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[@steampunk1610]

Seeing Obidiah Stane being a Good person and a friend to howard is a weird thing to see but not as weird as Howard Stark being Iron Man. I never knew i needed this until now!

[@marcusalrand7937]

It’s like Thomas Wayne as Batman in the flashpoint universe.

[@steampunk1610]

@@marcusalrand7937 I THOUGHT THE SAME But unlike Flashpoint, Tony is still alive unlike Bruce.

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

En house of m ocurre algo similar

[@SA80TAGE]

@@steampunk1610 was Tony even born in this reality? I didn't hear any mention of him and I've not read the books. Regardless, Howard being Iron Man is blatant rip off of Flashpoint Thomas Wayne (and also Earth 2 where he resurfaces after Bruce, Diana and Clark are killed)

[@steampunk1610]

@SA80TAGE yeah he appears when Howard flying around to impress the crowd, so Tony is definitely alive

[@SakazakiRyo]

Rob it seems you did this in a hurry, you missed the memory log of the maker and got some things wrong. And it was never said that Howard blew his head off, only that these "enemies" from future did it during their first attack and The Maker thinks Howard made the time machine so he brought him to fix it. Personally I think the most interesting thing here was Latveria and the lack of Dr. Doom. He wasn't even in Maker's memory log, probably because it was damaged.

[@jvanek8512]

Yeah he's been making a lot of mistakes recently. He stated that Black Swan was Valeria Richards when that has been nothing but a fan theory and never stated.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

I think they gave Hickman this playground to play in so, just in case he leaves again, we don’t have to worry about anything of consequence being disrupted. Also, it means there don’t have to be too many cooks in the kitchen who decide to do their own thing and mess up Hickman’s vision.

[@nemostrangesonginthedirt8448]

This mean we won’t have the years of X/ Krakoa Era for 6160

[@kylonbell123]

This probably the most detailed and least vague comment I've seen of yours good job😂

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

@@kylonbell123 Thanks?

[@marcusstewart4141]

I can agree with this 🤔

[@worldender9388]

​@@nemostrangesonginthedirt8448I don't think that's true, he's also writing Gods. Pretty sure he'll come back to finish he mutant vision.

[@crimeon1176]

The way you narrate this video is such a call back to your older videos, it's such a trip

[@jesserothhammer7378]

Ultimate Reed=Alexander Luthor Jr

[@maul_360]

Hickman is a genius during events. Absolutely loving this story thus far. Keep it up Rob!

[@festerino0078]

“Time passes differently in the dome than it does in the outside world. So basically my house.” Never subscribed faster in my life after that one 😂

[@WhiteRaven696]

The original Ultimate Universe has been back since Spider-Men II. We’re just never gonna see it again.

[@TevyaSmolka]

So basically the real Ultimate marvel universe is gone and never coming back, and now this universe is basically a new version of the ultimate marvel universe but not a repeat of the old one which is a very interesting story in my opinion.

[@nemostrangesonginthedirt8448]

It’s better this way for new and innovative storytelling. The stuff that happened truly mattered and is not saved by an ass pull reset.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@nemostrangesonginthedirt8448 indeed

[@cunnyman]

The whole thing with 616 Miles and its whole shabang is considered noncanon now lol

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@cunnyman which is good because let’s face facts that storyline with 616 miles morales Spider-Man is so bad.

[@jjboy157]

@@TevyaSmolkabut also undoes Ultimate Spider-Man which is probably one of the best comic runs of this side of the 21st century

[@octaviocantu7905]

I really hate to be that nerd, Wolverine's son James Hudson also survived the Ultimate Universe after Secret Wars.

[@fin-xr9qw]

True

[@user-xh9lz2hj4e]

u nerd haha

[@SuperRONDALE]

He is? Where he at?

[@macewindu3492]

@@SuperRONDALE marvel forgot about him. He became a Poison during another Venom event, and then fell off the map

[@jaredhicks1370]

Yup. Jimmy Hudson, the blonde wolverine made it too

[@jennyada1429]

Love the twist at the end! Reminds me of the Scarecrow from the Tin Man TV series where he had half his brain removed.

[@dgorsch]

Good show

[@sonicking1525]

​@dgorsch wow I thought I was the only one who saw that show lol.

[@digunder14]

fantastic four didn't get killed, he just delayed the rocket launch long enough they did not get hit with cosmic rays, major difference to what you said

[@bronzetiger6360]

Exactly, What I said too. 👍👍

[@famousthaneus9810]

Here from the future: They got killed

[@Team_Slacker]

5:22 the best reaction for a thumbnail 😂

[@Rodimusprimerib]

Gotta love Hickman, always going down a crazy road that ends in a magnificent story.

[@Dude101p]

I just love how excited Rob gets lol it always gets me excited about the stories to.

