Debra Winger Plays Plead The Fifth! | Plead The Fifth | WWHL

[@emqcontent]

I wonder how she got the reputation as being difficult

[@perstephanies]

Because men like this do their job either poorly or unprofessionally, and when something goes wrong they throw women like her, who had to tediously correct the unprepared coworker, they throw them under the bus. Because they all do it, and they believe that this is their fault. She's difficult because she was righter than me. She will difficulty cause scene because you hadn't prepared for your job... Totally her fault. He's the assholea here. Treat Debra dang Winger with some respect. She's earned it.

[@akiame21]

@@perstephanies yeah but it wasn't that deep like that the questions were fun and light hearted and not at all insulting, I would think she would have watched the show to see how it was before agreeing to do it. She could have easily plead the fifth instead of berating the host.

[@HungryBear55]

@@perstephanies victim mentality much?

[@lauramarymcculloch9388]

I literally came to the comments to see if she has that reputation, she needs to lighten up!

[@perstephanies]

@@akiame21 Maybe he should have read her fucking book before saying, "you talk about this in your book" Which she hadn't. And he would have known, if HE HAD PREPARED for his job.

[@nehirakinn]

2:30 Amanda's face 😂😂

[@jessekadjo2818]

Nehir Akın so good!! 😭💀💀💀

[@akiame21]

Holy shit this was painful to watch

[@johnperrigo6474]

Agree. Andy Cohen is not watchable for me.

[@gregorycharles3431]

Her acting is wonderful and first class, her behavior here not so much.

[@thangvuong9196]

Even more difficult than expected.

[@justmyopinion3764]

What a ray of sunshine.

[@ladesigner8764]

She’s honest.

[@RC-wt7fr]

@@ladesigner8764 she is prickly af bud

[@stuco]

@@ladesigner8764 You can be honest and not a jerk. There's a balance.

[@wemarama1944]

Oh lord this was like walking through a maze sooo many dead ends and you can't wait for it to end lol

[@mehere337]

I couldn't wait for it to end so I could see the truth about how this went between Andy and Debra. I didn't think it was bad at all.

[@The_Bunny_Cakes]

Well she seems fun.

[@simplycomplicated929]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mike-fp5rc]

Yes in a bitchy sort of way.

[@ladesigner8764]

She is actually

[@haissem8]

Feminists

[@mernafekry7919]

OMG andy was like just fucking plead the fifthhhhhhhhh in the end! the poor thing couldn't take anymore of this

[@rykens]

Bette Davis was asked years ago which actress reminds her of herself in the business. Her answer, Debra Winger. Two tough ladies.

[@EAB82]

Bette had a humility about herself though.

[@RaymondHng]

Unfortunately, Winger's career was not as iconic as Davis'.

[@robertr798]

At least Bette had a sense of humor.

[@normgorm2066]

Love it! Andy got everything he deserved lls... He basically responds back to the housewives like this lmao

[@lorenwil]

I want a meme of Amanda Peet's horrified face at the end of this clip. 🤣

[@Gee-xb7rt]

obvious she is too dumb to understand what Ms Winger was saying.

[@venairabonilla3454]

I met her like 10 years ago in NYC. I didn't want an autograph or even a photo. Just to tell her that I love her movies and I was a huge fan. I was polite, and normal. She told me "I don't like to be bothered". Didn't even give me eye contact.

[@KelleyBroussardMackaig]

Jesus, really!!? I'm a fan of her movies too, especially Urban Cowboy and Terms of Endearment. That sucks that she treated you so poorly - I'm sure that it had to have been pretty disappointing. 😧

[@rslily]

F her!

[@jako3214]

Um...after seeing THIS interview (train wreck) that's prob. one of her GOOD days (aka u were lucky) lol!I mean to go from the streak of Urban Cowboy, OAAG, to TOE (1980-84 or so) save Legal Eagles in '86 then..basically go MIA means she got Kathryn Hiegeled.

[@blueberrycobbler]

Ouch

[@kimberlye8846]

venaira bonilla well after watching this interview I totally see why she was so rude to you. Sorry 😐 u suffered that disappointment.

[@freddiegrace3770]

Am I crazy, but I didn't see one thing wrong or uncomfortable with this interview! She was just being a bit vague with her answers and didn't want to speak negatively about anyone. Andy lost control of the interview and didn't like it! Winger is a tough cookie! She isn't going to sit there and let Andy fuck with her for his own personal entertainment!

