Debate || Was Jesus (PBUH) Crucified? || Dr. James White & Zakir Hussain

[@IbnMurrah]

*Zakir Hussein & James White* 0:00:00 | Introduction 0:07:52 | Opening Statement - James White 0:32:51 | Opening Statement - Zakir Hussein 0:56:41 | Rebuttal - James White 1:07:17 | Rebuttal - Zakir Hussein 1:17:44 | 2nd Rebuttal - James White 1:28:04 | 2nd Rebuttal - Zakir Hussein 1:39:07 | Q & A Session 2:16:13 | Closing Statement - James White 2:18:39 | Closing Statement - Zakir Hussein

[@YusufKhan-cp3em]

bro ur timestamping so old videos as well? Why?

[@saladin6762]

Haha Ibn Murrah, you're a legend

[@IbnMurrah]

@@YusufKhan-cp3em Might as well leave Timestamps if I’m gonna watch it lol

[@TheStinkbut]

James white that's is what Allah is exactly want you to believe James white you are confused or you are protraying as ignorant when you keep saying the Quran was written or authored by Muhammad peace be upon him the Quran is the directed words of God revealed to Muhammad and written down and remembered by his companions

[@angelzsymphony4387]

Zakir you seem like a smart guy so I'd like to ask you a question because at the end of the day it's our souls in question, and looking like a fool before man is better then looking like a fool before GOD. QUESTION Was Muhammad worshiping YAHWEH the God of the Jews or HUBAL who later evolved into LAH the god of the pagan Arabs, Are his rituals similar to the PREISLAMIC PAGANS and the PAGAN SABIANS. Did he prophesy in the name of YAHWEH OR AL-LAH Because according to this Bible verse your guy is in big trouble. If any Prophet who presumes to speak in MY NAME anything I have not commanted MUST BE PUT TO DEATH. Deu 18:20 (NO SECOND CHANCE) Eagerly waiting for your response ✝️

[@mihailomikel3341]

If on the day of Judgement the trinity turns out to be the truth, i wont even explain my case and just dive head first into hell fire and probably set an olympic record in the proces. That is how convinced i am that this a false man made concept. All in all, accepting Islam has been the best decision of my life, without a shadow of a doubt. Also, one should respect dr James White for his manners and the way he speaks about Islam in general. ✌️️

[@Murat-2020]

Mikel eclok welcome to Islam my brother

[@pashaj92]

Mikel eclok The oneness of God is so drilled into every Prophet including Jesus pbuh, so for trinitarians to introduce Jesus pbuh is pure polytheism.

[@abdurahman90982]

Lol brother "If on the day of Judgement the trinity turns out to be the truth, i wont even explain my case and just dive head first into hell fire and probably set an olympic record in the proces". good one haha

[@dyassine99]

I hope you you allow me to share your hilarious comment! LOL May Allah bless you

[@tankmorpheus9803]

Mikel eclok agreed Islam is more nearer to the teachings of Christ than any other religion respect to James white probably the best scholar of Christianity

[@mohammedalsubiei7593]

Mr. White deserves respect bc of his respect towards Muslims despite his disagreement with our faith. Compare him with some others who simply insult our prophet and our religion. James is a respectable man.

[@Wgaither1]

Well said

[@raysonraypay5885]

@@agadirand4four347 “unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisee, you’ll never see the kingdom” Jesus

[@soohamdy8538]

@@raysonraypay5885 He is muslim

[@JS-ok4dx]

@@soohamdy8538 Islam came after Christ. How could he be Muslim?

[@travisanderson3920]

Most debates that I've seen between Muslims and Christians are very loud and a bit chaotic. Dr. James White is the one that keeps the peace in all debates out of respect. Check out full debates with doctor James White and anyone else and Mr. White seems to always come out on top sure to logic, reason, and facts. But both Muslims and Christians always think their own wins because we are all bias towards our beliefs.

[@kallmaxi4380]

Names called Zakir are always nightmare to Christians 😂

[@jundean5292]

kall maxi funniest comment i ve seen lately :)

[@JasonAvronSamuels]

Like Zakir Naik?

[@hafsaahmed849]

I agree with you😀

[@One-rr8um]

XD

[@Leguan216]

He quotes scholars, which deny that God and the supernatural exists, as long as they are critical of christians. He can`t read or understand old greek and hebrew, which is needed for a proper exegesis of the bible. Zakir doesn`t use equal scales on the scholar he quotes or his method of exegisis. So no, he doesnt cause nightmares to christians - I never heard of him. White reads and understands old greek, hebrew and he learned arabic to understand the Quran. He really wants to understand it in its context.

[@johndiediw]

Am I the only one that loved when Dr. James was talking and Zakir would crack a little smile knowing he can refute him

[@fauzansyauqi2815]

Lets togather pray to Allah for His guiden to Mr White. He will be a great asset to Islam..

[@SeanR.L]

😂

[@b_aboukar1175]

Sean It’s not something to laugh about

[@SeanR.L]

@@b_aboukar1175 I laugh because I know for a fact Dr. White would rather have his head chopped off than turn to Islam. That's why I laughed.

[@SeanR.L]

@@b_aboukar1175 I laugh because what you said was genuinely funny!

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@@SeanR.L but Jesus is Muslim and paul is the lawless fale Prophet of mathew 24 :11. and JOhn 16 :8 is about Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings on him. the corrective comfortor teaching monotheism and law as Islam taught and so did Jesus!

[@swimswimmergaming7767]

OMG EFDAWAH WAS THERE 😲 I LOVE U MASHALLAH 😄 Alhamdulilah

[@swimswimmergaming7767]

@Selim Sadek when?

[@fahadahmedoo7]

Brother Zakir After a very Long Time Masha Allah...

[@CoachZahabi]

Great discussion. Dr. White is however is committing the "genetic fallacy" several times throughout the debate, he continues to object at the citation of Robert Price (a true subject matter expert) and other liberal sources. You cannot refute a claim solely on the grounds of where it came from, rather you must refute the claim itself regardless of who said it. Robert Price maybe correct about what he is saying regardless of his position as a scholar. Zakir is correct in saying that we should weight each evidence (claim) on its own.

[@abhi__fitnesspbx]

You are utterly making fallacious argument What evidence do you have to support Jesus never crucified not 1 verse evidence that’s silly Infact Quran written after 600 yrs of his death there is no way to verify that thousands miles from event That’s legendary development

[@عبدالله-ر8ف6ق]

@@abhi__fitnesspbx lol

[@phenomenal17playz]

@@abhi__fitnesspbx the same argument we can use to proof that Jesus was not even resurrected from the dead. If you are cherry picking historians aspect that he died by crucifixtion. The same argument can refute that Jesus was resurrected from the dead. Also it's a matter of fact that Jews never expected that their Messiah is gonna crucified. The Messiah would be a victorious figure. Unless if you misquote isaiah 53. Even your scholar bart ehrman stated that, Jews didn't expect that their Messiah will be crushed by his enemies. The Messiah was supposed to be a king and victorious against his enemy.

[@phenomenal17playz]

@Zach Ace yeah thanks for your advice!

[@SoldierOfTheDeen]

@Zach Ace Why is Jesus PBUH going to sacrifice a bull as a sin offering for himself and his people according to Ezekiel 45: 22?

[@Spark46319]

The Christians argue that if you continue the passage it says the comforter is the holy spirit but not all of the over 5000 greek manuscripts of the new testament say it's the holy spirit. Zakir Hussain who's a Christian Researcher who debated James white said this.

[@fiinstrumental]

James, White one of the best debater in Christianity i realy love him his maners. Iwish and pray that Allah guides him to Islam

[@danielharrison1065]

Alhamdulillah Muslim ❤️🇬🇧

[@glasgowblackchigowski6117]

Alhamdulillah ! Praise be to the one worthy of worship, the exalted in might and power, knowledge and wisdom, love and mercy. The one who transcends all things and all matters, Allah! Yea, the lord of all worlds.

[@ismaieladen4814]

I once heard brother Zahir Hussain tell a guy he was debating in SC that he's heritage is jewish, from the tribe of Levi... Always found that amazing lol Brother Zahir is very knowledgable on the subject MashAllah.... Very informative Debate, hope to see more of these debates to come inshAllah. May Allah s.w.t bless and protect our ummah and may he guide us all to sirat al mustaqeem. Ameen

[@nafeesunnisa6960]

you're talking snout the debate with Godwin, that's one of my favourite Muslim debate

[@junikutv1534]

Nafees Unnisa can you tell me the debate please

[@masterofcomputers]

Alhamdulillah: Finally john white meet a muslim who can answer all his questions. Its my pray that may Allah subhanhutala give Hidaya to John white. Aameen. Brother zakir you are mind blowing. I think you were prepared for 2 three days debate. SubhanAllah. May Allah forgive all your sins and give you place in jannatul Firdaus. Aameen

[@jayhanson4735]

Shaikh Mohammed Aqueel subhannallah. Is he dead?

