Vinland Saga Season 2 Proves You Wrong About Everything

Thorfinn as a character has been receiving hate from fans because he is "soft" and "weak". I disagree with all my heart. You misunderstood Vinland Saga and this video aims to revisit the story of Vinland Saga
Vinland Saga season 2 has come to an end. If you're a fan of Vinland Saga, then you know why this season is special! The arc is titled Farmland Arc or the Slave Arc and is by far one of the best parts of the original manga. This anime series is truly exceptional and it's sure to captivate your attention from beginning to end. With stunning visuals and thrilling action, Vinland Saga Season 2 is a must-watch for fans of anime everywhere! I will say this, it does suck that we will not get more episodes of Vinland Saga. We will have to wait for season 3 to come out. Vinland Saga Season 2 was beautiful, there were so many heartbreaking moments and so much growth for our beloved characters like Thorfinn. I will catch up to the manga since Studio Mappa might not be working on a season 3 for a long time. Who knows...
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Side note my favorite episodes from Vinland Saga season 2 are episodes 9, 12, 17,20,21, and 22! The anime openings are truly awesome and I love having the soundtrack on in the background when reading normal books aswell as manga and manhwa!

[@2blover869]

I remember your old video on Vinland Saga and I will say this again here. Vinland Saga is truly one of a kind, its hard to find anime that manage to do what Vinland Saga does. The violence and animation are great but it comes down to characters like Thorfinn and Asekladd, that make the series all the more better.

[@hecticjdj7488]

Best anime since naruto and attack on titan

[@blazingdragon9607]

W, agreed

[@gudmundurThor96Nr2]

As an Icelander who studied the sagas in school and on my own. This is one of the most accurate presentations of the sagas. the only Hollywood movie that is as accurate is The Northman mostly thanks to the director assigning the Icelandic historian and artist Sjón to co-write the script.

[@captainchau]

​@@hecticjdj7488wtf is up with this take... I don't get it. This spend 11 episodes on farming...I honestly watch the first 3 episodes fully and I speed watched through the rest until about episode 12. The dudes are just farming.

[@hecticjdj7488]

@@captainchau your a kid you’ll like it more as an adult lol

[@sofiakaos5278]

Even if he had killed Askeladd the result would be the same. The emptyness would might have been worse because after killing him he would feel a deep regret after realizing he liked him as a father figure

[@DecafisHere]

His relationship with Thorfinn and vice versa is so interesting.

[@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947]

It's lacked therapy and advice about power figures.

[@thephoenix4093]

strongly disagreed. I do not think he liked him. he hated him for killing his actual father and pretty much taking away his innocence at a young age. and he would have never killed askeladd since it is his reason for living.

[@dillonmackay683]

@@thephoenix4093towards the end he saw him as a father figure and a goal, Askeladd even said it, no matter how many times we fight you will never win, cause he never takes a break and never actually goes for the kill

[@thephoenix4093]

@@dillonmackay683 towards the end of what, askeladd's life? or season 1 or season 2? towards the end of askeladd's life thorfinn was screaming at him to get up and fight him in a duel, because he was afraid of not being able to keep fighting him. not because he cared enough about him to not want him to die... and when did thorfinn say it.

[@johnnielurker]

bro his reunion to his mother is enough to make a grown man cry 😢 imagine so many years he forget his family and go home

[@305Independent]

Thorfinn wasn't captured. He was sold into slavery by Canute as punishment for cutting his face.

[@UnathiGX]

My spider sense also went.....😶‍🌫

[@KafujiSato]

It is also Canute's atonement for taking Thorfinn's father figure from him. Under normal circumstances, Canute must send Thorfinn to death.

[@kennethyu6041]

Its canute way of saving him because he will be killed there if canute didn't intervene

[@305Independent]

@@KafujiSato well I don't think Canute would've punished Thorfinn at all if it wasn't for his position

[@thorfinnthegoatmc]

I really hope that Vinland Saga gets like a AOT worldwide recognition. This masterpiece really deserves it

[@marianomateus5295]

Decent chance thats it getting one. When they only show action for like the last 3 episodes shounen whales gonna be droppin that aot atleast provided some build up evrey episode

[@linkbase6558]

@@marianomateus5295it’s arguable that there is buildup every episode. however, it is hard for people to understand that the buildup will be different from now on, and how that is still a good thing. i, and countless others, could not wait week after week to watch this due to the buildup. it easily deserves recognition the way aot does. i’m not saying vinland is better or the best thing ever, but for what it has accomplished thus far with it’s compelling story, it deserves worldwide attention.

[@gabrielchovan-spence4215]

@@linkbase6558way better than aot

[@champadevi2581]

​@@gabrielchovan-spence4215nah both are great.

