Why Did This 1968 Dodge Charger R/T Just Sell At Mecum For $170,000? (It’s Unsafe And Bad)

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If you see something, say something. I saw something in the pictures of this outwardly beautiful Charger that is so stupid and downright unsafe, I had to say something. So here we are. Auction buyer beware.

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@ultrablue2
@ultrablue2 Жыл бұрын
At $150k plus, a buyer should be picky of whatever car they are contemplating purchasing. You are 100% spot-on.
@glenfenderman
@glenfenderman 7 ай бұрын
Damn right! I would never lay down those figures for anything that was under 100% right!
@thorsrensen3162
@thorsrensen3162 6 ай бұрын
I think it is a bit much to use 16 minutes to rant over a small unoriginal breakline which can quickly be replaced. The car looked fine to me, except I would never buy a musclecar which is equiped with drum breaks on the front wheels.
@johnl9977
@johnl9977 6 ай бұрын
that Charger was crap. I sold a better 440 RT back in the 80's for $700. Really, there is nothing special at all about those cars except the style which the Fast and Furious franchise made iconic. I bought a 68' L89 Corvette to replace it. Now, that was a special car, far superior to the Charger in everything.
@americanAlienBoy
@americanAlienBoy 6 ай бұрын
@@thorsrensen3162 If you didn't think it was worth it, why did you watch the whole thing? He picked out a whole host of other problems with the car, or did you miss those? If the brake (not break) line was such a simple job and they couldn't even get that right, it's a bad sign. Or does the idea of 4000 lbs of Mopar running into you because some hack couldn't figure out how to flare a brake line not bother you?
@thorsrensen3162
@thorsrensen3162 6 ай бұрын
@@americanAlienBoy I have never seen a metal tubing being rupture from the force of a brakepedal so I bet it will hold I would nok be affraid of driving this car.
@jonbruce536
@jonbruce536 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Not the first time Mecum has sold junk for an absurd amount.
@daveminer9217
@daveminer9217 Жыл бұрын
I recently "visited" an Iowa dealer that bought marginal 1st round cars at Meacum. They had a recent 67 El Camino. I got up to the bed, it was solid rust, and my finger practically went through it. It was paper thin and I noticed the last owner spray painted it over with some kind of black coating. The salesman said they hadn't yet priced it, but it would be in the mid to high twenties when they did. If you are into paying a fortune for overpriced salvage/scrap iron, then gladly allow yourself to be a newbie into the realm of "classic cars". If you have FU money, then send a professional to inspect before buying and get documentation of restoration work done and expect to pay more than any mere millionaire would want to pay. $170,000 for that junk? Buyer beware!
@steve-ph9yg
@steve-ph9yg Жыл бұрын
@@daveminer9217 I use to blame cars like this on buyers with more money than intelligence they just what one and it’s shiny. I think they were the kids that would have the tantrums screaming I want it until mommy gave in this is them grown up with big bank accounts.
@bradleynelson5915
@bradleynelson5915 Жыл бұрын
@@daveminer9217 , out of curiosity would that shop be near Iowa City? I'm not going to name them because I like going there and looking.
@bullittboost6046
@bullittboost6046 Жыл бұрын
What I really want to know is how people that dam dumb have money. I always considered people with money much smarter than me because I am just an average working stiff. An I haven’t been able to make money to throw away like that. Maybe I am in wrong line of work, probably should be offering my extensive automotive knowledge for sale.!😀
@blackcatpgh13
@blackcatpgh13 Жыл бұрын
@@bullittboost6046 Doesn't take smarts to be born into money. I worked with a guy that "forgot" that he had 10K in a bank account somewhere. (Yeah, that isn't big money, but like you said, I'm just an average working stiff.)
@bbrown5887
@bbrown5887 Жыл бұрын
Auctions are deliberately hyped to a feeding frenzy for a reason. A well informed cautious buyer, isn’t always a buyer. Fair and accurate video. Well done.
@jamesn.economou9922
@jamesn.economou9922 9 ай бұрын
Good point. I bet this buyer, wishes they went somewhere else, that day.
@apatheticempathy
@apatheticempathy 7 ай бұрын
>>> === They say E bodys : 71 Challenger or Cuda / B bodys : 68 Charger or Daytona / C bodys : 71 Fury Sport. These Mopar type alone will ALWAYS bring VERY TOP ... T O P dollar. True supply and demand never lies I guess. ===
@johnl9977
@johnl9977 6 ай бұрын
Geez, that thing was nasty, super shade tree.
@krisjato
@krisjato Жыл бұрын
From one Mopar guy to another... THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS! It's so unbelievable that someone would spend that much money on a car like that when the pictures make it so obvious that whoever "restored" the car did a terrible job. You'd think if they were going to spend that much money they would at least hire somebody to look it over closely if they're not going to. By the way, I love your car collection! Great video, thanks for sharing!
@SpectrumRob
@SpectrumRob Жыл бұрын
I bet they found a sucker and bid him up to the max then jumped out! Inside jobs happen.
@ss67camaronut
@ss67camaronut Жыл бұрын
​@@SpectrumRob yep. Scruples and honor have left a long time ago. Gold fever I guess. Old movie called used cars is a manual for these guys. Big money kills the little guys over and over like it did in racing. Yet without grassroots racers and hot rodders, the ones swallowed up by the big money , where would we be. The future is bleak for car guys. The starting point is out of reach for regular folk from the get go with anything in modern muscle. We are a dying breed. Future guys have little chance. Very little.
@blackcatpgh13
@blackcatpgh13 Жыл бұрын
@@ss67camaronut you are spot on! This would have been a $2000 car at best in the late 80s. I passed up a 71 Barracuda for $400 back then, too much rot. Same with a '68 Roadrunner for $800. I inherited a 69 RS/SS 396 4 speed, hasn't been on the road since the 70s, but garage kept. Only way I'm able to even have something like that these days. Rich idiots have ruined almost every hobby. They don't do it for the love of the hobby, they only want to see a return on investment.
@ss67camaronut
@ss67camaronut Жыл бұрын
@@blackcatpgh13 you got it. My ss350 and convertible 67s have been garaged since 87. 68 conv rotted to shit outside but I refuse to scrap it. Has clean title . Sold my 69 pace car in 96 when blew a knee . Broke my back in 98 and been scratching to survive ever since but I refuse to sell them to pay frickn Bill's as long as I'm surviving. I'll get to them , or my son will after I'm gone. I bought em all between age 15 n 18 . Worked since 10 and had no help from parents. I'm 57 and kids are grown n wife gone so soon. I cant wait to enjoy them again. And I will. Just a few more obstacles that should be cleared in next 18 months and I'm going to finally be set. Been thru an upside down world for 25 hard years and know I'll never have money to spare but finally can at least give myself a little priority . Almost there. No rich bastard gonna get my cars. Almost there.
@blackcatpgh13
@blackcatpgh13 Жыл бұрын
@@ss67camaronut Good luck on getting yours back on the road. My plan is to get everything mechanically sound and drive around refusing sales offers from rich idiots that can't understand how a dirtbag like me has a car like that. I'm not going to repaint it, either. It is a 375HP 396 with a Muncie 4 speed, and a 4.56 diff. The person that special ordered that car knew what they were doing. Fender tag proves it - special order. Best of luck on the health issues, that sounds rough.
@patricklanigan
@patricklanigan 2 ай бұрын
As a licensed mechanic in Ontario Canada I can tell you a compression fitting on a hydraulic brake line is illegal, and would fail inspection. I agree with you 100% that whomever did this did probably committed other acts of butchery elsewhere on this car and i would not touch with a 10 and one half foot pole.