[@brendamann1961]

It's the interviewers job to ask questions that would be interesting to viewers. One has the choice to accept or deny the interview.

[@beachstreet101]

Then why would she go on a show like this? She knew the format and the kinds of things that would be asked, which is on the salacious gossip side.

[@JJ-ls8ep]

She doesn’t like the machine

[@kennethrussll6059]

No wonder Richard Gere didn't get along with her during the filming of "An Officer And A Gentleman"

[@babyhilts]

2:30 my reaction this whole interview

[@HungryBear55]

she's delightful 😂

[@imalwaysright]

She does not play around lol. Andy finally put in his place 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nayrod4529]

The whole point is to have fun, not be scolded. You're watching the wrong show. Go watch fox!

[@J.Evans_Official]

Yes Andy has to roll with it sometimes he goes to far or is messy so he had it coming

[@bobbygee4832]

Andy is amazing. Your obsession with knocking him sounds like homophobia to me, then again your idol Cardi B IS a homophobe

[@bashhalow2729]

Boy lady, in trying to side step these questions, you REALLY answered these questions.

[@GenniferLee]

Loved her in Terms of Endearment

[@fadhilramadhani1847]

2:30 LMAO I have the same expression as Amanda Peet throughout this whole video.

[@7jacobm]

People saying Andy’s questions were dumb must be newcomers. Otherwise you should know what to expect. He asked Mariah Carey about Eminem and she played along. Even Oprah if she swam in the lady pond. So answer the question girl, or plead the fifth‼️

[@damien1781]

jake W things become easier and more trashy when you’re high on cocaine.

[@imalwaysright]

These were worse than those questions

[@Starkardur]

Debra Winger is not here for the bullshit.

[@chrismacdonald4570]

Noobs

[@rlast4698]

Do not defend andy lol

[@morningdove20]

Ps-. And NOW I Can understand WHY She and Shirley MacClaine Didn't get along in Terms of Endearment! Poor Shirley!!

[@tbam73]

I figured you wrote about it. I'm glad she read him. Damn do your job

[@christopherramirez3757]

The funny thing is that this show isn't a serious interview type show (clearly by the questions). so the point is to just laugh stuff off and roll with the punches. It's a shame that they both didn't get that memo and couldn't get over themselves to just have fun. Poor Andy. Debra was an absolute pain to watch and I hope to never see her again.

[@Mtbker456]

@@nashvillespiker no it isn’t lol

[@RaymondHng]

Winger should have had a couple of drinks before the interview.

[@award89]

Damn is he interviewing my mom?

[@vaskylark]

Watch An Officer and a Gentleman and Terms of Endearment. Debra Winger is a LEGEND of an actress.

[@hannemanart]

OMG I wish I was in that control room just to hear EVERYTHING! Wow

[@rx350guy]

I don’t think being derisive and contemptuous of the interviewer after a mistake they or staff made is the most flattering representation. I think she is marvellous and skilled as an actress but it tarnished my perception of her with the callousness of her attitude.

[@lisab1026]

Hard to watch.

[@RC-vv6nr]

… Winger tells you like it is right to your face gottaI love her for that, Andy, no?

[@3779445]

I love Debra Winger!!!!!!!! Keeping it 100.

[@aidanmorris2231]

im watching this and thinking wow shes so annoying and rude

[@elizabethsmith9624]

I will always love her for how terribly she treated Shirley Maclaine, a narcissist who abandoned her daughter.

[@MichaelDouglas-oh7fk]

Wow. Judge not ....something something something... Walk a mile in....yada yada yada... Let he who is without...la di da... Cast the first... You seem almost biblical. Try turning those devil eyes on yourself dear sweet one, for a change. Give them a break from all that "looking" at all the "terrible" people... "out there". You know..."them"..."the others"..."her"...."they"..."those people"...the "bad" ones. You deserve a rest. Aren't you tired of being judge and jury Judy? Your God will take over while you take a little break.😏

[@beachstreet101]

So you’re personal vendetta is against Shirley MacLaine because of things that went on in her personal life? Interesting.

