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[@mrboombastic63]

yessir

[@Eggy_The_Egg]

Hey man I think you'd love 12 minutes

[@zalamael]

Just out of curiosity, when you were talking about the performance, did you use the frame rate limiter? As in, turn off Vsync and cap the frame rate to your monitor? I didn't play much of Deathloop, but I capped the frame rate at 120 before I set foot in it, and I didn't suffer the same performance issues (and my PC is slightly potato). My guess is that with the engine being so old, that modern graphics cards can spew out high frame rates, which in turn will bottleneck a CPU that isn't powerful enough (as a result of Denovu hogging it as a resource). I could be wrong, but given the performance issues this game has, and the reports of people fixing it with the frame rate limiter, I thought it was worth asking.

[@thewanderingartists]

@@zalamael yes denuvo must have a hand in this, back when death stranding had denuvo my game would have micro stutters and won't reach 30fps on 1050ti on lowest settings but when denuvo was gone suddenly on medium-high mix settings death stranding was stable 55+ fps.

[@kavishhurbungs3152]

the guy who made prey left arkane

[@SAClassHunterZero]

“This shouldn’t be possible” Anything is possible if you dream hard enough… including turning Deathloop into DUKE NUKEM

[@whirligig_saw]

HAHAHHAHHAHAHH dude you made me cry 😂

[@noobguy9973]

HAIL TO THE KING BABY

[@nomercy8989]

you mean Dark Messiah

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

Those visionaries bastards will pay for screwing up my day

[@KratosisGod]

@@nomercy8989 Hey arkane made that game maybe they decided it was a good idea to use the same AI from that game lol.

[@squxshyy]

AI is brain dead and the game plays itself Game journalist: 10/10

[@trapenoone6904]

That's some game urinalist moment there when they give 10/10 perfect game.

[@mayonnaise8914]

Makes sense since journos are known for hating games that gives challenge

[@hedrocs]

You all know they gave this game a 10 out of 10 because of "mAH blACk ChARactERs, SuCH rEpReSeNTaTiOn"

[@luminosity01]

@@hedrocs the fuck are you on about? no one arguing about this

[@grindkerensky]

@@luminosity01 sure bud

[@MarikHavair]

"It's like the game is scared to let the player make a mistake" - Yes.

[@Vipersrule]

Such a contrast to something like Doom where the response to dying is 'git gud'.

[@bazzy5644]

You could just as well say that about the devs themselves, these days. There seems to be an irrational fear of letting the player do anything on their own. It is just tragic.

[@fuckso2342]

@@Vipersrule Even compared to Arkanes own games in Dishonored on higher difficulty the game was pretty hard and challenging. High chaos runs are discouraged and while low chaos stealth runs are encouraged.

[@Jester4460]

2 words ULTRA NIGHTMARE

[@milkycannon444]

@@bazzy5644 i dont think its devs so much as the publishers...theres a reason why the most successful games arent difficult and tend to hold your hand. Unfortunately people like us who enjoy challenge, deliberate game design and dont mind learning are the minority of people who play games.

[@bullymajima5305]

when Mayo started choking on the game's genre I felt that

[@SlickyGOGO]

A game having multiple 10/10 scores without even being out for a week is always one of the biggest red flags for me

[@QueenSydon]

Hey come on now, the Lust of Ass part 2 deserved every accolade ever made.

[@RacingSnails64]

I was gonna say Batman Arkham City may not be the hardest or most creative game ever made, but it's a very complete package with a great story, characters, setting, music, traversal, gadgets, upgrades, bosses, so on. Deathloop seems to have great graphics and characters and that's about it.

[@Healp145]

@@QueenSydon the loss of respect 2 is one of the best games ever

[@AmonGus-ml1fh]

I mean rdr2 and Doom eternal got 10/10s too and they were absolutely deserved

[@SlickyGOGO]

@@AmonGus-ml1fh yeah but those are also established franchises with credit to their names. This is a whole new thing and right out the gate only a few days past release its got these scores. Rdr2 and DE have stayed at high user scores and critic scores years after release. Time will tell with Death Loop.

[@poposterous236]

What Mayo said about finding the clues and almost solving the puzzle only for the game to hand it to you hits me right in the guts. I've had that happen a few too many times lately with games that I really appreciate games that allow me to figure things out for myself. The big one that comes to mind is certainly The Outer Wilds (NOT The Outer Worlds), that game is a true adventure in every sense of the word. Also Return of the Obra Dinn needs to be mentioned, really one of the best puzzle/detective games ever. For a game that lets you sneak around in a large playground figuring out people's schedule's as a puzzle game, that seems to be better accomplished in the current iteration of Hitman. Watching people play Deathloop got me playing alot more Hitman.

[@giacomogiliberti2673]

Outer wilds was awesome

[@saintallison]

I was hesitant to watch this because of *spoilers* but WOW... the puzzle aspect was the one thing that had me really intrigued. To hear it's made void in the end is a hard pass :(

[@GuyOnTheInternet53]

obra dinn is fuckin mint

[@josephstude5638]

Obra Dinn was brilliant. I'm delighted to see you mention it.I was almost depressed after finishing it because I knew it would probably be a long time before I found a design nearly as compelling... and I haven't yet.

[@Warmachine_23]

Whenever someone brings up Outer Wilds, I just get this melancholic feeling because I'll never be able to play it for the first time again.

[@someoneusedtobeknown2645]

At the end of the "This shouldn't be possible" section, I couldn't help but think "I guess they couldn't handle the neutron style."

[@faaip0de0oaid]

exactly lol

[@yogeshkandare3214]

when a game has 10/10 ratings everywhere. *RUN*

[@ash_1419]

Ok pubgmobile

[@danielcues]

Doom Eternal :D

[@thewanderingartists]

@@ash_1419 ok robot 🤖

[@thewanderingartists]

@@danielcues it wasn't 10/10 GOTY all categories like tlou2 😆😆

[@ash_1419]

@@thewanderingartists tlou2 sucks

[@Frederic_104]

Fun fact: IGN's only 10/10 was Ocarina of Time for the N64, released in 1998, until Grand Theft Auto IV came out, which was in 2008. For ten years it reigned supreme, and the rating given to grand theft Auto IV marked the fall of gaming journalism. It's been degenerating for more than 13 years now, and it is fair to look at IGN reviews and expect the opposite, or read their guides and do the opposite for a more fun experience. Boring people give boring games good reviews, it's really that simple.

[@KratosisGod]

IMO no game deserves an objective 10/10 as it depicts that the game is perfect for everybody which is not true no game is perfect plus I have always been against numerical ratings as they homogenise games cause many times two games can be rated the same but have a very large difference in quality.

