Debating Our TOP 3 CDL Pros! Boston Breach = WORST CDL Team EVER?! OpTic Post-Chip Hangover?

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It's been a big week for pro Call of Duty, as OpTic Texas and Pred, Shotzzy, Dashy & Kenny returned with a post-win hangover, following up on their Toronto Major III chip with a loss vs Attach & Vegas Legion.
Plus, after losing 12 series in a row, are Boston Breach the worst CDL team ever? And is Drazah a surprise top 3 player in Call of Duty: MWIII?
Reverse Sweep hosts and Call of Duty legends Patrick ‘ACHES’ Price, Chris ‘Parasite’ Duarte, Doug ‘Censor’ Martin and Mark ‘MarkyB’ Bryceland discuss a big weekend of COD esports action.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Three of the top 4 lose - what's going on?
4:47 Are Seattle a top 5 team?
11:02 FaZe vs Ravens to be a bloodbath!
17:36 Boston: worst CDL team ever?
23:25 Naming our Top 3 CDL pros this season
28:10 Top 3 most underwhelming pros
39:13 Players who should be in the CDL - friendship league?
49:56 Best rivalries in COD history
53:00 Do teams need more roster changes?
1:00:16 Picking the best players who've NEVER won!
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[@Way2eZz]

Parasite knows ball. Drazah having a crazy year

[@gurindermultanu5113]

Ong damage output is insane, he’ll have 2 to 3 thousand more damage then his team

[@mkwsoxfan]

29:45 wow from arguing "envoy is the best 1-1 upgrade in the off-season" to he's the biggest letdown, i thought this dude was never wrong 😂😂😂

[@jdan6122]

fake news

[@00ICEPRIZE]

envoy can still be the best 1-1 upgrade while being underwhelming but imo draz was the best upgrade for slasher

[@aidanwilson5947]

both can be correct. on paper Envoy is a upgrade over Hiicksy, but Envoy has been very disappointing

[@leang0d]

Cobra is criminally underrated- should be in the league for sure

[@thetankman8]

I agree but not many teams want to take a chance on a 24 year old which is understandable but abuzah got picked up so iunno but I think most teams want that cracked out 18-19 year old over a 24 year old.

[@CodyLewis-mf5ie]

Don’t know how kismet not most underwhelming he’s been so bad all year hydra is hard carrying

[@ottohoffmann5943]

He just dropped the best KD against FaZe yesterday man

[@starihzue7799]

​@@ottohoffmann5943 I mean that's one as compared to how much this year? But yea I hope the bull dog continues to improve like he did yesterday and not let it be a one time wonder.

[@CodyLewis-mf5ie]

@@ottohoffmann5943 that’s one series he ain’t had a tourment over a 1.00 he’s been getting shit on when he was a top 5 sub last year

[@anbu_fear8901]

Kismet has been doing his job top 5 in first blood and kismet has the highest kd in search on his team above hryda.

[@glix1390]

Yup he drops stinkers on lan and is the worst sub in the top 4 irrefutably

[@jaydenv7552]

What ever happened to MohaK?? Wasn’t he running shit for awhile in challengers?

[@BillOSRS]

One of the most underrated rivalries of all time - phizz/TKO vs haggy and dedo and them IN MW3. We didn’t have much competitive support and snd tournies kept the game alive. I remember when this matchup happened, phizz hit 1,000 views on twitch, which was unheard of at the time. Overall MW3 was underrated, great maps for ctf but snd in it was top notch

[@jamesmcmahon4874]

I’d like to point out that Aches’ gwinn guys roster he said on the flank definitely included Godrx but he left that part out 😂

[@haydenbain3633]

Envoy being most underwhelming is not controversial at all. Everyone said he was the best pick up of the off-season and he’s been ASS

[@5cuf]

Agree it’ll be between drazah/pred

[@dylanc2681]

I honestly believe optic being out slayer that much has to be proof of a ping difference, no???

[@thetankman8]

Yea ghostly was talking about how they were play kn a Virginia server where most of that Vegas teams lives near so they were probably 20 while optic was on 40

[@bruceisaloser]

Most undewhelming player for me was Owakening. That guys fall off needs to be studied.

