Midsommar (2019) KILL COUNT

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[@bluecubenn]

CULT!!!

[@sneakydalek1632]

Pog meat

[@floridaboigaming6961]

First!!!! (please reply james lol)

[@TPerin]

Ily James

[@moonwalker8391]

Hey james

[@spykidtalksaboutanything4395]

The official script basically says that the smile Dani makes at the end is one of the insane, so basically, Dani completely snapped in the end

[@W.O.Z._The_Horror_Fan]

Nice

[@Petaurista13]

It's how writer understands it. I'm psychology student and actually "insane" is much more narrow term than people think. F.e. Jigsaw was probably sane, same as Hannibal Lecter. Example of actually insane people was probably in "Mandy" (drug addict gang) but I can't really tell due to lack of data. And here it's probably what James said. I have basic knowledge about sects and their manipulations is very, very strong. You can free person from sect, but there is known case of people killed as they started shootout when police made raid.

[@lovemusic928]

She's one of them now, they successfully fully indoctrinated her and literally got her to dunk the kool-aid, now the cult is all she has, she's happy now but clearly she was Manipulated by them in order to officially join them, scary cause stuff like this do happen to innocent people.

[@eagenthorror]

@@Petaurista13 well "insane" is not a real diagnosis and therefore is essentially meaningless as it is 100% subjective. you could call a person suffering from schizophrenia "insane", but you can also say that the people who call those suffering from such disabilities insane as being the real insane ones (because seriously in todays standards, its kinda fucked up and even ableist to dismiss people who are genuinely suffering when it isnt their fault as "crazy" or "insane"). needless to say, insane is often an insult.

[@t.v.rockwell4504]

I think it was clear she snapping when she saw Christian's rape, or in her perspective, Christian's infidelity. She was tricked into thinking he was unfaithful and, in her very fragile state, was given a choice to kill him, which she did. If she had more time to think, or learned what really happened, she wouldn't have killed him. I think her smile at the end was her realizing what she just did and finally losing herself.

[@chelseasams354]

When I first saw this it completely went over my head that when Pelle tells Dani that his parents died in a fire, they were sacrificed in this same ritual.

[@politecat9207]

That wouldn't make sense because the ritual happens every 90 years. Pelle would have to be more than 90 years of age.

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

What it probably means is that he too was indoctrinated into the Cult. Being caught at that low of a point in his life would have made him easy prey.

[@aang_sang]

@@thewhompingwampa2671 exactly! In my opinion Dani was taken in a low moment of her life, depressed by her family’s dead and then manipulated by these people, they tell and act in the way she need it, so was an easy prey. :(

[@snary]

In this cult pelle refers to the members as his brothers/sisters, so it makes sense that he didnt lose his *actual* birth parents in the fire, but all elders of attestupa

[@karlchristian261]

I'm your 1000th like

[@maxducks2001]

Fun fact: The moving flower on Dani’s flower crown actually corresponds to her heartbeat. You can see it at a relatively faster than normal pace when it’s placed on her, super fast when she’s kissed by Pelle, and slow and steady afterwards as she’s calmly participating in the rituals. It’s a small detail inside of an already small detail, and I absolutely love it.

[@bernardsoul5186]

Thanks for that

[@milliejoy2461]

I noticed that whilst watching the film and thought I was seeing things! Thanks for the explaination

[@TheNinthGeneration1]

@@milliejoy2461 that’s the point of shrooms and they added it in wonderfully

[@anonattorneyspokesperson5892]

Also when they are entering the cult they say welcome to everyone but to Dani they say "welcome home ".

[@aphelion2902]

I assumed it mimicked her breathing

[@booled1]

“You can’t speak…you can’t move…alright? Good.” Man that’s fucking terrifying.

[@Idreamtthatiwasacat]

Ikr Terrifying yet so confusing but I'm glad I didn't get it completely I'll probably forget about this movie after some days lol

[@bopply2616]

When talking about not being able to speak, I thought they had cut out his tongue or like took off his jaw

[@Fnaffan777]

Fr

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

It's a genuinely bizarre movie that perfectly portrays how frightening cults can be

[@libbyobrien4017]

You’re everywhere

[@flash2jack886]

Stop being everywhere and get a mustache already

[@flamingofumi2305]

I see your comments all the time

[@brendanfoehr5086]

I love Midsommar and I agree, but I think Martha Marcy May Marlene with Elizabeth Olsen from a few years ago does an even better job

[@BoogieWitAWoogie]

I see you in way too many videos. CERTAIN videos that are big bad.

[@bb-ih9hg]

The broken legs part made me so sick lmao but this was a really interesting movie. Someone once said, if you think Dani got a happy ending, you'd fall into a cult too - hell, you just did.

[@clockywork]

I had to pause and collect myself. Was a disgusting scene

[@Coffee_Enthusiast]

Recently broke my leg a couple months ago. Haven’t watched the movie, but from what he showed, that scene was horrific. I can’t imagine going through that again, or how painful it is to break both legs.

[@spencehowell1028]

Respectfully, i believe Dani did get the happy ending that can be easily misunderstood (hell maybe even I did) but danis journey from being separated from her family and Christian to finally being accepted by the Hårgas shows that (although she’s in a messed up headspace) she’s finally happy. There’s levels to happiness, and it shows in scenes like when they first arrive “Välkommen Hem” is only said to Dani. Im not a film buff but I feel like I really understood this movie after multiple watches as I really enjoy it.

[@semisomna6480]

@@spencehowell1028 A happy ending for Dani would've been to break up with Christian, go to therapy and find friends to support her. Not end up in a murderous rapey cult.

[@spencehowell1028]

@@semisomna6480 again, levels to happiness. More often than not villains don’t see themselves as the bad guy. But like I said respectfully listening to all opinions

[@staceypaquette5483]

I like to think that her "smile" at the end was a sign that she descended into madness

[@famine3141]

Cults can make people feel drugged even without drugs

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

apparently the script says its a smile of insanity or smth like that

[@bambi20082148]

its pretty much that, she has been completely broken and "rebuild" into another sect member

[@ethangtempleman5467]

It's what i thought it was

[@daisyperez6708]

I'm just surprised police never questioned the cult

[@cybernautadventurer]

Pelle was by far the scariest man in this movie. He seems so sweet, gentle and understanding. It was him who killed Josh with the sledgehammer.

[@giorgiafletcher9546]

just wondering if its confirmed he did kill him or youre just speculating? i love the idea of him doing it and just curious if i missed it!

[@cybernautadventurer]

@@giorgiafletcher9546 director confirmed it. and if you pause at just the right time, you can see him hiding behind a corner

[@giorgiafletcher9546]

@@cybernautadventurer amazing

[@2ree534]

Honestly, I knew he was evil the EXACT moment he started talking lmao. Bringing up the death of her family, I was so sus of him.

[@everskiess7639]

i commented this before but i wanted to share it again As a Swedish person I’d just like to point out that at the start everyone is treated with a “welcome” yet dani got a “welcome home”. edit: probably meaning that pele wanted Danny to come and had planned this weeks in advance also you know that drawing? yeah it would have taken a long time and those symbols on it stand for “journey” and “rebirth” but since the symbol that looked like an R is inverted it makes it dark or negative so actually on the drawing he wrote “ a bad journey to rebirth”

[@myettechase]

“Morally inexcusable but thematically explainable” is such a succinct phrase that I wish more people would realize applies when it comes to narratives with flawed characters.

[@udittlamba]

“Morally inexcusable but thematically explainable” Eugenics E girl bath water tiktok

[@myettechase]

@@udittlamba EUGENICS?????????????

[@SarionIfrintiene]

Yeah, except unfortunately too many people think the peak of cinema analysis is Cinema Sins and can't actually process complex, thematic material like they should be able to.

[@trongnhan4618]

@@udittlamba E GIRL BATH WATER????????????

[@G17x]

exactly

[@cursed-cat9126]

Fun fact The extended cut has Christian say he doesn't want to have seggs with Maja multiple times. So if you had any doubts (idk why it's very apparent) It's absolutely rape.

[@deepa2690]

yup, and even if he did want to have segs.ex with her beforehand, his drink got drugged so he was forced upon. people who say he deserved his death bc he 'cheated' annoy tf out of me

[@JabberJayed]

cool name plus pfp. thats all

[@markalexander3659]

Yeah, I watched the extended cut, too. 100% that was rape. He's a douchebag and a terrible, terrible boyfriend...but that scene was still rape and still fucked up and he didn't deserve *that*. NOBODY "deserves" to be raped. Except maybe rapists.

[@oliviaplamondon5333]

@@markalexander3659 then again, the people that rape the rapists are ALSO rapists themselves. so it’s a vicious cycle.

[@kingvamp.]

@@oliviaplamondon5333 a rapist that rapes a rapist is then titled what :o i has the big dum

[@lily48745]

something i find interesting is when they first arrive, everyone else gets greeted with “welcome” and dani gets greeted with “welcome home” in swedish!

