Debunking Tiktok's Worst Swiftie

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[@bigmclargehuge1170]

how about i unsub from you instead lol. what an incredibly tone deaf sponsorship

[@Ethan-qs7fo]

​@@bigmclargehuge1170what are you talking about

[@user-hr6lo8yt6x]

​@@Ethan-qs7fo I think they're talking about how carbon offsetting is a scam

[@lyrablack8621]

What's the outro song

[@user-hr6lo8yt6x]

@@lyrablack8621 I don't totally disagree, and I know that Wren doesn't only do carbon offset credits, but I was mostly just explaining why that commenter might have thought the sponsorship was tone deaf

[@laurencarlson1235]

To the swiftie, “being young, gay and mean is not a personality trait” 😭

[@roramdin]

but that's literally my entire personality

[@laurencarlson1235]

@@roramdin omg the queen herself!! you are also brilliant, funny and passionate. I don’t think the swiftie would be even able to comprehend your lyrical analysis and thought process 💀

[@user-be3iu9vz4s]

all her fans have that personality traits, I think it's mandatory

[@alexdh2001]

@@roramdin the difference is you're smart and funny

[@baxterjaye3984]

​@@roramdin don't worry ur one of the good ones

[@pup64hcp]

watching people defend millionaires will never not be hilarious

[@starsINSPACE]

But Taylor grew up on a farm /s

[@smelldisfidelis5499]

@@starsINSPACE is the “s” serious or satire

[@user-be3iu9vz4s]

​@@starsINSPACE LMAOOO his dad is a fucking banker and it was not a small farm, his dad had the resources to bought part of big machine records, given her the opportunity to put out her first album. I love taylor and of course I think she is a talented woman, but let's not pretend she struggled a lot

[@the_pipster]

​@@smelldisfidelis5499 its satire, the tone tane for serious is /srs :)

[@user-be3iu9vz4s]

*her dad

[@ruminationstation4200]

Meanwhile I'm just sitting here wondering why we're still using the grammys as a metric of anything other than industry corruption.

[@c0wgirlcoding]

fr

[@mewmew6158]

Exactly, those awards shouldn't mean anything to marginalized groups

[@himbokoopa]

@@mewmew6158 100% true! fun fact, at first, when hip hop was being recognized by the grammy’s, a lot of rappers in marginalized groups straight up boycotted it. imagine being such a shitty organization that people don’t even want to be given the chance to win an award lmao

[@MinkytheMinkY]

​​@@himbokoopa the rap category did not air the first year or so. Sinead O'Connor shaved her head and had the public enemy logo in protest, if i recall correctly.

[@ndf3]

The music industry's love affair with itself

[@funkyxii8496]

watching a new ro ramdin video is always fun because you never know if you're gonna get one of the most beautiful and gutwrenching pieces of art you've seen in months or her just absolutely fucking dunking on some people. Wouldn't have it any other way tbh

[@strangedoingsinthenight]

Ro Ramdin Russian Roulette

[@k3y_sm4sh]

In my experience it's usually both! And I wouldn't have it another way, either

[@roramdin]

LMAOOO

[@jbone877]

This is unbelievably accurate

[@godisdead7802]

They are both my fav so it's fun to get thrown into the vid and find out ✨

[@luckcoplin7421]

It is so damn bold to say that Taylor swift won the Grammy because she worked hard on it. On its own, it’s like, okay, no shit she worked hard on it, but when you say that, you inherently imply that no other artist is actually trying to win awards… Like, damn, I can’t believe not a single other artist has ever worked hard on music It’s like. Being self centered. On Taylor Swift.

[@marsfeathers]

That's a great way to put it!

[@blake9746]

(Someone) else-centered. It's a bit sad.

[@Miss_Darko]

swiftcentric

[@chickenfoot2423]

i feel like the word we’re all looking for is simply being a delusional stan. they’re inescapable on the internet and make up a weirdly large percentage of swifties

[@benburke3015]

@@chickenfoot2423 "Simply being a delusional stan". That's five words. /j lol.

[@nerdoftheatre]

5:55 "She won because she worked hard." I mean, most of them work hard on their craft?

[@anone.mousse674]

I imagine if you pressed that point, Kev there would contend that Rap doesn't take effort because it's "just speaking." Source: I have heard this argument from several pop stans.

[@littlelordfuckleroy3822]

also hilarious to compare Kendrick, someone who worked his way out of literal poverty to Swift who grew up in a mansion and whose dad bought a record company in order to produce her first album 🙄

[@ilovekendallroy]

@@littlelordfuckleroy3822 as soon as i saw ur name i knew ur take would be good and i was right, i love succ fans

[@audreyfeist9622]

As a huge swiftie, I wholeheartedly agree with you. 1989 is a fun pop record, but it is perhaps her weakest in terms of lyrics and messgae. TPAB is a masterwork. It's like comparing apples and oranges these two albums are nowhere near each other. This isn't to say that they aren't both good, they are just different types of good. Where 1989 is like cotton candy (fun, airy, and sweet) TPAB is like rich tiramisu (layered, complex, and steeped in richness).

[@Yuki39Miku]

As a fan of cotton candy and tiramisu, I'm loving the comparisons here! :>

[@karmaplant1801]

Exactly!!! I also think 1989 is such a weird hill to die on when it comes to Taylor Swift's music. Because out of all of her work, I would say it is just not the best. It has some fun songs on it, but even Red has so much more complexity in lyrics and audio imho. To try to pit 1989 against TPAB is more like trying to compare a bad flavor of cotton candy against tiramisu. Like it is still sweet, and some people probably love it, but typically no one is going to choose that over tiramisu.

[@TheAbigailDee]

Swifties who are simultaneously obsessed with Kendrick Lamar, rise up!

[@mocapcow2933]

@@TheAbigailDee you acting like that’s a small group, the only people that don’t like Kendrick are hip hop nerds that hate hip hop nerds so much, they can’t fathom Kendrick being good.

[@TheAbigailDee]

@@mocapcow2933 I didn't think that implies the group was small. I would argue it's a very large group...Kendrick collaborated with Taylor on the Bad Blood remix so people who weren't into hip-hop before definitely would have at least found him through that crossover.

[@sideburn_z]

If i remember correctly Taylor is a Kendrick fan... so for this swiftie to say this shit about Kendrick or even compare them is kind of bananas

[@sideburn_z]

***just remembered they fucking collabed on a bad blood remix my god 😭 this swiftie shitting on a dude that COLLABED WITH HER ....

