time signatures 1/1, 2/2, 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, 6/8, 7/4, 8/8, 9/8, 10/4, 11/2, 12/8, 13/16 & 14/8 exposed

CobbTV Studios presents a demonstration of time signatures played with the top digit in numerical order from 1 - 14 (with short explanations on each one).
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1/1 [00:50]
2/2 [01:19]
3/4 [02:00]
4/4 [02:28]
5/4 [02:53]
6/8 [03:33]
7/4 [03:47]
8/8 [04:58]
9/8 [05:32]
10/4 [06:42]
11/2 [07:24]
12/8 [08:54]
13/16 [10:03]
14/8 [11:02]
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[@cobb_thedrummer]

Sponsored by HighlanderShop: www.highlandershop.com/ 1/1 00:50 2/2 01:19 3/4 02:00 4/4 02:28 5/4 02:53 6/8 03:33 7/4 03:47 8/8 04:58 9/8 05:32 10/4 06:42 11/2 07:24 12/8 08:54 13/16 10:03 14/8 11:02

[@aleksandarmakedonski8282]

7/8

[@ackovski]

You missed the Macedonian 7/8 :)

[@aleksandarmakedonski8282]

@@ackovski не може да ја удене 🤣

[@ackovski]

@@aleksandarmakedonski8282 ќе го научиме македонски, одма ќе го фати ритамот... :)))

[@vitalytravin631]

Highlander?! McLeod lives! There could be only one!

[@themandownstairs4765]

Observations: 1. He is a wizard 2. He's helping us count time Conclusion: he is a time wizard

[@kinio73]

maybe he's a pinball wizard

[@guerilla2013]

This needs more likes!!! 👍🏼

[@jessiefrancis2396]

Subdivided...:you mean sudivisions...? In the high school halls,in the shopping malls?

[@jessiefrancis2396]

Hey...yah...like all Native American music ever

[@jordanvaca6007]

awesome, he is the the clover kingdom king

[@al3ph35]

This has the energy of 2012 KZbin

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

I love it!

[@MyrdalMx]

Best year ever

[@zongzoogly4549]

I had to triple check that this video wasn't 7-10 years old while watching it

[@CreateToInitiate]

😂😂😂

[@edsonmontana]

si

[@kingmob2615]

Drink, skate, wear wizard hats, advertise for knives, and teach people how to play the drums. You seem like a fun fella.

[@zachlewis9751]

This is obviously Radagast

[@zachlewis9751]

This is obviously Radagast

[@zachlewis9751]

This is obviously Radagast

[@zachlewis9751]

This is obviously Radagast

[@luka-gr1qx]

in this world you are either a fun fella or a fun fella

[@suchisthisplace]

a wizard who is trying to teach you drums but also wants you to buy a knife.

[@sandorgordonlipcsei6718]

He just makes sure to help you being on the cutting edge of the job, haha

[@FunZee_96]

Damn 💀

[@christopherenders4280]

He started off as a wizard but multiclassed into bard and rogue. Truly a powerful combo.

[@Dwaynesjohnson]

The fact that you got through an entire demonstration of time signatures without a single tool song is very impressive

[@salival.]

all I ever think about when talking about odd signatures is tool 😭

[@giddycadet]

or king gizzard !

[@bobthebear1246]

@@salival. What about Rush?

[@salival.]

Them too sometimes

[@BigMuff75]

Tool, the working class man's prog band.

[@tolsen8212]

This guy seems like a prog rock nerd who wouldn't be out of place in the 70s. I like him.

[@lfader]

Agree. This is a 70s time machine very cool demo/ info.

[@tolsen8212]

PS: I'm getting some weird comments in my inbox that are then being deleted. Note: I'm not saying he IS a prog drummer, as in his signature style...I'm saying he seems like someone who is INTO prog rock in my retro 70's movie I'm casting him in inside my brain.

[@davebryan1890]

You're casting this guy in a 70's retro movie in your head - I'm gonna have to nope on that, I've spoken with the people and this is something we need in full production

[@MattLathrum]

I was hoping for Genesis Apocalypse in 9/8 from Supper's Ready.

[@jcfiggy]

geek but yes

[@wdwd11tr]

I've been saying Punk Rock is just Polka for years. So nice to hear someone else gets it.

[@behindthen0thing]

Hmmm

[@binglebop5877]

Old school death metal is extreme polka

[@JeffWithAnF]

I’ve said the same thing about certain thrash metal songs. Makes sense since thrash is punk rock combined with New wave of English metal.

[@caeswingsproductions3995]

As a big punk fan, and also love polka/irish/folk/Celtic music, yes it's a spot on observation

[@geoffreycarter3981]

I tried telling my parents this in high school. they didn't go for it, but a small part of me thinks they appreciated my academic approach to justifying my punkness.

[@catsjacinto]

This video is a godsend! Nevermind me leaving these timestamps here for future reference. 0:51 1/1 1:19 2/2 2:00 3/4 2:28 4/4 2:57 5/4 3:34 6/8 3:49 7/4 4:59 8/8 5:33 9/8 6:44 10/4 7:24 11/2 8:57 12/8 10:03 13/16 11:02 14/8

[@michaelcoletta4547]

He left timestamps in the description, but thank you anyhow! 👍

[@catsjacinto]

@@michaelcoletta4547 I feel dumb, I never thought to check the description. 🤦🏻😂

[@KillianDeaton]

8/8 is specifically useful for when plying music that has dancing choreographed to it. Dancers always count to 8 so it’s no trouble using 8/8 time for drummers. It makes it much easier to work with each other

[@momaamp]

8/8 also is used in agrupations of 3 - 3 - 2

[@kailin98]

And 5 6 7 8!

[@frankfertier34]

they don't count in 8/8: they count by packs of eight beats in quarters, never in eights (spent my whole life playing for dance classes), easier to manage

[@frankfertier34]

@@kailin98 nonsense ?