[@zarathos630]

I have no enemies got very famous

[@cokecan6169]

Some people might argue that the execution of some parts could have been better, but what cements this story's position for me is how daring and completely abnormal it is compared with modern storytelling. Cynicism and doubt pervade most of the good modern stories, and for good reason: how could we believe that things could be good when it's clear that so much is going to shit? Yet Vinland Saga chooses to answer this question in the most optimistic way possible while not denying the fact that evil really does exist, and that no man really has the power to confront it all on his own. It is a genuine problem I have with a lot of literature, because even in the really good ones, they only ever ask the question of why is everything so awful, but never provides the answr. Vinland Saga has the answer: go out and help. Become a true warrior. Do good. It's such a simple message, but one that has all but vanished from modern media and even religion, where everyone is only concerned about rights and privileges and punishing the "wicked" from their point of view.

[@kamuyking551]

this is very akin to my own feelings on Vinland Saga. like... Thors gives us the show's thesis statement at the beginning: "you have no enemies. nobody has any enemies. there is no one that you need to hurt." it's the most impossible thing to believe... looking around at the world, it seems to provide evidence to the contrary constantly. I think that, if you believe Thors already, then watching season 1 is watching a tragedy. but if you can't believe Thors, or you're struggling with it, or you're on the fence... season 1 is proof. and it has to start by acknowledging the hardest, worst, most hopeless and frustrating potentials of the human experience. this is how you know the story means it. this is how the story convinces you to believe it. we're not just painting over the flaws... there are huge problems to overcome. but we have to choose to do it anyway. the fight for peace is the hardest struggle you can choose. do it anyway... especially when it's hard. that's when it's most important. "you have no enemies" won't be true until you decide to make it true, starting with your own two hands. it's a statement of intent, and it is also teachable. violence is easy, but it will leave you with no joy if you keep falling into it. kindness is hard, but it's the process by which you create good in the world wherever you are. both are a cycle, and you can perpetuate it. you just have to keep choosing it, over and over again, every time.

[@juicejooos]

I disagree. Modern stories *only* care about saying that you should be good, to the point that people are being brought up thinking of that exclusively, while completely disregarding why they should do it, or why evil exists in the first place. For the example you made about "modern activism", people you're referring to I see disregard empathy to put the empowerment of the person acting in favor of such activism as the center, because doing good is treated almost like a job, with its own priced value. And I think Thorfinn is different because, in his eyes, there is no inherent value and there is never a direct course of action he can take that would solve every situation, because no person is the same: the focus is always about the people involved and what's happening in a situation, not about how he fits into such a situation or what he can do or say that makes him right. I guess you can say it's selflessness in its purest form.

[@DerBrasilianerKaiser]

That's the main reason I hate dark/grim dark fantasy genre. Ironicaly, Vinland Saga is far more realistic than these kind of "Adult Fantady", because yeah the world is cruel and innocent people die, but still have hope. Tbf I can't even remember the last midia I read/watched which has this message, every midia now is nihilist/pessimist.

[@adityannair8951]

​@@DerBrasilianerKaiserman u must be a 3 year old If u think Vinland saga is realistic It is the most unrealistic thing Thorfinn ideology is far more childish i have seen Maybe u haven't touched grass or seen the real world Everything he does doesn't happen in real life He is a boy and a immature kid who doesn't have the knowledge of the world

[@mepollack]

I was a pretty big fan of the first season of Vinland Saga, but it always felt like it was following a shonen character through a seinin world and, practically all the way to the end, Thorfinn maintained that role without showing much in the way of growth. I loved Askeladd, and while I enjoyed watching Thorfinn, I can't say he stood as much more than a vehicle for vengeance who lost his opportunity in the end. S2 showed the kind of growth in his character that I was looking for and the slower pacing allowed his development to build out more organically. Einar was a strong complement to him, representing both the people that he slaughtered during his blind rage (his past) and the peaceful life that he started out seeking aimlessly (gaining experience through the work on the farm) and eventually chose as his path forward (founding a peaceful society in Vinland). I also love that, while Canute stood in stark contrast to the pacifistic life he was developing, his confrontation with him wasn't what solidified his path forward. Instead, it became a demonstration of his resolve, one so powerful that it moved a man who had done his best to eschew his humanity not to anguish or fear, but to laughter. He evoked a strong positive emotion from one who had forgotten what it was like to feel that in pursuit of power. It also helped that this season had some of the best single episodes of any anime I've seen in recent memory, particularly Oath and Way Home. So, yeah, big fan of S1, bigger fan of S2. Great video.

[@DecafisHere]

It’s so hard to pick which season I love more. One cannot exist without the other

[@mepollack]

@@DecafisHere True enough. That's part of the reason why I tend to rate whole series based on how much I liked their most recent season - everything else built up to that result. Truer of series like Vinland Saga and Mob Psycho 100 than most.