[@Miguel-xd8dd]

@@sideburn_z LITERALLYYY. Fuck he talking about 💀

[@Alek.17]

@@sideburn_zAND that version is far superior too. In my opinion anyway 😂

[@eliasmg9144]

​@@sideburn_z swiftie: maybe Kendrick should take notes Me: mf he literally appears in one of her songs wtf

[@VivekPatel-ze6jy]

​@@Alek.17 as a swiftie I have to agree

[@pheresata]

Its always swifties that ended up being secretly racist and its pissing me off because its a pattern

[@squidthing]

She was literally praised by Breitbart and used as a meme by white supremacists as the ideal woman during her silent on social/political issues for $$$ era. Plus the racists who glommed onto her after the swastika shirt guy controversy. Unfortunately her silence and attempts at "neutrality" atttacted the absolute worst types of people.

[@muppetbabygonzo]

i mean… is it ever really that secret? a not insignificant chunk of her fanbase lauded her as an aryan princess for years, and the general response from swifties was to dogpile anyone who asked why she never told them off. she’s obsessive about her reputation and image and she’s painfully fixated on her worst critics to the point of inserting twitter haters in a song about homophobia, so it’s fair to assume she would notice.

[@guilhermeshiba3135]

im pretty sure that after the kanye controversy up until the second kanye controversy there was a whole section of her fanbase that worshipped her as queen of white america, that's the reason behind the creepy tweets asking her to have children and behind 4-channers thinking taylor was actually secretly a 4-chan user in the 2010s

[@thecincinnatisaboteur7574]

@@guilhermeshiba3135 Stephen moolly (he I think was banned from yt or left, he’s one of the OG alt right nut cases, like he’s a gross stupid POS and very overtly radical and anti empiricism) tweeted something like “Taylor swift you’re almost halfway out of eggs [reffering to ovulation and fertility] you should think about having kids soon, I think you’d be a lovely fun mom :)” likr I swear on my life if you look it up that’s like the exact thing besides the wording because I obviously don’t have it memorized. At the time those trump, neo nazi, right wing types were you could say “winning the culture war” and were very prominent and the media and influencers who were producing the content that fed them their ideology were superstars and he was one of them. He kinda faded into the ether but this was def a thing and weirdos would obsess about her reproducing and spreading her genes. The fact that she didn’t address it and the average white Girl artist who they tried to idolize would at bare minimum have the decency to denounce that for optics, and many would be actually grossed out and pissed off. Idk her life but it’s sussy. She turns everything into a song which is her thing and creative choice but but I don’t see her addressing that in a song. And that’s a way cooler concept then boring behind the seems petty drama about whether or not you said you were okay with song lyrics another artist had complete freedom to write whether it bothered you/whether it was gross and tacky or not

[@VivekPatel-ze6jy]

​@@muppetbabygonzo they don't seem to be active in main fandom spaces anymore, but yeah that is a side effect of her not revealing her politics till like 2019

[@princesskittyglitter]

COME QUICK HONEY NEW RO RAMDIN VIDEO JUST DROPPED AND SHES TALKING ABOUT SWIFTIES!!!!

[@vcheekv]

Here for it❤

[@dogfox2152]

Don't forgot the snacks!

[@sabrexi7228]

One of the reasons I loved my senior English teacher was how much he loved Kendrick. He once said that he was one of the greatest artists of all time, and we analyzed King Kunta after reading Invisible Man. Never have any English teachers even entertained the idea of liking rap, let alone praising him like he did. He also taught a class about masculinity at the local community college, and how it’s flaws have permeated through classical literature. Such a cool dude

[@horizon5417]

nice, my high school senior english teacher also did a whole unit on TPAB. i actually remember one of my friends in the class being adamant kendrick should’ve won over taylor (i myself had barely even heard of kendrick lamar back then)

[@northstarjakobs]

TPAB is absolutely a fantastic work to analyze in conjunction with Invisible Man. I wish that more English teachers would bring rap into the classroom, especially because I think rap is a great way to engage students when it comes to talking about verse and poetry (and because some of the best poets writing in the modern day are rappers, even if they wouldn't necessarily identify as such). English class doesn't have to be just about analyzing literature; everything is text. Maybe that's just my English major talking though lol.

[@k3upikachu]

I'm 31 and I wanna sign up for one of his classes lol

[@xiomaraa]

wow he sounds awesome

[@kristen7687]

i took a theater class and my professor used kendrick lamar performing at an award show i believe? as an example of great performance artistry

[@Ethan-qs7fo]

The hottest thing a KZbinr can do is put a progress bar on their sponser 🙏🙏 thank u Ro

[@k3upikachu]

"putting a Ukrainian flag in their display name and now they're too nervous to remove it" is such a perfectly specific description 😂

[@vinnie6716]

"To Pimp a Butterfly is Fine, but-" I've never stopped listening so fast

[@vivian-rs2ms]

"Every bisexual barista would be getting a severance check for overrating Midsommar." ...okay, you got me there, but that is not a crime

[@tabithaaf]

i think that the swifties really have a problem with taking any criticism to taylor swift’s identity from a marginalized perspective because they consider it to be a personal attack. after the whole “antihero” controversy happened and fat people were like “i don’t like how this seems to equate being fat with being morally bad or repulsive” and the response from the fan base was like “well it is bad” it really opened my eyes to the way they view her as kinda both like this real person that they can really support because she’s down to earth, but somehow also this infallible, out-selling, out-performing God-like figure, and that they will punch down on anyone who tries to speak up about concerns with her.

[@charlottehollingsworth9125]

This, this, this. I am a huge fan of Taylor but will sometimes hesitate to say I'm a Swiftie because it comes with so much bizarre "rich white woman is not only perfect but is also me" rhetoric that makes it hard to bond over the acutal music.

[@knightogourd]

And also a fuck ton of them hate fat people lol

[@b.parker1740]

And besides what Ro said in the video about the racial component of dragging TPAB under the notion that Swift and 1989 are just so much better because..."it's pop and reminds me of the 80's," it gives off big "The MCU is the height of cinema and every film outside of the studio system is quaking at its accomplishments" energy. Like, if you prefer studio pop that's hella mainstream on the radio, that's your preference, but you can't write off an layered album musing on decades of racism in America as "so bad compared to Taylor" when the height of Taylor's deep commentary in her music is "Don't be mad or concerned, gays, everyone threatening you are all dirty rednecks" or "I'd be super successful and popular if I was a man" (which she already is, with far less contention than many of her black women contemporaries). Tl;dr: Enjoying pop by a popular musician like Taylor is perfectly fine, but acting like it is 100% superior to the work of a black artist like Kendrick who put so much of themselves and thought into their music when Taylor largely coasts of the idea that her music is good and meaningful in a feminist lens as is, even with her blindspots as a rich white woman, is goofy.

[@sgurhs]

@@b.parker1740 Extremely well put!!

