DEBUNKING the 10 Biggest Myths in The Walking Dead

[@Koroto]

🙌THE DEBUNK HAS BEEN DEBUNKED! It happened in less than an hour lmao. CLARIFICATION about Jesus' (Tom Payne) departure! Turns out every media site ran with the quotes that Tom Payne wasn't happy with how his character was adapted and no one talked about his other comments. He didn't actually *explicitly ask* to be written out, but just indicated that he'd be totally happy with leaving (hence the surprise death). He tweeted this on a random Thursday 2 years ago, so I just missed it. Rest of the story remains exactly the same - he never got stuff to do and thought that it was a letdown compared to the books for him. His tweet for reference: x.com/justanactor/status/1507044878105993249 Thanks to @PixieLovesItAll for the clarification!

[@CosRozco]

Myth 11: It was all a dream by Eren under the tree. Walkers are titans.

[@dannyl434]

I hate how accurate that last statement is though, apart from transmission rules I suppose😂

[@lukaslambs5780]

If Invincible gets fumbled the way TWD did that just might be my Joker moment

[@drfifteenmd7561]

That’s what I fear. When the original author is competent and good at writing, never forsake them bro

[@funnyfunnyvalentine7991]

Robert Kirkman IS a sell-out though, Clementine books 1-3 is proof of that

[@AdamYGO6893]

They did Chandler so dirty. I was already teetering about leaving the show ever since the Glenn fake-out and followed by his actual death being a cliffhanger for the next season. Carl dying was the final straw for me.

[@BoogSReviews]

The show was so good with Carl gone though. I didn’t like Carl in the comics or show, so that change made me happy. Let’s be honest, show Carl did absolutely nothing noteworthy and added nothing to the show.

[@Sirtowerdive]

@@BoogSReviews Carl was the point of the show….and comic everything done was for them they don’t have to be likable they are kids the show wasn’t about survival it’s the future. Without Carl there is no future.

[@mkwsoxfan]

They wrote out Carl for being "too old" but then immediately did a time skip half a season later that would have aged him perfectly. Also they generically wrote out Maggie (3x), Rick, and Michonne but when it came to Carl they HAD to kill him off. 4 characters one of which wanted to continue with the show and thats the one they chose to kill 😅

[@Godloveszaza]

The show not even worth rewatching purely because of that

[@CorsonDrax]

Judith dies in the comic though. ​@@Sirtowerdive

[@snoopiness]

I'd been under the impression for many years now that sophia was written out because the young actress was so scared of the walkers. It was one of the show only twists that I thought worked, especially to develop carol into her badass character down the line. I think it would have been a waste of an amazing actress to kill her off like she died in the comics.

[@Fnukysknuk]

The way I never even noticed Maggie was written off the show until she came back 😂

[@DanielMartActor]

For Smart Walkers, I would argue that it last until Season 3. They weren't as prominent in Season 2 & 3, but I think after Season 3 they stopped. Examples of Variant Walkers in Season 2 & 3 include Some of the Highway Walkers, The Church Walkers, Some of the High School Walkers, The Walker that bit Hershel, & Zombie Shane and Randall.

[@jebus89]

I love Milton's part in s3 where he's clutching to this idea that walkers keep memories (probably because he's seen things like you've mentioned) but Andrea and the show just completely destroys that theory. It's a nice soft retcon...until s11 ofc when AMC decided to bring mutant walkers in until they just got rid of them again in the spin-offs

[@arias3295]

FINALLY! A Walking Dead video!!! WHERE IS THE RETROSPECTIVE?!??!??!

[@latviandragon2718]

tbh a fresh walker is a pretty cool concept and wish it was implemented in the show

[@ShadowEliteHD]

Andrew Linclon just wanted out. He or AMC used the excuse he wanted to spend more time with his family because nobody could say that is a bad or really argue against it because it would make you look like a terribe person. Its the perfect reason.

[@clearspira]

Carl was so far removed from his awesome badass comic book counterpart that I just did not care about him by the end. The last straw for me for his character was when he lost his eye and then they TIME SKIPPED immediately afterwards. It meant absolutely nothing. It changed absolutely nothing. Life just went on as if he still had two eyes. What a waste. I am undecided if this equals the betrayal of Andrea's character or not, but it's close.

