World War Zero - The Crimean War - European History - Part 1 - Extra History

[@extrahistory]

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[@DanKuman]

Interesting :)

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

You guys always make My day!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@iron4517]

The Crimean war was very bloody, full of incompetence and blunders that could have been avoided

[@andy313131313136]

What do you think about the 80 years war? Where the Dutch were fighting for independence, there was fighting all over the world. Notably Brazil, Indonesia, Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao, Europe, and more. Would you ever consider it?

[@alexyordanov6250]

You forgot to mention the Bulgarians and there massive influence over the Russian- ottoman war . Better make an episode about it in the future.

[@MikeJones-ye6li]

"A preist swings an inscense burner like a morning star" That was one hell of an image in my head

[@Kaiyanwang82]

That was more like a flail or a meteor hammer tho

[@dmen89]

"Honey, new DnD Cleric inspiration just dropped"

[@puppylove126]

Oh, those poor Preists fighting and some were killed. 😢

[@Kaiyanwang82]

@@dmen89 Oh, we have such sights to show you

[@voiceofraisin3778]

Thats why you need a missal defence!

[@SidheGaliza]

"And suddenly, a monk throws a punch", is one of those phrases that is just incredible to hear.

[@lordofinnistrad8757]

Unless you play DnD. In which case that’s most campaigns with a Monk.

[@leyrua]

​@@lordofinnistrad8757 Now I want to make a Way of the Open Palm Monk who doesn't actually come from a martial order... he got kicked out for brawling. His former sect is called The Way of the Open Palm, and it has NOTHING to do with martial arts. They are a charity organization that promotes PACIFISM. But he kept getting into brawls, and finally they had enough. He just keeps using the name because he needed that legitimacy to open some doors, and just really hopes that nobody contacts his sect and realizes that he's no longer a member. Anyway, this is the backstory for why a certain sect of VERY FRUSTRATED pacifist monks has a reputation for solving problems with their fists. 🤣

[@meoff7602]

I guess if you nothing of the history of them. I was just like figures religious nonsense started the war.

[@andreaanaxandron9890]

Fun fact: the Crimean war is the first war in which an Italian state, more specifically the kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont, would try to assert itself as a Great power and participate in the peace conference. This is because Piedmont's prime minister, Camillo Benso conte di Cavour, saw the conflict as an opportunity to bring the country on the international stage and gather support for the other important question, the Italian one, in the context of italian unification

[@watcherzero5256]

Thats what a few years being ruled by a Napoleon does to a country.

[@robertjarman3703]

Technically the Romans were a great power, but that was ages before this.

[@penultimateh766]

Yeah that fact isn't really all that fun...

[@theRTSchultz]

I mean..... Savoy in the Nine Years' War (1688-1697) and the War of the Spanish Succession (1701-1714) really took a step, being that in the Nine Years' War, they were the only country to actually occupy ANY French Land... King Victor Amadeus II

[@GorgeDawes]

I think you need a lie down, that’s the maddest thing I’ve heard all week.

[@holstorrsceadus1990]

You could do an entire episode just on that ladder. Maybe even a 3 part series. That ladder has provided some quality content over the years.

[@Merennulli]

Given what they got wrong about it here (it was in use for roughly 30 years before Status Quo, not just some last minute forgotten ladder by a workman), I'm sure we'll be hearing more about it in Lies at least.

[@holstorrsceadus1990]

@@Merennulli Trust me, I know fam. One does not just mention the ladder in passing and especially not if you're going to say something wrong. Actual riots have started that way.

[@OarionSturm]

Except the whole story is BS. It is an urban myth. I was at tue church. The letter leads to some sort of balcony/alcove. The whole story is BS, sorry.

[@Merennulli]

@@OarionSturm The story of the workman leaving it the day before was BS, but it was one of the first objects ruled on as immovable under the Status Quo.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

"A priest swings an incense burner like a morningstar" damn, that priest really had no chill.

[@strawberrysnowflake5488]

@despinasgarden.4100 no joke I'm like, bruh what you swinging that burner for

[@meltedcheese1091]

Wasn’t that a scene in the second Expendables movie

[@franklinclinton4539]

In Finland we mostly know it as the Åland war, as per the fighting in the baltic. My hometown experienced a British attack which saw them burn most of the ships and tar warehouses. Everyone here has heard the story of when ”The Englishmen came ashore”. Well jokes on the English, the tar they burned had been already sold to and paid for by English merchants. Feeling bad about the attack, British Quakers donated money to our city, which we used to build a road, Kveekarinkatu, or Quaker’s street. Really hope you guys talk about this part of the war!

[@loke6664]

They also offered Sweden Åland if they joined the war but Sweden declined. But yeah, the Baltic front was very interesting and isn't talked about much today which is a shame. The only talked about event from the war today is the charge of the light brigade.

[@chheinrich8486]

Today the jokes i doubely on England sincw if they ever tries to attack Finnland today, i bet the finns would beat them within 2 weeks😅😅

[@kirby1225]

My town of birth also saw a minor battle take place against a British naval landing.

[@scottwallace5239]

@@chheinrich8486 whatever helps you sleep at night pal

[@leyrua]

That's hilarious. And it's a good example of why logistics are so important. They sabotaged their own pocketbooks. 😅

[@G_Okr]

The Crimean War is really a case study of how important supplying is, and the difficulty of taking care of an army. Two opposing examples are the ways Britain and France conducted their campaigns. In this case, the British made so many wrong choices, their army was more in danger of its generals than of the Russians.