[@nseitase9929]

Gta 4 a 10/10 what a joke they are so many more games that deserve a 10/10 more than gta iv thats for sure

[@Mr_G_s_Route_66]

Ha!

[@johnnysaurus04]

10/10 to me means it has something on a personal level to the reviewer, not that it IS perfect. Such game to me would be Super Mario Galaxy. It's not perfect, but it means a lot to me, & throwing out 10/10s puts down the value of it.

[@booopoop9767]

@@nseitase9929 cap

[@kyleparsons145]

The fact this is considered a 10/10 just goes to show how stale the gaming industry is at the moment

[@sunekoo]

God you nailed it. Couldn’t agree more

[@acehood9953]

I genuinley don't think it's legitimately a 10/10. I'm sure reviewers are just paid out to promote the game nowadays. That's why channels such as Mayo and Synthetic Man are so valuable.

[@angusmcarthur7295]

2021 has got to be driest year for games

[@Someone89a]

Exactly - in my books it’s an 7/8 out of 10, but if all I had been playing was triple A microtransaction crap then maybe I’d be wayyyy more generous…. But then how did Prey not get perfect scores??

[@JP_LDN582]

Na it shows that they just pay for good reviews. To have ZERO negatives is just a joke.

[@Mark-fc7tu]

Wasn't too excited for the premise myself, but it's nice to hear people talk about the point of game design that official reviewers don't talk about.

[@bigmack70]

It's funny... Any time "mainstream" outlets all throw 10/10s at a game, I immediately stay away until others can review it... The last game I loved that got 10/10s thrown at it was witcher 3 and that was 6 years ago

[@scottroxford5715]

Yeah let the journos sling their shit until the big boys come out.

[@keanuxu5435]

We were all worried about TLOU2

[@manhphuc4335]

Witcher 3 6/10, too much open world and story in my card game. Not recommend.

[@GameJunkyard11]

@@manhphuc4335 best card game of all time. Too bad that RPG mini game keeps getting in the way.

[@Sultansekte]

Sadly i found the movement and combat horrible in witcher 3. I finished it, but the story never hooked me, so tbh it would be a 5/10 for me.

[@avatar94100]

I thought I couldn't trust my eyes anymore when everyone praised this game as the best fps of the year and gave it a 10/10.

[@blizzardgaming7070]

Funny how most games that came out recently and those yet to come have done nothing except make people exited for Halo infinite and Battlefield 2042

[@someguy9970]

You’re surprised paid shills are acting like paid shills?

[@iMorands]

I mean the main character is black, it was to be expected

[@westernwomenaretrash9674]

@@iMorands yup

[@reanuali4372]

I feel like you'd might like Outer Wilds if you wanted a better version of the "puzzle aspect".. but it's not the FPS kind of first person game so, hey.

[@loaduscoolclipz5505]

nice nerv profile pic. and yeah outer wilds is awesome.

[@reanuali4372]

@@loaduscoolclipz5505 thanks pal you too to your best girl pic.

[@kameronlavender1478]

Inlove outer wilds so much

[@doommaker4000]

There's only 2 games I'd considered 10/10 and Outer Wilds is one of them. I like other games more, but when I attempt to look objectively, it's pretty much perfect.

[@loaduscoolclipz5505]

@@superbproductions7193 he did? Where?

[@ShiddyKong]

All true but I have to admit it was super fun watching you go around kicking the AI Someone needs to make an any % kick only speedrun

[@Diesel_Budgie]

Dunkey's working on that

[@AntonisVaik]

And the way the enemies react to being kicked is so weird. It's like they're manikins not people

[@Spit1990]

@@Diesel_Budgie I hope this isn't just you stating your crazy desires. Go, Bunkey.

[@Diesel_Budgie]

@@Spit1990 Well like 84% of Dunkey's Desthloop video is him kicking enemies around so

[@Mr_G_s_Route_66]

I was wondering if he was having fun.

[@stevekjr9563]

It doesn't look like a bad game. It just looks like a game I'm not going to enjoy playing. So I won't. Thanks for the review Mayo!

[@misterdewott8766]

Not a bad game. But it's not the second coming of video game Christ like the reviews make it sound.

[@hohohojo]

Looks bad to me. Basic and uninspired with a cool twist.

[@zebos2432]

looks like an "ok" game with a cool premise and a "could be better" execution

[@ShiddyKong]

It’s up for the “Don’t play without alcohol” award

[@shawklan27]

The idiot ai who have the aim of hawkeye ruins it for me

[@MrJhwan]

Never thought universal 10/10s would be something that’d turn out to be a bad sign. Good thing I already don’t pay attention to ign, famitsu, kotaku or any of the other mainstream sources.

[@mishatarkus]

I'd play the game myself (of course, with a pricedrop, and even through alternate means) and make my own call. I dropped into this blindly after being only a middling fan of the Dishonored series and I think this is one of Mayo's misses, similar to his DMC review.

[@trapenoone6904]

That's some game urinalist moment there when they give 10/10 perfect game.

[@mishatarkus]

@@trapenoone6904 Game journos are often daft, but they give good games 10/10s too (see Doom Eternal and 2016). In this case, it was likely an overcorrection after everyone made fun of them for giving Prey abysmal ratings

[@DustyLamp]

I always forget they exist until someone brings them up, and then I wonder how they stay afloat.

[@KaiKrimson56]

@@mishatarkus His Bayonetta review wasn't very good either. I don't understand how he thinks that game is too "defensive" yet he can play Ninja Gaiden Sigma or how like in his DMC 5 review, he ecpects it to give him the other difficulties right away like in Doom when the higher difficulties put harder enemies earlier in levels and are much more aggresive to where upgrades unlocked on Normal Difficulty become necesary to survive.

[@5000Seabass]

I feel you on this one. It’s like they tried to make a first person Hitman game, except they took the worst parts of Hitman (generic enemies, targets with no special attributes) added them to a rogue-lite Dishonored, and completely ignored everything that made both of those games fun.

[@acidix_games]

I could tell how the review was going to go based off the title.

[@KaiKrimson56]

At first, I didn't understand why his avatar is doing the laughing emoji until I saw a r/Games post about everyone's impressions about Deathloop. Then I came here after I read some of the comments.

[@ninjarichi]

this reminded me that we never got invasions in DOOM, maybe not for everyone but I really wanted that feature :(

[@thekman719]

According to id they’re still working on invasions it’s just on the back burner while they do horde mode

[@justingoers]

I really wanted it too. I was very stoked to invade people as a demon.

[@perrytran9504]

I really wanted it too, but at the same time even if it was implemented, this late in Eternal's life cycle would probably mean there'd be a lot more skilled invaders vs. hosts (see: any game in the Dark Souls series.) Also while they did say they would give the option to enable/disable it, I think it should be disabled by default for ultra nightmare runs since it's not something you can prepare for.

