Dean Park Station Video 41 - October Update 1

[@simonjohn8904]

Good job with the interior detailing on the buildings Dave, they look really good. I thought the scratch built signal box was very clever, but now Ive seen a KZbin video today of Waverley Station in the 1980's I have to say that you've absolutely nailed that signal box.... Its spot on!!! Well done..

[@SolarRailway]

Absolutely superb work on Dean Park Station! Great appreciation for all the smaller details of a realistic railway and looking forward to watching part 2 next. Cheers, Matt.

[@73kclem]

Great update as always. Amazing detailing the completed cable trunking and ballasting makes so much difference. The signal box is outstanding, love the control desk. Look forward to next month update. Keith

[@stewartsamson835]

Absolutely amazing your attention to detail. I shudder to think of the cost. Very inspirational

[@ScottDowneywoundedbear]

An awesome job on the station. The weathering job is top notch. You can buy an automotive paint that is flexible for the bumpers. Its designed for the bumpers on cars. Until part 2. Scott

[@graememorrison5456]

Dave your layout is fantastic you have been really busy and all your hard work is starting to pay off Well done mate Regards Graeme

[@eastham57]

I really like the way you present your videos. Always concise but informative. I especially like your attention to detail. Looking forward to your next update. Keep up the good work. We don't have the same level of interest in model railways here in New Zealand so your videos are always good to watch.

[@DeanPark]

Thanks Nick. I trying to give as much info as I can remember, especially on the brand of the items I use, the colours I use to paint them etc. Thanks for watching. Dave

[@hovermotion]

Wow Stunning track work you have a very close eye for detail....fantastic..... Love the signal box built into the retaining wall... I have the same air brush..it is outstanding vaule for money. ......jim

[@DeanPark]

Yeah the Neo is brilliant. Thanks, I am really chuffed with my scratch build signal box. Based on the real one at Edinburgh Waverley. Dave

[@bobtoo07]

Love the wee guys in the station watching the telly, lol....never seen anything like that before...great stuff!

[@Mooresbytube1]

Wow! Just love the work you've done and your unbelievable attention to detail. The signal box is nothing short of inspired and the work you have done on the tracks puts me to shame! Amazing work!

[@DeanPark]

Thanks mate. Its taken me 2 years just to get to this point. two years and several hundreds of ££'s! This hobby aint cheap is it? Your channel is one I watch often. It is great to see your progress. Dave

[@Mooresbytube1]

DaveClass47 It certainly isn't but I reckon its money well spent! I dread to think what my running total spent to date is….!!

[@howarth004]

Always a good effect with a bit of track grime , the buffer lights look very good

[@theworldalliancetwa]

Thank you for the advise my friends still designing the station so that will be my starting project and then work outward from the station

[@steburge1]

Great job Dave, looking forward to more!......Regards Steve

[@percomotion]

Fantastic Dave your hard work is certainly paying off,I'm just amazed by the detailing just looks like a proper station scene well done mate a work of art. Cheers for sharing Kev

[@DeanPark]

Cheers Kev, I am over the moon with what I have managed so far! Love running trains now that it looks more 'real' around the station, but still much more to do! Dave

[@percomotion]

I know what you mean Dave I've just started on my extension part of the layout and working on the points for the rural station scene(see latest video)but no where near you skills mate. Kev

[@DeanPark]

percomotion Will check it out asap. thanks.

[@waldenhouse]

Probably some of the neatest modelling I've seen. This is "Exhibition Standard" IMHO. Great Update!

[@DeanPark]

Wow, thank you so much for your comment. I do like to try make things as neat and tidy as I can. A lot of guys rush things and I just cant do that and not make a mess. After all, what's the hurry? I wish more people could see my layout. I like people to comment and make suggestions and give their feedback. Maybe one day I will do a exhibition layout, but I would never be happy with it, as I am my harshest critic! Dave

[@kevintregunna]

Hi Dave great update track looks so much better once weathered nice work great detailing around the station as well like the signal box detail well done cheers Kevin

[@DeanPark]

Cheers Kev, I watched your track weathering video more than once to get some tips!! Dave

[@shornford]

Looks excellent... very detailed. Thanks for the ideas too.