[@gounthers]

The lesbian flag commented. *THE LESBIAN FLAG COMMENTED*

[@greythomas6199]

When o finished the film i talked to my mum about it and i didn't notice that line so she showed me

[@WAyuso34]

I want to leave this world

[@gounthers]

@@WAyuso34 Do it

[@katarina9064]

Time stamp?

[@everskiess7639]

As a Swedish person I’d just like to point out that at the start everyone is treated with a “welcome” yet dani got a “welcome home”. edit: probably meaning that pele wanted Danny to come and had planned this weeks in advance also you know that drawing? yeah it would have taken a long time and those symbols on it stand for “journey” and “rebirth” but since the symbol that looked like an R is inverted it makes it dark or negative so actually on the drawing he wrote “ a bad journey to rebirth” oh yeah and pelle was the one who killed josh with the sledge hammer

[@dumbluckduckgoose9437]

That's a nice detail! Thanks for sharing!

[@icantimagineagoodname4666]

So Pelle wanted to bang Dani the Whole time?

[@caspergustavsson8680]

Visst menar du Pelle? inte pelé

[@everskiess7639]

@@caspergustavsson8680 mitt misstag, jag insåg inte ens, kunde ha varit automatiskt korrekt eftersom det brukar göra det när jag skriver namn

[@ghostf6321]

The thing I love about midsommer and hereditary is they don't rely on jump scares.

[@sueerivera]

yess hereditary messed with me

[@JJ-lz4zl]

Hereditary had bunch of jumpscares wym😂😂

[@SiboWoW]

@@JJ-lz4zl Yes, there are, but in my opinion there is the right amount of them. Also, a movie about such a topic couldn't be mad without any jumpscare.

[@Andthereisthat]

Both movies sucked. No plot which made each movie make absolutely no sense.

[@servais.]

That hereditary movie was disturbing at the end

[@thephantom496]

As a Swede, I can confirm that the actual celebration of midsommar is not this weird and creepy.

[@Kaelan-o4r]

well i certainly hope not

[@Allex1991]

As a Swede, he's lying. Midsommar in Sweden is pretty close to this movie

[@Kissalege]

@@thephantom496 it is from a finnish persons perspective

[@eighteen-naked-cowboys]

idc what u say if a swedish person ever invites me to midsommar i am calling the cops.

[@iPumpkinz]

@@eighteen-naked-cowboys don’t worry we don’t kill people we just dance around a giant dick with flowers and other kinds of vegetation while singing about small frogs… I promise it’s not a cult… probably.

[@ajromero3692]

Can we take a moment to appreciate that James recognized that Christian was sexually assaulted and it was a creepy scene? I hear too many people say that the "mating ritual" scene was funny but it's actually really disturbing. I have no choice but to stan anyone who refuses to play into the "men being sexually assaulted is funny" trope. James is the best :)

[@anaionescu8913]

Yea, Christian might have been a douchebag, but that doesn't diminish the fact that what happened to him was rape

[@ariqsyafwan4987]

Unfortunately majority of society still thinks rape is horrible only if its happens to a woman, and when it's happened to a man they will just brush it off as "funny", or even worse, if the rapist was "beautiful" people will even say shits like "yOu ArE a lUcKy mAn"

[@owyemen9367]

I probably sympathized with him so much more than dani

[@MegaOctobot]

Most people believe rape only happens by dudes in big cities standing in dark alleys snatching random women which is extremely not the case. Also the extended cut has Christian saying he doesn't want to have sex with Maja a few times but the older woman keeps pressuring him.

[@Coyotebriggs]

Dude was literally drugged and then led into that. Might as well have been a roofie.

[@victor1998-swe]

As a Swede, I must protest. We only sacrifice one or two individuals at every Midsommar.

[@XJIcequeen]

Seriously?

[@Awidferd]

@@XJIcequeen It was a joke😂 the actual Midsummer festivals are very fun and don't involve any murder🤣

[@theg.o.a.t6897]

​@@XJIcequeen nah we just eat potatoes meatballs surströmming and sing små grodorna around the midsommar pole

[@CherryNovaGaming]

​@@XJIcequeenyou can't tell a joke? No culture now n days just kill people

[@YungCamy]

@@XJIcequeenbro said seriously 😂

[@AnodyneRain]

Honestly, as much as Christian was an asshole, his fate terrifies me to no end. I can't imagine how awful that must be.

[@apapthegrape31]

Or the other two guys

[@matthewosterman9030]

For real bro. My girlfriend is happy for the chick at the end but I’m like wtf she’s a fucking piece of shit

[@internets0up]

I feel like the roles of Dani and Christian kind of switched, Christian is a big asshole and Dani is the unstable and weak person that deserves help but in the end Dani literally wishes death onto him with the brightest smile ever while Christian is the victim of multiple crimes and both his physical and mental state becomes worse until his life brutally ends

[@gvirusqueen3559]

@@matthewosterman9030 Dani was drugged just like her boyfriend. They’re both victims. Chris died a horrible death and Dani will have to spend the rest of her life apart of a twisted cult she won’t be able to escape from.

[@famine3141]

@@gvirusqueen3559 it looked like she found her purpose. Some people like to live in communes

[@SatumitheNeet]

If you pay really close attention. Midsommar is actually about James suffering in a failing partnership with KZbin copyright system

[@nogenemcguinty]

Haha

[@som_10]

What da dog doin?

[@enshen2190]

Nice One

[@leeanntan9030]

How could I miss that detail!

[@stanlee6748]

Oh wow never thought you would be here Satumi

[@FBBHRULEZ]

James is right. Condemning Christian is not a Yaaaaas Queen moment. However, it is, in fact, a May Queen moment.

[@dante.2639]

huh?

[@slushdog1012]

@@dante.2639 its a joke since Dani is May queen.

[@dante.2639]

@@slushdog1012 oh.

[@sagez9422]

I don’t have any cool commentary to add, I just wanna give credit where it’s due, this comment is funny as fuck.

[@nerdydrawer7265]

Ba Dum Tss

[@liolatte]

I’m glad that James calls the mating scene a r*pe. It’s really important to highlight that men, too, can be r*ped. a lot of people (men AND women) say that men can’t be r*ped but it is possible. ESPECIALLY if you are drugged. He was HEAVILY drugged and and even if he would have possible consented if not drugged he is still drugged and therefore it was a r*pe.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

rape is rape

[@jakobwhaley5641]

Can confirm, i 16 an ex 18 were in a car and i fell asleep, still dont know how but yeah

[@Muzzldcarnivore]

​@@jakobwhaley5641I know you don't know me but I'm very sorry about this and I hope you are healing smoothly 🫂

[@goose_president5504]

Yeah I am totally disgusted my any man woman or whatever you identify as who says men can't be graped I heard one story where a guy got graped and he went to the cops and there were two of them and they laughed in his face and said can't be graped That's was horrifying to say the absolute bare minimum

[@kittyyoutuber9]

@@jakobwhaley5641 R*pe and p*dophilia?! You poor soul, I hope that creep is rotting in jail.

[@retro1x201]

“Menstrual blood and pubic hair cooked into a mans food” dawg I’m tryna eat I chose the wrong kill count

[@yxng.flacko2496]

Shit be me too🤣 maybe we js needa stop watching mfs dying while we eat

[@Ergoperidot]

@Framework333 Lame-ness is a social construct predicated upon subjective and arbitrary cultural values.

[@Jasper129]

Not exactly same for me, but I found that f*cking hilarious 😂

[@user-ds5ro8si9k]

@Framework333 then that means we can bond because we're all lame since I was eating while watching this too

[@angelslaugh6876]

XD I was eating strawberries 🥲

[@Mangos156]

The fact that the deaths were off screen in this movie is a good thing, especially when we see their bodies. It gives the viewers a horrifying thought as to how they did all of those things

[@HeroicGamerGuy]

Nothing scarier than imagination.

[@i_am_irxnman]

Damn straight

[@cxntrolmao2]

Fr fr

[@test-jt5el]

low key trimmed Mark's face off like the texas chainsaw

[@cxntrolmao2]

@@test-jt5el lol

[@hyperbolicraider4848]

Ari: Wanna see me make you afraid of cults? ***Hereditary now exists*** Ari directing Midsommar: …Wanna see me do it again?

[@aXXomaster]

Midsommar is a subpar redo of successful tropes and ideas that Hereditary masterfully bkended

[@claws811]

@@aXXomaster bruh

[@lynnakey2726]

for a sec i thought it said cilts

[@5nip3r56]

@@lynnakey2726 human centipede 3

[@JuliaElizabethGraves]

I literally cannot believe that you’re only the second person I’ve seen on KZbin who sees this film for the psychological horror, cult indoctrination story it is. I’m genuinely unsettled by people calling Dani a girlboss and painting the ending in a positive light. Thank you for being a voice of reason here

[@smugfortuneV2]

Wait people called dani a "girlboss" for being indoctrinated into a cult. The fuck

[@JuliaElizabethGraves]

@@smugfortuneV2 sadly yeah. Media literacy is dead apparently

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I think Drinker started that garbage, because of course the guy who cited Tyler Durden as a positive role model doesn't understand a movie like this.