[@justingoers]

@@perrytran9504 totally. I also thinks it’s weird that all the early marketing and Steam listings and stuff described the DLC as being stories set between Doom and Doom Eternal. I really wish that plan had stayed true. I really wanted more of that story fleshed out and I feel like a lot of the DLC locations and boss fights deserves that big budget feel.

[@shawklan27]

Rather have horde mode tbh but both will be nice

[@Robocop_1987]

Deus Ex and Prey are my top two most favourite games of all time .

[@rayplaygames7594]

Which deus ex

[@Robocop_1987]

@@rayplaygames7594 Deus Ex 1 > Human Revolution > Mankind Divided

[@Robocop_1987]

@@rayplaygames7594 I can't pick one dude

[@graphite7898]

@@Robocop_1987 Totally can relate. I love Prey and Deus Ex (all of them, can't choose one).

[@fojisan2398]

@@Robocop_1987 Funny how you didn't even mention Invisible War

[@vernaltear]

Biggest issue I’ll have with this game is what Moistcr1tikal said in his moist meter: the ai is complete ass.

[@fuckso2342]

Which is really baffling considering the Dishonored series has pretty dam good ai. Guards have insanely high awareness. They probably rushed Deathloops development to make deadlines on PS5 considering this is Arkanes last contracted game with Sony before making Microsoft exclusives.

[@samanthacino]

@@fuckso2342 It’s an intentional design decision. These people are drunk and high, and know there is no consequences for death. Dishonored was rightfully criticized for being too punishing when getting caught in stealth.

[@mishatarkus]

An aspect of design not talked much is that whilst the Eternalist base AI isn't great - specifically, they have SEVERE tunnel vision, spotting you from a fair distance from upfront but being blind as bats to the side and behind - and a tendency not to chase you, there's actually special AI types, the glowing or gold ones. Scouts can spot you from far away in any direction and Captains also have much better vision, and Scouts will try and snipe you from afar - challenge the sniper on Updaam Afternoon instead of sneaking behind her and see how good they can be at that - and Captains will chase you down and order otehr Eternalists to do the same. The frequency and aggression of these go up with the more Visionaries dead in a loop, which is why the Golden Loop Updaam Evening party can feel a lot more difficult and attentive than the rest of the game. I still think the base AI is a bit *too* poor for Stealth, but honestly, if I had to criticize one thingthat's specially poor, is that I feel this game was designed much more around the combat than the stealth mechanics.

[@fuckso2342]

@@samanthacino I know Deathloop is more action focused instead of stealth but why not make the ai in combat at least competent?

[@luminosity01]

@@samanthacino yet they walk and can shoot stuff very accurately while drunk and high? yeah mate, that excuse didn't worked

[@DoomguyIsGrinningAtYou.]

I completely agree with the fact that Prey is an *extremely* underrated game.

[@rayyanali4471]

For enemy variety they could simply tossed in some elite guards/drones, dudes in mechs, dudes with some basic powers, heavies, dogs, etc even Bioshock has better enemy variety.

[@Jester4460]

Not really well At least the first game

[@patrikmiles9342]

@@Jester4460 That's not really a fair point since even in the first few levels of Bioshock 1 you have machine gun turrets,rocket turrets,grenade lobbers,melee enemy's,pistol enemy's,drones and big daddies which is a hell of a lot more variety than the same enemy with slightly different weapons and mini bosses that you can stealth kill like literally every other enemy in the game

[@Jester4460]

@@patrikmiles9342 tbf you can kill all of those enemy's with a shotgun wich I had a lot They make shotgunning fun

[@justjacktm]

I've been personally enjoying Deathloop quite a bit, but you bring up many excellent points here. I would have enjoyed the option of an alternate mode to choose at the beginning, wherein you actually need to study the information and formulate the plan yourself instead of having it done for you when you collect the write notes and journals. Perhaps this could be done with mods, but even still, it's a huge missed opportunity.

[@ehrtdaz7186]

just disable markers and basically turn off some other hud associated with that kind of stuff

[@Dondlo46]

you played on 1360x768 resolution? that's ultra HD for me, I play most games on 400x300 resolution+lowest settings, thanks to my amazing 11 years old pc

[@Garudan0804]

Giga chad

[@reviewreviews5908]

Than just get a new pc. Easy solution, thank me later.

[@supernova8045]

Buy Playstation it is better than a pc

[@Dondlo46]

@@reviewreviews5908 it's easy for you

[@erykzysk3330]

I used to play on 1366x768 resolution on my old laptop, I thought that was amazing at the time.

[@robrick92]

2 games (both by Spearhead Games) that do this concept well are Stories: The Path of Destinies and Omensight

[@TheMaskedWarrior92]

Stories isn’t that good on his own, and the whole “loop choice” aren’t exactly well executed.

[@pixlman]

Not really? Stories is just trial and error and Omensight has less branches

[@Hypo_Thermic]

Agreed with all of this, I very much did not have fun with this game. Just a slog that felt like every other stealth/adventure/looter fps I've played before but somehow more boring.

[@erykzysk3330]

Oh hey, you again :D

[@Ghost_Text]

Yeah losing distinction can kill the fun zone in a game.

[@juancena6909]

Remind you that IGN gave it a 10/10 only because of "representation" and "diversity". Not the whole game entirely.

[@Nick-kb2jc]

Dishonored: Death of the Outsider got an 8/10 from both IGN and Gamespot, the main character was black. Spider Man: Mies Morales got 9/10 from IGN and 7/10 from Gamespot, the main character was black. GTA: San Andreas got an 8/10 from both IGN and Gamespot, the main character was black. So shut the fuck up, Deathloop's score had nothing to do "representation" or "diversity" or being "woke". It's called an opinion you moron.

[@juancena6909]

@@Nick-kb2jc Except that IGN is pretty shit when it comes to opinion. Take KH3 for example, they give it a 8.5 when it really deserves a 7.5 at most. In that review he failed to mention the *real* problem of the game aside bosses being damage sponges. And remind you that Dean Takahashi is a *certified* game jounalist, the same guy who had trouble getting past a tutorial level in cuphead. This is may not be suprising if IGN, Gamespot and others had these people around. While its true that Deathloop is far from being "woke", but the game journalist like IGN are tend to focus more presentation more than their substances.

[@generalgk]

@@Nick-kb2jc Arkane studios hired Anita Sarkeesian as a consultant, someone known to threaten games media for good reviews. They have the right politics so they get the kid gloves. But if you want to feign ignorance that’s cool.

