky]

What we waiting for?? Didn't we already see the 2v8

[@gabrielllrodr]

this is announcing more details because the release is very soon.

[@Night_less_Sky]

@@gabrielllrodr oh thanks 👍

[@thesmokinggamer8149]

so whack i updated the game for no reason

[@oztheman6177]

​@@thesmokinggamer8149 me too was hyped because they were making it seem like it was releasing today

[@xdragonhunterxd2640]

Man that hurts. Genuinely. How is this expected to be possible as killer?

[@Bodyknock]

Looks fun but also maybe kind of lopsided towards the survivors. Killers have literally no slowdown ability at all and a wider map to cover. Yeah, they can double team a survivor for a quicker down, and don’t have to hook survivors which helps shave off time, but on the flip side if they double team then they’re leaving all seven other survivors doing gens which seems like a bad idea. If they split up, say each covering half the map, it’s probably more time efficient for them but they lose those team related abilities. That’s just my gut first impression watching it though so I could definitely be wrong. 🤷‍♂️

[@WaifuVoorhees]

I 100% agree with this, you leave the rest of the map too vulnerable for the rest of the survivors by teaming up on one survivor, and lose those perks by separating. Without gen regress perks map pressure will be extremely important.

[@magyardaniel3719]

We need the Myers on killer side at least!:(

[@Ashtyzz]

YES DOUBLE TOMBSTONE!!!

[@Romanecrozma]

Myers and Ghostface team 🤝🏻

[@LoneWolfe_XX]

@@Ashtyzzwack

[@idstayaway9992]

​@Ashtyzz there can only be 1 of the same killer

[@MarlonDali21]

​@@AshtyzzThere will be no add-ons

[@BigBadBatch]

Give us more killers. Those 5 are the most basics ones!

[@HEXdankmemes]

💀💀💀

[@AzulQueso_]

Lazy dev team so slow with getting things implemented wonder why so few killer choice for temporary mode

[@BigBadBatch]

@@AzulQueso_ i mean, I would understood because its not like it's the first time a limited killer is being placed , look at the gamemode with the giant Oni. But that gamemode was made around one killer only. This is not the case this time.

[@AzulQueso_]

@@BigBadBatch yeah but five original killers and why couldn't clown be one of the killers instead it's just trapper nurse billy wraith huntress none of which I play except wraith on top of that only one person can select the killer so if someone else has wraith I can't I hate dodging as well

[@BigBadBatch]

@@AzulQueso_ this sucks honestly. Dbd we really want more killers, not the basic ones

[@HELLA_OPS]

The nun as the killer, Ed and Loraine Warren as survivors, please!!!!

[@onikasboo1]

we need it

[@natedoggcata]

Ew fuck no. Ed and Loraine were horrible people who scammed people out of money.

[@asterix1912]

The Crooked Man skin for the Unknown

[@PrettyDreadie]

I would definitely get Loraine’s skin

[@carlthepumpkinman]

To everyone wonderinf why the number of gens is what it is: They (theoretically) playtested it and found that it was the best number. Even though it's twice the players, it doesn't mean that everything should double. Hooks are going to be faster, and with more survivors killers are probably going to have a lot less downtime. This being said, there is a very real chance it will be extremely one-sided on launch lol

[@cgopie1]

Also, more survivors = more mistakes. People forget that.

[@L-or3vr]

​@@cgopie1 more killers = 2x more mistakes btw-

[@cgopie1]

@@L-or3vr a survibor mistakes snowballs onyo other survivors. A killer mistake doesn't snowball. Big difference

[@L-or3vr]

@@cgopie1 1 killer can't beat 8 survivors alone, but 7 survivors can beat 2 killers since they have to do only 8 gens instead of 10 It's simple, mistakes are much less perceptible in the survivor side because you have a lot of them

[@cgopie1]

@@L-or3vr Snowballing still won't occur for the killer side

[@strangerunderyourbed6411]

Who are these people?Where's Otzdarva or Ayrun or Slate or any other KZbinr that actually keep people interested and coming back to the game?

[@twerkatut8164]

Dbd trans corporation 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[@kwshado8409]

So the nurse gets buffed and the hillbilly's entire ability is nerfed. makes sense.

[@heywuddup8796]

Billy is literally useless in this game mode 💀💀💀 wtf were they thinking to turn his chainsaw into an even slower and riskier M1!!?

[@kevins.2217]

A bunch of questions answered but not why its only 8 gens instead of 10? That ratio is way off.