[@monicalewisky4925]

Christian Muslim dialogue chat.whatsapp.com/GLabQmlczzLA51mAySJ1XQ

[@ayubali5779]

such point made me convert from christian to Muslim trust me i could not handle uncompleted and complicated story's AHAHHHAaa aaaaaaa ALLAH IS THE ONE A TRUE GOD AND AND MUHAMMAD PEACE BE APRON HIM IS THE TRUE MESSAGER

[@faisalsiraj9423]

MashaAllah.

[@faisalsiraj9423]

Jesus Christ said and foretold COMMANDED by THE FATHER: BY THE FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM. Radical Monotheism exactly like the Jewish Prophets / Jews to believe in a uniquely ONE GOD - without any partners or equals or like a three in one coffee the abomination of the Trinity - plus believing in the Messiah Jesus the Prophet sent by God, and the essential consistency with his doctrine - the Muslim. The very words that the Father - THE ONLY TRUE GOD - COMMANDED Jesus Christ to say. The doctrine of THE ONLY TRUE GOD that HE COMMANDED Jesus Christ to give. The testimony of Jesus Christ on the Father: - The Only True God (John 17:3) - The Only One Who Knows The Hour (Mark 13:32) - Greater than I (John 14:28) - Greater than all (John 10:29) - My God and Your God (John 20:17) The doctrine of Jesus Christ = The doctrine of a Muslim. (Of course the term Father in the Jewish context. A figure of speech for their times. NOT that God has a literal Son. God has got Son by the Ton in the Bible.) DEFENDERS of the true honor and status of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) VERSUS Christianity more like the Greek and Roman doctrines and the pagan doctrines like "God" coming down in human form and human blood sacrifice that pagans had going hand in hand with Paul's doctrines of easy fake salvation with blood of an innocent, making the Merciful God in to a blood thirsty vampire. The same people making Jesus Christ UNRIGHTEOUS by their position (believing in the fiction called Crucifixion) and making the Father a treacherous back-stabber by their position and doctrine. Christianity actually the followers of Paul. 2000 years ago, the Roman and Greek Empire with its culture and mythological and pagan roots already held the beliefs such as "God coming down in human form". So after witnessing just a single "miracle" from Paul the deceiver they were conforming to their already held beliefs. No wonder when they heard of this guy Jesus with all the stories of his miracles, it was very easy for them to take him as "Son of God" (and this concept later on developed in to taking him as God) as this already went hand in hand with their pagan and mythological belief system. Little wonder that those times and those places and people also had "Triads" and ancient "Trinities" and "God" in threes and stuff. Acts 14:11 When the crowd saw what Paul had done, they shouted in the Lycaonian language, "THE GODS HAVE COME DOWN to us IN HUMAN FORM." Then of course the abomination of the alleged blood "sacrifice" of Jesus Christ making the Most Merciful in to some blood thirsty vampire. Going against the very teachings of the true Prophets and that includes Jesus Christ. ******** Unfortunately, it was the Pauline Christianity and Pauline doctrines, blended with pagan doctrine and backed up by the powerful Roman Empire that eventually won out over the years and wiped out the Jewish Christianity of radical monotheism.

[@ismail.dalhatu]

May Allah (swt) guide you and all other Muslims brothers and sisters Ameen.

[@ismail.dalhatu]

@@faisalsiraj9423 Allahu Akbar ! And they would always deny the last and the final messenger muhammad (saw) because of this ! When none of the jew prophets ever teach God is divine even Jesus him self but they believed paul and left Jesus thinking they are right ! Who among the rest of the prophets ever teach the complex concept of trinity and Jesus being divine? Subhanallah they forgof Jesus said think not that i've come to destroy the law or prophet. And masha Allah Jesus never destroy but him self abide by the commandments of moses where else paul destroy all the prophets and their works Altogethers with Jesus ! May Allah(saw) guide us Ameen Brother i actually like your comment

[@stiffknee167]

Welcome to islam brother!! The religion of all prophets!! Allah SWT the Lord of moses,jesus and muhammad peace be upon them all

[@Original_Master]

My days, Zakir was so well prepared it was just an amazing display... I disagree completely with Dr White's objection to Zakir speaking from a Jewish/Hebrew perspective, it should be the only way we view the early stages of "Christianity," because early followers of Jesus were Jewish and their Messiah is Jewish its only later the Greco-Roman's hijacked and reinterpreted these works, so its way more academic to go back to the Hebrew sources not Kone-Greek... We must understand what the Jews knew of their Messiah from the Torah... Zakir was just so spot on in this debate... jazak Allahu khayran akhi...

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

The problem with approaching it from the perspective of the Jews is that their perspective doesn't even align with Zakir's. Zakir represents that Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, but he was not crucified. However, Jews believe Jesus was _not_ a prophet, but they _do_ believe he was crucified. Their only concordance is that they believe the man Jesus of Nazareth was not the Messiah. The particular problem, however, is that _if_ Jews believed Jesus was a prophet, as Muslims do, _especially_ if they believed he had been assumed up to be with the Father, they would _necessarily_ believe Jesus was the Messiah. Therefore, if a Muslim could adequately prove to Jews, using the Jewish sources and traditions, that Jesus of Nazareth was a prophet of the God of Abraham who was taken up to be with Him, it would prove to the Jews that the _Christians_ were right. I think it's fair to say that makes them not such a good source for a Muslim apologist (at least not in this topic area).

[@Original_Master]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Muslims do believe Jesus is the Messiah? Zakir using the Torah and Psalms for evidence, to see which Jesus is true, either from the Quran or New Testament was brilliant, i disagree with your comment... Did you listen thoroughly to what was being said without bias? Sounds like you didn't with all due respect...

[@REDCAP32X]

The denial of Jesus crucifixion has got to be the the biggest blunder in all history.

[@michellebarromeda6396]

Exactly,a blunder to billions of believers!

[@haikalsafrisam7818]

Stop appealing to the historians if they themselves undermine the miracle😂

[@abadirabdo10]

Nope there is zero reliable historical documents that shows that jesus waa crucified

[@dargombez8289]

bro Hamza always wear his iconic hat even in indoor

[@Ps_platform]

And we love it🤣

[@monicalewisky4925]

Christian Muslim dialogue group chat.whatsapp.com/GLabQmlczzLA51mAySJ1XQ

[@abdulafghan6160]

MashaAllah brother is genius! May Allah triple his knowledge!

[@blusheep2]

His knowledge needs to be tripled because what hes working with now is grossly insufficient. :)

[@elyasahmadzai2]

@@blusheep2 oh somebody is triggered lmao 🤣🤡.

[@blusheep2]

@@elyasahmadzai2 False teaching has a way with me. I'm triggered by it easily. :P

[@soleil3gs]

I have watched Zakir Hussain debating several times and I think he is phenomenal mashaAllah

[@omarfutbol6320]

@Kume Kiage you just mad

[@katib2953]

Yes

[@dargombez8289]

he embarrased Godwin really hard about Isaiah 21-23 after bro Adnan embarrassed him about the prophet david

[@justsendmelocation5068]

The brother is razor sharp. Mashallah Zakir missing nothing.

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@bEn sky i find it ironic someone says a Muslim quotes things out of context when paul taught a new religion of man worship which took centuries to form teh trinity!

[@sd0949]

What did brother zakir eat before the debate??? i need to get some of them before going to gym 😂😂

[@monicalewisky4925]

Christian Muslim dialogue group chat.whatsapp.com/GLabQmlczzLA51mAySJ1XQ

[@javaid2499]

He eats 2 xtians and a fried egg for his breakfast and just like you burns it off ! lol ..

[@dennischanay7781]

Zakir. I am a Christian but I commend you on an outstanding and superb presentation and argument. I had never heard these arguments before. I will listen to more of your videos.

[@lightoftruth1017]

@Dennis Chanay Thank you so much for your honest response. Did you revisit these arguments? Here is just a highlight: ✔️ Mark 14:36 as per prophecy: 👉 Jesus *PRAYS to God, IN TRUST, that the Cup is TAKEN AWAY from him* Psalm 20:6 Now know I that the Lord *SAVETH* his *MESSIAH* ; He 👉 *ANSWERETH* 👈 him from the 👉 HEAVENS 👈 of His holiness, with the *SAVING STRENGTH* ✔️ of His right hand. ******** Psalm 91 11 For he (God) will command *his angels concerning you to GUARD you* ✔️✔️ in all your ways; Psalm 91 15 👉 He will call upon me (God) 👈, and I (God) will 👉 *ANSWER* 👈 him; I will be with him in trouble, I will DELIVER him and HONOR him. ************ No wonder right after the prayer of Jesus with the call to TAKE AWAY the Cup from him: And an angel from HEAVEN appeared to him, strengthening ✔️ Luke 22:43 *To STRENGTHEN Jesus with GUARDING and PROTECTION and that NO HA-RM will befall him* ✅ FORETELLING FULFILLED Jesus *NOT Cru-cified*

[@lightoftruth1017]

@Dennis Chanay The Quran actually makes CLEAR what the Church and the false teachers kept hidden (the knowledge of your scriptures) from you and people like you. ✅ That's exactly why the arguments have resonated with you. Allah (God Almighty) says in His FINAL Revelation - The Quran: Quran 3:187 And [mention, O Muhammad], when Allah took a covenant from those who were given the Scripture, [saying], "You must make it CLEAR to the people and 🚩 NOT CONCEAL IT. " *But they threw it away behind their backs* and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased.