[@faris1902]

You are one of the few consistent voices in the gaming community; you know what you want and expect out of game design, and your reviews are much more cohesive as you can measure games to your individual standard. This should really be the bare minimum, but it’s worth mentioning bc game journalists’ lack this voice. Everything turns to a novelty for them, and you get bland generic praise, lack of reflective criticism, and an arbitrary number rubber stamped on their “reviews.” Keep doing you, Mayo!

[@hovikarnian6035]

Man, what could possibly be the reason this game got so many 10/10 reviews with the mainstream outlets? It truly is a mystery, I cannot imagine one single thing.

[@Someone89a]

Just a little thing about being “Stuck with what you got” - that’s why you replay missions and learn from mistakes, they don’t expect you to get it right first time. Still I agree that shift is too op to ever be unequiped but Aether & Nexus is a killer combo that would be WAY too OP with shift AS WELL. I feel they should’ve let you switch out reprise - higher stakes for more powers.

[@underthemayo]

If the missions were really fun and the AI were interesting to engage with, that would be a lot more acceptable.

[@Someone89a]

@@underthemayo yeh I agree with you there. Finished the game - loved it, but I don’t wanna play it again…

[@trapenoone6904]

"Dog shit AI makes fooling around kicking enemies without weapons feel amazing". 10/10 IGN

[@michiganjack1337]

Back in thee old days of EGM, this game would’ve got a 6/10, 7/10 and probably a 8.5/10. It’s okay but it’s no Truxton.

[@badgasaurus4211]

I mean, this is a day and age where Last of Us 2 gets game of the year.

[@evrimenustun9548]

There really isn't much point in comparing an 80s shoot em up to a modern immersive sim.

[@androtaz2621]

Nothing about this game merits a 10/10. It's easily the worst offering from Arkane from both gameplay design/execution and technical performance standpoints. Both Pray and Dishonored were fantastic games that were objectively better and yet many of the publications that scored Deathloop as a perfect game gave the two aforementioned titles lower scores. I wonder what criteria this game fulfils to justify such high praise that the other two did not.

[@arepasaxo]

Yes i love PRAY with God always

[@godofdeath8785]

Nah I agreed with critics Deathloop the best game from Arkane personally for me

[@evrimenustun9548]

I mean I agree that this is worse than Prey and Dishonored but to say that it is "objectively worse" is downright laughable.

[@androtaz2621]

@@evrimenustun9548 No, it's accurate. AI/Level/Gameplay design and even art, narrative and technical performance were all better (arguably much, much better)in the previous games. Maybe you should look up the definition of objective.

[@evrimenustun9548]

@@androtaz2621 Nah I think YOU should. Reviewing games isn't mathematics. You can't measure quality. There are many subjective aspects that define one's enjoyment. Like, define me how the fuck art can be "objectively" better lmao. Hell, Mayo himself said that he didn't care for Dishonored and that he was PERSONALLY disappointed regarding the identical gameplay. But hey, keep believing that your personal opinion is the definitive one. I'm sure that makes you feel better about your taste 👍

[@JTtopcat]

Did you ever play prey mooncrash? That little gem most likely inspired this game. Even dishonored 1 and 2 had multiple enemy types. Pretty surprised they dropped the ball in that regard.

[@wanpokke]

Yeah mooncrash was a lot of fun. Arkane's level design prowess really shone through with that one

[@SpartanPrimeDSTY117]

@@wanpokkeI loved Prey, just didn't like mooncrash.

[@wanpokke]

@@SpartanPrimeDSTY117 yeah I get that. Playing mooncrash after finishing prey makes the former feel bad because you expect it to be more of the base game. But I tried mooncrash again after some time when I've moved on from the base game and it became more enjoyable

[@infinitedeath1384]

@@wanpokke I want to get into mooncrash. There's only one character there that I will really enjoy using, because he uses weapons and abilities that fit my playstyle.

[@elysiumgaming2866]

"gameplay that encourages players to develop an understanding of it and build mastery* UTM: *kicking intensifies*

[@wolfwood1993]

I'm not surprised this is getting good scores, there have been like no new games this year and what we have to look forward to for the rest of 2021 is nothing special. Far Cry 6? Back 4 Blood? Battlefield 2042? Yawn. People are just desperate for something. I've been waiting on the System Shock remake all year and it's still not out so I'm feeling that desperation too. Also Deathloop is basically a super simplified version of Dishonored so it's piss easy, perfect for casual players and limp dick journalists. Just do yourself a favor and get Tormented Souls or Cruelty Squad.

[@infinitedeath1384]

I am definitely boycotting deathloop for sure. Honestly the only game I am having fun with right now is destiny 2, but once I get bored of that, I might play dishonored 2 or prey again. Might do something different for once. I pretty much always use a run and gun playstyle, mostly close range. My first playthrough of dishonored 2 was mainly with the sword and teleport ability, with the runes and bone charms that compliment a fast playstyle. High mobility high resistance etc.. What I really want to try though, is a completely stealth playthrough. I might have to look up videos for that though, since I've never even attempted it. I pretty much mastered the sword play in dishonored 2, and can go through with it on the highest difficulty with ease.

[@civilwarfare101]

Aragami 2 is getting lukewarm reviews by critics, makes me wonder if I will enjoy the game since I tend to enjoy stuff they tend to be lukewarm on.

[@DoomWar1]

Can't wait to get Tormented Souls in October. I've been playing this game called Absulov end of gods. Pretty odd game.

[@gummibear696]

Im having a great chill time with Sable. If they fix the fps drops, it could be a GOTY contender for me.

[@shmekelfreckles8157]

@@infinitedeath1384 imagine mentioning Destiny 2 as a positive example

[@maxburrill6192]

I would love to see you do a video on Prey: Mooncrash. By the sounds of it, it executes this concept a lot better.

[@adambond8542]

I second this

[@RubyRangerr]

Getting a little envious at your concise clarity here. I got so angry at the game that my upcoming review is a lot longer and a lot more ranty. Glad to see I'm not the only one who had issues with this game.

[@SeriousLeo5]

Am i in the minority here? Because i genuinely enjoyed the game for its light-hearted, almost Bond-esque atmosphere, its artstyle, the music and the surprisingly good shooting mechanics. I even found the game to actually be slightly challenging for me, though that might be because of some of the recent patches. It's far from being the greatest game that Arkane had put out, but still - Deathloop is great game, and in my opinion - more than deserving of the awards and praise that it got. Also, why does people think that Deathloop recieved acclaim just for black characters? The game literally puts no emphasis on this, which leads me to believe that those people haven't actually played the game. Though, i imagine that i will recieve a lot of hate just for saying that this game is actually good, and people are actually enjoying it :D

[@ashyflame]

Okay the game giving you the solution to the puzzle after you find all the pieces is agreegously stupid

[@ashyflame]

Wow got pinned by the guy who hates one of my favourite games of all time That won't make him change his decision lol The game is god of war 2018

[@depressedcheems9961]

GOW 4 is a good game, I just don't think it's a good GOW game. I was hoping Ragnorak would lean more into Kratos repeating himself, but it won't.