[@KillianDeaton]

@@frankfertier34 you can change the technical timing to adjust for that

[@dinonuggies5551]

this dude seems like the chill upperclassmen that helps all the freshmen during marching season

[@Rio_1111]

Muhammad Avdol!

[@dinonuggies5551]

@@Rio_1111 YES! I am!

[@DrowningFish429]

It feels good being your 1000th like... Oddly satisfying lol

[@bitspacemusic]

One upperclassman helps. Many upperclassmen *help. Carry on.

[@lanedj801]

Usually wizards don’t have 2 wands, he must be powerful

[@Itsunclegabby]

I have lots actually. Different uses. :)

[@tootiejamba]

I recommend everyone listen to Uriah Heep, The Wizard

[@commandercaptain4664]

That's Dungeon Master territory.

[@sirsteez9477]

@@Itsunclegabby I hope u arent saying what I think ur saying

[@pandorasboxofstuff186]

He’s definitely sayings what you think he’s saying

[@JiggleRat]

Still dont get it

[@johnsmithsu310]

Lmao 💀

[@MTETELEVISION]

Just count

[@vinijoncrafts2882]

You just count until a pattern repeats, just pick a random pop song and you'll probably count 4 beats until the chord changes or maybe the drums repeat a pattern, it's all about patterns.

[@BoundInChains]

This video sucks

[@BASEDHITLORLOVER14n88]

​@@vinijoncrafts2882yeah but what does the bottom 4 mean. I know that when you count 1 2 3 4 theres actually also other spots outside of that, so isnt it actually 12 beats and then 4 accents? Does the bottom four in the time signature mean that you can fit 4 beats into one accent? So like for 6/4 it would be 1 2 3 4 5 6 but its still the same as 4/4 as in you can only go 1 and a 2 and a 3 and so on? Instead of like 1 and a a a a 2

[@adormec.1762]

I never imagined Hogwarts teaches music now.

[@cai2727]

The disrespect to professor flitwick

[@cianleonizoabad]

@@cai2727 True. Professor Flitwick be the reason for the ballroom dance music

[@PLNKYELLOWBLACK]

Swish and flick

[@dundersvenska9455]

That bard magic you know

[@brevyansingollo1411]

Music is a type of magic you know

[@guy_in_the_moon]

cant wait for this to be 12 years old with millions of views

[@generallygrateful1952]

You'll literally have to wait for 12 years

[@savage22bolt32]

I can't wait that long. Gunna do something else.

[@morningstar8217]

Nearly a million already

[@savage22bolt32]

@@generallygrateful1952 That's 378 million seconds. 60x60x24x365x12 = 378,432,000.

[@chubbyrain1813]

cant wait for this comment to be 12 years old

[@professorpsoop]

After dozens of explanations, I've never understood time signatures and I still don't. But I loved watching this.

[@justandardprocedure]

Played guitar for 25 years. Mediocre drummer at best. I definitely can't wrap my head around what he's telling me. It just strikes me as, " just follow the drummer. "

[@fincentvangogh]

they're for playing, reading, and understanding music. they don't make a huge difference when listening to music, tho. essentially just gives you a vague idea of how to count and play a piece. such as 3/4 taking a slower, more elegant tone compared to 2/2 being faster and more exciting. they also tell you when a downbeat is. they aren't the most essential when it comes to easier pieces, but they make such a big difference in more complex pieces with how much easier they make it to understand tl;dr: they're to make sharing music between people easier

[@shasta_le_bab]

idk if its what you wanted but if i ever want to find a time signature, i tap along to the beat and it comes naturally, thinking too hard about it makes it more difficult imo

[@cowboybob7093]

@@justandardprocedure On your keyboard hit shift + < and slow it down.

[@deadmanswife3625]

@@cowboybob7093 thanks Cowboy Bob. The only one I understand is 3/4 time the Walt's

[@jbdub08]

Massive props for the NIN shoutout. Trent writes a lot of his music in odd time signatures and people often don't notice because he uses so many sound layers.

[@Dudeguymansir]

And not just March Of The Pigs either! Great video

[@MerkinMuffly]

For anyone looking for rock songs in the rare 13/16 time signature, Firth of Fifth by Genesis along with the equally rare 15/16 . Phil Collins catches a lot of flak for going commercial, but he was an excellent drummer.

[@demonslayer5613]

Phils 70s genesis drumming is some of the best ever

[@RevolutionATX]

Saw Genesis in 1984, they had two drummers. Phil Collins and the other drummer did a drum solo duel/duet that was the coldest shit I've ever seen live.

[@bryanayers4557]

the song dance on a volcano by genesis has some odd stuff in it as well.

[@sono9121]

Huh neat

[@smith507]

And then you hear Phil Collins' work on Brand X

[@1waychild]

Self-taught drummer here. Been playing quite a while, but since I am a working man I lacked the time to really spend the time. Yet, I still play, and I play fairly well. Long story short ... I always considered myself a 4/4 drummer. Ya know ... Rock drummer. Well ... after watching this it turns out I am not just a 4/4 drummer. I can play lots of different time signatures. I just don't know how to count them. Thanks man .... Made my day.

[@DecrepitationMetalAB]

I just watched it today and I feel the same way

[@YnseSchaap]

Same here 🤣

[@skeeterd5150]

That means you feel it. Neil peart didn’t count he felt it

[@professorpsoop]

However many times it's been explained to me, I've never understood time signatures. But Cobb does a great job anyway LOL

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Same with me.. Same as playing guitar..I dont read actual music I just do it..

[@kaitlyncollison6908]

JD Salinger presents: Time Signatures: What Do They Know? Do They Know Things?? Let’s Find Out!

[@kvbvs6457]

lol i was thinking exact same thing

[@HarveyCastletineJackson]

Erica! You can't be here, this place is filled with children

[@jacolemia]

What's this? A crossover episode??

[@Joverover]

I knew I wasn't the only one lmao

[@Oosjhteuikmm]

You're a legend

[@callasocrazywow]

8/8 is generally for mixed meters like 3+3+2, it’s not super common but sometimes fits the music just a bit better

[@MrButterInaCan]

Was gonna leave this comment. Two triplets followed by a duplet is way easier to read in 8/8 imo.