[@KasumiRINA]

This time they should ask Americans to help with supplies when they disembark in Crimea and Baltics to raze moscow.

[@mmjm932]

Very often in military command a simple stupidity (the unofficial horsemen of the apocalypse) can do more damage than artillery, enemy attacks and dangerous battlefield. Crimean War stupid generals were predecessors to WW1 idiot generals (Douglas Haig even Churchill hated him)

[@AMD7027]

Amateurs talk about tactics, professionals talk about logistics

[@G_Okr]

Watching the French play 5D logistic chess in this war made me laugh very hard. Example: How do we prevent soldiers from catching STDs from local brothels? The British: We forbid them from going there. This only leaves them with the options of self pleasure (which was socially frowned upon and people believed it legit made you blind) or homosexuality (which was punishable by death). Result? Almost a third of British soldiers in hospital beds during the war were there due to severe cases of syphilis. The French: We create a special unit of army prostitutes and distribute them in every regiment. All of them paid by the General Command and weekly checked by doctor. Result? French forces were more or less okay, cases of STDs existed, but were relatively very few.

[@wellofstyx2431]

Wasn't this the war that got the British army the reputation of being lions led by asses?

[@PT5-Shorts]

Wouldn't the 7 Years War be WW0?

[@thetruerift]

There have been a number of WW prequels. Fractious lot, we are as a species. Also European political structures and colonialist empires are particularly.... fighty.

[@Peroman200]

Honestly, thinking that way, Crimean War is like WW T -6 (The Balkan wars, the Boer wars, the Russo-Japanese War). These were all some kind of prelude to WW1, although most were much less 'global'. And these are just the ones I can think of, off the top of my head! Another great video from Extra History!

[@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv]

You could argue the earliest war that could be classified as a world war in terms of sheer scope was the Byzantine-Sassanid War of 602-628, the fighting stretched across three continents, from the tip of Gibraltar to the Indus River and everyone around there was getting involved as proxies.

[@PersonPeople-t1b]

No… wait hold on? Nono… no yeah what

[@Mtioo1]

I think not because Australia was neutral because the British didn't own them at the time I could be wrong

[@Welshman2008]

0:32 “A Monk throws a punch.” Totally unexpected just like the Spanish Inquisition

[@minestar2247]

Don't you know that the spanish inquisition was expected since the beginning of the reconquista

[@roseannedenham2591]

@@minestar2247 Impossible.

[@minestar2247]

@@roseannedenham2591 we have always known the christians would do it, even they knew

[@Artur_M.]

I've heard that monks excel at punching, as a character class. ;)

[@DragoSonicMile]

@Welshman2008 D&D players: "And by unexpected, I mean completely expected!"

[@manarmsgaming9223]

THEY DID IT!!! Crimean war episode foreshadowed years ago! Man I love these guys so much.

[@kluytmansdaboss]

As an MSF worker! Thanks so much for the shoutout! Your help is very important for our work and the people affected by the conflict

[@mainmarco123]

Thank you for your hard work!

[@jonjohns8145]

Incidentally, Brawls like this between Christian factions still happen to this day. This is why the Keys to the Main doors of the Church of the Sepulchre are held by the Muslims Nuseibeh family of Jerusalem. The keys mentioned in the video are for the inner buildings.

[@mojoworkin1348]

But the brawl even continues between the Muslim families, doesn't it? I've heard that another family is the only one permitted to actually open the doors. Lovely Jerusalem Madness...

[@jonjohns8145]

@@mojoworkin1348 No there is no brawling between the two Muslim families, they alternate some functions and back in the day they have had different political ambitions but that had never devolved into a brawl.

[@oceanberserker]

​@@mojoworkin1348 No. Because the Church of the Holy Sepulchre means little to nothing to those of the Islamic faith. And so they can act as a neutral mediator between the two.

[@bebopblah3995]

I knew nothing about this war. I thought the intro was legit an April Fools joke. It reads exactly like a Monty Python stketch. I guess fact can be stranger than fiction at times.

[@shadiafifi54]

@@mojoworkin1348 Welcome to the Holy Lands. Too much history, too little geography.

[@Bus_Driver_Jay]

I can’t explain how happy I was to hear the Crimean War described as the first modern war. I once wrote an essay at university where we were asked what we thought was the first modern war, and this was my chosen war.

[@esoopthederp7672]

That’s awesome

[@masaheimoi]

I read from a book that one reason for Russia expecting Britan to support them was because Nikolai didn't quite understand the difference between his monarchy and English system. At some point he did have good relations with English leaders, but English leaders couldn't simply do what they wanted since there was anti-Russian pressures.

[@youtubeuser_custom_1]

Btw in modern Russian history books that point of view preserved. We still can't believe the British King had no power in a numerous events in 19 and 20th century

[@masaheimoi]

@@youtubeuser_custom_1 That is actually super interesting.

[@youtubeuser_custom_1]

@@masaheimoi indeed, the difference of the local viewpoints on the common history is quite unpopular but interesting field of study. There should be much more content about that

[@masaheimoi]

@@youtubeuser_custom_1 I feel like most of the differences are about one side writing about how their side was more right and not as bad as their enemy.

