Death of a Valkyrie: The 1966 XB-70 Midair Collision

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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

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@christopherwaldrop8115
@christopherwaldrop8115 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best channels on you KZbin. Simple. No nonsense. Educational. Non-offensive. Politically neutral. Well done.
@marks.3510
@marks.3510 Жыл бұрын
My father, BLS, was the project manager of the XB-70. The day of the crash my mother gathered the kids together in the living room and, through tears, told us about the horrific accident. My father arrived home very late that night. The sadness on his face and in his countenance in losing two of his close friends, Cotton and Cross, was too much for myself and my siblings. Tears were shed as the family hugged my father.
@johnhutchison9782
@johnhutchison9782 Жыл бұрын
The XB70 has been my favorite bomber since I first saw a photo of it in a book when I was 16. I traveled to Wright-Patterson with my best buddy after we graduated from high school. At that time the Valkyrie was outside, with only cables around it for security. Bypassing that I walked up to the gleaming white bird. I touched its landing gear, wondering what it was like to be roaring down the runway just at the moment of V1. It was an emotional moment for me, knowing the history of the aircraft, its triumphs and tragedy. I for one was elated when the Air Force Museum finally built a hanger for that incredible flying machine to live out the rest of its days, free from the elements. No more rain, no more snow, no more sun baking it. Just preservation so that everyone could see this truly magnificent plane. I still have my B70 tie and tie tack from when I visited.
@jefftuckercfii
@jefftuckercfii 5 жыл бұрын
Who could possibly click thumbs down on this video? Anyone who did needs his/her head examined. I was 9 years old when this happened. The XB-70 was my favorite aircraft; I had built a model of it the previous year. I was absolutely crushed when I heard the news. It didn't deter me from wanting to fly, which was my dream, but with eyesight issues the military wouldn't accept me for pilot training, so it took until my 30s before I could realize that dream. Thank you, History Guy, for preserving this story and remembering those who gave their lives that day.
@lancesmith7235
@lancesmith7235 5 жыл бұрын
I was 14 the day my Mother told me she had been married to a pilot who got killed, in training, during WWII. She was crying when I got home from school that day. The day that Joe Walker died. He had been her military escort for her husband's remains and she spent four days, on a train, in the worst grief she had ever experienced with the kindest man she could have ever met. That was the story she told me, through tears, on the day Joe Walker died.
@maryrafuse2297
@maryrafuse2297 5 жыл бұрын
Heartbreaking! God rest his soul.
@johngalt3568
@johngalt3568 5 жыл бұрын
It’s an incredibly small world. When one serves or is connected to the military it’s amazing how much history one comes in contact with. I bet Joe Walker did his best to represent his service and comfort your mother. Sometimes heroes are heroes in more than one sense. Thanks for that story. I was an Army Chaplain for 20 years. I never saw a Soldier treat a funeral detail with anything less than the honor deserved. They all knew their brothers and sisters would treat them with dignity and respect were the roles reversed.
@lancesmith7235
@lancesmith7235 5 жыл бұрын
@@johngalt3568 Thank you for acknowledging and confirming. She was truly grateful for how she was treated by the military and Joe Walker himself. That was before he became famous.Our military's treatment of the fallen is truly famous.
@williamwoodrow6556
@williamwoodrow6556 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I. Always say that men are equals and then you hear a story like this. So I try to better.
@knutdergroe9757
@knutdergroe9757 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamwoodrow6556 , We are born as equals. It is the examples we set, That makes us different.
@jeffreyharrison4111
@jeffreyharrison4111 2 жыл бұрын
I was assigned to WPAFB while in the AF and in 1972 was working in Aeronautical Systems Division in Area B traveling daily to the BOQ in Area C on a base shuttle bus (I had no car at the time). After picking me up, the shuttle swung by the AF museum and, in doing so, drove right under the forward section of the one remaining XB-70. This was a real bus, like a school bus only shorter. When you realize that the "nose" gear on the XB-70 comes down from right at the beginning of the air inlet, I was probably directly under the cockpit as the bus was going under it. I got a real good look at the plane and I remain impressed to this day at its size.
@normanblack4853
@normanblack4853 Жыл бұрын
My father, Edwin J Black, was in the back seat of the F4 Phantom on that fateful day. He remembers it like it was yesterday.
@reetapaljhhhmbbp382
@reetapaljhhhmbbp382 Жыл бұрын
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@garywilliams2769
@garywilliams2769 Жыл бұрын
That's cool if it's true
@virgochild
@virgochild Жыл бұрын
Hey Norman, It your Cus Marv. We had the Life Magazine with the story on the front, when growing up. Tell Uncle Jay hi.
@TheHitmanAgent
@TheHitmanAgent Жыл бұрын
@@garywilliams2769 ...if it is true, indeed! 😆
@fighterjetsteve
@fighterjetsteve Жыл бұрын
​@Gary Williams why don't you idiots Google it. Its easy enough to find out if it's true. What an ahole.🖕
@Jmp5nb
@Jmp5nb 5 жыл бұрын
My Father was an aircraft sheet metal worker on bird #1. I clearly recall waiting in line to climb up the ladder where one of the pilot’s waited, asking us if would like a better look inside! At eight years of age you can well imagine how impressive it was. This was on the day of rollout for the families of the worker’s too get a look at what was then a secret. Thanks for the coverage History Guy, the X-B70 resulted in great strides in technologic aircraft development.
