Labour Ministers Squirm Over Arms Sales To Israel and Spying on Gaza

[@zerothehero2579]

Complicit war criminals - plain and simple.

[@MrBoDiggety]

They don't care. They just don't care. What are you or anybody else gonna do about it? Maybe I'm just a pessimist but I think that's exactly what they say when they leave this 'hearing'.

[@not_mybrother7705]

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[@KyleJames2580]

​@@MrBoDiggety​You are right, my friend, but dont despair

[@user-dave56]

@@not_mybrother7705 War Criminals enabling the Genocide to continue. Pure and simple.

[@siewjooransom946]

Why are we taking instructions from the USA? Are we not a sovereign state??

[@kevinlaing8712]

The banality of bureaucratic barbarity in a suit on full display.

[@todaysevents7503]

Banality of evil

[@mididoctors]

They looked baffled . Never occurred to them they would be asked this

[@NeilMelling-pw6ts]

good description

Shocking lies and hypocrisy disgraceful complicity

[@annenunney9907]

Absolutely spot on

[@lawts1240]

Disgusting, lies from the mouths from criminals. Trying to gaslight the public.

[@lawts1240]

We’re also run by AIPAC

[@Omarsenior]

Exactly 💯

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

Complicity is one thing. This is shared perpetration.

[@Aurelia-128]

Their waffle makes no sense. Openly lying, deflecting, being defensive are all signs of guilt and active participation in war crimes. They have no empathy for Palestinian life.

[@revn9203]

💯

[@tinkbig4994]

When one is placed on the list they'll stop

[@masterfok636]

Waffle to obfuscate is all the can do when they are actively supporting the genocide of Gaza.

[@FrogmortonHotchkiss]

The mundanity of evil

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎D3ath to Jews chants - Nazi ▪︎D3ath to Arabs chants - Not Nazi?

[@johnomalley760]

When it comes to Israel, the UK official position of seeing no evil, hearing no evil and speaking no evil is not tenable. The UK, like the US, sings a completely different tune for everyone else. We should expect all counties to follow international law and not to attack their neighbors or to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing.

[@revn9203]

The uk has lost its sovereignty. They are subservient to big brother the us.

[@KyleJames2580]

All those mentioned above are intertwined in history, in politics and economy. These houses will fall, if good people stand up and fight.

[@NaeemullahX]

They have sponsored this Genocide

[@alan.richard]

"Israel thinks it owns our foreign office - and it does" - Alan Duncan ex Foreign secretary.

[@angelawoods7328]

Hypocritical. Just full of crap!!

[@Ree-m5p]

NOT GOOD ENOUGH. We need to hold these people accountable they disgust me.

[@KevinMckeon-b1v]

What a liar the Labour minister is to claim to be moved by the suffering in.Gaza. He couldn't care less.

[@neil5877]

The Conservatives would have done exactly the same thing Israel has full control of politicians through donations gifts and some being zionist themselves.

[@Britishrailwaystories]

“No questions on behaviour or conduct” - extraordinary. This will go down in the history books as a dark day for, in particular, the RAF, who are being made complicit by government. Astonishing.

[@N0R3M4C]

Incredible too that the former president of Israel said that Queen Elizabeth saw Israelis as 'terrorists'. Even Charles in a leaked letter in 1986 said “Surely some US president has to have the courage to stand up and take on the Jewish lobby in the US? I must be naive, I suppose!”. Makes you think.

[@brianwheeldon4643]

The RAF has a responsibilty to not follow politicians who are war criminals.

[@Warrior_warlock]

​@brianwheeldon4643 exactly, none of these pilots are innocent.

[@SaveEarthPlsBeKind]

​@@Warrior_warlock👍

[@HD-qh6ku]

I wouldn't frame it as the RAF are completely innocent. Do you really think that likes of Starmer, Johnson, Cameron or Sunak made any military decisions? RAF command and MoD are the ones who say what is possible, who plan the availability and possibility for these things to happen. The RAF isn't innocent.

[@Undisputed_King]

Politicians are gangsters

[@NSGca]

They make the Mafia look like Choir boys!