[@johntutela5816]

Shirley McClain is not a narcissist. She’s a professional who has been in the business for six decades. Debra Winger on the other hand has a reputation of being impossible to work with from actors and directors.

[@elizabethsmith9624]

@@johntutela5816 Clearly you aren't aware of how Shirley treated her daughter like absolute sh*t

[@johntutela5816]

@@elizabethsmith9624 That’s her daughters side of the story. I don’t necessarily believe her daughter.

[@BrittKatSlat]

She was just being honest. My gosh. Does every woman have to be bubbly and laughy? NO. Go Debra! She wasn’t even mean or rude.

[@klienmurollo8395]

BrittKatSlat she WAS actually rude. If this many people thought she was rude...she was rude. And don’t hide behind the gender card to justify it.

[@MyJbryant]

@@klienmurollo8395 She was being honest. And if honesty is being mistaken for being rude, then, well, just shows how weak and sensitive this society has become.

[@donny1960]

@@MyJbryant You CAN be both honest and rude. They are not mutually exclusive. Honesty has to do with the veracity of what is being said. Rudeness is an adjective describing how that same something is being said. Not knowing the difference just shows how uneducated and witless society has become.

[@MyJbryant]

@@donny1960 So, you agree?

[@AdrianChristian]

BrittKatSlat I’m with you!

[@LeahLeah222]

Debra Winger shouldn't do talk shows

[@kmaguire7161]

More like Andy Cohen should stick to reality show personalities that work for him so have to play his stupid games.

[@DvLnDsGyZ]

@@kmaguire7161 I cant watch him on RHWOA. I cringe whenever he says uh k instead of okay...like wtf is that? He sounds condescending.

[@imalwaysright]

Yeh she should

[@laxus9451]

Andy should do some research

[@truckingwithtobee]

laxus 94 actually he did the research she was known for fighting with Shirley McClaine. That was well known even when they were filming that movie the terms of endearment. So maybe you should do your research before commenting.

[@cathysteele2663]

One of my very fave actors

[@keithMc35]

I bet Debby is fun at parties 🤣🤣

[@tsich3226]

😂

[@jburlesonactor1]

This was a shock to watch in a way. We all make mistakes, but my eyes were fully open!!!!👀

[@din6675]

She might be rude but she is very honest.

[@bhk110]

I don't think she was that rude until the last question. She's an accomplished woman who's been through alot of shit and she's not here for it.

[@ladesigner8764]

I think she is strong….of course as a woman, there is a double standard and she is the b word. Sexists, go away.

[@sydneyinez9314]

@@ladesigner8764 no as a woman, she was being rude if she were a man it would be rude too

[@drmariopepper4354]

Wow she just doesn’t have a huge chip on her shoulder or a huge ego. Damn, I thought Andy was rough sometimes lol

[@hezebelbeing]

I love Shirley MacLaine, EVEN more now hahaha she has a sense of humour. It's a GAME Winger oi vey *rollseyes*

[@EricAriel5]

Not the first person to be asked about onscreen kisses,JUST ANSWER THE DAMN Question without giving me this I’m an actor digging into my role crap,every actor digs into whatever role,it’s not a hard question,usually if it’s memorable it’s easy to answer.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

dayum if you are that triggered over a woman you don't know and never will how do you even cope at the grocery store? is the meat dept your safe space? snuggling with the hams make you feel at home?

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@Mac-Attack you poor little fragile peckerwood, all the brains inbred right out of you. better stay in your safe space.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@Mac-Attack why read the blathering nonsense of opioid addicted loser that hasn't changed his underwear all week? your basment must wreak from all that bating over shirtless pics of Hasan you do down there.

[@morningdove20]

Well after seeing some of these comments I don't feel so bad now when I say how (very much) disappointed I was to watch, and to listen to, Debra Winger. And the reason I watched Andy Cohen in the 1st place was Only because I knew she wld be On!! I Cldn't wait!! But Now I ask, "Why the hell did She even bother coming on," when for the Entire time, it was Obvious that She Cld NOT be Bothered, continued to answer in Disgust, and seemed that she Didn't even want to be there! This was sad. SHE was Sad. And now I just wish that I remembered her the way she Was and Didn't watch at all!! Debra, next time PLS do us all a favor and Stay home

[@Allhoney33]

All the comments here about how Debra needed to lighten up, yet nobody caught the low key shade she threw at Andy...."You look so sweet".......😂😂. Debra that was done with so much class and cleverness. Oh you devil you....I like you!