@Tommy_Mac
@Tommy_Mac Жыл бұрын
I read a book by Carroll Smith, a famous racecar engineer. He believed that you _must completely disassemble any used racecar and replace every nut, bolt, fastener and fitting._ After seeing multiple versions of this build quality on different cars, I understand why. I think these rolling wrecks are the standard, not the exception.
@JohnJones-cg2xm
@JohnJones-cg2xm Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, but money is the issue.
@RegulerShowTV
@RegulerShowTV Жыл бұрын
the nuts and bolts are fine it’s the bushings and ball joints that wear out
@ML-dl1cp
@ML-dl1cp Жыл бұрын
Yup. And even an honest owner may cut a slight corner out of expedience every now and then. Something like using a regular bolt where a grade 5 or 8 should go *might* be okay, but over the 50 or 60 years some of these cars have been driving, and passing through multiple owners, those little time/cost-savers can add up and become a serious issue. I bought a 65 Mustang fastback survivor which is in overall good condition, 60,000 miles, previous owner had it repainted in 2009. On purchase I went over all the safety-related stuff, baselined everything, and gave it my own seal of approval. A month later - after driving it nearly every day - when I went to replace the carpeting I discovered the passenger seat wasn't bolted in. Like, at all. It was just sitting loose on the floor pan. How it got that way is anyone's guess (I suspect the painter), but it just illustrates how things get forgotten or bypassed over the years. You have to use the finest of fine-tooth combs on these cars!
@plap.
@plap. Жыл бұрын
@@ML-dl1cp Also hard believing it's 60k mi when there is a digit missing on old odometers from 60yr old cars. Very doubtful. All the sellers have to say is" as far as I know it is correct". Could be true but very hard to confirm. After a car goes through many different owners upkeep eventually someone has to redo all of it. Looks good as new then bam it's only got 60k on it again just like 40years earlier just because the seller says so
@ML-dl1cp
@ML-dl1cp Жыл бұрын
@@plap. yup. Although mine sat in a barn from 1972-2009, so the 60k is probably on-point in this case.
@chevelle-pi1bn
@chevelle-pi1bn Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day ,the auction gives you plenty of time to check the car out either yourself or hire somebody to do so , so if you buy a car and it's like this one , you honestly deserve to get what you get . All cars should be fully looked at before you raise your hand .
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely right.
@edwardcox2840
@edwardcox2840 Жыл бұрын
It's just dirty on the owner part for selling something like that we call that half assed 🤔
@apatheticempathy
@apatheticempathy 7 ай бұрын
>>> === They say E bodys : 71 Challenger or Cuda / B bodys : 68 Charger or Daytona / C bodys : 71 Fury Sport. These Mopar type alone will ALWAYS bring VERY TOP ... T O P dollar. True supply and demand never lies I guess. ===
@johnl9977
@johnl9977 6 ай бұрын
I'm spoiled, I would not give more than $5K for it. I sold a nicer one for $700, OK, that was in the 80's.
@dastrayer63
@dastrayer63 Жыл бұрын
"Unsafe at any speed" is the classic reference for the lack of sway bar. If you can afford to pay $170,000, you can afford a $250 inspection report. Too much alcohol involved in this purchase.
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL Жыл бұрын
Actually, sway bars weren't standard until like 1960...
@waylandjennings4073
@waylandjennings4073 Жыл бұрын
I would also venture a guess that there was too much alcohol involved in the build.
@timrussell1559
@timrussell1559 7 ай бұрын
Back in 1983 when i was 17 years old i was moving from the cleveland area of ohio to roanoke va. I owned at the time a bright orange 69 charger with the 383 engine. I was forced to drive that charger 450 miles all by myself due to the fact that i had next to no money. At 150 miles into this trip a rotted out brake line burst and left the car with zero brakes(and i mean none!) I barely had enough money on me to buy fuel to get to virginia, let alone hire a tow truck. I didnt even have the ability or money to get to a parts store to buy a length of steel brake line, and had no tools to install it even if i could. So, i literally drove that 69 charger the additional 300 miles to virginia using only the barely working parking brake to slow down the car and sometimes even get it stopped. I was scared beyond crapless but somehow made it home alive with that car. 100 percent true story of a young and stupid broke 17 year old kid that i will never ever forget!
@kenmetsala39
@kenmetsala39 3 ай бұрын
You grew up tougher too ! A great life experience !
@cannednolan8194
@cannednolan8194 Ай бұрын
I did a similar thing when I was younger in a 97 ranger. Had to lock up the ebrake once
@skidrowoffroad
@skidrowoffroad Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right about that car...and there were more issues than you even mentioned. For example, the crappy fit of the bumpers stood out to me. I've got a '68 Corvette that had been "restored" by some "professional" shop. They made so many mistakes and cut so many corners that I'm having to do a complete frame off rebuild just to be able to safely drive it. Even though they had already done a frame off rebuild, they neglected to replace the rotted body mounts and seat belt mounts. Only 4 of the 9 body mounts were holding anything....and two of checked this car out underneath with it on a lift. You couldn't see those issues with the car assembled. I drove the car that way for 3 months before discovering the problem....and MANY more. The paint looks amazing, but this is the worst and most expensive polished turd I've ever owned. I wouldn't have been able to pay someone to fix this car, but thankfully I can repair it properly myself.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Wow. Yeah, I really think that’s what’s going on here. Pretty decent paint job hiding so much bad stuff. I do think I mentioned the bumper fit? It’s obviously quite bad. If it didn’t make this video I might have cut it. Again I could spend days picking this car apart… I just wanted to hit on the big notes and talk about the crazy price and the stupid brake stuff.
@wormswiggleinn
@wormswiggleinn Жыл бұрын
If someone spent that much money without looking it over first, well jokes on them. I accept that.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
That’s why I’m not afraid to air the laundry out on this thing. I mean, they spent the money. I still feel like I should call this crap out. It’s bad for everyone.
@wormswiggleinn
@wormswiggleinn Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage absolutely, great video
@desertmopars3336
@desertmopars3336 Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage EVERYONE!!
@arthurrose6473
@arthurrose6473 Жыл бұрын
Deliberately incorporating time bomb "repairs" into a death trap isn't a joke- it's murder- and a good lawyer could prove it, and put you in jail. "As is" has it's legal limitations, even for crooks.
@arthurrose6473
@arthurrose6473 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, informative, responsible video. I subscribed to your channel! Incidentally, any idea what a 1972 New Yorker Brougham, with NO rust, dents or body work, stored indoors for the last 30+ years, 440, ALMOST perfect in and out worth? Ran smooth off gravity feed, gas tank nasty. Thanks again!
@wolfmanhawk
@wolfmanhawk Жыл бұрын
The insane price on these things ARE ruining the hobby.
@dodgeking9194
@dodgeking9194 Ай бұрын
All boils down to human greed how is it that the 426 Hemi as a crate engine cost more than a lot of cars I have great deal of respect for the 426 Hemi but it's a crate engine there's no reason for the cost of an engine to be over $20,000 other than human greed
@ericwilliams2574
@ericwilliams2574 Жыл бұрын
Just found this. As the restorer and owner of a 1966 Dodge Coronet; this is why I bought a shell and frame and used my grandfather's and dad's Automotive manufacturing experience with Chrysler/ Mopar to rebuilt it TO Factory, no cheapness or wierd and unsafe corner-cutting. This charger looks gorgeous, but ignorant decisions were made for the sake of profit. It is all fixable and hopefully gets detected and addressed by the buyer. That is alot of money for a Shade-Tree restoration. Mine took me from my sophomore year of HS ( 2009 ) to when I got married in 2014. It is now our weekend car lol. My Coronet is as close to factory as possible with modern parts and materials.