[@rachelfox8359]

@@lightoftruth1017 I'm a Christian, and I respect your faith. :) It has always been my understanding of Saint Mark's Gospel, that although Jesus knew that he was going to be crucified, that he did not wish to suffer such a heinous and painful death. I personally can't imagine anyone wanting to die such an evil and horrendous death. The angels, from my understanding of Saint Luke's Gospel, were there to comfort Jesus in his state of anxiety. I believe that the words 'deliver' and 'honor' in Psalm 91, prophesied of the angel who was at the tomb when Mary Magdalene arrived, to make sure that no one would take Jesus' body away. This also explains in the Book of Isaiah, one of the other gospels found in the Old Testament, how Isaiah prophesied of the tomb of Jesus' resurrection, 700 years before it occurred. Psalm 20:6 refers, I believe, to the protection of Jesus as the central figure of the what most Christians consider to be the Holy Trinity. When Jesus was in the desert for forty days and was being tempted by Satan/Beelzebub, whom Christians consider to be the rival/opposition of Jesus, the passage indicates that he (Jesus), could rely on God and the angels of Heaven for protection against all matters of temptation and evil. Again, I respect your faith! :)

[@lightoftruth1017]

@@rachelfox8359 I'm a Muslim and I my faith is that of a defender of the true honor and status of Jesus. Jesus was NEVER even on the cross. Remember that Jesus made the PRAYER TO GOD, IN TRUST, that the Cup is TAKEN AWAY from him. Remember the Psalm which foretold that God Almighty will answer the call of the Messiah and will save him. Remember the Psalm that I quoted earlier where it says that he will ONLY OBSERVE with his eyes the pun1$H ment of the w i©ked. This is what the earliest Gospel Mark 15:21-26 reads in the translations. 21 A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, and they forced HIM to carry the cross. 22 They brought Jesus to the place called Golgotha (which means "the place of the skull"). 23 Then they offered HIM wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it. 24 And they crucified HIM. Dividing up his clothes, they cast lots to see what each would get 25 It was nine in the morning when they crucified HIM.26 The written notice of the charge against him read: the king of the jews. NOW PREPARE FOR THE SHO CK! 🚩 In actuality, IN verse 22, It’s NOT Jesus in Greek. It is HIM αὐτὸν NOT Jesus Ἰησοῦς The translators have manipulated to try and evade and twist what is there. Manipulating and deceiving to make it about Jesus. So in actuality it is: Mark 15:21-26 21 A certain man from Cyrene, Simon, the father of Alexander and Rufus, was passing by on his way in from the country, AND THEY FORCED HIM to carry the cross. 22 THEY BROUGHT HIM to the place called Golgotha (which means "the place of the skull"). 23 THEN THEY OFFERED HIM wine mixed with myrrh, but he did not take it. 24 AND THEY CRUCIFIED HIM. Dividing up his clothes, they cast lots to see what each would get. 25 It was nine in the morning WHEN THEY CRUCIFIED HIM. 26 The written notice of the charge against HIM read: the king of the jews. In all it’s correct form without manipulation, it is talking about Simon from Cyrene. NOT Jesus. It wasn't Jesus who was crucified. Just like the Psalm foretold. ******** De ception going on to make it about Jesus so as to promote the Fiction called Jesus' Crucifixion. In the footsteps of the inventor and promoter of "MY Gospel" fiction called Jesus' Crucifixion: 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩👉 Paul / Saul the Dec e1ver, the FE ROC10U$ W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus warned about 👈

[@rachelfox8359]

@@lightoftruth1017, There are four historical facts which must be explained by any adequate historical hypothesis: o Jesus’ burial o the discovery of his empty tomb o his post-mortem appearances o the origin of the disciples’ belief in his resurrection. Now, let’s look at that first contention more closely. I want to share four facts which are widely accepted by historians today. Fact #1: After his crucifixion Jesus was buried by Joseph of Arimathea in a tomb. Historians have established this fact on the basis of evidence such as the following: 1. Jesus’ burial is multiply attested in early, independent sources. We have four biographies of Jesus, by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which have been collected into the New Testament, along with various letters of the apostle Paul. Now the burial account is part of Mark’s source material for the story of Jesus’ suffering and death. This is a very early source which is probably based on eyewitness testimony and which the commentator Rudolf Pesch dates to within seven years of the crucifixion. Moreover, Paul also cites an extremely early source for Jesus’ burial which most scholars date to within five years of Jesus’ crucifixion. Independent testimony to Jesus’ burial by Joseph is also found in the sources behind Matthew and Luke and the Gospel of John, not to mention the extra-biblical Gospel of Peter. Thus, we have the remarkable number of at least five independent sources for Jesus’ burial, some of which are extraordinarily early. 2. As a member of the Jewish Sanhedrin that condemned Jesus, Joseph of Arimathea is unlikely to be a Christian invention. There was an understandable hostility in the early church toward the Jewish leaders. In Christian eyes, they had engineered a judicial murder of Jesus. Thus, according to the late New Testament scholar Raymond Brown, Jesus’ burial by Joseph is “very probable,” since it is “almost inexplicable” why Christians would make up a story about a Jewish Sanhedrist who does what is right by Jesus. [1] For these and other reasons, most New Testament critics concur that Jesus was buried by Joseph of Arimathea in a tomb. According to the late John A. T. Robinson of Cambridge University, the burial of Jesus in the tomb is “one of the earliest and best-attested facts about Jesus.” [2] Fact #2: On the Sunday after the crucifixion, Jesus’ tomb was found empty by a group of his women followers. Among the reasons which have led most scholars to this conclusion are the following: 1. The empty tomb is also multiply attested by independent, early sources. Mark’s source didn’t end with the burial, but with the story of the empty tomb, which is tied to the burial story verbally and grammatically. Moreover, Matthew and John have independent sources about the empty tomb; it’s also mentioned in the sermons in the Acts of the Apostles (2.29; 13.36); and it’s implied by Paul in his first letter to the Corinthian church (I Cor. 15.4). Thus, we have again multiple, early, independent attestation of the fact of the empty tomb. 2. The tomb was discovered empty by women. In patriarchal Jewish society the testimony of women was not highly regarded. In fact, the Jewish historian Josephus says that women weren’t even permitted to serve as witnesses in a Jewish court of law. Now in light of this fact, how remarkable it is that it is women who are the discoverers of Jesus’ empty tomb. Any later legendary account would certainly have made male disciples like Peter and John discover the empty tomb. The fact that it is women, rather than men, who are the discoverers of the empty tomb is best explained by the fact that they were the chief witnesses to the fact of the empty tomb, and the Gospel writers faithfully record what, for them, was an awkward and embarrassing fact. I could go on, but I think enough has been said to indicate why, in the words of Jacob Kremer, an Austrian specialist on the resurrection, “By far most exegetes hold firmly to the reliability of the biblical statements concerning the empty tomb.” [3] Fact #3: On different occasions and under various circumstances different individuals and groups of people experienced appearances of Jesus alive from the dead. This is a fact which is virtually universally acknowledged by scholars, for the following reasons: 1. Paul’s list of eyewitnesses to Jesus’ resurrection appearances guarantees that such appearances occurred. Paul tells us that Jesus appeared to his chief disciple Peter, then to the inner circle of disciples known as the Twelve; then he appeared to a group of 500 disciples at once, then to his younger brother James, who up to that time was apparently not a believer, then to all the apostles. Finally, Paul adds, “he appeared also to me,” at the time when Paul was still a persecutor of the early Jesus movement (I Cor. 15.5-8). Given the early date of Paul’s information as well as his personal acquaintance with the people involved, these appearances cannot be dismissed as mere legends. 2. The appearance narratives in the Gospels provide multiple, independent attestation of the appearances. For example, the appearance to Peter is attested by Luke and Paul; the appearance to the Twelve is attested by Luke, John, and Paul; and the appearance to the women is attested by Matthew and John. The appearance narratives span such a breadth of independent sources that it cannot be reasonably denied that the earliest disciples did have such experiences. Thus, even the skeptical German New Testament critic Gerd Lüdemann concludes, “It may be taken as historically certain that Peter and the disciples had experiences after Jesus’ death in which Jesus appeared to them as the risen Christ.” [4] Finally, Fact #4: The original disciples suddenly and sincerely came to believe that Jesus was risen from the dead despite their having every predisposition to the contrary. Think of the situation the disciples faced following Jesus’ crucifixion: 1. Their leader was dead. And Jewish Messianic expectations had no idea of a Messiah who, instead of triumphing over Israel’s enemies, would be shamefully executed by them as a criminal. 2. Jewish beliefs about the afterlife precluded anyone’s rising from the dead to glory and immortality before the general resurrection of the dead at the end of the world.

[@alzabur6330]

I don’t see how Christians can believe that Jesus die for their sins after this, if they still do then they are blind and very lost May Allah swt guide us all

[@kev-dm5388]

To do that is to reject what history told us and to adopt interpretation from 600 years later and hudreds of miles away by person who is not eyewitness. To be honest that's require tons of faith which I don't have I'm sure many christian won't immediately abandon their religion, there many more debates christian vs muslim in youtube.

