How We Are Proving the Diesel-Electric Retrofit Kits Work

[@SGTMinguez]

I can't believe this project doesn't have a tidal wave of followers. Truly the most interesting, most realistic way to reduce emissions and without decimating infrastructure unprepared for full electrification.

[@TheMainLead]

Easy to suppress if youre a powerful lobby

[@Jacobtheunwise]

Probably because most people aren't interested in the project but the final results

[@termiterasin]

really weird you think major auto manufacturers would stand behind this project... oh wait they can't sell more trucks with a retrofit kit!

[@toniradolovic]

@SGTMinguez Yeah no it's not...this comment just proves you are brainwashed like them, it takes 1500 galons of fuel for just one of those gigantic macines in just one day to mine all those things needed for makint the electric car battery, and it take 2 week's to mine minerals just to make one battery....and after that how much more electicity need's to be produced to power all these electric car bullshit

[@BerlinghoffRasmussen]

People are soured to the EV market. It makes sense.

[@MrGerd]

I like that you are developing this live on air with us. You don't force the tests to get results so your product seems reasonable, you are open to suggestions and I suppose you read comments to have open dialogue. That's nice. Keep up the great work!

[@asbjrnantonsen325]

As an engineer I like the scientific approach. Cool to see all the technology and learning more about it 👍 thanks for sharing and for putting in the work!

[@athoutx]

As a field worker, who shows engineers how to do their job, I agree.

[@jimurrata6785]

Interesting that these people think they can get around the laws of thermodynamics. This isn't a freight train, or anything even close.

[@FoolOfATuque]

@@jimurrata6785I think you misunderstood the reasoning for all this. It’s about creating efficiencies that can’t exist with a traditional ICE vehicle. An internal combustion engine is typically efficient at a certain RPM. Variable RPMs like when you’re rowing through gears is quite inefficient. So they shoot for that RPM when designing the generator which maximizes efficiency. So the engine in the final truck will run at a constant rpm. Which lowers fuel consumption. That’s benefit 1. In a traditional ICE vehicle you have brake pads that turn the energy you put into getting the vehicle moving into heat. Hybrids have electric motors on their axles. A motor that is spun by the wheels will generate electricity which recovers some of the energy instead of losing it to heat and also creates drag slowing the car. This is called regenerative braking. That’s benefit two. When you’re running a traditional ICE engine you also idle at stop lights which is very inefficient. This design will eliminate that since it has electric heat and AC. It’s not about defying the laws of thermodynamics. It’s about making a system more efficient.

[@jimurrata6785]

@@FoolOfATuque I understand that. It still doesn't change the idea of turning motion into electricity and electricity into motion. There's absolutely no way that this can improve on traditional ICE found in loco's

[@Phynellius]

it's much easier to sell people on the idea when you show them the full picture from a laymen's perspective, I know I'm interested

[@user-wm9pj2xj7z]

I love to see chase taking the blame for the incorrect axle considering there was tons of variables that could’ve made it wrong there, really shows good character. If Edison and the team all act like this they will succeed

[@henkoosterhof5947]

@@user-wm9pj2xj7z i think that is the canadian way. Dont sue, dont nag, but how can we solve this. Also the company were it was assembled. Lets make spacers and solve 2 things. Lets give a tumbs up for these guys who makes miracles and future happen.

[@BenReese]

Incorrect specs is the #1 complaint I've heard about ordering custom-designed parts from China. Followed closely by quality control, so I hope that doesn't bite Edison Motors / Deboss in the butt. Way to overcome it with custom stand-offs though!

[@AbsolutionArmament]

​​@@BenReesesadly the only reason they had to do that was because NA companies didn't want to work with them. Initially Eaton screwed them over on a promotion deal then ghosted them. By the time they got in contact again they wouldn't sell the axles for the prototyping and would only sell a massive quantity.

[@RobertBoston-n4d]

So im guessing its hard for you to admit when your wrong, and you dont tend to do it yourself. Why though? Its not for me....