[@stephenferro6536]

A few things for people who still want to play this game: 1. If you're having trouble with performance on PC, try turning off vsync and setting your framerate cap to 60. Can't speak for everyone, but it solved my stuttering/crashing issues. 2. Turn quest markers OFF. You can do this at the start of each mission and it helps with the hand-holding problem. 3. Turn Julianna invasions ON. I had some of my most tense and most fun moments in this game fighting against other players. It changes how you think about your loadout and your approach to the mission as a whole. 4. If you want to play this game, YOU SHOULD! I had a really fun time with this game! I agree with some of the criticisms here and on other KZbin reviews (critikal, gman), and I agree it's not a 10/10. But it's not a 1/10 either. And it's not like this hype is going to the 28th copy-paste COD game. This is a fun, single-player focused game with an artistic vision from a criminally underrated studio. I had fun with it, and I think you will too. Also, if nothing else, it made me want to try playing Prey again, so Mayo should like that.

[@xPreatorianx1]

Mayo not realizing major/corporate game journalists are just contracted hype men to sell games is adorable. For real, game journalists from mainstream publications have exactly TWO JOBS. 1) Hype the hell out of a game if the company that employs them receives a big enough check. (Or they receive a big enough check.) 2) To find "woke" topics and discuss them. So they simultaneously destroy their credibility, while also pandering to the individuals who will eat it up, preach it as gossip, and spit it out in the form of new page clicks. (The controversy metric. Meaning, even bad press is good press and results in monetary gain if the take is hot enough.) Any gamer who relies on Kotaku, IGN, PCgamer, et all for "unbiased reviews" is sadly fooling themselves. These publications are good for gaming NEWS. And they STILL screw that up. We seek youtube for the independent, usually unbiased, review. HINT HINT YOU MAYO! The youtubers who haven't been corrupted by corporations YET. (Good rule of thumb is a million subs or less. Anything higher and they've realized how invaluable that hush hush money is, and so pander to it. Million subbers don't do it when they first reach said milestone. But they do soon after. So use some common sense in this metric.) PS: No I'm not blaming the youtubers that made it and are getting sponsorships out the ass, and contracts to give them "freedom" to continue to keep the lights on. Once you reach a certain point, you literally have to be a sell out. It becomes good business sense. The money has to keep coming in somehow. Till you reach the 3 to 5 million mark and realize, destroying your credibility isn't worth a paycheck, multiple revenue streams fixes that. (Linus Tech tips for example. He went legit and even owns up to his fuckups purely because he realized the bullshit ways of the "higher tiers" so created ways for himself to say FU! There are plenty more examples I'm sure but I don't follow big time youtuber reviewers. Besides Linus. I follow his underdogs. Plus mechanic youtubers who can buy a ferrari like it's a damn shit box crown vic with 300K miles. But that's my own personal masochism.

[@scolioreset]

I see Under the Mayo has learned some Rogue Warrior techniques: meleeing the A.I. ;-)

[@parthashankar892]

Damn. This is why I appreciate Mayo. I was really hyped for this game after hearing those top scores but hearing some of this... man, that's depressing.

[@samanthacino]

I’ve played it for like, 50 hours, and love the game, didn’t get any of the vibes of what he is saying, yet this video clearly shows and gives evidence of what he hated and why it’s bad. It’s probably because I love Arkane games due to the studying the environment and finding clues to get extra Shit and lore. I spent four hours on just one puzzle Like he sniped the last enemy, when I found five different distinct ways to lure him to different spots, based on dialogue that I overheard from some characters.

[@westernwomenaretrash9674]

@@samanthacino "I'm a Gamer girl"

[@pepsimaxguy7650]

Mayo These guys gave tlou2 a perfect score so.....

[@ihaveasecret9539]

TLOU2 is a phenomenal game though

[@depressedcheems9961]

@@ihaveasecret9539 Then you have phenomenally bad tastes. I might give it a 5 or 6 if I completely ignore the story. It has nothing outside amazing visuals and sound design.

[@pepsimaxguy7650]

@@ihaveasecret9539 I can understand 7 or 8 even tho i hate this game and how it shits on the original but 10????

[@pepsimaxguy7650]

@@depressedcheems9961 the gameplay is alright but the pacing ruins it,maybe if it had a survival mode or multiplayer

[@depressedcheems9961]

@@pepsimaxguy7650 The gameplay legit feels like every other generic 3rd person action adventure game, it just has satisfying feedback.

[@tonyforshyr9381]

11:26 Dishonored players doing one of those "Freestyle loud takedown" montages

[@TheExFatal]

DUDE I HAD THE SAME PERFORMANCE ISSUES... with re8 I had to switch to a pirated copy so I could finish it

[@torinsmith9867]

A pirated version works better than the retail? That's hilarious, and awful.

[@g1itch561]

Man... Prey Mooncrash does kinda the exact same time-loop thing but way better.

[@fatalmokrane]

No its different, the puzzle to solve in Mooncrash is much easier

[@gilmarmaia89]

I have just played this game in 2023 and I can confirm most of these issues were addressed. Performance is Ok and visionaries are very challenging, especially on the late game. It seems there is a difficulty curve spike the more people you kill during the game. Just try it, the game is amazing with a somehow lackluster ending.

[@ThunderStruck115]

I think Deathloop is decent, but 10/10 is just plain delusional

[@rusty_cheech9724]

Welcome to kickloop

[@warlocke4285]

You can hear the depression in his voice. This is what AAA gaming is coming to.

[@alexm8443]

Hmm, maybe it's not worth getting back in gaming again.

[@Biojack222]

This is why I haven't bought a triple A game since doom eternal. They're so safe, corporate and soulless like this. The only people innovating and trying to make cool games is the double A and indie devs.

[@thewanderingartists]

This is why I'm replaying Gow 3 and far cry 3 and indie titles like Hollow knight and Sable.

[@FairyRat]

Prey lead designers (and the Arcane's old, talented guard) are now WolfEye Studios FYI.

[@eladblaier898]

it's so sad that whenever I see a game getting perfect score I immediately turn back. this is how much the reputation of scores has diminished

[@allpapiodin]

Almost like the scores were because the 2 main front line characters had the right melanin content. We've seen game "journalist" struggle to know what a controller or M&K even do. They can't be trusted, period. I also find it funny, cause I disliked Prey, but am a big fan of Dishonored, but the game felt more like they were trying to combine the two titles together and failed miserably to capture what both games had that made fans happy. I even remember speedrunners of the game hating it as the game was just pretty janky at launch. End of the day, I like the ambition of the game and hope they try again and flesh out the concepts better. Just... ignore game "journalist" and their scores. It is nothing but trouble and scores based of their desires and not an objective look a the game.