[@flawlesslikemax]

honestly do u think 8 solo queue survivors could get 10 gens done? lol

[@Unlimited-D-Works]

Ong. Like if people need clear example of survivor bias. This mode is the best example. Like how are killers suppose to win this? 💀

[@user-nf7ej2sh9q]

Because i will be hiding the whole time

[@KirkPwns]

Because killers are saving about 10 seconds on every down not having to waste time carrying people to the hook.

[@mariohidalgo7444]

@@KirkPwnsplus no saves whatsoever

[@HarbingerTheAbsolute]

LMFAOOOOOO I Can Smell The GENRUSH From Here Smh

[@nzbaa5449]

The killers need their perks in my opinion, and just from what I watched it seems like this favours survivors more than the killer from my perspective as I play both but mostly survivor

[@Dub3God]

We didn’t get everybody’s pronouns before the start of the game?

[@RyanBofMKE]

I was going to watch until I realized Otz wasn't on here. Who are these ppl, seriously..

[@Racc-Kun_YT]

The amount of people already whining off of speculation in the comments is crazy. It's an LTM meant for fun and everyone is whining that the game mode doesn't seem easy enough for their side.

[@Prazca]

mb for wanting to have a fun time in a game

[@Racc-Kun_YT]

@@Prazca The people throwing out whataboutism arguments as counterpoints to make their side seem weaker want it to be easier on them, they don't want it to be fun. There definitely need to be more gens and some of the survivor kits are dumb af but there are also some killer combos that encourage play styles that are going to make being chased insanely unfun. It doesn't have to be Us Vs. Them like it always is with this community, tweaks are needed on both ends.

[@erosrodriguez538]

I would like to hope we can use offerings, imagine making 2 moris at the same time

[@rickmath7303]

All the survivors are all like yeah screaming and I like this and all that and then there are the killers that are like hyper focused trying to get downs and they even look so frustrated like they are not enjoying the game at all 😅 The mode looks fun but clearly needs more balancing like having 10 gens would be more fair for example because if the mode is planed for the future to be permanent some of the killers may start doing strategies that many people don’t like for example slugging , camping and all that . But really hope not many don’t take it too seriously and have fun in the mode so we can really have it permanent.

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

I doubt people will have enough fun on Killer side to make it permanent.

[@KaySM]

I can see it now, survivors getting mad about teaming and killers getting mad at their teammate for stealing their kill 😄

[@starshine2.050]

The Casting of Frank Stone gives me Until Dawn and The Quarry vibes it’s gonna be amazing 😭😭😭

[@t0xx_tv]

57:00 is 2v8 showcase

[@GenerallDRK]

That "we take this stuff very seriously" line over sable hair having "dreads" was so damn cringe. P.s this game is supposed to be horror but this whole live stream lacked that feel entirely lol.

[@Potachee255]

Lmao and sable looks like the type of person that would wear dreads too 😭😭😭

[@damnwhores]

@@Potachee255 A goth woman with dreads. You can see the conflict here.

[@frijolesborracho9340]

i dont really get the live stream complain its just supposed to be casual

[@sear8618]

this whole stream was so American I got confused, I thought this was a Canadian company. If only they knew dreads were more of a fashion choice in the rest of the world.

[@AnyOtherNamePlease]

White people can grow dreads but black women have to attach weaves of other people's hair, and that's OK??? This really is peak 🤡 🌎 .

[@theweatherkid337]

Killers need perks if only 8 gens. Especially due to how limited we are on killers.

[@JcrafterGames]

Adding more gens might not be possible based on the map size and there being 2 killers to contest the last generator. But some kind of slowdown seems very necessary as it's just a race against the clock now with no push or pull

[@carlispencer2149]

As a survivor main, it is way to survives sided. Without any gen regression perks, gen rushing is going to be insane

[@oofieodyssey4349]

they managed to buff the nurse

[@al-che-ra]

2v8 mode, survivors should only get 1 hook instead of the standard 2. Would fix this mode easily.

[@matrix5051]

I imagined how fun to play the Legion can be with 8 Survivors (When also you can take even 2 Legion's 😂)

[@nuclearpugg]

I think that's actually a circle of hell

[@MillieDuu]

Imagine how fast Legion is gonna be

[@dilucsama2989]

Make this mode permanent also there should be 10 gens instead of 8 what are you guys thinking 8 gens will get done easily

[@augtober]

Man, you can really tell the devs dont play their game.

[@MaykMagalhaes-go1xn]

I think 10 gens is more fair

[@itssouth1]

Thank you sincerely for adding this amazing gamemode! But, can you make your game unstale? Add back fun features again please.

[@pez_6445]

Gameplay starts at 1:07:40

[@CamiloHG]

The way the gens get rushed is insane

[@KingOfDoom55]

What about moris? Will they be available for 2v8..? Just a quick thoughts that ran through my head just & now & got curious

[@evilyoshimaster]

Nurse + Huntress is going to be an insane combo for quick downs.