[@goldwerewolf8651]

you expected him to be great

[@elxse4478]

Mw19 cheese merchant

[@TissueMe]

By far my favourite cdl podcast

[@NoiizeeFPS]

A few big names are F/A at the end of the year, what would be the biggest upgrade/move for teams like NYSL or Ultra seeing as they seem to be struggling at times this year. Do you see FaZe or OpTic making any changes also? (obviously depending on who wins champs I feel)

[@BrandonArjun]

I hope during the off-season you guys do a tournament with ONLY the bottom 8 teams - so we can finally find out who #5 is.

[@BrewedCoffeeBean]

lmao remember when benj had that same networking take pat gave and got absolutely fried by scrap 💀

[@BGrizzy24]

Question for next episode: Thoughts on the importance of recognition of challenger players by players in the CDL being suppressed by the isolation of CDL matches. If CDL teams played against top challenger teams consistently they would know who’s good or not

[@teriyakichicken1848]

I remember the exact clip Parasite is talking about lmao

[@garretttank1711]

Dashy is a great shout. He's easily been the most clutch player this year and just came off his best stage since VG. He wasn't that great major 1 but has gotten better and better every stage

[@AD-sg9tr]

nah, he's not even in the top 5

[@privateassist1351]

@@AD-sg9trngl bro u buggin he took out faze fr lol that’s the whole reason they ended up winning BRUCCEEEEEE

[@_Graham99_]

@@privateassist1351he’s had one standout stage calm down. Optics lack of winning really has their fans tripping when they actually do 😂

[@MJisAGlorifiedDemarDerozen]

@@_Graham99_he has the most clutches in the league by far & the only reason he’s not dropping 1.2s is because of the role he’s playing. We all know he can do that if that was his role.

[@Yumadlol]

@@MJisAGlorifiedDemarDerozenhe did have a 1.2 he had a 1.24 vs ultra in the gf and 1.3 vs nysl

[@samueladams2401]

The falloff of Cold War Cammy also needs to be studied

[@WeavyVAL]

Eq merchants

[@Reflect21]

We went from an actually good game to VG, then MW2 lol

[@BillOSRS]

Speaking of old rivalries (if you want to kill it that), early LvG taking on IXI in MW2 was always crazy to watch. IXI basically ran the 360 ladder but a young jumanji (aches, idk why you chose that name) was some of their best competition. Still remember the 4 piece on terminal ctf to save a flag

[@BillOSRS]

And you have to mention fear vs envy from cod4. Everyone on multiplayer wanted to be on either team and would message Moho or foreplay asking to join lmao

[@IVIERT]

Doug giving Dashy love, much deserved!

[@Typicallyyy1]

I’m just wondering what some of your guys most prized video game possessions are? Like Pats Rings and his Evil Genius champs cheque or Chris’s ring etc!? Love the show I watch every week

[@abcdefg9163]

Bad question

[@barry101ish]

I dont think he got a ring for Black Ops 2

[@Ahnilationz]

For me top 3 is hydra, scrap and then literally anyone from optic or faze could be top 3

[@SouthTxHitta]

I would say I agree with all the underwhelming but the biggest one nobody talks about is Arcitys, that man pooped the bed big time and he needs to retire, Arcitys has fallen off so far I don’t think he can recover

[@tragickatzu5114]

Hydra > simp

[@kencharsley7458]

Listening to reverse sweep and playing X Defiant

[@blakerakes770]

Who do yall think is the most improved played this year based off the earlier majors or even last season?

[@privateassist1351]

Doug just laughing it off they calling his team ass pain behind that laugh😪

[@mkwsoxfan]

Scrap, simp, Hydra are my top 3. If NY/hydra have a good major 4 (get top 2 or win) i think hydra is arguably the most valuable player. He has numbers identical to simp, except simp has mvp caliber teammates and NY is nothing without hydra

[@mkwsoxfan]

Honorable mentions to draz/cell/shottzy/dashy

[@CodyLewis-mf5ie]

@@mkwsoxfan I have to say scrap he’s been hard carrying and they been playing better cleanx was so good on skidrow but sense then he’s fallen off

[@kenethernandez6246]

​@@mkwsoxfanI agree

[@Usecodechicken45]

How is aches not gonna say temp come on

[@marshcogburn9976]

Suprised envy vs optic didn’t get a shout in top rivalry

[@dakotathehunter5487]

I'm just wondering how I heard a top 3 with even a hydra mention, this fucker has been just hard carrying his team! WTH!