@hscollier
@hscollier 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you are making a good living off of your work here, because you ‘do history’ better than any channel on cable and any other history forum that I know of. It’s obvious that you do “love history.” Thank you.
@Ammo08
@Ammo08 5 жыл бұрын
Retired Air Force vet here, (SAC, TAC, and MAC). One of your best videos.
@thinktonka
@thinktonka 4 жыл бұрын
I was a 7 year old child when my parents brought me to the Air Force Museum in Dayton in 1969. All displays were outside at the time! The Valkyrie was my favorite plane that day, B-36 a close second! I have seen this plane 3 times since and my jaw hits the floor every time! Thank you for this video!
@warped-sliderule
@warped-sliderule 5 жыл бұрын
A little added information: From it's arrival in '69 until at least '78 (when I first saw it) the XB-70 sat outside at Wright-Pat. At the time, I thought it was a shame to be out there wasting away. Glad it was restored and put inside where it is a much more impressive sight. Thank you History Guy...
@johnhutchison9782
@johnhutchison9782 Жыл бұрын
It was still outside in 83 when I went to Wright-Patterson. It hurt my heart to see it outside, but it did allow me the ability to sneak past the cables and go up and touch the front landing gear. Something I probably couldn't do these days now that it is indoors.
@fire304
@fire304 5 жыл бұрын
A story I've heard before, but never in such a manner as to be a tribute to the men who were lost. Thank you.
@dennisshoffner5201
@dennisshoffner5201 5 жыл бұрын
I worked at Edwards AFB for two weeks short of 30 years. For the last 20 of those years I was the Community Relations Chief for the base. I retired in 2017. A large part of my community relations work was to run the tour program for the base. I personally conducted from 150 to over 200 tours per year during those 20 years. As such I was familiar with the XB-70 story. I’ve got to say that your explanation of the program and the events around the final flight of the aircraft lost was the best I’ve ever heard. I also grew up in the Antelope Valley area and attended church with Joe Walker. Thank you for your skillful telling. //Dennis Shoffner
@andrewcarter1599
@andrewcarter1599 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Walker deserves to be remembered in his own episode. Joe flew himself into space on the X-15, crossing the Karman line and earning astronaut wings. This wasn’t the Air Force’s 50-mile standard, but the international Karman-line standard that Walker flew above. The aircraft had to be controlled with RCS because the air was too thin and aero surfaces wouldn’t have control authority. In that era largely automated capsules got all the press, and manually controlling a craft into space was considered far to dangerous to be practical. But on August 22, 1963, Joe Walker did, earned his unconditional astronaut wings, becoming the first civilian for fly into outer space. The Mercury astronauts were criticized at Edwards as “not being real pilots,” but passengers. Joe the pilot and his rocket plane deserve to be remembered as America’s 7th man in space.
@raymondsartor9228
@raymondsartor9228 4 жыл бұрын
As a husband to a USAF officer stationed at WPAFB, I went to the museum many times in the 90s. As part of the XB-70 display at that time, they played the video of the actual crash, probably on a loop. I was hoping to see it again. As always, this is a great and interesting video. Thanks for all you do.
@JarrodFrates
@JarrodFrates 5 жыл бұрын
As good as his speaking is, the rare moments of silence by THG can be at least as powerful.
@gibson9516
@gibson9516 5 жыл бұрын
I read your comment before the silence break. Got chills. The sacrifice of those men deserves to be remembered.
@Zalmander42
@Zalmander42 5 жыл бұрын
Took the text right out my hand, was thinking the same exact thing. The pauses are so strategically placed i almost began to tear up. I wish my history teachers back in the day were even half as good as THG.
@BlueBaron3339
@BlueBaron3339 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, articulate silence indeed.
@Andrew-13579
@Andrew-13579 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's one of the things I like about THG. He's a professional!
@KCODacey
@KCODacey 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. When that moment occurred I thought, "He's doing this purposefully. And it's the right thing to do." Thank you "History Guy." Hand salute!
@DefenseInnovations
@DefenseInnovations 5 жыл бұрын
I live 40 mins from the AF Museum and everytime I go I enjoy sitting and taking in the majesty of the XB70. The national museum of the USAF is arguably one of the best museums in the country, especially for air craft.
@sbains560
@sbains560 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you sir I was there 2 years ago What a beautiful plane It took 3.5 days to see the entire facility It was a once in a lifetime trip I even met the assistant to the director while on the floor
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 4 жыл бұрын
We are very blessed to have so many fantastic aviation museums in this country. USAF Museum is fantastic, but so is Udvar-Hazy (and if they ever allow visitors again, the Garber restoration facility is beyond belief). But there's also the Navy's museum in Pensacola, Paul Allen's museum in Seattle, the Pima museum, Fantasy of Flight in Florida. So many places one can visit across the country. Anyone with an interest in aviation owes it to him or herself to try to get to as many of these great aviation museums as they can.
@clintcannon1902
@clintcannon1902 4 жыл бұрын
Is that the one on static display at Wright-Patterson? I saw that on a field trip in high school a bunch of years ago, and have never forgotten the imposing bird standing there...insanely impressive.
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos 4 жыл бұрын
@@clintcannon1902 Yep. The sole surviving Valkyrie.
@clintcannon1902
@clintcannon1902 4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckschillingvideos it's nice to see they moved it indoors. Ohio winters are not good for retired airplanes.