@howardjohnson6189
@howardjohnson6189 Жыл бұрын
“Shade tree restoration” brings back fond memories of being sixteen/seventeen year old kids with just some tools, a pocket full of more dreams than money, a good number of very inexpensive local junkyards to spend endless hours wandering around in, and an old oak tree with that one perfectly thick branch at just the right height and angle in back of my dad’s less than desirable restaurant in a northern Michigan small town hit hard by the recession of the late 70’s. Thankfully most of us survived the “builds” we “geniuses” somehow so proudly pieced together. Man, if I had only put away just a few of those cars I somehow managed to get my hands on back in the day…I’d definitely have more money than dreams in my pocket today!
@55Diddley
@55Diddley 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, buyers are inadvertently rewarding greedy people for bad practices that lead to more continued bad behavior. This is a lesson to have a potential car purchase examined by a professional, especially on such a large purchase as this. Thanks for calling this one out!
@sherryswisher8911
@sherryswisher8911 6 ай бұрын
Auctions are too often dumping grounds for cars that are poorly restored and flipped. Many buyers are not car people just people wanting cars that can’t do their own work.
@unclemarksdiyauto
@unclemarksdiyauto Жыл бұрын
Wow! The title of the video made me look and this is totally not what I expected! I can’t believe all the issues with this car when it is on the $170k price range! I agree with you as to the question, if all these issues are so easy to find, what else is hiding that we can’t see. If you are lacks on stuff you can see, I would think hidden stuff would also be not well done. Thanks for you video! I don’t think you are wrong.
@danpals7678
@danpals7678 Жыл бұрын
I have a 66 383 727 Charger Survivor with all the paperwork, original interior. It's not a 68 but the interiors are better. Only paid 17k for her 2 years ago.
@apatheticempathy
@apatheticempathy 7 ай бұрын
>>> === They say E bodys : 71 Challenger or Cuda / B bodys : 68 Charger or Daytona / C bodys : 71 Fury Sport. These Mopar type alone will ALWAYS bring VERY TOP ... T O P dollar. True supply and demand never lies I guess. ===
@WayneB27
@WayneB27 Жыл бұрын
This has been going on for a long time with auction cars and even cars sold out of fancy showrooms. I have seen so many high dollar cars "tarted up" to sell to wealthy people who know nothing about cars but like the idea of owning an appreciating asset/investment that they can try to drive on a Sunday morning. Most can't even figure out how to start a car with a carburettor so they don't get driven much before they are re auctioned in a few years to the next sucker .
@zacariasblanco9738
@zacariasblanco9738 Жыл бұрын
They have no clue what the knob with "choke" stamped on it I know my dad's 70 Ford f250 had one miss that truck BTW
@rickhale4348
@rickhale4348 Жыл бұрын
The many of the younger generation today are spoiled and useless in so many ways. Growing up in the south if your starter or alternator failed you rebuilt in on sidewalk. I've had mechanics complain about getting a carbureted engine started and me taking 30 or less to get in running. Maybe not well but that's another job. Get your hands dirty and use your brain.
@zacariasblanco9738
@zacariasblanco9738 Жыл бұрын
@@rickhale4348 is the parents not teaching them how to use a tire iron
@rickhale4348
@rickhale4348 Жыл бұрын
@@zacariasblanco9738 My 16 year old son's transmission in his 1970 Dodge pickup. Show him how and he did the work. His 1973 Jeep Comando's rear-end needed replaced and he robbed a 9inch rear-end from one of my early Ford Bronchos. Son's tend to think what you own belongs to them. Son's need fathers and mothers. My wife and I have been together 40 years, happily.
@zacariasblanco9738
@zacariasblanco9738 Жыл бұрын
@@rickhale4348 my daughter is 3 y/o but I always encourage my nephews to learn to change a flat tire because one day maybe triple A won't be available a couple are into slammed. Trucks and stuff when I was 12 I helped one of my older brothers to flip cars back in late 80's early 90'S we didn't have a place with the space to work on the cars so in a couple years I could swap a rear diff D To D from a 1979 Red trans am in 40 minutes without an impact just regular basic ratchet till this day I still look up to him and love him not only as my brother but what he did for me your son will feel the same way going to the mall or Facebook wont teach kids anything waste of time God bless brother be safe
@musclecarmitch908
@musclecarmitch908 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I worked in the brake line industry for 22 year's and that compression fitting is just hideous! I feel sorry for the person who bought this car! They surely have money to burn, sadly they will probably pass this shoddy work on to another buyer in the future. But hopefully they will have all the bugs worked out by a good mechanic in the future if all this is brought to their attention, but there already in the hole on it in my opinion. It is great to see someone like yourself though that have learned these cars and are keeping the dream alive. Us old boomer's are getting too old to work on them now and I'm glad to see another generation carrying the torch!
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Completely agreed. I’m trying to keep the dream alive. Haha.
@joemancini3258
@joemancini3258 Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage "Alive" . . operative word
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL Жыл бұрын
Just saw the article that a Ford Crown Vic can be converted into a late '60's Dodge Charger!
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn Жыл бұрын
Owner probably earns 170g a month
@patrickwayne3701
@patrickwayne3701 Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL you can wrap a turd in tinfoil too.....
@anthonybrown2426
@anthonybrown2426 Жыл бұрын
I worked at a local auto parts store when I was 18 years old. One of the other guys was waiting on a customer asking for 3/16 compression fittings and the customer also asked him if he could use them on brake lines. My coworker replied….. If you wish to die. He then explained how much pressure was in the normal braking system and then what compression fitting were rated around. The customer purchased the correct brake lines along with double flaring tool. I myself purchase lines and couplers to lengths that I never need to cut and double flare brake lines. The only use I have for compression fittings is transmission and fuel lines. This was and is a great and informative video. Thank you
@OlJarhead
@OlJarhead 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully the guy that “restored” that car isn’t an aircraft mechanic in his spare time.
@easygoing2479
@easygoing2479 8 ай бұрын
Maybe he works at Boeing installing door plugs on new 737s.
@jagdpanther9
@jagdpanther9 Жыл бұрын
You jamie are an honest and fourthright man. I 100% agree with you and this video. The ugly fact is that there are thousands more "restorations" like this that need to be called out....and proly never will be.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
I know it. In talking to Tom about making this video, he said “that’s every auction car” and I’m afraid he’s probably right. What put this on my radar is that it sold for $20-40k over the estimated price of a beautiful Hemi car at a different auction earlier this year. While I don’t know what that car actually sold for, it just seems completely insane. I wanted to know why, so I started scrolling through pictures and found this stuff. It truly boggles the mind.
@tomhergert
@tomhergert Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage "that's every auction car" is a bit of an exaggeration but a lot of them are like this and more reason to not buy a car of this value site unseen. See it in person before you buy/bid or hire someone to do an inspection. Way cheaper for that than getting stuck with a 6 digit turd.
@apatheticempathy
@apatheticempathy 7 ай бұрын
>>> === They say E bodys : 71 Challenger or Cuda / B bodys : 68 Charger or Daytona / C bodys : 71 Fury Sport. These Mopar type alone will ALWAYS bring VERY TOP ... T O P dollar. True supply and demand never lies I guess. ===
@chrisriner2156
@chrisriner2156 Жыл бұрын
As a novice mechanic I appreciate your video very much. Luckily my dream car Classic I got a couple of years ago is solid.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Nice! Mine is mostly solid. Haha. Much better than I ever figured I could get so I’m happy.
