F350 gets Air Bag Suspension! A Heavy Duty Puzzle... |

[@brandonmartin5878]

I highly recommend not tying the left and right air bag together. I've made this mistake before. With my camper on it would sway horrible. As one bag compresses it transfers air to the bag expanding amplifying the sway. Not tying the bags together is like adding another sway bar to the truck

[@gunners4129]

Truth

[@spannerworx7106]

Was looking for this comment.

[@Jwar86]

Was just going to post this exact thing, when doing mine I just used 2 Firestone dual gauge and valve kits to do left and right, front and rear 🤘

[@tomjackson1923]

I wonder if tying front and rear on the same side could be a good idea. Similar to what Citroen did with their Hydro-Pneumatic setups. So when the front axle hits a bump, it transfers air to the back, lifting it a little bit.

[@davidanderson2393]

It makes you want to run seperate air leveling valves to compensate for weight transfer. Freightliner tried to run a single leveling valve on front steer axle when they started bagging them, always leaned to the heavy side of chassis.

[@kimchipig]

Rich, these are by far the best of your videos. Sema and drag races are boring because everybody does it. What you are doing is not what everybody does, which is why it is so interesting. Thanks for the excellent video.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thank you. I really enjoy all these projects and appreciate the fact you guys see how much goes into them!

[@bobbyfoster1417]

Agree

[@FUCK_________googIe]

lmfao thats an apples to watermelons comparison none of those things are remotely similar and therefore none of them can be considered to replace the entertainment that the others provide, saying that what rich does, is a more sensible form of entertainment than drag racing is completely dumb

[@danielreed9621]

@@FUCK_________googIe I think you’re missing the point. Show me another channel doing a project like this. Now show me how many channels are building sema or drag cars, there’s a plethora to choose from. Not that I don’t enjoy those, but this is in a class of its own.

[@FUCK_________googIe]

@@danielreed9621 are you joking? I can think of a dozen channels or more that have done full frame off custom builds just in the last 6 months. And I am picky about the content that I watch, so there is probably 3 to 4 times that many channels on KZbin as a whole that have been providing this exact type of content (Just in America, there is without a doubt hundreds of Asian KZbin channels producing extremely similar content). Just because you aren't very proficient in finding this type of content to enjoy doesn't mean it isn't available in spades. Stop being a stan and acting like rich is some amazing tech doing shit that nobody else does. He isn't doing anything new, there is a constant battle on KZbin to produce the most exciting content/builds and it leads to dozens of channels putting in a shit ton of effort to build the wildest cars and trucks with the hottest and newest products and techniques etc etc. While what rich does is certifiably awesome, he isn't even remotely close to being the best on youtube at anything he does.

[@IR-nq4qv]

Rich, the F350 build is awesome, no hack job here, just like factory, It all looks like it grew there. Great engineering job.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thank you!

[@viridian839]

@@DEBOSSGARAGE The truck is looking great! If you're taking suggestions. I would suggest installing cab lights while working on headlights and the wiring. The cab lights take the truck to another level and adds a mean look to them 😂

[@frozenokiewis]

@@DEBOSSGARAGE Rich, you mentioned a balance valve or equalization valve for the bags. I run bags in my ambulances (E-450 front coils) and they had separate schrader valves. I tied them together and hooked them to the truck air system with a pressure regulator to keep the PSI at 40 but yeah the air crossing from bag to bag makes no sense. Can you post a link or name to this balancing valve you speak of? I did some searching and kinda threw up my hands as I got overwhelmed. Long time viewer and subscriber, the content is amazing cannot wait to see the 350 rollin down the road.

[@johnfuniciello]

I don’t think anyone following this series can look at this amount of engineering/knuckle-busting and honestly say to themselves, “I’m gonna build myself an F-TreeKitty”. Deboss is on his own level. Sometimes I watch builds on KZbin for inspiration, or to gather some info/knowledge for personal builds… this I watch out of pure admiration. Props to you sir, keep kicking ass!

[@perotekku]

Agree wholeheartedly. Everybody should aspire to this level of care and polish and thought in their builds. And I think lots of people could pull it off with time and commitment, but you're right to acknowledge that Rich puts in an insane amount of work to get his projects to this level.

[@Petethedeadboy]

You have a ton of awesome projects but this one is probably my favorite. It’s just so cool having a CAT motor in a f350. I’ve never seen or heard of anything quite like this beast before. Thank you for posting!

[@dknust9]

Check out drewmans driveway on KZbin. He has a sweet one with a cat engine in it.