[@christinacampbell5952]

everyone else wanted to say we were thinking same thing about you, Debra

[@vapalaca]

This society rewards the fakes and the real once get endless shit. I like her she’s real and fearless.

[@abe_froman8360]

This just confirms the rumors about her being difficult.

[@30YADIG]

I was brought here by google news feed and what was awkward about this? Long silence, where?!

[@fififirestone3787]

I love her.

[@lex7799]

Love Deborah putting Andy in his place.

[@stfranny]

lex7799 it’s Debra

[@justtia1031]

Right

[@jennterry6977]

Me too!

[@sydneyinez9314]

She's not putting him in his place, she's just being rude

[@pswilson1000]

What a fun person! 😂 There’s a reason she doesn’t do many talk shows.

[@TerryUniGeezerPeterson]

Or movies...

[@johntutela5816]

Debra Winger has a very long history of being temperamental and difficult to work with. She’s just not a nice person.

[@blueberrycobbler]

John Tutela Because she doesn’t play games or put up with the usual bullshit that comes along with the entertainment business? It doesn’t mean she’s a bad person privately.

[@thegospel391]

The man didn't do nothing wrong. IT'S HER PERSONALITY THAT RUBS PEOPLE THE WRONG WAY. IM a realist but I'm tactful with it. ITS CALLED MATURITY!!!!!!!!

[@jades.32]

@@blueberrycobbler Then she shouldn’t have even bothered going on a talk show like this. It’s always been light hearted.

[@NDGOCHYLD]

Debra was not here for the shit and y'all mad about it...🤣🤣😂

[@beneyboo3800]

Luckey F. Starr someone from your background always has issues with a beautiful white gay man

[@darrylcc2003]

@@beneyboo3800 I hope you are attempting some kind of weird humor here ? if you are being serious why can't he have a different opinion without bringing up his "background" he cannot just like Debra Winger ?

[@mm369]

I’d be just like Amanda...making confused horrified faces and laughing in a “I can’t believe this is happening” way

[@A.J.8.8.8]

2:29 her face says it all "WAAHHHHT???? BUT SHE JUST SAID SHE DIDNT REMEMBERRRRRR!!!"

[@edreid7872]

Good for Debra for letting Andy know how silly some of his Plead the fifth questions are and aren't always appropriate for every guest...she'll probably end up on his list of the most awkward plead the fifth questioning..

[@imalwaysright]

He’s so crass

[@rubywarda6871]

What did Debra expect coming on Andy’s show????

[@edreid7872]

Reminds me of when he asked Loretta Lynn is she ever smoked pot with Willy Nelson, then followed up with how much she drinks...yeah, those questions can be fun with young Hollywood, but not with our legends...Andy...

[@EricAriel5]

If you don’t get it you shouldn’t go on a show like this,it’s not meant to be really serious,it’s meant to be silly and fun and if you’re personality doesn’t have either you’re on the wrong show.

[@MitchellWiggs]

We’re you expecting a 60 minutes interview? Lighten the fuck up

[@jekylvshyde6216]

I don’t think she was that bad. I just think she’s the type of person who really becomes whatever role she’s playing at the time, and she’s done so many roles to the point where she’s just kind of learned to leave each role behind so that she can fully commit to the next role. I just think she was being herself. I don’t think she was being mean or rude or anything. I just don’t feel like she meant any harm.

[@mehere337]

I totally agree.

[@manuelhandal6621]

SHE IS A WONDERFULL WOMAN

[@hollygrosshans3529]

Debra is one of the best actors ever and stands up for herself. You go girl.

[@folkgirrl]

Amanda Peet's face at the end is GOLD

[@7mandoblu]

Finally an episode where Andy Cohen is put in his place. I can't stand this guy, right on Debra!!! 👍🏼

[@amirrekarian5431]

7mandoblu yet you’re on his shows page. Hetero trash

[@sydneyinez9314]

I mean he's a host and he's doing his job, Debra could just refused to be on the show

[@lifeintheoc5163]

Wow! That was rough! This show is suppose to be lighthearted fun. I think she went a little too in her head with these responses. She clearly didnt do her research about the show and should've declined the invitation.