@feelinfine1973
@feelinfine1973 Жыл бұрын
I seen this car go across the block and it's ridiculous!! It's a sad day in Moparland when you see shit like this sell for exorbitant amounts of $! Thank you for the time/effort you put in to making this upload!! Well done sir!! ✌️ from Iowa
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ Жыл бұрын
Did you seen?
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you got to be jay Leno to buy over priced jalopies like this
@buythematicket
@buythematicket Жыл бұрын
Fools with money.
@Popwarner-x1w
@Popwarner-x1w Жыл бұрын
@@BruceLee-xn3nn I'm sure Jay Leno knows what to look for before he buys a car.
@BruceLee-xn3nn
@BruceLee-xn3nn Жыл бұрын
@@Popwarner-x1w I was talking about the 170g price tag. I'm sure that's chump change to Jay
@scottberdak196
@scottberdak196 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your observations on this Charger. I'm a 1969 Camaro expert and have seen many Camaros for sale at Mecum and Barrett Jackson that say original, but are not correct. They may have a deluxe interior, then don't have the deluxe installed seat belts, or missing the wood grain trim on the dashboard areas. Seen many RS optioned Camaros missing the headlight washer nozzles in the pictures that also are part of the RS package. These are just a few examples. All I can say is "Buyer Beware!"
@howardjohnson6189
@howardjohnson6189 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, “buyer beware cause seller’s don’t care!”
@JRC99
@JRC99 Жыл бұрын
I know in '68s the deluxe belts were a separate option from the rest of the interior. Was that different in 1969?
@Chris-v4z1t
@Chris-v4z1t 6 ай бұрын
Car looks to be sitting lower than standard or is it ?
@WilliamSlager
@WilliamSlager 8 ай бұрын
Hats off to you for you are very insightful and also polite with your assessments on this channel. First I'll say that in my opinion, this is probably the best color charger R/Ts came in and it looks like a beautiful paint job up close. I totally agree at this price range it should have continuous lines. throughout. In all honesty I've used the compression fittings on many cars 70's-80's cars of my own and never had any problems. I never knew their rating was low. I was eight years old when this car was built and our neighbor Eddie had a Charger 500 in pale yellow that I used to see every day. Long before I could drive, I already loved the style of that car. None of the cars sold at Mecum look like an original car did back then. They weren't that shiny, they didn't all have mag wheels and tinted glass, or consoles. It is hard to believe the prices that are paid . I'm also amazed how many classic American cars are still preserved in general. There are still hundreds of thousands of them in all makes and years. Remarkable.
@apatheticempathy
@apatheticempathy 7 ай бұрын
>>> === They say E bodys : 71 Challenger or Cuda / B bodys : 68 Charger or Daytona / C bodys : 71 Fury Sport. These Mopar type alone will ALWAYS bring VERY TOP ... T O P dollar. True supply and demand never lies I guess. ===
@tonyb3864
@tonyb3864 Жыл бұрын
I have been to alot of Mecum auctions. The cars look great on TV but in person most of them are a real shit show. Still I keep going just because I like to see in person what's for sale and what they sell for. It makes me feel better about what I have.
@hemibeep
@hemibeep Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe $170k for that. It’s sad that the market has priced out the enthusiast.
@jimbrown5055
@jimbrown5055 Жыл бұрын
The old adage of "buyer beware" surely fits this one.
@howardbrandt7405
@howardbrandt7405 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Thanks for holding some hack's, feet to the fire. It's sad that there is so much of this type of thing going on. It's ruining the hobby for everyone. Keep up the great work!👍👍👍
@alcyr5655
@alcyr5655 Жыл бұрын
Compression fitting on a brake line. Yikes if you were willing to do that, I'm curious about the electrical and fuel system. Shop full of Mopars, I subscribed. Demon has always been on my wish list, right there with a 4 spd AAR
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
That’s exactly my point! It’s great we can see that… but what can’t we see? It just says everything is bad to me. Everything on that car demands scrutiny. Thanks! I love the Demon. That was a deal several years in the making. There is a whole playlist on my channel called Dale’s Demon if you want to learn more. Now that I have a lift I hope to be making more videos on that soon! It needs a transmission… third and fourth gear have left the building…
@ML-dl1cp
@ML-dl1cp Жыл бұрын
compression fittings in the electrical system, too. You don't want the amps leaking out onto the driveway.
@cinosweiv1831
@cinosweiv1831 Жыл бұрын
I am an car fan and enjoy watching the auction shows to see cars I will never own. I remember this car, and gave it a glance through the photo's and thought to myself, "pretty nice". When you started pointing out things, I was like "how did I miss that?!" looking at the under front, I NEVER noticed the sway bar missing, let alone the neon orange strap. again, HOW did I miss that? was I even looking??. I would say, "Nope". I will definitely pay closer attention, and while I know absolutely SQUAT about fittings, I did think, "that brake line looks out of place". This from the guy who didn't even notice the neon orange masking tape. I swear, I really need to get my eyes checked. Thanks for showing me that I have a lot to learn.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
I have bought several cars with issues I really should’ve noticed, but didn’t until later when the rose colored glasses came off… sometimes these things happen when we get excited about stuff.
@patrickwayne3701
@patrickwayne3701 Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage Dude, we are also affected by the masses being willing to offer up buckets of money for shytte that shouldn't be ALLOWED on the auction carpet. Mecum is just swimming in the tailwash of Barrett Jackson. And Barrett Jackson had cars with visible rust back in '87. They've upped their screening and game, to where they won't LET a shyster like this car builder on their carpet. Creating a market for also rans, like Mecum and Russo Steele. Let alone Kruse in Northern Indiana. They got so crooked their owner was removed from the business by regulatory agencies.
@jeffpriem4888
@jeffpriem4888 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Charger R/T that I have sooo much more now. Thank you for the wholesome entertainment and intelligent perspective
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Honestly glad mine is just a 383 car. It’s exactly what I wanted! But that R/T badge would have been neat. Haha. Thanks for watching!
@robertlock7088
@robertlock7088 Жыл бұрын
I worked at a Plymouth dealer as a tech in 1975 and bought a one owner 71,000 mile 68 RT auto running no rust for 200.00 dollars. After I sold my 1971 Pontiac gt37 leMans
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Oh to have been around in those times…
@paradiseroadrestorations
@paradiseroadrestorations Жыл бұрын
I agree with your assessment of this car 100%. Pretty rough undercarriage for that kind of money too. Oil pan looks hammered as well.
@joeparson9967
@joeparson9967 Жыл бұрын
Maybe too much time has passed since I paid attention to the auctions/ prices but in my humble opinion for $170, 000 the car should be pretty much perfect. BTW , I fell in love with your 68’ Charger. Very nice car.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I completely agree. Even given how crazy the market is today, a 440 R/T at that price point should be absolutely flawless. Yes I love mine. It’s not perfect by any stretch, but by my standards it’s amazing. It’s basically parked for the winter currently, except for the odd dry weekend drive.
@ML-dl1cp
@ML-dl1cp Жыл бұрын
I'm in Canada and even with late 60s Chargers being relatively rare, a 68 R/T just sold in my area for $70k (about US $52,000) and it was pretty much 8/10 and with all work done properly and a receipt book to prove it. For $170k here you could get three, and have them personally delivered by Scarlett Johannson in a French maid outfit.