[@Orocnogu]

@@masaheimoi well yeah ofcourse everyone is biased. Just like this video is biased to one point of view when it comes to more recent events. An unbiased perspective is a luxury we can afford after a few hundreds of years have passed. And for official history books - even longer.

[@ilect1690]

Fun fact, the emperor of austria is the same person during the crimean war in 1852 and ww1 in 1914

[@Alonkis251]

I forget it forbidden to say Franz Joseph

[@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv]

You could argue the earliest world war was the Byzantine-Sassanid War of 602-628, the fighting stretched across 3 continents simultaneously, from the tip of Gibraltar to the Indus River with literally everyone getting involved as proxies.

[@Aki-47.]

Yes

[@anti_shirk2592]

what about caliphate invasion of both of that which entered europe, asia, and africa

[@tagmata1872]

fighting in the later roman/early byzantine period was rarely fully localized to one area, a war with Persia triggering raids in already poorly defended territory was hardly unique

[@FlaviusBelisarius-ck6uv]

@@anti_shirk2592 Yes, the subsequent invasions of the Rashidun and later Umayyad Caliphate were *after* the war, making this an earlier example of a world war before the world wars. I’d considered using Caesar’s Civil War as an example too but I figured that was probably pushing it cause the fighting was mostly constrained to the Mediterranean.

[@charliefarmer4365]

Fun fact: The seven years war has also been called World War Zero.

[@ag7898]

The most interesting thing about this is finding out what LEAD to the Crimean War. It is something that often gets glossed over for a war that gets ignored about as much as the Korean War. Speaking of the naval aspect... Drachinafel just did a video about a month or two ago talking about all the naval battles of the Crimean War.

[@Merennulli]

The ladder was not just left there the day before by a workman. It was there nearly 30 years before Status Quo and was depicted in a 1728 engraving and its regular use to reach the balcony was documented during the intervening years when there was a tax on entering and leaving the church that they were dodging by living inside it.

[@PaleoalexPicturesLtd]

yes. It was originally used by the Armenian clergy to access what was effectively their refectory from the church's corniche

[@ElBandito]

Tax dodgers. They are everywhere.

[@prestonjones1653]

Below even the need for food and water on Maslow's hierarchy is the inate human need to evade taxes.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

Seven years war more should have had the “World War 0” title. Of course there is other options but Seven Years War is something I see often argued by academics.

[@willfakaroni5808]

World war -1

[@Writer_Productions_Map]

Someone already said it

[@shadiafifi54]

One can argue the first true global conflict was the Seven Years' War, where operations were carried out across Europe, North America, the Atlantic, India, Mediterranean, and even the Far East. But yeah, the "Crimean" War was the real prelude to the brutal conflicts of the 20th century.

[@tommy-er6hh]

The 7yrs war was world wide, but was it a World War? There was no mass involvement of civilians, just fighting by professionals, mostly navy world wide. There was no control of total economy lie World Wars. World War was a total war, the 7yrs war was not total. So it is a world wide war, but not a World War. Similarly the Crimean War was not a World War either. my $0.05 worth

[@Writer_Productions_Map]

You kan delete þis bekause someone else already brought it

[@mlgdigimon]

@@Writer_Productions_Map more people can bring it up

[@napoleon_bonaparte_the_great]

Correction: He didn't lose in 1852; He could not legally stand for election. Which is why the coup occurred at all; Napoleon III's problem wasn't with the Republic, it was that the Republic's constitution prevented him from getting proper two terms at least.

[@lancerguy3667]

You're a bit biased on this topic, Monsieur Napoleon!!

[@SvenElven]

While the ability to sit for too long enables totalitarian dictatorships, too short periods are a problem as well. Arguably the fact that consuls could only sit for one year brought down the Roman Republic!

[@BaldricOutremer]

It's true that the coup didn't happen because of a lost election (in fact, it happened in 1851, before the 1852 presidential election could take place). But even if Bonaparte had been allowed to stand for a second term, it seems likely that the coup would nevertheless have happened a few years later. He clearly wasn't a man who would have willingly given up the power he held.

[@vicenzostella1390]

@@SvenElven And currently, it's what led El Salvador's president to break constitutional law and serve another term. The funny thing is though, El Salvadorians love him while other world powers hate him, calling him a dictator in all but name.

[@Game_Hero]

And after that second term, he'd want a third term, and so on and so forth.

[@CliffCardi]

UK: “I cannot believe I am fighting alongside a Frenchman.” France: “How about fighting alongside a friend?” UK: “Aye, I can do that.”

[@counterdom]

tno reference?????????????????

[@connergibson5930]

​@@counterdom LOTR, return of the king, unless I'm very mistaken

[@br0kboi416]

​@@connergibson5930 you are not mistaken

[@Merennulli]

@@counterdomWhat is TNO? I tried to find it myself but nothing I found made sense. EDIT: A few people have answered. "The New Order".