[@Flameclaw123]

@@b.parker1740 The "if I was a man" song drives me nuts bc like, obviously misogyny exists and can certainly have an impact on women's careers, and certainly did have an impact on Taylor Swift's career (ex. when people made a huge deal about her writing songs about love and breakups as if that's not like 80% of pop music). But it just feels so inauthentic coming from arguably one of the most famous and successful people of her generation (and not to mention how it doesn't account for other factors of discrimination like race at all). If she'd wrote the same song in her first or second album I'd have no real problem with it, the song itself is fine, it's just who it's coming from (megastar Taylor Swift) and when she released it (aka at the height of her fame) that makes me kind of hate it lol. Imo TS has a tendency to paint herself as a victim in her songs while also being incredibly wealthy and powerful which rubs me the wrong way

[@Jerrifelton]

ill be honest i had never listened to to pimp a butterfly, but after watching this sat down and listened to the whole thing. i like taylor, i do think 1989 is one of her weaker albums, but i do enjoy it. but man, listening to to pimp a butterfly was an Experience. i felt things, it made me want to research the history of the album. i want to listen to more, i want to be moved like that again. 1989 never did that for me. theyre very different sounds so comparing them is hard but in terms of artistry, to pimp a butterfly takes the cake.

[@ringer1324]

100% agree. I like 1989 a lot but it pales in comparison to TPAB. And shouldn’t even be compared in the first place. They serve a completely different purpose and have barely anything In common.

[@northstarjakobs]

You can only hear an album for the first time once, congrats on being one of the people who got to experience that today.

[@maijashmaija]

as soon as i saw the discourse surrounding swiftiekev i download tpab and listened to it on my flight to a taylor concert and i 100% agree with everything you just said! 1989 is great but it pales in comparison to tpab.

[@lauren-gx1lg]

As someone who has, perhaps, grown INTO liking rap, I love this video. My boyfriend introduced me to a ton of rap and hip hop music and I was shocked and ashamed at how I had single-handedly dismissed such expansive, artistic genres.

[@albummutation2278]

I sincerely feel that the three (modern) genres that are continuously underrated and overlooked are rap, punk (including post-punk, which means gothic stuff too), and metal. They're all absolutely insanely large genres, with deep histories, intricacies, and ties to political discourse and use for giving voices to minorities, and are shot down because of preconceived (and often racist) notions that these genres require less skill than others, or have less value intrinsically because of their sonic or lyrical characteristics. All music is important, especially these genres (even for me personally, as a ciswhite). They've also influenced so many things in mainstream culture that are ignored. It's one thing to acknowledge that you aren't the target audience, or that you just simply don't like that type of music, but to assess it's worth when you don't understand the history, skill, and influences of whatever genre (even white-dominated genres, honestly) is extremely ignorant and makes an entire group of people, even the fans, feel like they're not worth it or good enough. It's consistently why these genres have always been on the backburner of pop culture historically, or even directly demonized like metal, punk, and rap were (and still are). Rap reaching mainstream is entirely because of albums like TPAB and even less "lyrically good" albums like Culture II, because it is such a masterful work that even people who don't like the genre are forced to accept its quality. But swifties and kpop stans and similar are so clouded and damn near brainwashed at times by a hyperconsumerist mindset that ties sales and views to quality, and I feel like many of them don't even truly digest the music they listen to. They listen to bolster the numbers, because it's what they're "supposed" to do, it's how they can make sure they're listening to "quality" music. And it's also like they tie the value of themselves to the numbers of the music they listen to, and then use that to assess the worth of others. These types of people are literally incapable of seeing the bigger picture with music, they cannot assess music with a historical lens, or any true qualitative lens, because to them, music isn't that meta. The only substance they can extrapolate is how popular it is, and if it's not popular, it's not worth it. That's why awards mean so much to them as well, if an artist isn't winning awards, they're not a good artist. They're incapable of understanding the politics of the grammys, and how rigged of a game it is, or they're willfully ignorant to it.

[@casadastraphobia]

​@@albummutation2278 so fucking based thanks for this

[@zkkitty2436]

@@albummutation2278 I mostly agree with you but want to push back on a few things. As a brown person, punk and metal scenes can are incredibly hostile to anyone who isn't white. At this point, a lot of metal and punk are also commodified in the same way that other forms of music are, and that reflects in a degradation of the ethos of the music. You could make the argument that "true" punks and metalheads wouldn't be that way, but as most brown and black people can attest to, racism and bigotry come from places you wouldn't expect. Another thing I want to say is that initially, when the kpop community internationally was pretty small, it was considered alternative. May people with punk leanings also got really into kpop. I experienced this as a former stan,. That being said, the industry itself is very capitalistic and certain parts of artistry and meaning get lost bc of it. That's what ended up pushing me away from kpop-- the illusion popped and I couldn't take the same kind of comfort in it that I used to after seeing the artifice idols had to maintain to keep their success. A third thing is that music history is not easy to access unless you've been raised in it. I kind of bristle when white people get haughty over music bc they don't realize that having someone expose you to and teach you music history is a blessing. For many reasons, including being first gen, that information is not something that was ever passed down to me. My family didn't really have capacity to reflect on or discuss music due to the numerous other things occupying my elders' time. As someone who has learned everything I know about music history through research and in isolation (as opposed to in community) it's really hard to understand the complexities of music history in isolation. Developing my lens required cobbling together many different pieces of information together to try to make sense of music history in America. (if you have sources you'd recommend to learn more, I'd appreciate them) Additionally, the domination of American music/cultural products on a global scale means that many people who encounter American music or art don't have an understanding of the history behind the art they are consuming. Even more so considering the history of music in this country is functionally Black history, which is undertaught and otherwise obscured in a deeply racist society. It takes digging to remove the layers of separation capitalism creates between cultural products and the cultures they come from. I don't agree with the idea that some people are incapable of breaking out of hyperconsumerist views on art. Because those views are taught and enforced by larger systems. Many people haven't been exposed to other forms of music, or maybe don't have the time or energy due to the demands of their back-breaking jobs to spend a lot of time reflecting on art or music. That doesn't seem to be the case with the Tiktok person, but for many others it is. Capitalism divorces people from their humanity, and that includes their ability to experience art in a meaningful way. Framing these stances as personal failings really deflects from the reality that systems of power including racism and capitalism are responsible for the atrocious media literacy we see here.

[@humanbean4037]

@@zkkitty2436 wow I’m white so I did not know that, but looking back that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for commenting ❤

[@ilovekendallroy]

i grew up on taylor swift, the first album on my ipod was red, and i always thought that pop was my favorite genre. when i got older, i realized how rap has history that goes so much deeper than a blonde, blue-eyed white girl who's extremely rich father invested massive amounts of money into a record label to jump start her career.

[@rokikubo]

Its always the people who say "I don't like rap" or "I hate hip hop its all the same" who have the worst takes.