[@seanpowell1661]

I heard many years ago that, she was difficult to work with...even on the 1st season of Wonder Woman. Now, I'm starting to believe Lynda Carter. 😕

[@ttyyuuiiei]

1:08 therwer therwer therwer... therwer 😬😂

[@fiore3ky]

I have the same expression of Amanda at the end for the all video.

[@lisagee2384]

Why go on the show if you're going to act like that? The show is light-hearted and fun, and Ms. Winger is definitely not. She looked smug and insufferable.

[@jonhhh13]

A question like "rank kisses of your male peers from decades ago that were part of a performance" is a stupid and an outdated question and her answer was on point. You wanna be cheeky, you could ask something like "rate them from favorite to least favorite to work with" for instance.

[@hd-xc2lz]

I thought she was funny, memorable and a breath of fresh air. Yeah, the plead the fifth bit ended on an awkward note, but it at least was interesting and she made good points. In my opinion his shows have gotten a bit dull, too much the same, this one was a cold glass of water in the face, and was needed.

[@lexi219]

@@jonhhh13 Of course it's stupid. That's literally the point of Andy's show lmao. Anyone who goes on Andy's show expecting real, hard-hitting journalism is an idiot. It takes less than 2 minutes of research to see this is what his show is all about - silly gossip.

[@keith2896]

That was cringe worthy. I could tell Andy was getting flustered by her challenging him on every single question. Damn

[@adik4309]

Wow I’ve never seen Andy stutter or squirm before she must be intimidating

[@jonthomas8569]

I. Love. Her. If she just blindly went along with his usual tired shtick, this wouldn't have been nearly as entertaining. I think Debra Winger is a hoot.

[@sapna627]

claimed she didnt remember the kisses, then said they were good.

[@loveylove337]

Well she proved herself about being hard to work or deal with!!

[@alejjau]

Lmao wtf girl chill

[@davidbanner9344]

When she was in "INTREATMENT" I thought she was acting, now I realize she was just being her true self!

[@tibaby2010]

Ugh....Andy should’ve done his homework on Debra Winger. I mean, you don’t boldface lie to someone about reading her book, get caught in the lie, and then try and diffuse the awkwardness by further lying and complimenting the person on the book that you clearly haven’t read. It’s ridiculous. Kathy Griffin was right: the only one who’d give Andy Cohen his own a talk show is Andy Cohen. He’s gotten by with being elementary and coming off as “cutting edge” because one could describe him as irreverent (a niche made popular by Chelsea Handler when it was actually amusing), but really, he’s just irreverent because don’t do his job properly.

[@klienmurollo8395]

tibaby2010 yet you’re watching him and obsessed with him. Typical of black woman to bash a gay man. After all, you all either gossip about gay men, belittle gay men, or seem downright hostile. Now if he was Steve Harvey (who can’t even get a pageant result right) you’d be fawning over him.

[@beneyboo3800]

tibaby2010 He’s relevant enough for a ghetto hater like you to be stalking him, and his show’s page. Andy is successful and beloved. We both know why you take issue with that.

[@beneyboo3800]

Klien Murollo Exactly what I was thinking. Thank you for saying it.

[@beneyboo3800]

tibaby2010 wow, for someone who doesn’t like Andy you sure are familiar with everything he does. And funny you’d defend two homophobes (Kathy Griffin who uses gay men and Chelsea Handler who mocks us)

[@bobbygee4832]

tibaby2010 You are a troll. Andy is very successful and Kathy and Chelsea are both expired and overrated with careers that dwindled. Why are you on Andy’s page if you dislike him?

[@brookeww2919]

I knew it'd be difficult to watch...but wow.

[@meganpeters6597]

She was rude as hell! Entire show

[@tindarocappadona6219]

Bravissima attrice. Sarebbe stata perfetta come protagonista nel film "pensieri pericolosi".

[@themagickalmermaid]

I think Sally From 'When Harry Met Sally' was inspired by Debra!

[@lilchicklets]

I believe she was actually offered that roll.

[@jimjimmyjames59]

Jesus, Debra - it's a game.

[@seahawkgal4]

She is such a stick in the mud. If you’re gonna go on his show you should be willing to have fun and answer his questions. I mean come on it’s not like she’s on Inside the Actors studio...save all that boujee, uppity stuff for that.