[@callasocrazywow]

@@MrButterInaCan yeah the way of writing them as mixed meters is like it was designed to look as confusing as possible

[@luizsouto4019]

I totally agree!!!

[@TheBlackQueen]

To go further: -15/8 = The Ocean by Led Zeppelin -16/8 = Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield (alternates with 14/8) -17/8 = Open Car by Porcupine Tree -18/8 = Birds Of Fire by Mahavishnu Orchestra -19/8 = Home by Dream Theater -20/8 = Gibbon by TTNG -21/8 = 7empest by Tool -22/8 = The First Circle by The Pat Metheny Group -23/8 = Surgical Strike by Queensrÿche -24/8 = Lateralus by Tool -25/8 = How's This For Openers? by Don Ellis -26/8 = Here Comes The Sun by The Beatles (this one surprised the Hell out of me, but it's there!) -27/8 = Witches Promise by Jethro Tull -28/8 = Octavarium by Dream Theater -29/8 = March Of The Pigs by Nine Inch Nails ...Not going any further, though there are some monsters out there. Could some of these be interpreted as split measures with combinations of different time signatures? Of course. But if they repeat at least twice in that same combination, it isn't too unreasonable to combine them to simplify the writing, at least enough to make this list.

[@chelfyn]

Tubular bells is 15/8 (really it’s an 8/8 and a 7/8)

[@ethanfitzpatrick309]

Aye Tool made it twice wassup

[@TheBlackQueen]

@@chelfyn That's actually a big misconception due to the confusion between the denominator and the beat. Firstly though, let me amend my comment as I meant to say that it was a combination of 14/8 (not 7/8) and 16/8, which if you combined would be 30/8, or rather simplified to 15/4. That's where the confusion comes in. The piano rhythm is quite fast so it wouldn't make sense for each quarter note value to be 2 notes each, making each note an 8th note. As a result, the first half of the riff is 14 8th notes and the second half is 16, hence why I said it alternates between them. If we called it 15/8, then that would mean every quarter note value had 4 notes and it would be slower than walking speed, especially for a riff at that speed. Faster notes generally should be attributed to a faster beat, and the denominator of the time signature should represent the beat value. It's like the 7/4 vs 7/8 argument. An example of 7/4 is Money by Pink Floyd because the quarter note is the recognised drum beat and translates when it switches to 4/4 in the guitar solo. An example of 7/8 is Tom Sawyer by Rush where the exact opposite happens. The main beat is a slower 4/4 but switches to 7/8 during the synth and guitar solo section, translating that quarter note feel where it feels like 4/4 but missing an 8th note. To sum it up, it's more accurate or at least simpler to say that Tubular Bells is a combination of 14/8 + 16/8, or at best 15/4 if you truly wanted to condense it all to one measure. 15/8 implies that it's much slower than it is. The speed is about the same as the 7/8 section in Tom Sawyer, and thus if considered 15/8, would make the beat the same pace as the verses of Tom Sawyer, which it definitely isn't.

[@tsian7328]

Another 15/8 one I believe is the intro and outro of I Think I Lost My Headache by Queens of the Stone Age

[@chrisjobe2270]

I personally think that feeling very whacky time signatures is much easier when you split them up, especially when the down beat falls in specfic places in between the larger time signature. For example, the main riff in Lateralus by Tool not only is written, but also is better felt as 9/8, 8/8, 7/8. This was actually how the riff was meant to be written and felt, since Adam Jones said the song was going to be called 9-8-7 and he realised that 987 was a fibonaccian number - hence why there are multiple references to the fibonacci sequence in the song. It may be easier to write out on paper as a combination of the smaller time signatures, but I think that reading and particularly feeling these types of songs makes more sense to write them as changing time signatures. However this does also depend on where the downbeat falls. Another example you've given is 7empest (sorry to use Tool again I do listen to other bands I swear lol), and here you would have a hard time counting all the way to 21 before starting a new bar. I would count this as 10/8 (some would say 5/4) and 11/8 changing, since it is obvious where the downbeat falls. (7empest can also be counted as 3 sets of 7/8 is you're a nutter) Hope this makes sense :)

[@EricJacobusOfficial]

Thank you for explaining that Outkast song

[@aureumursa1833]

I honestly never thought of it as anything more than a standard time signature

[@weehudyy]

@Bad_Script Yep , that is how I counted it . The first time I played it I had never heard it and was doing a walk in with a covers band at a wedding ... The bass player was also a drummer and conducted the ONE TWO when it came around then went back to singing ... All made sense after that

[@bakerfam1000]

@@weehudyy That is correct, harkens back to the drama on tiktok if it was in 11 or 4/2 alternating. It's the 4/2 as someone who has seen it notated for pep band tunes

[@weehudyy]

@@bakerfam1000 Used a lot in country music . Townes Van Zant's ' Pancho and Leftie ... Bob Dylan slips in the bar of two four every now and then ... Then there is the mid section weirdness of King Crimson's Starless ... 13/8 , but break it into two bars of 3/4 two of 2/4 and another of 3/4 ( 1-2-3 , 2-2-3 , 1-2 , 1-2 , 1-2-3 ) and away ya go .

[@cathalmckinley6297]

Love you Eric !!

[@DougGoobanko]

Ok so apparently Michael Reeves drums now and not surprisingly he's really good

[@dylanh8163]

was looking for this comment!

[@palmeraniian]

I was almost convinced but there was no cursing

[@spoopyscaryskelebones3846]

@@palmeraniian good

[@LiMCRiMZ]

I feel like I've stumbled upon an alternate reality in which Michael Reeves got into drumming rather than programming. I much prefer this universe.