[@Stac827]

Those are the same people that will also shit on Spanish music, (especially Reggaeton) saying it all sounds the same

[@lhvy5066]

​@@Stac827 the hate on reggaeton is purely based on clasism, racism and colonialism! I hate when I see fellow latinos blatantly calling it "criminal music" they're literally so ignorant

[@raisinsssssssss]

I'm not the biggest fan of rap (im personally a rock fan) but after watching this for the first time I sat down and listened to TPAB and it permanently changed me

[@D34TH_D4WN]

We love to see pop girlie stans just deny reality to approve of their idol of obsession

[@michelletaggart157]

There’s hardly anything that boils my blood more than people saying “just tell your favorite artist to make better music.” One, the entitlement that comes from a statement like that is just beyond explanation. I seriously can’t stand this attitude of demanding like a toddler for your fav to just “make more/better music” as if creative undertakings aren’t already a vulnerable form of expression that cannot be rushed or bought (in a pure form, that us). Two, him saying that makes it seem like he values the competitive aspect of winning a Grammy more than the emotional journey an album can take you on. It’s giving “most popular girl in 7th grade taunting you for doing worse than her on a test”. “Just do better and work harder like me.” It doesn’t appreciate the actual work or final product. Anyway, fantastic video!

[@colinouille2786]

there's also the fact some of them are dead???

[@amoureux6502]

Also, what are we defining as "better" in this situation? It feels like he's saying "music that's more like Taylor Swift's 1989" and frankly when I think of my favorite musicians I would consider that a serious downgrade.

[@Asande]

And he did make that "better music" and won a Pulitzer for it

[@ollygaetheirnandez]

why did I think Kendrick DID win album of the year omg I don't watch the grammys but I feel like I heard he won. Now I'm upset.

[@ringer1324]

I wish I didn’t know he lost :(

[@sleepinbelle9627]

he did at least get best rap album for tpab (presumably because macklemore didn't submit an album that year)

[@ollygaetheirnandez]

@@ringer1324 right? life was a little better before I knew Taylor Swift, of all people, won over him

[@theybybaby-gz7rp]

I didn't know either and legit thought the swifty was saying she didn't win and that is because she is white. 😂

[@kylesmith5633]

This happened in 2012 with gkmc (also a jawdropping masterpiece) except when macklemore unexpectedly won aoty he had the good sense to fucking apologize

[@lokcachte]

People forget that rap is more than just one kind of thing/ rapper. It’s such a diverse genre and it’s hard to say you hate it all or all of it sucks if you haven’t tried to listen to anything that isn’t only on the top 40

[@starsINSPACE]

True cringe is anyone who pretends awards shows are basically meritocracies 😂

[@lhvy5066]

it's all the swifties have specifically to be annoying online, they won't let it go

[@SimoneintheSkies]

I was originally apprehensive to watch this video bc usually when non Black creators speak on Black issues, they do so in a way that won’t piss off or call out any of their non Black audience and without getting into too much nuance. I was expecting a Kurtis Conner style of mentioning my community in this video and I was very pleasantly surprised to see how in depth you went with your criticisms and really broke down exactly what was so racist about the Swiftie video. So many “ex rap” fans never took the time to actually engage in the art form and just consumed our culture at a break neck pace bc it was trendy to do, later discarding it like the temporary toy they used it for. Thank you for speaking on this and I hope you continue to include us in your commentary.

[@Dahlia_7951]

As someone who would consider themselves a swiftie, award shows have always been and will always be political. Wins are almost never about the quality of the piece. It’s a collection of popularity, narrative, and voters biases. A good way to explain it in Swiftie terms is folklore vs evermore. While folklore won album of the year and evermore didn’t, it’s not necessarily because folklore is better than evermore. The politics of the awards meant that one artist, especially one that’s won so many times, was never going to win album of the year two times in a row. She probably knows this too, since she didn’t even turn up for the ceremony. Evermore’s loss doesn’t make the winners album undeserving and folklores win doesn’t make any of the albums lower quality. Even folklores win was political because it suited her comeback narrative and it was a perfect album for early covid.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Thank you for understanding how marketing, PR, advertising creates + builds narratives & actually works on a societal level. It's scary how few people seem to understand the aspects often considered "benign" of the giant propaganda machine we're living in.

[@girliepop2]

I’m a big swiftie but damn we can be so wrong and embarrassing. Like what if we didn’t hate on other ppl and what if we did address her white privilege ?? Just a thought

[@melikoko333]

Girl, literally!!!! it’s allllll the fan bases😭💀the annoying ones will embarrass everyone else🫣🙄

[@elisabeth_13]

THIS OMG YES its a real conversation we all need to have one day because some people are just so unaware and its embarrassing for them and for us

[@VivekPatel-ze6jy]

Online fandom is simultaneously a community building gift, and a massive curse. most people are cool, but the loudest voices are always the idiots. Also bad, when I used to be on twitter, I only really trusted swifties who also talked about other singers at some points. At least you they can appreciate other music then

[@imokage]

Who cares that she white

[@cremetangerine82]

I got ratioed in an anti-Taylor Swift subreddit for criticizing her mild condemnation on her white supremacist fans. How HARD was it to say "I don't want your money?"

[@ratboylegends1274]

Very good video! Also re: the doohickey that got Shinzo Abe, after that whole incident when police investigated the guy who got shinzo’s apartment they found even more fucked up guns like the one he used. Like one of them had nine barrels it’s so crazy

[@roramdin]

custom crafting recipes fr

[@lucastaylor3399]

Truly the guy was in his Fallout 4 arc

[@LeoVader]

holy shit "difficulty level: give me god of war" got me so good

[@roramdin]

Thank you my goat

[@simpulacra]

the notion of "growing out of rap" is widespread because non black people use rap to signal their personal youthful rebellion without a cause. and when baby's rebellion is done they put away their black appropriation to get "serious" aka go back to appreciating what whiteness can do for them.

[@candacem8123]

I can't believe, out of all of the incredible zingers in this video, "1989 was for people who only buy vinyls at Hobby Lobby" is the one that made me laugh out loud (excellent and correct video also--thank you for your righteous anger)

[@somethingsyzy]

I'm a huge Taylor Swift fan, but I will be the first to admit she is not everything that Swifties claim that she is when it comes to creating music. She makes hits and many of her lyrics are beautiful and iconic, but she is not this ginormous influential poet of our time like many people try to argue. I will always argue that others like Mitski are miles ahead. And saying 1989 is her best album when Speak Now exists? Bold.

[@erinjkrizakk]

speak now stans 🤝

[@swenmarondel2326]

I kinda love that the automatic captions are so bad that it actually said 'I'm thankful for Iran for sponsoring this video'

[@fusetunes]

i'm just so tired of stan culture in general. it seems like everywhere you turn, no matter what circles you're in, the majority of people will be 100% obsessed with whatever that thing is to the point where it's their entire personality and even the slightest criticism will be taken as a personal offense. they always have to put down the 'competitors' too. it sucks cause i love talking about my interests, no matter how mainstream or obscure, but i've never really felt comfortable in any fanbase due to this. and on the opposite side, it's annoying seeing things i dislike or find problematic be praised by so many people who won't even stop to think about consuming their media critically

[@Vickynger]

yeah ive had the same experience. most of the fanbase of *anything* is not interested in critiquing things or having nuanced takes, they just want a circle jerk. and the rest are either complete haters who constantly complain how much better everything was a few years ago, or theyre barely online, or they have nothing interesting to say about the topic at hand. ive been an active fan for years now but have never made any online friends because of this...