@raymondkoonce5827
@raymondkoonce5827 5 жыл бұрын
I was flying an F-111A flight test plane out of Carswell AFB that day. It was a sad time for all of us in USAF.
@gringogreen4719
@gringogreen4719 5 жыл бұрын
That's a very badass plane too! Never really got the Fighter designation when it looks to be more of an Attack/Bomber style design. It must have been fun to fly.
@raymondkoonce5827
@raymondkoonce5827 5 жыл бұрын
@@gringogreen4719 The 111 was arguably the best weapons platform this country, or any other for that matter, ever built. Amazing technology for a system built in the early 1960s.
@gringogreen4719
@gringogreen4719 5 жыл бұрын
@@raymondkoonce5827 It's a very cool plane! I got to see those at Nellis during the Red Flag and Gunsmoke events. Living on that base you saw everything there. The weekend wheee they opened up the flightline to the public, thise were great as a little boy! The designs were and are so inspiring for anything. I mainly grew up around Fighter Wings so mainly F-16s and F-15s. The Ardvark was a really cool "other" plane I got to see time to time. It was massive too compared to the other fighters. I will ask again, why Fighter? Why not an Attck designation like the A-7?
@raymondkoonce5827
@raymondkoonce5827 5 жыл бұрын
@@gringogreen4719 The fighter designation was not really appropriate, though I did get jumped by MiG-21s a couple of times. Easy enough to get away clean, just pulled a few maneuvers to gain a little room and outran the suckers. The 111 was a lot faster than I ever saw published. Yes, it was fun to fly. Not as much as the F-104, but fun and very easy. And big. Combat gross varied around 100,000 pounds and she carried over 7,000 gallons of JP-4.
@gringogreen4719
@gringogreen4719 5 жыл бұрын
Nice! The MIG 21 looked to be a fun plane to fly in it's own right. Completely different philosophy from western designs. Did you hear about the Spark-Vark that got a kill in Desert Storm? That one is a cool Dogfight video here on KZbin.
@peterhart1966
@peterhart1966 Жыл бұрын
"This guy and his videos", a quote from my then 12yr old son when asked how he was so adept in all things history. He was like a walking encyclopedia without being a know it all. Thanks THG
@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835
@andyrichardsvideovlogs8835 5 жыл бұрын
Best description of the Valkyrie incident I've ever seen. Well done 👌
@malcomlovejoy
@malcomlovejoy 2 жыл бұрын
My Uncle Bud Johnson worked on the F-4 Phantoms early 60's, I thought he did sheet metal stuff, little more than that...He told my dad that the F-4's had a cockpit error that was preventing a clean ejection, with pilots already dead because of it. Him and his team located AND fixed the trouble, later in a week or so a group of men approached them,ALL Phantom pilots ...come to thank them personally, Langley AFB early mid-sixties
@wagner9050
@wagner9050 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 4 sharing!
@bazonka1
@bazonka1 5 жыл бұрын
Another story well told. Thank you again History Guy.
@kaguya6900
@kaguya6900 4 жыл бұрын
Owned the model as a kid, and as a teenager, I went to see the Valkyrie at the museum in Dayton. Magnificent plane with a tragic past. Thanks for recounting it.
@johnhutchison9782
@johnhutchison9782 Жыл бұрын
I too had a 1:144 scale model. Wish I could have found a 1:72 version. No internet search in the early 80s. Only the catalogues at the local hobby shop.
@joevarga5982
@joevarga5982 Жыл бұрын
@@johnhutchison9782 I had the model too, lol. Bought it in the gift shop at the Wright Patterson USAF Museum.
@davidwilliams1820
@davidwilliams1820 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the XB-70 that day in December 1968. I was walking home from school in Dayton when I heard the roar overhead. I looked up and there she was - the last Valkyrie. I will never forget that magnificent sight!
@bobjohnson9820
@bobjohnson9820 5 жыл бұрын
I can't remember how much history I have learned here... Love these lessons! Thank you.
@ihave1god
@ihave1god 5 жыл бұрын
I was raised in Southern California and my dad would take me to Edwards AFB for armed forces day weekend every year. I was lucky enough to see both of the XB70s. Thank you for this great video. It brought back a lot of memories both good and bad.
@sidv4615
@sidv4615 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever see the shuttle land there?
@ihave1god
@ihave1god 2 жыл бұрын
@@sidv4615 No, we moved out to NJ in the late 60"s and I didn't get back to Edward's until 81 when I was stationed at Nellis in Las Vegas and that was the last time I was there.
@sidv4615
@sidv4615 2 жыл бұрын
@@ihave1god were you in the air force?
@ihave1god
@ihave1god 2 жыл бұрын
@@sidv4615 yes, from 1974 -1990.
@keithburch8582
@keithburch8582 5 жыл бұрын
I had a patient years ago who was one of the electrical engineers that worked on this project. He said that from a design standpoint it was an extremely complex and amazing aircraft.
@sidv4615
@sidv4615 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you are still in touch with him
@stocchinet
@stocchinet 5 жыл бұрын
The XB-70 is one of my favourite aircraft design, such a beautiful futuristic plane
@iDEATH
@iDEATH 5 жыл бұрын
I think it influenced a ton of science fiction artists too. I've seen so many "spaceplane" looking star ships from 70s and 80s art that look like the XB-70 or SR-71 (or some hybrid of the two). It's easy to see why, as you said, it's beautiful.