[@cdlthebreakdown9858]

i dont wanna be the breach so i subbed

[@masono7899]

Mark has best list

[@albertomartinez3863]

W episode

[@conormoreton743]

The 3 best players are simp shotzzy and scrap, best players on each team that have won a chip.

[@connorjamerson]

Parasite knows. Drazah has been frying all year and shining on faze full of superstars! Drazah is def top 3 player in the game. I got hydra scrappy and draz

[@powerg3824]

Looking back on the season so far, no snipers for SnD was the right call?

[@taylorkramer4100]

Nope SnD need snipes. Better for viewers and allows for way more diverse strategy. COD Ghost was the best Search Game of all time !

[@Foggycallabasashillshelicopter]

Not at all, especially with the new maps added snipers would’ve been completely fine or even more likely they would’ve just been useless like most recent cods and the players would opt to not even use them despite being allowed to

[@fosho331]

150 hp cod makes snipers weird but this game you die like it's 100 hp so yeah snipers should be in the game.

[@TheGr8Espi]

not to give them the excuse but Vegas is fighting for champs and OpTic is just getting the reps in going through the motions also when they played Miami they were on like 143 ping they could of still had the internet issues going on who knows GGs to Vegas hope Attach can get it done this year n make champs

[@Munchonmushies]

Question for Doug....how many losses will it take before Boston finally wakes up and acknowledges that the X factor here in terms of losing is Snoopy? I get it, he's gifted with movement blah blah blah....he joins, Boston becomes the worst team in the league. When will the delusion end? Does Boston not want to hurt his feelings or something? They have tried changing everybody but Preistahh and Snoopy this season, and Preistahh has a proven record of winning.

[@TheKhaniProject]

Aches "online means nothing" also Aches "did you see Shotzzy play this last match, he's terrible"

[@kenethernandez6246]

Match results online mean nothing except for the teams trying to qualify for champs. Getting shit on is still getting shit on regardless if it's online or lan.

[@lt1lainez605]

sib is top 3 let down forsures

[@javiergarcia-ny1jd]

Doug, “I’ve been on a winning team” Correction* -You’ve been on a team who’s won, not a winning team. Big difference!

[@RevolutMe]

Thieves can’t be 5th best when the only team they’ve beaten on lan all year is Boston breach.

[@connorjamerson]

Aches always right tho

[@PlumpsHubris]

1. CrimBot 2. Crimsix 3. C6 Honourable mention Clayster when he had the bathroom Braches GT IN cod ghosts finals was nuts too

[@ToxiicPlaysUC]

Nice take by Doug to pick Dashy in the Top 3 👍✅ I kinda agree!

[@Drizzxx-]

outslayer from the league is hydra, but is not winning chips and its stuff as a ny fan, for me he is top 1 but its not winning

[@coreyboyd3094]

Doug be yappin again

[@sheridan9112]

Does Doug pay for his seat on Reverse Sweep?

[@OhandTwelve]

It’s friendship cheese just like the league. None of it is about skill. There’s plenty of players in challengers who way twice as good as the shitters on the bottom 8 teams. They won’t ever get a chance though because of the friendship cheese

[@sheridan9112]

@@OhandTwelve friendship cheese i get, but i didnt actually realise there were people who liked him.

[@OhandTwelve]

@@sheridan9112 very few

[@ark8858]

IT'S BOSTON'S COACH NOT THE PLAYERS 🗣

[@nathansullivan88]

Does Doug ever say anything bad about anyone

[@Bonkbork]

Not sure why people expect anything from Boston. They've always been a bottom feeder team that was only good when Capsidal and Methodz were still on.

[@jefferytodd7017]

This Optic Gaming hate is getting old Laches.