[@slartibartfast7921]

This is not a lie.

[@NSGca]

@@Undisputed_King These guys make the Mafia look like choir boys...

[@Omarsenior]

100%

[@Delinquent-Minds]

Gangsters in suits

[@bayzidahammed8614]

« If I were a Palestinian living under Israeli occupation, I would fight Israel to achieve freedom » ~ Amy Ayalon, former head of the Israeli General Security Service (Shin Bet)

[@Crunt321]

With you 😎👍🇵🇸

[@christinadreis5557]

Me too. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@arsenalmanic]

there is not such thing as iznotreally. it's OCCUPIED PALESTINE

[@alan.richard]

Yes, it is their legal right. As our government constantly . . . err . . . seems to forget. They do remember the phrase: Israel has the right to def . . .you know the rest.

[@MOG-f2r]

ME 3

[@mytrahana]

Intersting watching grown men in suits trying to justify murder.

[@annenunney9907]

This is a disgrace their is no way we need to be doing what is being done and the Horrors he is talking about are still there

[@shsh-he5qg]

Sadly the uk was long taken over by the small hats without most baboons in society even realising !

[@joananthony6323]

They are talking as if they're just administrative functionaries just answering questions about logistics rather than behaviour and humanity

[@noramartin96]

You cannot expect paid robots to have any degree of humanity .

[@deboraandrade132]

EXACTLY. BANALITY OF EVIL

[@revn9203]

They will carry on with oblivion their daily pen pushing and paper filing while the whole time humans are being klled as a result of their actions and inactions.

[@AnEnemy100]

Yep. Clear reference to Eichman.

[@Sundancer09]

Profit before people - especially when those people aren't European.

[@griseldaholmes3280]

Great reporting UK Declassified

[@pilsortangle]

What a total waste of time and money that was! The military industrial complex is untouchable. It’s just business you understand.

[@NSGca]

As an American, I had to laugh/cry at some of these answers. I call it BS. Word salad doesn't absolve these idiotic men. I chose to call them liars.

[@TheNagualWilliam]

As an American you should be demanding a criminal investigation into 9/11......how do you demolish 3 towers with two CGI planes? Ask Nutty 9/11 Yahu! And now the demons who run the US claim Al Qaeda are the good guys. Isn't that a problem for Americans who were told for the last twenty odd years ago that Al Qaeda demolished the triple towers on 9 11!!

[@angelawilliamson6765]

In Scotland we like to call them bare faced liers, they all totally disgust me.

[@todaysevents7503]

@@angelawilliamson6765❤ Scotland is full of good souls

[@dougoneill7266]

The US are not innocent bystanders in this, historically or now.

[@catherinehalligan-jolly396]

Biden is so much worse

[@Perspectiveon]

Franticly searching for a non-existing excuse to justify non-compliance and obfuscating perfectly clear Humanitarian Law. It's pathetic and painful to watch.

[@daveyjuice7710]

Detestable acts requires detestable little helpers

[@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings]

Mind Begs the Question: ▪︎Who are Axis of Evil ▪︎Those who oppose Apartheid State ▪︎Those who support Apartheid State?

[@moviemakerjo6756]

🎯🍉

[@moviemakerjo6756]

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[@solsdadio]

That was truly disturbing to watch. Even they looked uncomfortable with their responses.

[@revn9203]

Indeed, these government reps keep shifting in their chairs, looking puzzled, bewildered and looking really guilty.

[@meetontheledge1380]

Mossad has the vids on all of them.

[@Beenz999]

The main guy didn't look particularly uncomfortable. He just looked like he was trying very hard to find the correct words to obscure what was being done

[@clairesalem8262]

They will look more uncomfortable I believe in front of our Creator on the day of judgement when word salads don't work any more to hide or for excusing their behaviour.

[@Mistic-b5d]

This is terrible for me this evidence should make us stop arms sales

[@lw1zfog]

‘all wars are bankers wars’ - Michael Rivero

[@meetontheledge1380]

@lw1zfog And all the multigenerational, inbred, banking crime families (which have demonstrably selected for sociopathy) have a common ''root''. It goes back to Babylon. Slaves in Babylon, they learned well.