[@NostalgiaMan]

I will say that bright horror film does make it much more creepy especially with the unknown aspect of the cult.

[@1stCommentCop]

I see you everywhere i go

[@leoncdx6770]

your channel is dead

[@mfr.pr24]

i swear i have seen you in every kill count for the past 4 years

[@fatmonkey9757]

Hello my lad

[@ColinCartoons]

yeah it could happen anytime

[@peachyqueen4399]

Something I'm seeing a lot in these comments is how "funny" it would be or how it would feel like being "mocked" for the Horgas to be crying/screaming along with you in a moment of grief. However, it's a legitimate cult tactic that WORKS. It's called Mirroring & it's meant to make you feel as if your emotions are understood and that you aren't alone. Cults are known to go after people that feel alone & have no one else. What better way to pull them in than to make sure they feel understood & heard?

[@laurena.7115]

God, that’s fucking terrifying.

[@scoliosis_core2455]

honestly if some girls who i’d never had a full conversation with started crying with me i’d be freaked tf out

[@-ana_banana-2098]

That’s both very interesting and very terrifying

[@animeonepiecelife1663]

@@scoliosis_core2455 I'll be annoyed as heck, I'll think they're mocking me.

[@hunkneeti9244]

Wow interesting. How do you know about this I'm genuinely curious lol.

[@lukes568]

‘Ari Astor wrote midsommar as a way to process the real like breakup he was going through’ His ex watching this: 👁👄👁

[@diorperfume3481]

Wait is this how his broke up went?

[@libbyg7046]

STOPP this is so funny 😭

[@brmbkl]

@@diorperfume3481 probably not, but I guarantee you she was into crystals, and had 'empowering ' books about paganism.

[@diorperfume3481]

@@brmbkl oh ok

[@williamlingardsson6961]

🤣

[@Ookamikage13]

The warning about being in the right headspace before watching is so dang true. It’s such a heavy movie and intense and I had to have a fluffy happy show after it because, rollercoaster of pain

[@michelleh.5225]

I watched it after seeing 5 intense horror movies in a row so I was desensitized lol. Still disturbing tho

[@thebananasolver]

Even this kill count is just a lot for me so ima watch something better after

[@louiegssportsden121]

Fun fact: a few days after wrapping up filming for this movie, Florence Pugh started filming Little Women which would land her an Oscar nomination. It’s crazy to think how she had to go from Dani to Amy in just a few days. That’s why I think she’s a great actor and has a bright career ahead of her.

[@sohamacharya171]

It is Dani, like in the youtuber. Also, nice amount of likes.

[@moxiemaxie3543]

@@sohamacharya171 its doesn't matter. Are you so not smart that you can't properly read a sentence when it's not has a typo or misspelling. " I didn't know what you were saying because you said Kris and not Chris"

[@markalexander3659]

She's amazing. There are a lot of very good actors. I think part of it has to be a natural affinity but a lot of it comes from being taught. However, very occasionally you see an actor so talented you can tell they just have a natural, amazing talent, that is maybe just honed or polished by being taught. The same way certain singers are just naturally incredibly gifted. I think Florence is one of the latter.

[@corinthgain3614]

@@moxiemaxie3543 are you so confrontational that you can't accept someone's just trying to help?

[@pathendlem]

She’s an excellent actress and I see a very bright future for her

[@BlookyBot101]

I think James is one of the only horror film reviewers that actually acknowledges that Christian was indeed raped during that scene. Everyone else calls it cheating and it bugs the hell out of me and is such a damaging mentality to have. Thank you for understanding the scene I really appreciate it

[@BlookyBot101]

@Someone It doesn't matter if a woman is blamed for being intoxicated. She still shouldn't be held accountable, same as Christian.

[@sasdagreat8052]

@Someone Except the support would be worse if it were an intoxicated man, like from the people watching this movie.

[@snakeplissken3063]

@Someone When a woman has been drinking, she's not responsible for her actions and she can get the man thrown in jail. When a man's been drinking, it's toxic masculinity and he had it coming. Welcome to the current year.

[@xxedgecumberveggietaleslma9874]

@@snakeplissken3063 and when I drink I get kicked out of the premise and arrested for public intoxication and disturbing the peace. I fucking hate 2021 ,you can’t even smoke cigarettes with minors in the back seat of the car 😫.

[@sarcasticsugar004]

@@xxedgecumberveggietaleslma9874 almost like second hand smoking is a thing dude

[@wiruthewexican]

This whole movie's basically just a litmus test to see if you're susceptible to cult tactics, and if you thought it was a "yas queen, girl power" movie have I got news for you

[@highandtight5544]

F A C T S LMAO

[@kuso9757]

yas queen, girl power!

[@bentrod3405]

@@ArmedChicano the issue is that then cults fall out of pop culture so that then they can come back stronger

[@jay_mw]

@@ArmedChicano I suppose it depends on the cult. Obviously, a cult such as the one in this movie is indefensible.

[@bentrod3405]

@@ArmedChicano no I agree cults are bad, but the fact that they are in pop culture means that its easier for people to identify and avoid them. Many people that were in cults got slowly dragged in. First you meet a new “friend” at a party. They grow your trust in them. They introduce you to their “friends”. Then they start introducing slightly weird things. Then slightly more weird. Eventually your brain grows to accept whatever is thrown at you. You are then indoctrinated into the cult.

[@LukeTheDukeYT]

The only reason I watch this channel is to “watch” the movie without getting scared. This guy literally takes all of your fear away.

[@CandyMsp-gw2qu]

I started watching the movie the first deaths shit scared me and can't finish the movie

[@heyh4j]

Yes! Because this movie literally traumatized me.

[@LukeTheDukeYT]

@@heyh4j Never watched the movie, but from what this video showed me, lots of horror movies don't have to have a big scary monster to be scary. Sometimes...ya just need a stinking cult.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

Tbh, I never saw this movie as a horror film. To me, it was a psychological torment film. One where there is no big bad monster, but humans who take advantage of a hurting girl and kill and assault all her friends and boyfriend. It's about insidious manipulation, not fear.

[@LukeTheDukeYT]

@@eleanorcooke7136 I consider horror films anything that makes you scared in any way.

[@KingSkeletor]

I love how James is like "i dont wanna pass judgment from this fictional murder culture." they lied and murdered a bunch of tourists!

[@pilotmatthew1787]

Some would say its a tourist trap

[@ColinCartoons]

@@pilotmatthew1787 *high fives*

[@Wi-Fi-El]

Facts. If the village was a real place they'd probably all be in prison. I guess it's one thing for volunteers to jump, but sacrificing tourists is definitely murder

[@pilotmatthew1787]

@@ColinCartoons :D

[@xerocubed2005]

@@pilotmatthew1787 slick

[@NutyRiver]

I also don’t feel like Dani choosing Christian as the sacrifice was meant to feel right. Dani was also drugged, manipulated, terrorized, traumatized and isolated by the cult, so there’s no way we should EXPECT her to be making good decisions. They’re all victims here.

[@roin4042]

I feel like people find it so easy to pick sides and decide who was right and wrong when in reality, they’re all victims as you said

[@eo0-g9j]

its a movie

[@ihaterachel9282]

@@eo0-g9j good observation

[@charchar4276]

@@eo0-g9j nice 👍 its almost as if cults, manipulation and drugs exist

[@1ia802]

@@eo0-g9j a movie that truly reflects real situations.

[@infernallad9227]

This movie is disturbing as all hell, but you got to appreciate the amount of time and effort put into it and I’m so glad James managed to cover it!

[@j88101]

Yes very disturbing

[@test-jt5el]

No jumpscares, no dark paranormal ghosts, no mass serial killers, just pure fright and terror.

[@royshaheer]

I was recommended this channel by a friend and while he is avoiding horror stuff due to COVID-related stuff. Pretty sure he saw this he would have quit watching stuff altogether.

[@princesskarabo3914]

I realized half way through the movie that it was similar to Hereditary

[@16deepmadedraco]

Yes, it is not scary as hell, it’s scary as f*ck

[@Schnittchen011]

The only part that bugged me in the movie was how none of the characters except for Connie and her friend wanted to leave after the sacrifice of the elders. Who would possibly stay there after that? They were drugged and had their own problems but just imagine witnessing this IRL and acting like nothing happened.

[@whatthehelliot]

tbh I think a lot of that is just detachment. many ppl totally dissociate after traumatic experiences like that and it can cause their responses to be more chilled out in a way bc the event feels disconnected from them

[@88unstopable]

​@@whatthehelliot In a strange place isolated from civilization? Nah, that would set off alarms for everyone.

[@whatthehelliot]

@@88unstopable escaping would take a lot of mental energy and planning (thats why Connie & co., who just left, ended up dying). they likely wouldn't have the same rational capabilities as you or I, watching a movie at home

[@88unstopable]

@@whatthehelliot do you hear yourself? Alot of mental energy and planning? They walked into that camp they could walk out. They messed up by separating.

[@prettyboyjeremy]

In their defense they didnt know them personally and being emotional cold is a guy thing.