[@lavoywilliams7283]

Putting drazah anywhere near top 3 is criminal

[@joeosullivan10]

Asim has been super underwhelming this year…

[@ZerofromPHX]

he’s a challengers player at best

[@stophog7572]

People saying dashy and shotzzy like they just haven’t start playing good since major 3 mvp is for the whole year; scrap, simp, hydra easily. Drazah close 4th

[@DeclanD470]

These 4 are delusional 😂

[@Ri-lj9gd]

Simp Scrap Shotzzy in my opinion

[@newdarkagenow]

Top 3 in my opinion are: - Scrap - Hydra - Simp

[@BlueCollarSober]

Doug is so wishy washy won’t even say how bad Boston is priestahh snoopy like bro come on bro should not be on this show I say it every episode

[@GalaxyMiichael]

Top 3 1.Scrap 2.Shotzzy(im early but just watch how major 4 plays out) 3.Dashy(all those clutches and a major win!!! What are we talking about dude literally had a 99 ovr in major 3) Honourable mentions:Simp,hydra, cellium

[@gurindermultanu5113]

Someone needs to revoke your rights to internet

[@jgould30]

So an optic fan. lol

[@nathanfc5386]

How can you have a top 3 without one faze player? And based on stats hydra has to be there he just doesn’t have a good team. Meanwhile shotzzy has a bad year but everybody forgot because he played well one day. For me consistency > one pop off every other months.

[@AD-sg9tr]

we hard meat riding Optic right here

[@kenethernandez6246]

LMFAO

[@codydouglas8631]

Top 3 are hydra shotzzy and scrap imo simp a close 4th

[@Envions]

🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶🌶

[@xxxxFORSETIxxxx]

👍😎👍

[@staytact]

Simp Scrap Hydra only correct answer

[@Mike-ro8oh]

Dreadful take

[@Tumorcoach]

Smooth brain take

[@mkwsoxfan]

This is accurate, Optic have had fairly equal contributions from all their members unless shottzy repeats his major 3 this major, this is the top 3

[@newdarkagenow]

Agreed I have the same top 3

[@kenethernandez6246]

You cooked 🔥

[@jdmart2472]

Holy friendship cheese parasite no hydra is braindead

[@robbiewira5344]

Braindead? He consistently takes the best routes hits the best timings makes the best decisions on when to pinch and when to hold 😂 you seek braindead

[@hunterkingfishing6253]

first

[@gabrielbz.]

Simp Scrap Shotzy or bruce t3

[@Mike-ro8oh]

Hydra is not top 3 , The team are known for getting loads of kills and not winning … he’s a massive reason for that , maybe get them over the line and into a finals this year and he can be in the top 3 for this year … Hydra right now isn’t … change my mind

[@_Blonca]

*Hydra is most definitely top 3 arguably. Take him off the subliners and they are nowhere near as good*

[@staytact]

Casual take

[@DuhQing]

Hydra is 100% top 3

[@mkwsoxfan]

Cell won MVP in VG and they didn't win once. Hydras numbers are as good or better than simp in nearly every category and he's playing with a much worse team. Hydra is top 3

[@MrBobbyStealz]

Without Hydra NY is middle of the pack team at best.

[@killercloud5768]

Bro Pat really is trying to let 1 series ruin shottzy's whole rep, grosssssss. It's not like he was the only one that got pissed on in the Vegas Series, it's a team effort to lose, especially to a team like that, if shottzy still hit a 0.71, and the other 3 were all positive, the conversation wouldn't even be had because they would have 3-0

[@Untieabl]

You must be new. Its not just 1 series he has had this take for years now.

[@killercloud5768]

@@Untieabl oh I’m not new, pat hates optic for sure, but him only citing the one series to knock shottzy down instead of brining other evidence just weakens his point imo

[@AnimeAddict2012]

Shottzy is not top 3 he's arguably not even top 3 on his own team let alone the league optic fans debate yourself you think all

[@killercloud5768]

@@AnimeAddict2012 Do you consider AG to be a better smg than shottzy?

[@thetankman8]

He's mad that he had t l retire in mw because he had the lowest K/D in the entire league so he tries to make himself feel better bringing down players who had a low K/D for 1 series lol

[@Manuchoconflicto333]

Hope Neptune gets back in the league

[@Range_45]

Get Doug off the show. It’s unwatchable. Sorry but it’s true