Debate on Putin's Trustworthiness

Professor John Mearsheimer, Heather Conley, and Ambassador Paula Dobriansky discuss the feasibility of Ukraine's neutrality, the trustworthiness of Putin's intentions, and the complexities of regional diplomacy.
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[@OpentoDebate]

Debate: Should Congress Stop Funding the War in Ukraine? Full debate video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJXXdKyfgK2np6c

[@nni9310]

No, Congress should keep funding the Ukrainian war effort.

[@calanmacleod3948]

That woman hasn’t read the Ukrainian constitution on the Russian launguages and culture.

[@shelonnikgrumantov5061]

Yeh, we are going to be neutral, Zelensky said, but we will not codify this in our Constitution. What an insult, we are gentlemen and you must trust us - like with the Minsk agreements! Pathetic.

[@daredelois8402]

A highly qualified/respected academic ... vs ....a politician & a politician's lapdog.

[@danielandersson1139]

Mearsheimer is Putin's lapdog. He just wants everyone to completely capitulate to Putin.

[@Diwana71]

Prof Mearshimer/Lt. Col. Daniels wasting time with these two psid lobbyist -Paula and Heather.

[@The_Prince_Of_Crows]

Exactly, how do you even hold a debate with two people who want to parrot propaganda tropes and ignore reality? It is ike trying to speak rationally to a zealot.

[@KennyG-jq1fy]

John is right

[@Diwana71]

😂😂😂 Prof Mearshimer and Lt .Col. Daniels wasting with two paid female lobbyist . These two Heather and Paula 🤡🤡

[@goranvujasinovic2888]

I'm surprised that John and Danny accepted to be on this stage. I bet you the audience was picked to support stories these ladies were telling.

[@robertorusmigo3612]

Only john speaks logic ..and that's another word for realism. LOGIC

[@Diwana71]

Rational actor model of IR /Realism . But these two females are paid lobbyist doing their job. 🎉🎉

[@alvinseah5423]

Can you also tell us whether Biden can be trusted? Trump? Boris Johnson? Hello?

[@seanmoran2743]

Of course there not to be trusted Power isn’t to be trusted

[@benijung9009]

This two lady's don't know what they are talking about.....

[@indikamudalige8682]

Jokes. it was already in the Ukraine constitution. What Zelensky did is that he removed that when he came to power by the direction of West 😅

[@dwl3006]

Why would Zelensky remove NATO aspiration from the Ukrainian constitution?

[@danwright1794]

@@dwl3006@dw. Why would Victoria newlamd be handing out cookies in 2014 ?

[@dwl3006]

@@danwright1794 Zelensky wanted to join NATO, so it doesn't make sense that he would remove it from the constitution.

[@sheephillkennel8602]

in 2011 mearsheimer published: "Why Leaders Lie: The Truth about Lying in International Relations"

[@alphabravo0]

"We don't have to go into NATO" - "Codifying that in your constitution" - "Excuse me, we are sovereign country, we are not gonna codify anything in our constitution". In Ukrainian declaration of sovereignty in 1990 status of military neutrality is codified (and 1991 declaration of Ukrainian independence referred to that declaration of sovereignty). Moreover, military neutrality is also codified in Austrian constitution (and it was the condition of end of Allied occupation of Austria in 1955). In 1815 Switzerland was recognized as neutral country by other countries including Russia. So it's normal that country is recognized by its neighbor only based on some key condition (like military neutrality).

[@shakir-ulhassan3133]

Threat inflation, and hyper sensitivity

[@crisdangerous1]

Trusting Putin is irrelvant but taking him / the Russians serious could have avoid this catastrophe.

[@BrianMcInnis87]

And next up we have debate on the sun's chilliness.

[@Footyfan88]

Mearshimer = GOAT

[@johnbuggy9121]

anyone else think theres a correlation between the increase in the number of females in washingtons foreign policy planning and the decline of the US?

[@mad_politics]

last speaker is absolutely wrong on her point because NATO membership was in their new constitution…… whats the point of offering something when institutionally the path was set the other way

[@mwambaajanifearsYAH]

How do i watch this debate?

[@OpentoDebate]

Hi, the full debate link is in the description. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJXXdKyfgK2np6c

[@duncansmith7562]

Post Minsk Agreements, it's not Putin's trustworthiness that's up for question, but the trustworthiness of Western leaders. Personally, with the remarkably low levels of corruption in Ukraine, I would be happy to trust the word of any Ukrainian official.

[@barumbadum]

Where can we find full version

[@OpentoDebate]

Hi, the full debate link is in the description. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJXXdKyfgK2np6c

[@ellomirza]

Americans sniggering and bumping their gums about trustworthiness!? This is rich!