[@TheSonSet]

Let’s gooooooo! I absolutely love this channel!!!

[@JamesWalker-gj2wc]

2:28 Oh shit, we got "Tien Shen-Hulk" showing up on The Makers lot.

[@creeton]

he still gave stark no reason to help him.

[@susanwoodcarver]

Enjoyed this so much! I’m new and a subscriber. Will definitely go back and watch your older videos. Thank you.

[@thumbprintkiller7059]

Seems like in all Marvel comics lately every hero/villian has been dying. Spiderman kills the Marvel universe. Hulk kills the Marvel universe. X-Men kill the Marvel universe....Next Captain Carrot is going to KILL THE MARVEL UNIVERSE 😮

[@yaqinmalul6467]

Nice satire🤣

[@marcusstewart4141]

You don't know how badly I wish the MCU could get back to telling good stories like this 😩

[@stephencirilo3515]

So good so far!

[@taiwanisacountry]

Am I the only one who thinks that a man without his full capacity even mr fantastic should not attept to recreate a time that he is not fully aware of because half of his head is missing.....

[@TheLindsayKnudsen]

He at his best with a perfect outline could conceivably pull this off without reality itself disintegrating. Probably. But look at the guy! I don’t get the point of this. Is he intentionally recreating things he knows he’s remembering incorrectly?

[@Jeudaos]

well this escalated quickly

[@UIJulio]

This went so hard for no reason 😂💪🏽💪🏽

[@XXMatt0040XX]

1:41 "No paragon of a better time full of better men." Damn The Maker has some Dr. Doom level lines... I've been waiting for this ever since King in Black ended (Eddie literally says he can see everything but can't find The Maker)

[@Alfareon]

a guy having part of his head blown off is a great amnesia-trope evolution. of course i don't remember, PART OF MY BRAIN IS DISTENGRATED

[@famousthaneus9810]

@0:14 Miles, Maker, Jimmy Hudson, and Bombshell (the daughter/Miles's friend) all survived from the old Ultimate Universe. Bombshell was even in Miles's first 616 comic run. Technically Miles's dad, uncle, grandma, Ganke, and technically his mom survived too, but that's not a hill I'm willing to die on

[@br1491]

Don't forget about Jimmy Hudson Jr!

[@ronfoss7784]

Just a phenomenal story!!! 🤘🏻😁

[@KennyT1998]

Nice, new video right as I sit down to go number 2.

[@SkullyTheHypnoSkull]

I have over 10,000 marvel comics, and this breaks my brain. I just can't deal with all the alternate versions of characters.

[@ampocalypsew3883]

I wonder how wakanda is in this universe, is it the same as the ultimate with them not being as advance but still keeping up

[@locustzzy]

I love ultimate Marvel. I’ve been reading it since it started and I’m glad it’s coming back.

[@justanotheryoutuber3532]

So the maker is making a universe and his actual goal is to unchain the version of infinity that represents the multiverse.

[@Dyenax_]

Im still confused as to why we see earth 1610 peter parker and spider-woman along with the earth 1610 avengers restored at the end of spider-men ii #5 And then we see the maker travel to a destroyed Earth 1610 in Venom #26. Hopefully this gets resolved. Theres an upcoming title called ultimate universe with the tagline "the new ultimate universe starts here" so we'll see....

[@famousthaneus9810]

Basically that storyline (the return of Earth 1610) got put aside following Donny Cates having a bad car accident which resulted in him losing about half a year's worth of memory. I'm not even sure if he's returned to comics yet

[@Dyenax_]

@famousthaneus9810 with the new ultimate universe comics we have the maker rebuilding his own version of it so maybe we'll get some type of re-connection

[@trentonmattews123]

Love the videos but I just read this comic and there’s a couple things you got wrong, the fantastic fours was not destroyed or killed in space, they missed the cosmic storm that gave them their powers because their space shit launched was delayed, and it seems everyone but Reed died in some later event based on the information page, and second the avengers attack on the maker was a bunch of avenger clones from the future, they are not different variants but all clones of each other.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

Dude, Dude, Dude, Dude, Dude, Dude!!! I love #2 of Ultimate Invasion. I love the Ultimate Universe!!!!

[@SpiritOfParadox]

Long Live The Ultimate Universe!!!!!

[@UltimateSpider1385]

@@SpiritOfParadox HELL YES!!!!

[@chrisgodfrey1880]

Except this isn't technically the Ultimate Universe. Still a good story and involving things from the Ultimate Universe, but still very different overall, especially with the changes Maker is doing for his own purposes

[@SpiritOfParadox]

​@chrisgodfrey1880 The one shot after this is called Ultimate Universe.

