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Death and Rebirth - The Irish Easter Rising - Part 5 - Extra History

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Жыл бұрын

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In the aftermath of the Irish uprising, the British vowed to punish the rebels with impunity. Ireland now under martial law saw that the nationalists were tried with no legal counsel or defense. Putting many to death by firing squads over the next five days and leaving the people of Ireland confused, upset, and ready for change.
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@extrahistory
@extrahistory Жыл бұрын
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@thutch7622
@thutch7622 Жыл бұрын
Is the title an Evangelion reference?
@Pickle_guy15
@Pickle_guy15 Жыл бұрын
Sup dude
@vintheguy
@vintheguy Жыл бұрын
@@thutch7622 go outside
@RemiUllmann
@RemiUllmann Жыл бұрын
Ireland's civil war lasted until 1990 when The Good Friday Peace acord's were signed into law to end the uprising and the political and civil unrest which lasted for decades known as the Troubles so Irelands Civil War didn't in 1918.
@Mr.Beauregarde
@Mr.Beauregarde Жыл бұрын
8:03 do you mean 'regulated'? Or did i misheard you say 'relegated'
@oobrien9105
@oobrien9105 Жыл бұрын
Joseph Plunkett got married just before his execution which was one of the biggest things that turned anger against the British.
@margaretcarter6483
@margaretcarter6483 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was disappointed that he and Grace weren't mentioned. Also Countess M's indignation at being spared the death penalty because of her gender.
@jamesboyle6134
@jamesboyle6134 Жыл бұрын
Oh Grace Just hold me in your arms And let this moment linger; They'll take me out at dawn And I will die.
@WidgetDaStoat
@WidgetDaStoat Жыл бұрын
Hmmm… name seems awfully familiar…
@laurakastrup
@laurakastrup Жыл бұрын
He was married while IN jail, meaning that by all accounts it seemed like he was allowed to go home, why else would you allow him to marry?
@King_Cova
@King_Cova Жыл бұрын
@@margaretcarter6483 Think the biggest failure of the Brits was no killing off Eamon. He was worse than the Brits for this country. Literally.
@wynty200
@wynty200 Жыл бұрын
The Civil War is fairly badly misrepresented here. It wasn’t fought between republicans and nationalists who wanted to remain part of the British empire, it was fought between republicans who were in favour of the Anglo-Irish treaty, and republicans who were against it. The Anglo-Irish treaty created the Irish Free State as a British dominion, like Australia and Canada, as part of the British empire, with the Monarch as head of state. It also partitioned the island between the Free State and Northern Ireland. Many republicans thought this wasn’t what they had fought for and were massively against the treaty as a result. Other republicans accepted that, although not ideal, an all-Ireland republic was never actually on the table and the treaty was the best they could hope for, but it could at least be used as a stepping stone towards full independence. This lead to an internal split within the IRA between pro-treaty and anti-treaty factions, which eventually led to civil war. Very few, if any, people on any side wanted to remain part of the British Empire, it was simply about making the most of what was available to them. It was idealism versus pragmatism.
@graceohanrahan2865
@graceohanrahan2865 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that part was really 'I mean you're technically correct but you're very wrong'
@wynty200
@wynty200 Жыл бұрын
@@graceohanrahan2865 I get the impression they tried to use it to emphasise the ‘revolutions and civil wars are very nuanced’ angle, but the reality of the civil war is already incredibly nuanced and contradictory, so I don’t see why you’d need to reframe it to get the same effect. It was a good series overall, but this just felt like an odd decision.
@Last555555555
@Last555555555 Жыл бұрын
what you said and what the video said are the same thing. The Anglo-Irish treaty would've kept Ireland as a dominion of the British Empire while opposing it meant complete separation.
@wynty200
@wynty200 Жыл бұрын
@@Last555555555 The point is that the pro-treaty side in the civil war were not actively fighting to keep Ireland in the British Empire, they were fighting because they realised the treaty was the best they were going to get. They wanted full independence as much as anyone else, but in their minds, if an all-Ireland republic was off the table, any form of independence was good in the short term.
@Last555555555
@Last555555555 Жыл бұрын
@@wynty200 The Pro-Treaty forces were fighting to make Ireland a dominion of the UK. Whether they intended it or not, they were fighting to keep Ireland in the British Empire. And they were wrong about whether they could get full independence or not because Britain would not have had the ability to force Ireland to remain if the Irish people didn't want to
@kaned5543
@kaned5543 Жыл бұрын
The origins of revolutions are always so fascinating to me. It's amazing that tyrannical powers today don't seem to understand that this kind of brutal crackdown just spurs further rebellion eventually. Watching the movement rising in Iran right now in comparison is compelling.