[@andykg7103]

@@connergibson5930I think it’s the two towers LOTR

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

Nicholas I: the Ottoman Empire is a sick man of Europe that will collapse any day now Ottoman Empire: outlasts the Russian empire by a few years Still my fav joke Edit: PLEASE I KNOW THE COMPLEXITIES THAT CAME AFTER with the collapse of the ottoman into multiple countries and Russia simply being government change with its own loss of territory please it was a joke-

[@bojannisic2906]

Except that Ottoman Empire shattered in handful of new states and consequently decrease in land size, while Russia basically just changed government type

[@raidang]

Russian Empire didn't die it became a more powerful Soviet Union

[@Omer1996E.C]

@@raidang it died Orthodox monopoly, Romanov, monarchy, feudalism and capitalism Everything Romanov got removed, it ended effectively. If you are going that way, then the ottoman empire was a Turkish and Islamic empire, both still survives

[@Omer1996E.C]

@@bojannisic2906 Russia changed government, ideology, legacy, Just like the ottomans, but less radically. That doesn't deny both of them collapsed

[@bojannisic2906]

@@Omer1996E.C Successor to Russia lost little to none of it's territory while successor to Ottoman Empire lost more then half of it's territory. So if you are really picky about facts, sure you can have it, but it is stupid to compare it , and you can't deny that they did not collapsed to same degree.

[@tywelch8759]

YAY, Thank you for doing the Crimean War always wanted to learn more about it

[@shylockwesker5530]

Same here. Whenever they post I say to myself: Oh goodie, I wanted to find out more about it.

[@baliyae]

It’s rare Holy Week coincides on the same week. I’m Orthodox and our Easter is usually a week after Western Easter. It depends on the year. Sometimes, it’s later, sometimes it’s earlier.

[@samsonsoturian6013]

IIRC it is because some parts of eastern Europe still use the Julian calendar, which doesn't have leap years.

[@vicenzostella1390]

Yep, Catholic here, and we are indeed one week apart. There was talk of making them the same week again, but it obviously didn't happen. My Orthodox friend and I shared our different traditions during that time.

[@thomasrinschler6783]

@@samsonsoturian6013 Orthodox churches still use the Julian calendar, but not the the nations or states though. And the Julian calendar does have leap years, but doesn't omit those on century years not divisible by 400 like the Gregorian calendar does - thus the Gregorian calendar didn't have leap years in 1700, 1800, and 1900, while the Julian did (both had leap years in 2000). Because of that, the calendars have slowly drifted apart.

[@seytanuakbar3022]

Easter fall on same day for both religion every third year.

[@samsonsoturian6013]

@@seytanuakbar3022 Easter is always on a Sunday, though

[@joythought]

"History doesn't repeat. It rhymes". Except for Russia. It repeats.

[@KappaClauss]

Only in western so-called "independent" narrative

[@giorgijioshvili9713]

@@KappaClauss no

[@benismann]

Then can Poland, baltics, central asia, finland and whatever else casually join russia, and like the whole middle east to turkey just so history can actually repeat?

[@karanaher5030]

​@@benismannNah that's boring. How bout Poland, Sweden, Turkey and Central Asia annex Russian territory?

[@benismann]

@@karanaher5030 that could work too

[@UkrozaVR]

Watching this from Ukraine, thank you for including the donation link and taking time to talk about the conflict ❤

[@AndrewJohnson-oy8oj]

"Suddenly a monk throws a punch" is a great moment of incidence for a story.

[@CaiRobinson]

The Great Game would make an excellent series, as its not well known and has a lot happening

[@mainmarco123]

WW1 is something that is rarely covered well here in the US. The Crimean War even less so, so I am pumped for a series on it! I actually read a manhwa recently (Korean style comic similar to manga) that had a lot of allagories to the Crimean War, specifically the MC being a reference to Florence Nightingale. It is an isekai with magic and modern weaponry, but it is a fun read and sort of got me into knowing about the Crimean War. It refered to it as Kremina I think, just to make it not as obvious, but it was a very fun read and made me start researching more on this topic. I can't wait to see what else I learn from the series here!

[@Toonrick12]

You know what the name of the series is?

[@evannationarmy7769]

@@Toonrick12 Yeah, I would like to know as well

[@charliefarmer4365]

Never apologise for interrupting a history lesson in order to present ways to help people right now.

[@spacemanx9595]

Yes, I appreciated that immensely 😊

[@Limrasson]

Eh, if one was to list all the imemdiate issues costing human lives that needs fixing, then we would be here until our heads turned grey. Altruism is arbitrary.

[@dimaignatiev6370]

especially with the horrors going on right now....

[@nervaaugustus7089]

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. Failure to act in the present when it's warranted, however, means that the future will have more lessons to learn.

[@cjthebeesknees]

To bad reality befuddles good faith attempts by humanity to genuinely help, those funds will be used as tax write offs for wealthy corporations, funds will be used inappropriately, and only a minor percentage will reach the humanitarian crisis, the majority will be embezzled or spent on military hardware to inflict more suffering, yay humans.

[@l.ross.6400]

If Crimean war is "World War 0" so the seven years war is "World War -1".

[@ElBandito]

Crusades are then WW -2.

[@robinstack7309]

Maybe?

[@Torryjedyne]

It was briefly hinted, but one of the big reasons why Russia didn't expect England to ally with France was due to the system known as the Concert of Europe. This was setup by the Austrian chancellor Metternich after the defeat of Napoleon as a means to "stop French aggression" via a coalition of superpowers (Austria, Prussia, Russia, and England). The system worked so well* that it brought the longest period of peace in Europe ever seen to that point.

