Debian 12 Install Curse

[@TitusTechTalk]

Debian is my favorite distro... If I could only choose one Linux distro it would be Debian! My install history I have is hilarious though... First install in 2019 - Bad USB drive - (installer failed over and over) Second install 2020 - Grabbed a testing build iso that was bad ( again... my fault) This Install in 2023 - a 4k 30hz HDMI switcher rendered a bad resolution in BOTH TTY and Desktop ( exotic hardware fail ) I'm cursed!

[@RelentlessCuriousity]

Worked on KVM running under Ubuntu 22.04

[@fredashay]

Installing a given distro is pretty quick and easy. What takes days is installing all the other software I want and configuring it.

[@webflyer035]

​@@fredashay and then somehow that distro starts misbehaving after a few boots (fedora always do that on my laptop)

[@jugglingotaku]

Of all the Linux distros I've tried, Debian has given me the least amount of headaches.

[@gordslater]

You need more incense, also sleep with some wormwood under your pillow. Chamomile tea really helps with LVM issue too. I never had a problems but I dance naked every solstice just in case.

[@jaxxarmstrong]

lol, at this point I'm just watching your videos for the comedy relief and not necessarily for the technical expertise. Keep it up, sir! 🤨🧙😎

[@waynemews5496]

A great video ...with screw ups you always learn more. I have had about 12 years since I did a lot to command line work ( retired) this refresh helped a lot lsd was a bonus!

[@renanoliveira0]

Thanks!

[@FrDismasSayreOP]

"I don't want to be here all day." -Chris "He was, in fact, there all day." -Narrator Thank you for sacrificing your time. This is how we learn!

[@Wulfdane]

Debian is my Linux distro, I’ve been using it on my home computer since around 1998. I use NetBSD for an old Sun sparc64 I enjoy fooling around with. I have a dual boot laptop to test different Linux distros when I see or hear of one that seems interesting. For work, we have Windows. But that’s out of my hands.

[@bobgrimes8618]

This would be perfect as one of the classic "drunken installs" to go along with your classic Christmas Drunken Arch Install!

[@anonymous_opinions1924]

Glad you got it working in the end! Debian is my favorite.

[@gearspider]

1:02:57 into a 40min install 😆 Love it!

[@shawnwilkersonPhD]

@29:00 The thee partition scheme on Fedora is a mechanism to handle the EDI Secure Boot option.

[@joseph_donovan]

Phew! The Exorcist film has nothing on this video! My dog Boo was so terrified, he had to watch your video from behind the sofa! The terror, or should I say, the horror? Oh mama!

[@mzakyr342]

bye arch, welcome again debian debian is one of my favorite distro

[@adjusted-bunny]

Don't let the entry for the root account empty! You will discover that it is very helpful to be root when the system has crashed and you want to enter via secure boot (or what the hell it is called). In this case the system wants to start a root shell and it is a pain in the rear when there is no root.

[@trapspringer9891]

Hmmm... Hadn't thought about this. Never been in this situation, but might be good to consider.

[@jackelofnar]

I was all prepared to switch from Arch to Debian but I couldn't get Qtile to compile without error.

[@leighhorton2806]

Hi Chris I too have use Debian for over 2 years. However Nix is proving to be very robust love the one config file as you explained

[@linuxdabbler]

@TitusTechTalk. I applaud your choice of Debian with dwm. I have been using it for years at this point and it is fantastic. Super light, fast, and stable.

[@workinprogress.berlin]

u sir are the funniest IT guy :D😂😂😂😂

[@JohnJohnson-dl8oq]

Wait - no more NixOS? I am disappoint, there's so much more there :(

[@brendtevenden6389]

Agreed. I'll have to go back and look at the live streams. I'm only just getting into Linux and approaching Nix OS is probably beyond my skillset but for some reason I like the idea of config and rollback

[@Nixima81]

Nice to see I'm not alone on the struggle buss.

[@Chiramisudo]

29:24 Do you have a video on how to accomplish that? I was unsuccessful in my last attempt with having an encrypted boot in root (/) with UEFI. I've also heard this can cause issues with Grub after some system updates.

[@lqlarry]

This almost as good as the Drunken Arch Install. ALMOST.

[@danielclark6033]

Chris said Debian Dark Souls Edition would be a fun video and Miyazakisan said "it is done".