[@koaladelespace]

where drumming, instead of coding, has saved him from falling into crumbling self destructive & degenerate tendencies

[@martincortes9364]

@@koaladelespace It must be all that Monster

[@Nossairito]

This Michael Reeves would make the kind of chaotic videos like 'I made my roommate's glasses break by drumming to the right frequency'

[@floatingdisembodiedhead8975]

If in this universe Lily actually talk through her mouth instead of talking nasally, i'm in.

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

I like how the title says "exposed" as if all these time signatures have been the subject of conspiracies or like they need to be debunked...

[@matthewjones6786]

I personally have a sneaking suspicion that Big Time Rush is withholding the secret of 19/37 timing...

[@eric8764]

Sorry I would like, but it's at 69.

[@23Bandz_]

@@eric8764 not anymore

[@izhamsham843]

@@23Bandz_ You like watching civilisation burn 😭

[@ranchlord77]

FOR REEEALS lmao

[@ktvx.94]

Alternate title: "How to prog and actually have any idea of what you're doing"

[@kaguyajnt333]

to write prog you actually roll the dice and pick numbers. then just randomly switch it

[@reapervich4192]

Lmao

[@jimbles717]

Prog was probably invented when a guys record player was skipping and he said "huh that sounds cool"

[@brenjmorris]

Gotta love prog

[@reapervich4192]

@@brenjmorris yea same

[@man.of.many.pockets]

8/8 and 16/16 is useful for understanding changing time signatures in certain songs. Dance of eternity has a section with changing 16 times with the odd bar of 16/16 because its easier to digest in that context rather than seeing 4/4 written between a bar of 11/16 and 13/16.

[@singingpanda1242]

The bojack horseman reference at the start caught me off guard, a man of culture.

[@dissonantdreams]

I was just browsing & wasn’t even really gonna watch this video, but that intro totally sold me!

[@heber2842]

what is this, a crossover episode?

[@michelegiuli8620]

@@dissonantdreams same

[@dananskidolf]

I've titled a work presentation in that format before :D

[@haydenr6208]

Fr it had me thinking I was watching bojack horseman for a split second

[@noisy99_]

Anyone who manages to make good music out of 1/1 is a goddamn genius

[@mrpresident8546]

Very slow tempo only use sixteenth notes

[@Zachary_Cordova]

Very fast tempo slow down time to make note last longer

[@xbenci]

mh, that's an interesting point. I ain't no expert on this, but this thought immediatly came to mind: could some drone music be counted on 1/1? cause if so there's plenty of great 1/1 tracks out there!

[@gregothy9190]

Technically you could do any song in 1/1 if your conductor is willing to give you enough downbeats lmao

[@TonyVazquez8265]

You're right! 😆🤣

[@oldguy9078]

I have a story I would like to share. I played drums in a cover band all through high school and when it came time to go to college I said ok I will major in music. The first day of music theory I knew it was a bad decision. I could not read music and had not a clue. I took drums and I thought ok I can do this. Again I could not read music the band director gave us sheet music for drums the first day. There was only one other student in the class besides me. I always let him play first and just repeated what I heard him play. It did not take long to change majors. I was the type of drummer I could listen to a song and repeat what I heard I was ok but not like you man. Enjoyed your video you are very knowledgable and a great drummer.

[@13donstalos]

You can play be ear. You're in good company (e.g., Lennon and McCartney).

[@MerkinMuffly]

The 12/8 shuffle must be the beat on Fool in the Rain.

[@majeutycah]

yes it is, it's also Jeff Porcaro's Rosanna (Toto) shuffle

[@davioushardious5042]

@@majeutycah Porcaro has a vid where he says he took both the purdie shuffle and fool in the rain and came up with the Rosanna groove.

[@torcolts19]

For some reason I thought he was gonna modulate

[@hangingwithmatty9465]

Tool

[@clemwest4536]

There's a good Spotify playlist with songs that feature the Purdie Shuffle, and there are a few not on there like King Gizzard's Beginner's Luck or Ben Jones' remix of Latch...

[@antoniokaram8189]

Pianist here, whenever I feel the piece I'm playing is hard, I rewatch this video and remember to be thankful I'm not a dummer.

[@chewingpiano]

I'm a pianist too and the time signature applies to us as well, the real challenge is the off time signatures in jazz and progressive rock (:

[@gehirndoper]

I recommend Bartok to learn to count in different time signatures as a pianist.

[@gageharden1423]

You guys have pitch to worry about though and that's confusing to me still.

[@noname8354]

Still better than clef changes

[@gehirndoper]

@@gageharden1423 Nah, for pianists pitch isn't a concern. Press the key and you get a fixed pitch. For other instruments (or voice) getting pitch and intonation correct can be very tricky.

[@seanwoodburn2616]

I don't care if this feels young or old. It is a superb demonstration. How many of the critics can count and APPLY all of these signatures? As a veteran of music academia I can definitely say that this would be a fantastic lecture in first semester music theory. Great content. Cheers!

[@NoTraceOfSense]

We’re not being critical; we’re just observing that this content feels like it’s from a different era of KZbin.

[@CoyoteSinbad]

@@NoTraceOfSense Fact.

[@charlablevins474]

#KevinCrabbDrums

[@ryanclark895]

@@NoTraceOfSense and its a good vibe

[@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786]

@@charlablevins474 and Kevin Paradis too. He's another incredible drummer.

[@bassfunkmaster85]

The amazing thing about rush is how they disguise odd time signatures. Usually bands will emphasize odd time signatures to show off, but to me the best bands can make you nod your head along and you won’t know that it’s something jazzy

[@benjaminf754]

This settles it: Outkast is a prog band.

[@kaphizmey6229]

remember when the academy in charge of the grammys renamed the “urban contemporary” category to “progressive r&b”? yeah, this

[@CraigKeidel]

Andre has been known to bust out in some wild theremin solos during practice sessions (but not really)

[@robinlepioufle]

Outcast - Abysmal

[@carolecksit2947]

They’re D-Beat OBVIOUSLY

[@vollmond9342]

Always has been

[@ARMYStrongHOOAH17]

This man got the shittiest cymbals Zildjian ever made and you'd never know it just by listening. Great musicians, as seen here, don't need the best or most expensive gear to sound good. Great video!