@Sinpsycle
@Sinpsycle 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr? At first, I thought it was the Concord.
@gregwhite4457
@gregwhite4457 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the Canadaian AVO Arrow...1957 and very advanced delta wing. Program cancellation in 59 is still a sore point with Canadians- who were leaders in aerospace.
@Alan-in-Bama
@Alan-in-Bama 4 жыл бұрын
NATO (U.S.) politics ! I'm a proud American, but I have much respect for the Arrow and it's developers.
@arminaskitty3177
@arminaskitty3177 4 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. I think one of the things I’m liking the most is how quietly respectful you are of the lost. Nothing dramatic or overt just quiet moments to observe that people lost their lives in these moments of history. Thank you and please keep it up in this day and age of “glorified” death.
@DavidHukill
@DavidHukill Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this video. The Valkyrie has always been, and always will be, one of my favorite aircraft. It has always saddened me very deeply to know that due to some very poor decisions, 2 lives were lost, along with one the world’s greatest aircraft. I visited the remaining Valkyrie in Dayton with my son a few years back. I could hardly take my eyes off of her. The USAF Museum itself is fantastic, but the Valkyrie steals the show. I highly recommend a visit for all who appreciate aircraft history. RIP Carl Cross and Joe Walker. 😢
@solcalsteve198
@solcalsteve198 5 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful history lesson. One I was sorta part of. My dad worked on the XB-70s while I was a little kid. I was on the runway when the first XB-70 ever took off. I was only 7 at the time, and still have a home movie of that day my dad made. History is cool, thanks History Guy.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I saw a picture of it when I was a teen back in the early eighties. I didn’t know it ever existed. I went from excitement to sadness when the photos caption read, “Picture taken of the Valkyrie seconds before the F-104 chase plane rolled into and collided with the Aircraft, destroying both.”
@Raynl1978
@Raynl1978 5 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to thank you for your content. You amaze me by your ability to make content on anything including political related events without making it political. It's a breath of fresh air in a crazy world
@michaelwier1222
@michaelwier1222 5 жыл бұрын
I built a plastic model of this as a kid. Beautiful plane!! I wish more were built but I understand why they weren't. Happy that there is one left and on display. Thanks for the video.
@davidfusco6600
@davidfusco6600 5 жыл бұрын
I wish that my high school had someone like the History Guy. Everybody would have gotten an A! Thanks History Guy!
@profpep
@profpep 5 жыл бұрын
One senator remarked that the plane had cost more than it's weight in gold. I heard it said that one of the pilots who made the final flight to deliver it to Wright Patterson quipped "he would do anything to keep it in the air apart from pay the fuel bill". The loss of Joe walker was tragic. He was one of the greats.
@cesarebeccaria7641
@cesarebeccaria7641 5 жыл бұрын
That worth its weight in gold comment was when the price of gold was pegged by the U.S. government at $41 an ounce.
@control_the_pet_population
@control_the_pet_population 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it cost more than it's weight in gold when you consider only two were made... The return on design / engineering investment doesn't come into play until you build a few hundred of them.
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina Жыл бұрын
@@cesarebeccaria7641 $35 an oz
@copper-tc6un
@copper-tc6un 5 жыл бұрын
I began watching the first of your episodes with only mild interest, but quickly became impressed with the succinct and detailed way you frame the story. Big thumbs up and keep em coming, from a fellow history buff. Great job!
@susanjohnson6754
@susanjohnson6754 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! One of the best descriptions of the XB-70 I’ve ever heard. Thank you
@blainekelley816
@blainekelley816 2 жыл бұрын
The plane in Dayton, OH sat outside on display for years. After they added more indoor display hangers it was moved inside. I remember seeing it there as a child. It is beyond impressive. I just revisited the museum in December, and among so many amazing aircraft, the XB-70 remains the most stunning at the museum.
@nates9536
@nates9536 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Ohio and have been to the Dayton Air Force museum a number of times. They should just have your videos playing constantly. They don't do justice to the aircraft on display the way you do
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 5 жыл бұрын
Ever make it further east to Auburn IN? The Auburn, Cord, Duesenberg festival & museum has a TON of history from motor development to cars to airplane + battleship + submarine engines & much more.
@johnnysilverhand6045
@johnnysilverhand6045 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from the Dayton area, practically grew up in that museum and remember it fondly. So many great examples of history in those old hangers
@jackzimmer6553
@jackzimmer6553 5 жыл бұрын
The best part is the museum is free! I too, live in Dayton and have made my fair share of trips there.
@RichardCranium321
@RichardCranium321 5 жыл бұрын
@Big AL I seen the one and only 1968 Z28 convertible to roll off the production line (Chevy CEO wanted one, so they made ONE) as well as a 60's Shelby w/17 original miles, title was still in Karl Shelby's name. The Shelby sold for $1.7M and the camaro started bidding at $1.2M but only got to 1.575 & the owner turned it down, said no way a one off Chevy was worth less than a Ford. It was of course a joke, but he was wanting 1.8-2M... well worth the time to go if you can stand the heat. Take my Advice if u go, rent a golf cart, probably 150-200 acres of cars & cool stuff, looong way to walk
@CharlieTechie
@CharlieTechie 5 жыл бұрын
That is a great idea to have your video there.