[@DeanPark]

My pleasure! Dave

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Whos been a busy boy!!! What a transformation!!!! Wow! This station area looks fantastic, the weathering, the details, that signal box!!!! U really hav a skill of attention to realism! Im esp blown away by ur building interiors, real perfection! Ur channel has fast become one of my faves! Wel done, and lookin forward to part 2 :)

[@DeanPark]

Cheers, yeah I have been busy lol. However by painting and preparing all of the little details like the speed signs etc in the summer its now just a case of putting them on the layout, hence the transformation is quick. I cant keep up this rate of progress, I will wear myself out lol. Thanks for your support. I really love showing others what I have done. Gives me a real buzz. Dave

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Wel its all paid off, coz wen u c it all as a collective its looks brill!! I knw wot u mean bout the buzz, it feels gud to show ur efforts n receive positive feedback! And helpful for the advice and opinions :) i may hav askd this before, bt r u subbd to my channel? I like to hav ppl of ur skil level comment and advise :)

[@DeanPark]

Yeah, Ive been subbd to you for a good while. Your common barn visitor video freaked me out lol. Hate creepy crawlies! lol

[@matthewsnowdenshunterguy3352]

Haha, ok :) wel thanx for the sub! Make sure u giv me any ideas ;)

[@AndyHudson-ModelRailwayBuilds]

Dave fantastic job of the weathering see what you meant by the Station is coming together it looks awesome now, all the hard work has really paid off, you really have done a super job, will get my airbrush to mine now, want to see part 2 Andy

[@DeanPark]

Part two coming today....uploading it now.

[@viliusstasaitis613]

awesom weathering, you mastered it mate :) and it's was worth waitin' for the update :)

[@trainmanbob]

Great video Dave. With the Peco buffer stops, they don't tell you, but you need to trim off the rail chairs so they sit down a bit further on the track. If only these manufacturers told you these things!! Cheers, Bob

[@DeanPark]

Yeah tell me about it...I went through a few until I worked that out lol. Dave

[@philiplogue2344]

Absolutely brilliant.

[@TimmsyTFG]

Your track work and detail is amazing!!

[@mallard44499988]

spot on job with ur signal box

[@FiveElms]

Excellent progress. Love the weathering. Well done. Jason.

[@DeanPark]

Cheers Jason. When I saw your impressive weathering with your new airbrush I knew I had to get a move on, as it looks so much better when weathered doesn't it? Dave

[@cedarcam]

Your weathering is looking good. When you have added the oily mix and toilet waste in the platforms it will be even better. On your points you can add a little satin black to the square pads the point switches slide on (Slide Chairs) These need to be kept well greased with graphite grease to stop them failing to move over. You are right TPWS was not generally introduced until around 2000 as you say. After the head on collision at Ladbrooke Grove, so no need for you to add the loops. AWS ramps as you say are 200 yards before a signal. In model terms I think 18 inches or so looks OK. They are not usually provided in bay platforms because the drivers cab would be ahead of the equipment unless it was a very long platform. The distance can be reduced in certain areas but the rule is they need to be 4 seconds running time from the signal to give time for the equipment to work before passing the signal. I am pleased to see you will be adding some bi-directional ones as these are common in station areas where they are fitted. Some bigger stations have an AWS gap area so non are provided in the platforms. The signal box is really good I think you should try more scratch building. In the 80's signals were not operated by keyboards but they were used to send train reporting numbers which lit up on the panel following the route of the train Also they had some that connected the signal post telephones.