[@shawnwilkersonPhD]

@21:00 I run 6 to 12 drives in a system and have not seen the Fedora Partition mess it up in over a decade, with a combination of BTRFS, EFI, EXT3/4/ FAT32/ and NTFS each mounted to different points while being in an LVM. I would like to see an actual example of what breaks. BTW switching to Debian 12 after Red Hat becoming increasingly unreliable.

[@aarond309]

debian’s default /etc/x11/xsession runs /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator if no argument is given and no WM could be found. it’s handled by update-alternatives and was probably linked to kitty during the installation

[@saffanalvy]

Man this video made me so hungry. But then again, this is linux and this is why we crazy people love it so much. So Chris, the pizza is not on you. We cool. x'D Btw did anyone notice that Elgato and Debian logo are so similar. Hmm... 🤔

[@TurntableTV]

God damn it, debian. The man even put on your t-shirt and you do this to him.

[@NADEEMKHAN-sj5hn]

There is no need for extra boot partition in fedora, i always install with only one efi boot partition but if you install nobara with calamares than it requires extra boot partition or it will setup the partition automatically

[@jackelofnar]

I do wonder how long Debian will last on Chris's production machine? I do wonder if Chris understands the meaning of a stable deployment of Linux on a production machine.

[@skelebro9999]

what do you mean by that?

[@Clooger-]

You're saying this like Debian on a production machine is terrible or something.. which is completely asinine

[@jameskellam2980]

I did not read that into his comment. I read it knowing Chris likes rolling distros and likes to be more towards the cutting edge. The fact that Chris is installing a "stable" OS shows how highly he thinks of Debian.

[@uMalice]

"dude, what the hell" how many times have I said that same thing!? "shucks!" "no-modeset, what!?" "that's so crazy!" "it'll be fine."

[@RobinGrays]

Nice 40-min Video, That was Awesome....

[@gwgux]

lol, damn dude. That is a curse. Those display issues remind me of the 'good' old days when we used to have to write X config files by hand and jump through a whole lot of other issues just to get a working system and you couldn't even get a tty for a while there....

[@jameskellam2980]

What I dont get is, why did you compile and install instead of using the package manager? Everytime I did this to force an install it wound up breaking my system.

[@UltraZelda64]

This reminds me of just about every time I've tried to install Arch. Something always goes wrong. Only my Arch problems go back decades.

[@awa0927]

Installing Debian is so weird sometimes. Earlier this year I installed Debian 11 and 12 on a few different drives and everything went smoothly. Then I tried to install it on a spare ssd I had just a couple weeks ago and everything went sideways.

[@Stephen-fix-brandnewcomp-mo4tk]

for the love of god help me . i switch from windows went to mint. been great but i want kde plasma my compter keeps crashing after install. network manager script dispather services first then start ginome display manager an failedd codec capabitiites ( -22) i dont want to go back to mint, i did switch to kde in mint but it was jerky

[@mikehensley78]

I'm loving debian 12. Been using it for about 10 days. 2 problems I'm having. I set it to never power off or sleep and just shut off my monitor power. It worked this way with Ubuntu for the passed 7 years. Now if I shut my monitor off then power it back up I get no signal. I have to hit the power button(sleep) wait a few seconds. Then power back on. Problem 2 not as important but I cannot get OpenVPN3 to install. Other than those 2 bugaboos I really like debian 12. Seems snappy and more responsive than my previous OS (ubuntu 20.04).

[@reverse_shell]

Is there an actual functional setup script along with a cohesive video that isn't assuming prior knowledge of any custom mounts or files that the consumer may not have already? Watched the whole video multiple times (skipping the shenanigans) and still unable to see this in action for a daily driver. Edit: dwm wasn't in the script and I couldn't get autologin to operate or the theme to show up but I did get everything somewhat running, just have to read more to tweak it.

[@_HetShah_]

Hey, I know this isn't the right place to ask how to resolve errors but I'm getting no documentation on it so pls bear with me. I'm currently trying to install debian 12 on my system, dual boot. I go through the installation setup my manual disks and all but at the last it tells didn't find Linux kernel on apt or something. It gives opt. to abort the installation or go without kernel. I go without the kernel then it throws error: fclose:no space left on device libkmod:k_mod_module_new_from_loaded:could not open proc/modules:no such file or directory Error:could not get list of modules:no such file or directory Plss help and thanks for bearing with me

[@zizlog_sound]

For “We don’t re-install, we fix our install.” you re-installed about half a dozen times. 😅 Still curious why nixOS got boring for you.