[@boredguy6970]

Even though I’m aware that S4 to 8 taking place in the same year was deduced using good reasonings and is basically canon at this point, it’s still mind boggling ludicrous. Even when binging the series on Netflix, you won’t buy it for a second unless you read the wiki.

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

The Walking Dead Movie Trilogy is the Walking Dead equivalent of Dan Akroyd saying, "Ghostbusters 3 will start shooting this spring."

[@ichigoblackTWD]

PPP is probably an early CRM logo. It makes sense but it is only a theory.

[@TheLandBeyond_Productions]

A ga-

[@solomonrivers5639]

The best part of the later seasons was watching McBride seethe at Gimple behind a smile on TTD

[@gordonschnick12]

Invincible proved people don't mind a near perfect 99% adaptation of the source material, you don't need to make all these drastic changes. The only changes Invincible made are so minuit it's basically inconsequential. I imagine the same will happen if we ever get an animated Walking Dead. Like maybe the term walker is used more. (It's barely in the comics)

[@ShiiiiIdk]

Editing is improving. Love to see it

[@Maldr.]

I have no idea what it is about The Walking Dead TV version that spurs so much disingenuous discussion both online and irl. It's sometimes bizarre because it's wholly unlike how I see any other show treated. so I really appreciate the video

[@Deltabolster]

i still say that with them changing so much about the original comic they really should have also just had the show span a longer timeframe than 2 years and have the story be long enough for carl to be like 16 or something around his death, like just add 1 full year of the prison being a safe place maybe, and then have the terminus and post terminus bits take like 6 or so months and then his age is much close to what we see, its not like they dont treat him as a young adult/teenager in the show anyway

[@au-ingaming9354]

Lets go love your twd vids!

[@Vodkasharky]

I’m here early on upload! Love your work man, happy belated new year 🎉

[@cearathibodeau1852]

Thank you for posting an hour long video during the driest month of the year for youtube ❤🎉 janurary sucks but you are the best!!!

[@gunzandgodz]

You forgot the myth of Daryl liking sausage in his pasta, if you know what I’m saying.

[@TetsuoIVIX]

A OP version of this would be WILD.

[@phantom5757]

Finally another Korotos walking dead video. I don’t know why but I just enjoy hearing you talk about the series even if the current state of the series is a clusterfuck. I hope we can get your thoughts on the end of the comics soon because that’s what I really want to hear when it comes to the retrospective now

[@SomethingAbstract]

If the comic had been adapted in an animated format it would have been 100000000x better then the live action

[@PredicateCapeThe21St]

Love these kinds of vids also, sure seems im early damn

[@Koroto]

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[@Gtfo_Kenny]

2:30 I got a whole as 16 minute rant on my channel for this one

[@PixieLovesItAll]

The truth behind Jesus wanting to leave actually isn't true, he didn't request to be written off. To quote his clarification on this topic from his twitter back when someone stated he requested to be killed off, "I actually didn't. I said I'd be fine if they did." It was a similar thing to Chandler where the showrunners took the easy way out and the media caught hold of the misinterpretation of intention, and it's been difficult to set the record straight. Mostly because Tom *was* outwardly frustrated and voiced his displeasure in how the character was treated over the Saviors War, but it was because he loves Jesus as a character, and has said he'd happily come back if requested for Tales. (I have the full link if you'd like it, but it's quite easy to find on Tom's "justanactor" account.)

[@Koroto]

From what I understood, he said he'd be fine with coming back if he had something to do, but that he wanted to get out of the contract for the main show (or rather that he strongly indicated he wanted to leave). If you have a link with further clarification from him directly or smth, please gimme :)

[@PixieLovesItAll]

​@@Koroto Absolutely agree, it's about intention, and I'm sure that it was completely justifiable in the showrunners' minds to end the contract. Whereas it could easily be interpreted that Tom was clearly showing camaraderie with fellow comic readers who also loved Jesus as much as he did and who were also disappointed that he wasn't given anything to do bc all of his comic content was handed off to Daryl or Rick. He's also said that he probably shouldn't've gotten so invested in the comics because it essentially gave him adaptation dysmorphia and was having a hard time reconciling that as the hype around the show was so great, which definitely made me understand his POV better. "Maybe I shouldn't have read the comic books, because then I wouldn't have been as disappointed as I have been at times.” (Walker Stalker NJ Dec. 2018) Here's the status # for the tweet I referenced in the original comment ( 1507044878105993249 ).