[@growtocycle6992]

@@DecafisHere which season is truly ground breaking, unique and potentially genre defining. Both seasons are great, but this to me makes one season superior to the other. 😉

[@Kriae]

"felt like it was following a shonen character through a seinin world" He was literally a shounen so that makes sense

[@ririnatheghost2154]

Thorfinn wasnt captured and sold to slavery, he was sentenced after harming royal blood. (Canute) sorry to be a nerd but i think this completely changes things. The person who took his goal, who was a guy who never was a warrior before being soft, showed him mercy and kept him living. Allowing a life were he wallows in his anguish. This is such good writing. Liked season 2 just wanted more combat, but it wasnt meant to be that way which i get.

[@benjaminhinz2552]

Did you just call Thor, Thorkell, Thorfinn and Askeladd "somewhat skilled fighters". Bro they are superhumans.

[@DecafisHere]

Yeah pretty much

[@dhgalaxy7428]

Yeah I’m pretty sure they’re considered like some of the best warriors of their time

[@oe_woo]

Vinland Saga has become my all time #1 favorite anime, absolute peak masterpiece

[@Kiiraku]

Vinland Saga is one of my favourite stories, I've ever had the pleasure of reading/watching. Thorfinn is such a wonderful character, everything he goes through and how he develops. I would gib him many'a kisses if he was real.

[@loganjk8990]

he is based on a real person but i vote against putting your mouth on that cadaver

[@Kiiraku]

@@loganjk8990 Oh I know he's based on the real Thorfinn Karlsefni. However I doubt there would be much to even kiss. However, if you dig him up, I'll give it a solid shot

[@tomimp601]

Great video! What make Vinland Saga pretty good, is the historical context, some fights are obviously exagerated, its anime after all, but many things that happen on screen is real. Life is unforgiving

[@ilhamadigunawan5264]

it's not even the fault of those people who abandon Vinland Saga because "it gets boring" or "Thorfinn became soft and weak". the glorification of violence in media since ever is the fault, even the Season 1. Sure from Season 1 it's still a commentary about violence is bad, but truth be told the violence there is pretty cool. Thorkell vs Thorfinn is cool, Thorfinn killing all the soldiers is cool, all the atrocities Askellad did is very scary, but Askellad himself is cool. so it's okay if people thinks S2 is bad because they abandon the violence, because we so used to violence being cool in media (movie, series, game, book, etc) so a full season of commentary about a person who went on violence rampage his whole life realizing his deeds is wrong and went searching for forgiveness is not everyone cup of tea. but man i love season 2. it's my personal opinion but Vinland Saga is my favorite media ever. it's kinda biased opinion, but that's what opinion is. it touches my heart and all the messages it trying to deliver resonate with me fully. i love all the character and the best part is everyone in this story felt like a real person, who you can talk to and have a conversation with. sorry for the long comment, but for those who still want to give S2 a chance and be open minded about it, i'm sure it'll be an experience you will never forget.

[@johnnielurker]

true cant wait for the next arc

[@Srbenda126]

Yes but unfortunately violence is sometimes the only answer. They shouldn't have turned Thorfinn into a full pacifist and a straight up wus, it would have been better if he would just try to refrain from unnecessary violence

[@ilhamadigunawan5264]

@@johnnielurker i really can't wait. A while ago, I decided to read the manga after the anime, but knowing S3 is coming, imma hold myself and wait for it. The anime has been a godsent.

[@ilhamadigunawan5264]

@@Srbenda126 i think that's the question for Thorfinn, depicted in him vs Snake. When Askeladd said something along the line of "which path leads to true warrior" it represents the notion of - is necessary violence exist or do Thorfinn need to go pacifist all the way. While i haven't read the manga, i can see that in the future his believe will be tested and he will be forced to use violence again as a mean to an end.

[@adityannair8951]

​@@ilhamadigunawan5264ur view are pretty narrow and childish if u think violence is bad And Vinland saga is whole pretty much goes childish after S2 With a unrealistic ideology that I have no enemies which is bad His development is good but ideology is of a 3 year old kid

[@tomimn2233]

One thing you should mention about the manga: It's *FUNNY.* It's half the time knee-slapping hilarious. But the funny part is where the humanity in Vinland Saga shines. It's in these moments that you see the endurance of these characters. That they still find humor and good vibes despite the harsh reality they're in.

[@hello-gx6oi]

Puffer thorfin 😭

[@velienne1319]

it's one of the reason why i find Vinland saga so similar to Vagabond. As close as the message could be, the humor brings humanity in both of those pieces

[@DecafisHere]

I know I am making a big statement by saying that "Vinland Saga is the Best" but hear me out and watch the full video. With that being said, what were your favorite parts of Vinland Saga?

[@lenanena5]

It is impossible to pick which is my favorite part of this anime. If i had to, I liked when Thorfinn smiled for the first time

[@DecafisHere]

@@lenanena5 No I agree with you. But Thorfinn smiling did make me cry a bit

[@rudra1286]

The 🤝

[@ulqiorracifer8026]

​@DecafisHere IDK man i love every part of it

[@Pathetic-Ali]

Thorfinn saying sorry and thank you to einar

[@akasa8jp]

All I can say is this. Farmland Saga = Peakland Saga. God story!!