[@thebusinesswoman23]

Ah yes... but the beads and the aged secret Zildjian alloy make it all the better . 😏

[@johnbemery7922]

I suspect Hendrix would sound like Hendrix on any guitar....the music comes from the musician.

[@ARMYStrongHOOAH17]

@@johnbemery7922 lol, well yes to an extent, maybe. But the tone of the instrument also makes a huge difference. Think Pantera, or Van Halen. They have very distinct guitar tone, and in fact EVH is kinda famous for that tone, which is why the 5150 and Peavy 6505 are so iconic in rock and, particularly, metal. Same can be true in drums: low quality cymbals or drum shells can put off harsh, unpleasant, and annoying frequencies (like the Zildjian ZBT cymbals do, in my opinion). But of course great musicians and audio engineers may be able to work around or mitigate such shortcomings. But I'm rambling at this point.

[@flaccidego4291]

Speaking of Hendrix. By stringing his guitar upside down, he had some modifications issues affecting intonation. To make up for it he detuned every string a semitone. Plus he played EXTREMELY "loose" aka expressive or trance like. All 3 of these things are as unconventional as it gets!!! & yet he sounded incredible. So his strings were backwards. They were also out of proper tune, & he played way too loose which caused him to make lots of mistakes, but this genius & master of a guitar player made it all incredibly unnoticeable.

[@willywayne5299]

But didn't Jimi play a right handed guitar just flipped around to lefty,so the strings where just the same if you flipped them to right so no restringing!

[@connorgraham5421]

as somebody who has no interest in learning an instrument or any music, this was fantastic

[@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786]

Nice

[@flaccidego4291]

Right. Save urself the trouble. Playing an instrument is like being in a relationship. One relationship alone is hard enough to maintain. So for any novices out there heed my wise advice, & choose one or the other. If I had known how much time both relationships involve when I was younger I woulda chosen only the guitar. Choose wisely my friends:D

[@minmosa]

Really enjoy this video! While watching I realized a lot of Mother 3's music has drum beats with more uncommon time signatures, which is why it can be difficult to combo in-game. 13/16 has captivated me completely.

[@jacobnacho]

He actually made a video on Masked Man’s Theme from Mother 3! It’s a good one kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoLEoXaIZtCmeZI

[@paccie9689]

The song for the first masked man battle is in approximately 29/16. I’ve never gotten a 16 hit on it before

[@RedHeadForester]

I've never seen this guy before, but the way he explains stuff combined with how he talks with more physical gusto than an Italian is really effective and endearing.

[@newton4010]

Not only dude has great drumming skills but also never lost that mewing streak.

[@fattyjaybird7505]

" A Wizard is never LATE!! ....Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to! "

[@loft6424]

best comment ever

[@headbangerhank]

One would say, he’s always in time

[@renkor3]

xD

[@qrrbrbirbel2]

A wizard is never rushing, nor is he dragging. He in precisely the time he means to.

[@EthanRom]

no wonder drummers are always late for practice

[@connorwirsing8318]

"polka, or punk rock" Oh boy will you love the dreadnoughts.

[@jery3385]

Polka never dies amirite

[@omgvague]

I love when punk gets fused into genres/styles you wouldn't normally find it. Flogging Molly (folk) and Gogol Bordello (gypsy/polka) are a couple bands that fit that spectrum that I enjoy a lot.

[@joshsimmons2663]

@@jery3385 my son is 8 and is a drummer in a local polka band. He plays bass and snare.

[@jery3385]

@@joshsimmons2663 damn, at such an early age? That's great!

[@joshsimmons2663]

@@jery3385 been playing since he was 5. Plays the piano, accordian, tuba and trumpet as well

[@DaBubblyBinkus]

That 13/16 groove is now my favorite odd groove, there's such a smooth flow and not clunky like other signatures may be.

[@Giantcrabz]

Take Five is pretty smooth

[@guitarmatricide4834]

I love that you used the term “subdivided” during the Rush section. Be cool or be cast out!

[@veronicalane1458]

Subdivisions; Classic!

[@richardconnold8060]

I like this video. He's not detached, and subdivided, in the mass-production zone.

[@1dariansdad]

Without a doubt, the best, most understandable and accurately performed demonstration of music time. Great job!

[@leth4_ul]

Literally

[@coreblaster6809]

Imagine being able to say "let's make it groovy" and actually being able to make it groovy

[@kidamazed]

Dude, you're a legend. It's truly a skill to show something like this and make it make sense (not to mention relevant) for many. Kudos!

[@hemanthrvn4661]

Dude whatever you did to KZbin, it has been recommending me this video like a freak...finally caved and watched today.good job

[@jojoversus1100]

SAME HERE. I've had this recommended like 20 times a day. I finally am watching it right now. Lol.

[@MichaelTaylor-no4do]

Lol same

[@c3mi979]

His "Hey ya" singing in a wizard hat magic lured me in as well. I resisted for like a week, but here I am. With no regrets.

[@RockyStradlin]

@@jojoversus1100 same

[@yungdomino4718]

KZbins been listening to us rehearse and they're like "PLEASE watch this video, for the love of god"

[@videogeekin]

“ What every guitarist always wanted to understand.”

[@nathanhyde2079]

Lmao ain't that the truth and it's what made watch this because I'm one of those "guitarists".

[@wrcz]

I gave up 3 minutes in lol

[@TheElectrizantee]

what every guitarrist should understand if he is in a band

[@eternalroots6753]

Guilty as charged, didn’t use a metronome but people so far didn’t mention anything about my timing in my KZbin music vids

[@888visuals]

This video is worthy of a re-edit with text overlays counting out the beats...where you have a string of numbers along the bottom of the screen and they light up as you play along with the beat. That would really help with the educational component. Cheers!

[@TommyShlong]

Agreed!