[@whyphy2213]

Finally a kill count we can watch but james can also get paid for his hardwork

[@Foggyscotty]

Boss comment

[@thedude8457]

Don’t jinx it

[@legacyls4336]

It's been 13 minutes don't get too exited

[@skasa8074]

Keep the hopes up

[@gayfrog6015]

What?

[@nycn1nja91]

i just came up with a theory: With the dance sequence, what if the women around Dani were deliberately falling to make her the last woman standing? They knew she was in pain, and what's the best way to cheer someone up? Make them feel like a princess. They took advantage of her pain and this was only another manner of inducting Dani into the cult. This movie is so brilliant. It's not just mindless entertainment, it's a movie that really makes you think and theorize and exposes you to uncomfortable imagery and topics that are very real.

[@bmk256]

i was thinking that the entire time i think she was always meant to be the queen to them since she arrived

[@theheartofnaberius5008]

Yes, everyone else was welcomed with "welcome" but Dani was welcomed with "welcome home".

[@snakeplissken3063]

It was a setup. She was brought there to have Pelle's baby and then killed. The May Queen is the last to be sacrificed after having a baby. Did you notice that there were no previous May Queens there?

[@CouchSpud91]

I was calling out all the cult initiation actions throughout the movie. They were inciting paranoia through the drugs, enforcing isolation through their manipulation tactics with Christian and the steady removal of the friends, and of course the biggest one being love bombing. They do the love bombing hard from the moment Dani shows up, and it's most on display with dance sequence. Or rather the long rush of positivity for Dani after she 'won'.

[@SpairM]

If they weren’t manipulating her they’d actually be very nice to her

[@jockeyfield1954]

cults actually freak me out. just the way how members of these cults see everything they do as normal, while everyone who is outside, viewing in, would definitely feel disturbed and unsafe. and how they take advantage of emotionally vulnerable also scares me, because at any moment of any day, a new friend might find me depressed and decide that i'm perfect to use, while my point of view would think that they're actually helping me

[@nathan8750]

too be fair though, they probably feel the same way with some of the things people outside their circle do. A sociologist once visited a tribe in the PH who severed the heads of their enemies once defeated and displayed them in their homes as trophies, but when mentioned to them the concept of "War", they were disgusted and terrified of it. They felt that men being ordered to surrender their lives and die for their country was barbaric. Really interesting how perspective can shift depending on peoples points of views

[@pandamonium4857]

Are you religious?

[@Lily-yu8zg]

It’s not a cult, it’s a swedish celebration that everyone in Sweden celebrate!! I’m swedish btw. But of course it’s not that brutal!!

[@tg0r]

@@pandamonium4857 im a Christian

[@pandamonium4857]

@@tg0r OK, now, I 100% respect your right to religion and I am in no way trying to bash it. But in my experiences The majority of religions I have discovered and learned are not all that different from some of these smaller "cults". From my understanding of a "Cult", I actually see an alarming amount of similarities between small indigenous "Cults" and worldwide Religion. My question is why are smaller, less understood religious groups demonized and called "cults" while the big ones are called religion? Again I respect every individuals right to religion and I mean no disrespect, I am simply trying to understand the human race a little better. Maybe someone would like to have a civil conversation about it? I understand this can be a touchy subject...

[@jerronscoolself2239]

Fun Fact: The tapestry in the beginning of the movie actually foreshadows the entire movie. And at the ending where the building is burning up and Dani smiles, her smile is also a replika of the sun smiling in the tapestry.

[@Alejandra-se2yd]

All the villagers are murderers, Christian was raped and that's definitely not a happy ending for Dani. Nobody is going to change my mind about that. The movie was great though.

[@-angeldust]

Not that realistic about shrooms. Drugs dont give hallucination like that

[@wididididididi8693]

Its so fucked up its good.

[@jadeandjesse5908]

@@-angeldust i mean it sort of does. You literally see the whole world breathing, and its completely impossible to show what a drug trip really looks like on film, so i think this is decently accurate. I at least believe Ari Aster has done shrooms himself, which is more than I can say for most filmmakers.

[@-angeldust]

@@jadeandjesse5908 they dont and i did alot of drugs to say i know. You dont feel them hallucination the way she does and the visuals... its More like a really Short moment where u think u saw sometjinh and then look again and realize there was nobody. Thats how drugs Work

[@hammy1999]

@@-angeldust don’t question this guy he’s clearly a drug expert

[@ClassicDepravities]

BRUH, i had NO idea that the dude playing christian wasn't american. his accent is FLAWLESS.

[@RYAN_A-vs3nn]

literally most people in this film aren't american 🤣

[@emg6053]

Fun fact The only American in the film is the actor who plays josh!

[@pjjustice5014]

Lol even Florence who played Dani isn't pure American

[@ClassicDepravities]

@@pjjustice5014 well no i KNEW florence was british lol. i've seen her in other stuff. it's WILD that josh is the only american though. not a single untalented actor in this whole movie.

[@Erica-bo2gl]

I know!! His mannerisms too, everything was so accurate!

[@ghristophermyers666]

James in a flower crown is fucking adorable, holy shit. Edit: We should request Cutting Class for him to cover some day imo since it is summer, or Aquaslash.

[@soybajo-kira8585]

Normal James is adorable

[@TheMedicRed]

Billy in the back is giving him a run for his money tho.

[@EnclosedPoolArea]

Gay

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

@@EnclosedPoolArea I'd say it's been clear for a while that he's bi. No big deal, no one will care. But it's obvious.

[@gun_bee]

@Miguel Messina He could still be bi even if hes getting married to a woman

[@taggen2782]

As a Swede, i was very happy to hear that this tradition would be turned into a movie, and they couldn't have made a more accurate depiction of this yearly celebration

[@Nightt_Riderrr]

you are kidding right?

[@NHR17]

@@Nightt_Riderrr 😬

[@Nightt_Riderrr]

@@NHR17 :o

[@rhymeswith9032]

😀............😦

[@lilfacade]

do you listen to drain gang?

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

The large amount of people I've talked to who don't understand that Christian was raped is deeply, DEEPLY disturbing to me. Edit: People like Imalittlelady in the comments are living proof of this repulsive ignorance.

[@toniasmcrae]

I literally just watched this movie & in no way did I view this as a “girl power” movie. Yes, he was raped & she was manipulated by the cult. This film was disturbing in so many ways.

[@wann4875]

For real, just read a comment saying he cheated on Dani. I'm like ????!!!!

[@Isabelle-hv6ny]

@@wann4875 Tbh I think that was his plan before Dani decided to come with them. And he showed a lot interest in the red haired girl before the rape scene. I just wanted to point it out

[@tylerrapp7876]

Both were. The girl was 15

[@Isabelle-hv6ny]

@@tylerrapp7876 Pretty sure she was 18

[@TheDashmesh]

Maybe it’s just me but i think Dani’s hallucinations of grass and plants growing out of her is foreshadowing for her “putting down roots” and not wanting to move away.

[@sarahhenry1845]

Good observation. I haven't thought of that.

[@famine3141]

She did indeed find her purpose and place to belong

[@shoganai2545]

@@famine3141 she def did not. She was literally drugged and indoctrinated into a cult

[@famine3141]

@@shoganai2545 she was able to let her loss behind because of the cult. So she can start to heal now

[@theelegantman461]

@@famine3141 I don’t think temporarily forgetting is healing.

[@anonymouswind1]

I NEVER caught the time difference with the relationship, how Christian considered the relationship done in winter while Danny didn't, until now! I've watched this movie so many times and just though Christian forgot, just like he forgot her birthday.

[@laliclaudesol2350]

OH MY GOD.

[@murdercheeseandflamingunic7168]

*OH* -MY- GŒD

[@SlashyBashy_]

You saw it more than two times?

[@anonymouswind1]

@@SlashyBashy_ several lol legit would turn it on for background noise along with Hereditary

[@kasparkesamaa6777]

@@anonymouswind1 menace to society

[@aidankeohane3370]

I love the look on Christian’s face at the end. It’s like “of all the ways I thought I would die, this one was pretty far down the list”

[@the.misanthropist]

The actor that played chris did so well in portraying a man who is emotionally uninvolved bf and then suddenly switch to a scared drugged victim

[@matthewosterman9030]

Yea I ended up not liking him throughout the film but I didn’t think he deserved the gate he got and felt sorry which is a testament to his acting

[@chrisossu2070]

He's someone you break up with, not someone you drug and burn alive.

[@1997lordofdoom]

@@chrisossu2070 He is also someone you don't really care that he got drugged and burned alive, especially if you have seen the deleted scenes.

[@SleepingsGaming]

@@1997lordofdoom if there deleted then there not part of the lore. So they hold no bearing. Also No one should wish anyone to be burned alive.

[@gamewizardthesecond]

@@1997lordofdoom what would happen if Christian was a girl and dani was a guy? How would that look like? Would you wish the same for them then?

[@colinwhitehurst9701]

Those shroom effects while she was in the mirror were so accurate the way her face seemed to morph is the realist representation of moderate phsycadelic use I’ve seen in cinema

[@hexes5122]

Also the way the bark on the tree and all the leaves moved, it is like to a T.