[@user-wm9pj2xj7z]

@@RobertBoston-n4d if your talking about me, I accept and admit I’m wrong quite often it’s just interesting because you generally don’t hear ceos admit there at fault even though there is tons of variables at play

[@adamgleeson342]

I work at the resource centre where you did the dyno testing. I could hear the CO monitors going off when you guys did the 5.9L testing 😂 It's great to see the equipment being used for awesome projects like this! I had my 1988 first gen dodge at the lab earlier this summer as well so I have you guys beat for oldest vehicle in the lab 😂😂

[@benjamindelnat9448]

Has to be the most important automotive project on KZbin by a wide margin!

[@-_-----]

(Beside the Omega..... yes)

[@garykerney2488]

Commenting just so the algorithm boosts this video. It deserves to blow up.

[@waylonk2453]

Right with you on that

[@kylejuve5494]

Indeed

[@ResourceRentals]

Did it?

[@jebediahkerman3946]

Really can't wait to see how this tech performs. Want to do the conversion in my motorhome. This gives better hauling power, and the genset can be tied into the house batteries and electrical to eliminate the second generator. And with solar on the roof I can get some free miles when sitting and boondocking for a few days.

[@zupcompany]

100%

[@Surfzap63]

I am interested in this too! I love having a truck. I use the crap out of it. Having it more efficient and better performance is exciting! Imagine being able to power your job site, campsite or even your house if needed without having to buy a whole new truck. I’m sure there will be options to route electricity to inverters or your house’s electrical system.

[@verteup]

​@@Surfzap63yea this is the most exciting prospect for me. The ability to power the house when power goes out. With the weather the way it is we're all gonna have to get used to the grid going down.

[@barkobama7385]

Ya im also daydreaming about one of these conversions in a motorhome. Cover the roof in solar panels, and having the traction battery tied into the house electrics, would be quite a unit.

[@Sah-o5m]

Deboss and Edison Greetings from SLC Utah. I agree 100% with your approach. I see the vision and plan and budget. Don't let the negative Nellie's derail people who are actually getting stuff done. You're doing hard work. 20% of people will disagree with everything we do all the time anyway. For what it's worth, I'm with you. Chin up. You guys got this :) I hope one day to see a version of Black Beauty, aka The Road Locomotive, aka the Ram-Recharger hauling a heavy trailer up a mountain while passing big rigs like they're standing still AND getting better fuel economy at the same time. The ultimate hot shot rig. Carry on! God speed.

[@technewb8241]

I'm absolutely thrilled to be able to order the e-axles. Straight EV would never work for my application, but being able to run an on-board generator to keep me moving and saving fuel costs will absolutely pay for itself in as little as a year

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

Watching this series intently. Have a kit reserved and a gen 3 to put it in.

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

Did they require a deposit?

[@jaykanngiesser3454]

@@RYTHMICRIOT Yes. $250 Cdn, but that was in initial offering. Not sure current situation. Go to their website to reserve.

[@dwil9743]

@@jaykanngiesser3454you have to pay full kit amount which is half a new pickup. 50k is crazy to spend on a kit. I was going to do the same for my 04 Cummins but I read that and there’s no way I can pay 50k even though it’s amazing

[@JohnnyD1993]

​@@dwil9743most importantly, that kit *DOES NOT* have any form of warranty if you don't use one of their licensed installers.

[@dwil9743]

@@JohnnyD1993 damn this I did not know. Thank you

[@Red9GearHeads]

Real people making real things. You are the driving force of a healthy society. Great work fellas.

[@truetierra]

This should have like 10M+ views. This is truly incredible!!!

[@pedroramos1150]

This is the craziest and most ambitious project I’ve seen on KZbin, which not only is cool, but has a real world product coming soon. This is awesome and can’t wait to see more!

[@MASS1866]

Im so proud that a bunch of good down to earth Canadian boys at DeBoss and Edison are rolling up their sleeves and getting this figured out. I think there will be fewer growing pains in this process with all of the practical experience these people have. I hope sometime in the future to use this setup to resurrect my own old beast. Good luck!! From Saskatchewan.

[@E_L12]

This is hands down, the coolest, most indepth project going on KZbin. Love it.

[@feron450]

I’ve been saying for years if manufacturers want to lower fuel consumption they need to make diesel electric hybrids. Glad to watch this come to fruition

[@caddys0n22s]

This is the most interesting and informative build I've seen in a while. As a diesel enthusiast and as an IT technologist, I've always wondered why we cant use diesel/Elec like trains do. I really hope this catches on and becomes the most popular route for vehicle tech in all auto manufacturers.