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 Жыл бұрын
Tyrants act like Homer Simpson: "Why does everything I whip leaves me?"
@krystofk.2279
@krystofk.2279 Жыл бұрын
well there was a protest in Iran after current regime got to power. Why was there no major protest or rebelion in the last 30 years or so you may ask. Well search Iran's 1988 mass executions. I don't feel comfortable writing about it myself. Though it shows how well you can put down the fire of revolution with help of force. It happend many more times in the history. For example Tiananmen square massacre, decembrist revolt, Arab spring in Egypt and many many more, so yeah don't ever underestimate political violence. That said I wish only the best for the Irani people.
@kaned5543
@kaned5543 Жыл бұрын
@@krystofk.2279 Oh, I don't disagree - that's why I specified "eventually". I mean, the Irish suffered terrible atrocities under the British for centuries.
@roneyandrade6287
@roneyandrade6287 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes those government last longer that the live of the leaders. That's probably the immediate goal and assumption of those in power.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
You say that, but often tyrants using brutal repression does work like 99% of the time. The few exceptions are just that; exceptions.
@danielnoriega5200
@danielnoriega5200 Жыл бұрын
Roger Casement really deserves his own series or at least an episode
@Nolaris3
@Nolaris3 Жыл бұрын
Yes! He was instrumental in exposing King Leopold II and the atrocities in the Congo Free State
@johnmackenreillytag
@johnmackenreillytag Жыл бұрын
He was a bit of a legend.
@alexandersturnn4530
@alexandersturnn4530 Жыл бұрын
"And back through the glen, I rode again, And my heart with grief was sore. For I parted then with valiant men, Whom I'll never see no more. But to and fro in my dreams I go, And I kneel and pray for you, For slavery fled, O glorious dead, When you fell in the foggy dew..."
@headshot2724
@headshot2724 Жыл бұрын
I love this song
@mflynn1489
@mflynn1489 Жыл бұрын
I remembered this song as well. That second to last line in particular when he showed the execution of Padraig Pearse
@chainsawgood123
@chainsawgood123 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame you didn't touch on how Ireland became split between north and south, since that's one of the most relevant parts of this whole ordeal in the modern day.
@MiseFreisin
@MiseFreisin Жыл бұрын
it's a much bigger topic than could be covered in a series centred on the Rising. I'd even argue that calling it "north and south" is viewed as problematic by a lot of people, and that speaks to the difficulty in discussing it in brief rather than giving Partition its own series
@idkperson8731
@idkperson8731 Жыл бұрын
If they’re gonna touch on Northern Ireland the It would need to be its own series
@kettleworks
@kettleworks Жыл бұрын
While I get the suggestion, that topic goes well beyond the Easter Rising, into not just the War of Independence, but also the subsequent Irish Civil War
@shaneleskinen2111
@shaneleskinen2111 Жыл бұрын
Fact a part of Ireland turned traitor and went with there conquering kings and queens I mean how does a whole country get Stockholm syndrome.
@gordonstewart5774
@gordonstewart5774 Жыл бұрын
Then he would have to mention religion more.
@17Watman
@17Watman Жыл бұрын
“Come let us hear you tell How you slandered great Parnell When you thought him well and truly persecuted Where are the sneers and jeers That you loudly let us hear When our leaders of sixteen were executed”
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 Жыл бұрын
British authorities: "We did it, we defeated the rebels!" More and more irish people start showing sympaty for the rebels, and a bigger fight starts two years later, resulting in Ireland independence. British authorities: "Oh, C'mon!"
@vivvvkittf6458
@vivvvkittf6458 Жыл бұрын
God bless the Irish rebels, they fought for the people's freedom.
@robertsears8323
@robertsears8323 Жыл бұрын
It was a sad outcome for everyone. What is worse is that the rebelling was so very pointless and Ireland was better off as part of England. And I am Irish and even I never stood with the evil terrorist trying to go against there government.
@Robert-ku6jx
@Robert-ku6jx Жыл бұрын
I majored in Irish history in college, with a focus on the revolutionary period. My favorite part of that entire period is how the British screwed themselves here. The rebels practically walked into their cells as villains, back out again to the prison ships as heroes, and that was the beginning of the end of British rule in (most of) Ireland. If the British had just gotten the executions over and done with in a day, or sent the leaders to kick rocks in Australia, we may never have heard from them again.
@owenthemousey2268
@owenthemousey2268 Жыл бұрын
so funny! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@King_Cova
@King_Cova Жыл бұрын
Two years? So 1916 to 1919 is 2 years to you? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 No that is three years If they didn't humiliate the leaders and executed then people would have never rose up in revolt.