[@jayneyaghmour7320]

Shameful

[@philippacasey4480]

They were only looking for hostages, my big fat arse!!!!

[@jimmyhay47]

How would they know they were looking at hostages?

[@Boujois23]

What about the hostages being held by Israel ? 1,000 ‘s of Palestinians … never been flying over with the spy planes to help there

[@0z0pk]

How sure are they those bombardment haven't found them first.

[@vlogoftea]

Someone's gonna have to explain to me how imperial war planes deliver peace and security anywhere, and how even if that is the case that trumps our obligation under international law to prevent the crime of genocide.

[@aidanmacdougall9250]

Or that spy planes flying at 40,000ft of the coast can find hostages in tunnels deep underground! No wonder they haven't found any in a year! And at what cost!?....

[@dianezblackdatoo7632]

Money and power and political adherence. Is more important to this English Govt than humanity

[@MichelleThresher]

I am still reeling from my shock at hearing the content of this video!....The whole F35 program should be analysed and changed to ensure we can take full responsibility of the part we play in what happens at the other end.....I just don't think its acceptable we are tied to the US in their procedures. This to me is news that should be on MSM but as usual its only ever online. Thanks to all these independent media outlets for the due diligence in showing us the facts and real news 👏 Free Palestine 🇵🇸

[@keithfallinghorse6732]

He practicaly said " peace is war", right of rhe bat.

[@annenunney9907]

Agree

[@Inventio13]

Doublespeak

[@clairesalem8262]

The moron said an oxymoron

[@jamm8284]

So the UK government doesn't even know what military components are being made in their own country and who gets what components? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@PeterMurphyceltic]

That's exactly my point amigo!! I don't believe it for a sec!! My motorbike has part numbers n VIN and how many kms or hours in service before maintenance or replacing parts

[@PeterMurphyceltic]

These engines parts etc used in military aircraft have a shorter service life n have to be factory checked!!

[@bullah56]

Don't they all lo so sorry for the people of Gaza, while feeding their pockets on the blood of the Palestinians.

[@decolonizeEverywhere]

Wow! These guys are so disconnected from reality in Boots on the ground that they don't realize how ridiculous this conversation is just for existing. They are out loud having a conversation discussing whether or not they are going to take taxpayer dollars and use them to assist a criminal entity committing crimes that they are currently wanted for an international courts with arrest warrants. Just the idea that they can have this conversation out loud and in the public forum and it's an actual governmental process just makes my mind explode. WTAF!

[@andrewwalsh2755]

It's a bit rich a Labour MP asking these guys ( frankly pointless) questions... ... she should be asking Starmer why he is complicit in genocide...

[@Jeff-q4u]

It never ceases to amaze me how banal and indifferent manufacturers sound when they are talking about their business interests, even when their business is mass slaughter. 🕊🕊🕊🌹

[@RayonMuirhead]

How can they locate and pinpoint hostages among civilians from a plane ...lies lies lies

[@philmckay9973]

lord coaker....is acting like a CEO saying i just sign pieces of paper....

[@ryanm7097]

Did somebody say CEO?🤔🔫

[@HenriqueDeSousa]

Watch out CEOs of this world!

[@concon83]

Sickening

[@briancunning423]

Look at them sweating nervously as they trot out meaningless excuses.

[@cheesecakechamp7800]

How do these politicians sleep at night?

[@tonyjohnmcmullen]

The formality. And, unhurriedly behaviour.. whilst kids are dying..

[@JasonKing-m6m]

Sure, as long as the most important thing is not jeopardized.. Profits....

[@alexthewormking5913]

"F35's defend our freedom..." 😂😂😂

[@JasonKing-m6m]

Which army has come or is coming to invade the UK that it's freedom needs to be "protected"?

[@HenriqueDeSousa]

F35s have the right to defend themselves

[@ElbeEverson-w2e]

“Humanitarian law is at quite a different threshold than some people might imagine” ..and in what way does Gaza does not meet that threshold?