@garymckee63
@garymckee63 Жыл бұрын
Amen you spoke the complete truth about the build quality of 68- 70 Chrysler products because l owned many when a working man could afford one.
@gregvanderboom5011
@gregvanderboom5011 Жыл бұрын
I saw yesterday that Tyler Hovie's Hemi superbird go for only 170K at auction. While it was a funky restomod I would have brought the superbird.
@2010deanML
@2010deanML Жыл бұрын
Hoovies bird was the same story as this car when he got it. At least his car was gone through and fixed and documented for all the world to see so you know you're getting a drivable car
@JackHood-gy3cj
@JackHood-gy3cj 7 ай бұрын
As a 16 year old I bought a 383charger non RT from my hometown dodge dealer exactly the same colors as this one for $1300 in late 1972. It had about 80,000 miles already because it belonged to a military guy. The good news is the dealer had freshly rebuilt the motor and it was a very clean car. I drove the heck out of it for about three years and sold it for $1200. It was a great car. I couldn’t afford one now.
@Mercmad
@Mercmad Жыл бұрын
I worked for a short time at a very high end resto shop ,where one job involved reassembling a a 300Letter car . The owner was already into it for $250,000 when I got it running and the engine,a 413,had horrendous piston slap. . I told the owner it needed rebuilding and he got pretty upset as it had already eaten $40,000 . When we got it going it was sent off to a alignment specialist who refused to let it be driven back to the shop because the steering box,rebuilt by a very pricey shop here in my city, was no good. I sent it back to the US where it was rebuilt for less than the cost of freighting it to and from the USA. Lots of things were wrong with the car despite the money spent and i could only put it down to the shops company management cutting corners to to gain more profit. I decided to leave at that point. Recently the car sold for just over $75,000.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Wow. Yeah… making money is one thing. Charge enough to do a good job (not, you know, $1000 an hour) and do it right the first time. I’ve been in business for myself. My big challenge was trying to charge enough to pay the bills and survive. I just couldn’t take people like that. Those guys on the high end have the charging part down…
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 Жыл бұрын
If the engine, transmission and rear end were in very good to excellent condition, and the AC worked, I doubt that was the case though, then maybe $30,000 to $40,000. I've owned three 440 magnum MOPARS and one 340. 1968 Charger RT, 1969 GTX, 1970 Challenger RT/SE and the 1972 340 Challenger. The best was the 1969 GTX that I bought from the original owner when it was one and a half years old. They all had AC, power steering, power brakes and automatic trans. Actually, they all were in practically new condition. This car for that ridiculous price is sh t! The seller made out/was a bandit, and the buyer was a fool. I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I'll sell to him...
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ Жыл бұрын
Uh, what? I fell asleep halfway....
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 Жыл бұрын
@@CaptainCraigKWMRZ no matter
@Kirby1969
@Kirby1969 Жыл бұрын
Great video and walk thru for buyers. The auctions and people with more money then actual interest in cars, have ruined the hobby. It doesn't matter if the buyer can afford to have it fixed. This terrible purchase just artificially inflated the price of these cars. And that sucks for blue collar car lovers who will actually wrench and drive their cars.
@MH-53E
@MH-53E Жыл бұрын
Yes there needs to be a lot more videos like this one. I think the auction house should bare some responsibility, but as always it's buyer beware.
@Eric-te6sk
@Eric-te6sk 2 ай бұрын
That’s an expensive lesson.If you can spend so recklessly,you’re keeping the shady bastards in business.
@fredanddebramacdonald2445
@fredanddebramacdonald2445 3 ай бұрын
I worked at a NAPA store years ago, and those compression fittings were an item that sold well. A lot of old cars had these fittings in their brake systems, but sold for under $1,,000, not $170,000. I think the person who bought the Charger is entitled to about a $150,000 refund. Buyer beware!!!
@staceyrenner5418
@staceyrenner5418 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the seller at least had the decency to use any lube when they f***ed the buyer? You hit the nail on the head with this one Jaime, I guarantee your Charger is in far better shape than this thing.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Seriously. And again that’s not even the point I was trying to make. Not trying to make myself feel better or anything. Haha. I just feel bad for the buyer. And for the owner that sold it if they had to pay for that “restoration” job.
@joemancini3258
@joemancini3258 Жыл бұрын
Right on man. I see trash work like this alot. Recently had a Super bee come in that had a Grant steering wheel that the owner wanted to put back an original. The car came out of a name restoration shop. I got the wheel off and the aluminum adaptor and realized that the steering shaft was UPSIDE DOWN so that the blind spline was 180 out and they had just mashed the aluminum adaptor over the steel steering shaft because it was softer. Had to remove the shaft from the box and rotate it then put the original on with the splines lined up. Stupid people man. My wife even laughed at this one.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Absolutely maddening. A lot of what I do with old cars is going in behind people that don’t know and fixing dumb stuff - usually on the tune up and runability side of things.
@stuckinmygarage6220
@stuckinmygarage6220 Жыл бұрын
Cool wife 👍
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL Жыл бұрын
Just saw the article that a Ford Crown Vic can be converted into a late '60's Dodge Charger!
@joemancini3258
@joemancini3258 Жыл бұрын
@@stuckinmygarage6220 The best!!!
@joemancini3258
@joemancini3258 Жыл бұрын
@@BuzzLOLOL Saw that too, you have to Flip Over and Read Directions. . . .
@autopar3000
@autopar3000 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Hopefully it's a "more money than brains" scenario. It would be sad if a hard working blue collar guy just spent his life savings on that car.
@evelghostrider
@evelghostrider 6 ай бұрын
Buyer beware... whoever bought this was a speculator hoping to make a ton of cash
@jamessturrock6802
@jamessturrock6802 2 ай бұрын
I bought 73 Dodge Charger SE Brougham from a guy who had Mecum try to offer to sell it for him. I may have spent more than it's worth and it had typical 50 year old issues. But solid and mostly original. But I knew what I was getting into and checked it over completely before buying. That brake line you showed, froze my heart. DAAAAAMN!!! that's bad.
@dinadaughtry8993
@dinadaughtry8993 Жыл бұрын
Good video I also like chargers and there's a lot of stuff that is easy to hide especially some very unsafe rust situations, the market has gotten ruthless for these cars
@jr1827
@jr1827 Жыл бұрын
You're totally picking it apart and you have very valid points too many mistakes too many problems for that price mopar is expensive 170000 should get you a completely finished car
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL Жыл бұрын
Just saw the article that a Ford Crown Vic can be converted into a late '60's Dodge Charger!
@BuzzLOLOL
@BuzzLOLOL Жыл бұрын
Looks like it was done by a 'bodyman' with limited mechanical skill... but body is the expensive stuff...
@ksavage681
@ksavage681 Жыл бұрын
170,00 should get you a NOS new car with 10 miles on it.
@michaelbuteau4183
@michaelbuteau4183 Жыл бұрын
I've been to a lot of Barrett-Jackson Auctions and they sell a lot of junk too and I've owned quite a few 68 Dodge Chargers and one Daytona and you're right none of them are perfect but I did have a couple of good ones the best one was when I was 17 I had a 68 Dodge Charger with the 440 and that was a lot of fun for a 17 year old
@cwrighta70
@cwrighta70 7 ай бұрын
And this is why I've resigned to the fact that I will never own my dream car. I don't make enough to compete in the market, and supporting my family is more important anyway. I'll have to continue to live vicariously through YT channels like this.