@charlesdeleo4608
@charlesdeleo4608 Жыл бұрын
1:42 - I'm sorry, but as soon as I heard "General Charles Blackader", I have this sudden urge to start humming the Blackadder Theme song.
@DraftTheHippies
@DraftTheHippies Жыл бұрын
“When you fell in the Foggy Dew”
@butterlord-nq3ei
@butterlord-nq3ei Жыл бұрын
Such a good song
@user-vw6qr1hu1o
@user-vw6qr1hu1o Жыл бұрын
General Blackadder? A relative of a certain captain serving in the Western Front perhaps?
@fakeskyler2305
@fakeskyler2305 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps this was all part of a cunning plan?
@samdumaquis2033
@samdumaquis2033 Жыл бұрын
@@fakeskyler2305 wonder if his aide-de-camps was called Baldrick ?
@APersonOnYouTubeX
@APersonOnYouTubeX Жыл бұрын
The late captain blackadder?
@user-vw6qr1hu1o
@user-vw6qr1hu1o Жыл бұрын
@@APersonOnKZbinX by the time of the Easter Rising he wasn't
@thechief00
@thechief00 Жыл бұрын
perhaps so, darling
@js500y9
@js500y9 Жыл бұрын
It feels like an almost criminal over simplification to paint the pro-treaty side of the Civil War as wanting to stay within the British empire. It wasn’t that they wanted to stay, it’s just they felt that taking the British peace deal was the first stepping stone to total independence, where as the anti treaty side saw any compromise as acquiescence
@timesnewlogan2032
@timesnewlogan2032 Жыл бұрын
“The freedom to gain their freedom”, as Collins put it. In the end, he was right.
@Gillemear
@Gillemear Жыл бұрын
I teach adults English here is Dublin, as well as being a primary (elementary) school teacher. I have a great love and passion for history, especially that of my homeland. You guys have done an amazing job with the Easter Rising, am very impressed and will be happily using your videos to teach my classes. But above all else, your last thoughts echo that which I regularly say to my junior and adult students- in Irish history, we Irish are our own worst enemies! Here's hoping you someday cover the 1798 rebellion, the Irish War of Independence, the Irish Civil War and, if you have the stomach for a massively divisive issue, the Troubles! Keep up the fantastic work. Éirí an bothar leat! (May the road rise to meet you- an Irish blessing of future success!)
@catfootball592
@catfootball592 Жыл бұрын
No surrender!!!
@beatles123
@beatles123 Жыл бұрын
The irish are not your enemies. Imperialism and capitalism are.
@Gillemear
@Gillemear Жыл бұрын
@MattOnWheels Well we don't do ourselves any favours allowing differences in two sects of the same religion define us, as we did in the past and continue to do in Northern Ireland. I get your point though, pure simple human greed had not helped either.
@Gillemear
@Gillemear Жыл бұрын
@Catfootball Surrender of what? What exactly are we surrendering? I mean we have been independent for 100 years now and the mess of Northern Ireland is really to do with two identities just not getting along but both have been there since the early 1500s. The British government would happily pull out of NI if it could. So, I really don't get your statement!
@GeorgeP1066
@GeorgeP1066 Жыл бұрын
One important footnote: When Connolly was executed he was already dying from the wounds he'd received during the uprising (his doctors only gave him a couple more days to live) and wasn't even able to stand. So instead they tied him to a chair and shot him. This really is just the perfect encapsulation of just how counter-productive the executions were. If they'd waited a week he'd have died in his cell and hardly been remembered. Instead they shot an already dying man sat in a *chair* on the last day of the extremely unpopular executions, and in the process made him a martyr so famous he features in nationalist songs like The Patriot's Game. Way to go lads, no way that kind of thing isn't going to come back to bite you.
@todaysbreadtodaymfers3861
@todaysbreadtodaymfers3861 Жыл бұрын
Framing the civil war as between republicans and those who wanted to stay in the empire isn't quite the whole story. It was between those who wanted to make peace with the Anglo-Irish Treaty and those who wanted to keep fighting for a full republic. Pro-treaty forces had the majority support and there wasn't really much fight left in the IRA by that time. Not many people actually wanted to be a Dominion and give up the 6 counties but the Treaty was a compromise, which I think is worth a mention. This has been a great series though ❤️ It's great to see people abroad learning about our history, especially after 6 years of seeing how misinformed some people are...
@louthegiantcookie
@louthegiantcookie Жыл бұрын
Is it true that Irish and British governments of the time both perceived the treaty as a temporary measure and that it was always felt that reunification would happen eventually?
@wynty200
@wynty200 Жыл бұрын
@@louthegiantcookie Partition was seen by both sides as a temporary measure, not a permanent one.