[@Torryjedyne]

*there were obviously some hiccups along the way, and plus most of the conflicts had just been exported to outside of Europe (for example the Great Game for Afghánistán mentioned in the video). But overall the leaders of the leading countries of Europe were pleased with the arrangement

[@Torryjedyne]

There's actually much more to talk about the Concert of Europe that I think would make for a great EH series

[@Bariom_dome]

Meanwhile Jesus: Seriously, dudes?

[@Ploxtifs_OldAndDeadAccountXD]

Meanwhile God is just munching on a bag of popcorn, laughing immensely over the entire situation.

[@FreyaofCerberus]

I've always wanted to know more about this conflict, thanks for doing it. And thanks for acknowledging the parallels to the modern Russian invasion of Ukraine. Your content as always is top notch.

[@Tegwan11]

My great great grandfather died in the Crimean war fighting for the Brit’s. Thanks for making a video on the topic. ❤

[@DomyTheMad420]

3:00 hey i remember that bit? i commented last time "Oh i'm gonna take that ladder lol"

[@angusyang5917]

I think you might want to specify "Orthodox Christians," because the label encompasses a wide group of autocephalous churches, divided between Eastern (Russian, Greek, Bulgarian, Romanian, Serbian, etc.) and Oriental (Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, Ethiopian, etc.)

[@oldgus01]

Agreed. Incidentally, I find it interesting that the categories here in English are "Eastern" and "Also Eastern, But From Latin."

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

Armenian and Ethiopian Orthodox churches also got into full blown brawls with Catholics on multiple occasions during the Holy Week in Jerusalem. I remember an Ethiopian Orthodox monk got beaten to near death in 2003 after moving his chair on one side to be under the shade...

[@ferretyluv]

Whenever we say “orthodox,” in the Anglosphere, it’s about Eastern Orthodox. If it’s about Oriental Orthodox, there’s usually the nation’s church mentioned (Coptic Church, Ethiopian Orthodox, Eritrean Orthodox, Syriac Orthodox). “Oriental Orthodox” is rarely spoken of as a whole, they’re all treated separately. And that’s not even getting into Armenian Apostolic.

[@Jay_in_Japan]

yeah no one says "Orthodox" when meaning the Oriental Orthodox

[@animatorofanimation128]

8:17 Napoleon III didn't actually lose the election, he just wasn't allowed to run again due to the short term limits.

[@BosonCollider]

Surely this peninsula will never be fought about again...

[@scottanos9981]

Some of the bloodiest land in all of Europe

[@IAmTheAce5]

It’s amazing how much of Russian history revolves around ’restoring past glory’- and everyone else’s expense

[@Divuar]

So true

[@cjthebeesknees]

consume consume consume don’t question don’t question don’t question fight amongst yourselves fights amongst yourselves fight amongst yourselves adhere to the preconceived narratives or else adhere to the preconceived narratives or else adhere to the preconceived narratives OR ELSE, citizens.

[@KasumiRINA]

That's the "great russian culture" for you. Everything from Dostoyevsky to Tolstoy to Pushkin to Lermontov is literally about supporting colonization then a poor russian having soul searching over corpses of people he ax murdered (literally Crime and Punishment's story is glorifying a murderer because he is ACTUALLY A VICTIM somehow).

[@benismann]

for much of history it did not have a "past glory" to restore tho? If anything it was more of a "current objective: survive" until like early 17th century

[@OSTemli]

According to who ? Your history, You people forgot you sided with muslim, Russia could only free two or three christian country because of France and British. Many christian countries will have to live as slave to muslim for centuries due to British and France wierd way of thinking

[@elliedorough6160]

I remember your series on Mary Seacole. I’ve been hoping you’d cover the Crimean war!

[@cosmedelustrac5842]

They also hinted at this in their Catherine the Great series.

[@CaptainKillroy]

Been waiting a LONG time for thid series to come out. Thank you for making it. I have been excited ever since you mentioned it all the way back in Catherine the Greats Series.

[@davidjackson6475]

I think this series has been on the bucket list since the original creators were making videos long before the transfer of ownership and Matt took over.

[@CaptainKillroy]

@@davidjackson6475 Yeah. Happy it's finally out

[@Epee2134]

Do I feel bad for skipping over the 'interruption' during the middle of the video (during repeat viewings)? No, I do not. Also, I can't wait for that Mary Seacole cameo~

[@lucapiteo9885]

Hi Extra History, I'm glad you are talking about the Crimean war and you mentionned the ongoing events. One question: you talked in this first episode about the powers involved in the war. Are you going to mention in the next episodes that also the Kingdom of Sardinia joined on the side of France, UK and the Ottomans? They took part in the conflict not because they were interested in controlling the East, but because Cavour (the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Sardinia, whom I hope you will talk about in a future series about the Unification of Italy) was looking for a powerful European ally who would help him against Austria for the Italian Unification (Cavour persuaded Napoleon III to become their ally and a few years later Cavour and the French Emperor would sign a secret treaty in Plombieres, France, without telling it to the Sardinian King Victor Emmanuel II and to the rest of Europe).

[@Leivve]

The Crimean war can't be called WW0. The 7 Years war already holds that title.

[@paulchapman8023]

WW0.5?