[@DeanPark]

Hi, thanks for the comments. Yeah I knew about the keyboard and the signals, but I thought I would just give a representation and couldn't be bothered with fiddly little leavers. By the late 80's this box was unused anyway, but I have kept it in use - a bit of modellers artistic licence! As for the AWS...I just thought I would add the ones at the bay platforms for visual appeal and on two of the long bay platforms at Edinburgh Waverley I have got photos of the aws being used and later TPWS as well - safety over kill?! Where possible I will keep the aws to as near prototypical distance as I can, for example on platforms 2 and 3 (through platforms) I have them at the opposite end of the platform from the signal, which in scale length is around 200 yards. I am trying to get it as accurate as possible where the layout space allows me. Cheers Dave

[@cedarcam]

Hi Dave I agree it is hard to keep things in scale due to the lack of space most of us have so we just have to make it look right as best we can. I noticed the AWS at the end of the through platforms and thought they must be for the signals at the far end. AWS and TPWS is not really overkill The 2 systems work together AWS gives the driver a warning tone at a signal showing Double Yellow Single Yellow or Red The driver has to cancel the warning to keep the train moving before the brakes are automatically applied. This system was developed from the GWR one. TPWS detects the speed of the train and calculates if it is going too fast to stop at a red signal If the time taken to pass between 2 loops is too short the brakes are applied automatically. The warning on AWS can always be cancelled and the driver could do that and pass a danger signal as happened at Ladbrooke Grove. If a train passes a red signal fitted with TPWS it will be stopped. The driver cannot override it. So it checks the train is not going too fast and stops it if it is and stops a train that passes a danger signal. It is good the see your box still in open condition. A much better idea than having it out of use like the real one is now. The interior lighting is about right by the look of it. Not too bright so the signalmen can see the indications on the panels easily.

[@bswain9999]

lovely work - well done

[@matslarsson100]

Very nice job!!!

[@theworldalliancetwa]

Amazing! You've inspired me and my friend to start making one, we are making videos in the new year

[@DeanPark]

Hi. I look forward to seeing your videos. Thanks for the positive comment. It means a great deal to me to get positive and constructive feedback. Just one word of advice....take your time and make sure you are happy before moving on to the next stage. I tend to think about things for too long, but I enjoy planning and building as much as I do running trains! Many thanks. Dave

[@cprtrain]

Great video.

[@2KXMKR]

I would deffo recommend wiring up points the way you have done it. Probably the biggest mistake I've made with my N gauge layout was not doing that and trusting the current to pass through the rails. The inside of the point rail and blades get dirty very easily and every point has to be cleaned after just a few passes of a train, meaning short running sessions between lots of cleaning. Learned the hard way to spend a little more time on the track laying/wiring part of building a layout and have gone too far to rectify it :(

[@DeanPark]

I picked up the tip of wiring from others on youtube. It certainly makes a difference. Dave

[@bloodmarine77]

the layout looks totally brilliant dave...the weathering looks very good to. the only friendly criticism i have is that the layout still looks very clean and grey all over and could do with a lot more grime and a touch of colour (mostly darker) to make it more like the real thing. other than that dave you have done a brilliant job so far. terry

[@DeanPark]

Cheers Terry...parts of the layout will be treated to more grime in time. I am going to put bushes weeds etc in and around the area too, so hopefully that will make it look less clean. Point taken on board tho, thanks. Dave

[@FarlandHowe]

Maybe I will get an airbrush for the holidays. Your track sure looks good. What do you have for a compressor? Brilliant update, love your layout.

[@Oorail]

Great work... the AWS ramps and the consoles look great. I painted a few dozen of the Peco buffer stops without any problems with the paint flaking off, or damaging the buffer stops. I did however paint the buffer stops first, then installed them onto the track, and added the ballast later. You can see what I did here - oorail.com | Enhancing OO Gauge Buffer Stops

[@edboskey1107]

Can I just ask if you washed the buffers in a vinegar wash before painting. With soft plastic such as your buffers or the same is with airfix figures there is quite a bit of oily residue on the plastic you need to remove first. Having said that another good video and the layout is coming along nicely.