[@TheRuVedicChannel]

Agreed

[@okebaram]

That would be cool, because I still don't get the counting for why a beat is this or that and I was expecting to find out that effortlessly

[@eddyary3679]

Agreed

[@strongbad666]

As someone who has played drums since 2001, I really appreciated how quickly you went through everything and how well you explained it. Unfortunately, in my band I am the principal songwriter and often have to focus in on non-drum things, so it is always nice to have a moment to only focus in on playing the drums. Great explanations! Thanks!

[@deanisplemoni]

I love how his composure falls apart once he gets to 6/8. Relatable.

[@danielblackburn4626]

Special case that I’ve observed 8/8 being more useful than 4/4 was when score transitioned frequently between 6/8 or 7/8. Visually and mentally the subdivision of 8/8 was easier to maintain in this case. Otherwise 4/4 would have felt like cut time.

[@runninglyrics]

Omg dude I just made this comment about a song I wrote doing exactly this that I recently posted on my channel 😂🤣😂

[@SidV101]

I was gonna say this. My favorite song shifts from 9/8 to 8/8 to 7/8 so counting 4/4 in the middle would throw me off

[@nuisanceguru]

i wonder which tool song that is........

[@dillonjosephdrums9386]

​@@SidV101lateralus It's lateralus

[@marshallemmet1366]

You could sub-divide 8/8 by a 5 and a 3 if you really wanted to!

[@cobb_thedrummer]

That’s a great point! Also in my “Odd Time Signatures in Beatles songs” video I explain how I discovered a measure of 8/8 in the song Yer Blues! 😅

[@owenyoshida9202]

I believe that the Great Dying by the Ocean is notated in alternating measures of 5/4 and 3/4, it could be in 8/4 or 8/8

[@santoriomaker69]

I actually made a composition where it follows this 3 + 5 pattern where it feels wonky to count with the usual 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + that 4/4 implies (since + implies that it's an offbeat weaker than the numbers, but in my case, the +'s feel equally as the beats 1-4, so it's easier to count in 8/8)

[@killermetalwolf2843]

you could also do 3+3+2

[@220_hz4]

I've always wondered about this, because the song Upstairs by the band Women uses this exact same method of counting 3 + 5 to make 8/8!

[@tylerannie222]

I am not a drummer but I do play other instruments and this really helped me understand time signatures and how to count them properly. Thank you.

[@OneVideoGamePlease]

8/8 is super useful when something has frequent mixed meter feeling changes, so you can do 3+3+2, 2+3+3, or 3+2+3 (especially if part of the ensemble is doing mixed meter and the rest is playing in straight 4). This way the time signature stays the same so it’s more straightforward for the performers. Frank Ticheli uses this through the piece Postcard.

[@trustnugget280]

This is actually the first time I understood why you'd need 8/8, thanks

[@SE4GY7]

Came here to comment this. Could also apply to 9/8 which the zep example shows.

[@SE4GY7]

Mixed meters could also be a reason to use 10/4 in place of 5/4, 12/8 instead of 6/8, etc. Of course the "feel" of the beat could also be a valid reason, for example some songs just feel better as 12/8 rather than 6/8. You can't explain it but it just feels right. Feel is a good enough justification for any notation decision in my opinion.

[@judkilgore3822]

Thanks for that breakdown. I was going to comment about how I had always thought 8/8 & 4/4 were similar but with a different feel. I said that to my band’s drummer last year and she snapped, “No, it’s not!”

[@ivanokmunoz]

8/8 it's the time signature for salsa and for tango.

[@somecomposingfudsa]

8/8 gives the piece more room for rhythmic claves: you can do 3+3+2, 3+2+3, 2+3+3 you can do the same in 4/4 but it's harder to notate

[@williamross6477]

This is exactly what I came down here to say

[@harrisonwillow7697]

The notation wouldn't be harder. I feel like it's almost entirely a matter of how the computer wants the players to subdivide the music

[@housethegrate6093]

It's not any harder to notate, but it gives you more options for beaming to visually show where the beats are; how the measure should be subdivided. 4/4 is 4 beats and should be notated as such. If the music is 3+3+2 it makes more sense and is easier to read as 8/8 and beamed accordingly.

[@valentins3341]

I like your argument and I'm not sure if my thought adds anything to it but maybe it's exenplifies: given you have a section with alternating time signatures of wich some are odd-number/8th and some others are 4/4, then it's definitely more consistent putting these in 8/8.

[@brandonylion]

Back when music was only on paper or played live, the actual "song" WAS the sheet music. So, there were ways to make your sheet music look fancier (one reason why notation is often quite elegant, I'm sure) and we took it a step further by being able to change time signatures to sort of reflect the feel of the music just by looking at the score. If you wanted to write a song that was super frilly and airy and light, you could use 2/2 and there would be lines and empty circles all over the place, most of your notes would be whole notes making the sheet music easy on the eyes; alternatively, if you wanted your song to be bold and powerful and loud, you could use 8/8, or perhaps even 12/8 and there would be 8th notes and 16th notes and 32nd notes all over the place making the sheet music dark and crowded. This way it was easier to tell what kind of song it might be just by looking at it, even at a distance (I'd say "or to a layman", but back then, freaking everyone could read music lol). I think the main reason for redundant time signatures like these are because of this. It also allows a lot of flexibility when mixing time signatures, for example keeping the bottom number the same while changing the top number.

[@gyrogearloose1345]

Slow down Eddy! You can't just be throwing around the "redundant" word willy-nilly . . .

[@highpath4776]

How easy is it to hear a difference between 3/4 (Waltz) and 6/8 (March) , of course adding in as he has done infil beats does go slightly different in the two time signatures. Of course throw triplets into 4/4 and goodness know where you end up, and does 4/4 have to have the stress on 1 and 3 ?

[@CaravanCzar]

"We?" And speaking like you remember those days fondly, and with more than second-hand knowledge. What I'm getting at is you have to legally tell us if you are a vampire.

[@edwhite7475]

'Dark and crowded' The very reason Zappa called Terry Bozzios feature piece 'The Black Page' It was COVERED with notes.