@charlesseymour1482
@charlesseymour1482 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for laying the blame on the GE managers and not the pilots. They died for a GE promo shoot. True history shared with no bias or agenda. Your site is a golden Treasure of little known historical events. Well done. Signed True Fan of the HG
@WhiteStone21475
@WhiteStone21475 5 жыл бұрын
To simply say, 'Thank you for your service,' of the outstanding men who fill these positions for our Country is not enough. However, it is all I can offer.
@pg1171
@pg1171 5 жыл бұрын
Another exceptionally told, though sad story. Thank you, History Guy, for telling this story. It is by far the best version I have ever heard. May those brave men rest in peace, and their families and loved ones find solace in the fact that they passed while doing what they loved. Thank you!
@charlesmoore456
@charlesmoore456 5 жыл бұрын
This is, by far, my favorite aircraft. Thank you so much for doing an episode on it.
@ronriesinger7755
@ronriesinger7755 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. My father-in-law was one of many engineers that worked on the XB-70 program. I still have one of the pins given out to those who participated. Even that small replica is awesome looking!
@johnhutchison9782
@johnhutchison9782 Жыл бұрын
That is badass, Ron! 🤘🤘
@DrRich-mw4hu
@DrRich-mw4hu 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always!!! Thank you for a dignified review of a tragedy.
@CrusaderSports250
@CrusaderSports250 5 жыл бұрын
Went there from Britain in 99, a truly wonderful museum and I hear it has been expanded since then, would love to go again but it's a long drive!.
@Pseudo_Boethius
@Pseudo_Boethius 5 жыл бұрын
ANYONE who does a history video of the XB-70 deserves my support. You've just gained yourself a new subscriber. Thank you History Guy!
@servico100
@servico100 5 жыл бұрын
Because there are men who dare, we are who we are Thank you, Sir.
@JarrodFrates
@JarrodFrates 5 жыл бұрын
servico100 That is a powerful turn of phrase. I thought it must be a quote from someone, but it seems you are the first.
@voornaam3191
@voornaam3191 5 жыл бұрын
@NPCs Can’t Laugh The feminists have had a huge fight in the 19th century in my country. But most people have no idea what real freedom is. Just like homosexuality, it is none of your business what other people do. Back off, why do you want to know about other peoples private life? Who the fuck are you? People have freedom. All people. What's different for women? What's different for the GLBT-alfabet? There is only one problem, we live in a hardcore sexist society. Girls are supposed to be so flipping different from boys, women and men seldom work together in a 50/50 ratio, the boss is a man, the president is a man, gay marriage is a problem. And that BS has been that way for a 1000 years. So, don't wait for feminists, teach your daughter that she does not have to turn into a weak, timid, clothes and haircuts obsessed moron, married to a fool who rules HER life. Everone is a person and being man or woman has some practical implications, but teach her to be aware of the cultural and social influence and choose for herself what to accept and what to decline. One can comply and one can fight them, be aware what is expected from you. Exampe, if everybody in your villages gets married early and get children, moving to New York and going to university is not considered normal. What do she want?! So, you do not even need feminists, if enough people start breaking that suffocating oldfashioned hyperconservatice society of yours. When women are not getting an equal chance, you can raise your voice, no matter if you are a man. Just watch around you and do a little count, when you do not see 50/50 in quite a bunch of people, there is something wrong. Do something about it yourself. Not only the women will benefit, you will see things are better when that sexist culture has changed.
@MothaLuva
@MothaLuva 5 жыл бұрын
And we are who? Semicivilized primates with baseball caps and automatic weapons. Nothing to be particularly proud about.
@ThatBobGuy850
@ThatBobGuy850 5 жыл бұрын
THG, you have what it undoubtedly one of the best channels on KZbin (and certainly my favorite). Episodes like this are why. Simply awesome!
@timrussell1559
@timrussell1559 Жыл бұрын
Enough cannot be said about those incredibly brave pilots who regularly climbed into experimental aircraft that could(and often did) take their lives upon every single flight they took. We owe the technology and safe aircraft that we have today because of these incredible people. May they eternally rest in peace, and their enormous contributions never ever be forgotten
@makattak88
@makattak88 5 жыл бұрын
The History Guy is one of my top 10 youtubers.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 5 жыл бұрын
History Guy, is the best history channel on youtube. For me in my top 5 youtubers. I wont rate them any closer than that because each of them cover different subjects. History Guy, Paul Harrell, Forgotten Weapons, Bushcraft Radical, Corporals Corner.
@lardee45
@lardee45 4 жыл бұрын
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@Ash007YT
@Ash007YT 5 жыл бұрын
I love Aviation history so many interesting things to learn.
@davasaurthereal4678
@davasaurthereal4678 5 жыл бұрын
Ash oh hey you watch THG too? I saw your comments in Mark Felton’s vids.
@Dave-ty2qp
@Dave-ty2qp 5 жыл бұрын
And it's still being written today. I started working Aircraft in 1962, and retired two years ago, and never got bored because the field continuously advanced. Learning curve was always steep. Opportunities always there.
@TricotTV
@TricotTV 5 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Thought I knew a lot about the XB-70. Man, you put it all together so concisely.
@gkarjala
@gkarjala 5 жыл бұрын
As a kid, the XB 70 was my favorite thing at the AF Museum It has expanded greatly since.If you get a chance, visit the mueseum. Out of towners have often said it is a worthy destination alone.We kinda wrongly take it for granted.
@bassmith448bassist5
@bassmith448bassist5 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best account of this accident I have ever seen. Big thumbs up!!!!!!!