@euanduthie2333
@euanduthie2333 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. This was what I was coming here to post. The Pro-treaty side in the civil war wasn't pro-Dominion, it was in favour of accepting as much independence as they had been able to get at the negotiating table. I'd get more into the insanity of giving the negotiators the authority to strike a deal, then stabbing them in the back and campaigning against the deal, but this post would just turn into an anti-Dev rant.
@wheelz8240
@wheelz8240 Жыл бұрын
Not all Americans are ignorant.... Erin go Bragh
@paulisaperson0516
@paulisaperson0516 Жыл бұрын
I will always respect Joe Hill and his badass move to order his own firing squad to fire, interrupting the executioner
@FakeBlocks
@FakeBlocks Жыл бұрын
Do the Greek revolutionary war of 1821 against the ottoman empire next please I have been asking for this since the sengoku jidai series!
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 ай бұрын
The wackiest thing is having English poet Byron joining in as a volunteer, financing a unit of Albanians, and dying there because stupid doctors bled him with dirty instruments.
@graceohanrahan2865
@graceohanrahan2865 Жыл бұрын
Surprised that neither Michael Collins nor Eamonn de Valera were mentioned here. I mean I get that this was the final episode, so they weren't going to introduce any new 'characters' but considering they touched on the war for independence and the civil war, it's odd that neither got a mention
@mr.creepy4435
@mr.creepy4435 9 ай бұрын
The fact that blackadder is a real person baffles me
@adamaitouahmane6519
@adamaitouahmane6519 Жыл бұрын
I hope that Extra Credits can one day make a series on the Troubles
@ianmoore3470
@ianmoore3470 Жыл бұрын
“Oh grace just hold me in your arms and let this moment linger” The sixteen were heroes, TIocfaidh Ar La
@phantom8906
@phantom8906 Жыл бұрын
Feel like Michael Collins should've been mentioned way more in this
@chemp231
@chemp231 Жыл бұрын
I feel there were a lot of missed chances here. As you mentioned Michael Collins should have prob been brought up a bit more, while he was relatively small fish for this is where he found his footing. They also seem to have gone for british veiwed or "bias" history at points. (Not saying they are bias, it happens sometimes doesn't make them bias.) A great example of this is them mentioning the idea of taking the castle, this wasn't really an idea in the irish ranks or active leadership. It was a stalling tactic not a capture the castle. It was deemed the castle 100 years back would be important to hold, but in the 1900s it was decided the post office with its better location for runners was a better location to focus. It was a political war, a hope it'd turn into a full blown rebellion was there ofc, but they never let it cloud the reality that for hundreds of years they never managed a large scale revolution and it likely wouldn't start suddenly in the early 1900s.
@adrianainespena5654
@adrianainespena5654 Жыл бұрын
Michael Collins came later. And they also did not mention de Valera, for the same reason.
@thefishoftruth235
@thefishoftruth235 Жыл бұрын
He played a fairly minor role in the rising his claim to fame is much more so the war of independence
@phantom8906
@phantom8906 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianainespena5654 he was in it
@charapresscott7750
@charapresscott7750 11 ай бұрын
​@@adrianainespena5654Both DeValera and Collins were in the Rising. I can't remember why Collins wasn't executed, but DeValera wasn't executed because he was American
@techumanity240
@techumanity240 Жыл бұрын
Long time viewer, and I certainly appreciate your content. Please do a series on the Molly Maguires who sabotaged mines in the coalfields of Pennsylvania. Very good story.
@x0101234x
@x0101234x Жыл бұрын
Roger Casement: also one of the people most involved with raising the public outcry against King Leopold's "Congo Free State". Which man is that a topic that needs to be covered more. What set Casement apart from a lot of the others was that he was under no illusions that the British were much better.
@FantasticIrishFox
@FantasticIrishFox Жыл бұрын
It feels wrong to say the Civil War was because some wanted to stay in the British Empire. No Nationalist wanted to be part of it, they simply felt that the peace terms the British government gave them was the best they could get.
@ferguscollins7641
@ferguscollins7641 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying it!!!! It did frustrate me him saying it but couldn’t put it in the right words
@FantasticIrishFox
@FantasticIrishFox Жыл бұрын
@@ferguscollins7641 Especially since they could have easily explained it in 30 seconds. I'm kinda stunned that they'd put that in since its just wrong, feels like they didn't bother researching it at all.
@hanzup4117
@hanzup4117 Жыл бұрын
You guys should make resources for schools. I would've been a lot more engaged in history class if we were using books by Extra Credits :)
@agustincorales4786
@agustincorales4786 Жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@Merennulli
@Merennulli Жыл бұрын
A lot of the success is that it's in a medium that isn't a book. All their information comes from existing books they research, but it's research that's difficult for the average person that they're condensing into short form videos that can be watched passively. Schools do make use of these videos, by the way. I know of some history teachers who play these in class as supplementary information.