[@roberthamilton1152]

Didn't you know that fords came with a 3208 in the 70s

[@GLOBAL-INTIFADA]

And the Allison too it's a great match all round aha

[@anomamos9095]

The thing about air bags and air shocks is you want to keep the sides separate from each other or they act like a reverse sway bar. Vehicles have actually rolled over because the weight transfer has caused the bag on the opposite side to over inflate accentuating the body roll. A good kit should have one way valves to keep the air from swapping between bags.

[@conwayfox6233]

makes sence but odd how semi truck trailors have all the air bags tied together

[@anomamos9095]

@@conwayfox6233 . They usually have massive sway bars to compensate and possibly oneway valves and plenty of examples of those that don’t on their sides.

[@conwayfox6233]

@@anomamos9095 no they dont have the one way valves. but the sway bars would make sense

[@tangydiesel1886]

@@conwayfox6233 trucks with air ride usually use a radius arm suspension. And with radius arms, the axle basically becomes a giant sway bar. Without a load, our semi will get stuck in a small divot in the ground, since there's not enough weight to compress the bushings, and no diff lock.

[@tangydiesel1886]

@@anomamos9095 on front axle air ride, they do have separate valves and lines. Talking to guys with it, they say they can feel it body roll, then compensate back to level on turns. Back axles are tied together, but how the suspension is set up, they don't articulate very much.

[@blenahan973]

One of the best builds to ever be on KZbin!

[@ElvicFarms]

And there’s still so much we don’t know. A build like this is only Possible with years of experience, I would love a CAT powered 350 but I don’t have 5 years to figure everything out lol

[@gethinjones1348]

People in future will use this series as the go to information resource for any engine transfer because it's THAT detailed and comprehensively covers all the necessary engineering needed. Great progress lads 👍🏻

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thank you very much. I realize the series is a long one, but trying to jam as much info in as short of a time as possible

[@malcolmyoung7866]

‘Long’ is good Rich.. Way more detail than supposed ‘professional’ TV shows… What is TV anyway? 🤔

[@dclfarms6204]

This is very accurate. I’ve been messing with trucks for over 30 years and consider myself quite handy( mostly ag stuff) but I learn so,etching new from Rich every video. This is the only channel I look forward to see posting. Well this and DGHD.

[@powersportsrestored5993]

Each bag really should have their own solenoid. The air will push from bag to bag as load shifts.

[@ziptiejedi5658]

I think he might be alright since he is still running leaf springs. It shouldn't be as pronounced as a truck with only air bags for suspension.

[@powersportsrestored5993]

@@ziptiejedi5658 trucks have springs as well.

[@ziptiejedi5658]

@@powersportsrestored5993 Yeah I know, I was getting the impression he is only using the bags as a helper spring and not supporting a ton of weight. I had a bagged s10 with the bag setup like Rich has on the F350. At first it had a lot of body roll and would shift the air to the side with less load like you said in your original post but it did get a ton better with just adding shocks. I figured since he has his stock suspension it wouldn't be very pronounced on the f350.

[@michaelcole4868]

Being a mechanic that's worked on many odd and crazy projects over the last 20 years I'm beyond impressed with this build! I've learned quite a few new tricks and can't wait to see this truck on the road. Bad Ass DB!

[@tinkeringtimmermans5249]

The crew cab long bed trucks tow so nice on the highway, that long wheelbase makes them so much smoother and more stable. Beauty of a truck!

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thanks man!

[@meccarepair2597]

Earliest I’ve ever been to a video. Been watching you since high school, and started my own channel because of guys like you. Your LB7 Duramax videos have been saving my butt the last week. Thanks for inspiring the next generation!

[@docsridingadventures2880]

Just subscribed to your channel keep up the good work

[@gunners4129]

Same

[@coltonmcrae5873]

Some old school class 8 leveling valves with dump switches would make the air system a very "set it and forget it" setup. Otherwise, mint setup!

[@justinwatch]

Brake systems that have drum brakes the master cylinder will have a residual check valve that the disc portion of the master won't have. You don't want to hook up the drum portion to the disc lines. It will wear out your pads quicker and smoke your rotors due to slight pressure always being applied. When you do switch over to 4-wheel disc make sure you switch the master cylinder to match so it eliminates any residual check valves in the system.

[@ionstorm66]

On the old fords the residual valve screws into the master cylinder inline.

[@justinwatch]

@@ionstorm66 Rich is reusing the 2010 F550 master and hydroboost, not the 93 master.