[@Danislashed]

And 9 times out of ten the stans in that culture are weirdly racist 😭

[@frogblehfrog143]

I find it funny that they said "but not everyone likes rap" like that doesn't mean that some people also don't like pop lol

[@connorskicks1961]

I’m not a Swiftie, but I could listen to Ro explain anything

[@colinouille2786]

tbh i didn't even have knowledge that swifties were a thing

[@sporkzzz]

Same I don't listen to either of these artists mentioned but I'm here

[@sydney6152]

as someone who was at a taylor show last night…..blondie did not deserve album of the year. the same way that harry’s house being 2022 aoty felt like a joke

[@indieoregano]

I am a Harry's House defender til I die. 😔

[@sydney6152]

@@indieoregano it’s not a bad album but beyoncé was robbed and the whole “things like this don’t happen to people like me” incident rlly twisted the knife

[@indieoregano]

@sydney6152 yes I agree! Also I'm completely ignorant to any incident that occurred so I'll definitely have to look into that :)) i was just making a silly lil joke

[@ruminationstation4200]

​​​​@@sydney6152 I think he meant he's from a working class background and only got famous through a fluke reality show, which is true. Even Beyonce's family was solidly middle class before she got famous. Truly working class people are few and far between in the industry. I agree it was horribly tone deaf to phrase it like he did, allegedly he was quite drunk & he always seems a bit clueless from the little I know about him

[@lamibonxd]

@@ruminationstation4200 ok he coulda been working class prior to …being on one of the most famous talent shows but sorry living your teen years in one of the most popular and successful boy bands of all time isn’t too working class lmfao

[@MoMo-rx4zr]

Even compared to Dua Lipa’s Future Nostalgia and Miley’s Plastic Hearts, the only thing 80s about 1989 (one of my favorites from her) is the synthesizer. No because if there’s one thing that Taylor Swift fans have taught me, it’s that they’re quite possibly the most classist and racist fandom in terms of pushing the “she’s women so oppressed” against any criticism. It’s the same way kpop stans use the “but Korean” to push back against any racism or classism accusations. I remember the Jubilee video where they accused the Asian swiftie of being a fake fan because she said she was disappointed Taylor Swift didn’t disavow the racist stans calling her an Aryan princess. I like her music. I love the 1989 album, but it’s an objective fact that her father being a stockbroker for Meryl and Lynch (one of the most well known) really helped her career arch. Kendrick Lamar won a Pulitzer, but black art has a history of being disrespected by the Recording Academy. In middle schools I was always a stan of artists, but of all fandoms hers felt the most alien space as a POC in the early to mid 2010s. Even now, I see more South Asian influencers who are “swifties”, but they’re usually the removed from the culture, grew up middle class types. Also, why are people past the age of middle school still “stanning” anyone.

[@oldchannel611]

It's very funny to see a stan assume that any fan of an artist is just as obsessive and devoted as them. They assume that objectivity and deeper analysis is impossible if someone is arguing that something they like is worse than something else. They assume that the favoritism is equal on both sides. The whole "make better music" thing is very indicative of that.

[@steakrappedinbacon]

Over the past two years I was introduced to rap and not just the popular side of it. I’ve been blown away every time I listen to a different album tackling a super specific social commentary and I love it so much. Undeniably the most progressive and ever changing genre ever. Open Mike eagle, Billy woods, run the jewels and many others will never get the flowers that they deserve and it’s something that actually keeps me up at night.

[@steakrappedinbacon]

Oh AND how could I forget Clipping, one of the most experimental and creative groups I’ve ever had the pleasure to listen to

[@hi.365]

@@steakrappedinbacon clipping is so good thank you for mentioning them

[@sylmaerie]

i LOOOOVE clipping i met daveed once best day ever

[@himbokoopa]

BILLY WOODS MENTIONED probably one of my favorite lyricists at the moment, he’s so damn good at puzzling me with every verse he makes

[@XerxesTexasToast]

@@steakrappedinbacon CLIPPING HAS BEEN MENTIONED THIS IS NOT A DRILL I'm more of an EDM fan, so Clipping's harsh noise and industrial tendencies REALLY appeal to me. Also: can't forget Death Grips

[@honkstheclown8631]

sniper trained on my head at all times pulled out their phone to watch the new ro ramdin video giving me ~20 minutes to run. unfortunately i am also watching. its swiftie time

[@BlackWizardClub]

Hearing people saying an album is good just because of streams and sales as a kpop fan is buck wild. People do know fan organizations literally coordinate stream boosts and tell people how to do so and when? I've literally seen people do giveaways and offer to PAY people to stream and buy albums and I know fans of American artists do it too.*edited to add* Not to mention people buy multiple albums to support and some even buy all the tracks individually to boost numbers. Like, Sales and streams will never be an accurate measure of quality

[@CanIswearinmyhandle]

The guy literally ends the video with telling people to stream taylors album! He's doing it! He's one of the people artificially inflating numbers and then acts like it's a measure of success!

[@BlackWizardClub]

​@@CanIswearinmyhandle the lack of self-awareness is incredible 😂

[@sadmermaid]

Justin Bieber literally did it for 'yummy'

[@nathanielcraig3588]

The Swiftie guy is giving "if your homeless, just buy a house!" vibes. Sweetie, just because you've made Taylor Swift your entire personality doesn't mean she's actually that good. I bet he thinks he's deep because he's made Taylor Swift his personality, yikes.

[@VivekPatel-ze6jy]

Like her music is good, but if you never want to listen to someone else, I'm highly concerned. And there's the cynic in me thinking he's defo just doing these takes for views

[@xSmythosx]

to any swifties in this comment sections who now maybe wanna give kendrick a listen, i wish i could provide a flow chart but definitely listen to to pimp a butterfly, good kid maad city, and DAMN. listen to each one beginning to end uninterrupted if possible, they’re all concept albums to one degree or another (the first two especially so) that benefit heavily from being paid close attention. damn is maybe the most accessible especially given the features on that album, but to pimp a butterfly really is a masterpiece. it’s the citizen kane of music

[@TheAbigailDee]

If this TikToker's video gets people who don't usually explore the genre into Kendrick Lamar and rap music in general, that would be a net positive! Hope that's the largest outcome.