[@kaylasouter6231]

You can't just put land of the lustrous ost in the background 🥲 while talking about one of my favorite stories ever. You tryna kill me?! Good video by the way 👍🏼

[@DecafisHere]

I am glad someone noticed my music choice! I love land of the lustrous 😁

[@kaylasouter6231]

@DecafisHere me too! I want a season 2 so bad, but at this point I should probably pick up the manga 😅

[@DecafisHere]

Honestly read the manga… season 2 won’t come out for a long time

[@ilhamadigunawan5264]

its a crime land of the lustrous this underated 😭

[@Infamous1892]

I started off loving Vinland Saga for the Badass fight scenes, but now I'm here for the story of Thorfinn. A True Warrior. This is a great story.

[@passiondono4692]

Tbh I don't have sympathy for the people that found season 2 boring to their own surprise, the seinen tag was there from the beginning, in fact that's how I found vinland saga in the first place, I did a filtered anime search specifically for seinen. The writing styles and creative liberties are different between seinen and shounen and thus I was never caught off guard.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Thorfinn lived off his hatred alone for Askeladd for so long, that when Askeladd died and his opportunity of revenge was robbed from him, Thorfinn in a way lost his purpose. He became an empty man. He at that point no longer had a reason to live. And his dreams show his internalize regret and PTSD he suffered in silence but now it's coming full circle in season 2. Thorfinn in season 1 pushed that down , but now he faces his PTSD and has no choice but to come confront it in season 2.

[@samantasusreeta]

very good video

[@hish33p32]

8:43 I'mma get this out of the way, being a hero has nothing to do with morality. A hero is someone who has a purpose greater than oneself. So when Thorfinn finally makes the decision to find Vinland, that is when he became a true hero (true warrior), same with Canute wanting to create paradise on earth, it makes him the villain to the perspective of those he prosecutes, but he's still a hero nonetheless no matter the morality of his actions.

[@DecafisHere]

I think I mispoke. I meant a hero as in a good person and villain as a bad person. His morals are not either. He isn’t a good person but not an awful’ person. His morals are constantly changing. Yes he is a protagonist but I guess he could be considered a flawed hero

[@hish33p32]

@@DecafisHere I didn't post the comment specifically to correct you though, it's more for the purpose of clarifying the idea between classifying characters as labels like Anti-Hero, Villain, Anti-Villain, etc. When in reality these definitions don't need to be overcomplicated when being a "Hero" is as simple and profound as having a greater purpose bigger than oneself

[@DecafisHere]

No worries. I didn’t think you were correcting me. I just didn’t clarify what I was saying

[@Lommyism]

@@hish33p32 The real meaning of hero from the Greek is protector or defender. Thorfinn is none of those things, in fact there is foreshadowing of this when he breaks the kid's arm. Heroism is everything to do with morality, the realisation that slavery is immoral, war is immoral, and creating a safe space for those like Arnheid is the right, heroic, thing to do. Canute is the opposite, and follows the opposite trajectory, he starts off as the pacifist and in his desire to help others ultimately becomes the thing that causes so much pain and grief.

[@hish33p32]

@@Lommyism Well it's just my opinion atleast, because I've seen videos in philosophy defining "Hero" as the person in a story generally the protagonist having a purpose being greater than themselves, take Eren for example, similar to Canute, objectively both of them are villains, but if seen from their perspective in which, they're this morally grey character where their ultimate intentions are for a better future, this grand goal of theirs can be seen as heroic depending on which side you agree upon, despite their hypocrisy though I'd also rather be a greater evil if it meant defeating evil like the quote "Fight fire with fire", in the way i see it, The routes these utilitarianists take are the riskier methods but are more likely to produce results where as someone like Thorfinn, Deku, Naruto or any other deontological protagonist, i see their methods as "playing it safe" and can even be called masochism at times like how some other ethnicities call japanese people masochists for always blaming themselves when their righteousness fails to produce the results they want.

[@frewtlewps1152]

The pacing of the second season’s episodes had this magical quality to them. Whenever an episode was finished I wasn’t demanded to move on to the next one, it felt like waking up from a dream.

[@mathieudoucet1446]

Because it was so boring that you actually sleep on it...

[@GuitarRocksex]

@@mathieudoucet1446 damn we got mr. violence from season 1 over here

[@theakiwar9118]

@@mathieudoucet1446You don’t get it do you?