[@schmecklin377]

Very well said

[@richarddillard1199]

Despite all the comments about his "Wizard Hat", I actually enjoyed the video and learned about something I've only heard of but didn't know about. Thanks Cobb

[@cts1979]

Harry Potter is a solid musician. A wizard you might say.

[@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786]

lol

[@FrancoAguilar792]

Yer a drummer Harry!

[@bijikedelai]

Boy you just blow my mind with that Outkast odd signature.

[@lassorb4752]

Yeah seriously, made perfect sense though 👏🏼😍

[@comp.lex4]

I've seen orchestral pieces use 8/8 with much different feels than the 2-2-2-2 that you talk about. 3-2-3 and 2-3-3 are probably the best use cases, but dividing it into 8/8 (as opposed to 4/4) gives room for more fluidity between these drastically different feels

[@erickcampisi949]

Fun and informative.... I've been playing music 3 and a 1/2 decades and I learned shum shtuff here! Thanks Wiz! Cheers!

[@unfortuitousash]

the title said time signatures would be exposed, but after watching this, its me who feels exposed.

[@externity9569]

You broke this down so much easier than any music teacher I've ever had

[@shieladixon]

I'm not a drummer at all (brass and woodwind) but I found this excellent. Thanks Cobb. The drummer is the only person who should explain time signatures, particularly the complex ones.

[@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786]

Bassists are actually very adept time wizards too. Well, at least non-rock ones.

[@cavanray6742]

@@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786 Very true. Spoken as a rock bassist who joined a prog grunge band with a time wizard drummer. I've been forced to get good lol. Probably why this video was recommended.

[@thebusinesswoman23]

@@raperepublicanwomentheysee1786 in my opinion, that's because bassists and drummers in bands often play directly off eachother ... ( the backbone, or simply the bones , if you will) and the guitars, keys, vocals etc. often play around them (kind of the muscles/tissue/nerves etc. surrounding the bones) 🤷‍♀️ it's how I've always viewed it when I'm playing with others lol ✋ wtf I just read your username . Lmfao wow 👏 brava

[@frankfertier34]

disagree: every musician should be aware of how time signatures articulate: go watch indian classical musicians, for example: talas perfect knowledge are prior to any rythmic playing (5x7=35 talas)

[@lethiapage4767]

I have never heard polka and punk lumped together but 🤯 there you go. And you have described 2-2 in a way that makes more sense than I ever understood. It always seemed unnecessary due to 4-4 so I always kinda stumbled over it.

[@lethiapage4767]

The similar construction of punk and polka songs explains how they can be melted so perfectly for bands like flogging molly and pixies. In fact there are a lot of Irish bands like that and it's all quite fascinating...they start out respectable enough and then you get a little booze in them (another common thread of both genres) and the shift takes place. I will leave it for each person to decide which is which 🍀😂💚😂💚😂🍀

[@therev2012]

Loved that “Hollywoo stars and celebrities what do they know? Do they know things? Let’s find out“ intro

[@Aristotelezz]

I'm a guitar player with mediocre understanding of time signatures. I've added this video to my favorites because it gave me more insight.

[@tman2953]

I’ve been playing the trap for ~ 15 years. Odd time signatures have always tripped me up. You explained them and demonstrated them with such ease and common sense, it made me feel stupid for not fully understanding. I am grateful that you made me feel stupid! Thanks, Cobb!

[@1missing]

The most common 5/4 that practically everybody is familiar with is the Mission Impossible theme song

[@seanc8003]

Cool! A visiting drum teacher to our college percussion class had us stand in a semicircle whilst stomping the melody first with one foot and then clapping the beat over it with both hands. It took a while to get it right but felt great.

[@nominalegg5865]

Of course we’re talking the original Lalo Shiffrin theme, not the tom cruise abortion.

[@veronicalane1458]

Also Limp Bizkit’s Version!!

[@Billkwando]

@@nominalegg5865 Tom did it all for the nookie.

[@joshsny143]

Or the Halloween movie theme song

[@robiandolo]

I’ve been drumming since I was 13, OMG 50 years. But I’ve been a guitarist for the past 30. I always struggled with odd time signatures. This was pretty cool. Good job!

[@drewbocop]

Not sure if him saying "subdivided" directly after talking about Rush was a coincidence or intentional...

[@smokeythebear99]

I can't believe there was no voice modulation in post production haha I would've died.

[@TheGldnboy416416]

I could have used you as a teacher when I was trying to learn Jazz ,Fusion, and Prog Rock as a teen. My teachers tried, and wrote scores to early Genesis, King Krimson, Buddy Rich, Al Di Meola, Dave Weckl, Steve Gadd etc... although I was classically trained, I mostly learned by ear, no matter how hard I trained to read drum charts. I wanted to be a studio drummer. Even when I did eventually get those studio gigs, I had drum chart anxiety. If my teachers had taught me like you do, I likely would have felt more confident. I mostly memorized the song by hearing them play it, and faked it. It took my childhood piano teacher three years to realize I was playing by ear. That was a great lesson. ThanX

[@richardsanchez5444]

You know what i find crazy? Is that we went from living in caves and just worrying about eating n staying alive to having things like time signatures. Who the hell even thought to do this, its like they pulled it out if thin air.

[@greatwavefan397]

13/16 was the most confusing, and I love it.

[@coltonbrown753]

Would you count this as 1&a2&a3&a4e&a

[@Brawler_1337]

One of the easiest way to think of 13/16 is the Terminator theme.

[@chicoscience502]

just realized your profile picture is the same image on his wall

[@Scrinwaipwr]

Love the Mr Peanutbutter (Bojack Horseman) reference, very good show.

[@La_Win69]

This radiates early 2010’s and i love it

[@MYSTIC5925]

10:40 bruh that seems so difficult

[@FrostedJr]

This is a flex to show you don't need to have amazing equipment to be an incredible drummer.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

This dude makes the set sound good. I probably couldn't.