[@knewyoudhauntallofmywhatifs]

omg thank you so much for this!! i'm a swiftie who agrees with this video wholeheartedly and i'm about to listen to to pimp a butterfly now. i'm gonna have to screenshot this to listen to more later :)

[@briteboy6131]

I'm an old that used to "hate" hip hop as a teen (when my oldest brother was very into Eminem and Kid Rock), and I completely agree with you on doing a deep dive on hip hop. A lot of people that aren't super familiar with hip hop (white people) build up these odd unspoken biases towards it that are definitely rooted in unchecked casual racism. They'll actually realize that there are countless hip hop artists with serious and thoughtful lyrics, and that the songs they look down on are usually just songs about having fun or something like that, songs that they've heard countless pop and rock versions of.

[@cherry_whine]

Yeah I was in the same boat. Once I started to actually be able to comprehend media, rap has completely been redefined in my head. I didn’t like it because I didn’t understand any of the commentary and didn’t know enough about music to enjoy the artistry.

[@tarotsushima3332]

Yeah the whole "Rap is all about sex, drugs and violence" sentiment runs so hollow when that's a major component of a lot of classic rock songs as well, which these people idolize. That and acting like rap has no creative merit when freestyling and bouncing off of each other lyrically is such a common practice in the genre, so it gets pretty obvious it's less about what's being said and more about who's saying it and why more AA have gone against non black people having opinions on rap and hip hop if they can't keep their biases at the door.

[@Chachixo]

This is the perfect time to keep in mind that just because you like something doesn't mean it's objectively good and therefore, it may not objectively be the best and that's ok. I like lots of things that I know are not the best things and I am happy with that. You don't have to justify your taste by making things up. Just preferring it is enough.

[@Sevenpuddingsx]

"she didnt win cause shes white" whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boy

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

you know that when a video starts with that its gonna be... Wild

[@Sevenpuddingsx]

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 comin outta the gate SWINGING

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

@@Sevenpuddingsx with a bag of _teeth_

[@nyasputin]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@spacecowboi5466]

you have ascended beyond mother… you are the whole family reunion. you are the line of ancestors standing heroically a la avatar the last air bender.

[@LezbeOswald]

his argument that To Pimp a Butterfly shouldn’t have won because “not everyone likes rap” is crazy because you can say the same thing about 1989 because not everyone likes pop lmfao. just because pop tends to be the most popular genre in america doesn’t mean pop albums should be the ones to win album of the year time and time again.

[@eloiseklassen8681]

as a massive swiftie (who got sent the original tiktok by many non-swiftie friends lmao) i LOVE 1989, it's not "objectively" her best album but it's one of my personal favourites as it got me through a very difficult time in my life. i take issue with the idea that music or any art form for that matter that doesn't explore "deep" themes is ultimately not as good as or more deserving of awards than music/art that does. apart from that, i completely agree with all the criticism of the orignal tiktok. I'm a big pop fan so obviously I like taylor's album more but that's my personal taste, I'm not gonna go around saying that it's better than a specific rap album or better than a rock album or a fucking classical music album or whatever tf because I'm not a rap fan. I'm not a rock fan. I'm not a classical music fan. Like literally stop trying to be a judge of all music if you have a limited point of view. but even if you believe that 1989 was better, you cannot deny that taylor swift's whiteness played a role in win. like you literally cannot deny it. it really frustrates me when people believe that privilege and working hard are mutually exclusive. is 1989 an amazing pop album? yes. did taylor swift work extremely hard on the album? yes. did her conventional attractiveness and whiteness help propel the album to popularity and critical acclaim? also yes. just because she worked hard doesn't mean that she also wasn't impacted from factors outside of her control that she benefited from (ie. being cis, white, conventionally attractive etc.) and swifties need to stop pretending that she wasn't ://

[@Jolie991]

"don't go watch his videos" don't worry queen i wasn't even thinking about it 👍

[@heyitsnyixie_1559]

It's funny that he was talking about "growing out of rap" when rap was a genre I grew INTO. I had a strained relationship with rap because I would associate it with the kids who bullied me. After changing environments I gave it a second chance and loved it.

[@spacecowboi5466]

im like a little stimulant addicted rat, i see ro ramdin notif, i press play. nourishment be damned, gimme that sweet, sweet content.

[@elizabethpage_]

I’m a Taylor Swift hater purely because whenever I talk to a Swiftie and say I think her music is “fine” they ATTACK ME. It’s fine if you’re a fan of something, but dear LORD let’s calm down a little bit y’all. There are artists I would defend to the ends of the earth, but even I can recognize that their music is not perfect or better than all other music. It’s so subjective and being annoying about it just drives me up the wall.

[@ho-sette]

I love taylor but I wouldn't blame you lol

[@v1626]

They act like she's PERFECT, too, jesus christ. She's a human being who knows how to ride the trends to success and cultivates a certain image for herself, she's very flawed (and I deeply do not respect her private jet setting), but people hang on her every word and act like she's a gay icon, for literally what I do not know. Some of them even act like she's closeted gay and trying to signal through her lyrics???? Obsessed behavior. Her music is so not for me, but it's fine to listen to whatever. So many swifties are just insane.

[@faygrace824]

As a Swiftie, dude this person is insane. I would say Taylor is my favorite singer, but that’s mostly do to nostalgia and other factors, but there are better singers out there. I think the Swiftie community is just very ingrained in their own world and have the idea that if their favorite is seen as the best, that they are being invalidated. Idk that’s just my thoughts.

[@charlottehollingsworth9125]

You're so right, I'm also a Swiftie and sometimes the fandom feels so unhinged in the way they react to anyone not absolutely adoring Taylor the way they do. Like, she can be my favorite without anyone else agreeing!

[@user-be3iu9vz4s]

the fact those psychos doxed a critic for giving her album an 8 was the last straw for me. I used to follow a lot of accs about taylor but now I just listen to her music. I don't engage in the fandom anymore, it's peak toxicity rn

[@saturn6563]

@@user-be3iu9vz4s I’m a Swiftie and I agree 100%. The fandom is mostly toxicity right now, I can name many more examples of the Swifties being toxic. Best part, I’ve only been a Swiftie since November 2022 and I can already name several occasions that has happened since then. Now I’m only associating myself with the very few Swifties who are non-toxic and have common sense.

[@logan317b]

​@@saturn6563 ​Yeah I left the online swiftie space awhile ago. The worst is twitter and tiktok. I could write a whole essay on how toxic the fandom has become, it feels like there's a new controversy multiple times a week from fans just being insane, and it is only getting worse. I also just have a few swiftie friends now who are chill and reasonable. I'm not going back to that space any time soon.

[@enjoyitwhileitlasts]

“but the idea that rap is an infantile fixation, something that you grow out of, you realize you never really liked, as you move onto taylor swift and pop and folk genres dominated by wealthier, whiter artists is a racially charged idea” THANK YOU

[@spoonmeanie5644]

Not only does he need to listen to more hip hop he needs to listen to more pop as well. "Smart pop music" has existed for a long time and I'd argue people like Björk and Fiona Apple have made much smarter music than Taylor.