[@iiTzKaran_YT]

Vinland is not for you ​@@mathieudoucet1446

[@canonogic]

I hope one day Berserk gets this treatment, what I would do to see The Lost Children arc get animated

[@muhtasimmahin5057]

vinland saga should be best anime of the year 2023

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

I also think Einar helps Thorfinn to live and change. Einar is the only friend Thorfinn has ever had in his life . Their friendship is so deep that they are like brothers to eachother. Brotherhood.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Hopefully we get a season 3&4 of Vinland Saga ! 😭

[@paulrenton824]

Vinland saga is soup for the soul. Something our modern society needs to incorporate in their diet

[@antviper135]

Yup! I was calling it during Season 1. That half of the anime only people would not like the Farmland arc

[@Modeloman8]

Thorfin learned talk no jutsu in season 2. Im suprised they made this season end that way. I was so ready for thorfin to kill 100 warrirors. But it ended more shocking then i could've imagined. I was just really into thorfins charachter growth and einars influence. It was some how great to watch. If you like season 2, you left watching the show feeling like more of a man.

[@96Tapatio96]

Bro that scene of Arnheid’s husband reuniting with his son actually killed me emotionally

[@chesaramadhan6599]

I have read the manga....Man...the character development is top notch compared to other manga. I hope they continue the Anime

[@matthiashomm2915]

The music man 🤌🏻🙌

[@tanvu2728]

To be fair.... ALL that vinland proves is.... Modern anime/manga lost its touch, they just can't come up with deep genuine writing as much as they did in the past cause VINLAND came out in 2005 (manga), but its just SLOW to get an anime. in fact, the anime after 2 seasons, is already 8 years worth of the manga AKA end of S2 was where the manga is in 2013. And one thing I noticed is any manga from pre-2010s or even 2000s are good, but newer ones are rarely on the same level. Which is why for many years I argued that post-2010s anime tends to lose its touch lately across the board, focusing too much on animation and foreigner expectations rather than what anime and manga really known for.

[@QuackCow144]

while waiting for the episodes after the first 12 to get dubbed, I have watched the first 12 3 times because it is so awesome

[@merchantmocha4665]

sub is as good if not better it has way more emotion and fits the characters more

[@QuackCow144]

@@merchantmocha4665 don't know about all that. have you seen the netflix dub

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Vinland Saga looks to see if we can find alternative to conflict, instead of having killing to be specific, be the solution to every conflict.

[@frostedhams]

I thought season 2 was boring.

[@orangedidierhungley8456]

What's the song at 6:00

[@markjackson3227]

When you said “somewhat skilled fighters” I was like what lol you mean literal god tier warriors

[@Suki-xu9xs]

What was the background music for this video?

[@harveybaldry1969]

6:11 working on who's farm? Lol

[@Dia-Sabah]

Good video

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Also in the latter half of epsiode 4 of Vinland Saga, was very powerful, deep and heart wrenching. Seeing both characters affected by war and violence but in different ways and different circumstances collide . I think Thorfinn being confronted by his past was very important and having Einar there is internal. Einar ultimately forgives Thorfinn and reminds him that we are alive because someone kept us alive, and that Thorfinn shouldn't throw his life away so carelessly, no matter the hardships. Because despite the suffering and brutality the world brings, there is beauty to be found in living . In Einar's own way, I think he was trying to tell Thorfinn he deserves to live , despite his past mistakes and sins . This in a way inspires Thorfinn to try and get to Vinland to create a place without the threat of violence or slavery .

[@matthewlasalvia7026]

Vinland Saga is one of the best gateway anime in years. So many anime fall into common tropes that have come to define the medium as a whole, but Vinland Saga is like the anime equivalent of a historical drama like Lawrence of Arabia or Seven Samurai. The anime is full great storytelling, dialogue, and acting in both sub and dub.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Also I never thought Thorfinn was necessarily being selfish in season 2, selfish wouldn't be the word I'd use. I feel in the beginning he was drowning with his guilt without doing anything about it. By the end of season 2 Thorfinn works towards atonement. And hopefully if we get a season 3&4 , we will see the full lengths Thorfinn goses to, to try and atone.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

What makes Vinland Saga so compelling is seeing a character, who's trying to go a different path to only fight to protect and use self defense without killing anyone . Trying to create instead of destroying. The world Thorfinn resides in is consumed by violence and romanrizes violence . It's glorified . He tries to atone and become a better man. An interesting juxtaposition from a brutal viking in the past, to a more kind and compassionate protagonist. He learns of truth and seeks to create a place without the threat of violence or slavery. The point of Vinland Saga is to get to Vinland and to create . But it's not easy . Thorfinn gets more scars when he dosen't kill, but he still hopes to find another alternative than to kill. People still die in this world . Which makes Thorfinn's journey very difficult . The point isn't to save the world from all violence, it's trying to battle with the idea of violence and living a different way than what is expected of you in viking society. Thorfinn dosen't want to hurt anyone or have others suffer as he did . That's why Thorfinn tries so hard not to kill. He uses the skills he learned from war , as a means to incompasiate one's who direct violence at him or those around him without killing . To save a live and to defend his own life.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Because he let his vengeance and haterd consume him, he never was able to move forward, never able to grow , never able to change . That's why Thorfinn's growth and change in season 2 is so powerful.