[@alzabur6330]

@@kev-dm5388 because they have too much pride, if you see the truth right infront your face and you still dont want to accept then u are insincere and you know what... you are not hurting no one or doing it to benefit no one its u who will be the loser, at the Holy Quran predicts that there will be pple like that

[@kev-dm5388]

@@alzabur6330 I still haven't see the truth crystal clear. After watching the debates you probaby realize that Isah 53 goes untouched He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his *death*, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. Isaiah 53:9 NIV isaiah.bible/isaiah-53-9 Isah 53 is a mesianic text, many quotation of it is in the new testament (just check bible app if you have). The person in here is extremely similar in description on Jesus as christian believe. Zakir quote many old testament verse from psalms but many of them are not quoted directly in new testament, so I can just say Zakir is cherry picking. Not only that he quoted also books of hebrew to support his position. But then Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that *by his death* he might break the power of him who holds the power of death-that is, the devil- Hebrews 2:14 NIV hebrews.bible/hebrews-2-14 So far, what I see is inconsistency in quoting books to support you position

[@Username_21909]

James white is just preaching most of the debate

[@section-voi]

Which is a good thing if only you could just opening listen to him again.

[@bstlybengali]

V.O. Ihejirika I think what shemoy is saying is that as rational human beings we should not accept blind faith (preaching). We should justify faith with reason not more faith. Please do not let go of your reason and rationality, it is your frame of reference in figuring out which book is indeed from the Creator.

[@abhmd4481]

@@section-voi preaching won't help him in debates

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@@section-voi but Jesus is Muslim and paul is the lawless fale Prophet of mathew 24 :11. and JOhn 16 :8 is about Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings on him. the corrective comfortor teaching monotheism and law as Islam taught and so did Jesus!

[@fiveSolas879]

@@abhmd4481 The truth of scripture cannot be debated. God has spoken, islam is false

[@iliaschannel3646]

13:16 james white said " jesus died outside jerusalem" 49:44 "zakir said " jesus made a claim that is impossible for him to die outisde jerusalem" yet the person who died in the cross died outside jerusalem ... the surpise in 1:14:14 james white said " same way inside ,outside jerusalem" dr james white is willing to deffend his faith by any means even by justifying something wrong ( the crucifixion) with another wrong thing (same way inside , outside jereusalem). by the way this is just one point.. still others ignored or justified by false meanings to suit his belief .

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

I agree that he didn't spend time on this; I wish he'd been able to respond directly after Zakir's 2nd Rebuttal where he re-raised the issue. It's odd Zakir used it, because, if he were correct in his reading, it would mean _Muhammad_ was not God's prophet! [First paragraph below: context -- Second paragraph below: the Christian meaning explained -- Last paragraph below: the conflict between Zakir's reading and the Quran & the concordance of the Christian reading with the Quran] You can read in Luke that Jesus was preaching in the territory of King Herod when this verse took place. At the end of one of his sermons, Luke 13:31 says, "At that very hour some Pharisees came and said to him, 'Get away from here, for Herod wants to kill you.'" In case you don't know, the Pharisees were (with some exceptions, as with all people) very legalistic Jews, who would twist, exploit, and expand the law with additional texts. They would use their power and the "law" as they said it was to punish and subjugate others, but they thought _very_ highly of themselves (and thought God did, too). Jesus' response, from Luke 13:32-33, was, “Go and tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I finish my course. Nevertheless, I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the day following, for it cannot be that a prophet should perish away from [Zakir's translation: "outside of"] Jerusalem.’" He tells the Pharisees, men who thought they were very special and important Jews that God favored, to go and tell Herod (who the Pharisees say is going to kill him) that he will be in Herod's kingdom performing miracles and preaching for three more days. He also says to them that he is not afraid to stay and finish his preaching because while they think the decree of King Herod will put him to death, he says he knows it is them, the Sanhedrin who convened and had authority _in Jerusalem,_ who would put him to death. It makes sense, even from a Muslim perspective, and whether or not you believe you can trust what I explained. Consider this: If Muslims rely on Luke 13:33 to say that Jesus was not the one crucified, it should be a verse that they believe to be accurately relayed. They also believe Jesus was a prophet, not a liar, so the statement "it cannot be that a prophet should perish away from Jerusalem," must be a true statement. If that statement was taken to mean that Jesus could only be killed while physically inside the city gates of Jerusalem (if he was going to die), that would mean Muhammad was not a prophet, and I _know_ that's not what a Muslim would intend to say. The Christian understanding creates no such problems, because all Jesus is saying (simplified) is that the prophets of God are killed by God's people. That interpretation has no conflict with the Quran.

[@iliaschannel3646]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 i think you have to understand one thing mate , muslims they don't rely on the bible in general or in luke 13:33 in particular to prove that Jesus was not the one crucified because Muslims believed that the Quran is 100% the literal word of God ( not word of prophets nor word of desciples of the prophets neither word of any human being) , hence ig God almighty says clearly in the Quran that jesus was not killed nor crucified rather it was made appear to them and he was saved by God here it is end of story for muslims.. we don't use the bible to confirm the non crucifixion of jesus actually we don't use it to prove anything , because it is obivous the bible is mixed word of prophets , historians , anonymous authors , some words from jesus and so on. i hope you understand me until now. but in debates with christians & because christians they believe in the bible as the word of God , muslims uses clear statement from the bible against the christians themselves , to show them the inconsistency in their Core belief ( the trinity & the cucifixion of jesus) in sum we muslims we believe that the authors of the bible are anonymous and they didn't record the exact word and actions of jesus pbuh , that's why the Quran is called "the dominator" actually God call it like this.. your interpretation remains a personal point of view.

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

​@@iliaschannel3646 You have to understand, though, that's why people say Muslim apologists are inconsistent. If you don't believe the Bible is reliable, it doesn't make sense to argue your point from it. It _would_ make sense if you were trying to show that something _we_ thought was in the Bible wasn't in there, but that's not how it's used. [The Muslim standard for the Torah and Bible are confusing as well. For example, the Quran says of the Torah, "But how do they come to you for decision while they have the Tawrah, in which is the plain Decision of Allah; yet even after that, they turn away. For they are not really believers." If the Torah was hopelessly corrupt at that time, why would the Quran say that the Torah is "the plain Decision of Allah" and find it sufficient for Jews to be aware of Allah's will? If it was corrupted between the Quran and today, we have parts of the Torah from 600+ years prior to the Quran, and they are virtually identical to the Torah we have today (they're considered "reliable copies of the original").] Whether Muslim apologists continue to use the Bible in debate or not, I still don't understand the use of Luke, which _if_ the Muslim persuades the Christian that he is correct, would only ever prove to Christians that neither Jesus _nor_ Muhammad were prophets! Primarily, I don't see how Quran 4:157-158 has to be in conflict with _any_ of the Christian death story, and that's the main reason why I'm surprised Zakir took the view that Jesus was never even placed on a cross, something Muslims would differ with Christian, Jewish, and secular scholars on. I have read in the past from Quranic scholars who believe that the Christian death story is perfectly aligned with that in the Quran, apart from the Christian belief that Christ and God are part of one entity.

[@iliaschannel3646]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 why should i believe that the bible is reliable while many scholars says that its authors are anonymous ?! the new testament was not even written in the time of jesus nor jesus gave his authority to write it , let alone God gave his authority.. the word bible means collection of books , the christians collected the books they want and they name it " bible" , does jesus says wich books are the new testament , does God did ? simple answer no same story with the old testament , while the torah is one book as it is mention in teh Quran , here you have 05 books of the old testament . about luke , where if luke says it , it means it does exist in the bible and it is fair to be used by muslims to prove their case ! even moses will be not a prophet according to luke statement , so you blame muslims for using the gospel of luke or luke who wrote it ? or let me see the author who wrote the Gospel of luke .. i don't know wich muslims schoalrs who says that the Christian death story is perfectly aligned with that in the Quran.. al what i know the Quran is quite clear & exlicite in the crucifixion of jesus , that he was not killed nor crucified rather he was lifted up by God , clear statement wich doesn't requite any other interpretation . if jesus died , God will simply says in teh Quran that he died and that's it .. but instead he saved him , how he did that ? i don't know just God alone knows.. that's why jesus will come again in his 2nd coming to marry and live a normal life and preach for islam and most of that he will say i am not God , because he never ever claiemd to be .. it is the jews who accused jesus of blasphemy and has been given to pontious pilote to be killed .. even if i was not a muslim i will never ever believe the jews in any single word.. they simply the worst of creatures , killers or prophets , liars , haters , changing the word of their scriptures the way its fit their desires. and so on

[@TheOldschool3r]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 my g it's proven the Bible isn't fully reliable. That shit has been corrupted and it's obvious. How did Judas die ? One says he hung himself and another said he fell headlong? Who is the father of joseph? Another contradiction lol I can go all day

[@ibrahimsalah3232]