[@cbarnes2573]

Keep an eye on the frame where you mounted that upper bag mount. They tend to crack between the bolt holes then down the lower part of the frame. We fought that bag system on that body style truck for years. Had a fleet of them, they all did it.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thanks! Maybe I will brace it a bit more with a plate behind it

[@ionstorm66]

Yep, I have a 95 250 with a crack right there. When I got it, there where bag mounts, with no bags. The PO had welded the brackets to the frame, then had a fish plate on the inside welded over the crack.

[@abpsd73]

@@DEBOSSGARAGE That's what I did, 1/4" plate to span the frame rail top to bottom, as long as possible to sit flat against the rail.

[@shawncoffman2679]

Man I am in AWE of this project. I would love having a CAT swapped F350 crew cab from the early-mid-90's

[@crezychameau]

Once again, the amount of work on any of your project boggles my mind. If I had to do this the fan shroud alone would probably take me 6 months the big tree kitty looks so good ! :D

[@ToreDL87]

One of the most serious builds on your channel, in terms of standard of finish for each component. Coolest thing is, you've showed/done it in such a incremental "battle after battle" way that we don't feel overwhelmed.

[@CarswithNash]

Looking really good Rich!👌👍

[@lyndonhamby7432]

Best Furd ever. No power joke in it 😂😂😂😂 Good job Rich 👍

[@LJ-fe8vb]

You continue to impress me. The engineering, creativity, experience, money, patience, workmanship, and connections one has to have to make something of this quality, is actually insane. Mad respect! And that cat engine looks really cool in that Ford! I was wondering, in Norway we have inspections on our cars every other year. Something like this would not be possible to drive on the road legally. How are the laws on modifying cars in Canada? :)

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Make it look like it came out of the factory that way!

[@ChiefKh420]

I've really grown found of the OBS Ford trucks, maybe it's nostalgia, maybe it's after watching your videos for years. Either way this build is turning out amazing!

[@joseflavallee8577]

I see I an not the only one who stocks up on Canadian Tire cutoff disks. Very handy to have around. I always keep an extra stack on hand.

[@AverageJoeBuilds]

I've used so many of the little tips and tricks from this build on my own Crewcab build for the channel. Seriously this thing is just the biggest motivation and I'm so stoked to see it out smoking and making noise

[@miguelsouderado3459]

I appreciate you taking the time to document these builds.

[@nicks_mix]

"I hope you guys get inspired to get going on your own project." Well, yessss, if I had about 1/20th the mechanical and planning abilities that Rich has, I might get going on it! 😁

[@minnesotatomcat]

I can’t wait to see the final weight of the truck when it’s all done!!

[@chrisaquaro9901]

I cannot wait to hear this run and see it drive. Evrything is for sale for the right price right rich

[@jimdieseldawg3435]

Great build! Should go quite well, too… over here in the UK the 3126B was used in 26-tonne GVW concrete mixers with a Knowles camshaft PTO. Minus the PTO drag and about 21 tonnes it should be kinda peppy 😁🤟🏼

[@jamescole5658]

I’m lining this project, that intake is just incredible and dying to be shiny ✨ 😂

[@fordmustanggt1984]

Firstly this is my favorite build on KZbin at the moment, I have 4 of these old 4 doors and seeing this is some serious motivation to finish them. One note about the brake master cylinder I'd like to mention is that the factory lines on all my trucks have the forward port going to the front brakes and rear port to the rear, with the residual pressure valve for the rear drum brakes. If you upgrade to rear discs that valve isn't needed but if you're keeping the drums its important for the self adjustment mechanism.

[@KaiserBruh]

that guitar intro for the Cat F350 videos are literally a dose of hype man i get so excited to see what work Rich has done on it

[@chrislaun]

This was such an amazing episode, the thought and effort you put into your builds is inspiring! Can’t wait to see the truck on the road!

[@mikedaly4198]

For the intake mani I heard a saying, it comes out nice coz we do it twice

[@mrolsen6987]

What an nice ride that truck is going to be! 👌

[@Kersean]

I never looked at your merch store before thinking your in Canada and wouldn't ship to Ireland but yous do.. gonna get me a couple of hats 👍👍

[@fonhollohan2908]

Man as the Kids would say, Rich, " That Truck is Sick." I just love what you've got done with this truck. Its gonna be one Halevi Truck when she's all buttoned up!

[@larrydavidson3402]

Coming along nicely Rich, this has been an epic build, can't wait to see it on the road.

[@cameronbutler5802]

It’s nice to see you really in your element as far as putting a build together. I remember when you 4BT swapped that Tahoe and look how far y’all have come!