[@QuintessentialQs]

Swift is dumb pop music that doesn't know it's dumb, which actually makes it even dumber than something like Katy Perry or Kesha which clearly knows how dumb it is. And saying Swift started "smart pop" is even funnier considering 1989 came out the year after Lorde broke out... and also literal decades of things like (as you mentioned) Bjork or Fiona Apple. Or y'know... going all the way back to The Beatles.

[@tiredcerulean]

and the rhetoric that a black person, in this case kendrick, needs to just “try/work harder” is also very stemmed in racism, specifically during the jim crow era and after segregation

[@nikkiq2494]

I am not a swiftie nor am I into rap. So I literally don’t have a horse in this race. But Kendrick is a poet. The way he can write prose that digs deep into the experience of a black person in America and make it sound so catchy that it’s bumped in predominantly white fraternity houses is incredible. He puts so much passion into his craft and I enjoy his music when I do hear it. Taylor swift is a songwriter and she is talented. There is absolutely no denying that. But her music doesn’t cross populations the way Kendrick’s does. She writes about her own experiences, and she’s very good at that! However her fanbase is (at least a large majority of it) people like herself. Her music doesn’t really reach across aisles and appeal to multiple different populations for multiple reasons.

[@tattybojangles5420]

this isnt even the worst swiftie i thought you were talking abt

[@buttercupghost]

I haven't listened to either of these albums aside from the songs I've heard on accident/out in the wild, but you are really making me want to listen to to pimp a butterfly, tbh.

[@anewplasticidea]

it's a great album

[@hadiali621]

GO LISTEN TO IT !!!!!!!!!!!! very much worth it, top 5 albums oat

[@user-be3iu9vz4s]

do it ❤

[@Raaaah__]

it’s utterly incredible and worth a listen, if you have the time you should definitely check it out!

[@TheAbigailDee]

You absolutely should!!

[@elena_1776]

Lol I totally agree 1989 isn't even an 80s sounding album, it was named that after the year she was born not because it was particularly 80s inspired in sound?? Anyway I'm a Swiftie, I love 1989, and even I think To Pimp A Butterfly should've won.

[@tortured.poet.89]

NOT THE NAIR GUY 😭😭😭

[@cherry_whine]

It’s crazy that 1989 won not only because TPAB was nominated but because Sound and Color was also nominated. Sound and Color is such a unique and musically gorgeous album. Brittany Howard is such a unique and timeless vocalist.

[@Oobs212]

She won because 1989 is easily digestible and award shows love easily digestible. Like how did Adele's 25 win best album over Beyonce's Lemonade back in '17. Not saying 25 was bad, but Lemonade hit the scene out of nowhere like a meteorite.

[@isaacleguin2171]

God it's so weird how stan culture people relate to their faves. "Why don't you channel that energy into telling your favorite artist to do better" as if they would care???? they're making the music they want to make. Anyway, Ro Ramdin's advice to do a deep dive on rap is good, but I don't know where to start! Anyone got any advice for me? Should I just listen to the Kendrick album she mentions and see where that takes me? I like Kendrick.

[@JosieFawkes]

Hi, I'm a rap/hip-hop enthusiast and I would love to help you with your deep dive. The best way to help you in my opinion is to ask (since there's so many different elements to the genre one could be into) is what do you like about Kendrick's music? Usually it's easiest to start from there.

[@isaacleguin2171]

@@JosieFawkes Thank you so much for the offer! I've only listened to a few Kendrick songs, actually, I think - I tend to find one song I like and then listen to it on repeat. So the ones I know are 'I LOVE MYSELF' and 'Swimming Pools.' I'm tempted to say I like him for his lyrics because lyrics ARE generally very important to me, and I know Kendrick's are popular with critics - but I'm not totally sure about that because I feel like I've definitely listened to a few rap songs where I looked at the lyrics and was like "ah yes, this is High Art" and then never listened to it again. So I think the background music and the choruses is pretty key? Because whenever I hear Nicki Minaj as a featured rapper, I enjoy listening to her a lot, but when I go to look up more of her music, I cannot stand the sugary-sweet beats. I'm listening to 'I love Myself' again and yeah, I do think the way the background track sort of weaves around itself and layers is a big part of what I like. But my favorite part of the song is the bit where he goes "I went to war last night/With an automatic weapon, don't nobody call a medic/I'm a do it 'til I get it right." I think about those lines a lot! I also like "Show Goes On" by Lupe Fiasco, "All of the Lights" by Kanye West (Unfortunate about his politics 😬), and "Thrift Store" by Macklemore. (I realize that last one kinda doesn't fit but I sure do spend a lot of time at the thrift store.) And I hate Eminem, although I'm not sure if that's an issue with his sound or just his general persona.

[@isaacleguin2171]

I thought of a few more I hadn't listened to in awhile, I also like "Hate it or Love it" by The Game, "Day n Nite" and "Man in the Moon" by Kid Cudi, and that song "What's Up Danger" from the Into the Spider-Verse soundtrack.

[@JosieFawkes]

@isaacleguin2171 So I'm personally curious because all of the songs you've mentioned liking by Kendrick, Kid Cudi and the other ones listed are their singles. Those are supposed to be more or less made for radio play so without further listens it might be a bit harder to track down how to get you started.

[@JosieFawkes]

I will say that you enjoying the backing track for "I" does get some interest going. What music do you usually listen to if you don't mind me asking?

[@maryosterby2851]

"Stream 1989"!?!? She's famously rerecording it because she doesn't own the rights to it. Way to stan 🙄

[@aidanbresnahan684]

Omg is this dude the Nair guy?

[@oftinuvielskin9020]

About rap, I think the "rap as a phase" thing might be connected to the "edgy phase" in teenagers and how boys (white ones especially) use rap to express and affirm their masculinity - especially the "gangsta" or "bitches and money" type of song, and how even femme people kind of are expected to be cool with that, even though that genre of rap songs is kind of hostile to us. A lot of white rap fandom as I have tangentally experienced it gives off very Kendall Roy vibes. You know - appropriative of the hypermasculinity of the rap artists' gangsta or pimp persona, vicariously enjoying the "subversive" elements, the sexuality and violence and "fuck the police", while also being kind of disrespectful and disinterested in racial issues. Maybe that is a bit of a reductive view of the white boy rap fans though - Since I tend to shun them like the plague, it's not based on very many data points. That kind type of rap also kind of makes me uncomfortable because I start to wonder - is this intentionally playing into stereotypes about black men and women for the purpose of appealing to a white gaze, or kind of fitting into it because of market forces and stuff? Is it bad that it feels stereotypical and exploitative to me when maybe it's authentic to the artist? I do know there is a lot more rap than that which appeals to little white boys though, and I definitely want to expand my horizons there beyond just stumbling over single tracks or artists who use rap in a way I enjoy. I'm way more of a beautiful/cool soundscapes person over a lyric focused person though, which is kind of the opposite of what a lot of rap is (or has been) so exploring rap music is one of those things which gets pushed into the future for me, just because I'm lazy and don't know where to begin

[@Vickynger]

"beautiful/cool soundscapes" sounds so intriguing, do you have any artists you recommend for someone looking into something like that?