@pjmazar4533
@pjmazar4533 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the insight of the compression fitting on the brake line. No one has ever brought that to my attention. I used a compression fitting when I installed a dual master cylinder on my 1961 Chevy Impala back in 1982. I still had that fitting when I installed power disc brakes on the front in 2020. That fitting is now 30+ years old and has traveled about 100,000 miles. At this point, I'm not sure what to do. You know the saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 8 ай бұрын
There are lots of them out in the wild on brake lines. It can work… but it’s not the right way to do it.
@p38kris
@p38kris Жыл бұрын
As much as I'd like a charger I'd never pay over 40k
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
I paid 52.5k, and at the time I thought it was a mistake. Luckily I basically paid for it with profit from other sales, and I thought no matter what happens I’ll be ok. Plus I was able to drive it home 300 miles. Still… I think you’re thinking right.
@Rhondaandjames
@Rhondaandjames Ай бұрын
Brother, in the last five years this has become depressingly common. There are whole shops that do nothing but slap together and flip classic cars and then sell them at auctions. I have seen many cars that were so bad they were literal death traps. we're talking unmounted brake calipers, bodies barely connected the the frame. Rotted out frame rails covered in bondo, frame components literally missing, chunks of two by four replacing transmission mounts. fenders mounted on tack welded scrap steel because the actual mounts had rusted away. you just wouldn't believe it. I would guess probably half of all the classic cars going through recent auctions and for sale at classic car dealers are in this kind of shape
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Ай бұрын
Oh, I know it… I’ve seen way worse than this. It’s just that this one was as bad as it was, but sold for top, top dollar for one of these cars that bothers me.
@robvarlow3455
@robvarlow3455 Жыл бұрын
hi there,,am in canada,i had the 69 r/t 440 magnum auto,marine aqua blue white vinyl roof and a 383 68 charger,red/black auto.paid 400 dollars each in 1984/and 94,traded for body and paint on a baby monster truck stupid ay still hurts but know where there is garage finds still parked 40 years thanks for your channel cheers...
@kcole4001
@kcole4001 Жыл бұрын
I worked in auto parts for 18 years and have had customers leave mad because I wouldn't sell them a compression fitting after they told me they were going to use it on a brake line. They still insisted it was fine after I said that may be one of my kids out there on road that they hit when the brakes fail, so then I told them to get out. Compression fittings do NOT belong on brake line no matter what the value of the car. Anyway, good call on that auction sale, it's bad all the way round. I always hankered after a '71 Charger SE but just can't afford even a beater. All the best.
@VchaosTheoryV
@VchaosTheoryV 6 ай бұрын
0:33 For not being an advertisement, that actually looked really good
@howardbutler4184
@howardbutler4184 Жыл бұрын
Great observation my brother, excellent points to all the flaw’s in the vehicle for what it sold for. Thank you for your expertise and your experience in what to look for when purchasing classic Automobiles. Your on spot in your in your observation great job can’t wait until the next video.
@makofett7404
@makofett7404 Жыл бұрын
I really despise persons who get into our car hobby because it became popular and expensive due to car rarity and then dont rebuild the car correctly. Drives me nuts to see all the incorrect things on so cold original cars! I say the same for GM and Ford because ive come to appreciate all the rare examples. But as a mopar fan since I was 12 and have had my charger since I was 14 and now 50, STOP doing this! Not to mention you could kill this new owner whne they decide to hit the expressway and flog it or god forbid….powertour! Great video brother!
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations 8 ай бұрын
This is a case where both seller and buyer should be publicly shamed.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 8 ай бұрын
Done!
@Dslats
@Dslats 9 ай бұрын
MECUM IS RESPONSIBLE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO HAVE THEIR PEOPLE CHECK THE CAR OUT BEFORE IT GOES ON THEIR AUCTION BLOCK SO PEOPLE BUYING DON'T GET RIPPED OFF.
@petergrey7125
@petergrey7125 Ай бұрын
I would think they would at least be responsible for making sure the car is safe. 👍
@clembob8004
@clembob8004 11 ай бұрын
There was this thing called "Dodge Fever" back in the 60s, but the worst that could ever happen to someone with "the fever" is they would end up with a brand new straight-off-the-showroom-floor Dodge, and a few thousand dollars poorer. Nowadays, there is this thing called "Charger Fever" and the "fevered" can end up with a questionable (at best) Charger and a LOT of money poorer. In this case, a Charger with signs of things done wrong from front to back for $170K. This is nuts. People really need to come to their senses. Just because it's a 68-70 Charger does NOT mean it's worth an unlimited amount of money. If I had $170K to blow on a car, I would expect a car with virtually nothing wrong with it, and no improvements to be made. A turn-key car that I can just get in and drive and enjoy, PERIOD. If I want something to tinker on like this car, then I am giong to spend a LOT less money.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@FMChimera
@FMChimera Жыл бұрын
These auctions are ruining the hobby. But having played this game myself, people have to understand these auctions re the same three hundred guys showing whose wallet is bigger each time. The peripheral people are the ones who get burned like this. Important take away from the above statement is not the often bad cars, it's the size of the core buyer group. All of whom are getting on in years. They've driven prices to insane levels...and as they pull out and die off over the next decade those values are going to tank. Be very careful about how much you sink into any collector car at this point because the salad days are just about over, at least for a while.
@gerechoppers
@gerechoppers Жыл бұрын
People with crazy money to spend usually aren’t mechanically inclined and know what to look for. I know a local rich guy that bought a 1969 Camaro at one of these auctions and I don’t think he was ever even able to drive it. It was nice and shiny, but was a total piece of junk mechanically. It’s hard to determine who’s at fault, the goofball selling it, or the goofball buying it.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Everyone involved in the transaction is at fault - and all of us lose.
@stevenbelue5496
@stevenbelue5496 Жыл бұрын
The only thing that really upsets me is the compression fitting, I could understand if it was a "try to get it home" or "on a trailer" thing but it was not. Everything is an easy fix, well to me but I've worked with cars my entire life, but for that kind of money I do agree it should have been meticulously finished. I assume we've reached a point where the scarcity of these cars has put a 7 out of 10 or better in that price range.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
The price range is what makes all of this a problem. It’s not at all uncommon or unexpected to have to work through problems and shortcomings when buying a car. Hell, that’s a good part of the fun. And - many people have commented to tell me they think the compression fitting is fine. I don’t get it.
@NitroModelsAndComics
@NitroModelsAndComics 6 ай бұрын
My Uncle Steve had a black 440 68.. He raced it a lot and sold it to buy an SS Chevelle (1970). I loved that car.
@redline1916
@redline1916 Жыл бұрын
All those "collector car auctions" usually sell junk for millions of dollars or too much. They're the reason the collector car market got so saturated to have cars worth less than the amount paid at auction to skyrocket to those same prices. It's the same thing like having those funko pop guys enter your crowd and say they've got the rarest shit of all when it's just a repainted and remodeled piece of plastic in a paper housing.
@richardleser6505
@richardleser6505 11 ай бұрын
Jamie, you most certainly are not wrong. You are extremely right this is the reason why the price for Mopars has gone absolutely through the clouds in the sky!!!!
@Mister-Whiskers
@Mister-Whiskers Жыл бұрын
My father bought a Red 68’ Charger with a 383 magnum brand new in 68’…we towed our StarCraft pop up camper with it for several years…I still have a picture of my father standing in front of it with the camper in the background…the good old days.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
That’s so cool. I would love to do that with mine - or maybe tow a small boat. Our station wagon is probably the better choice though. More room for family and dogs, and 440 torque!