[@Barbari0]

Seeing subtitle saying villian saga is absolutely great

[@O.Reagano]

4:50 the key word is “blinded by the rage” I hate to tell you but that’s four words 😅

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Thorfinn in episode 10 in the beginning states he wants to try and create a place without the threat of slavery or violence. To create a peaceful nation.And towards the end of season 2 , Thorfinn takes many blows to the face in order to see Canute to stop any more bloodshed or Inoccences from dying . Thorfinn is making those steps towards atonement in season 2 but it's only the beginning for Thorfinn's journey of atonement. Plus we still got plenty of material to cover in the Manga of Vinland Saga.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Vinland Saga season 2 hits that much deeper because of how real it all feels. There's meaningful weight to everything that happens . Every character matters and contributes to the story in a very impactful way.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

I feel that episode 4 also added alot of depth and complexity to Einar's character. When Einar tries to choke Thorfinn, in a blinded rage , he eventually stops himself when hearing Thorfinn scream and cry in his sleep. This felt every real and realistic. I can't explain it well. But most of the characters in Vinland Saga feel like real people and act like real people. Idk if what I'm saying makes sense but yeah.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

The dead still torment Thorfinn . And his anger tries to tempt him , because that is all he knows, but he fights against his urges to rise above it . He lives with this everyday of his life. A weight he must carry and bare.

[@devinport.]

It's a character study just like vagbond

[@DecafisHere]

Nice pfp! And yes I agree

[@Piratesaregay12322]

He wasnt captured, he was exiled into slavery for attacking Canut.

[@lukie1024]

A seemingly insignificant battle on a random farm with overwhelming differences in strength. The king of both England and Denmark against some vassals and farm workers. Yet it becomes the most significant turning point in this worlds history and future.

[@thetwelfth9987]

Watching Thorfinn admit to himself and Einar that the thing that’d kept him alive all those years was not his will to survive, not his desire to go home, not even the memories of his father, but his raw VITRIOL for Askeladd was for me the most shocking moment in the whole two seasons. It takes some massive introspection and humility to admit out loud that you’ve basically thrown your life away being an evil person, yet choosing to live to make things right, *despite* it being practically impossible. I’ve never seen an anime character take such a drastic 180 and still feel like a genuine human being, I’m nothing short of inspired by Vinland Saga.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

My personal opinion, Thorfinn was never weak. He was just a slave to his vengeance and resentment. He not only hurt himself but others and Inoccences for selfish reasons. It's easy to destory . It's alot harder to protect and create .

[@MrXaniss]

you just casually get half of the names wrong

[@kash4307]

different tastes, different people.. i honestly didnt like s2 that much, it felt like a switch and bait from season 1 where it was super hype and it slowed down suddenly, some people appreciate the slow and beautiful story telling, and some are disappointed because they were expecting more of what they saw originally.. the problem was that people were fighting to prove each other wrong, cursing each other and calling it bad tastes, when in reality its not for everyone. respect people's opinions and they'll give respect back.. you don't like it? its completely fine, wish you good luck finding an anime you like.. you like it? thats also fine. i've seen so many detailed criticism that people give and fans deny it by saying "grow up shounen kid", literally honest opinions go down the drain. thats the problem with most communities, and many people have got to realize that

[@sowavyryan]

season 2 was goatedd fr

[@BobbyDaDan]

Most of the same people who hate AOT's ending also hate Vinland Saga S2.

[@DecafisHere]

There is weird trend for people hating on those anime lmao

[@BobbyDaDan]

@@DecafisHere contrarianism has become fashionable IMO. But hey, no g*ns to the head, I guess. Great video btw

[@annie-sc]

Idk man, but I think the AoT ending hate came from *some delusional Jaegerists* who were so immersed with the idea of revenge, but got so disappointed to see Eren "acting like a p***y" at the end, even calling him a simp. 😂 i feel like this is the same type of people who would hate VS S2. They radiate that exact same behavior.

[@cokecan6169]

​@@annie-scI read the manga way before and was disappointed with how fast the ending felt. It was rushed, and I don't think Eren really resolved his inner conflict or ever moved past the person he became. Similar with how demon slayer ended (no spoiler). I want characters to continue growing even up till the end of a story, usually by coming to terms with self sacrifice. My preferred ending for Eren would probably have been if he decided of his own accord to halt the rumbling and retracted all titan powers into himself before crystallizing, falling asleep for all eternity and becoming a sort of forgotten monument to humanity's survival until the end of days. His friends would come to see him now and then until they left, and then millennium would pass and civilizations would rise and fall until one day, humanity simply did not exist on Earth anymore. Then Eren would awake from his slumber and walk the Earth one last time before crumbling to ashes, since he had long passed his 13 year limit while sealed away.