[@brunsy1990]

Still think one of the absolute best options yall could offer is an E-3rd member for the ford 9-in. Millions of those axles have been produced over the years and that axle has been offered aftermarket in varied track widths for decades.

[@Sharkey_t]

the problem with a 9" is its only a passenger car and half ton truck axle at best. most of the people wanting a pickup ev conversion are 250-550 sized trucks.

[@verteup]

​@@Sharkey_tit's one of the best half ton axles ever made. Definitely a half ton axle.

[@danielandfrancineturner669]

I have goose bumps. I want a job. Glory to God. The future right before our eyes. Awesome!!

[@ianmckay1780]

Rich, what you have achieved so far is brilliant. As far as the wrong spec axles are concerned, so what, if you don't try, you never know! Someone is going to try something off the wall, so if you can say "that don't work", then you demystify the problems for others. This is what I love about this whole build programme, integrity throughout! Of course there will be problems, that is the point of testing, but there guys show it warts 'n all. I love this crew as a whole! WELL DONE Deboss/Edison Motors everyone involved!!!!!!!!!! From UK.

[@StretchMiller509]

I am excited for everyone who is involved in this project. My friends and I have talked for years about why there isn't a diesel electric consumer vehicle. I have been following your steps on the Ram since you announced it and I am hopeful that I'll be buying a successful conversion in the years to come. Love this work guys!

[@TonicofSonic]

These guys are impressive. But whoever designed and built that CNC machine is a GOD.

[@alpha2gproject783]

I used to always wonder about this when I was a kid when Prius and other hybrids were all the rage. You guys are putting in the work and it's amazing how much more thorough you seem to be than the big manufacturers and how great it is that you're willing to attempt this. Manufacturers are after that dollar. They really couldn't care about emissions unless there was good money to be made at someone else's expense. If this could be sold as a lot for trucks I bet you could sell a bunch because I know for one that there's plenty of people out there who have good trucks they've had for a long time they don't want to replace with new who are worried that the EPA branch of the SS will make vehicles we currently own illegal due to emissions when it's really about control.

[@microbiologycory10]

Read up on CAFE Standards MPG fines by year…manufacturers are on the hook for $150 per 1 mpg per vehicle sold under the mandated target…if they miss it 10 mpg…it costs them $1150. If they sell a million vehicles the fine is over $1B…still think they aren’t motivated?

[@alpha2gproject783]

But the thing is, they've had 20 years to develop hybrid diesel technology but instead they focused on either crossovers and large trucks or full electric. They did away with vehicles like the small to midsize segment to chase the dollar instead of thinking ahead. They're so far behind in technology in all fronts because they thought their cash cows were going to last forever but they didn't.

[@microbiologycory10]

@@alpha2gproject783 Toyota has 50 patents for solid state battery technology and components…they’re not asleep…only playing possum!

[@Surfzap63]

@@alpha2gproject783Yeah. Capitalism. Toyota’s on the right path, and now so are Honda, Hyundai/Kia and Ford too with its hybrid F150. People do want these vehicles, so eventually the other manufacturers will follow the market demand. Still, I am excited for the development of these kits. I think they could create a new demand for skilled mechanics and shops to do the retrofits on big fleet vehicles and tractor trucks.

[@AceEverett]

I'm keeping my 7.3 in my OBS forever, but it's sounding pretty enticing to be able to add electric axles to increase mpg and power. Can't wait to see this project finished.

[@anthonyshaw9383]

I love my 1996 7.3 but another one with this setup would be great.

[@autismion]

I refuse to buy a new truck. I want to get a OBS shell, a zf s6 and a drop in 7.3 engine, seems it'd still be cheaper. I hope this kit can also be more reliable and less annoying to deal with than automatic transmissions.

[@gregjames5070]

The only thing gayer than a dodge fanboy is a 7.3 fanboy.

[@gotthumbs2235]

Looking forward to the investment notification. I have an 03 dodge Cummins (160,000 miles) so the idea of using the existing engine is intriguing, but the 2.8 would be lighter, should be more efficient, plus the resale price of the 5.9l could help towards the kit. Loving this collaboration on the kits.