[@chrisgodfrey1880]

@SpiritOfParadox Well I'm curious how close to the Ultimate Universe it'll actually be, because basing it off the changes of the Maker we are looking at a vastly different universe he is tailoring to his own benefit as opposed to a direct copy

[@press3395]

Love this!

[@DedHedZed]

The Maker is one of my favorite villians/anti-heros/antivillian/hero? He's just such an enigma.

[@QuestionableLogic_]

Wait, so what universe did 616 Miles go to at the end of Spider-Men II?

[@comics_explained]

Marvel is largely ignoring any of the appearances of Earth-1610 between the end of Secret Wars and now.

[@tammydevine4715]

​@@comics_explainedOf course they are!

[@kelvinbrank4756]

Ridiculous how much they be getting punked and are the strongest in marvel

[@nickypool415]

Ultimate Invasion issue 2 ?!? LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOO

[@jordonlewis]

Howard the 🐐

[@o_plays2219]

Oof the possibilities for what this could lead to!

[@mavericklafonn5308]

I'm intrigued by this time line...

[@rudra7615]

Hickman is building a new ultimate universe. This is going to be awesome

[@kylecollins3755]

Top 20 most powerful DC characters hierarchy and redo the Marvel one. I feel like the Marvel one has changed a bunch since you did it a few years ago.

[@kingshadow8782]

Nice!

[@epicjonny155]

The thumbnail with steve is meme potential

[@Elijapoy]

Rob you should cover Iron Man’s current run, the arc going right now is so good

[@johnwright9049]

Earth 6160 so far has some interesting things about it.

[@julioflores5946]

This is only the second video for this series, right?

[@VicDScott]

2:00 same bro. Same

[@Shogun.Seth.]

Love this shit, you should do peacemaker! I’ve been reading it and I like it a lot

[@ZaccheusMukahiwa]

Such a cool story!

[@simonjoyfool7714]

FOR JEDI ACOLYTE 26: ROB JEFFERSON, HEAR OUR CRY CHARACTER EXPLAINED/ MAMMOTH MOGUL(ARCHIE), DURGE(STAR WARS), ENERJAK(ARCHIE)

[@Cameleonbates]

I didn't interpret Reed's injury as coming from Howard when he said it was the second time. They had been talking about the future invading, and that this was the second time that had occurred, and that that was when he got injured.

[@jvanek8512]

I felt the same and I didn't see how the fantastic four died. The way I read it they never got their powers because they missed the cosmic storm. Rob's been pretty inaccurate lately.

[@Cameleonbates]

@@jvanek8512 I questioned that too, then I double checked the document near the beginning that gives the state of the heroes, and while Reed is "controlled" at the Dedicated Library, Susan, Johnny, and Ben are all marked deceased with blood samples kept.

[@DetectiveMaxHamm]

I like this story a lot

[@Cyanidesin]

Hickmans multiple opuses are basically groundwork for the MCU.

[@drummingjedi7203]

backtrack is amazing!

[@BFG93]

Waiting for reveal some how doom helped build the immortus engine

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Imagina si resulta ser ultimate doctor doom

[@MrSa458]

I'm a little confused about this whole thing, but i get the primrose of it so far

[@comics_explained]

What are you confused about?

[@Marx1684]

Reed is so much better as a big bad. I do hope the time comes when Doom puts him in his place as the rightful fool to Reed in all universes.

[@josephalarape292]

I’m confused. During Miles Morales’ Spider-Man: Ultimatum storyline a few years back, they said the ultimate universe is alive cuz Prowler was transported there, but rob is saying it’s dead. What’s up with that,what’s the actual status of that earth?

[@donovanlarsen7982]

Rob’s memory regarding comic book knowledge seems to be waning over the years.

[@MrShika07]

​@@donovanlarsen7982videos don't come out soon as comics come out is behind

[@omargranados7641]

From what I remember (I could be wrong) the universe was essentially decimated but not erased in its entirety as we saw The Maker himself visit the Ultimate Universe again in Donny Cates Venom which was the last time we saw him in proper continuity before ultimate invasion started

[@SocraticMind89]

It was wiped away during secret wars 2015 in canon, only miles and now we know the maker are the only ones from that universe are alive, ICANT tell u from what u read but it might be a scenario were he went to a timeline pre secret wars so idk you know comics? 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@josephalarape292]

@@SocraticMind89 maybe but that wouldn’t really make sense tho because miles only became a permanent resident of earth 616 AFTER 2015 Secret Wars. The molecule man restored miles’ family back as repayment for giving him food. Not to mention that the entire multiverse was restored at the end of secret wars with the combined efforts of Reed, Franklin, and MM. but again idk.

[@SA80TAGE]

If he's recreating the ultimate universe, why change those events? Why stop Spider-Man from existing? Why kill the FF? (killing the other Reed I get, but why the rest?)