[@DeanPark]

Hi, washed in all sorts of things....they just don't like paint! lol. Tried enamels, acrylics, spraying, brushing etc etc. If you flex them the paint cracks. Still, they are in place now, so should be ok! Hopefully!!! Dave

[@Cheadleridgelanetmd]

Dave fantastic work looks amazing. Just to help tho as a driver dead end platforms don't have AWS ramps for signal when leaving but they will have a TPWS stop loop right next to the signal this is due to when you open the To set off from a standing start automatically arms the system and also sets the AWS sunflower to caution so you don't need a ramp

[@DeanPark]

Hi Steve, I didn't know that for sure, but put them there as a visual affect. I will remember for the future though, thanks for your insight. Am I correct in saying that TPWS didn't come into affect until 2001ish?, so being in the late 80s I couldn't use them. Dave

[@47606odin]

DaveClass47 yes, definitely don't need AWS ramps in the bay platforms, and the era you are modelling, no TPWS :-)

[@DeanPark]

47606odin They are glued in place now, but noted for future track laying. Cheers. Dave

[@MansfieldCS]

Dave. The station area is looking great. You are doing such a good job. Where did you but the airbrush? Cheers

[@DeanPark]

I bought it from the airbrush company I think. Google is and shop around, think it cost me £44ish.

[@anthonyashley9224]

Looks brilliant. Is your paint for use on the ballast acrylic or enamel

[@DeanPark]

Anthony Ashley Hi, its Enamel. In my experience it airbrushes better. I always prefer enamels. Thanks for your previous comments about the HST....I didn't mean to disappoint you by speaking and breaking the tension lol! Cheers. Dave

[@anthonyashley9224]

It is really disappointing that it is not possible to get phoenix or rail match enamel paints from the UK to Australia. Have to think of another means

[@FarlandHowe]

I am sure you've said it before, but where do you get the 10 commandments materials. I keep looking on line for it and only get religious references. I would be grateful, thanks, Rob

[@DeanPark]

Hi Rob, no problem, google cast-in-stone. The website is www . cast-in-stone. co .uk. Good luck finding it...amen! lol

[@FarlandHowe]

DaveClass47 Thank you Dave. I found it no problem and bought a bunch of stuff. Actually, though, I was specifically looking for those AWS magnets you have between the tracks. I have been using a carved wooden piece to simulate them, but the ones you have are outstanding and I would like to find some like yours. Could you please tell me who made them and where you got them?

[@DeanPark]

They are Peco, SL-45 I think the code is SL-45. Try www.track-shack.com They are the cheapest ones, or hattons etc.

[@FarlandHowe]

Yup, found them, thanks. You will see them soon on Farland Howe.

[@johnstubbington5163]

Hi I love your videos and of course Dean park Station!! I have watched video 39 about ballasting. Which one follows with colouring, or painting the rails?? Thank you. John Stubbington

[@DeanPark]

Hi John, thanks for getting in touch. I cant honestly remember about the weathering....but I use sleeper grime on the sides (several light passes until ALL of the metal rail is covered on all sides. Then I give the sleeper tops a dusting of it, before toning it down with roof dirt to give the grime effect. I will probably do a video in the next couple of months on track weathering. Cheers.Dave

[@johnstubbington5163]

Hi Dave, Thank you for your valued reply. Your layout is absolutely stunning!!! Oh, how I wish i could see the entire layout, to get some perspective of the size. Does this appear, in a previous update? Thank you. John

[@DeanPark]

John Stubbington Hi, go to the LAYOUT TOUR videos, filmed earlier in 2016. This shows shots of the entire attic space (I think!). This also gives you an insight into what I am planning for the other sides of the layout. When I have time and I save up the money! ;-)

[@Cheadleridgelanetmd]

Started being rolled out in 99 fully fitted out for 2004 so yes late 80's you wouldn't have them that's correct

[@AstraGTE1991]

Great look on weathering the track. Just an idea in the bay platforms, at Manchester Piccadilly there is oil drop trays in the 4ft. Could be an idea to recreate. i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv168/philld2/1245.jpg

[@DeanPark]

Thanks mate, all suggestions really welcome! those would be a great idea at my tmd.....when I ever get around to building that part. I am also working on how to make flushed toilet paper and shit look realistic as if its been flushed out of a loo for the bay platforms....lol Dave