@LudwigVon
@LudwigVon Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked they actually have the delete plate for the dash bezel. I've restored the rally dash for a '68 super Bee, even sent every gauge out for stenciling, and this dash was worse off than what I started with usually. And that dash emblem is almost always missing.
@IhateYoutube
@IhateYoutube Жыл бұрын
Good lord that is horrible! I recently bought a 72 Challenger off a friend of mine and I am so thankful he documented the whole 10+ year reto-mod-eration. Every single part was documented with pictures. And honestly after seeing this I am just gonna say my 72 has to be worth 60+ grand LOL Way too many shady fly by night "resto" shops slapping pretty paint over garbage to dump at the auctions. Great video!
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
I paid 52,500 for my Charger, which is just stupid… but I looked it over and knew exactly what it was. I’m happy.
@IhateYoutube
@IhateYoutube Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage Yeah that's not out of line at all especially when you know it's provenance. I went 45 on my 72 but it was a full ground up resto mod with all new sheet metal, tied chassis, full hotkiss front and rear suspension, a freshly built 410 EFI stroker and more. Kinda wish it had a Gen 3 Hellcat in it and maybe over time I will do something like that, but I really don't want to hack up new floor pans to make room for an 8 speed or six speed. I look at Vanguard all the time and see the prices of the Challengers, Chargers, Chevelles etc.. Now their stuff all looks like top notch builds but good lord that stuff is all approaching 200K. It would be nice to have that kind of cash to throw at a new build though.. I've been drooling over the Kryptonite Challenger lately and mine looks like a Great Value version of that LOL I have a short vid on my page if you want to take a look. I need to upload a better video.
@Flying_Fetus
@Flying_Fetus 7 ай бұрын
All these idiots do is set precedents so high that nobody in my generation can afford to appreciate the classics. I think thats a shame.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 7 ай бұрын
I agree.
@johnjennings2672
@johnjennings2672 9 ай бұрын
I know a guy in my car club who purchased multiple cars that looked "good" in the auction lane but had many issues making them unsafe for driving. Sellers, I was told, had plenty of excuses...
@electricgamez5415
@electricgamez5415 Жыл бұрын
People assume everything at these “high end” auctions are expertly restored. The buyer probably has a few bucks and is new to the collector car market. Tough lesson learned.
@MrSloika
@MrSloika 11 ай бұрын
"Things warp. They rust. They don't fit right. They just weren't that well made." You pretty much described just about every American car made in the 1960s. For example, the original Mustang was just a Falcon in a nicer clothes. The Falcon was an El Cheapo economy car. The cars you see today at car shows look better than the factory original cars ever did.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 11 ай бұрын
Oh absolutely. As a Mopar guy - and someone working in restorations now - I am well familiar with factory original flaws, as well as "over restored" cars. These things absolutely weren't perfect, and never really will be. I've driven a bunch of classic Mustangs... one drove pretty well. One. There's a reason I love Mopars - flaws and all.
@renchjeep
@renchjeep Жыл бұрын
The sad fact is that lots of these buyers have more money than sense. Yeah, they might have their mechanic look the car over before driving it, but that's highly doubtful. And who knows if their mechanic is gonna catch all the unsafe features. There is a LOT that can go wrong when piloting a 50 year old muscle car down the road, especially when it's driven "spiritedly", which most of us do, and you can bet the buyer of this Charger romped on it when he got it. Hopefully he managed to avoid maiming or killing himself and others. It's scary out there, boys and girls!
@irocker350
@irocker350 9 ай бұрын
Holy smokes, can't believe that someone shelled out $170k for that thing. That's insane
@stephenboitoult8774
@stephenboitoult8774 Жыл бұрын
I'm a poor but relatively honest retired mechanic in the UK. For amusement, I build, in a wooden shed, restomods on classic Triumph Dolomites, usually with more modern fuel injected GM engines and transmissions. Not that I sell them, but if I did they would be relatively low budget cars, maybe only £12k max. But NOTHING i've done, even on my WORST day, is as bad as that Charger. As hard up as I am, I have an ancient Pickavent pipe flaring tool for making hard brake lines (cost me a couple of hundred new, 30 years ago) Even so, using that compression fitting, probably designed for central heating, is unforgivable. ANY garage worth it's salt will have a tool like mine and would have made a new pair of pipes to pattern (the other one looked pretty rusty too) for only a few bucks, Hell, in the UK you can buy a whole SET of hard lines for most classic cars, made in cupro nickel so they don't rust away EVER again, for around £100. I bet that goes for the Charger over there too! It's not only dangerous bodging, it's UN-NECESSARY dangerous bodging!
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Exactly! It’s not like flaring a line is all that difficult! Annoying, maybe. And takes a few minutes more than this bad repair. But not that difficult. That does sound amusing!
@johnnymula2305
@johnnymula2305 7 ай бұрын
Ive been doing body and paint for a guy who has been selling classic cars at Mecum for the past 20 years. As much as i enjoy and appreciate classics. As a shop owner. We have to listen to what the client wants and within their budget. So we constantly throw lipstick on a pig. I hate doing it. But if i dont do the work. Someone else will gladly do it. I also see it this way. If someones spending that much money on a car, and doesnt have it properly inspected. They deserve to get screwed over. Unfortunately, theres so much money to be made in this industry. Its allowed a ton of shoddy, half assed jobs to earn people big bucks.
@RP-tz6jv
@RP-tz6jv 7 ай бұрын
Richard Rawlings must have been drunk AGAIN 😂
@Darryl-69SE
@Darryl-69SE 5 ай бұрын
I just rewatched this video. This is a great video!!! Really informational. Keep doing them.
@papawoody9597
@papawoody9597 Жыл бұрын
That car is "restored" in the same way that Yoko Ono is a "singer". Whoever bought it either didn't look at it, or just doesn't know anything about cars, and overpaid by $100k to $120k. The seller was probably even astonished that they fleeced some poor sucker to the tune of $170k plus fees for this rolling nightmare. Everything you pointed out tells me that this car has more problems than a run over dog. If any metal work was done, I'd love to see the welds, and wouldn't be at all surprised to see brazing or "booger welds" that didn't even penetrate enough to fuse the panels. The quarters and rockers probably have more plastic in them than Pam Anderson and Cher combined. This car could be really nice, but it really, really isn't. It's an example of what I mean when I say, "A fool and his money are soon headed to a car auction."
@ScottGovey
@ScottGovey Жыл бұрын
Sad thing is my buddy and I and another buddy restored a 68 super bee, not factory original but close and only had around 35k in it. So I don't get why people can't take pride in their work. The compression fitting on the brake line is a major no no and used to be illegal to install on brake lines, now they did have steel compression fittings for brake lines but thats besides the point, we bought all the brake lines new in stainless pre bent for the super bee for lil over $200 shipped. And they fit great no issues. So yeah wth?
@HOTWHEELSCOTT
@HOTWHEELSCOTT 8 ай бұрын
At $170K I don’t want to have to completely disassemble the car I just bought… Great video. 👍👍
@user-vn7un4uu6g
@user-vn7un4uu6g 8 ай бұрын
Just subscribed. Wanted to say thanks for educating anybody who saw the compression fitting and didn't understand why it was so wrong. 30 years ago I did a hydraulic clutch conversion in a Jeep . I needed it moving and had to cobble the line back together to the slave. I used a compression fitting.....and it worked. What I didn't understand was the continued cycling of pressure worked the fitting to failure. I didn't crash and I learned a lesson. Brakes are a different matter. Your first failure is potentially your last.
