dean blunt boiler room black lives matter uk 2016

[@emilchidoub4748]

Not pointing fingers or accusing anyone in the video or comments, but the fact that he said “and if you speak up you’re an angry black man,” only to then be looked at with fear and confronted on all sides, shows how this cycle of watered down platitudes is so normalized all around us. When a reaction like that is achieved, everyones on the precipice of a true breakthrough, but instead he was looked at as if he was a jerk, and everything he said was just for the sake of being contrary or to rile them all up. There is so much potential in what he spoke about. I found the full upload from boiler room after looking it up, but they turned off the comments which i think is a real shame. I bet there was plenty of potential to be found there as well.

[@boris770]

him walking out at the end is the most dean blunt type of thing to do

[@FaxWax]

i think its not sorta "dean blunt thing" to do, he stated that this conversation is pointless and while being asked about the statement, he gave it. its pretty reasonable to distance yourself from thing you dont agree with.

[@boris770]

i mean i totally i agree with im, dont get me wrong. what the person was saying was super pointless and straight up words with no actual meaning. every person has their own experiences and view points and dean was saying his view, and the person in the audience sounded like they were trying to convert dean into making him feel that way too. idk dean had the total right in this i just thought it was funny,@@FaxWax

[@AnP865]

Thanks for re-upload. These kinds of curated public discussions make people feel on edge and are not conducive to unity. It's a traumatic emotional topic and this situation brings out a more anxious side to everyone that hijacks intellectual power. The body language is very on edge. Tight voices, shifty eyes, agitation. It's not like people are saying wrong things it's kind of like the energy direction needs a deeper more private and emotionally supportive bedrock than Boiler Room.

[@chaplain6141]

Theres no intellectual power here, just people who think they are 'public intellectuals' because of non academic books or art they make. What they need to do is actually find a well respected academic who can actually represent a coherent theory

[@emilchidoub4748]

I think everyone in that room, in one way or another, is aware of their adjacency to “power” in all its forms, and are afraid of saying anything true and impactful beyond the surface level. The bedrock of Boiler Room is definitely making this problem worse. And I think that introducing more hierarchy, as suggested here by bringing in a “well respected academic”, would only add to this problem. A level playing field where all parties are willing to argue and get passionate with each other is good for making new discoveries. @@chaplain6141

[@ihatesamir]

@@chaplain6141because well respected academics have never failed the black community

[@ramomate1705]

Feel bad for dean here. People weren't really engaging with what he was talking about

[@pierceclegg825]

Hes the only one there trying to approach from a place of patience. Everyone else is trying to get the satisfaction of venting their anger and pain, which is valuable to do at some point, but is damaging to themselves and society to make your main approach.

[@macaroon147]

Yes, exactly. That's how i see most of these far left groups. They wants change now without acknowledging how change works. Real change, like the ending of racism, is a process which takes place within each individual in society. You can't just make new laws and change the racism someone has inside. This shit takes time and real strength because it takes utmost courage to be patient.

[@pierceclegg825]

@@macaroon147 Exactly what Ive been realizing lately. They're just trying to use suppression and fear tactics which is why we're so divided today.

[@Seitex2004]

Been years since this happened and what he said still rings true.

[@t3649]

Why did they get so aggressive with him? These are supposed to be open, free, respectful spaces no? He was being very civil and made some carefully considered points.

[@kano--]

because they’re passionate about the topic and disagreed with him. its unproductive to be hyper-emotional in this situation but it’s not irrational given the situation

[@beachtroll4023]

@@kano-- dont sound wiser than what you say

[@kano--]

@@beachtroll4023 ? if that’s how u interpreted it sure 😂 i just said them being hyper-emotional is unproductive i’m not surprised that they are tho. jus like dean blunt said ppl rioting is hardly accomplishing sht i’m not surprised they did it tho 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@badtoxxin7909]

@@kano--that’s not what he said, go listen to the npr interview he said he doesn’t believe in protesting but he does believe in rioting.

[@kano--]

@@badtoxxin7909 hm interesting

[@Shaun.is.typing]

I would love to hear more Dean Blunt interviews

[@ticctacc.343]

Ts cracking me up, dean is such a character

[@willieduzit]

This dude alone holds something unique, he’s got so much talent that he really doesn’t need no one except an audience!

[@DANI_EXXTACY]

that is NOT glenn danzig LMFAOO

[@cadetlimbo]

to those criticising the panels credentials, realise this is a discussion of current lived experiences of which everyone can be a quote 'academic expert' on. the spaces the panel are in and their lived experiences are the reason why they were chosen most likely as they give a wide range of perspectives. i think dean is making a lot of valuable points here about performative activism and recognising the differences between the uk and the us in terms of institutionalised racism but the fighting back on certain points against him from other members of the panel rather than offering how they see certain aspects make this somewhat unproductive. can't say i blame dean on walking out.