Summarising Zakir’s points and some of my own! Five issues with the crucifixion 1st: According to Luke 22:17-18, Jesus said that he would be not drink wine until the kingdom of God comes. However we read that he drank wine while he was on the cross (John 19:28-29), before he got to the Kingdom of Heaven. So you have two choices. Either one, you could say the man on the cross was not Jesus, and thus, you would have proven the Islamic position, or two Jesus made a false prediction and so, Christians believe a false prophet died for them. Which one is it? I suggest the first option. 2nd: Jesus in Luke 13:33, says that no prophet can die outside of Jerusalem. However, we know that Jesus, according to the Gospels died outside of Jerusalem. The Gospels make it clear that Calvary (the place where Christ supposedly died) is a place outside Jerusalem. So you have two choices, either accept Christ (Alayhi Assalam) was a false prophet (اعوذ بالله), or accept he wasn’t crucified. You’re choice! I hope you go with the second option! 3rd: According to Hebrew 5:7, Jesus offered loud cries to God because he didn’t want to get killed, and he was HEARD. Now this verse affirms that Jesus was not crucified, how would you explain it? Hebrews 5:7 KJV [7] Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 4th: According to psalms 20, God will save his “anointed”. The Hebrew word used there is “Messiah”. The word Messiah means he who is “anointed”. So this tells us the Messiah will not die, rather he would be saved. Psalm 20:6 KJV [6] Now know I that the Lord saveth his anointed (Messiah); he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand. 5th: We read in the Gospel of Luke that after Jesus’s alleged crucifixion, he appeared to the disciples, all twelve of them (although Paul says they were eleven). When he appeared to them, he greeted them by saying “Peace be unto you”. The disciples were terrified however! I’m asking why were they terrified? Usually when you see someone you thought was dead, you’d hug him and celebrate that he isn’t dead. That isn’t what the disciples did. The reason behind this is because apparently, they thought he was a ghost. Also bear in mind that Mark 14 says the following about the disciples after Jesus was arrested by the Roman authorities. Mark 14:50 KJV [50] And they all forsook him, and fled. So if they all forsook him and ran for their lives, no one could’ve witnessed his supposed crucifixion. So they were all hearing, hearsay, that the master was hanged on the cross. That he gave up the ghost, in other words that he died. So naturally when you hear such things, you’d be terrified if that person again! Luke 24:37 KJV [37] But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. Jesus wanted to assure them that he isn’t what they’re thinking. So he says: Luke 24:38-40 KJV [38] And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? [39] Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. [40] And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. So he showed them his hands and feet that had flesh and bones. And they were tangible. He went so far and ate in front of them. Luke 24:41-42 KJV [41] And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? [42] And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. He also told them that “A Spirit has no flesh and bone” to prove what? That he was a spirit? A ghost? No, to prove the opposite! You might be asking, how is this a problem? Well everyone knows that a spirit has no flesh and bones. This is universally accepted. So you’d expect a resurrected person to have a spiritual body and not a physical one! Who says so? Paul does! Concerning human bodies, Paul says the following: 1 Corinthians 15:44 KJV [44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. A body is sown (buried) as flesh and bones and then he is raised a spiritual body. So if we accept what Paul says then we must conclude that Jesus couldn’t have been resurrected physically. However the Gospel tells us that is the case. Which one are we supposed to believe? If we follow Paul’s criteria, then we have to conclude that Jesus wasn’t resurrected because he didn’t die in the first place. Matthew 16:27-28 KJV [27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. [28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Jesus tells his disciples that when he returns, they would still be alive! Well 2000 years have passed and Christ still didn’t return. AN OBVIOUS FAILED/FALSE PROPHECY!! FYI, Luke 9:27 repeats the exact same message, however the phrase “Son of Man” isn’t there! So obviously one of them is a fabrication! Matthew or Luke! Which one is it? Isn’t this another proof this book is corrupted?

[@monicalewisky4925]

Christian Muslim dialogue group chat.whatsapp.com/GLabQmlczzLA51mAySJ1XQ

[@monicalewisky4925]

Let's have a dialogue in that group please

[@slash903]

1. You are misunderstanding what Jesus is speaking of when He says he will not drink of the fruit of the vine. He is speaking of the communion at God's table, saying that He will not participate in another celebration at a supper until He is in the kingdom of God. He is not referring literally to not partaking of any wine at all. This would make no sense, since the prophesy of receiving sour wine was well known to all the Jews, including Jesus. 2. You have misquoted the Luke 13:33. It doesn't say a prophet can't die outside of Jerusalem. It says a prophet cannot die away from Jerusalem. Jesus was crucified right outside of the city limits of Jerusalem. This is not a contradiction. 3. Nowhere in Hebrews 5:7 does it say that He was saved from death. It says His cries were heard. That says nothing to God's action in relation to those cries. And, it is true that in His resurrection Jesus was delivered from death. 4. Refer to #3. Salvation does not necessarily mean kept from death. Jesus was resurrected after atoning for God's elect. 5. The disciples were scared because they saw someone they thought was dead. The disciples were not aware of the Messiah's death and resurrection, so when Jesus died they thought it was over. Seeing someone they thought was dead frightened them. You also misunderstand Paul when he refers to the difference between the natural and the spiritual. When Paul refers to this dichotomy, natural refers to a sinful, degrading body while spiritual refers to a glorified, heavenly body. This is not denying Jesus's physical resurrection. Also, Jesus's statements about His return did occur before some who heard Him speak died. He returned in 70AD to exercise judgment against the covenant breakers. The Apostle John was still alive at that time. Not a failed prophecy.

[@royalflush8173]

jesus did not dri k wine on the cross it was a trick itvwas viniger and salt in the container

[@royalflush8173]

james whote totally destroys all opponents put in front of him

[@runup7529]

James lays down facts. Muslims feelings and opinions that holds no weight. Well down brother James.

[@Naz-vi8jf]

think you got the names the wrong way round

[@fahadusmani2184]

one of the best debate of Zakir .....Allah hu akbar

[@abdulraheemsaliu2156]

Bro Zakir Hussain is genius, Allah is actually protecting Islam through people like him. I wish I can study and become like him. Wallah he has study, not even small but a lot, I can't even weigh it. May Allah bless him, i wish Dr Ali Ataie will also be debating christian like bro Zakir wallah it will be awesome

[@ViruzVera]

James white probably the only Christian who doesn't insult The Prophet and Islam unlike many do

[@bxs4122]

😱 .... Man down ...man down ...I repeat man down ...requesting back up the people of gospel requesting back up Dr White is dead I repeat Dr White is dead RIP James white

[@Anand.Harprem]

☠️😄👌🏼👏🏼

[@Sfaruk91]

😂🤣

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

Shaik Ahmed Deedat beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified ..

[@Wyowiskdkejrgro]

Please watch debate Ahmed deedat vs josh McDowell...

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

aahmad deedat i think is wrong with the swoon theory, I think Zakir is better!

[@happysmile1481]

@nov star no we not gonne stop saying that we keep up doing that.

[@happysmile1481]

@nov star jesus is not god. Goodbye

[@happysmile1481]

@nov star not god bye

[@danianul]

Or if you give the scroll to someone who cannot read, and say, "Read this, please," they will answer, "I don't know how to read." , Isaiah 29:12 ( NIV )

[@mesafamily5830]

Although I am a Christian and believe James White produced better evidence for the resurrection, Zakir handled himself very well. He was not mocking or haughty like many debaters have been with Dr White. God bless both of these men!

[@AbdullahArguer]

Woah your the first person in the whole comment section at least that i've seen who said Dr White won

[@mesafamily5830]

@@AbdullahArguer everyone has their opinion, and worldview through which they see the world. I’m sure most Muslims would disagree with me. That’s the beauty of debate. Have a blessed day

[@AbdullahArguer]

likewise@@mesafamily5830

[@georgegrant6796]

"We are restoring the real Jewish Christianity" - I liked what Zakir said.

[@adm7812]

great topic jazakAllah

[@soleil3gs]

The Trinity is the most nonsensical doctrine this world has ever seen, literally.

[@kheireddinepeterson6557]

jay jay yeah islam is nonessence because we reject the "essence" in your greek pagan 3-in-1 shampoo, trini.

[@kheireddinepeterson6557]

jay jay you're in denial and full of hate. Is this how someone who claims God lives inside them talks?? You can rage all you want, at the end of the day my family was christian and now we are atheist or muslim. Not even my grandparents are still christians, and all the greatgrandkids so far are muslim. Christianity is the Obamacare of religions, you like your paganism? You can keep your paganism. Now since your religion never sowed anything good and true you have nothing to reap today except filth and lies. Your faith is built on the false prophet Saul of Tarsus and the false miracle of the "Septuagint" where 70 rabbis magically translated the masoretic bible and oooops changed the entire meaning. Son of God to Jew: David Son of God to Greek: Hercules Jesus came only for the lost sheep of Israel, jayjay, not you. The Bible is not for you. You are guilty of rejecting your prophet, Muhammad pbuh. May Allah heal your heart. Ameen.

[@kheireddinepeterson6557]

jay jay Your whole religion is offensive to scripture and intellect, jayjay. You say my babies are born wicked sinners and that if they don't believe in human sacrifice they go to hell. Nah mate, my babies are innocent sweeties, not evil wicked creatures. You're brainwashed to hate your kids and then entrust them to magical paedo priests.