@giantgeoff
@giantgeoff 8 ай бұрын
Yeah you do a repair to get you to a place where you can do a proper repair. My automotive education began with John Muir's "How to keep Your Volkswagen Alive and Well for the Compleat Idiot!" It held a lot of lessons about how and why on mechanics an life and I found it way better than Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
@Oldschool_car_nut-oo3ox
@Oldschool_car_nut-oo3ox 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, if I was spending that kind of money I would want to inspect it in person or have someone I trust inspect it. A car can look completely different in real life to what it does in a group of pictures. It would have to be a great deal to just buy it based on pictures.
@markdavis3362
@markdavis3362 Жыл бұрын
This is an old post so I don't know if anybody will read it, but here I go. I started work at my first garage in 1987 after graduation. The compression fitting you are showing look pretty much like the ones we used on cars from that time that came right from our brake fittings bins supplied from our brake parts supplier. I will not mention their name but you "Might" guess it. I never had a problem with them. I have a 1979 Aspen Rt that had them on it when I bought it 25yrs ago. It has seen harder and longer braking than most of the cars I've ever owned. I would never install one of these now, but maybe the old ones were better or a lot of people were just lucky. If I bought something now and saw them I would definitely get rid of them, but I wouldn't judge something that might have been done before standards changed.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but that one looks like it was just installed. There are zillions of those things in service in brake systems. Many commenters have said as much. I realize that this isn’t that uncommon. That doesn’t mean it’s a good idea… a flare connection is the right way to go. And on a $180,000 car… could they not just afford a replacement brake line? They aren’t that expensive…
@markdavis3362
@markdavis3362 Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage I agree, at that price everything should be premium. I just found your channel and like what you are doing. Congratulations on it!
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
@@markdavis3362 Thank you!
@coleacanth8944
@coleacanth8944 6 ай бұрын
Dumb and disappointing. The auctions and the pay-pigs who line their pockets do seem to run-up the hobby to unapproachable levels for people who would love to drive them around.
@gprice5640
@gprice5640 29 күн бұрын
It comes down to ONE thing....people have too much money. And they drive up prices on everything, trying to be it. Which they never will be.
@22kpar1xcyberdyne9
@22kpar1xcyberdyne9 Жыл бұрын
Compression fittings are actually a common cheap fix I see regularly. They do leak eventually. You can actually tighten any line or fitting properly to ensure they don't leak but few people know what to do. So here is the proper procedure to tighten any line, fitting, or coupling. First snug it on both sides, then go back and apply more pressure so it is tight... but wait, here is the trick... take a magic marker and draw a line across all the pieces in the connection. Now go back and lightly loosen the fitting then retorque it. You will notice that you can actually gain about 1/4 more of a turn on it. Then... don't forget to firmly attach a body clip to eliminate vibrations. Vibrations cause leaks and breaks in hydraulic lines (booms on backhoes, diesel injector lines, etc). Lastly, the mismatched paint on the doors and quarter panels is caused by 1 or 2 things. The painter failed to keep the whole gallon of metallic mixture continously swirled every 5 minutes OR they painted the door at 30 psi and then the quarter panel at 50 psi, open the fan spray width. These conditions cause metallic paints to alter their tone.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
We’ve got a non-metallic yellow Cuda at work currently with similar mismatched paint problems, so there are definitely several ways to skin that cat… getting that extra “cinch” is definitely essential to get flares to seat. I stand by what I said about using compression fittings in brake systems. And yes, I know people do it all the time. They shouldn’t. I personally don’t want a fitting that will “leak eventually” holding 2000 PSI of pressure inside my braking system.
@forterierocks
@forterierocks Жыл бұрын
My buddy bought a 67 Camaro 350 auto a few years ago and he got burned, engine was actually a 305 with a 350 air cleaner, it had no rear brakes at all, damn near every bolt in the front end was loose or just the wrong bolt, it was listed as rewired with a Painless wiring kit, not half the wiring was speaker wire you'd use in your house, car was an absolute mess and he paid $48,000 for it certified from a dealership, took almost a year in court to win his case and get his money back, no idea where the car ended up?
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
Good lord… that’s really bad. But honestly doesn’t sound that crazy today. There are tons of dealers selling that kind of garbage all over. It’s a big problem. Buyer beware…
@outspokengenius
@outspokengenius 7 ай бұрын
The compression fitting is one of those things that's just not going to go away. DIY'ers use them, dealerships use them, and auto parts stores sell them in a little rotating rack that says "brake fittings" on it so good luck getting rid of them. I only recently learned that most of them are not DOT approved and technically illegal to use on the road but I can name a slew of local dealerships and even commercial repair shops that use them.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 7 ай бұрын
Yeap… there are a whole lot of them on the road unfortunately.
@tcorris
@tcorris 8 ай бұрын
Brass compression fittings are for household plumbing pressure. There are compression fittings that can withstand well above automotive brake pressures, but they aren’t made of brass. In a pinch, I’ve used a stainless Swagelok fitting. But for $170k, I’d expect the brake line to have no unions. This isn’t a vehicle that exceeds the length of brake lines stocked by parts stores or repair shops.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 8 ай бұрын
Right - that too. But factory reproductions are also readily available. There *are* fittings that can do this safely. That isn’t one. And yeah - for $170k…
@bustbeel1
@bustbeel1 10 ай бұрын
You are 100 % Correct I am a restorer and that what I am seeing is really a misrepresentation of a true classic that is safe? I would rather have a clean body to start with and build it myself!
@Chris-bw9bq
@Chris-bw9bq 10 ай бұрын
Videos like this make me feel so fortunate I was able to get my 72 nova from the second owner with all original parts even trim and emblems original paint and no body work ever done. It might have a tiny bit of usual nova rear fender rust but no flashy paint hiding shotty body work or weird short cuts. I think it is REALLY important these days to try to find something super solid for less money and do the work yourself then trust these really nice looking "restorations". These cars are just too old and most have changed hands so many times it is impossible to know the true build quality after all the years of guys wrenching on these things in their backyards.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage 10 ай бұрын
I feel the same way about my Demon - and to a lesser extent, my Charger. The Demon is almost all original paint. The original V belts are in a box… I don’t have the original tires or the air that came out of them, but I have just about everything else. I know exactly what it is and what it isn’t. My Charger had some repairs and a cheap paint job done. It’s not amazing, but it’s easy to see what has been done, and it will be easy enough to redo later. It’s not a total hack job. I’d be very, very wary of anything that looks shiny and “new” like this.
@DanTheMailman330
@DanTheMailman330 6 ай бұрын
My dad bought that's color combo 68 r/t 4bbl 440 automatic new. Loved driving it but he said it must have been built at 4pm on a Friday. Everything leaked, rattled and didn't fit together properly. Drove him nuts and he sold it within 2 years.
@rickcowley8553
@rickcowley8553 Жыл бұрын
Did you notice the rubber hose on the transmission cooling lines? That is a transmission failure waiting to happen.
@DeadDodgeGarage
@DeadDodgeGarage Жыл бұрын
There was just way too much to point out. I would be upset to find rubber hose patches on the cooling lines of my $170k Charger, but in general, if done correctly, they’re fine.
@John-h6y8t
@John-h6y8t 7 ай бұрын
Buying a car from Mecum is a risky endeavor. I went to one of there auctions and learned real quick the cars aren't gone thru to verify quality.
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