[@strato_5459]

that fan shroud is bad ass. as long as its covered no one can see it but it doesnt look bad either way. while back i was designing a custom gauge pod, and i was adding screw holes to mount it. i didnt have any small enough screw drivers to be confident in mounting it properly, so i put holes in the top of the pod for my screw driver or impact driver. what having a 3D printer can do for a guy

[@DMSparky]

Insane amounts of time and effort while still being practical! Gonna be mint!

[@kyleblair4764]

If I spent that much time working on something to make it that nice, I would hit a deer with it about a week later. Hope your luck is better than mine. Truck looks sweet. 👍🏻

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

It has crossed my mind!

[@mrolsen6987]

@@DEBOSSGARAGE Put a big ass bullbar on it! 😂

[@Paul_VanGo]

Rich, you could put a bleed valve where the two top radiator hoses meet. This way it looks a bit more purposeful.

[@campingwithhomer7371]

I could only dream of pulling my RV with the truck and that engine! So cool!

[@caveone-365]

Vince stackin them dimes!!! Nice work on the intake mani. Looks worlds better than the first one and should flow nicely 👍😎

[@johnnytarponds9292]

Took a drink of beer every time you said "bracket". I can no longer feel my legs and I've lost my eyesight. Good video!

[@someshadetreeguy3867]

Really did motivate me to work on my own project but didn’t realize till rich said it lol

[@BuildSomethingAuto]

Vince holds his tig rod in his teeth between welds 🤣 never seen that before, pretty funny.

[@nickjames2267]

Love the OBS original bus swap!

[@MacPoop]

I rarely leave comments on KZbin, but feel the need to here; Of years and years of KZbin channels, past & present, DeBoss Garage has by far and away been in my all time top 5 favorite channels pretty much since day #1. And of all KZbin/TV vehicle builds I have seen in my 40yrs I cannot express exactly why, the FTreeKitty sit among my top *3* all time favorites (mostly for its purely *organic* design and build --!!!--). This is how all building should be done. Even my dad, who mostly hates resto-mods absolutely loves this thing to death!

[@HashCracker]

Awesome project. Im looking forward to seeing it rip

[@ryan_etzel]

1:02 I don't care how many times I watch it. That bus body coming off is fantastic. :-)

[@MIKEH.777]

Your doing a fantastic job on this build it's mind blowing 🤯 just saying wow between this build and the Semi build I would be all mixed up . So MAD RESPECT to you Sir. I can't wait until you are cruisen down the road in that beautiful Ford and I'm a Chevy guy. I'm really interested in this build sweet truck. Keep up the great work and God Bless you and your family.

[@CompletePerformance]

So glad we could help with this!

[@chipanzee7507]

Rich is probably the smartest man on KZbin. The shit he comes up with and the things he builds blow my mind.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thank yuo! i Apprisiate that alot!

[@sixpest]

That Gavril D series is lookin real fine; I really like this build, its gonna be the coolest pickup truck build I've ever seen for sure!

[@rjl110919581]

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE VIDEO

[@streetstomper]

making great progress on my dream truck i see lol hands down the one vehicle I am itching to get, one day I will own one for sure onnnnne day

[@peterhatch1583]

This is a real credit to you ! One of the better builds out there best for you thks

[@MikhailScottKy]

Upper rad hose....... Consider a support bracket where the center coupler is going just behind the rad.

[@yanelld.4220]

i like your stile filming and cutting. also the work and your charakter.

[@PeterHatch-mx7zc]

Lot work looking good

[@CloudHindlen]

Very inspired to rebuild my two truck's this year again for the 4th time...😁 Yay...😩...lot of work. One is a 1993 Ford f250 with a International 7.3IDI Diesel getting a whole new 2006 f250 frame, Fass Fuel, and 2006 Super duty 4x4 Axle's... The other is a carbureted 350 Chevy 3/4 ton getting Holley Sniper EFI and a 7 inch Holley digital dash and a whole new camshaft and roller rocker's from Lunati...as well as all the other small stuff like A/C and headlight's and maintenance stuff.

[@johnknox5692]

ya got a lot of stuff done, it starting to look good af, its so nice to see a cat in a ford

[@GreatnPwrfulSteve]

Love the progress!

[@damianjackson9084]

Love this build

[@jeremymanley5256]

On these obs trucks you might think about stiffening the door handle mount points. You will experience broken door handle at some point, rolling the window down to unlatch sucks. You can look at Complete Performance reinforcing plate, they are great folks that support the 1980 to 1997 obs trucks and broncos.

[@BBBoiko2004]

Rich, you have the best projects on youttube.

[@gary8483]

Parking pawl....no "R" in pawl. love your videos.