[@wisperwelle8688]

And Trinity has so much good fruits. Especially for free thinking. We can't go behind .

[@Jamesjacob339]

Why do Muslims concerned about Christian Trinity? We Christians asked many questions to Muslims still now we haven't get any answers. Three titles used for Jesus in Islam. The word of Allah, the spirit of Allah and the Messiah none of them defined in the Quran. When the Bible clearly describe that Jesus was the word of God who was existed before all the creation and Jesus is the Messiah because he was anointed by God with the power of the holy spirit. The Bible clearly describe each of these titles it is more authentic if we compare to Quran. The Quran only provide half stories of Jesus which was adopted from the Gnostic Gospels.

[@samhadiliya]

Brother zakir Alhamdulillah was on point my fellow Christians there you are if you have any doubts

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

All the five daily prayers are equally important..recite Ayat Al Kursi after every Salat so that Allah will protect you always....READ QURAN EVERYDAY AND NEVER IGNORE YOUR FIVE DAILY PRAYERS 🇵🇸

[@IbnAlHimyari]

Thank you for your advice بارك الله فيك

[@jackpaul3315]

Where in the quran does it say you need to pray 5 times a day ?

[@ibraheemal-hasan6364]

الحمدلله، Assalamu Alaykum. May Allah bless Dr. James White and Br. Zakir Hussain. Dr White is a great man, but in this topic, Christians got crucified, and I don't think they'll be raised on the third day.

[@fireflames3639]

It's unbelievably clear that Jesus (peace be upon him) died

[@funkylilbrain]

Wow, this is the first debate in which James White was so clearly defeated (that I saw). He literally couldn't refute almost anything Zakir said.

[@Sebastian_Shaw_X6]

@@agadirand4four347 the crucifixion of Christ simply cannot be refuted nor disproven…

[@sunwukong32]

@@Sebastian_Shaw_X6 or proven.

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

Zakir Hussain beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified

[@SamitoJesus1]

We don’t need Islam (600 after Jesus birth) to explain about Jesus. why don’t we hear from Himself ( Jesus Christ of Nazareth, From that time Jesus began to show His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised up on the third day. Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “ God forbid it, Lord! This shall never happen to You.” But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but man’s.” Matthew 16: 21-23 Case Closed ✅

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

Shaikh Ahmed Deedat beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

Was Jesus PBUH a Trinitarian ????

[@fiveSolas879]

was he there? how old is Zakir Hussain?

[@monicalewisky4925]

Christian Muslim dialogue group chat.whatsapp.com/GLabQmlczzLA51mAySJ1XQ

[@muhammadabdu9764]

I would love to see zakir debate david wood (or any other christian apologist) on the prophethood of muhammad.

[@muhammadabdu9764]

Reverted Haqqx I know but they discussed a different topic.

[@SK991dvdhd]

Muhammad Abdu Woods is a disrespectful islamophobe. He tried killing his father and went prison and had mental issues. He re-directed his malice towards Islam instead since conversion. He is no serious academic.

[@wisperwelle8688]

Read all Hadiths. And you have all anderes.😂

[@musad6234]

taffy417 taffy417 what rubbish ... is this the best you can do.

[@entermenot8917]

Mohammed is a murderer and fake prophet....

[@racfat1]

proude of your knowledge Zakir, you nail it.

[@ridwanmuhammad8183]

The psalms makes it clear that the messiah cannot not die inthe hands of the enemies.I really enjoy this debate. Bro Zakir May Allah always increase you in knowledge .well done

[@lizterfillesteintnitz437]

Where in Psalms? Psalms said his body will not decay or see his corruption Isaiah said he would be killed.. Daniel said he would be killed and all these are from Old Testaments

[@cowdyimammurrahtabari973]

@@lizterfillesteintnitz437 No. Isaiah didn't say he will be killed. I don't know about daniel. But psalms said he will be saved.

[@DW_Kiwi]

The Psalms were mainly written by King David. Some are messianic (foretold Jesus) David was a type of Jesus. The Psalms do not necessarily have to be lived out the same way as they were written. God made a way for Isaac. The lamb in the thicket, Jesus, makes a way for people to be saved by Him now. Man has no need (or can) be a sacrifice for Sin. Only the Man/God... Jesus can

[@armandowhawhato646]

​@@cowdyimammurrahtabari973 Isiah 53

[@mohamedismael1185]

2:04:22 I know this accent very well 🤣🤣 This guy is 100% Arab 80-90% Egyptian 😂😂

[@muslimwoolfy-winterequestr4344]

Yup

[@morpheus8289]

When did this debate take place?

[@abdurahman90982]

like two weeks ago i think

[@rsz90182]

Was Jesus (AS) Crucified? This Debate between Dr James White & Zakir Hussain was recorded on 15/08/17 in Birmingham (UK)

[@brandonroot7848]

Matthew 27:35 KJV - And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

[@SamitoJesus1]

Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” But He was speaking of the temple of His body. So when He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He said this; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken. John 2: 19-22 🤔🤔🤔

[@IbnMurrah]

*Zakir Hussein & James White* 0:00:00 | Introduction 0:07:52 | Opening Statement - James White 0:32:51 | Opening Statement - Zakir Hussein 0:56:41 | Rebuttal - James White 1:07:17 | Rebuttal - Zakir Hussein 1:17:44 | 2nd Rebuttal - James White 1:28:04 | 2nd Rebuttal - Zakir Hussein

[@EFDawah]

Jazak'Allahu Khairan akhi ❤

[@IbnMurrah]

@@EFDawah Waiyyak ❤️ I posted a complete one that includes the q & a session and the closing statements. You can pin that one.

[@EFDawah]

@@IbnMurrah Done my brother 👍

[@okay9407]

i have never seen more one sided debate. Wow james white had nothing for zakir. well done zakir you schooled him

[@celestialknight2339]

If you pay attention, you can tell that Dr. James White seemed a little uneasy at times during the debate. He knew that Zakir's evidence was pretty powerful. Great job Zakir, may Allah (swt) reward you in this life and the hereafter

[@abdurahman90982]

Abdul S. u right brother he screams of his family and his Christian friends, one of the reason he is not converted yet to Islam. He is currently studying the authentic hadiths of Bukari and muslim and also the biography of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

[@princeofpeace794]

Abdul S. Muhammad is liar false child rapist he is in hell with Allah the moon god of Islam

[@celestialknight2339]

Prince Of Peace Do you care about seeking the Truth or just staying content with what you have and then insulting all ideas that don't agree with your beliefs? Because your repulsive language shows me that you do not have any sincerity, good manners, or open-mindedness. You ought to change that mentality if you want to actually attain the Truth.

[@princeofpeace794]

Abdul S. I have the true savior. Jesus is the only way to heaven Allah can't save you from hell remember that

[@princeofpeace794]

Abdurahman Omar listen Muhammad is liar he lieying to you. God doesn't have a prophet from Arabia. Muhammad get his revolution from demons. He trying to throw himself many times. He himself says I don't what's going to happen to me or y'all. Please Jesus is the only true savior he is the only to heaven.

[@emeraldfiresha4837]

Thank you, Brother Zakir, I love your statements, you have taught me something new always

[@farhin612]

U nailed it Zakir. 👏👌

[@iliaschannel3646]

james white had really a very bad time with zakir..

[@ambivalentrants]

Good Lord! Zakir swept the floor with White. James White just resorts to emotional blabbering, rhetoric

[@JC.Realm7]

Yeah, Zakir is making all these clear logical arguments - while White just gets emotional. Very typical Christian response.

[@ssa3101]

I think we should keep promoting Mr. White. He is doing a good job of exposing christianity for us Muslims.

[@Son_of_aesthetics]

Man I have huge respect for both of them,first they both spent God knows how many hours and years studying their specialties and now talking and give us all their information,they were genuine no matter what they believe in,they are actually genuine in what they believe actually and y'know,I think if there is a God,they just lived the shared piece of their life in this whole existence pursuing truth,everybody is imperfect but that is exactly what makes us human and gives us enough space to move forward and look for truth,and at the end I enjoyed their respect amd love for one another🥰 Cuz maaan,believe me,religions,phikosophies anything about us,is just abooouuuut us,not us! And they are just adjectives like a christiam a muslim,at the end we all are human and on the same boat. Much love to everybody who read this comment🥰you guys awesome man!

[@SK991dvdhd]

Equal scale eh lads? "Why quote people who don't believe in the Quran but I'll quote it when it helps my case" Same as what David Woods does.

[@going2sleep]

Who is the reciter, great voice mashaAllah

[@aishakhan9998]

Amazing verses were recited in the beginning from both Quran and Bible. Both verses proves Jesus Christ was not crucified. Muslim brother recited Quran chp 4 verse 157 which says " That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not The Christian guy recited Isaiah 53 which says in verse 10 " He will see his offspring and will prolong his days". That means Jesus will see his offspring meaning Children and until than God will prolong his days. Alhamdulillah brother Zakir Hussain very nicely established the truth i.e Jesus Christ was not crucified. Excellent presentation by EFDawah. Jazakallahu Khairan

[@davidthompson675]

Read all of Isaiah 53 and don't just rip a portion out of context. First it says:- "He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b] 9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth" This clearly states that the messiah would be led like a lamb to the slaughter and killed. Then in verse 10 "He will see his offspring and prolong his days" is talking about the resurrection of Jesus and his offspring are his followers who preach the gospel. Context my friend, context.