[@theweatherkid337]

Ik or double huntress.

[@Tendo-v24]

@@theweatherkid337 double huntress really good for quick downs

[@mythmage8231]

While I like what they were going for with the perk system, I think it would've just been better to give every player 1 perk, Survivors get to bring in a brown/yellow item, and Killers get 1 addon each.

[@MemeTorDel]

1:07:39 2v8 Gameplay starts

[@marcoseduardodasilvabergam545]

I know lot of people really got enthusiastic, so as I when I heard about 2v8. But 2 things that really disappointed me is the fact that theres no PERKS (imagine the possibilities to combine perks between 2 killers) and there is only standard killers to play. 9 gens would be better too. And I know people will say "so just play normal game". Yea, I will, im just saying that is sad to see something that could be incredible turning in a "no salt mode" in my opinion. Sorry if you dont agree with me, im just venting here.

[@graverobberamy3015]

For all the people crying about how "this is so survivor sided" and "they ruined this game mode" ( im a killer main before anyone brings up anything about sides ) This is a two week long test, to get player feedback and make changes for future versions. Is it unbalanced? Yes. That's why they're getting this to us so early and for such a short period, this is essentially a two week long beta test. They stated they want to add more to it, they stated they want to add custom games, they stated that once they have the direction down they'll think about making it permanent. Give them legitimate criticism because that's what they want and what they need, but stop kicking your feet and throwing a tantrum like a toddler because the TWO WEEK LONG BETA isn't perfect.

[@poppyyyy04]

It will be great if the legion can be in the game

[@bday_dud8443]

That one dev is a good huntress 💪

[@knightwolfpro4494]

The true legendary Skin for Lara would have been her original outfit and body type. That I would have bought in a heartbeat.

[@PrettyDreadie]

Praying this will actually be fun. Chaos shuffle was the best so far ❤

[@YT-CesarB]

Beginning childish questions cringy af

[@ThatWaryGuy]

Still seems way too easy for survivors. Now that they took away addons and gen regression, there seems to be little that stops the survivors from escaping. The survivors, in turn, get massive buffs and cool classes. Killer team based powers need a LOT of help. I wanted to like this mode. I wanted it for years. Playing killer with a friend seemed really fun and I liked the idea of more of a challenge when playing survivor. Why does it seem easier instead? 2 killers should feel hard. The goal to complete 8 gens is too low for this many survivors. Should be 13 for balance. I know it's a first release and still a work in progress, but I really hope they work on this a bit more. It shouldn't feel survivor-sided. That's not fun. For survivor or killer.

[@user-pc1gw4ui6d]

Just so everyone knows I will be tunneling yall out. lol Very clear this mode is survivor sided.

[@ramrancher3943]

Survivor bias has killed this mode before it's even released, lmao.

[@SuperG3X]

So don't play the game then!!!

[@pok3rfacReturns]

To be fair they are playing with Trapper and Wraith.

[@Deniolia]

It's literally not done. It will change

[@ramrancher3943]

@@SuperG3X You don't get to tell me what to do, bozo.

[@idstayaway9992]

​@@SuperG3X🤡

[@MrPendalv]

Finally we reached the point where you implement this long awaited mode. 1) add more gens to do, it should be at least 10. 2) more new killers asap, everyone will be bored very fast if only 5 will be there, and two of them are super boring and billy is nerfed with meme addon. 3) make some basekit regression after caging surivor. Even 10 gens is not enough to fight genrush since all other processes for survs are the same or even faster. They healing faster, one person for unhooks, etc while other slamming gens. Make that for unhooking you need two survivors. And btw, very annoying that you brought there some abominations instead of beloved and renown streamers. Like imagine these two creatures, and not Otz or JRM invited, after all what they made for this game. I bet Otz is enraged

[@jcaps]

For anyone looking for the actual gameplay it starts at 1:07:30 Warning: Annoying fOg wHiSpErEs

[@ihaveseenthings0]

1:17:39 “I’ve been stomped on, I kinda like it” 😐😐😐

[@TheEthanGamer]

"Prepare for trouble!" "And make it double!"

[@RTMaster1]

oh, the 2v8 doesnt actually let you use perks? it locks you into specific ones? game mode has died before it arrived, nice

[@WittingStudios]

Who are these B list streamers? Give me OTZ!

[@gunhead7159]

PLEASE give us more survivors with masks and helmets and stuff! The lack of *actual* face coverings on survivor side is astounding

[@Astro_person2099]

3v12 coming when?