[@cribbage1686]

Amazing job!

[@kenmurray4232]

F-Tree Kitty is looking good. Great idea for the oil dipstick tube, so I think I'm stealing the idea for my 5.0 litre to relocate it.

[@ReNeu60]

Really impressive build. I am sure you have run into the theory of " I fix this issue and caused 2 more problems to solve" That is part of the fun problem solving but once in a while easy button is nice. Having someone to weld aluminum for you is special. Super nice work all around from what I can see here. I do need to motivated to do some of my little projects maybe today I will work on getting my air bags to be able to inflate with my compressor I have for my exhaust brake without messing with the exhaust brake function.

[@JustYourAvarageJoe]

Im so jealous of this build good work

[@minnesotatomcat]

I got a 97 and yeah it’s got that same oddly bent sway bar, they just don’t look right but seem to work ok as long as u put new urethane bushings in it as the original rubber ones often rotted right out. Great video, air ride rocks, got a kit on the rear of my 99 👍

[@ionstorm66]

Same on my 95. Truck drove like crap when I got it. Pulled front and rear sway bars from junkyard. With new bushings it make a world of difference. Looked just like what he has.

[@mattw1393]

Vince saving the day once again. What a good mate.

[@nathanparker3703]

I'm loving this 3126 CAT build. Have you ever considered a Mack build in the future? Maybe an E7? Then you can have a Cat and Dog.

[@alexfaught8717]

It would be a travesty to paint that intake, polish that thing up and show off the fab work that went into making it!

[@andrewkarppinen4348]

Lot's good progress. Can't wait to see it up and running.

[@kevinwright1551]

Vary awesome indeed. Nice 👍 on getting the stuff together man. Vary sweet indeed . The dream come together sweet indeed. Take it easy and have a great day too.

[@robh.8214]

Wicked CAD work!!!! Cardboard Aided Design!!!!

[@huntergodsey1765]

VGG would be proud of the hsss hssss rebuild 🤣.

[@Bysin769]

Kelderman suspension!!

[@abpsd73]

Add reinforcing plates to the inside of the rear air bag mounts. Those wimpy little washers Firestone gives you are not enough to keep the air bag brackets from flexing the frame rail, leading to cracking over time. Common issue a lot of OBS Ford guys have had.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Thank you. Will definitely do that. I'll see if I can get some channel that fits.

[@bernhard8540]

I gotta wait for this last bit of snow storms to end and melt some before I can work on my second truck haha and I don't have a shop yet.. otherwise I'd be watching and working during this snowstorm haha

[@FoolOfATuque]

Grab your Timmies! It’s F-Tree Kitty time! I was working on my dads ‘48 F1 with a 460 yesterday. We’re trying to improve the cooling system so we bought a Flexalite fan with shroud for the aluminum radiator. Mounted it and will do the controller next weekend

[@WouterB76]

Two right hands and a good sense of humor.

[@petecunnien5368]

Damn I love this build!! If you were to build this for another, what would you charge for a build like this? Really really nice work Rich!! You are by far my favorite builder

[@joshhelland8836]

I'm glad your sticking with the true Ford way of stuffing it so tight you can't fit your finger tips into anything 😀 Good use of space Rich well done! 👍

[@jedyoung8359]

Accurate

[@bradregelous1879]

Could you please put a Vince on your merch store? Everyone needs a Vince

[@frankhengstler6101]

Can’t wait to see the F tree kitty on the road ! Keep after it👍👍

[@divadyrdnal]

Solid video, thanks Rich! Still “hacking” on my radiator support in my Cummins swap. It’s always the small things that take the most time.

[@williamoverton7265]

Looks great

[@sgan937]

Yes buddy, love this from Australia, keep up the gate work boss

[@ttinnovations3310]

ADD SeaLight LED fan Less LED bulbs from Amazon, I've put them on 8 cars now and no issues, ran them over 14hrs straight and 12,000 miles on a cross country trip and no issues.

[@larryrussomanno9217]

2 things. That truck is turning into a work of art. Also Vince does NOT f… around 😂

[@keith_hudson]

All in all, this is the most beautiful truck I've ever seen.

[@fordmuscleluis9710]

I've been waiting to see a video of the OBS Ford F350 crew cab Cat swap glad you got air suspension installed I can't wait to see more videos soon

[@sjh9812]

This guy gets more done on his projects in 1 day than I do in a month. Very inspiring to get my ass in gear

[@1973GLH]

Bagged and ready

[@HogshooterHotrods]

Long time and a ton of work but what a cool build thanks for sharing your love for building!!