[@gard3boi311]

So, instead of World War 0 for both, how about World War Alpha and War World Beta?

[@explodethebomb]

@@paulchapman8023 Napoleonic wars

[@PEEWEYMINGMoe]

@@explodethebomb Napoleonic wars cant be called WW0 because it was a war of muskets and cannons but not modern rifles and proper artillery

[@explodethebomb]

@@PEEWEYMINGMoe Neither did the 7 years war (which was before the Napoleonic) or the Crimean. The first "modern artillery" was invented in 1898

[@ShanRenxin]

Heartfelt calls to action and Clifford the Big Red Empire. This is the content I crave!

[@4_01K]

The most major war that I have no idea about.

[@augustwolf_2256]

speaking of Napoleon III, I'd love to see a series about the Franco-Prussian war, (1870-71) the war is often overlooked but had a huge impact on reshaping Europe to be the way that it was by 1914, as well as being the catalyst for the world's First Communist Revolution - the Paris Commune.

[@robertbodell55]

it is partially featured in there series on otto von Bismarck, however its not the main focus.

[@clarenceonyekwere5428]

@@robertbodell55Was about to say they had done something on it

[@Sam-h6u9d]

6:06 i am an ukrainian and i just want to say thanks

[@knightsoftheideologies5086]

I have been waiting for this series since Mary Segaul I am so excited!

[@Shinzon23]

People beating the s*** out of each other with crucifixes just amuses me to no end

[@silverhawkscape2677]

As a Catholic it's still a funny image. 😅

[@Shinzon23]

@@silverhawkscape2677 I mean the incense dispensing thing sure as h*** looks like a medieval mace...

[@dmen89]

Nicholas make a calculated move, but boy was he bad at maths.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

6:46 and the nickname became true. The ottomans were truly the Sick Man of Europe. Although ironically the Russian Empire fell first😅😅😅😅

[@bread3039]

Man this is wild. I hope they release a sequel one day.

[@lucasmendesschroeder5861]

I'm always dazzled by how superb EH videos are. Simply first-class.

[@Khornecussion]

" Jerusalem. " My immediate reaction: " Uh-oh. "

[@TNap-tu43]

Yay! I was waiting for you to do to the Crimean war! You’ve foreshadowed it SO MUCH!!!

[@kotyrollins]

The opening makes me think of a quote from Sam O'Nella about one of the napoleaonic wars. "Never heard of it? Me Either. Who was in it? Fuckin everyone."

[@mrromanonroblox]

That ladder still gets me... I'm like.. shocked.. Why keep a latter that someone left on accident.

[@novo121]

I was recently on school trip with my history teacher and classmates. When we went into a church of cetinje my protestant classmate went into that Orthodox church with rest of us orthodox Christians. I was so surprised seeing protestant in the orthodox church i almost passed out LOL

[@ferretyluv]

I didn’t know there were even Montenegrin Protestants.

[@novo121]

​@@ferretyluv my classmate isnt from Montenegro

[@danielduvernay3207]

I literally never knew that was how it began, crazy what is left out of even a fairly good history curriculum

[@danielmalinen6337]

The Crimean War is remembered in Finland mostly for what happened in Åland, and Finnish folk songs are still sung about these events that say, "And the Åland War was terrible, when the English with their 300 ships sailed on the shores of Finland: and it was the mood of the enemy that they wanted to destroy the fort and take its military as prisoners; but the Finnish boys shot into the air, so that the walls of the fortress echoed and the shores of Åland were ringing." But in reality there were really only 100 ships, the English were not alone but friends with the French and the "terrible" war was over in three days because the Finnish soldiers surrendered, raised the Mercy Flag, opened the gates and were taken as prisoners of war for a year. But because they were the first Finns to board a steamship and a steam train, they were celebrated as great war heroes. In any case, this end result was later the beginning that led to the decision and demand to demilitarize Åland.

[@Oxtocoatl13]

IIRC the original lyrics of the song described the struggles the Finns experienced as POWs, but post-independence this was replaced with a more jingoistic, overtly nationalistic verse.

[@OWTShark]

Speaking of WW0, i think you guys should cover the 7 years war, it would be very interesting.

[@corneliu-mihaimagureanu6626]

Only one thing I noticed as being wrong, the Tsar wasn't the head of the Russian orthodox church but the Russian Church was lead by a synod/council of Hierarchs and while supervised by the Tsar he wasn't seen as the head of the church.

[@martin27000]

a Russian media company called star media actually did a documentary about this and did call it "world war 0" and its good to see you guys covering it as i love to see the things you bring up to the talks of this subject keep the good work going and cant wait for the next episode

[@redkraken6516]

Though I totally agree, that star media isn't a place to find an unbiased retelling of history, I must argue, that this chanel isn't either. If you interessted in the topic, I would recommed to see videos from Real Time History, HistoryMarche or Jabzy.

[@Argacyan]

@@redkraken6516 Any historian, even any history-interested person, worth their salt would immediately deny the claim that they were unbiased themselves. At least from HistoryMarche I remember them denying that claim, even while I would agree they do fine content.

[@redkraken6516]

@@Argacyan well, of course. The thing is a scale of that bias and scale at which it afects creators work. You can't be 100% unbiased, but your work can be more or less biased in comparison with others works.