[@lewhitey2544]

Psychedelic** and yes even the shit Mark says like “lie down, lie down, Cmon bro lie down it feels amazing” and the “oh no new people? I don’t want new people right now” is so fucking real lol that dude definitely has tripped before irl

[@matsimoto3541]

phsycadelic

[@trustmeimaplaguedoctor4967]

Other movies hits pot once completely trips balls

[@colinwhitehurst9701]

Give me a break on the psychedelic misspelling I was probably tripping at the time😂

[@jamesscott7215]

Something I love and have no idea wether or not it was intentional is that they condemn Christian as an evil spirit and wrap him up in the bear carcass then burn him, the shot of him sitting there looks so similar to final shot of Dani. But while Christian’s was shot dark and violent, Dani’s is shot bright and beautiful her being surrounded by flowers a sign of life, making the shot seem positive. However while the flowers are a sign of life they have been picked from the ground and are dead, eventually wilting and decaying. Both Dani and Christian are wearing corpses, perfectly illustrating how hypocritical the cultists actually are. Again I have no clue if this was intentional or not it’s just the way I interpreted it. That being said if it was intentional it makes me love this movie even more.

[@ivypatty]

Wow, that wilting flower and bear carcass comparison was so eye opening

[@leblanchiphop4440]

That makes alot of sense... Especially when you look at another great piece of foreshadowing that was used when Pele shows Dani the picture of the May Queen and says "This was last year's may Queen" I believe this symbolizes the cult will eventually sacrifice Dani To make room for the next may queen

[@venchikcen]

Reminds me of me dream of being burned at the stake like a witch. Dream, not nightmare

[@strwbshrtcke]

that’s a really cool perspective !!

[@davefuller84]

Fun fact. Sweden might have been the friendliest countries I’ve visited. So seeing this movie set in sweden gets a chuckle for being so dark and horrific

[@msjkramey]

I mean, the movie had SO MUCH love-bombing in it. So it makes sense that they'd have a cult with that feature be from a place with a reputation for being friendly

[@wisygirlywopitty770]

When a horror movie is bright it implies that they don't need shadow, night or darkness to scare you. That simple fact made me feel stressed during the whole movie.

[@hesjhdbdjsk7899]

that’s what I love about bright horror movies :) they prove that darkness or shadow is not necessarily to create something horrific and scary

[@mesCheerios]

true horror is all around us

[@miraculousismyguiltypleasu9372]

I really love that James legit dressed like he was going to participate in Midsommar. Right down to the gosh darn flower crown!

[@thepineappleman4442]

I love he dresses up as a character it for every film! plus a prop from the movie too.

[@pastoryoda294]

Well he always does that with every movie

[@Falxifer95]

It took me a second viewing to realize just how predatory and nice guy-ish Pelle really is, and how he isn't being empathetic at all since he's deliberately exploiting Dani's emotional distress to get with her while simultaneously indoctrinating her into the cult.

[@sandrafunacc1]

He was pretty on the outside.... Terrifying and rotting on the inside.

[@LD-hs9iv]

And the worst thing is, is that he gets away with it He doesn't die, get poisoned, or go to jail, his plan succeeds and Dani is fully indoctrinated, and she really thinks she's happy

[@nastiana8336]

Honestly I can't take the guy seriously because Pelle in Finnish literally mean clown.

[@dannythepoormanfredini4632]

@@LD-hs9iv H He dies

[@DangerRavioli]

@@dannythepoormanfredini4632 no? he really doesn't? he is seen in the crowd outside the burning temple with the sacrifices

[@lauratude5132]

I laughed hysterically at "skin the fool", they skinned the fool alright

[@nataliebillings1258]

The ending was the most disturbing part to me . Movies like this tells/shows you the true horror of cults.

[@yxng.flacko2496]

@Kotoko Utsugi's headband o yea. They do some real animalistic shit

[@rickardkaufman3988]

If you watch the Director's Cut, you will see its fascist elements.

[@bennichol1510]

@@rickardkaufman3988 the original cut was enough for me.

[@barnowl2655]

I'm all for freedom of religion. But all those people honestly deserve to be banned from leaving the country, because if your luring people into your cult just to kill them for some screwed up ritual, then you don't deserve to just be out and about.

[@Uncle_Troy]

This is easily more disturbing than Hereditary was. Being possessed is an implausible premise that sane people have no fear of. Being skinned and gutted by weirdos in the middle of nowhere, however, is completely believable and the way they just treat the corpses like toys is disturbing.

[@gabrielaharries8149]

I was scared more by Hereditary, but Midsommar was way more disturbing; Hereditary was more fiction while Midsommar was more realistic which automatically makes it worse because you can actually imagine it happening

[@yxng.flacko2496]

Idk tbh hereditary was very disturbing. Especially the way they dealt with the grief so realistically

[@qwasthim7848]

Uh possession happens I’ve seen it

[@hat7475]

@@qwasthim7848 the comment is talking about how most audience would feel almost nothing because spiritual/demonic posession is a common trope and religions vary far and wide so it's not believable at most. But skinning alive is a physical act and is, as they said, believable.

[@qwasthim7848]

@@hat7475 I do agree that the depiction of possession is trivialised and overused. It isn’t what it looks like in films such as the Vatican tapes and hereditary. Through I don’t know which is more common, people getting skinned or possession?

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

The fact that some people thought any of the characters deserved their fates or that Dani has a happy ending is genuinely scary.

[@Carols989]

is terrifying but damn if it doesn't show how well crafted the movie was

[@KingstonHawke]

How is her ending not a happy ending? From her perspective she made out pretty nicely. She got a new boyfriend and family that really want her around. Before that all she had was the boyfriend that she knew wanted to break up with her but didn't have the spine to do it. Obviously, we the audience, realize that with that level of manipulation and dishonest going on in that community that it might not be the best place for her. But the audiene always has perspective that characters can't.

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

@@KingstonHawke We're seeing her at her most deranged moment when she's still drugged up. Is she actually happy? Once she realizes what actually happened, that a bunch of people have been murdered and she's stuck with these people the rest of her life, I don't think she's going to be very happy. And if she continues to live in this delusion, that isn't a happy ending.

[@KingstonHawke]

@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong She wasn't drugged up at that point. She was sober by the time she caught him having sex, and this was a long time after even that. And I don't know what it means to be "actually happy". She smiled, people smile when they are happy, she seemed happy. Maybe she won't be happy long term, but that doesn't mean she's not happy in that moment. You have to try and look at things via her perspective rather than projecting yourself onto her. A lot of people would make the trade she made. Lose a boyfriend who doesn't love her, and his friends that don't like her either, for hundreds of people who literally treat you like you are a queen. Them being killers (not murderers) isn't the red flag you think it is. Women marry men in the military all the time. And she already proved that she's willing to participate in the killing. So the only thing you are really pointing out is that she's from a different culture. But people swap out old cultures for new ones all the time.

[@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong]

@@KingstonHawke How are they not murderers? They ritualistically slaughtered 5 innocent people. She's not going to be some permanent queen either, it's just for the day. The fact that because she smiles at the end makes you think she's actually going to be happier and better off is sad. Who gives a shit if she maybe feels happy for that moment? She is an absolute emotional wreck and the cult just preyed upon that and she's now stuck with them for the rest of her life. You can stop with the cultural relativism BS too.

[@georgeealien]

It's really creepy when they reveal everyone would've been killed regardless of what they did. At first, you think they just messed up by breaking the rules or behaving inappropriately. It adds an extra element of horror, because I think most of the audience would say "come on, man, they said not to take pictures of the book. I wouldn't have done that" and we'd think we'd be safe in that hypothetical scenario. But, nope, they were destined to die the second they arrived. Nothing would've changed it.

[@tylershep4220]

I think people so commonly misinterpret this movie's ending as a positive thing for the same reason they do other movies like Joker, Parasite, Fight Club, and others: modern culture is so used to seeing the "protagonists" be morally right all the time in 99% of movies that when they do something horrible, they subconsciously assume it must be good as they have been following and identify with the main character for the whole movie. If the perspectives were slightly shifted in these movies, for example if Midsommar was told from Christian's point of view, the audience would see the former protagonists much differently.

[@limbobilbo8743]

No ones really right in midsommar, or actually, no ones entirely wrong.

[@FolstrimHori]

@@limbobilbo8743 pretty sure that the murderous cultists are wrong

[@chrisboateng5975]

what do you mean modern culture? If anything it was the culture from the 20th century that prohibited anything other than the protagonist being in the right.

[@aliciaanderson873]

Yeah, most people in modern culture are also pretty stupid.

[@botanicalitus4194]

What? Dani was literally the victim in all this and she did nothing wrong. Christian was victimized too but he's closer to being the villain than Dani is. Dani was the only one who wanted to leave after the two old people jumped, but Christian made her stay and told her she was overreacting. Christian also flirted with and chased after the underage girl who was flirting with him even when be was sober. Also, at the end when Dani was choosing who would be used in the ritual, she HAD to choose someone, she had no choice. Someone was going to be used, either a stranger who she never interacted with or Christian who treated her so badly. Her choosing Christian is not her doing anything bad, bc she literally had no choice. A homicidaI cuIt was forcing her to choose one of them, so she chose the one that hurt her.