[@cokecan6169]

At the end of AOT, it felt like Armin and Mikasa were the only ones that really grew, Eren was still trapped in his past and never escaped. Spoiler if you haven't read demon slayer manga I was disappointed with the ending there as well because Tanjiro ultimately could not adhere to his philosophy of love and kindness. Before, the entire story followed the idea of "monsters exist and they're horrible, but they suffer as well, so I will still feel sorry for them" but the ending turned into "well I guess some monsters are irredeemably evil so fuck them?" Ideally Tanjiro would have looked into Muzen's soul while they were combined and realized the depth of hurt and loneliness he felt, and perhaps taken his own life while promising his greatest enemy to stay by his side, showing the ultimate love and forgiveness and cementing his character as a true light in the darkness. People would mourn, and his legacy would be golden. Plus side is we could still do the reincarnation chapter with this. But the ending turned out to be "at the end of the day, Tanjiro is still only human." This means his character growth is incredibly tiny, almost non existent, because he was kind from the very start. The only thing he learned as a human soul throughout the entire story was that some people aren't worth crying for.

[@JAI_SHREE_RAM12337]

Finally a land of the lustrious fan

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Vinland Saga is the reason why I love Anime. Season 2 of Vinland Saga is my favorite, so much so , I gave it a 10/10. I haven't felt this strongly about Anime in awhile. Vinland Saga is a deep and thought provoking peice about rebirth and one's relationship to violence. Why are we drawn to violence?

[@unknowngamer1982]

Vinland Saga is true literature. It transcends the medium.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Thorfinn I believe also hates himself for what be done in the past. He battles with self loathing . So much so he wants to die. Yet his body wants to live .

[@benjamindavis2475]

I love talking about the show. The first 3 minute recap of this video could have been skipped though to make the video more focused. We've already seen the show so the recap was unnecessary

What's up with these small youtubers talkimg about epic animes or stuff with high level video quality getting promoted by KZbin? Not that I'm complaining, but it's like the 3rd video today xD

[@DecafisHere]

I like putting effort into my videos 😄

[@klaxocuchulainn2554]

I love this show

[@CrispySenpai]

Vinland Saga really is in a league of its own. The only big disappointment is Thorfins naive solution to just run away from all the bad things in the world. I really hope that he quickly learns that this is not a real solution, even if he builds a nation there will be evil there too, because human beings can’t help but bring evil with them no matter where they go.

[@daehyun2904]

Read manga up to the latest chapters. He is for sure going to know about the cons of running away from violence. He will do something complete unexpected when running away can't be the answer anymore. Really looking forward to Season 3 anime!

[@CrispySenpai]

@@daehyun2904 if this is true I am looking forward to it! As it stands I’m more interested in Canute’s pursuit and story than Thorfins

[@daehyun2904]

@@CrispySenpai Thorfinn is going to become extremely badass don't you worry.

[@adityannair8951]

​@@daehyun2904being badass i have no problem Instead be a realistic guy Thorfinn after S2 is just a typical dumb mc who have fantastis he can create a world with talk which is bullshit

[@qsoraww5229]

Vinland is a true masterpiece

[@coldeed]

10:00 Something to think about. Animals are selfish. A wolf finds whatever is weak and feeds on it, simply as it is hungry. It does not care for justice, fairness, kindness or any sense of morality man understands. It does not have thoughts of the future, it acts on instinct naturally moving for nothing but its own benefit. By our standards, this is the making of an evil man. Now I present to you the rabbit. While it is weak, harmless and inconsequential, how does it compare? It too seeks out whatever is weak to sate its hunger, and also care little for anything but it's own benefit. It's thinking is just as simple, just as selfish. Weakness isn't kindness. Man is far more capable of being a menace than either of these. The sins of being too hard are not fixed by becoming too soft. In this story these are simply two immature steps in a young mans life. Both are build on naïve self interest natural to all living things. This is not something to criticize, it simply displayed the difficulty of maturing a complex mind to hold valuable skills, good judgement, and hopefully in the future well practiced virtues. Too much apathy makes a monster, to much compassion a victim. There are significantly better things for a man to be.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Vinland Saga is one of the best Anime to come out in this era. In my opinion

[@DecafisHere]

I agree!!!

[@learthasanaj1635]

i love thorfinn

[@ThumbSipper]

As a life long fan, my joy of seeing so many people gushing over VS is only matched by my irritation over seemingly no one being able to pronounce the character names, not like the characters themselves aren't constantly screaming each other's names in the show 😆 I love you man, I really do, but for future reference: Einar is pronounced HEY-NAR, Askeladd is pronounced ASH-HE-LADD.

[@DecafisHere]

Yeah, I do apologize for that. I never knew that is how you pronounce those names. Especially Askeladd

[@joshuabrito6384]

I wont lie i didnt like reading it season 2 of vinland saga but its much more watchable animated

[@appleboss9742]

I have no enemies

[@PiyushDas06]

I find s1 more slow than s2 😂.