[@varunfm]

they not fw him

[@rsiddz6849]

YOU REMIND ME OF A GIRL I USED TO KNOW BACK WHEN

[@cyberzach4781]

@@rsiddz6849leandoer96 mentioned

[@hns_shinobi8888]

@@rsiddz6849 Her eyes were made of cotton candy and she had no friends

[@merpinmyderp447]

@@hns_shinobi8888and i would always talk to her and they won’t end i havnt see her for a whiiile

[@PiLLO360]

RIP Mark Duggan

[@not.spir0s]

Damn I never really watched this and listened, dean rlly knows what he's saying. he's right. marching and listening to kdot didn't change anything. black ppl are still being killed and oppressed. we need wide discussions about why this is happening and what black and white peoples relation to eachother is. he's right. lmao. wild.

[@jeromerichard8364]

how come he goes by glenn danzig even in serious settings like this..?

[@prangbro]

It’s hilarious. There’s another video where he actually says ‘My name’s Glenn Danzig and I’m in a band called The Misfits’

[@youssefhasna9983]

no way what video loo

[@viljandimaaestonija]

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[@uhnile8]

@@youssefhasna9983 Look up dean blunt future of electronic music talk 2011 lmao

[@glocketh7340]

Cuz why not

[@oskarkristensen7807]

sick transitions on this one 🔥

[@tiredboysfantasy6576]

I hear you dean 🙏🏾

[@Shaun.is.typing]

Thanks for posting this 🙏 . A lot of critical things are being said here

[@smdatmypace]

I really fw bro

[@ryanhester5724]

Same

[@xiko8931]

2:52 they dont know that dean made alot of songs with asap rocky *-*

[@MIKE-TYTHON]

Those songs were after the fact

[@HXLproductions]

He gave true insight

[@todayandtomorrow123]

love dean blunt. respect

[@glocketh7340]

dean talking over that one hater dude lol

[@musician17]

dean blunt should smoke a blunt with me while we talk about blueberries

[@musician17]

I was probably high or drunk or something when i wrote this. Not sure...

[@americanxtcy]

@@musician17 that's real as fuck though, i see the vision

[@user-of8gd2ix5i]

a voice

[@morvayne]

Why did he say his name was Glenn??

[@common580]

He is just takin the piss. In a few interviews he goes by glenn danzig, who is the founder of the 'punk band' misfits.

[@gothgrrl8711]

When he brings up the homophobia and domination of women in the black community suddenly everyone is worried about “dividing the community” like bro this is why these movements go nowhere

[@kano--]

i don’t think dean blunt is offering any real actionable solution to any problems here. the only thing he mentions that’s useful is artists may not be equipped to speak on these topics which is ironic 😂

[@movimentodoscacos]

yes he was not giving answers, he was asking questions. even race relations are affected by cultural imperialism, here in Brazil people are often dealing with our racial reality here through an Americanized (as in the US) lenses and that’s counterproductive and useless. Sure understanding the global reality of blackness is also important, as the lady said, we have to imagine a world where black people are free bc so far, they’re not. When he speaks of something deeper (and just as historically real) such as fear of the black body he’s tapping into something that could direct how English blacks could understand their situation without just pretending it is transposable from the US, including its cultural significants of blackness (such as Kendrick’s music). Then he was shut down lol

[@gui-辻]

​@@movimentodoscacosque resposta magnífica mano

[@glocketh7340]

The whole point of the event was to bring about discussions that could potentially lead to those solutions. Nobody expects one person to have all the answers

[@yxshi666]

visão ​@@movimentodoscacos

[@ShackSalmon]

I agree I like dean he makes good music but to say the problem isn’t with police is insane to me. Police literally uphold the status quo

[@hanawana]

love

[@megan2277]

very well spoken

[@yearofthedragonjane]

Why is Dean Blunt called Glenn Danzig here?

[@deanbluntbabyfather]

He likes to joke around even in settings like this

[@ShackSalmon]

Problem most definitely is with the police tho

[@MoMAPS5]

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[@guthriesavagefriedman9975]

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[@MoMAPS5]

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[@BagelBagelBagel]

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[@cian3410]

Moms ps5

[@MilesMalcom]

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[@listen223]

its badass that boiler room uk did this ' event ' with the movement

[@yellowgreymorals]

Can’t say I find Dean Blunt’s perspective to be very well thought out. It is not “more about us.” We didn’t make people racist against us. We can assess the misogyny, homophobia, etc. within ourselves and our society, sure, but racism will still be happening to us. Having discussions in which we assess the systems that affect us is very valid, and the people disagreeing with that are discouraging knowledge of that system (that is a heinous mistake). We can speak, read, write, fight, and reflect all at the same time. That is why Dean Blunt is incorrect here. Plus, he barely has an alternative.

[@riversofsaloum]

I really couldn’t agree more - thx for that comment

[@dipcheck]

dean defo had a j before dis

[@konseigu]

😮

[@j_gr26]

based

[@Stitchgamer863]

Lol

[@DG3K]

#notkanyewest

[@ptrcrispy]

He been calling out this perfomative BS before Ye

[@movimentodoscacos]

thank god. Glenn Danzig is much cooler #rocknroll

[@stabaholic187]

#NotMyKanye