[@Koroto]

Ye, comic fans of Jesus were struggling BIG TIME. He was SO DAMN COOL in the book, AMC nerfed him so hard. 😭😭 Thanks a bunch pointing this out though (and with a source too 🙌), will pin a comment that it's was less so request, more so indifference. 👍

[@BoogSReviews]

I actually talked to Tom Payne in person at a convention I met him at a couple years ago and he told me he asked to be written off because Jesus in the show got no cool fight sequences like in the comic. He trained and did a bunch of stuff and was underutilized. He said he finally got some cool fight scenes like he wanted only in his final episode. He jokingly told me “the show didn’t last long after I left, so jokes on them” lol

[@josephparker9606]

I would not say the comic is "consistently good", even the comics got stale shortly after the show started to. Everything after the Whisperers was VERY mid. I'd even go as far as to say the show did a much better job with their final season than the comics did with their final arc. TV Commonwealth was so much more entertaining. Comics did the Saviors way better (show's worst arc) Whisperers were pretty equal, perfect adaptation imo. But the show absolutely wins the Commonwealth storyline. Hornsby's addition alone made it infinitely more interesting.

[@Koroto]

Hard disagree. TV whisperers are a joke compared to the book (goofy timeskip, goofy satellite(???), goofy cave, goofy Hilltop battle with GoT season 8 logic, goofy fake out deaths etc). Talked plenty about that in the retrospectives, so won't rehash all of that. TV Commonwealth had excellent ideas (the Daryl Commonwealth soldier stuff was cool, Mercer was awesome and Lance most of all), but they were just that - ideas. Most of it was a mismanaged hodge-podge of stories, many of which led nowhere and did nothing except add bloat to the already messy messy season. Granted it seemed to have been out of their control due to Covid & the cancellation, but that does not make it any better (and that's not even talking about the reapers which were just a waste of time) The comic's Commonwealth was insanely rushed, but did everything it needed to and had an ending that, while expected by just about everyone, still felt like a good bookend to the story.

[@josephparker9606]

The only thing you can give the Comic ending is just the fact it actually ends. Yea, I get it. There's no more story left and 0 spin-offs. But people seem to be valuing that a lot more than it just being an entertaining experience. I think 'Rest in Peace' is undeniably more enjoyable, just solely entertainment wise​. As for the comics Commonwealth Arc, it didn't have anything beyond very surface level stuff. Atleast the show added the labor camp with Outpost 22. And all of Lance's maniacal antics behind the scenes. Even Sebastian in the show was a lot more of a fleshed-out character, even without the infamous Rick kill. I really didn't think Kirkman was good at a lot of the stuff that followed The Whisperers. Princess for example was unbearably cringey in comparison to her TV counterpart. Idk what it is, I just can't get into the Commonwealth storyline in the source material. I get the point of it, just being about politics since society has restarted at that point, but I think the show tackled it in a far more interesting way.

[@BoogSReviews]

@@josephparker9606big agree. After the whisperer war, kirkman lost steam and, at that point, reading the comic felt like a chore because of how absolutely boring the commonwealth arc was. It was handled a million times better in the show and was actually pretty riveting from start to finish. Hornsby and Sebastian were so much better in the show. That’s why I love the final season so much. It did that arc better than the comics.

[@Logan912]

@@KorotoOne thing I’ll say the show did better with The Whisperers is giving Beta some more backstory, and his death isn’t random and underwhelming like the comics. However, the show still had to ruin it by giving the kill to Daryl because OF COURSE Daryl would get the kill even though it would’ve made more sense giving the kill to Negan who was standing right there.

[@CorsonDrax]

​@BoogSReviews that's actually what I used to hear from a lot of the comic fans whilst the books were still releasing... I don't know where this idea came from that the Comic is perfect from start-to-finish because that's unbelievably bs.