[@oredaze]

I don't know about the video, but I installed debian yesterday and no issues with the install. Still didn't like it after that though. Too many changes after upstream. Had problems with fonts and stuff.

[@breadmoth6443]

surprised distros are not included the option to F2FS to install on SSD/NVMes..... oh well guess i'll be sticking with Slackware still -- F2FS is an option on Slackware to install on...

[@andrewkamoha4666]

Is it possible to install Debian 12 as it were before, ie: *FREE/FOSS* ?????

[@harrymason1053]

That has always been my experience with Debian, something doesn't get installed or configured right and you end up with crap. You spend too much time pouring over figuring how to fix it.

[@Bekon241]

You now what fun part is, i do same on VMare and setup all what i need, and work perfect :D Now i can try all setting and apps on virtual before i bay new laptop and make debian my only one OS in it :D I use Mate now and i rly love this desktop. :D I hate only gnome and kde.

[@julioperez3936]

Very good video What about flatpak in debian 12?

[@Damian-hq9wl]

Hey @ChrisTechTalk did you ever loose any of the contents of your home folder while trying to format your system before? And what do you use for your backups? Local?

[@tkan2653]

why don't use deboostrap?? 😅

[@blevenzon]

Chris first of all, thanks so so much for this, this was a blast. I wanted to ask how come you dont use githib jists?

[@aaaaaaa1]

Debian is sometimes trouble'ian but it's the mother of all Linuxian, a pioneer in the open-source dominion against a world of orwelian 🙃

[@1234enzor]

This is like me installing Manjaro, forced to use 6.1 kernel and 6.2 kernel which my card hates too, but 6.3 kernel is golden.

[@nessundorma2232]

Gonna switch from Endeavour to Deb 12. Seems Viable

[@TnAhunter]

You talk about some drives wearing down quickly but in the early days of me using Linux that's how I would install the operating system it would be on a thumb drive that way it'd be separate from my windows install nowadays it goes straight on the hard drive though

[@mightymadrid]

Titus I noticed you have a BEACN unit, any way to make it work on arch? Asking for a technically challenged friend 💙

[@mohammedissam3651]

O this is ur second channel 😊

[@Voodoo_S3]

Was happily running Debian 12 KDE until I needed an onscreen keyboard/virtual keyboard, it really shouldn't be that difficult considering for many virtual keyboard is essential for accessibility; apparently it's a wayland security feature. I don't 'need' virtual keyboard but it's useful sometimes, but what about those who actually need it out of the box.

[@FoxyDrew]

So shut the security feature off then install whatever OSK you want. It's Linux not windows lmao

[@Voodoo_S3]

@@FoxyDrew Because it's that easy (and btw you don't actually shut the feature off it's part of wayland from what I gathered you add an exception to it), it's not windows you know. Didn't have to mess around like that in previous versions of Debian. Probs best you stick to "dem Minecraft videos m8" unless you've actually got something helpful or constructive to add.

[@ToucheFarming]

i think that took a bit longer than 40 minutes, but you were close lol

[@jurgenblick5491]

subsystem on win11?

[@alexdefoc6919]

Hmm Titus do you have another history of smashing monitors 😂❤?

[@sandy_gaming7203]

So basically all you guys do is Install distro hop , spend hours installing via terminal instead of the GUI just to make yourselves feel better?

[@the3lucard]

a bit weird isn’t it ?

[@danielstellmon5330]

It's ALWAYS the silly bugs that take the longest time to fix.

[@geoffreyvanpelt6147]

Some monitors and caprure cards don't play nice with KMS. Next time try the nomodeset kernel parameter.

[@lewisdickens3293]

Could do better. Some decaf and a nutritionist are on the menu?

[@sillycoda1084]

PSA: Anyone using discrete GPUs with DisplayPort cables to connect to their monitors will get a BLANK SCREEN after install. The only way to get video out post-install prior to install nvidia-drivers (WHY IS IT NOT INSTALLED BY DEFAULT ALREADY OMG) is via HDMI. So get out a HDMI capable monitor/cable and attach to it and voila. Install your Nvidia or AMD proprietary discrete drivers and boom, DisplayPort works. It's been like this since Debian 8/9 I think. It's annoying as heck.