[@andrewvallely9174]

Convenient timing with the bell !! Just as they were scrambling for answers too 🤦

[@noramartin96]

Saved by the bell! Wow!

[@EvilZ2009]

It is simply fascinating, just fascinating to hear someone who basically say that selling weapons does not get tracked once it reaches the United States... Well yes, its is a horrible what is happening and yes there is a lot of bad things but it doesn't meant its criminal.... saying that with dead eyes.... showing what sort of individual we are dealing with... a few people needs to get sacked and then brought to court for criminal behaviour...

[@blackwavenoise]

We'd lose money to help innocent people.. F'ing joke!

[@BR-qf3wq]

UK politicians defending their freedom, really and full of BS

[@carcav13]

Who owns the UK?

[@MichelleNewit-xd1nl]

Izrehell😊

[@NSGca]

As my dear friend above me said, Is-it-hell almost sounds like Israel, doesn't it?

[@chezceleste]

Israel and they got it very cheap...a few baubles, some holidays and tickets to some lousy concerts and they gave the country away.

[@tariqmanchester]

CFI and LFI

[@Alan_Stinchcombe]

No end user licenses?

[@Gauw-f2e]

Watching these plgs is painful

[@explorer0213]

Pigs?? If I said what they really are yt would take it down.

[@carolberry2239]

Why is this only being debated now?

[@0z0pk]

There's no after plan after all Gazans are gone, except to allow trupe to build cassino, high rise condos on strip.

[@moldymush]

Disgusting

[@ABH565]

They keep mumbling when answering. Like a criminal caught on the act.

[@Omarsenior]

Shame

[@archer159]

This little lot and what they're saying is precisely why we shouldn't be coseying-up to the US govt and their shenanigans. They wanted us into Vietnam, but Wilson wisely kept us out. Steer-clear, stay-away and don't trust them. Also, be aware recent UK govts have got us ever closer to Israel in numerous ways. Stating the obvious that this isn't good.

[@explorer0213]

There up to their necks with" friends of israel" pockets full of money it's so disgusting.

[@tariqmanchester]

LFI and before that CFI. Three (six) letters explain it all. Shame.

[@alfmycat]

This was the same with the Tory government, its not just a Labor thing. Our governments are run by oligarchs it seems.

[@ahmedmessari8441]

As long as they get there big pay they don’t give a monkeys

[@JessieJussMessy]

Filibustering nonsense

[@ashleyKennedy5]

I'm nearly 70 and haven't watched TV for 35 years. Does anyone rely on TV for news anymore?

[@Okimleileiinnit]

If I’m being honest most pple watch the news just to know what’s going on not because we agree what they’re saying about these stories

[@Gio.761]

I don’t

[@jorgemanueldossantosfreita3633]

I stopped some time ago….

[@Ged-v8i]

65 ,no way ... never...

[@aberserk9512]

Not since 2003, when I got internet installed at home.

[@pg-ko6ph]

The programme to make dirty money

[@helenjarvis7755]

That money is soaked in the blood of innocents

[@petermcculloch4933]

So typical of the public service."Its not my job to help a blind person cross a busy road" or "throw a piece of my sandwich to a starving dog".

[@AL-lz1hb]

Maybe workers should unilaterally ensure the parts are not made and or, they can't leave the country? These parts wouldn't be the first objects to get stuck trying to leave or enter the country? If the people don't want to be complicit in a Genocide, perhaps it's the people who have to act? It shouldn't be necessary, but clearly our Govt are stuck and need our help.

[@projectcyclingfitness1160]

Or the workers could easily incorporate minor defects in the parts, skew the quality checks, or anything that may render them useless when it comes to the final operation stage.

[@AL-lz1hb]

@@projectcyclingfitness1160 That's very sneaky! Tut.

[@keithadams1538]

Kafkaesque government

[@nevg2067]

It's all theatre for the public to pretend they are overseeing it, when nothing will be done.

[@LayLoow]

How do these people sleep at night is beyond me, I wouldn’t wanna hurt a fly but these goons are on another level 😢

[@nqa5448]

What exactly is the point of these committees? No one will be held accountable and these inhumane ppl are deciding who lives or dies!