[@beaver6d9]

Hi! Small distinction, but Darabont and AMC settled before it went to trial, so technically it's not correct to say he 'won' the case, but certainly fair to say he came on top. As far as the residuals go, you can see that it says for "future streaming exhibition of TWD and fear" and that it "extinguishes Plaintiffs' rights", so whether you wanna call them residuals or not (streaming doesn't really do residuals, at least not like normal TV), but really the main point is that Darabont and the other Plaintiffs got a fat pay day in exchange for giving up their rights completely.

[@jerrystakes]

Great video man. Love your content!

[@dartharid3778]

I once had a girl come to me and say that between seasons 1 and 3 that 2 years have passed. Then I literally brought up loris pregnancy and she still thought it was 2 years. (She’s like 16-17 btw)🤦🏼

[@heavy5013]

Didn't care about Sophie's death till I actually read the comic and saw how she was there. Then it made me mad.

[@Arkanyte]

Where's the Retrospective, Korotos?

[@brianachim2670]

They fired Chandler so Lennie could go to Fear 😂

[@matthewevans9405]

The worst thing that ever happened to the walking dead was it being put on by AMC. Not sure how they managed to get it so bad after shows like Breaking Bad and Mad Men did so well

[@jordanvance1657]

Ok im going to be very honest frank darabont made season 1 spectacular but his idea to go off tangent for season 2 and probably beyond i just dont like. Im here to see rick and his group in this world. The fall of atlanta would make a good spinoff one episode special idea, but as for making the series sort of an anthology no i think that would be terrible.

[@BoogSReviews]

I agree. His ideas were terrible. He’s also the reason Andrea was written so bad from the get go. Aside from the first season, he wasn’t that good for the show.

[@Gtfo_Kenny]

22:22 you can still tell Daryl and Merle's stories without Daryl taking over the way he did in the main show, personally i think daryl should die just after merle if they were to do his character again. Have daryl die fighting the governor during "Liar". His story with merle is still really good, and if they HAD to bring him back, then they could make it work without it being too overbearing like the live action.

[@BloodBarron115]

24:35 its a joke that turned into an actual small comic arc after he finished the walking dead. Rick and Negan fighting with lightsabers is canon to me!

[@davidkozin1106]

Korotos i just want you to finish the retrospective please. I need closure!

[@swagishere1843]

if they ever adapt the comic they should have an episode that has clementine and lee or something I don't know how they would do it maybe like follow Glen before he meets the Atlanta group or something

[@greatrieck]

“There is no aliens in the walking dead”- The Walking Dead The Alien is right there. (Yes this is a joke about the Jeffrey Grines comic.)

[@Pooples123]

When are we getting another The Walking Dead Retrospective? 😭😭😭

[@s3xylegend26]

Any plans on ever finishing the comic comparison

[@adi_baa]

Koroto i need to know, will the comic book retrospective ever finish? It has been about a year since the last episode and its only a few away from completion. I know you are kinda jaded with the whole TWD universe after TOWL (as am I) but I am still really looking forward to those videos. Do you still think they might happen? Cheers.

[@RyanCoomer]

at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffet.

[@ElJefe1337]

Excuse me 😂

[@RyanCoomer]

@@ElJefe1337 you are excused! but before you go, HAVE A CORNDOG

[@Amarthir]

Throw one at me pls

[@RyanCoomer]

@@Amarthir YASSSSSSS

[@SenseiJeager]

Dont think retcons(idk how to spell it) are bad neither that changing the original story and just building up on it is something bad. Just like Marvel MCU is inspired but not a totally 1 to 1 Storyline which is actually something good, seeing how 1 piece of art can lead to new version/parallel universes of something

[@timmatje7376]

another day, another question about when you'll finish up you're twd retrospective.

[@angelmolinero1352]

Now this is a cause for celebration

[@jotun.616]

Falling skies was good. They had that shitty season, 3 i think?, but they recovered ok. I liked that they had good aliens team up with earth.