[@A_Frog_from_mars12]

I swear this guy used to come in to fix the V12 and V16 diesel and natural gas generators at my old job in oshawa ON. Great guy.

[@brendonwilliams4050]

It is nice to see a conversion kit like this that can be done by your average shade tree mechanic.

[@spacebike420]

This is my favorite build on youtube!

[@seaglider844]

This is the most practical means of using the advantages of electric powered vehicles where the amount of energy using batteries alone won't do. Towing large loads, where recharging infrastructure isn't available, in more extreme climates (cold)....etc. If this kind of vehicle was available I'd be buying it today. Great work guys!

[@glacius331]

sadly we're waiting for the ramcharger to actually hit the market to see it in the real world, and the info on that is slim to none up to this point

[@microbiologycory10]

@@glacius331 Rancharger isn’t diesel…Pentastar gas.

[@misc_]

Proud to be part of this…❤

[@BobSmith1980.]

I really like that truck the way you built it. It looks great and I honestly think this is the future of all vehicles

[@toyomatt84]

I love this series. I'm hoping all this effort showcases MASSIVE improvements in both fuel economy and drivability (I kind of expect it to, but I can add hope on top of just expectation).

[@36browneyedman]

My face hurts from smiling so much! So happy for you guys I can’t wait to see how it turns out!!

[@Phantom0309]

does this rolling road have the ability to motor the wheels, ie simulate regen? then you could do a longer cycle where it would be possible to show any strengths of the battery + motor half of the powertrain

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Yes, it will simulate going down hills by powering the wheels

[@nugpole8836]

Thank you guys for doing something that is real, that is actually going to be effective in the long run, something that makes sense given where we are now. I'm an engineer and I've been after this concept for a long time. Given some of the problems you've been having with the e-axles and fitment, I wonder if it would be worth it to get a hold of a Ford Lightning or a Silverado EV and maybe work backwards a little bit. Maybe you could drop the Repower in the "frunk" of the Lightning. Seems to me that you might be able to develop this technology working from both ends of the spectrum. There may be EV owners out there that also realize how this could benefit them and they'd like the option to be able to fill up at the thousands of gas stations that already exist instead of waiting for our electrical grid to collapse under the weight of everyone plugging their vehicles in a night. At the very least, you grab a Lightning and figure out what axles Ford and/or Chevy are using for their EVs. I hate to cheat off other people's homework here but it also seems wrong the re-invent the wheel, so to speak.

[@Trad-Am]

I'm gonna be waiting patiently, for an HD IFS conversion, for GM HD pickups. The IFS in stock configuration isn't as strong as a solid axle, but it can be with upgrades, and it rides so much better, I don't want a solid axle swap. A large central located electric motor, to drive the front IFS, would do the trick.

[@21ZacDUDE]

I fricken love this project you guys are working on. I really hope you all succeed to the max! Super excited.

[@BillyJankens]

Yes!! Finally!! I've been saying it for years!! We need miniature trains!! There is deffly a good reason why the big manufacturers have not offered a diesel over electric in all these years!!

[@LokiCDK]

I looked on the website recently, and you have a bunch of shops near me who signed up. I'm getting excited.

[@barnhouseinc]

How is it possible that nobody knows about this?? I'm not a big electric car guy but...this is so cool and interesting! Sending love to my brothers up in the frozen north 😅CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE OF THIS!!

[@Toefoo100]

I have a 2000 ford ranger I'd love to see that on one. Probably massively overkill, but that's the fun part

[@ctibpo991]

Those front axles don't necessarily all need to go on the front. Could have some all wheel steering fun! 😊

[@jamessmith7691]

I got hooked on your videos back when you were working on farm tractors. Slowly it graduated into pickup trucks ect.and now these tests on your Dodge . Yup still have interest for this ole guy. Great shows , keepem coming.

[@iamahood1]

Awesome! Much more in this update than I thought possible. Someone says jump they better have the skylight open for you!

[@timberthewolf733]

Love that bolt in electric drive units are becoming more of a thing, that truck is beautiful. Id use that over my model 3 instantly.

