Deadlifting in weightlifting shoes | Ask Rip #47

Mark Rippetoe answers questions during a Starting Strength Squat Camp at Wichita Falls Athletic Club held in March 2017. Attendees ask questions about using a cambered bar, weightlifting shoes, heartburn and The US Strengthlifting Federation.
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[@theredrepublic7973]

8:00 for the answer

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@@battlenations1073 beat me to it :P

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"i hate to be gay like this"... fucking love mark.

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"I hate to be gay like this but gluten..." I lost it hahaha.

[@kwastek]

15:10 , if anyone is looking ;)

[@derekf5495]

I love angry old guy teachers. Very knowledgeable, and experienced. The only problem I've found is a resistance to change, or adopt newer technologies /methods.

[@digitalsublime]

Because you see fads come and go and certain patterns repeat, you know is pretty much all bullshit...with only certain principles and practices that stand the test of time and experience. The fitness industry is skewed and bias because of money imperative/coercion. Rip here has pretty much the strength part figure out. Not so much the diet part.

[@LiftOffLife]

@@digitalsublime The diet part has been figured out by the Kinobody programmes incorporating intermittent fasting.

[@digitalsublime]

@@LiftOffLife Dude intermittent fasting is not from kinobody, is way older, and not even relevant. Kinobody is the prototypical youtube celeb fake and fad oriented.

[@LiftOffLife]

I am an avid fan of starting strength and yes I agree about the marketing of Kinobody.

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But you and I can change. Learn from them and make our own adaptations, I guess.

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I am really learning a lot from your videos! I'm doing better at the gym, and as a beginner, when I've gotten stuck not able to get to the gym, rewatching your videos has helped me to maintain form. The gym wants me to pay a trainer 3x/week; by watching your videos, I've been doing great with 1x/week. Great work! Thanks!

[@AbcDino843]

Speaking of heartburn and reflux, what COMPLETELY fixed it for me is C-PAP machine. I had pretty bad reflux, especially overnight, from January 2008 to September 2016. The night I started using a C-PAP machine for sleep apnea, it went away and never returned. Not once.

[@GIboy1990]

i have pain in my lower back when i deadlift. Ive recently switched to deadlifting in my squat shoes and realized my posterior chain is far more responsive and i no longer experience lower back pain, basically fixing my technique. I also have pulled the heaviest I've done from the floor wearing them.

[@hobson3724]

Interesting....thanks for sharing

[@robbyx6846]

So I can wear Nike romales

[@rustyblade9366]

I agree with what Rip said, I pull so much more with oly shoes. It's more than just the heel; it's the full support that makes the big difference for me. My feet are very narrow and small so it makes it hard to ballance on the foot barefeet or in just socks or flat shoes. The increased surface of the oly shoes and the arch support makes the deadlift 10 times easier.

[@Rhye_]

from 10:30 onwards all they talk about is heartburn.

[@23cjota]

This is like a miracle, I just bought my first pair of weightlifting shoes and my deadlifts feel a bit off...

[@aligboyakasha]

6:20 dude stares into your soul

[@cheikhkande]

HAHAHAHa i felt that!

[@00Noontide]

great content! thanks!

[@averagedude1986]

I've been lifting in weightlifting shoes from day 1. I like them, especially on press and deadlift.

[@atgtooverhead7377]

Wilson Tenney Same here, I find them to be the best choice for every big compound lift.

[@Mammophant]

timestamp to the actual question?

[@thetruth5232]

I have long femurs, and i find chucks to be very comfortable for deadlifts I also squat in my old es skateboard shoes with a flat base. they wear like socks but they are planted to the ground. Saved a lot of money!

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

That's My Little Secret too. I lift in skate shoes all the time.

[@jomercerlmt5727]

Malto-meal, cream of wheat, oatmeal and some other grain products give me heartburn if I eat them in the morning.

[@aaron5471]

One of the purposes of a cambered bar is to lighten stress on shoulders for powerlifters. But for normal people, like the people starting strength is for, a cambered bar is not necessary.

[@JustSomeDude31]

I need Orthotic insoles for midfoot support and arch support, the heel of the sole ain't that thick but the arch is. I do find it difficult to find shoes that fit these perfectly. I wonder if weightlifting shoes might be an option. What are the thoughts on weightlifting shoes with orthotic insoles?

[@totallyraw1313]

I use a "hwhite" sauce on my pizza! 😂😂

[@MrStuBStu]

"This is just masturbation" - Mark Rippetoe

[@texmexgardener]

Powdered garlic and powdered onion trigger my heartburn but fresh onion and garlic does not. I think its about concentration. Intermittent fasting with the fasting before and during sleep helped tremendously. Also Apple Cider Vinager with a bit of water and honey instead of antacids during a heartburn episode works for me.