[@riaaaz0121]

'Zera' the hebrew word for offspring in this 'context' ALWAYS means LITERAL offspring. Consistency my friend, consistency.

[@dabatulard6045]

Yep Christians love to quote Isaiah 53 and Isaiah 9 to prove their points only to find matters are made worse for them

[@jundean5292]

David Thompson lamb to the slaughter phrase was also used for Isaac who was NOT KILLED. Isaiah 53 was also applied to Isaac in the 1st century. The problem is the Christians don't know what parts to take literally and what parts to understand metaphorically. Christian interpretations are topsy turvy

[@jundean5292]

David Thompson like was said in the debate. If AFTER DYING the messiah is given LONG life and not ETERNAL life (there is a difference) then this means Jesus life will.end one more time in the future. So do you think Jesus will die again?

[@aniketdhanvate1576]

He is reading everything, nice homework Zakir

[@monicalewisky4925]

Christian Muslim dialogue group chat.whatsapp.com/GLabQmlczzLA51mAySJ1XQ

[@Eschton23]

Citing references is way much better than emotional minipulation

[@daaimmir1104]

James white is a great debater but he was not able to answer many questions

[@hamzahalharbi4566]

What the hell is going on? The Muslim guy gives evidence every time he speaks, while the Christian guy speaks randomly with no tingible evidence? Debate concept is so simple, i give you evidence, you slab me back with another evidence refuting my evidence.

[@juslearnin730]

Christianity=just believe

[@masterplanner5142]

Because the question itself sucks

[@coryalbright9798]

Its frightening to see how Muslims can be so sure of something so false. Its like they're under a spell. Its sad. I pray for Muslims to open theyre eyes and worship the true God.

[@Anand.Harprem]

Some of us feel exactly that same way about Cristians. Actually, anyone who preaches about “the true God”, so, not your God, or his or her God, but the TRUE GOD, is in one level delusional, but on another, separating energy, dual-evil fighting force. I would say this specially to this kind of Muslims, which are many as a matter of fact. Yet, there’s something so puzzling about fanatic and neurotic-to-the-core Cristians. Jesus would be in awe.

[@coryalbright9798]

@@Anand.Harprem my point is simply that Muslims take a delusional position on Jesus and a contradictory position on the Bible according to theyre own Quran. Not sure what your point is .

[@ramzy7330]

@@coryalbright9798 we believe the same about christians though... how can you believe that the bible is the word of god when it is many errors in it, this is so obvious to us.

[@luismnivar]

@@ramzy7330 The Quran itself contradicts itself on the matter of if the Bible is the word of God. In the Quran Allah gave the Gospels to Jesus so he basically gave him his word right? If so, the Quran also says that Gods word can’t be changed nor corrupted so by saying that the Bible is corrupted you are contradicting the Quran.

[@ramzy7330]

@@luismnivar exactly, so if the bible we have today is corrupted, it cannot be the word of god. you have to understand that the bible isn't the injeel which the quran talks about, the bible was written by several humans, while the injeel is the gospel of jesus(pbuh).

[@kalijasin]

Robert price is just a mythicist? Are you kidding me? That's a totally dishonest assertion. Robert price has a master degree in theology from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary. A PHD in Systematic Theology from Drew University. And a PHD in New Testament studies from Drew university.

[@jundean5292]

Jason C. It's just ad hominems. Doesn't matter what Robert price believes personally. He is still a biblical scholar so his research still holds weight just like ehrman. Dr white just thinks attacking them personally will refute the arguments when that is not the case

[@tristansim1052]

Price doesn't believe Jesus existed. He is a contemporary of Richard Carrier who is also a mythicist.

[@stiffknee167]

I love Zakir Hussain!! He has taken my job now!! Excellent work there son

[@juslearnin730]

How old are you?

[@chrisbennett3290]

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the inly way to salvation. He died for the sins of the world and rose from the dead. Repent of your sins and believe in Him alone for salvation from your sins and from God's coming wrath.

[@abidaouladali7019]

@@chrisbennett3290 Somebody has been sleeping during this debate..omg 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@MuddassirJamalRazSalafi1996]

My Favourite Scholars : Dr. Ali Ataie, Ustaad Zakir Hussain, Ustaad Adnan Rashid, Shaikh Khawar Rashid Bhat حفظہم اللہ

[@fahad055]

amazing , jazzak allah kheer brother zakir hussain .

[@DC-wp6oj]

James dodged it again. Did anybody tell him the title of the debate? Answer the questions or stay at home.

[@StubbyAcro]

Are there any ways that I can follow brother Zakir Hussain lectures?

[@StubbyAcro]

Who?

[@abdurahman90982]

Pororoca Alien hamza Matt from efdawah channel. Hamza Matt is also another famous debator that debates in speaker corner Hyde park London and I can find both zakir and hamza debates on efdawah. Also as important check out dawahmedia and Mohammad hijab and SCDawah channel. Or type on KZbin zakir Hussain debate.

[@StubbyAcro]

Thanks friend

[@DrXoz]

Abdurahman Omar It's Hamza Myatt :) May Allah swa bless him and his family.

[@musad6234]

Zakir is lost... his arguments don't make sense in any way. Don't listen to him read the bible and yoi critique it yourself. There you'll see what God has to say. God, not Allah the pagan deity who is not God at all but a demon entity...

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

My First time seeing Zakir Hussain debate. I have much respect for him. He acquited himself very well.

[@rationalmind3785]

May Allah shower mercy upon u and make u true believer aameen

[@liebewahr5127]

In his first debate he explained such good that dr. White could not say anything to any of those arguments.

[@rajeshshetty4862]

Fantastic debate by Dr. James .He is scholar of highest order. He understands islamic contradiction in their verses. In fact Mohammad himself created lot of confusion. Mohammad has sinned and needed forgiveness But Jesus was without Sin and he will come back to Judge and resurrect the dead that includes all the prophets including Mohammad. Jesus as per Mohammad did everything that God did. Only God can forgive Sin ,only God can give Life and Jesus did all of that. Quran declared it. Except Christ and be forgiven.

[@Hamza000h]

Im a muslim and i love and respect james white and you my christian friend. Peace, and may we spread love and improve our interfaith relations

[@kobanichelsea3740]

Great work by brother Zakir and loved brother Hamza question

[@chuck1t700]

Never have I seen such a halal slaughter fr

[@rabeekhalil4391]

All that James White does is to downplay the quotations of Zakir stating that they are quotations from disbelievers, liberals etc. but never does address the quotations and then asks muslims what if he did the same when it comes to Islam. Well James, bring up the arguments of orientalists or whoever you want and we will address them, not simply say "Bah! They are orientalists and liberals, forget about what they say!"

[@dr.imraanahmad9145]

Asslam Alykum brother Zakir. Ma Sha Allah you have done indepth study and related your everything with citations. I appreciate you my brother. May Allah reward you.

[@benkhan4447]

Beautiful debate zakir! Respect to James white as well.

[@travisanderson3920]

Would love to hear these two debate on how reliable the Quran is vs the Bible

[@Fahad-Qahtany]

نحن على مشارف الدخول لعام 1439 ومازال أكثر الناس مشرك أو جاهل أو متكبر هدانا الله وأياكم

[@dabatulard6045]

Well I wonder if James white was able raise back up on the third day after his crucifixion.

[@AlexplorerCowan]

Lol

[@hadrianvetti6758]

DABAT UL ARD!!!!!! What does it matter to you.. your father Satan Allah will has already taken your Islamic soul..

[@zafster22]

Hadrian Vetti Our fathers don’t torture and kill their own innocent sons for the crimes of others like your ‘heavenly’ father did out of love

[@mariamk7766]

😂😂😂😂

[@englishteacher3145]

@@hadrianvetti6758 shit your fuckin soul

[@dyassine99]

I think James White is a great speaker, but that is it! LOL

[@Rhantismos23]

Lol and Zakir just says I say this and here is somebody who agrees with me and moves on call that a debate?

[@kalijasin]

Agreed. He's a great speaker and lecturer. Terrible debater though.

[@rizwanramzan5729]

James is a great performer with awesome theatrics... Psalms in the old testament disapproves the crucifixion..

[@Leguan216]

James White can read and speak arabic and old greak, which he also teaches. He read the Quran, the hadiths and the most modern influental islamic scholars. He takes the islamic texts seriously and tries to understand them in THEIR context. Thats not what Zakir is doing with christian texts. I think White is more than a "great speaker".

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@@Leguan216 bible has been changed. bc pagan trinity took about 400 years to form and many unitarian christians were killed. admitted liar crypto judeo paul taught lawless man worship contradicting all Prophets peace and blessings on them who taught Tawhid and follow law, to give judeo usury elitists an edge. this pushes tyranny not unit or ONeness of the Lord leading to ONeness of Man under a law and functioning as one!