[@georgejericho18]

So this is a reminder, a sumup of why I should continue playing Doom Eternal xD xD xD

[@thewanderingartists]

P- chaaaaaaannnnnnnnn

[@georgejericho18]

@@thewanderingartists yep, PChan plays and loves DOOM!!!

[@SourRobo8364]

On this episode of UnderTheMayo Disappointed With Modern Gaming:

[@bagggers9796]

Atleast people aren't falling for the whole "10/10 from James Gurno!!" meme anymore. Fucking Gas Station Simulator is outselling this game on steam.

[@SomeAustrianGuy_]

Well, I think we can all agree that nobody gives a fuck about "gAmE gOuRnAlIsTs" anymore, especially after the Tlou2 fiasco. That's why you always have to look at the user ratings, if a game has a 9,5 in the critics section, but a 3 or 4 in the user ratings, you automatically know it's going to be shit.

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

At this point it should be a crime if your game has only "dudes" as enemies and the AI isn't better than FEAR (Yeah yeah i know there was smoke and mirrors to make the replicas look smarter but it was effective, fun and charismatic)

[@onceyougozach2607]

Even fear had a few different types of enemies, besides the fact that fighting just the basic soldiers was so fresh in each encounter

[@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009]

@@onceyougozach2607 honestly even if it had only the replicas it would be great The way they react and talk is just great It's fun to fight them

[@masterzoroark6664]

Mayo Mayo Bubbaboi I don't care what you will say- don't shait on roguelikes, especially not in my presence. Aside from slight salt- I like Deathloop. It sucks that performance is ass and that purists don't like it for roguelike and loot elements, but I like it. I like the time traveling Hitman feel, the esthetics, even the roguelike elements (I like Mooncrash, the Prey dlc)

[@erykzysk3330]

Ah yes """"""Purists"""""""

[@masterzoroark6664]

@@erykzysk3330 I mean, it just pisses me off. And like, I fkin hope Arcane won't die because of this. They are like the only one consistent Immersive Sim studio with good budget that is alive now. Like one who doesn't have the conversation about it: "Hey I played this cool game by studio A, I like it, hope they're madr more" "Ah, Studio A... They made that one game and then they died, horribly might I add"

[@ukkukuku]

most roguelikes are absolute trash but deathloop is pretty good.

[@masterzoroark6664]

@@ukkukuku I mean, yeah, some concepts ever since Nuclear Throne, Enter the Gungeon and Spelunky get repetetive. Like, sad there are no more FTL styled ones. But well, I still like some of the ETG or NT styled ones, like Colt Canyon or Wizard of Legend

[@agt_pendergast8899]

One of my favorite videos I've seen on the game so far was seeing Dunkey repeatedly kick the rival character to death. Aside from seeming to be set up as an actual boss fight, they can also be player controlled. So I'm just imagining the player reaction to being stun locked by kicks to death.

[@bake-danuki661]

Weird how this game turned out Prey and Dishonoured 2 are two of my fav games yet deathloop just doesn't feel up to par in terms of world building, choice, or level design. It's like they focused more on combat than anything else

[@fireboythestar3455]

If they wanted to focus on combat they would have made ai actualy functional but there isnt anything else the game has so i guess they spent all their time on the marketing

[@connor_the_otter]

Doesn't really sound like you actually played the fucking game.

[@DB-xz1sb]

Also, thank god for Doom Eternal. Its the only single player FPS I can play....

[@hpdekok525]

“Enemy variety is important in a game. If every enemy has two legs and walks around like a man, that’s boring.” -Hugo Martin

[@ukkukuku]

his quotes will be valid after he will fix "no target" and blood punch bugs.

[@thewanderingartists]

@@ukkukuku hehe

[@Deunstephe]

I had fears about Deathloop being mediocre, and looks like they're confirmed. Wow what a disappointment. Thank you mayo for saving my ass.

[@samanthacino]

It’s a fantastic game IMO, but the optimization is horrific.

[@Orange_Swirl]

I have a nasty feeling the next Arkane game is going to be worse.

[@briangallardo5645]

I regret buying this game

[@dnaseb9214]

People got legit payed for the perfect 10s.

[@nhall129]

Yeah this game’s reception has been weird. Like i enjoyed it, aesthetic is cool, gameplay feels natural, concept is great, very Majora’s Mask like. It’s fun and unique, and i love that. But 10/10??? I don’t know about all that. The execution feels all over the place.

[@Nick-kb2jc]

Curious, do you think that Breath of the Wild and Red Dead Redemption 2 are 10/10 games?

[@nhall129]

@@Nick-kb2jc honestly no. For me, 10/10 games tend to be games with a more focused scope Deathloop has that focused scope but idk it didnt click with me

[@Nick-kb2jc]

@@nhall129 Gotcha. I was just wondering because I don't remember people being this upset when IGN gave those games 10/10. And I don't think either of those games deserved it, at all. Especially not RDR2. I personally don't think Deathloop is 10/10 either, but I did have a blast with it and do think it deserves praise. Edit: Not saying you were upset by it. I was referring to the general reception of Deathloop by gamers.

[@nhall129]

@@Nick-kb2jc oh don’t worry you’re good. Nah, i get that though. I’m kinda surprised just cuz that type of universal praise isnt expected for this type of game, but i def think it’s a good thing that a unique game like this is getting that praise. I could do without the “looter shooter” aspects but its definitely a game worth playing. And definitely a good sign for the studio behind the game

[@Nick-kb2jc]

@@nhall129 I definitely agree with you about the smaller scope = better game. An example of a 10/10 game for me would be Portal 2. I legitimately can’t find a fault with that game. It is relatively small in scope and everything it sets out to do, it does it extremely well.

[@Brawler1216]

4:18 was like mega dishonored vibes because in order to not kill your special targets you needed to find out ways around killing them to ruin their reputation or expose them so you could get the “no kill run” That’s actually really cool in my opinion they have that as a huge dishonored 1-2 person, didn’t care for the last one but haven’t really played too much of it.

[@WillYazdani]

Mayo I think you should take a look at Cruelty Squad. It’s an abstract immersive sim with decent mechanics and challenging gameplay.