@patrickbasal8433
@patrickbasal8433 Жыл бұрын
Orangemen just felt a disturbance in the force
@ThatFreakingGinger
@ThatFreakingGinger Жыл бұрын
Please do the Troubles in NI, it's always either ignored or made to seem insignificant. You guys would do an excellent job at teaching it. Loved the video, love from NI
@darreljones8645
@darreljones8645 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see that, this time at least, the number of volumes in the opening shot was the same as the number of parts in this story, as it should always be.
@baldbread3693
@baldbread3693 Жыл бұрын
A tiny bit of an over simplification about the civil war there. At the end of the war of independence, Irish representatives including Michael Collins went and worked out a treaty to end the violence. This would leave ireland as a "Free State" but still in the commonwealth and with the king as the monarch and would divide the north from the south as it is today. The pro treaty side saw the treaty as a stepping stone to full independence while the anti treaty wanted full independence then and there. and so fighting broke out with the pro treaty side winning in no small part thanks to british help and a lack of support for the Anti treaty side among the public. The Pro-treaty side weren't really in favour of british rule at all, they just saw the treaty as an easier and less bloody way to achieve full independence which they did do in 1937. The North south split endured tho, and that is why it is still split today.
@louthegiantcookie
@louthegiantcookie Жыл бұрын
The Rising was put down, but still kind of succeeded? It's so interesting to me how they essentially succeeded through failure. It's like the dictionary definition of a Pyrrhic victory for the British government - but not surprising that they would make such a blunder when one considers how my country had treated the Irish for centuries before the revolution.
@georgebagnall1160
@georgebagnall1160 Жыл бұрын
A terrible beauty is born
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 ай бұрын
British are kind of masters of glorifying losses themselves, the most famous battle they took part in is charge of the Light Brigade, I guess heroic sacrifices are far more motivating than steamrolling, Greeks have their Thermopylae, Americans - Alamo, and we got Kruty.
@ferguscollins7641
@ferguscollins7641 Жыл бұрын
You make it sound like those in support of the Irish free state wanted it to be a Irish free state which isn’t the case as micheal Collins famously said this is a stepping stone to Irish independence. Micheal Collins just knew they wouldn’t be able to hold out against the strongest army in the world much longer
@ferguscollins7641
@ferguscollins7641 Жыл бұрын
By the way love your videos hate to be negative as you make amazing content but it’s something that I’m quite passionate about as this is what caused the whole civil war
@benjauron5873
@benjauron5873 Жыл бұрын
The thing that always strikes me about Irish folk songs about the various Irish rebellions, whether it's a song about Wolfe Tone or Michael Collins or Bobby Sands or whomever, is how much they sing about "traitors," and how "traitors" deserve no mercy. You know they wouldn't mention "traitors" so much if every Irish rebellion didn't feature a hell of a lot of traitors!
@catfootball592
@catfootball592 Жыл бұрын
They were traitors to the people of Ulster. At the time their sons were going over the top at the Somme.
@jota357
@jota357 Жыл бұрын
This was a wonderful series. Not praising nor demonizing either side of the conflict. You guys clearly don't struggle dealing with controversial historical topics. Did you ever consider doing a series on the Yugoslav resistance in WW2? The fight between the 2 main resistance movements against the invaders and each other would make a great topic.
@ASpaceOstrich
@ASpaceOstrich Жыл бұрын
That last point about the captain who executed six civilians was a powerful one. Revolution in particular tends to bring out the worst in peoples biases.
@nullset560
@nullset560 Жыл бұрын
This was a really weird series, very short episodes that covered a lot of events but actually very little detail. This episode especially covered way too broad a time-frame.
@d.m.conroy6717
@d.m.conroy6717 Жыл бұрын
the CC is terrific!
@Amedecorsaire
@Amedecorsaire Жыл бұрын
Could we get a series about Anne de Bretagne, Corsica with pascal paoli, the basque uprisings or the Samis? Not to disminish the Irish in any way(big love to my celtic brothers) but their story is very well known by now while other European minorities such as the bretons, basques, corsicans and Sami have rich stories and cultures ignored
@weber1106
@weber1106 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that you guys did a series on one of my countries most important Historical events! Thanks so much!