[@fedguy9182]

Do wins available at Rogue fitness. Just got a pair. Leather stack soles

[@michaelgarcia4364]

Rip is the shit! Mr. Rippetoe I see ya'll are from Texas, would you guys be able to head south like to the tip of Texas for a seminar thing.

[@soakingbook]

Rip's entire demeanor changes when he starts talking about alcohol and food.

[@TurnTheStoveOnBlaze]

A cambered bar IS great variation to use. Not only is the leverage different, it can be utilized for working the lockout portion of the deadlift because a cambered bar is higher off the ground.

[@oPEaChzNCaKEo]

Two old guys talking about their heartburn for 3 mins.. ahaha

[@adriansaninja]

haha classic

[@freedivided2221]

I thought he said hernia

[@jbealsmusic]

They're talking about hiatal hernias, which cause significant heartburn.

[@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomite]

@The Worst Person Ever Yeah, it's a hernia of the upper stomach through the diaphragm.

[@jonnuncio3550]

New balance has an ok width. i have wide narrow foot and its tough to find a good match

[@louir3199]

Acid reflux?- When I do get it , seldom anymore, rink some milk or have a tortilla or some protein meat- these will give the stomach acids something to work on. As for eliminating the cause, drop 5 + lbs around the midsection seems to do the trick for me. - I have only popped a Zantac a couple times in the last year.

[@fleetwarrior75]

I lift in an old pair of Vans Sk8-hi's!

[@matcoddy6097]

as much as I love using gear and the bench press , that fed does sound fun

[@thetruth5232]

Yeah. love benching, but the press is a great lift to express whole body strength and the shortcuts are sorted out. the weigh-outs are really interesting. solves a lot of problems powerlifting has imo.

[@TIKOMIX]

Risto makes a flat sole deadlift shoe with arch support. Customer service is utter shit tho. Ordered mine 2 months ago and despite a few friendly update requests I've received neither the shoes or any email replies. Order remains in "Processing"...:(

[@daviddenicola8247]

Sabo deadlift shoe. Check that out. Great deadlift shoe

[@sayitoutloudchp]

I just started lifting in my squat shoes, I like the leverages it puts me in!! I'm 6'3

[@dhruvmohil]

"Puma fast cats" are shoes with a flat sturdy base and negligible heel height I find them great for deadlifts

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nobody even wants you here

[@evancawley3236]

I like the sound of that new form of competition but the chances of it making it over to Ireland is small

[@oliverallen5324]

Evan Cawley it takes, one man. That’s it.

[@adamcostilla1692]

Apple cider vinegar is a good way to get more acid in your stomach as well.

[@kevinaaronson]

Awesome solution to heartburn, it works everytime.

[@adriansaninja]

Adam Costilla ive heard apple cider vinegar is good for a lot of different shit.. supposedly perks up your pecker as well

[@Stanleysforlife12]

Lectins are what's effing up your stomach. Beans and tomatoes are both high in lectins. Great videos by the way.

[@earthwombat]

James Parker just got scammed by plant paradox man

[@ms88kr]

for acid reflux i strarted drinking apple cider vinegar.

[@kozz1984]

Nike Romelaeos 2 are great for wide feet.

[@oliverallen5324]

Tomatoes are a nightshade plant, yeah like the poison. What you’re feeling is tomatoes not wanting to be eaten. Ascorbic Acid and minerals is an interesting solution.

[@NikolaBg35]

What did you cut out at 13:15? :)

[@user-yw8hs8sv9p]

Are these seminars free ?

[@operationtruth288]

Safety Squat Bar Hex Bar Deadlift Bar Excellent Tools for Training Converse Chuck Taylor Shoes

[@Mohamed-dz1sn]

What are these points?

[@cryptogymbro]

10:40 do they eat damn cookies?

[@davidcgrbigcigar9269]

How come I see Louie Simmons boys wear converse when they squat ? Not Olympic shoes ? ... a serious question.. Many thanks

[@sleepingtube]

The Westside gang like an upright torso so that they can get as much bounce as possible out of the knee wraps and squat suit. Flat shoes work better for that style of squatting. However, unless you intend on competing in gear powerlifting federation's, squat shoes are probably a better option for you.

[@wilaustu]

That new federation sounds really interesting. Are there concerns about how people will safely perform a max effort overhead press?

Look at the rules. US strength lifting federation. Rules are extremely strict. You simply can not hurt yourself if you submit to those rules. The whole system actually looks really safe.