[@Scrieprinmine]

Yeaaaaahh

[@beetheimmortal]

I second this, Cruelty Squad is incredibly mental

[@patricktheawesomeTV]

Also the AI is lovingly terrible instead of just terrible terrible

[@Qballiz2kool]

“Acane studios is now doing the whole blue, purple, gold weapon rarity thing that you see everywhere else.” Wow, that really puts what they did in Redfall into perspective, because they did THAT EXACT LOOTER-SHOOTER RARITY THING, for whatever reason. Looter shooters as a game design aren’t bad, you just REALLY have to make the color coded weapons the player picks up interesting, and meaningful, ala the Borderlands series, *in that game you could find a machine gun that shoots grenades, a rocket launcher that shoots 3 or more purple mini nukes, an automatic shotgun that shoots front AND sideways when you fire it, etc.* Long story short, interesting loot is what keeps players playing a looter shooter, if you don’t have that, and everything else around your game isn’t that great, you’ve already failed.

[@HYPERPEACE]

I suppose this is what happens when corporations overhype a game, only to leave it unfinished and untested. Glad you made this review because a friend recommended it to me, but it sounds boring. Also, games journalist aren't really challenge gamers. There's two types of gamers I know, it's challengers, and casuals. The journalists are casuals.

[@Someone89a]

I was originally disagreeing massively with your review, but as you went on, I really started to agree… the AI, enemies, the fights… it’s thin. It’s too easy to run gun. I have many issues with the review, but you do make some really really good points. It’s a stealth dishonoured-like rogue-like, but it’s nowhere near as good as prey or Dishonoured 1. But it’s still a very enjoyable 22 hours as a stealth game.

[@plaguedoctor2286]

11:26 reminds me of Postal 2 lmao. Also, I was not expecting Mayo saying Prey is probably a 8/10, but I agree.

[@underthemayo]

It's far from a perfect game. But it's special, you know?

[@plaguedoctor2286]

@@underthemayo Yeah. Honestly my problems with Prey were mostly performance issues as my pc is pretty old, but that's not even the game's fault. There are some sections though that I disliked very much, like when you need to get to the plane and there are respawning robots every time you destroy one. I got stuck there for some time but managed to go forward. I just feel a bit guilty for not paying too much attention to the story as I was watching the final cutscene. Will definetly replay when I get a new pc.

[@joaovasco3059]

Only now Im playing it, and I have to say, Im having a blast. Is a realy cool game, no mater if it got 1 or 10 out of 10. For me, it is just fun, I dont like to play just games that make you sweat like souls games...I love those, but sometimes its cool to play a good game that is much more "chilled". And for me, this is a damn good one. 10 out of 10? I dont quite agree, is probably an 8. But the reviewers that gave it 10's liked it even more, for me is that simple, no conspiracy theories. Theres no need to hate. Any game, with any socre, you just have to watch some gameplay and the generic info to decide if you want to play or not (unless it is new gta or red dead or fromftware game, in that case you jist buy it without seeing anything lol). Arkane studios make very good games, this one runs bery very nice on PS5 so for me is their game to play, ahead of prey or dishonoured which are also good games. It was just a coincidence, the fact that the specific journalists of IGN and the others, gave it the max score. If it was like a conspiracy, they should know that this would probably bring more hate than love, as it did...and for methis game just doesnt deserve hate

[@Eggy_The_Egg]

U JUST WANT IT TO BE PREY!!1!

[@Piizzachuu]

Who do I trust!? MAYO! Thats who!!

[@lerminprime8386]

I'm gonna try prey tmrw for the first time, The only arkane studios aside from deathloop and I am very excited!!!!

[@Maggerama]

Welp, most of the best people have left Arkane, so it barely exists anymore. This game is a testament to this.

[@AqibA.C.]

I find it odd that I hadn't even considered you playing this game before Mayo, this is cool though, now I actually have someone's opinion to hear lol

[@erykzysk3330]

Cute bird!

[@AqibA.C.]

@@erykzysk3330 Aw hey thanks! She is pretty cute lol.

[@erykzysk3330]

@@AqibA.C. That's for sure! I'm a parrot person myself, such cute and beautifully singing pets.

[@kavishhurbungs3152]

Phil Spencer to Arkane:ur next game is for ps5, don't work hard its bad for ur health.

[@loganm986]

"Outdated engine" It is the same id Tech Void engine as Dishonored 2. Honestly it is shotty work at this point

[@libra_v3]

who are you implying is doing shotty work?

[@bfFAN221]

He's right, you know. It's overtly outdated...

[@loganm986]

I mean, Arkane knows the performance difficulty from Dishonored 2 and they should probably have known to fix before release. Although, I did check after posting, they do need a different engine. It was built on id Tech 5. The same engine that caused problems with Wolfenstein TNO. I resend that part of the statement

[@libra_v3]

@@bfFAN221 I thought op was implying mayo did shotty work by calling the void engine outdated, yes I agree with that statement

[@o27001]

The Dishonored 2 engine is honestly awful and they should've tossed it in the trash a long time ago and switched to ID Tech 7. Sadly it's too late.

[@chazzilla8919]

This is a decent game with a good premise but just doesn't land very well.

[@erykzysk3330]

Not enough effort was put into it, unfortunate :c

[@chazzilla8919]

@@erykzysk3330 yeah, it could've been really good

[@the_mse]

Watch this game get game of the year. I hate how brain dead most of the gaming community has become

[@ThDragoomba]

🤣 I hope not

[@the_mse]

@@ThDragoomba it will. Mark my words it has people of color and a child could play it with no obstacles

[@the_mse]

@@ThDragoomba oh and also it’s a Sony exclusive so get fucked literally any game coming this year

[@ThDragoomba]

@@the_mse alright man, bet. I mean, if game of the year 2021 is like 2020 in which the critics decided the awards, (it was even written in the website, the real award was players choice award which was decided by public), then maybe yes deathloop will win, but if it's decided by the public, like all gotys before 2020, then I don't think so it will win, I think Returnal or rift apart will win then

[@the_mse]

@@ThDragoomba well you see every critic is treating it like it’s the second coming of Christ and most of the gaming community is brain dead and get impressed when a game makes a black dude be the protagonist and plus (Sony) so if literally anything other than deathloop wins goty this year then that’s just impressive honestly

[@DustyLamp]

The game is journo bait. It doesnt need substance, just flash. Enemies are dumb and the game holds your hand so plebs can actually progress and feel good about it.

[@Smallfrye]

The enemy AI is my biggest problem with this game, maybe Doom has spoiled me with super smart AI with tons of enemy types with different behaviors, but goddamn it's like every enemy in deathloop shares one brain cell.

[@ThDragoomba]

Yeah me too. Now every game I play, I'm like why don't these enemies behave differently lol

[@underthemayo]

@@ThDragoomba yeah and people are gonna be like "YOUR COMPARING IT 2 DOOM!". And it's like no, I'm comparing it f*cking Super Mario Bros.

[@mdd4296]

Yeah modern AAA action games are such empty husks. 10000 weapons that come out of a random number generator. All converge into the same thing when you trick it out with doodads. With no situation that make them actually worthy to use.