[@deannaalvarez6025]

This video has been cut and edited. Not including everything said. Deceitful and dishonest.

[@NajmaADini]

where is ur proof? OR do u talk out the side of your neck?

[@glasgowblackchigowski6117]

Cut and edited? I don't know if you watched it or not but it was streaming pretty good instead of the two first cut outs where zakir himself was speaking for quite some time

[@cheicknacamara651]

Why can’t we quote someone who give valuable informations even if he’s not a Christian or Muslims . Did James white just said that psalms 22:3 is later Christians addition ? 😂what else is added

[@Asiyah2000]

Numerous are added

[@hamzahmohammedsafi3784]

Zakir went in hardddddddd

[@luismnivar]

And got debunked even harder.

[@buster8584]

@@luismnivar yes James white got debunked

[@zozouzid]

MashaAllah Wonderful recitation at the beginning. Do we have his more recitations?

[@abdurahman90982]

type this on youtbe brother and u will find it:The Aqeedah Of Ibn Taymiyyah رحمه الله .. (English/Arabic) Poem

[@zozouzid]

Abdurahman Omar Thanks brother but I was talking about the brother reciting Quran at 1:40.

[@abdurahman90982]

Zid lol ok not sure about his

[@abuhaqq]

Zid Moin led tarawih at The Oldbury Faith Foundation. His recitation can be found there.

[@abuhaqq]

Ad Raj his name is moin he led tarawih at Oldbury Faith Foundation kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXjCeGtmq9SEhKs

[@AllaahuAkbar60]

Zakir Hussain beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified..Alhamdulila...

[@whitehorseducharme9280]

And let's just remember technically there is no such thing as Jesus because the letter J was made 500 years ago his name would be yahushua

[@whitehorseducharme9280]

@ALPHA & OMEGA NETWORK wakantanka takes us to the spirit world regardless

[@reneandjohn]

Zakir Hussain just made many vague and incoherent statements. He was unable to show a 1st-century source that denies the crucifixion of Jesus. In contrast, James White came up with various sources and witness statements from that time. But the greatest testimony comes from Jesus himself who repeatedly predicted and confirmed his crucifixion and death. And Zakir Hussain ignores these facts. Even after James White has refuted Zakir Hussain's mistakes in Koine Greek, Zakir Hussain stubbornly continues to say the same thing, how funny.

[@lightoftruth1017]

@@reneandjohn Your dece-pti_ve comment doesn't come as a surprise at all. But if through 👉 *MY 🚩 L-I-E* 👈 God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being con-dem-ne-d as a sinner? Romans 3:7 YOUR FAITH'S real master Saul aka Paul of the Bible the Feroci0us W0LF in SHEEP'S clothing whom Jesus WARNED about. *********** 2 Corinthians 12:16 But be that as it may, I did not burden you myself; nevertheless, 🚩 *D_E-VIOUS* person that I am, I took you in by *D_E-CEIT* 🚩

[@reneandjohn]

@@lightoftruth1017 Don't change the topic. What has Romans 3:7 and 2 Corinthians 12:16 to do with the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ? Nothing! Typical islam. Nothing to say then change the topic. But now on topic do you have any evidence that Jesus is not crucified?

[@zaybali]

Say what you want about james white but he is a man of integrity and honor. He believes what he says.

[@ashherman2327]

Zakir came to cook, but I just have one question - for all Muslims just for understanding - what's the purpose of or for Jesus (if He didn't die for the sins of many) in the Islamic faith. Every prophet in the Bible such as Moses ect. Had a purpose to fulfill but, what was Jesus's purpose in the Islamic faith?

[@sunwukong32]

To be a sign for the lost sheep of Israel, to kill the antichrist, and whatever else Allah swt decrees for him

[@deusvult9372]

Every name I can't pronounce in the comment section thinks the Muslim guy won. I wonder why?? So this guy took verses out of the psalms and applied them to Jesus. What about the psalms that proves the death of Jesus? Why didn't he use those? Plus where are these assumed early Christians that didn't believe Jesus died?

[@jundean5292]

he refuted the psalms that Christians appeal to in this debate

[@deusvult9372]

Mohammad Mubeen Islam is false... the sun doesn’t set in water , historical fact Jesus was crucified, Mohammad a 9 year old wife ...

[@deusvult9372]

Mohammad Mubeen not 9 years old

[@deusvult9372]

Mohammad Mubeen fake prophet

[@deusvult9372]

Mohammad Mubeen no it wasn’t the norm and I can’t believe you’re actually defending that. Jesus never had a wife... it was true and one day you will bow to him

[@abumuhamedaleealansari7811]

Brother zakir Hussein came fully loaded with ammo for days I felt sad for Dr James white for getting crucified so bad by brother Hussein Dr James white committed couples of fallacies Appealing to emotions Genetic fallacy You too fallacy Dr James white you are getting to old it's time to retire !!!

[@hattaamran7348]

Abu Muhamed Alee Al Ansari Dr james white very good guy. We should support him. He is talking on behalf of the christians belief. Watch the video on youtube title "Dialogue between Yusuf Qadhi and james white" where james allowed yusuf qadhi to enter his church. May Allah guide James White to Islam.

[@bxs4122]

Abu Muhamed Alee Al Ansari .....religious bars for days ..... I just love your comment my man peace be upon you

[@diaael-din8832]

@Melvin Bryant get me that verse and i'll quit islam now :) am an ARAB, 2nd what if i got u a very close verse like that from the bible ???? and the taqqiyah lol get me that verse also :)

[@ssa3101]

Melvin Bryant wht the hell is taqqiyah?

[@infinto1]

@Melvin Bryant You seriously are the greatest. Illetrate on this planet Quran says nothing like this makar in Arabic means plan just read it and try to understand its sura yousaf( joseph)the brothers of joseph planned to kill him God had a counter plan to save him so

[@lizzywizzy1863]

This was one of the most enjoyable debates I have seen both sides were strong , well presented and humble at the same time ✨

[@vancity3357]

True. But Dr. White was wrong though

[@lcthiek6750]

one of the difference between Muslim and christian is, we the christian are not angry when the other faiths insulted to any wrong, instead we feel pity for being not know of Christ whereas the Muslims are not, if we insulted allah or mohammed beyond their believe they can't control,

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

2:08:40 Im sorry, but with all due respect, this Zakir guy is ABSOLUTELY using trickery & LYING. I don’t think he knows anything about the Greek Language. «.. καὶ νῦν δόξασόν με σύ, πάτερ, παρὰ σεαυτῷ τῇ δόξῃ ᾗ εἶχον πρὸ τοῦ τὸν κόσμον εἶναι παρὰ σοί ..» -John 17:5 ^^^This passage is so obvious that Jesus was WITH GOD before the world began! You have to be very deceitful to try to interpret this passage in ANY other way.

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@naushad5139 This is what HE SAID. He WILL NOT tell me nor will you tell me the meaning of the Language & History I have studied all my Life! There is no argument. That is a Blatant Lie. He is a deceitful Liar! 👍🏻

[@SpartanLeonidas1821]

@naushad5139 Do you speak Greek? What is your level of education on the Greek Language, on Koine Biblical Greek? If you have none, then I think you need to zip your mouth & open your ears a bit more! 😃👍🏻

[@bilal-zr6uy]

Who was the reciter in the start?? He needs a YT channel. Mashallah that was some of the best ive ever heard

[@MrRebel247]

PixelArt Visuals i know right 😳

[@jackpaul3315]

Mc Smalley

[@aRsH-aJ]

I came here for Br. Hamza... who else ??

[@bibletruthholinesschurch]

Good job Bro James! Jesus the way the truth and the light!

[@If_I_loose_my_hair_i_will_kms]

You smoking? Your scholar got demolished.

[@rajeshshetty4862]

@@If_I_loose_my_hair_i_will_kms You are watching some other debate . James did fantastic work.defended his faith in middle of all Muslims.

[@aniy93dd58]

@@rajeshshetty4862 What a lie

[@AbdullahArguer]

James won? are there 2 debates? the one im watching definitely zakir won

[@mattverville9227]

Great job mr. White once again. As a Christian I would say if I had to pick 1 debater yo represent us it would be him. Certainly not the likes of the fraud, david wood. Great job from the muslim man too. Very knowledgeable person. I enjoyed the debate. Hope everyone has a blessed day.

[@fuckingsean8922]

yes, although he did tend to belittle the sources of zakir without refuting the points...he went about it much more respectfully than I've ever seen David Wood behave in a debate

[@noahsomerville3727]

I only recently discovered Nabeel Qureshi and heard through his book about his friend David Wood. I have not researched him. What makes you say David Wood is a fraud?

[@mattverville9227]

@@noahsomerville3727 the way he belittles muslims for one. He makes fun of them. It's not right because either #1. They are right and hes really in trouble, so am I Or # 2. He is deceived by the great deceiver. He should be acting in a way that would help deceived people, not make fun of them.

[@gregb6469]

Twice, in John 3:14 and John 12:32, Jesus says that he will be 'lifted up'. All NT scholars agree that these are references to His coming crucifixion.