[@instrutordearmamento]

Maybe it's my F pŕocessor, but i didn´t get a blank screen. It worked fine =)

[@joeynoname7023]

I love Linux, but why would I want the hell and misery of trying install Debian. Good video. you could names it, to hell and back with Debian 12. LOL, Just kidding.

[@areriff]

yep. no debian for me.

[@Skyman12808]

Hey Mr Chris Are you shilling Nix os that much because fedora is also great

[@LarsOksendal]

Disappointed that you gave up on Nix after a quick config 😢

[@jameskellam2980]

Hah, even the experts have these "linux" moments! I have broke so many fully working systems. Last week I installed nobara. Everything worked! Even all the audio stuff, Reaper, Ardour, etc. Then I opened the package manager to add a few programs and was prompted to update the system. I did and BANG! Audio gone. Sux cause that is what I wanted the most in Linux. Every few years I try Linux again cause audio creation in Linux is such a P I A, and I had just watched a video where it finally works. Nope, never does. Maybe one day they will fix it.

[@tanmaypanadi1414]

i stopped geting notification from twitch i guess. i never get to watch you live any more.😢

[@robertkrig8648]

As a long time sysadmin and Debian user, this was painful to watch.

[@pyntux]

I am on partitioning part of video... Just quick question... Why not zram? I made only / and ESP, and zram after boot in to system...

[@xanderplayz3446]

I thought this was about libncurses-dev from the title.

[@diana-uf3xg]

Hey man you need constant change !

[@oscs4556]

Why not use home manager for the nix packages for one configuration file ? Instead of nix-env.

[@bladman9700]

funfact, the way devs came up with the name "nala" is an interesting story(trust me bro) actually devs were horny, they were watching some @n@l stuff, and then after rearranging the letters of it, they came up with nala, aka, devs=horny. bad dev.

[@simple-minded-nerd]

This seemingly took longer than 40 minutes

[@unclefester9113]

Easier than NixOS that’s for sure

[@davidwayne9982]

SEE-- it' s YOU messing with stuff that ALREADY WORKS--- so quite simply put you may have FIXED one thing- but you F...D up something ELSE-- so there IS NO CURSE in Debian--- except as YOU put one in there.... it's GREAT- and super fast compared to what it was last time I tried it. It's up even with ARCH and faster than some.. definitely a lot more ROCK SOLID.. I just replaced the FIREFOX-esr wtih the latest FLATPAK and same for my TElegram and the rest was FINE...

[@TitusTechTalk]

Haha, its a personal curse... the hdmi switcher identified as a 4k @ 30hz by the installer gave me a black screen. It would have happened in any installer. The first time it was a bad USB drive... The second time... it was a bad iso back when debian released daily builds. The installer is fine and Debian is the best Linux distro out there and the one I'd choose if I could only choose one.

[@merlingt1]

Is this the written version of Tourette Syndrome?

[@bondjames5249]

500 mb ram usage is not fine

[@coffee-is-power]

Nooo, you didn't leave nix os, thats a crime

[@jkarimkhani]

I it just me or does Debiantitus sound like potential name for the next variant?

[@gklinger]

Why not just stick with NixOS? It seems to make you happy.

[@LLPOF]

Should have entitled the video "Why Linux still sucks in 2023"

[@louisfifteen]

To make a very short story very very loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong, I choose to not download the Debian12 iso and install it. Instead I want to make my own script which no newbie like me can follow.

[@StormOS_Dev_Channel]

chris lol you should've gone back to auckland university having so many failed tries! rip your pc

[@n5ifi]

Wow, it's almost as good as Ubuntu 20.04......1st install 2020.............................uh ya stillllllllllllll running on my deck top and 2007 model laptop

[@jimmyrichards5595]

Cursed? Of course Debian has ncurses! 😄

[@TitusTechTalk]

Ncurses disk usage is amazing! ncdu ... changed my life.

[@jimmyrichards5595]

@@TitusTechTalk Yes, ncdu is a great example of ncurses. An ncurses program that I use just about every day is Aptitude. What a doozy that one is! Cheers!

[@CraigOlson]

nix is boring to you now?? you didnt even get into flakes, home manager, etc..

[@Olorin-wp9it]

You are not cursed, it's just that Debian SUCKS! I tried 3 times to install it and it refused. DHCP issue, which exists since 2008, unresolved.

[@Hellohellohello803]

Don't feel bad. I've been there.