[@melanino]

Honestly. IGOR by Tyler The Creator would be right up your alley

[@khodges72]

Check out Nujabes

[@moaharbor]

@@Vickynger I really recommend Kikuo. He’s a vocaloid artist so if you aren’t used to the sound you probably won’t like it, but he makes very ambient horror-esque music!

[@aliceramenhead]

​​@@melanino yes!!! i was SO ready to rec tyler once i read "beautiful/cool soundscapes" lmao, you have immaculate taste 👌

[@tonibalogna]

You saying UCI (the school i attend) out of nowhere snapped me out of my meal-induced dissociative state and made me actually focus up which was crazy

[@rosaryrose2505]

I'm not a huge Hip-Hop/Rap fan. I'm also super white, so that's a massive debuff on my music taste. But even I know How to Pimp a Butterfly is a masterpiece, and saying otherwise is insane.

[@lousielouise8716]

Wren is the perfect sponsor for this after we learned about celebs (including Taylor Swift's) private jet habits. Go off Pollution Queen! Give us nothing! Yaaaas!

[@greenonionbabey]

The other thing about the "not everyone likes rap" is the implication that everyone must like or be able to relate to taylor swift, and further that she's relatable by virtue of being a "typical" cishet white all-american woman, whose experiences must naturally be more universal than those of a Black man. I'm a white afab person who has known of taylor swift since literally Tim McGraw hit country radio in 2006 when I was in kindergarten, and was a huge fan of hers up until I hit middle school and started to realize I was nothing like her and never could be, because I'm not the right class or the right sexuality or even the "right type" of white person (I'm Jewish, meanwhile neo-n@zis are out there calling ms swift their aryan princess with their whole chest). I relate to maybe 3 songs in her entire discography. And that doesn't take away from her artistry or success, I think it's numbingly stupid and anti-intellectual to assume art has value only because you relate to it, but it truly boils my blood when certain swifties say shit like that and then act like it's not blatantly racist, along with a complete misunderstanding of diverse personhood in general. If you can relate to taylor that says a lot more about you than it does about anyone else. And again that's not a bad thing, unless you use it to be this guy, and then you're fucking awful sorry

[@longlivebeans]

If rap is so awful & pop is so great, why does nearly every hit pop single for the past 10 years have a rap feature? If pop stars are superior, wouldn’t they be able to stand on their own?

[@fiveam8626]

taylor swift has sang about relationships since...like forever. its the most consumer friendly topic imaginable, it doesnt go deeper than that. there are so many ways to say "you broke my heart"

[@erinjkrizakk]

taylor has definitely written about far more topics than just heartbreak or relationships though. I don't think she has made anything as close to the masterpiece of tpab, but it's reductive to claim that she only writes about relationships.

[@woonggiyoutube]

ntm on the nair guy i love him

[@Flanclanman]

This jacket, Rose, this JACKET 😮❤

[@loujensen9375]

This "if your favorites don't make awards it means they don't make good music" thing is unreal like... have you really NEVER liked an album that wasn't popular? I guess that sounds kind of pretentious, but I can't imagine not having any "people may not know them but they're the world to me :)" music.

[@mooshrum6122]

NEW RO UPLOAD‼️🗣️

[@roramdin]

plus i just cured a rare disease (don't inquire as to the details)

[@davdass4797]

I freaking love your videos, you manage to keep it so fresh by mixing videos that are thought provoking art with those that are artfully picking apart the most random people that i otherwise would have never heard off.

[@djmckee5941]

“i used to listen to logic and watsky in freshman year of high school and now i listen to good music like the rich minion yeat song” is the best thing ive heard today edit: “i have a reverse oedipus complex, it’s where i don’t wanna fuck my mom” is now the best thing i’ve heard today

[@makaylakraus1897]

reverse oedipus complex goes harder than 7.01 grams of cocaine

[@tiredcerulean]

also, referring to frank ocean as a “fan mad their fav didn’t win” is so ignorant, like what so crazy about a black man in the music industry rightfully calling out the unfairness that another black musician faced?

[@derutceldoor7410]

Man, Im not even that much of a rap/hip hop fan but but like, even I can see that to pimp a butterfly is an absolute masterpiece

[@hannahwicks7197]

i think this is linked to the pressure to have a "good" taste in music. if people are told that listening to bad music is cringe then they will try and claim that music that is shallow and fun and pop is also great and full of artistry. some music is just there to be enjoyed and people should enjoy it without trying to convince themselves and everyone else that they have a highbrow, tasteful music taste. it's okay to enjoy fun music even if it isn't good music.

[@KittyTrackz]

wait is that the nair guy

[@noejaun2540]

"If everyone lost their job every time they had a bad take, we'd have a labour crisis" Or we just found a backdoor to a general strike...

[@lauraebk]

Ro I have never been more exited for one of your videos I'm gonna watch this on repeat for months possibly

[@skimmy3022]

every time ro uploads i get so happy, thank you for making these videos and keep up the good work :)

[@damekkoDark]

I'm not into swift(or pop) music that much but some of my friends are. And I admire her being true to herself, extrapolating her personal stories in songs that said, she's working on way smaller scale. no comparison

[@ar6543]

As a life long The Go-Gos and The Cars fan (I’m only twenty but I hang out with my parents too much lmao), as soon as I heard this person say that Taylor Swift’s 1989 “brought back the eighties sound,” I immediately burst into tears. Like bitch I wish.

[@moomfortwendi]

Your humor is so amazing and intelligent- I’ll be laughing hard asf while also listening to you make points that are so beautifully worded and really exemplify what I’m thinking but can’t express. Thank you Ro, you’re gorgeous ❤

[@moomfortwendi]

Also the fact that Kendrick is on bad blood lol he had a hand in one of the best songs on 1989

[@jojosgames8]

what a strange fellow! i wonder what else he uploads

[@ciscokid3430]

"To Pimp a Butterfly is *fine*" gtfo... this HAS to be bait wtf T_T

[@TimmehJay]

Such a kind and measured response. I really dig your style. Keep it up.

[@makeshiftdoves]

truly hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[@notsogoodbassplayer]

I absolutely love your deadpan delivery of absurdist humor. Great video!

[@_lexxxxxx_]

swiftie’s can either be the sweetest human beings you’ll ever meet or the lowest pieces of scum to ever roam the earth. No in between. This dude is a clear example of number 2.

[@cxrses]

Uploaded that tiktok to the world wide web without a gun to ANYONE'S head 👁️👄👁️

[@treydles]

editing goes crazy on this one, fantastic as per usual ro!