[@michaelhowell2326]

Their Tzars series was really good. I've watched it several times.

[@hjuy4049]

​@@redkraken6516 The concept of "unbiased history" is a nothing more than a joke

[@wowyourereallyreadingthis]

Cant wait for Extra History to do the cavalry charge at Balaclava

[@maud3444]

The seven years' war was the original world war zero in my opinion, but this conflict has a claim to it aswell. Thank you for making a video about this !!

[@WilliamSchmidNetwork]

I’ve been wanting a series on the Crimean War since the miniseries on Mary Seacole.

[@cosmedelustrac5842]

At last! Dan's prophecy has come true ! I hope that the same will happen to Shingen Takeda.

[@lucapiteo9885]

In which video did he say that? I remember the prophecy, but not the episode

[@sticktheok]

​@@lucapiteo9885 one of the catherine's series

[@MarcMagma]

1:15 - 1:19 Honastly: Yeah, I did. Looking forward to getting educated on the only big war in Europe that comes to my mind that I barely know anything about.

[@Ab_someone]

Extra credits the best fun source of history lessons. Love you guys Team Extra Credits 🤗❤

[@silveryuno]

The weakness of the Ottomans in this period is almost unbelivable...

[@benismann]

what's more fascinating is that it stood for more than 50 years afterwards

[@TahaEK-g5l]

I loved reading the book The Great Game, perhaps make a series on that

[@Moonl55]

You guys should do a video about the War of the Triple Alliance, between Paraguay and several South American nations. It’s fairly similar to the great northern war and a cool story aswell.

[@ethank5059]

I'd love to see that. Latin American history really doesn't get covered a lot in English language media.

[@snufkingstan]

as a catholic that intro just made me so sad. i wish people learned to worship together despite religious differences, and such a holy time overlapping like that should be so beautiful

[@Hjarrand]

Moment of note: The United Kingdom shifted towards animosity towards Russia in 1814 already. Being allied with Russia during the campaign to defeat Napoleon, the British Empire served her own interests after Napoleon's capitulation in may 1814, and over the summer, London began to show signs of mistrust towards the Russian Empire. It is fair to say that the seeds of this war were sown some 40 years before it began.

[@thanhhoangnguyen4754]

The Tsar did attempt first to put someone that was on Napoleon family not the Bourbon on throne to secure it alliance. Next he boldly declared that Russia will annex all of Poland. Then other accidents happen for it mistrust. Pretty much in the Congress of Vienna everyone was serving their own interests that contradict with one another.

[@Hjarrand]

@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 Regarding Poland, it seems Russia got her way. The country was already under Russian control, from the time of Catherine the Great. Napoleon gave the state some independence, but Russia established new control after the congress of Vienna. No wonder the Moscow campaign in 1812 had some Polish units.

[@thanhhoangnguyen4754]

@@Hjarrand Yeah that the problem the other power was keen in seeing poland restore even if it a small one. Even Austria willingly to give up it part of Poland. But Russia will not back down on Poland. Also on the realistic point like you said they already occupy Poland even at the time of Congress. If the other power want Poland independence they have to fight Russia for it.

[@Hjarrand]

@@thanhhoangnguyen4754 The Polish question popped up again in 1831 when the Poles rebelled. At the time, Great Britain had guaranteed for the independence of Greece, and then for the new Belgian state, which declared itself independent that same year. But Poland never got anything out of it. The Russians crushed the Poles, and the Czar, Nicholas the first, had no qualms about it either. He gained the title "Iron Nicholas" after that affair. The Russian victory in Poland might have led him to believe nobody would care to intervene in the Balkans later on. But to be fair, had he waited that one out, the Ottoman Empire would have collapsed anyway, during WWI.

[@thanhhoangnguyen4754]

@@Hjarrand Well whether they will collapse like the Austrian and The Russian will be debatable. Beside the Balkan was away the powerkeg when nationalism hit. I doubt the Russian will wait it out if they see another chance to influence in the Bakan to get a port there. Then the Austrian will complain then the British have to step in. If anything they will not allow the Russian if it alive to take Constantinople. Either way will definitely for another Balkan Happen and a World War to make the Russian weak for the Pole to get free.

[@henrymeredith8532]

I have wanted this episode for a long time

[@PuzzlingDingo]

The idea of Russia being the third Rome comes primarily from the Byzantine refugees that came to Russia after the fall of Constantinople. It's also the reason for Russia's name "Россия", the Greekified version of Rus. Though religion played a huge role, it was primarily about the integration of Byzantine nobles and the Tsar's wife at the time having been a Byzantine princess.

[@islammehmeov2334]

In reality russia has nothing to do with the Roman Empire the third ROME is the OTTOMAN TURKS not only do the TURKS hold the Estarn Romans Empire territories but the hold there culture architecture history heck the legendary founders of and ANCESTOR OF ROMAN'S the TROJANS ARE in TURKIYE

[@anderskorsback4104]

Also, at one time, the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, the closest thing Orthodox Christians have to a pope, fled Ottoman rule to Moscow, recognizing it as the legal successor of the Byzantine Empire. A mantle that the Muscovite state was very eager to take up.