[@wilaustu]

Oh, I didn't know rules were available or that the federation was already off the ground. Thanks for the info! From their conversation I thought it wasn't finalized yet.

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[@brotherheed00]

No lifting shoes yet, is bare foot better than squatting and deadlifting than in running shoes? FYI I am sub 400# on both at this time.

[@rhythmindset6996]

brotherheed00 I've been deadlifting and squatting barefoot for months and nothing feels better. There's no cushion absorbing the pressure. You get a great feel for where your heel is and all the weight is stable. Im at 405 now on both.

[@CraigCastanet]

Use hydrochloric acid and pepsin, for reflux.

[@afterpay-tg8nl]

Data’s talking about stomach acid instead of weightlifting 😂😂😂

[@dickjohnson7845]

Asics wrestling shoes for me.

[@robertmcbride3]

Intermittent fasting for stomach problems

[@canererbay8842]

Love the prohibition of supportive equipment and sumo. But why wasn't a really short-term (like 5-10-30-45 minutes or just before the first attempt) weigh-ins established? Wouldn't it be better if it was certain who was eligible in what weight class before the competition starts for the lifter?

[@thetruth5232]

Apply for a weightclass and see if you make it, i'd say.

[@GIboy1990]

every-time i eat pizza with a red sauce or spaghetti my stomach gets wrecked.

[@entropeek]

Try cider vinegar for your heart burn. It sounds counter intuitive but the problem in most stomachs isn't too much acid but not enough. Add acid to improve digestion.

[@CrimsonStrider]

Blain Redwine that's what the vitamin c is for

[@craigcrawford6749]

Thats exactly what Rip said.

[@Stupoider]

What's the name of the shoes Rippetoe recommends?

[@goldchalice]

do wins

[@willh3972]

There are Pendlay and "Rip" dowins, which Rip I think helped in suggesting designs. Rogue now has a dowin that has a slightly higher heel than the Rip versions.

[@conman20000]

So he's saying barefoot is bad?

[@stavrosbegetis2173]

I can't do it. Sorry, Rip. Deadlifting in weightlifting shoes makes the exercise harder than it needs to be, and takes out alot of hamstring involvement. Weightlifting shoes for Squatting, Snatching, Cleaning. Chuck Taylors for The Deadlift.

[@matcoddy6097]

depends on your leverages/ strengths as well , but yes I think most people have better leverage/ position with flats

[@smurf88]

Stavros Begetis See: clarence0 deadlift

[@glennmuir5617]

@ the smurf: Clarence is doing fine in weightlifting shoes, but Ol' Stavros already knows everything. Folks like Stavo lurk around Rip's website and youtube channel just so they can show off their "knowledge".

[@adambarker1626]

it takes out a BIT of hamstring involvement. turns it into a tiny bit of a deficit deadlift. I've started deadlifting on a 1 inch platform wearing my lifting shoes. Makes the lift easier to recover from and studies show deficit deadlifts give slightly more hypertrophy. I have tight hammies, so I enjoy the stretch at the bottom and hope it'll loosen them up over time. It's not a big deal either way - I low bar squat, so it's not the end of the world if I lose 5% hamstring activation.

[@greglindstrom1705]

i can lift more in weightlifting shoes...

[@joesmith5606]

15:11 I hate to be gay like this, but.... lol

[@donha475]

lol

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1

[@getlost1989]

+1

[@adriansaninja]

make note, no beans at night

[@Lazerecho]

Ok we talked about shoes, now on to shoelaces...

[@GreyRock100]

Your stomach says "Oh shit, there's some acid.."

[@notablediscomfort]

Strap in, we're goin' on a fuckin' trip.

[@frankb2602]

VS Athletics shoes..ugly but good. I have a wide foot and they work for me

[@Kai_G]

8:20

[@jsagers2008]

Rip always puts me to sleep.

[@CrazyLocoInsane1]

10:42 isnt that the guy who murdered his wife and kids think his name was Chris Watts.

[@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665]

Man…I can’t waste 16 minutes of my time to understand should I or should I not squat in weightlifting shoes!

[@SushynatorProduction]

Rippetoe always in 1.5% speed

[@noloking]

That blonde girl wondering why she is stuck with these dorks, lawls!

[@johntrains1317]

When?

[@BryonLape]

The woman has better arms than Gal.

[@PsychItsMike]

wide feet isn't the norm Rip lol. You're in the minority there

[@cliffonator1111]

A powerlifting meet with no bench? psh

[@fondelmaddick5085]

Yawn.

[@rhythmindset6996]

Barefoot all day long.