@surfmanx796
@surfmanx796 5 жыл бұрын
Powerful story told very well. The loss of these exceptional men who did exceptional things, is such a truly sad thing.
@Kevin_747
@Kevin_747 5 жыл бұрын
I have two favorites at Wright-Pat. The Valkyrie and the B58 Hustler. I'm sure those ships helped influence my decision to be a career pilot. Thanks History Guy, as usual very well done.
@PintoPopProductions
@PintoPopProductions 5 жыл бұрын
The Valkyrie was one of my favorite airplanes when I was a kid. Thank you for the insight into an accident I was aware of, but only knew a little. Such a shame that two lives and so much valuable pilot experience were lost for such a trivial purpose.
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 5 жыл бұрын
Having visited the Museum of the United States Air Force I have seen the XB-70 many times and I was always amazed at how large and beautiful it is. Thanks for sharing this and reminding us of the sacrifice of these brave pilots.
@ScooterFXRS
@ScooterFXRS 5 жыл бұрын
"...several Air Force officers, ... were faulted for allowing the flight to occur...." You can bet your pay check that if they had refused to do this dog and pony show they would have had their backsides so chewed on they would not be able to sit for a week, in the least. Much better to find fault with a dead man. Welcome to the early years of the corporate military complex. Everything is worth sacrificing for shareholders, including you.
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 4 жыл бұрын
Thinking of The Challenger, not sure it's all behind us. In fact, history really does repeat itself with each new generation.
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 4 жыл бұрын
More that the Air Force Chief of Staff probably thought it was a good idea - and crossing HIM was a good way to end your career.
@simplyamazing880
@simplyamazing880 3 жыл бұрын
People who prevent problems are always unpopular.
@mayoite160
@mayoite160 3 жыл бұрын
not a word on whether those suits ever faced any kind of repercussions
@daveluttinen2547
@daveluttinen2547 5 жыл бұрын
I went to the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio in August 2001; seeing the XB-70 for the first time was surprisingly emotional. It is just an airplane! Yet I was deeply moved seeing that magnificent aircraft in person. Last Christmas season (December, 2018) I took my BFF to see it, for me, again - and I was still blown away. It is a wonderful museum and if you can, go. Take a whole day! Thank you, THG for this video.
@drtizz9354
@drtizz9354 5 жыл бұрын
The Valkyrie was the main reason I would go to the USAF Museum in Dayton. Impressive up close!
@Wildcat5181
@Wildcat5181 5 жыл бұрын
I have been to Lackland AFB, Pope AFB, Charleston Joint Base, and Little Rock AFB and seen their static displays. They are all amazing.
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon 4 жыл бұрын
I'm lucky to live only 15 minutes from the USAF museum and, holy hell that plane is massive. Also two SR-71's (tho technically one is an A-12 but the display calls it a SR-71) and one X-15
@dmutant2635
@dmutant2635 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardmillhousenixon That museum may well be the eighth wonder of the world.
@richardmillhousenixon
@richardmillhousenixon 3 жыл бұрын
@@dmutant2635 I'm not even that much of an aviation enthusiast and I still 100% agree with that statement. It is absolutely fascinating
@michaelcarey
@michaelcarey 5 жыл бұрын
I have always been impressed by the XB-70... a beautiful aircraft. Thank you for this, certainly History that deserves to Be Remembered.
@MegaPeedee
@MegaPeedee 4 жыл бұрын
The silence at the end was moving. A tribute in itself.
@ARGONUAT
@ARGONUAT 5 жыл бұрын
By golly, your episodes just keep getting better and better! Well done on a subject near and dear to my Strategic Air Command heart!!!
@hmarkison
@hmarkison 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your aviation videos and this one is especially interesting. The XB-70, along with the X-15, brought me into aviation. It was an amazing aircraft though flawed. Thanks for your work.
@MrCapi55
@MrCapi55 5 жыл бұрын
What is really Lovely, and Stunning of these aircraft Videos, is the Cockpit Photos.
@Kaptin77
@Kaptin77 5 жыл бұрын
Ive lived in Dayton most of my life and have been to the museum alot and the XB-70 is still one of my favorites that the museum has, that thing is huge!
@johnnysilverhand6045
@johnnysilverhand6045 5 жыл бұрын
same here, I always loved that f4 phantom cockpit you could get into in the same hanger as the 70
@topturretgunner
@topturretgunner 2 жыл бұрын
Being a military aviation enthusiast I remember the XB-70. Having lived in Dayton OH for several years literally across the street from the current location of the Air Force Museum I visited there and saw the XB-70 many times. It is indeed a monstrous and impressive aircraft that fuels the imagination. Thank you so much for this wonderful video on the XB-70. All the best to you.
@kathyhester3066
@kathyhester3066 5 жыл бұрын
As always you are an powerful storyteller; even in your silence. While I was listening to you I remembered back to those days when several times a week the jets would fly overhead and break the sound barrier. Always knew they where coming when water in the birdbaths started vibrating and things started rattling and then would come the explosive sound of the the barrier being broken.
@1Drgnrydr
@1Drgnrydr 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation . My favorite aircraft ever built. Went to the museum just to see it . Incredible museum for aviation buffs
@mongomoonbladder8023
@mongomoonbladder8023 5 жыл бұрын
Two remarkable airmen. One beautiful aircraft. R.I.P.