[@jonathonalsop2120]

I've always checked in from time to time on this channel. Now I'm subbed, this is exciting!

[@JSCB-365]

I'm 10 seconds into this video. Deboss has done some cool engine swaps. Even tells you what's wrong with the engine he's using for the swap takes the time to fix that. Always Always takes the time to get the wiring right. He's as much a swap and diesel swap guy as he is a tuner or hot rodder. These new diesel hybrids may be a thing here. I'd do one if my sponsorship allows

[@cdoublejj]

i'm truly impressed yall wee able to drop everything and do all this, this is just the cuts of what we do see, as in to think of all the work behind the scenes that went in to this. nice work guys!

[@kubiedubie]

This is an impressive amount of work that you guys have accomplished. Looking good so far, keep it up!

[@jessecoplin6356]

Real deal. Real people doing good work on good ideas.

[@geraldgepes]

Great work, to all the teams involved on this. I'm excited to see the numbers after electrification and just as interested in seeing the scope of work for the conversion.

[@x537nTheoneofnone]

I want to see this done on some smaller trucks too. A diesel hybrid off road rig would be insane!

[@spoof2245]

Sweet work guys cant wait to see something like this in the 90s 00s saburbans expeditions and excursions

[@ericbrinson9741]

It’s so cool what you guys and Edison are doing. I think you’re really onto something

[@tobybirtwhistle430]

In Australia we have recently seen a large uptake in larger american pickups. This is the only one I could actually be interested in.... Great initiative.

[@renosgarage7451]

Good, big trucks are great

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

I like the little trucks you guys use. Our trucks are too big for no reason. A full size truck from 20 years ago looks like a toy when compared to the modern compact pickup.

[@tobybirtwhistle430]

@@Happyfacehotwheels I drive a 2lt Volkswagen Amarok. Don't believe it's available in the US. Best ute I've ever owned. Cheap to run. Tows 3 tonne with ease. Can park it in any undercover garage......

[@Happyfacehotwheels]

@@tobybirtwhistle430 I never heard of them so I looked it up on KZbin. They look like a useful little truck. Towing 3 ton is impressive as that's around what my full size truck with a 350 "5.7" is rated for.

[@memsu06]

I do engineering in HVAC controls making buildings more efficient. Finally someone is working on something that's actually feasible for transportation. The electrical needs of a fleet of Tesla semi trucks is enormous. You would need a power plant for a large truck stop to charge them. Go look at the size of the transformers at these car charging stations. It might even be larger than the transformer that feeds a commercial building. Infrastructure and battery storage wise we are no where close to going full electric. Diesel electric is the way to go between now until battery technology improves. It's the only way to go for long haul trucking, mining, shipping, etc. I'm really surprised large manufacturers aren't doing more research into this.

[@microbiologycory10]

People got too infatuated with EVs to realize they are application restricted until battery tech (ie energy density) comes a LOOOOONG WAY! Hybrids are the stepping stone until batteries get way better…

[@gormauslander]

Then build nuclear and solar power plants...

[@memsu06]

@@gormauslander I'm all for nuclear energy. It really is zero emissions. Solar is limited by how many watts per square meter you can get which is roughly 1KW/sq meter at sea level.

[@gormauslander]

@@memsu06 Most US residential housing has more square meters on the roof than 30, which is the number of kilowatt-hours they average in a day. We have enough area on roofs alone to power the grid and more. I don't know the figures on the cost per kw of that vs a big ol nuclear plant.

[@gormauslander]

@@memsu06 the US is huge, we definitely have the space to do it, especially on rooftops. Some sources say nuclear is 10x more expensive per kw than solar, but I assume that doesn't factor in the cost of a battery system to stabilize the solar

[@TinyTJ04]

I'm so excited this is being tested and proven. I've wanted diesel electric for a long time and you guys are paving the way.

[@easystockoptions4067]

I've got a 1950 F1 that would love to meet that Ranger size axle 😀

[@barkobama7385]

This is such a great project, i can't wait to see the results.

[@vinceabrassart8686]

This is so exciting! I wish I was a part of this. I’ve been working on this idea for years and never had the funding to acquire all the necessary machining, power plants etc. It’s so nice to see this coming together. I can’t wait!!!