[@IBACb]

The last person who should call themselves a "realist"... is an academic... There's a saying that applies when a discussion has no bearing on reality... "It's all academic."... Here are the facts. Ukrainians overwhelmingly chose independance from Moscow in 1991. They were given assurances of "SOVEREIGNTY AND TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY" in exchange for nuclear disarmament... Putin broke that promise when he invaded Crimea... therefore, putin cannot be trusted... end of debate.

[@ugvadugvaw]

Mearsheimer is an enigma. Clearly a very intelligent person, perhaps too much an academic that does not realize that reality sometimes is far simpler than his intricate geopolitical games. He knows how NATO work. Putin for sure knows how NATO works. There is NO WAY IN HELL Ukraine will become a member in a foreseeable future. DWould Orban say yes? Erdogan? Slovakia? Germany and France was extremely opposed--firmly said NEIN and NON. Germany went (to use a favorite expression of John) TO GREAT LENGTHS, had a lot of common interests and business with Russia, to accommodate Kremlin To a point where they got questioned by other Western countries. Ukraine is not about NATO. It is about influence and control. About not letting democracy, freedom and transparency to close to Russia (remember the what happened in Minsk when Lukashenka was close to getting ousted, who came to his rescue?). An environment Putin and his corrupt mafia buddies won't survive. They know it and are prepared to do anything and everything to cling on, even fooling the poor Russians into a war that will devastate their own country. Only so that Putin to save his own sorry ass.

[@thedavid00100]

Unironically these ladies would support Israel over Palestine in the same breath

[@nni9310]

The title to this clip is ludicrous. As if Putin can be trusted. How naive.

[@TemplarX2]

Only an idiot would say Putin is trustworthy.

[@doomsday8116]

I think my problem with having a neutral state is that it won’t really be neutral. The other will try to influence this neutral state into theirs. So basically, a non-aligned state with someone pulling their strings. It doesn’t align with democracy. If it was then Ukraine should have accepted the deal before.

[@shatchett0]

You can definitely trust Joe Biden. Not a joke.

[@jaarneal]

Mearsheimer lacks... resolution. His political picture of Russia and Ukraine simply lacks fidelity. He has admitted in at least one Q&A that he doesn't know much about Ukrainian politics, and it shows. I don't know the details of the negotiations that were happening in March and April of 2022, but would anyone be surprised if Putin was pushing for a constitutional reform that stops Ukraine from ever joining NATO? And then in the midst of this environment, the atrocities of Bucha were discovered in early April. All of this was happening... and people still find a way to blame the West by blaming Boris Johnson. The reality is that no one: not Johnson, not Biden, not anyone... could force Ukraine to fight Russia. The lesson of Afghanistan (at least one of the lessons) is that giving money and training and equipment in the billions of dollars to a government doesn't mean anything. It means nothing... unless there are people willing to risk their lives to fight. The Taliban were willing to risk their lives. Ghani's government was not. Ukraine's government, and its soldiers were willing. This is why Zelensky staying in Kyiv, even as the city was being surrounded by Russian forces, mattered. It showed that the government was willing to stick by its fighting forces; that instead of fleeing to some western country (which he could have done) Zelensky and his cabinet were going to put their own skin on the line as their soldiers were doing. And don't forget about the soldiers... they were dying by the hundreds in the first hours/days of the war. And all of this was happening when only measly amounts of training and aid had come into the country from the West.

[@bjchorny]

Trust & Verify

[@BrianMcInnis87]

Those are two mutually exclusive things. Just verify.

[@bjchorny]

@BrianMcInnis87 in Biden's own word 'how many times does Trump have to prove 'we' can't be trusted?' ; to the American Administration it's laughable. Mutually exclusive enough for ya?

[@gregtriplex5878]

mam ,you talkin about politics like you smearing gossip celebrity

[@bhekimpilosmanga1986]

These ladies should go on to the frontline

[@GreenGoblinDK]

The professor doesnt seem very interested in fact😂

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

What?

[@dwl3006]

Which so-called "fact" is Mearsheimer not interested in? Do pray tell.

[@Patrick77487]

Mearsheimer Russian apologist.

[@christopheryellman533]

Patrick you are just a good old fashioned name-caller. No facts, no line of argumentation...

[@joshborja8012]

Mearsheimer is the only voice of reason in this war!

[@EdSurridge]

You haven't checked or are paid to say IMO

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

Patrick the Azov Regiment apologist.

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

Mearsheimer and his nonsense.

[@christopheryellman533]

Do you have a point Filipe? An argument, a line of reasoning, some facts?

[@dwl3006]

@@christopheryellman533 Of course not. He only knows how to smear opinions he doesn't understand.

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

@@christopheryellman533 A bad faith mafia-state demanding neutrality from its neighbours stands as an obvious strategic mistake for Ukraine. Patent nonsense. Putin needs to leave Ukraine. Completely.

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

In Dutch, we call an absurd person 'Flippo';.

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

@@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 In Portuguese, we call a person who thinks Putin is worth the benefit of the doubt an "idiota útil".