[@ThDragoomba]

@@mdd4296 they're all like balan wonderlands costumes 🤣

[@ThDragoomba]

@@underthemayo that's damn right 🤣. The fact that people immediately say that and the first and the only thing which pops up in their brain is doom eternal, proves there's not a lot of games out there which have these types of mechanics. Almost every game would benefit from doom eternals systems.

[@helicopter2992]

The 10/10 criteria is DIVERSITY

[@westernwomenaretrash9674]

Yh

[@SimonDickerman]

Thank you for making this video. I thought I must have been going crazy, 10/10 GOTY recommendations everywhere! The fact that something this mediocre and 1-dimensional is receiving such high praise sends the message to publishers that gamers want LESS player agency, LESS combat variety, LESS challenge, and MORE handholding and surface-level ARPG loot garbage. Here's hoping more players speak up about this, because if this is the direction most mainstream shooters are going, I'm not looking forward to the future.

[@mdd4296]

Dont worry, truth is high praise from the press doesnt decide if something get made. They are no more than an extension of the PR depts. It's still revenue from the players that decide.

[@thewanderingartists]

As long as the sales are good, the games will hold hands even more.

[@SimonDickerman]

@@thewanderingartists True lol

[@SimonDickerman]

@@mdd4296 Well said

[@flintson2268]

I hate when undeserved amounts of love go to games that barley did anything truly creative and good to get it

[@Craft2299]

Im a fan of the game, so il rebute some things I feel you are being unfair at. "Action ADVENTURE game": You say this is a looter shooter and anything but an adventure game, but later you say how bored you were when looking through notes and making investigations for the main mission... Its an action adventure game, dont kid around. 6:10 "Loadout Problem": You literally have like, 4 maps and the mostly minor changes to learn. Not expecting and then LEARNING from it for the next loop is exactly what the loadout system is expecting you to change up on! 6:25 "Experimentation style that Arkane was good at": Deathloop actually does it better. They managed to figure out a way to Remove SaveScumming, and go with your mistakes and whatever flow you have. In Dishonoured, you had to unlock each ability, and you may end up not unlocking certain abilities by the end of the game. So Ide say Deathloop does it better. 7:00 "Boss fights": I never expected this myself. I expected them to be hard to GET TO, not fight. And that makes sense, especially considering the HitmanVbodyguard multiplayer. And most of them are a challenge to get to before you figure stuff out. 8:00 "Looter Shooter": I feel like you are right at this, but the systems put in place are mild at best. But certain aspects are definitely there for the sake of Infusion-less playthroughs that forces you to use lesser equipment. Having good equipment feels like a stealthy "Easy Mode" they dont want you to know you are playing on :| 9:30 "AI being bad": I thought so at first, until I played a bunch for the sake of Multiplayer. Hitman V Bodyguard 1v1 PvEvP is great with a friend and the AI supplies the exact amount of difficulty for that. If anything, the criticism should be understanding this, but wanting the AI to be difficult without sacrificing it for the sake of mp. 13:45 "If systems worked togheter": But they do. So much of the game is balanced exactly. Fighting out against a good player is a map wide fight, and as colt you will be making mistakes. The maps flow exactly with that. 14:50 "I wanna try something new": Then do it. I feel like this contradicts your previous point about AI being dumb, but are now dangerous and now you are afraid to experiment, wasnt the loadout system the one to do it? Ive def been played the game to death and I am not afraid to experiment. Also hearing what kind of playstyle you opted to in order to win the game feels... uh... like the games difficulty caught up to you. Sorry I cant say it any much nicer, I never had this feeling with Deathloop. Anyways, I am also bemused over the fact that the game got 10. It shouldnt by professional means. In my heart, it is a 10 as I see for what it is in many ways. Arkane always wanted to do a SingleplayerVMultiplayer game ever since 2007 with The Crossing. And they finally did it, and honestly, the game is centered more around it. Despite the lag and some OP combination of abilities, the multiplayer is great fun (With friend). You can handicap yourself with lesser weapons and abilities to give your friend a fighting chance, and the Reprise Colt ability and the map layout etc, all of it makes sense all because of Multiplayer! Ive never seen a 1v1 PvEvP game done so close to being its own genre, it baffles me that Arkane mixed multiplayer with singleplayer. They made a Deathloop shooter ADVENTURE game with a 1v1 PvEvP game. What the fuck?! I need a polished version of just the multiplayer! Anyways, There is a bunch of side quest puzzles and lore hunting that really makes Deathloop interresting in terms of story. For anyone that played all other arkane games, figure more out on Deathloop, it is oddly more important than expected.

[@arepasaxo]

You just trying to justify your buy a mediocre game

[@Craft2299]

@@arepasaxo "Currently 52 hours in Deathloop" Yeah sure But maybe read my comment next time

[@TalkingRaven_]

Yeah, I noticed that all the benefits of the "loop" idea is what mayo disliked in the game. Loadout system is there because you're supposed to loop. the whole point about difficulty scaring players into less experimentation, I think he just wants to finish the game in one go like how you do it in Prey. I just think he considers every run as "Th Run" rather than a "learning run" to test out shit and be reckless. I just hope they focused a bit more on the singleplayer aspect of the game tho. Better AI and more enemy types. I feel like they just used Dishonored's AI on this one, because Dishonored breaks when you go for a non stealthy approach and go in killing everyone. The difference is Dishonored is a kind of "stealth recommended" game, while this one is a bit more versatile.

[@Dingleberrycrunch36]

The thing about arkane is they tell you the next game “is sooo open ended and you can do almost anything you can think of!” When really theirs a couple of nifty gimmicks and voicelines if you cut against the grain with your progression. It usually doesnt take more than a couple minutes to find the fastest route to anything, and stealth headshots are overpowered and oversupplied.

[@freemank8207]

mayo just wants every game to be prey 2006 smh my hed

[@joeycommet45]

2:03 You can't trust mainstream game reviewers. They're paid by devs and publishers to give good reviews.

[@OutspokenWeeb]

Fuck me i really expected the game to not hand hold me when it came to getting everyone in one place for effective progress. This is just, bad.

[@thewanderingartists]

It's like spoiling a book half way through.

[@fatalmokrane]

Disable all quest markers, done

[@TheSuperQuail]

I have more than a clue as to WHY the game received 10/10. Consider WHEN the game was released.

[@grgagrg8129]

Thanks to ypur channel i realised im not getting to old for games. Games are just getting shit, 10/10??? How the hell is this a 10

[@irritablerodent]

Really surprised there's no mention of Prey's Mooncrash DLC. Mooncrash is very much the prototype of this game. Deathloop really struggled to scale up Mooncrash's concept into a full stand alone game. It ended up discarding almost everything that made Mooncrash work in the process.