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

Marvel love making everyone die in their stories but can't do games with a bunch of their characters dying.

[@joeg4589]

Should've called this one "Ultimate Reed becomes a bootleg Kang"

[@beastlaz]

But the Ultimate universe got restored ages ago, in 'Spider Men II' you can see a new version of the Ultimates, I'm hoping Hickman explains all this I love Hickman and I love the Ultimate Universe, I have all the storys ever publishe in that imprint, and also there were other survivors in Al Ewings Ultimates2 series Hulk, Iron Man Giant Man, Wasp and Captain America were pulled into the main Marvel universe, Cap got killed but the other 4 were last seen flying off in a Spaceship hunting the Maker. Also Jimmy Hudson, Guardian, Quicksilver, Mach Two, and Armor were also pulled into the main Marvel Universe during the Incursion.

[@recapnerd2657]

Wait, iron man managed to blast half the Maker’s head off!? That sounds awesome! Why didn’t we get to see THAT fight?

[@jaystargaming172]

Now this is some heat. Watched interstellar recently so the time stuff is pretty cool to see

[@sinistersmallblock]

@comicsExplained can we get a complete story for TMNT The Last Ronin please? Been waiting forever! And one more request, since it's such a gritty story, don't tell us the story in your normal happy-go-lucky voice. We need it told the way some of your old vids were made, like the first Blue Marvel stories. It just fits the story better.

[@MADBD619]

I’m not sure if I’m liking this scenario one little bit here, Rob! NOT! ONE! BIT!!!!!!!!

[@WillieStrok3r]

I don’t see a link to the first video? Can anyone point it out to me please?

[@HOLLAifYouFEARme]

HOW THE F IS REED MOVING WITH HALF A HEAD??? I didnt think he had “healing powers”

[@kingdon7795]

Hey man you have to live with half a head Hoohoohahahaahaa 😈😈👹👹😜😜🖕🖕

[@bearwitty9690]

🐾 "There's no way to get the Ultimate Universe back.." Except for, UHM, _time travel_ 🤓 derp.

[@Marx1684]

Sounds like potential MCU retooling with the previous influence made by the original line.

[@AbzAden]

Does anyone know the background music?

[@fennec12080]

Are you sure tho? I think he says that FFs flight was delayed and they missed the cosmic storm, not that he murdered them in any way... And maybe i didnt get it, but i think second attempt meant second attempt on makers life, not some timeloop shenanigans - im really not sure on this one, but still

[@darthtreytos6680]

Rob , I just heard you get a massive shout out on Joe Rogan Experience.

[@vergilrules1616]

Beyond omega level: The Divine Creator

[@7OnAtuesday]

Im hoping ultimate peter shows up

[@justanotheryoutuber3532]

Venom beyond carnage beyond avengers beyond and the last one will be taking on the maker.

[@yengthao8594]

at the end of this video~ " It smell like boo shee in here boi"

[@silenceson]

What are your thoughts about Invincible Season 2

[@sieyon]

so he's Rick and Morty-ing this universe

[@bronzetiger6360]

Never said the Fantastic Four were killed. The book says that the flight was " delayed" and the Storm averted. Meaning no FF. The book says " more manageable ".......not Murdered.😮

[@simonjoyfool7714]

Hey Rob, can you explain: Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)

[@MrKravin]

Didn't Wolverine have a son that somehow made it to the main universe? I cant remember.

[@carlgibson285]

Yep. He ended up becoming a Venom and then the writers forgot about him.

[@Jezee213]

The grandfather paradox should just break out into another timeline right? Time isn't linear in Marvel, it's branching timelines so how would the maker cause all those hero's to disappear ?

[@kevinlucas9905]

Reed Richards, Rick Sanchez potato potahto😂

[@shockwavethenewx-man9301]

Beyond Omega Level: Icon (DC Milestone Comics)

[@sethwatters99]

I'm just as confuses wouldn't a time loop fix all of this

[@maximusverhelst331]

Nice

[@GRGC25]

But the ultimate universe does exist, in. Spider-men 2, 616's original miles morales goes there at the end, they seem to have swapped universes. They have an iron heart too.

[@kingdon7795]

Iron heart sucks.

[@margaabelon4670]

Nice

[@Robj007]

Rob...you dont sound to excited in this video. You ok?

[@BennyCosmic]

Love your work, aaand 1st

[@j-rebirth7612]

Hey Rob and anyone else who knows I know you say that the original earth 1610 is dead and gone, but didn’t we see the maker go the ultimate universe in Donny cates venom run?

[@j-rebirth7612]

And spider men 2 Come to think of it

[@thamnas9790]

When is the third issue comes out?

[@user-mf8oy4xd8i]

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