@vittoriolepporio122
@vittoriolepporio122 Жыл бұрын
But to and fro in my dreams I go, And I kneel and pray for you, For slavery fled, O glorious dead, When you fell in the foggy dew
@swordsnspearguy5945
@swordsnspearguy5945 Жыл бұрын
And back through the glen, I rode again And my heart with grief was sore For I parted then with valiant men Whom I never shall see n'more But to and fro in my dreams I go And I kneel and pray for you For slavery fled, O glorious dead When you fell in the foggy dew
@Glutoncito
@Glutoncito Жыл бұрын
could you'll do a series on the Basque fight against the Spanish
@CodaMission
@CodaMission Жыл бұрын
I know this isn't supposed to be funny, but I hereby petition Rowan Atkinson to play General Charles Blackadder
@chrisforsyth8323
@chrisforsyth8323 Жыл бұрын
Are we ready for a Grimdark Blackadder, though?
@CodaMission
@CodaMission Жыл бұрын
@@chrisforsyth8323 Who else could make something so horribly depressing into something hilariously funny?
@ecurewitz
@ecurewitz Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@Merennulli
@Merennulli Жыл бұрын
@@chrisforsyth8323 I mean... the last episode kinda went there.
@jman5949
@jman5949 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisforsyth8323 That would be Ciaphas Cain, Hero of the Imperium.
@saigodes
@saigodes Жыл бұрын
I loved this series guys. As always great job. Can't wait for the lies episode.
@vul6174
@vul6174 Жыл бұрын
Really loving the series so far, one thing I perticulary enjoy which I often don't encounter when this topic is discuss is how unbiased the video is. The british did horrible acts during and before the Irish rebeled AND the fact that the irish unjustly killed more civilians then british military during the uprising. A horrible situation and both sides had there parts to play in it. Can't wait for the next episode keep up the hard more x
@briannamcdaniel266
@briannamcdaniel266 Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!
@arcticpossi_schw1siantuntija42
@arcticpossi_schw1siantuntija42 Жыл бұрын
Very nice, beautiful conclusion episode. 😊👍
@jeremy1860
@jeremy1860 Жыл бұрын
It's a frequent rule in history that, if people want to rebel, someone on the leader side of things is doing something wrong. And it's heart-breaking that so many of those leaders just use those rebellions as an excuse to be even worse than they were before 😟
@numba1jared
@numba1jared Жыл бұрын
I forgot where I heard this, but I remember a quote that goes something like: "It's better for the revolutionary to not survive their revolution." Basically that revolutionary leaders usually don't make good leaders of government.
@johnkeefer8760
@johnkeefer8760 Жыл бұрын
I think 2 ideas that complicate the picture: 1. Occupied/conquered countries like Ireland or Poland may not want outside influence vs domestic governments like Iran today. 2. What do you do with the US Civil War? Confederacy rebelled for slavery but slavery was wrong and needed to to away. Was the leader’s problem that they didn’t go through the process right?
@SWProductions100
@SWProductions100 Жыл бұрын
@@johnkeefer8760 From what little I gather of the US Civil War, the South were in their rights to withdraw and the North didn't let them. However, if the North didn't intervene, then the harm of slavery would have continued (somewhat muting the moral legitimacy of the South's legal arguement).
@erraticonteuse
@erraticonteuse Жыл бұрын
@@SWProductions100 The South was not within their rights to secede. They threw a tantrum after a legitimate election didn't go their way. No state has the right to unilaterally secede from the Union under any circumstances.
@SWProductions100
@SWProductions100 Жыл бұрын
@@erraticonteuse Well, as said, my knowledge is admittedly little.
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
I find it sad how the Irish soldiers who fought for the Allies during WW1 were looked down upon by their own countrymen back home after the war ended. Imagine going through 4 years of brutal trench warfare only to return to a resentful homeland because they happened to fight alongside British forces
@paragguruji3223
@paragguruji3223 Жыл бұрын
Did they “happen to” fight alongside the British or did they “choose to”?
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 Жыл бұрын
@@paragguruji3223 I'd imagine many of them chose to since all British troops were volunteers from 1914 to 1916
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 ай бұрын
​@@paragguruji3223 then it's different to us because despite so many forced to fight on Soviet side, nobody really had a choice, just mass draft and my mum's generation didn't have grandfathers alive.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy hearing about these brave acts of resistance. Then feel sad when they end up being brutally suppressed like this. Men and Women who stood for something greater in the face of overwhelming odds where fewer would never dare. They tend to be the most impactful. In the case of the Easter Rising, these fallen Irish nationalists created martyrs for what was to come next
@nopizzanohappy4612
@nopizzanohappy4612 Жыл бұрын
This just had to pop up as I'm in a phase of watching Irish history.
@penitent2401
@penitent2401 Жыл бұрын
wait, General Blackadder, so the captain survived the trenches in WW1 and got promoted to general?