[@winterbear9554]

I love how natural Dani's cries are and you can actually feel the pain in her cries. Kudos to the actress

[@Jurassic_Malcolm]

I love how James is always dressed accordingly to movie he is counting kills.

[@franciscocruzthenext-genga6802]

Except for Texas Chainsaw Massacre The Next Generation.

[@123haninhk]

I immediately laughed when the video starts. James is amazing.

[@pizzaman6885]

Same lol

[@demontorch]

Professionalism at its finest

[@tayshaunarandia4486]

Also his background

[@Sillygoose009]

* Probably one of the most unsettling horror movies i’ve heard of next to tusk and human centipede probably because not only is there large amounts of gore but amazing story writing and cinematography that just pulls the entire thing together into one terrifying ending 10/10

[@purpleniightfall8974]

"Outsiders are brought in for mating purposes." My immediate response: 0.0 wait a minute

[@crystalgemgirl731]

A necessary response.

[@bernardsoul5186]

So clearly you didn't watch the movie. You're watching the kill count without having seen the movie first. You make me sad.

[@ohnogeorge2824]

@@bernardsoul5186 why should he care?

[@bernardsoul5186]

@terra boi Way to make everyone cringe with your feeble attempt at sass.

[@JavorinaMaria]

@@bernardsoul5186 well, for example im scared of horrors and they are really affecting my depressed, anxious ass, so watching kill count is the only way for me to get to know them without being in panic mode for weeks later

[@amityislandchum]

I'm glad you highlight the rape scene for what it is. I've watched a lot of videos saying we should be happy about what happens to Christian, because he's an asshole. Even the CinemaSins video says it, and CinemaSins is far too popular to not be called out on that gross shit. Saying a man deserves to be raped for being an asshole isn't different than saying a woman deserves it for flirting or dressing sexy. It's disturbing that that mentality is still out there.

[@heartscaless]

Not surprising that Cinemasins partook in that shit take, they're known for consistently not understanding movies and when they get called out they or their fans will just say "but it's just satire!"

[@ConstantDerivative]

@@heartscaless one of the reasons i despise CinemaSins

[@ntbored7727]

@@ConstantDerivative i just don’t like it because it’s so negative

[@ConstantDerivative]

​@@ntbored7727 edit: nvm i just realized you were talking about cinemasins i didnt check what comment you were replying in

[@tonypringles2285]

could you tell me what moment they say that? i cant seem to find it. id like to reinforce my hatred for them

[@gleewhoseline198]

I agree with you, I don't think the film celebrates Christian's sacrifice. I don't think they would've put him through all that if they wanted that, they would've just had him cheat of his own volition, rather than be raped. Plus, the script makes it clear that Dani is completely in the hands of the cult now, and they clearly let her believe he did it himself. I think people who interpret this film's ending as being happy (as a good and bad thing) are taking it at face value. To me, it was always clear that it was a downer ending, only happy to Dani because she's completely lost her mind.

[@quinnzykir]

And doomed to be sacrificed when she gets to a certain age

[@centricthemedic1517]

Midsommar reminds me of movies like Fight Club, Joker, or Gone Girl, movies with massive wish fulfilment in their protagonists/antagonists actions, however you're not supposed believe that it is a happy thing that they did it.

[@Parzival_V]

I know people who say it’s a “good” ending because they identify with Dani (literally) Like, they think they would do the same to their ex BF who was an idiot. They miss the point

[@GH0STQUEEN]

to me, it seemed like dani had no choice in the end but to completely give up. i’ve seen people villainize her but what other choice was there? to die? she had been completely manipulated until the end.

[@Parzival_V]

@@GH0STQUEEN She was another victim of the cult, like the video said, they took advantage of their weak relationship and used both of them

[@merlinho0t]

Even if you didn’t like Midsommar, I think we can all agree Florence Pugh was incredible in this film. She also kept Dani’s white Harga dress. Also the cinematography and set design is one of the most gorgeous I’ve seen in a horror film. Edit: 13:17 He is referencing the fact that the actor that plays the old man, Björn Andrésen, was a child actor who was considered “the most beautiful boy in the world”, and was in the film Death in Venice.

[@hf4229]

The funny thing about people thinking this is a "girl power" movie is that technically it's the exact opposite of girl power. She literally lost all power by succumbing to the cult and doing their bidding. Shes never leaving that cult. The entire point was to show the insane manipulation that cults are able to put out to bring people in to literally either murder or control for their own personal gain. Idk how that is in any way girl power. If this truly was a girl power film, she wouldnt have succumbed to the lure they put on her. She would've taken control of her life and PTSD herself, not through the manipulation of a cult. Idk why but it really upsets me that people completely misunderstand the message of the film to the point where they're going "yaaass queen" when they see her smile at the end.

[@snakeplissken3063]

They're going to kill her too after she has Pelle's baby.

[@hf4229]

@Miriam Svenson I've seen a ton of people say they thought it was a girl power movie and how they liked that she chose her boyfriend to die. My sister even said it while the credits rolled and it honestly really irritated me because the whole point is to try and convey the way that cults can easily brainwash and trick you. We aren't supposed to be happy with the ending or rooting for her being completely brainwashed by the cult. It's the same as how her boyfriend was raped and people are saying it was voluntary when he was literally drugged for the entire film constantly. If the roles were reversed people would've hated the film. If her boyfriend was in her position it wouldve been an anti feminist hate film that glorifies gaslighting and rape. But because the roles are the way they were, people see it as a girl power movie. It's really stupid honestly.

[@en2p187]

@@hf4229 hey,.... do you ever see or notice parallels with.. whatever feminism today has become and this cult ike parroting behavior? Not all feminists of course, just the ones who watch films like this and think it's girl power. I don't know how that conclusion can be reached in the first place.

[@goawayleavemealone2880]

@@en2p187 - All Feminists are cultists, this comes through in how the label is so important... but everything else is inconsistent at best. It also comes through in the failure to recognise that actions speak louder than words.

[@spacecat3198]

Yeah I don’t get the whole “girl power” take from the movie. I didn’t know that was a thing that people took from this movie until now. Christian never struck me as sexist, he was just a douche.

[@nathanoakes6610]

Watching it again is weird because you now realize Pele is bringing his “friends” on the trip to be sacrificed.

[@johnpaul836]

Father Odd??? idk who it was but one of the elders thanked Pelle for bringing new blood or something.

[@Ensitrious1]

Christian did not cheat on Dani. He was raped. For those who don't understand why the scene where he "mated" with her (whatever that girls name was) was rape, it's because Christian had been drugged, putting him in a vulnerable and confused state. Because Christian was under the influence of drugs when the rape scene happened. *That proves that Christian was not in the right mindset for this to be considered consent.* TL;DR: Christian was on drugs, which means it wasn't consent, which means it was rape. Oh yeah also people should be more aware that both men and women can fall victim to sexual assault. Regardless of biological sex and structure, not all men are rapists and not all women are real (emphasis on REAL as in can still be) victims of sexual assault.

[@greenbeangang8303]

Under influence of drugs and fear from the cult

[@ivypatty]

A great explanation 👍

[@nia8593]

I also don't think Christian is as much as a douche as he was portrayed to be. It is not selfish to want someone emotionally stable, and you cannot break up with someone who just lost their whole family ..

[@pyromaniac2104]

Good FUCKING God: THANK YOU ALL for being the only reply chain I've seen on this video where everyone doesn't immediately jump to attacking the main comment and saying "ChRiStIaN iS MaN aNd ThErEfOrE cAn'T Be rApEd" Facts: He was drugged He CLEARLY loses interest after awhile (NOT out of faith to dani, make no mistake he *is* a crap boyfriend but because he starts getting weirded out by her) SHE (the cultist girl) PUT MENSTRUAL BLOOD IN HIS FUCKING DRINK She does the above because she's trying to create a love potion and if Shakespeare and most popular culture interpretations of the concept are to be believed that thing is a rape potion in all but name and I will say again because it bears repeating *MENSTRUAL BLOOD IN THE LEMONADE AS ONE OF THE INGREDIENTS* And just incase you're still unconvinced... swap Christian gender for just one second, apply the sequence of events we see to this opposite gender Christian... then come back, look me in the eye and tell me he wasn't raped

[@pyromaniac2104]

...it occurs to me I was slightly angry while writing my last comment so if I come off unpleasantly I apologise but I stand by everything I said in my last comment

[@roodaka9613]

I love how it's a realistic horror, it feels like something you would read in a true crimes Post or documentary. It just feels like it could happen or it is happening

[@MilkAndSugar16]

It's not just her mother in the crowd, after she had won the dance contest, but her whole family. Her sister even stays on the left side of her.

[@nelixsulu6201]

So her family never died?