[@islammehmeov2334]

@@anderskorsback4104 you do realize that christianity is jews fantasies and has nothing to do with the ROMAN EMPIRE

[@jonijoestar6871]

There no such Byzantine refugees to Russia. There is diaspora estabilish in Italian republic, one of them were beggar and pretender to the throne that have his daughter married to Russian Tsar. Most of Byzantine Nobility including 2 rightful heir of Constantine XI were drafted to Jannisaries and Served Ottoman Empire. Entire Constantinople based patriach of orthodox Church issued a decree to legitimize Mehmed II as Caesar of Rome

[@PuzzlingDingo]

@jonijoestar6871 Yes, there were refugees that went to Moscow. And no, not a pretender marrying his daughter off, but the niece of Constantine XI, Sophia Palaiologina. Though it's true that most fled to Italy, not surprising considering that Italian merchants were among the first to bring the news of Constantinople falling back to the rest of Europe.

[@bowken4954]

I’ve been WAITING for this ever sense the Mary Seacole video

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

LOVE your videos guys! Thanks for this! 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

[@Gorboduc]

All the best stories begin with the phrase "Suddenly, a monk throws a punch".

[@achillesplayz8197]

I’ve been waiting for this one.. !

[@fannymcflanagan2732]

So glad to see you all making a series on this conflict. It’s very misunderstood I feel like

[@abdullahabu6439]

Better mention that the Ottomans had their own victories especially under Omar Pasha and not show them as the ones that always call for help

[@benismann]

That should probably be mentioned, but i think the reason for british (and french (and sardinian (and whatever whoever else))) intervention was the fact that ottomans would lose otherwise

[@aidencrandall7344]

Not many channals can make a war not many heard and make it entertaining to learn about but this channal does it expertly

[@WarBrickproductions]

world war one I think should have been the Seven Years war as it was fought all over the world in 4 continents

[@kennetheaton1728]

Then what about the War of Spanish Succession? Technically started in 1701 and had fighting on 5 continents.

[@mojoworkin1348]

Nah, I think WW I is world war one :) I always considered it more important that there were armies from all over the World in World War One, like the Indian and Sikh Regiments, the ANZAC armies, the French African Legions and so forth, not forgetting the US and Japanese Army as forces from independent, not colonized nations. Battling on more than one continent is quite common for wars since antiquity e.g. the war of Alexander against the Persian Empire, the Punic Wars or in modern times the war of the spanish succession (1702-1715), which seems to me to be really the first war with global strategic choices like the french using the spanish silver resources in the new world...

[@timberwolfe1645]

THANK YOU....for explaining that title. I LITERALLY thought of that

[@austinreed5805]

If WW1 is the start of the Original Trilogy, the Crimean War is the start of the Prequel Saga.

[@Game_Hero]

Who is the Jar Jar here?

[@scribejay]

The Sequel Trilogy is the Cold War, right? ...Right?

[@Game_Hero]

@@scribejay The Cold War is the Starverse with the sequels and all the spin-offs and TV shows.

[@history-jovian]

​@@Game_Hero what about WW2

[@Game_Hero]

@@history-jovian The novels

[@Kaihatsu]

A priest throwing around a censer like a morningstar is some image.

[@evannationarmy7769]

0:43 This is freaking HILARIOUS!! 😅

[@jimmytuplano3843]

I can see it picture in my head using it as a freaking nunchuck

[@Pikashockdragon]

0:43 Priest: I'MA SWINGING MY INCENSE!!!

[@redkraken6516]

I would argue that world war zero is 7 years war, and crimean war is just a regional war.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

It wasn’t just regional (there British ships even fighting here in Finnish coast since were part of Russia at the time). But I don’t think it’s WW0 either. It’s more modern than Seven Years War that it’s often suggested but I don’t think that’s the main requirement.

[@redkraken6516]

@@sarasamaletdin4574 it's regional, as in mostly fought in europe, and a bit in asia. 7 years war was fought also in overseas colonies, of wich russia had non (exept alaska, which didn't see fighting).

[@ItsTimeSteve_]

I have been waiting years for this episode.

[@aquilla2.087]

"Great Russian War" sounds so much better

[@EmporerAaron]

Oh I'm so looking forward to this series.

[@samslater4083]

Mexican war had pictures before Crimean war and Crimean war also had Sardinia helping out

[@pierreolivierlepage664]

"And suddendly a monk throws a punch" is not something we're used to hear outside of a fantasy RPG context.

[@47d75]

History truly does repeat itself.

[@Game_Hero]

it doesn't but it does rhyme

[@KasumiRINA]

@@Game_Hero if we weren't literally dying, the war would be very funny. In reality, I haven't had a full night of sleep in two days as I watched bodies of refugees go away in ambulance. They moved to Western Ukraine to escape Bakhmut, and were killed here in Odesa by an Iranian drone. At the same time russians keep doing blunders absolutely worthy of making into another Death of Stalin or Dr. Strangelove dark comedy. How many times did they film that one Leopard, while losing kilometers at the frontline?

[@Game_Hero]

@@KasumiRINA I am deeply sorry for the horrible sights you and your nation have to endure daily. Stay strong Ukraine, you can do this! Your resistance is profoundly inspiring and don't let these imperialist youtubers in their bedroom tell you otherwise.

[@KasumiRINA]

@@Game_Hero Oh we know, thanks for support! My point was that if it wasn't for horrors of war, this entire campaign would be comedic. History does repeat itself as a farce.