@cyborgpenguin1227
@cyborgpenguin1227 Жыл бұрын
I know this series is focusing on the Easter rising but I feel that the summery of the Irish Civil War was a bit of an over simplification, it was less a war over wanting to stay in the British empire vs full independence and more about accepting the treaty that had been negotiated after the war of independence, the pro treaty side were essentially tired of fighting and knew if they continued fighting the British they'd lose while the nationalists wanted Ireland to gain full independence, I loved this series btw great job
@userthomash
@userthomash Жыл бұрын
After the storm of the cival war was over it rised again in small campaigns then a long war and one that still persists to this day
@sarven5974
@sarven5974 Жыл бұрын
Another amazing series with the classic artstyle
@jimmyryan5880
@jimmyryan5880 Жыл бұрын
Huge Mistake!! Great series so far but you say one faction wanted to remain part of the empire. That is offensivly wrong. One side was willing to be pragmatic and accept a treaty temporarily that meant being part of the empire to get "the freedom to attain freedom". They wanted independence too, they were just willing to take a 80% victory immediately and regroup for a full victory later while the anti treaty side demanded immediate victory. It's like saying che guevara was a hard core capitalist because Castro went a little further.
@mebrychi6504
@mebrychi6504 2 ай бұрын
Sure champ whatever you say
@kennyroberts9687
@kennyroberts9687 Жыл бұрын
Back to the glen I rode again and my heart with grief was sore. For I parted with those valiant men whom I never would see no more. And to and fro in my dreams I will go And I'd kneel and I'd pray for you, For slavery fled, O glorious dead, When you fell in the foggy dew.
@bentoth9555
@bentoth9555 Жыл бұрын
"Charles Blackadder...." What about Baldrick?
@celticknight221
@celticknight221 5 ай бұрын
Always wanted to know how the conflict started and ended. Thanks for the lesson!!
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro Жыл бұрын
great series would love to get another in the future about the war of independence itself and civil war after if possible
@ComPewPer
@ComPewPer Жыл бұрын
love the detailed backgrounds
@naokidarlan5406
@naokidarlan5406 Жыл бұрын
Plz make a video of the Battle das Toninhas
@TerenceClark
@TerenceClark Жыл бұрын
The history of Ireland's move toward independence over the past 200 years is just one self-inflicted public relations screw up after another by the UK. Worse than that, yes, by a long shot. But it seemed every time the Irish Nationalists rose up, the people were luke warm to opposed until London practically pushed them into supporting it.
@Ryu_D
@Ryu_D Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@mastertrams
@mastertrams 6 ай бұрын
All I knew about the Easter Rising prior to watching this series were the 15 names that have been given to Irish Railway stations since, so it's nice to hear what actually happened.
@thethirdjegs
@thethirdjegs Жыл бұрын
Do we have to be patreon members to be able to suggest the next topic? I would love a two-series on philippine revolutionary wars: 1. The one eclipsed by cuban revolution, Philippine Revolution 1896-1898. 2. The misnamed war between countries, Philippine Insurgency (philippine-americam war) 1899-1913
@leguichettravel1599
@leguichettravel1599 Жыл бұрын
That's how its gonna be mate bc I lived there in my homeland.
@michawozniak5955
@michawozniak5955 Жыл бұрын
Dafaq is 6:15 supposed to be? XD Also, saying that pro-Treaty IRA WANTED to remain a part of the British Empire is A GROSS overstatement.
@rafayabdul5671
@rafayabdul5671 Жыл бұрын
"The Irish free state'' I like the sound of that.
@marchernandez4596
@marchernandez4596 Жыл бұрын
We need this for the 2nd Spanish Republic and the civil war.
@CK-il8wy
@CK-il8wy Жыл бұрын
The Civil War and War for Independence would both be really good mini series
@papageno88
@papageno88 Жыл бұрын
Can y'all cover the Troubles too?
@d4c634
@d4c634 Жыл бұрын
been watching you guys since i was 10 now am turn 17 i just found that so crazy
@alpacaofthemountain8760
@alpacaofthemountain8760 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@wrrrdnrrrdgrrrl
@wrrrdnrrrdgrrrl Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he said regulated when he meant relegated, but it was done so smoothly that I thought I was having a minor stroke.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
This series should remind everyone how perception of events change with the time period. The average Irish person at the time of this Easter Rising likely loathed the rebels, but later generations would revere them. Who knows; maybe sometime in the future they will be loathed again? This goes for any event in history; what one day you hate/love may be reversed by future generations. History is hardly a straight line, and neither is our perception of it. For better or for worse.
@SEAZNDragon
@SEAZNDragon Жыл бұрын
Considering the Irish Republic immediately went into a civil war after independence I'm sure the rebels will still be seen as hero but with a more critical eye.