[@matthewstephens6848]

Shall I do all the important things I need for my business that are backed up and growing? No. I'll sit here watching a kid I've never heard of in a wizard hat going on about time signatures. And I don't even play drums. Cheers brain. This is another fine mess you got me into.

[@cartifan0013]

as someone who isn’t a drummer i’d like to say that your drumset sounds extra cool

[@3rdshiftphilosopher232]

"Your a drummer Harry" said hagrid

[@GrupoExterminadorOficial]

I'm a what?

[@willhaul5581]

LOL I was waiting for somebody in the comments to reference that hat LOL.

[@ijemand5672]

you're*

[@willhaul5581]

@@ijemand5672 really dude you got nothing better to do than go through people's comments and correct their spelling. I guess that makes you a spelling Nazi. What a sad existence that is for you. SMH I guess I wouldn't expect anything less from somebody with your tag name.

[@jontraz5993]

@@willhaul5581 you're* tag name Jk bro lmao

[@italiangypsy79]

Another 5/4 beat that a lot of people know is the theme to Halloween. John Carpenter's dad taught him the 5/4 beat and that gave birth to arguably one of the most iconic horror and movie theme songs ever.

[@therealcaldini]

“I was stabbed by a knife bought - with a 10% discount - from Highlander”

[@prsee5969]

Dude it’s 2024 right now… I grew up up with just musicians (I’m a gun guy, I can only play the pump action lol) and it’s rare someone catches my attention when it comes to music. Some of my friends are world class… and regardless, you really got me to watch your entire video somehow… I love how you explain things. You make it very interesting.

[@mattbecker86]

I’m not even a drummer and I couldn’t help but watch the whole thing

[@notanonymousperson]

how is this video not made in 2011

[@ShiftingDrifter]

Nice job... I came across some extraordinary 5/4 and 9/8 rhythms while traveling in Turkey listening to their "Halk" style folk music. It originated centuries ago using traditional Tupan and Darbuka drums, but the introduction of modern trap set gear - the complexity is phenomenal to hear in live bands now. I found it jaw dropping. Where modern western tunes commonly (though not always) place odd signatures in just portions of a song to make for interesting transitions, these Persian/Turkish rooted variations build the entire song of odd timing and it's just mind blowing.

[@BloodMoonASMR]

It is used throughout The Balkans too.

[@malcolmthompson597]

I prefer to call one of those Turkish time signatures, 4 and a half/4. Because it’s like a bar of 4/4 then a little stutter half beat, then 4/4 , half beat etc. But over 2 bars it is 9/8. But if you count 9, the second half of the count occurs on the up beat, but the music is on the down beat! And when the audience clap along it’s like “1, 2, 3, 4 huh, 1, 2, 3, 4 huh, ……”

[@JonathanPMartin]

Thanks. You just help me solve an issue with a drum machine that I've been struggling with for 2 weeks! It's 6/8. Thanks.

[@andygotting9152]

This guy is a bonafide genius, I on the other struggle with the triangle.

[@DrStrangeBrew]

Ed Grimley was an important part of every band he was in.

[@NotQuiteFirst]

Naturally you will struggle with the triangle or the drums if you are missing a hand.

[@DrStrangeBrew]

@@NotQuiteFirst tip of the hat 🎩👌

[@andygotting9152]

@@NotQuiteFirst tell Rick Allen the Def Leppard drummer that !

[@benjaminwatt2436]

This helps so much. i've always had the hardest time with rhythm. i can't seem to hear it, unless i pay a lot of attention. and i never understood time signature. thanks man

[@kailanmanandic3778]

This was awesome! I don't drum but I've been teaching myself more about music and I haven't had a clear demonstration of time signatures-thanks for this:)

[@cobb_thedrummer]

Glad I could help!

[@Tribleman247]

I didn't expect the Bojack reference in the first 5 seconds 😂

[@ROCKNROLLMODS]

Good stuff! I Often ponder how 4/4 is most common. I write almost exclusively in 4/4 time, but have noticed that some musicians are more comfortable writing in 3/4. I have no problems playing in most time signatures (provided it sounds musical) but to write it's usually 4/4

[@papascabs2767]

I like playing 3s because...not sure if this makes sense... it gives more options as you can start 1 count on a bass or snare.

[@amstreater]

I saw on another video that it’s not called common time because it’s used most frequently but because it’s something from the Renaissance, where the notation used different symbols, of which one looked like a C. The video was time signatures part 1 by musictheoryguy

[@ROCKNROLLMODS]

@Papa Scabs I'm not a drummer, but I do occasionally pick up the Stix when I'm feeling like a sequenced drum track just won't do. But I recorded a drum track that was 4/4, that I played the snare for the downbeat. Twas my moment as a drummer. Sounded amazing (to me) several (good) drummers since, have wanted to play the song. But not one conventional drummer since has been able to wrap their heads around this particular beat. They play beats for the part (technically better, I'm sure), but I need that beat that leads with the snare. And I can not (maybe refuse to) play it with a conventional 4/4 beat

[@Andresdha]

Bruh I feel like I want to be this dude's friend

[@SoaringEagle1]

yeps....peeps are gonna look at me funny from now on walkin' in step to his beats through the supermarket......whoo wah.

[@daisiesofdoom]

I want this dude in my band.

[@jamisonandrewmanhorvaththe1124]

ok

[@DeirdreSM]

To me, 6/8 is more a feel of 2 sets of 3 and 12/8 is more 4 sets of 3. The piece that I think demonstrates the feel of 12/8 really well is the third movement of Bach's 3rd Brandenburg concerto, especially Wendy Carlos's recording from Switched-On Bach. It switches between feel of three and feel of four, sometimes simultaneously in different melodic lines. To be clear, the three-patterns and four-patterns are always present, just differently emphasized.

[@atharvashidhore871]

THE INTRO IS SOO GOOD LESSGOOOO HOPE THERAPY IS HELPING AFTER THAT SHOW

[@alexmurphy5289]

RIP to John and Neil, crushed it dude