@Miklos82
@Miklos82 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up about an hour away from WPAFB and have visited frequently. Even while I lived in Texas, when I came back to visit my parents, I'd frequently make a trip to Dayton to check-out the latest displays at the NMUSAF. It was about 3 or 4 years ago I got a most surprising feeling as I drove into the parking lot. I could not see the XB70 that had been on display outdoors. A sinking feeling hit the pit of my stomach- I hoped to God they had not melted it down for scrap. Inside the museum, I found a docent and asked him what happened to the XB70. "Go look thru the window at the new hangar that's opening up next month", he said. There in all it's glory was the Magnificent aerodynamic antique B-70.To the staff of the NMUSAF, I thank-you for saving it.
@sharedknowledge6640
@sharedknowledge6640 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of your better videos. It should be required study for anyone getting a degree in business or marketing. So often bad things happen when senior management, in this case those at GE, refuse to listen to people who know better. This really IS history that deserves to be remembered and could help avoid a lot of expensive mistakes and even loss of life.
@f3xpmartian
@f3xpmartian 5 жыл бұрын
Another side to that coin is the upper brass in the Air Force that was wanting that plane. I believe Gen. Curtis LeMay was one wanting it.
@sharedknowledge6640
@sharedknowledge6640 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Bowman It’s easy to say someone should object to those higher up but the reality is that’s not the way things work in the military. And opposing management is often job suicide in private industry. So management expects to get their way whatever their ignorance and the ultimate costs.
@riverraisin1
@riverraisin1 4 жыл бұрын
As a young boy, I was lucky enough to see the XB-70 at Wright-Patterson in either 1969 or 70. It was still parked outside at the time. I was in awe of the sheer size and complex systems. Even today it remains my favorite aircraft.
@frankieford7668
@frankieford7668 5 жыл бұрын
An incredible Story....i remember hereing it on the news when i was a young man...I do believe there is one error in the Story....The XB-70 gain compression lift from the Supersonic shockwave with the wing tips in the Lowered position....They were meant to be used at "High Speed"...They lowered the wing tips...purely for the GE photo op....because it would look better... Lowering the tips at "low speed"....caused the increase in wing tip vorteces...Which may have pulled Walkers F-104 into the wing...All high altitude Mach 3 videos of the XB-70 are with wing tips Down...
@frankieford7668
@frankieford7668 4 жыл бұрын
@cromwell2007 He doesn't understand how compression lift works...it traps the supersonic shockwave under the wing between the engine cowl and the lowered wing tips...this only occurs at Supersonic speed..and increases lift...which allowed the XB-70 to operate at a higher altitude....The concept was proven "sound"..by North American Aviation....Has nothing to do with low speed flight....The wing tips were lowerd simply for ascetics for the GE photo Op....
@raymondlowry8564
@raymondlowry8564 4 жыл бұрын
My Father worked on a number of projects in the 60’s that had him spending time at Edwards. I was only a teenager but I still recall hearing him mentioning the thinking at Edwards AFB was just what you said- tip vortices pulled Walkers F-104 up and across the XB-70, taking out the vertical stabilizers. Somewhere put away I think I still have the issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology that had the pictures in sequence showing this tragic event. I’ll never forget that. I did get to see the plane take off once- absolutely the loudest thing I have ever heard!
@clayz1
@clayz1 5 жыл бұрын
Good job telling the story. Any kid who grew up loving airplanes and jets knows this story, but it doesn’t hurt to hear another version, and like I say it was well told. Thanks.
@k1m198
@k1m198 5 жыл бұрын
I attended Joe Walker Middle School out here in the Antelope Valley! I never knew about this tragic backstory, though... Thank you for making this video.
@GilMichelini
@GilMichelini 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, History Guy! I remember seeing the aircraft at Wright-Pat when I was a cub scout. I thought it was the most impressive thing I had ever seen. You honored the men well who paid the ultimate price.
@stevenmacdonald9619
@stevenmacdonald9619 5 жыл бұрын
History Guy I'm only sorry I don't have any influence on Netflix or even Disney + You should have your own programme in which you could extend your videos into maybe 30min episodes. I still wouldn't miss one. Your narration is relaxing, educational and never patronising. Your tone, and voice has the ability to add focus, emotion and importance where necessary. You are truly in a class of your own in this field. Even to British ears. If you had been my Professor... I would have attended University 👍👍👍
@mattdaugherty7865
@mattdaugherty7865 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, that was a very powerful presentation! Let us not forget our history!
@cseguin
@cseguin 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't _really_ give their lives for the development of science and technology - not on this flight, at least - they gave their lives for a photo op . . . which makes the tragedy even worse, imho.
@ComradePhoenix
@ComradePhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
I just keeping about that Sabaton song The Price of a Mile, and thinking "What's the price of a photo op?".
@dalethelander3781
@dalethelander3781 5 жыл бұрын
It's called "waxing poetic."
@GBLynden
@GBLynden 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, I work in marketing/PR and the lengths people will go to get a picture can be insane.
@epoxeclipse
@epoxeclipse 5 жыл бұрын
don't get too hung up on the fact it was a photo op, get hung up on the fact it changed nothing and corporate America still operates this way today. that's the real tragedy.
@sssssssspoon
@sssssssspoon 5 жыл бұрын
I've always been troubled by the line, "they gave their lives..." I can't imagine anyone giving their lives with so little to gain as research or records or testing or even a photograph. They lost their lives.