[@rolandohiebert2144]

This project should have everyones support, It's crazy that all the environmentalists aren't all over this.

[@alecjosephson7275]

This is amazing! Great work! I’m excited to see the add on to original power plant

[@cferge]

Absolutely LOVE These Videos..... I kind of tapered off watching Deboss Garage a few years ago; This 100% got me back into watching! 🙂

[@rollinmetzger7392]

Looking like the Temu John McClain in the closing scene. Keep up the hard work, excited to see this ram come together ⚡️

[@joshuagies4900]

Love this project. Great to see folks GSD, especially for a system that provides a realistic way of being more efficient with less emissions while still performing meaningful work.

[@LeeWinkler]

Ive been following Edison from day 1....was SUPER happy to see Deboss come on board to do this... one step at a time. Ive decided in my own head that passenger vehicles will likely all go full BEV but anything HD.....anything that does "work" will become hybrid....it just makes sense efficiency and performance wise. I know that Edison is focused on specialized trucks...and while that is good to start with... I think what we will see is emissions, efficiency and performance ALL improve even on an over the road semee ;) But I digress, back to the HD pickups. I look forward to seeing the testing on the small diesel...and then on existing pickup engines....it will be fantastic to see all of the comparison data......though to be honest, you are REALLY going to have to put in some serious differences for someone to yank out their existing driveline and put in a generator and electric motors. FAR more likely to find someone with a blown engine/spun bearing, bent rod on a pickup....or an ambulance...or a delivery van.... something like that. Speaking of delivery vans....those dodge sprinters might be a good next target for you. Good luck, cant wait for the next video!

[@jamessizemore7103]

I feel like this engine would be absolutely perfect for a 1500 2nd gen. Hybrid kit aside. It would give you near the same performance with significantly better emissions without increasing weight nearly at all. I know y’all are big full size truck fans but the smaller half ton trucks need some love too, and imagine if we normalized putting small Diesel engines in them.

[@edgarcorrea7866]

Dam these guys engine swap trucks like I change my socks man. I'm so jealous 🤣

[@kevinscheimreif7866]

Best collaboration on the internet. Absolutely love this project and the goal.

[@mrricky3816]

Thanks!

[@cdnkitesurfer]

I've always wanted a system like this from a big manufacturer. It just makes sense. If train locomotives use this idea, I'm pretty sure it could work for trucks. Will be following with interest and might buy a kit if I can figure out a shop space for the swap.

[@endangeredmarmot4518]

This is super cool - amazing to see the work you guys are all putting into the development process. Can't wait to see how everything ultimately turns out.

[@paulhoskins7852]

The videos just keep getting better and better.

[@williamgrizzle8480]

I can't wait to see the post conversion numbers.

[@marvinyo5]

Well done on your progress looking forward to ordering to the UK

[@Southkonaparadise]

Have you addressed the additional unsprung weight of the electric axle and how it is going to affect the suspension dynamics and ride especially off-road ?

[@Mrwilder2012]

I've been watching your videos for quite some time now. This was a great video. I think you're going in a great direction. Keep it up man

[@OlTrailDog]

Love these gearheads. Amazing project.

[@Worlds_okayest_engineer]

I’m curious if the fuel mileage comparison on the dyno somehow takes the truck’s mass into account, or is this test only a comparison of drivetrain efficiency for the same load curve.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Mass is calculated in

[@fusion_phoenix]

I LOVE WHAT YOURE DOING DEBOSS!!

[@CaseyCannady]

Love it... love everything about this diesel-electric hybrid conversion! Can't wait to see how the end result drives and what eMPG gains are observed.

[@ericfunnell1901]

Great video. Linear development stages. Even I can understand it

[@justinlynch6691]

Also I love the hands lollll. Nothing says balls to the wall quite like test driving with the grease from under the truck still on your mitts as you roll down the road.

[@taylorpeters7135]

I’m rooting for you guys! Even if it doesn’t meet all the expectations it’s still an exciting project!

[@FORCE_PBC]

Rich, it’s amazing the speed at which you guys are working at. I really don’t know how I feel about China, but I’m very excited for all of Edison’s ideas “and yours” to go from paper to field testing. Thank you for being so transparent. This will pay off in the long run when people start learning about Edison and your ideas. Great job. I wish I had your brain. Can’t wait to see finished product.