[@DecafisHere]

Fax

[@gmsinlandempire2246]

Yeah they’re are haters out there in the first three weeks .. saying Vinland saga is trash 🤦🏾‍♂️!! Where they at now???

[@michaelkrakauer7879]

Clickbait title! I thought Kotlin was the best language to use when developing for Android before watching season 2 of Vinland Saga. After watching it I still think it is so I wasn't wrong about EVERYTHING. cynicism over. Loved the manga, love the anime. Vinland Saga has become one of my favorite stories, It really resonates with me and Thorfinn is a great character.

[@TurdBoi-tf5lf]

I use flutter and so dart is my choice

[@sam.r8610]

If someone hate this anime than they need to grow up .

[@DecafisHere]

FR 🙏

[@digitalmico3477]

Air gear Vid?

[@DecafisHere]

OH, I love air gear

[@MarkoLomovic]

@@DecafisHere I'm still salty about not having season 2, still listen music from that show today lol

[@DecafisHere]

@@MarkoLomovic I love the manga! I’m collecting some volumes lmao

[@MarkoLomovic]

@@DecafisHere I'm still on copium I refuse to read manga yet, waiting for dark days...

[@DecafisHere]

@@MarkoLomovic understandable 🫡🫡

[@gerdanbombales]

Ngl Even it was great I didnt like S1 because I cant stand Edgy Thorfinn, but S2 is a masterpiece. Easy AOTY.

[@adityannair8951]

But in the end that S2 thorfinn more dumb and childish his ideology is generic like most shonen mc

[@danteT]

​@@adityannair8951 childish!? You are dumb or pretending to be dumb

[@johnwhiteX]

I started watching Vinland because I wanted an exciting Viking anime and season 1 delivered on that, season 2 did not. I can recognize everything you’re saying about how masterful done season 2 is but it’s just not for me. Too slow, not enough interesting characters, too preachy. Oddly my favorite episode was the last one, it has fun energy that was lacking from the entire season

[@ImRon2k]

season 2 is better than season 1 imo

[@RumHutProductions]

Askeladd was the best character by far, I enjoyed the second season way less. I hate being preached to a the whole season just seemed like a lesson and way too on the nose. Still a good show.

[@whyoowhy]

Honestly, it is the best single season of anime I've ever watched

[@user-ik8ol3mc4d]

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[@h00ligan71]

Season 2 was boring, bit it was good boredom. I finished Season 2 yesterday, and it was a great adventure.

[@sam.r8610]

How old r u bro I think u r kid 😂

[@h00ligan71]

@@sam.r8610 ?

[@jordanasumani]

finally and i didn't understand some of this stupid youtuber who don't do their research saying that season 2 will fail when the rating is so good like bro they were not doing their research.

[@foregroundeclipse8725]

Thorfinn is simply a flawed human . And is slowly becoming a better man . In reality, there isn't a good vs evil. It's more complicated and morally grey.

[@Kriae]

Based on the thumbnail, I expected this video to be about the fact that the turning point shounen action junkies were mocking for years ended up beloved by most people. Also, instead of having yet another one-sided tirade about isekai at the start of your video, you could have compared the success of Vinland Saga 2 to the likes of Chainsaw Man, Jujutsu Kaisen, or Kimetsu no Yaiba. Unfortunately, you thought that looking for the most random stuff on NovelUpdates to prove your refreshing take would be a good idea.

[@DecafisHere]

I could have compared Vinland Saga to those series. But I like making fun of the Isekai genre. I knew it would get under someone’s skin 💀

[@SuperBadadan]

Good thing Season 3 will go on to show you Thorfinn truly has become soft and weak.

[@iamzeubermensch917]

It's just peak

[@taosifrahmantummin4724]

Man u gotta watch Gintama. Take my advice and thank me later

[@DecafisHere]

I love gintama

[@Jack-Bireley]

Peak

[@OGbornsinnerz]

Despite the memes “I have no enemies” is deep when u live a life of a scumbag

[@jxnuary81]

I’m sorry but please stop pronouncing einar like that, you act like you haven’t watched an episode and see just reading off a script someone else wrote

[@DecafisHere]

Huh? Einar can be pronounced like “I-Nar”

[@neurion58]

Peakland saga

[@HeyWo_YT]

All I see is people telling me that I don't understand but I understand, I just heavily dislike season 2 for how they went about showing Thorfin's progress throw the story and think they could have gone a better way about that had action/things I liked about the first season. I think three good anime that can help a person understand what I'm talking about are, 86, Food Wars, Legend of the Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These. These anime all can show to a way of looking at how battles and people work to how a fight can be a language in it's self. BTW I do think season is good but I just heavily dislike season 2 and think people don't know how season 1 was made and tells a character.