[@Ginko_Sakata]

Falling Skies Mention W🔥

[@robinrizzo7396]

8:30 sadly this wasn’t true, in Daryl Dixon they never explored the source of the virus or anything like that and the advanced walkers plot went into a dead end, classic AMC🙄

[@PredicateCapeThe21St]

The same thing happened to the Witcher right, "we think we can do better" and it caused Henry Cavill to leave?

[@ShadowyDolphine]

Yes! New video!!,

[@a_ninja2376]

6:02 can you post this meme to the community page or twitter because I need it it’s perfect

[@LessTh3nThree]

Are you gonna finish the retrospective mannn?

[@Adog00]

Unfortunately, I believed that Chandler Riggs wanted to leave for college, lol. Glad I found out it wasn’t true a while ago but damn

[@DarkArkham2]

After 🤠 died, I stopped watching. I only finished the show in late 2022 because I didn't wanna watch the show post-Carl. It made 0 sense to me and it made me so sad. Glenn was expected because of the comics; Abraham should have been dead by that point (Denise got his death), but Carl? No, I couldn't do it. I needed time.

[@scottpreik8755]

i feel like im one of them people that never really liked morgan, he was cool at the very start but when he came back in to the show he just become soo damn annoying

[@leeterryjr]

To make Rick able to reload & hold the weapon, they could have made a fake hand that has the gun built into it (so the fake hand holds/is the gun and the real hand stabilizes/reloads). That would have been possible with the technology they had on hand in the story (I could not resist the pun) and what they did just seems like lazy/stupid writing imo.

[@MyNameIsBhex]

Commentary comment thread time

[@MyNameIsBhex]

I love the intro. That was cool. Amazing hook

[@MyNameIsBhex]

"They won't but youll know" yeah

[@adasdemo]

Lithuania>Latvia

[@Koroto]

Objectively wrong. We just took the Golden Globe. Skill issue 🗿 jk, love my braliukas

[@adasdemo]

@@Koroto love you too 😘

[@sociopathicgamer470]

Not to defend firing Chandler, But they do seem to be going for making Judith the lead.

[@karmitdafruge1]

I always preferred darabonts take personally

[@Koroto]

Yeah, S1 was goated, but it's really hard to say how S2 would've looked like if the pseudo-anthology approach became a thing imo. I can see it diverging from the books in a lot of bad ways too, but I doubt we'll ever know the full story.

[@karmitdafruge1]

@Koroto yea I get where people are coming from when they say it would've changed too much from the books but the show as we know it already changed so much anyways and in a lot of bad ways so I think maybe his interpretation could've been interesting. Like you said season 1 is one of the best seasons.

[@jotun.616]

I mean, riggs is an awful actor lol that little girl who plays judith was ten times better.

[@Koroto]

95% of "bad acting" in shows of this scale happens because of bad direction or a bad script, not the actor's ability. If you watch some scenes of The Ones Who Live, you'd think that Andrew and Danai also got picked off the street and put into lead roles.

[@goldengirl300-j2r]

Sneaking in Andrew and especially Danai when chandler was a terrible actor 💀​@@Koroto

[@BonesyTucson]

Why was Morgan ever a fan favourite? Past the first few seasons.. he half ruined it. Great actor.. overused character.

[@Ektyrion]

fastest click of my life. time to inject the yapping right into my veins

[@SaintzCS]

I’m first love me as if I was your wife

[@Koroto]

I won't because you weren't first 🗿🗿🗿

[@RayRayCrazy]

Yop

[@QuimbyFletcher69]

Tbh y’all gotta stop meatriding carl like yes I get that his death was bs but y’all gotta let it go it’s been like eight years bro like get it but come on 🤦‍♂️

[@BoogSReviews]

Facts. It’s beyond irritating how much it still gets brought up. People need to just move on. The comics will never be the same and that’s fine. I mean, TWD was never comic accurate even from the first and second seasons. It was clear they were doing their own take on it.

[@DrtyBon]

I was here first 😂

[@MediocrMrFox]

I really hate the refusal to cut off Rick's hand because "it would have been too difficult to show Rick doing things" excuse from AMC and Kirkman Because...like...yeah? It would be difficult if you were WITHOUT A FUCKING HAND LIKE SOME PEOPLE ARE??? AND IT CAN BE DIFFICULT???