@georgebagnall1160
@georgebagnall1160 Жыл бұрын
The rising wasn’t that popular at the time but one factor that wasn’t mentioned in the video was the British reaction after the rising where that rounded up Irish people who had no part or intentions in the rising and shipped them off to prisons in Wales where the actual rebels of 1916 were also incarcerated. Many went in to prison innocent of involvement but left ready to fight for Ireland because they got recruited while incarcerated
@connla
@connla Жыл бұрын
Can't do a summery of 1916 and not quote Yeats on it Now and in time to be, Wherever green is worn, Are changed, changed utterly: A terrible beauty is born.
@margaretcarter6483
@margaretcarter6483 Жыл бұрын
Would further patience have been ultimately rewarded? "Yet England may keep faith, for all that's said and done" -- Yeats, "Easter 1916"
@lukemimnagh2594
@lukemimnagh2594 Жыл бұрын
One inconsistency: the map you showed for the Irish War of Independence was in accurate, as Ireland hadn’t been split into Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland yet. The ROI was officially instated in 1932, after the War.
@ferguscollins7641
@ferguscollins7641 Жыл бұрын
Yeah there were still lots of IRA rebels in what is now modern day Northern Ireland and how the map is set up makes it seem as if there wasn’t
@roflcopterIII
@roflcopterIII Жыл бұрын
Kinda wish there had been even a little more discussion of the women involved. The Easter rising pretty famously had a number of women directly involved in the fighting, not even getting into the enormous amount of logistics work cumann na bann did in the lead up and during the fighting. Idk why countess Markievicz got super briefly name dropped in the first episode if that's literally all y'all were going to mention of her.
@sussyyoutuber7668
@sussyyoutuber7668 Жыл бұрын
Yay new episode😊😊😊
@romainsavioz5466
@romainsavioz5466 Жыл бұрын
Imagine joining the army to go to war and then being ordered to go against their own people
@tbaykas
@tbaykas Жыл бұрын
The explanation for the Irish Civil war is misleading. Both groups were pro independence and republic but only one of them is pro treaty which will create Irish Free State. They know after the treaty they can continue working for full independence.
@jarredmace1080
@jarredmace1080 Жыл бұрын
Poor Ulster being flooded by the ocean at 6:15.
@Li0noftheN0rth
@Li0noftheN0rth Жыл бұрын
Glory oh glory oh to the bold fenian men
@whitearabianhorses
@whitearabianhorses 7 ай бұрын
Imagine basically hearing your sibling get shot! Ugh!! Gives me the shivers.
@maxleroux
@maxleroux Жыл бұрын
I hope you guys are planning to do more videos on ancient history. Those are my favourite ones.
@HawaiianBall
@HawaiianBall Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@yuktse2864
@yuktse2864 Жыл бұрын
I like your shows by the way
@fernandomalpica1870
@fernandomalpica1870 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video series. Any chance you guys can do the Mexican revolution next?
@jfjfmofekmsdopdsaosd
@jfjfmofekmsdopdsaosd 8 ай бұрын
RIP joseph plankett, william pearce and all the rebels who died
@skippership7
@skippership7 6 ай бұрын
It's Plunkett and it's Pearse.
@jfjfmofekmsdopdsaosd
@jfjfmofekmsdopdsaosd 6 ай бұрын
@@skippership7 I know, I’m just a bad typer
@skippership7
@skippership7 6 ай бұрын
@@jfjfmofekmsdopdsaosd fair play mate we all make typo’s
@hrt4919
@hrt4919 Жыл бұрын
I'm sad there was literally no mention of Michael Collins
@theoutlook55
@theoutlook55 Жыл бұрын
7:00-9:00 well thought out analysis of the complexities of human existence.
@JBoyer2025
@JBoyer2025 Жыл бұрын
Blackadder is a great show
@mitchellblake1475
@mitchellblake1475 Жыл бұрын
Always remember, every Easter Monday, to wear your Easter Lily
@maxyuratich9445
@maxyuratich9445 Жыл бұрын
You put did not just put a “ It was Walpole” sticker on the fridge.
@roryhughes711
@roryhughes711 Жыл бұрын
can you do a series on the troubles
@maxlee1423
@maxlee1423 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see the Algerian or Vietnam War of Independence to compare and constrast.
@Dubhfinna420
@Dubhfinna420 Ай бұрын
At the end, the part about the captain Coldherst who was born and raised in cork, he was still British, though, a part of the ruling classespecially seeing how he was a commissioned officer.
@cosmologism3958
@cosmologism3958 Жыл бұрын
Ireland already had a centuries-long history of British settler-colonialism by then, and many of the people living there, especially among the unionists, weren't even Irish, but English settlers. This series should have given more mention of that important context.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 ай бұрын
I wish people would understand more than "locals totally supporting empire" are often just settlers who took natives homes. Like the majority of pro-russians in Ukraine were russians in the first place that were sent to work in mines or to take locals homes after man made.famine.
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