[@5weenies263]

@@nelixsulu6201 They did, she just hallucinated them in that scene

[@gleewhoseline198]

I think what this movie does extremely well is show how easy it can be for cults to recruit. They likely knew that Dani was extremely vulnerable, due to losing all of her family and not having proper support elsewhere, making her a very easy target. The examples of love-bombing throughout are well-done. The ending scene is also extremely effective. Dani has well and truly lost her mind at this point and all the others have been horribly killed and all the audience can do is watch. I remember seeing this in cinema and after Dani did the crazy smile and the movie ending, everyone is the screen was silent. Then one person quietly said 'what the f*ck.'

[@KingThrillgore]

And during the credits they play "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" by The Walker Brothers. The sheer audacity of Ari Aster. This film was great and I never want to watch it again.

[@Highly3666]

How would they have knownthat her family died

[@samdancer101]

@@Highly3666 Pele(?) Likely sent word ahead/told them when they arrived.

[@future8856]

@@samdancer101 these cultists were probably amazing at reading facial expressions, and could likely see that the relationship was extremely wonky. i think the cultist love interest part was another way for them to break down dani, along with her winning the dance, and how she wasn't warned about the suicides.

[@cheekbonestrenchcoat]

@@samdancer101 Like James pointed out, he was clearly manipulating the situation Dani was not supposed to go originally so wasn't planned to be a sacrifice (regardless of who won May Queen, Christian would have been the last sacrifice most likely as a villager would pick him too), Pele saw it as a chance to get the girl he probably had been fancying for a while. He can pass info on to them, encourage them in how to manipulate her best. He even straight up told her they brought outsiders in to prevent inbreeding.

[@ghostlyspecimen8460]

"I'm sorry" James: "you should be." That made me laugh so hard and idk why 💀

[@jibekmechler139]

Honestly the scariest thing about this movie is that some people seem to think the ending is a happy one

[@ThePrincessnady1]

I definitely do!

[@jibekmechler139]

@@ThePrincessnady1 ???

[@ThePrincessnady1]

@@jibekmechler139 use your words!

[@aidendocherty1558]

@@ThePrincessnady1how

[@BoxOKittens]

This movie got cult indoctrination so well that I've seen many people actually say the ending is happy and the cult is good for Dani.

[@austinlincoln3414]

so messed up..

[@kuhercaesar7350]

Ya Dani is a monster tf

[@zekellie_]

@@kuhercaesar7350 Wouldn't say that but okay

[@LadyWisteriaa]

@@kuhercaesar7350 she is not a monster at all. They are all victims

[@BoxOKittens]

@@kuhercaesar7350 wouldn't go that far. she's being drugged and manipulated. the only real monsters are the cultists.

[@itsbrittanybitch7416]

I’ve listened to a lot of commentary on this film and yours is BY FAR the most in-depth and detail oriented, while still being entertaining and funny. So glad I found your channel.

[@DeadMeat]

Hey, thank you!

[@Bob-fh4ht]

@@DeadMeat Dead meat I know you wont ever see this but thanks for not only showing the kills in movies but actually making them fun to watch and also thanks for giving literally millions of people basically a free movie watch by actually showing parts of the movie that gives story to the movie you're the best :)

[@kelleymaxwell3875]

Not to mention, freaking hilarious. Him breathing like the characters and then saying "choo-choo!"? LMAO! I just subbed. :)

[@Bob-fh4ht]

@@b-ner2616 corona also got no income

[@hesjhdbdjsk7899]

agreed

[@hypnogogicgutstuff6496]

I kinda like how they describe death as beautiful and natural, right after showing us an ugly, unnatural death

[@theclown6217]

Well, TECHNICALLY, gravity _is_ natural

[@nekomei2640]

interesting what is to be considered natural and unnatural in this world and lifetime. The deaths, while I guess I could agree with ugly, I don’t find unnatural but maybe that’s my own bias

[@antonyahmadzai8608]

You know a dead meat video is good when you have to hit “continue” two times

[@SydneySighs]

I can never truly understand that some people see the murder of a paralyzed rape victim by his girlfriend as a "yes queen" moment

[@NameName-yj7lp]

Simple, the cult manipulation It’s all planned out before us but we never say anything because we feel as if it’s not their fault

[@matthewosterman9030]

Probably the weak minded that would fall into a cult in the first place

[@Grasfh]

I watched it a while ago but I swear he doesnt get raped Edit: I am dumb and didnt watch the full vid

[@NameName-yj7lp]

@@Grasfh It’s alright , that drug detail is really small tbh because the scene is so- what’s the word like weird that it sticks in your mind you forget the first Parts to it

[@alonsoarana5307]

They probably genuinely like Kamala Harris

[@wrongtime9097]

Midsommar: the movie where a group of people watch an elderly couple get thrown off a cliff & smashed with hammers and the only ones who thought that was a little suspicious were the tourists we saw for a collective 10 seconds

[@totalfool4414]

That's about the only problem I had with this movie. What kind of normal person wouldn't leave right then and there?

[@kingayy9267]

@Total Fool They tried!

[@gremlin8216]

@@totalfool4414 they did try to leave tho, they were just stopped by the gaslighting from the villagers saying it was just a tradition and a blessing

[@JotaC]

@@totalfool4414 this is supposed to be a take on moral relativism. How we see many people do horrible things but are told to accept them because "it's their culture". I found it to be a genius punch.

[@comedicsociopathy]

@@gremlin8216 That's not gaslighting, that's people being gullible idiots because they think culture excuses everything.

[@damienjohn]

"he draws, and we the elders interpret" James: And that's how you start a religion! Pretty much!!!

[@handev2604]

Yep. 😆

[@sheldon-cooper]

@Miguel Messina *no don't*

[@slasherscrews]

It always amazes me to see William Jackson Harper’s ability to act. The way he played Chidi in The Good Place is so different from Josh here

[@ExemplarKyle]

What's truly disturbing is how many people think the ending to this movie is one of those "You go, girl!" endings. Christian was a bad boyfriend, but he did not deserve to be raped and then burned alive. This is not a happy ending in any way, shape, or form. Dani was manipulated and converted by this cult and is now 100% in their hands.

[@Ms_StoryDragon]

Sounds like Fe***ism to me 😬

[@MangaSword8]

I was looking for this comment. God bless you Kyle.

[@yesimsureienteredmynamecorrect]

@@Ms_StoryDragon No. Feminism has nothing to do with hating men, sacrifice, or cults

[@BOH-28]

@@Ms_StoryDragon gotta be that guy huh

[@johnsoapmactavish9921]

@@yesimsureienteredmynamecorrect ehh go to any public university and the SJWS will prove otherwise

[@MeAndMyAngelWings]

As an anthropologist I can understand Josh’s mindset(at first). We are trained to be detached when studying cultures. We are not there to pass judgement or feel a certain way to customs. We are there to record and observe as much as we can while trying to stay emotionally distant. We have to have some emotionally connection to gain entry into the cultures but maintaining our “distance” is important. And culturally relativism is a huge part of our process! However, he crossed the line and took pictures of their holy book and that is super f*cked up! That is against everything an anthropologist is trained to be ALSO I WOULD BE FURIOUS IF SOMEONE STOLE MY THESIS TOPIC AFTER I HAD BEEN WRITING IT FOR MONTHS. THAT IS A D*CK MOVE.

[@paulcooper8818]

But really would you expect Christian to actually follow through? I would not, besides Josh already had a head start. That's what I was thinking IRL, but I know it was just for the movie.

[@Genzafel]

@Lewis Friend I did, it's awesome to have more context and another person point of view

[@thefinalboyy]

@Lewis Friend you really didn’t have to sit here and read it all you could have just scrolled like 🗿

[@thefinalboyy]

@Lewis Friend bruv you literally act like it

[@JJokerMoreau]

I mean. Crossed the line for the cult, but brought wonderful knowledge to everyone else. Knowledge should be shared, not hoarded.

[@Lostvideosoftheinternet]

This is a very accurate representation. When the word 'family' is said, she went crazy. It's a triggerword and its common.

[@Stefan-yk8yk]

Vin diesel intensifies

[@juliaholladay8821]

I barely recognized this and it’s my comfort movie! Damn!

[@cactusman5774]

@@juliaholladay8821 how is this movie comforting

[@SpairM]

@@cactusman5774 eh, some people have weird comfort things, my comfort movie is IT

[@Lrizu]

People in the internet be inventing a lot of things to feel different (im talking abt comfort movies) why dont you just say "my favorite movie" (btw mine is speed racer)

[@daniplaysoneasy-9454]

The actor portraying the male adestupa tribute was once named the most beautiful man in the world in his youth. James references him as 'dan, the most beautiful dying man in the world'. i love subtle allusion!