[@Low760]

What do you mean how you feel about china? They are the biggest producer of almost anything and have been for 15 years or more. American companies sent all the work overseas as soon as they could...

[@FORCE_PBC]

@@Low760 which is the saddest part about my country. We are slaves to Chinese Amazon junk. I see what your doing tho.

[@cthulhuaid2998]

​@@FORCE_PBCIn fairness, it does seem as though theyve done their best to avoid china at all costs, but ofc if theres no alternatives and they literally can not find e axels anywhere else, id rather they grab them from china, qa/qc the shit outta thek and at least be able to complete the project

[@FORCE_PBC]

@@cthulhuaid2998 I wrote this long answer back. But YT didn’t post it, and I didn’t copy it first. I have a lot of reasons, I guess that’s my answer. Damn YT….

[@NEEDbacon]

@@cthulhuaid2998 Exactly, following Edison and checking in on this when I can. Edision went out of it's way to get stuff made here, but it simply ISN'T. So now they have to deal with the necessary evil in order to actually make and see if this is possible. And things are looking good so far.

[@Newwinggarage]

10/10 most interesting project in 2024. 😂😂 But for real, absolutely great work guys! I for one am super excited to see how things work out.

[@unknownium2753]

If you can get those axles under land cruisers underground you could have all the work you could want. I've tested the fully electric land cruisers underground and they're woefully underperforming. Ventilation and electrical supply are huge bottle necks underground so if you can reduce both this could be a game changer.

[@scottleepeters]

This is the transparency I like to see. I'm excited for my retro kit and when I'm finished testing it for myself I'm going to need 10 - 20 more over the next 10 years.

[@rhino2104]

I really hope those shorter axles are an option in the future. I'd love to put them on a narrower, classic off-road vehicle.

[@petecunnien5368]

This is the most exciting build I ever ever seen and I absolutely love seeing these videos come up!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing this with us

[@JyynxSkirata]

Super excited about this project, both on a personal level and in terms of it's potential impact on automotive industry! I have a preference for smaller trucks and from the first time I saw anything about Edison I first thought how neat it would be to have this kind of system in a pickup, particularly something like a dakota, ranger etc. Glad to be around to see the progress!

[@__WJK__]

Impressive work gentlemen!

[@344vengence]

Love it!!!! Can't wait to see the next episode, and what progress has been made.

[@frankleonard6570]

This is amazing fabrication and very clever building. Hard to believe that these guys dont get more attention than they do

[@firstdaddy]

If this proof of concept works out the way we suspect, I can see it being scaled to fit other vehicle applications. Imagine a passenger car with something like a little 1.3L Kubota diesel running at a constant RPM as a generator. It might be able to break into the 80 MPG range. This kind of development and progress is exciting.

[@kodisan08]

Absolulty love this project and the concepts! Thank you for taking the time to test all of the variations. Intriguing to say the least. I know the E-axles are designed to work with the heavy duty truck sector but i'm curious if this application would work on the heavy duty van sector as well? E250/350 sprinters etc. Might not have the engine area? Love to hear your thoughts. Best of luck as the project developes!

[@abbottbd1]

Hope to see the final prototypes tested for low traction and offroad type uses. Does the e-axle behave like an open diff or a limited slip? Could software provide a 'locker' type feature? Will you still be able to select 2 wheel or 4 wheel drive to 'disable' the front axle? Does the e axle (due to have having full torque at 1 rpm) eliminate the need for 'low range'?

[@Sah-o5m]

These are legitimate questions. The e-axle(s) that are currently being tested are pre production prototypes with 1 motor per axel and open diffs. They are temporary. The e-axles that are going into the production semi's have dual motors per axel. One for each wheel. With computer controlled traction control with different settings. The production semi's have no transmission and essentially 1 gear. So by sizing the ring gear in the pumpkin, a semi could be geared for Highway, or Off Road, but not both. It will be many many months before we see the production dual motor e-axles for the pickups. I do not know how they're handling the final drive ratio.

[@stephenwillis9721]

Excited for this project

[@lanegall6564]

Seriously thinking about having my truck done in the future.