[@kimt131313]

Why all the Hate for Debra? She is being upfront & answering Andy's shady questions...

[@pearlbubbles6885]

Andy's questions are cringey

[@Mike-fp5rc]

He hates women, and it was never more obvious watching this shit show.

[@Gee-xb7rt]

@@Mike-fp5rc to be fair he is a sociopath, he doesn't have respect for anyone.

[@Mike-fp5rc]

@R.B. I'm not an avid watcher; it depends on the guest.

[@mikefederighi9081]

Funny how Andy can tell Debra Winger you wrote a great book while it is clear he never read it. Soooo tired of Hollywood BS.

[@xxcharmed1xx]

She is so different than the character “sissy”

[@jbt6007]

Debra being Debra and I love her

[@alainsoir]

Debra Winger scares the shit out of me

[@millicentlopez3592]

im glad Andy got his azz handed to him after the way way he handled himself on Jenny Mccarthys show

[@gsmscooter22]

She's worked with some difficult people especially MacLaine and her dislike of Gere is well known. I find her to be interesting, I've always liked her since Urban Cowboy, Black Widow, and what I saw of The Ranch was good

[@MegaWicked89]

Debra Winger is giving huge Scorpio vibes. You can love her or hate her.

[@PatrickLHawkins]

I see nothing wrong with they way she responded.

[@ladesigner8764]

If a man did it, it wouldn’t be questioned. The sexists always have an issue with a strong woman. Fools.

[@sydneyinez9314]

Then you're a rude person like Winger and you need to re-evaluate yourself

[@peterdurkin1499]

Andy knows she is trying to give him a hard time

[@chelsean7261]

She has to be one of the most unlikable people in Hollywood. Answer the freaking question

[@Starkardur]

She's not obliged to do anything. She was right.

[@sydneyinez9314]

@@nashvillespiker then why go on the show?

[@clarissadickinson7044]

I didn't think Debra was out of line. You ask stupid questions, you're going to get a blunt response and Debra doesn't suffer fools' gladly. I mean, how are you going to ask Debra about her feud with Shirley MaClaine that she wrote about, which she didn't as that came from Shirley's book, and then try to save face by saying you read the book. First, you didn't because you just quoted stuff that wasn't in Debra's book and second, like what do you expect Debra to say when asked about the men she's kissed? She's not that kind of "movie star". To be honest, I liked her tough approach. I get the sense that she expects you to earn her respect and I kind of love that.

[@laxus9451]

He read the wrong book. All the rumours were from shirleys book. Shows That he had time to read shirleys book but not debras

[@lehlah]

I thought her comments "let's get something straight here" and "its hard out here for a chimp" were pretty rude and shadey. Just the way she said it...hmmm...

[@PatrickLHawkins]

I thought they were hysterical

[@chrisalberts9414]

Does she not know she's on a gossip show 😂😂😂😂

[@tonymolatto1904]

Lost. He asked her a question then she flipped it on him. She seemed kind of like he went to her house & bombarded her with questions.

[@love_agapi_m3976]

Wow she is so sweet I don’t understand her bad reputation

[@libertinerising]

Lighten up Deb 💋💋💋💋 she can’t even act like she was a great actress 🌈🌈🌈

[@sassyt1545]

Nasty piece of work then and now.

[@EasyKiwi111]

I get that his questions are ridiculous but that’s what this show is supposed to be, ridiculous, she shouldn’t have come on this show if she wasn’t gonna play along. But she does have a point, as an interviewer Andy should have his facts straight

[@jm.3617]

Lmao I love her

[@lordfarquaad8267]

Debra Winger is a legend and these questions are nosy AF. She don’t gotta answer shit.

[@jordangibbs1815]

omg she was a nightmare.

[@crazeecurious7161]

After watching her as a pre teen, so iconic roles, such the sweet girl never believed any rumors about her being “difficult” as I am aging have been really wanting to reconnect with the best years ever, the 80s and went on a Debra Winger kick. Pulled up interviews such as this, many others I have watched & I must say so disappointed.. she seems just like any other arrogant celebrity. For example when a caller calls in to ask about her role I. Urban Cowboy she roles her eyes, points to her wrist as if time is ticking hurry up fan no time for ur petty questions. Every interview I have looked up with her is the same demeanor. So disappointed she truly is just like the rest