[@edstella]

Just as a reminder to anyone in the comments who may need it for whatever reason: This is not a good place, it's not ideal. Dani already started the movie as a co-dependent person. Then her family is taken out not only suddenly, but in one traumatic, awful event that she likely erroneously feels guilt over. Then she takes mind-altering drugs throughout the film. She is continually broken down by a relationship she doesn't have the time or emotional capacity to process because of the fact the larger, more pressing pain of losing her entire immediate family hasn't been properly processed. She does not talk to anyone-- no grief councilor, no therapist, no professional help. Not even a friend or some spiritual advisor or layperson. Places like this, or cults, prey precisely on people like Dani. They focus on people who are missing something in their lives and are usually codependent. This isn't to say the people they go after are stupid or emotionally immature in some way, just lacking the fortitude at that given moment that makes them susceptible or vulnerable so they can take them in. And just like Dani, cults "love bomb" people by making them feel validated, accepted, and part of a family. It's all to make them stay and not question whether or not something is wrong. Using sleep deprivation is another big tactic, along with hard manual labor to keep people too weak and tired to focus or fight-- something that is a big part of this movie as conveniently, the festival takes place on the longest days of the year with shorter nights. Don't let your emotions cloud logic or instinct that tells you something, no matter now nice, seems wrong or off.

[@ssffe529]

That's what I love about this film. It brainwashes you into thinking that whatever the cult is doing is the right place for Dani to be at despite how absolutely insane and broken she was by the end of it. Ari did such a good job at illustrating how cults and relationships work in this film. It really fucks with your mind.

[@doctorswagj]

TBH I don’t know what you said I just gave you a like for spending 10 minutes writing this comment nobody cares about

[@mememachine7028]

Yes,yes,yes. Every time I hear people say that this movie has a “happy” ending I think they’re crazy. Being brainwashed into joining a death cult is not a good thing. Sure, Dani has severed herself from a relationship that didn’t work, and seemingly found a new family through that. But it’s still a *death cult* that doesn’t believe in living past 72. This is not a happy ending, this is a person getting manipulated because she didn’t get the help she needed.

[@Laneous14]

I totally agree with you, but please edit this into paragraphs so it's easier to read.

[@Dead25m]

@@doctorswagj I cared, and if such a comment takes 10 minutes to write, you're either old af, new to computers/phone or actually braindead. idek why people like you feel the need to go "no one cares". What's even the point?

[@Triviata84]

Florence Pugh is an absolute powerhouse. This performance, as well as her roles in Lady Macbeth (2016) and The Little Drummer Girl (2018) show her amazing talent as an actor. Seeing her name on a cast list is now enough to convince me to watch almost anything.

[@ghamani5505]

You should watch little women i.e, if you haven't already

[@tydrickgay4917]

Agreed

[@seansswamp]

little women

[@jbvader721]

Florence should've got her Oscar nomination for "Midsommar" in 2019. Don't get me wrong, she was great in "Little Women". But, there was something more raw in her "Midsommar" performance that deserved just as much praise as "Little Women". But, you know how the Academy rolls.

[@diegofuegoyoutube]

"Dani, do you feel held by him? Does he feel like home to you?" The actor who played Pele delivered those lines so beautifully that I had to replay it thrice. Lovely!

[@charlie-yv7zv]

this guy talks perpetually in “:D” and it honestly makes this a lot less damaging to my soul, he had some very insightful and intelligent decontructions i was impressed !!

[@thoushallnotpass22]

The most compelling part of the movie that I don’t see discussed as much is the score and the sounds. The music is often in the range that naturally triggers a sense of unease (similar to the range of a baby’s cry). Even when it’s “beautiful” it makes it impossible to relax. Not to mention the ambient baby cries and such in the background.

[@ashleyhunter2156]

Do we even see a child in the film?

[@tacossmiley]

@@ashleyhunter2156 we don’t see a baby or anyone like under the age of ~6/7 but there are children The ones playing “skin the fool,” Ruben, and I believe they are also at the dinner table

[@ashleyhunter2156]

@@tacossmiley thanks for the info. I completely forgot about the skin the fool kids. It’s so creepy that we hear babies cry but we never see them

[@vkdragonfire2123]

@@tacossmiley There is a point where we see a baby in the building where they sleep; the Hårga women put a pair of scissors under the baby's pillow (for some reason; I can't remember if they explain it).

[@tacossmiley]

@@vkdragonfire2123 oh my bad! Sorry

[@bec3581]

Bruh the fact that I couldn't tell who was in the right in Dani and Christian's arguments made me realize just how much I've been gaslighted in real life

[@claireegoetz697]

i’m sorry you can relate so much - i hope you’re not in any kind of similar situation anymore

[@xiiwolfy]

ok

[@PoorNPCS]

@@xiiwolfy ok

[@roprope511]

@@xiiwolfy not ok

[@seandoesnpcshit]

@@roprope511 ok

[@rimurutempest4945]

It’s unsettling how bright this film is. You can’t hide the gruesome and fucked up shit being the cover of the night, it’s all laid bare in the light.

[@Epodmusic17]

I think that's what adds to it. The people in the cult are passing their mannerisms as normal and natural for them, so they have no reason to hide in the shadows. Everything about them and their intentions are out in the open from the very beginning. The tourists just didn't comprehend what it was until it was too late.

[@rimurutempest4945]

@@Epodmusic17 Exactly, they feel no need to hide anything because to them it’s the norm, so why hide anything? It’s such a novel take on a horror movie.

[@heyysimone]

The cult and especially when women when she was having the panic attack made her feel welcome and so validated when she felt 'negative' emotions. They shared in her pain with her. They didnt push her aside or belittle her or even sit with her just waiting for her to get over it, and even if it was all a manipulative plot, i think thats the thing that really made her fall into this cult. They made her one of them. They made her see death as something to be honourable as opposed to the murder-suicide her sister and parents had, they made her feelings feel like they were okay and they made her feel special. She hadnt felt validated or special in a long time in her life, not just with Christian. They lured her right into their cult. And they let her win the dance to become May Queen. I love this film. Its beautifully shot, the set designs and scenery are gorgeous (the inside of that big living quarters building is just so well done - all the artwork and runes are incredible), the acting was amazing and it was just done so well. There wasnt an over the top amount of gore for the film, just the right amount of brutality and violence i think. Plus, Dani looked so cool in that massive flower grown and dress.

[@woebegone_kenobi]

Watched this with an actual swedish person the first time and him going "oh fuck" before the cliff scene and then not explaining why gave us all the same feeling the characters must've felt. Fucking wild

[@Dead25m]

Tbh, most Swedish people do not know what Ättestupa is. So, that's actually kind of cool.

[@Codemaster92163]

As terrible of a boyfriend as Christian was, I still feel bad for him. While he should have called things off forever ago, the issue with her family basically further trapped him in a relationship he wanted no part of.

[@SimplyDood]

@@barnowl2655 I mean, he was drugged and completely out of it. He didn't seem to want to do anything with anyone until the end when he was probably very mentally exhausted, scared, and drugged from anything they've been feeding him with. Everything preceding that mating ceremony would certainly label him as a mean person. Even during it, he didn't seem to be enjoying it, confused and scared. Then he runs out, and you know what happens next.

[@Pirokh]

@@barnowl2655 He was drugged, and essentially raped. He wasn't "cheating" on his girlfriend and its pretty mental you interpreted it that way.

[@Pirokh]

@@barnowl2655 Yes. It is that bad that you don't feel sorry for someone being raped, paralyzed, then burned alive while still aware they're being burned alive but not being able to do anything about it. But think he's a jerk for being distant to his girlfriend that he was planning on breaking up with until her parents were murdered and her sister committed suicide.

[@botanicalitus4194]

@@Pirokh Before he was drugged, he was flirting with the girl from the tribe (who was underage, as well. He also knew she was underage bc his friend who was studying the tribe told him). Yeah, he was definitely ray ped but he also cheated on her beforehand. He's a POS. Also this movie really proves how people will always belittle wmn's trauma and pain since people like you keep acting like all he did was "be emotionally distant". While she was still grieving, he plans the trip without telling her and then when she asks him about it he gets at her for it and makes HER apologize for bringing it up, and then when she desperately tries to make him happy and hypes him up he ignores her. Then, bc hes too selfish and immature to deal with the situation, he invites her without telling his friends, making her think she is welcome. Then when she comes along, he ignores her and leaves her to fend for herself while flirting with an underage girl. And then when she begs him to leave (after the old people ceremony) he tells her no. He was abusive. Dani was the real victim in the situation, if he listened to her they would have all been fine.

[@SimplyDood]

@@botanicalitus4194 I believe most people recognize that Christians actions would certainly label him as a bad person. I think it's important to be cognizant of what the movie is intentionally showing us. They are obviously making Christians character to be a bad partner and through out the film it shows how he treats Dani. I understand why people don't feel bad for him, because you feel bad for Dani and empathize with her character and what she's been through. So not only has Christian been a terrible person throughout, but you are shown this caring and supportive community that accepts your sadness and doesn't deny it. Except they also kill people. It's difficult to contrast what is best for her, and you as the watcher feel like you have to pick sides even though they are all bad ones. Truly, it's just an unfortunate situation to be in.

[@xiin7441]

As a swede, the creepiest thing about midsummer (the real festivity) is that it almost always rains. Even on the sunniest hottest summer years. Also this movie is gorgeous, the choreography is actually very similar to what us swedes do on midsummer and have done for ages. Flowers are just as important as it is in this movie for most of us