@jrvreugdenhil
@jrvreugdenhil 4 жыл бұрын
Another magnificient contribution of you, the HistoryGuy, to unforgettable historic (militairy) events. I fully enjoy your high quality presentations, both facts as well as style. Meanwhile, I do hope that the relatives of the deceased can value this post too: lest we forget.
@frankenzion0001
@frankenzion0001 5 жыл бұрын
I've been fortunate to have visited Dayton AFB, and got to see the remaining Valkyrie. She's gorgeous. Just sitting still on the ground, she looks like she's about to break the sound barrier.
@jakegevorgian
@jakegevorgian 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifully presented, narrated. Thanks!
@rogerd777
@rogerd777 5 жыл бұрын
I just saw it at the NMUSAF last weekend, along with many other historic aircraft including Memphis Belle and Bockscar.
@robertmonaghan5420
@robertmonaghan5420 Жыл бұрын
Sad Story... I have Been to The Air Force Museum, When I was in the Air force, and have seen That Awesome Aircraft. That being said, You Are an Incredible Historian. Not only because of Your Breath of Historical Knowledge, but bringing that knowledge in a way that Is interesting to listen to. I'm addicted to Your series, and Never get tired of all The "History, That Deserves To Be Remembered" ... Well Done, Governour...
@dukesjeepsandtrails8511
@dukesjeepsandtrails8511 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Dayton and have seen it many times. My dad was there the day the second one landed there for the last time. Very Impressive machine even to this day.
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr 5 жыл бұрын
thank you history guy. I learned more about this crash than I ever did from the ntsb report. Thank you and these heroes for my liberty.
@Skelatorix
@Skelatorix 5 жыл бұрын
Shout out from Dayton! The Valkyrie is one amazing aircraft to see in person. A shame of a waste of life for a brochure.
@thhomasmarks
@thhomasmarks Жыл бұрын
What a great presentation, ... your military motif and impeccable bow tie only add to the enjoyment, thank you
@meltedplasticarmyguy
@meltedplasticarmyguy 5 жыл бұрын
As he stated a visit to the National Museum of the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, OH is well worth it. It is larger than the Smithsonian section on flight. If you take the guided tour it can take up to 6 hours to walk through. It is free and open to the public. I live not more than 5 miles from there and I frequent it often. New aircraft are added constantly and new buildings are built every few years.
@meltedplasticarmyguy
@meltedplasticarmyguy 5 жыл бұрын
Just up the road from the museum is Wright Hill where there is memorial and an overlook. From the overlook you can see Huffman Prairie where the Wright Brothers built and tested their flyers after the successful flight at Kittyhawk, NC. The field is on the base next to an active flightline and can only be accessed by the public with a day pass and at certain times. Near downtown Dayton you can see the Wright bicycle shop where the brothers first designed their first flyer.
@tadroid3858
@tadroid3858 5 жыл бұрын
The Air Force Museum @ Wright-Pat is the best FREE venue you'll ever visit. It's enormous. Thanks for another great story.
@TastyBusiness
@TastyBusiness Жыл бұрын
Joe Walker is one of my favorite test pilots and astronauts. His flights 90 and 91 in the X-15 crossed above the Karman line, making him the 13th person to fly into space (after 6 Vostok and 6 Mercury missions).
@UsherLinder
@UsherLinder 5 жыл бұрын
It was very appropriate to have that extended time of silence with just the shots of the wreckage. A moving moment for a tragedy. Thank you.
@lycossurfer8851
@lycossurfer8851 5 жыл бұрын
I clicked "like" and play almost as fast as this thing flies.
@MeshFrequency
@MeshFrequency 5 жыл бұрын
I clipped the unsubscribe wing accidentally and crashed in to a trending now section. To my luck i hit Return button on time and safley landed in the comments section to tell about it.
@mookzmom
@mookzmom 5 жыл бұрын
You just won the internetz
@nextworld9176
@nextworld9176 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation of an important subject. The XB-70 was inspiring to me in my youth. Today, the pilots are inspiring.
@hunterjones225
@hunterjones225 5 жыл бұрын
This story brings me to tears every time I hear it. While from a military standpoint the Valkyrie was obsolete, it was a monolith of technology and aerospace research. Losing it and veteran test pilots over a photo shoot... I'm just glad that growing up in Ohio I was able to see the surviving sample.
@farmerbobsgarden5554
@farmerbobsgarden5554 5 жыл бұрын
i was in the 5th grade in Tehachapi, Calif. the day of the crash. Tehachapi is a small town approx 40 miles west of Edwards AFB. I got to see many wonderful planes flying over Tehachapi. The X-15, XR-71(when it was still "secret"), and the XB-70. I was in class at school, when there was (what most of us thought was a sonic boom)a boom that broke out windows and blew open the outwards opening doors. We had a new kid in class whose name was Curtis (i believe). He had only been there a couple of weeks. When the blast happened , Curtis was out that open door and running towards his house so fast that the teacher had to resort to roll call to figure out who had left the room. I had never seen a human being move so quickly in my life. A few day later , our teacher informed us that Curtis's dad was a test pilot at Edwards AFB and that Curtis would not be returning to class. I have always wondered whether or not Curtis's dad was involved in the crash, but , more than that , it has always been on my mind about the nervousness of family members(test pilots family)worrying about their husband or father. I will never forget how FAST that kid left the room headed for home and have always hoped his dad did not die that day.
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