[@cjeffrey8713]

Tanmanjeet Singh Desi and Liam 'no money left' Byrne are both raging right wingers within the Labour Party. If Labour ever allowed any of its (very few) principled and well-informed MPs onto these committees (it never happens) the ministers and MoD would be squirming a whole lot more bc the questioning would be tougher. Good to see them put on the spot nonetheless. Let's hope the legal challenge by GLAN and Al Haq ends the export of F-35 parts to Israel, finally.

[@on2a]

Agree that these questions were not nearly challenging enough

[@saunleecoetzee9170]

Labour is dead. Time for a new progressive left party.

[@zahirmulla6715]

Israel has always known where the hostages are

[@HenriqueDeSousa]

Some hundreds were killed by the IOF on the exact 7th October

[@sunrayisdown1690]

What a bunch of liars

[@OllytheOl]

We were just doing our jobs...

[@tinkerbell1120]

Omg....these people are sadists!! Vote them all out!

[@SimonLee-y1j]

Saved by the Bell indeed.

[@clivesmith9377]

Guilty of supporting and aiding genocide.

[@mikerobinson3695]

More than a Picture......................they are Palestinian Lives

[@renewoods]

Shame on this Government.

[@gerardsoppe]

A contract with a company is more important than International Humanitarian Law. What a ludicrous equivalence.

[@yoliewalker4582]

SHAMELESS ACTS FROM SO CALLED LEADERS THE WORLD IS WATCHING YOU STOP THIS GENOCIDE NOW AND SO IT IS Thank you most HIGH GOD 🌹

[@JohnMckenna-kf9vx]

He is talking nonsense about the "parts tracking." Even in commercial aircraft construction, parts are tracked meticulously. Each individual process undertaken on a part has to be logged and signed off during manufacture. All parts need to be traceable in the event of an air accident investigation.

[@HenriqueDeSousa]

Even more so on a very controlled program like the F35. All lies

[@alexxendramoose6723]

We should be doing something. Rather than all this talks. Look Gaza has been turned into a wasteland. This is madness

[@marketsolutionsdigital1238]

"We see the destruction and the level of it daily, but we're not ignoring it". What is this then if it's not ignoring it? Absolute shameful. The Hague awaits.

[@Hiphopoptimus-GG]

aiding and abetting?

[@JasonKing-m6m]

@@Hiphopoptimus-GG Enabling...

[@OH-uo3nq]

SAVE GAZA

[@IANREA]

Nobody asked what information gathered, who it is supplied to, access, etc

[@Alrukitaf]

Absolute weasels wriggling out of the questions. Denying knowledge and stepping side to side, irrelevant points. No accountability.

[@paulinegibson7010]

They are talking out of their……

[@R53Hole]

^

[@End_Orca_Captivity]

When it comes to politicians on KZbin, I always look to the comments first before wasting any time listening to more lies. I don't think I can watch this, it'll make me angry.

[@markbowden7238]

gross

[@gwynedd-1]

Wow. We shouldn't be surprised but... Who are these ppl. Who are they? Who do they speak for? Who is instructing them and paying for them Sick. Sick. Sick.

[@ntokozo5668]

Wow!!! This type of questioning gives one hope on some Western politicians. Honestly

[@SpecialSP]

Parliamentary BS …

[@carolberry2239]

They're looking very uncomfortable

[@AzizaSayed-n5l]

They worried about the hostages what about thousands of palistines thats jailed for no reason children as young as 13years on top they get tortured and killed

[@Ged-v8i]

Exactly 💯

[@ini4640]

this is absolutely wild

[@mbcfc]

Wow how pathetic are these criminals.

[@nabiljarad812]

Baffling really! They describe everything being “wrong”, “illegal”, “horrific”, but stop using the G word. Seems like that they have put their conscious on ice.

[@AubreyCosmo]

It's not difficult to say that you hate these people who are all complicit and now act as if they know nothing about humanitarian law corrupt bunch

[@johnaiken457]

Shame on Labour

[@Sigma10-c1k]

Conservatives were doin just the same level of genocide before Labour got in mate

[@geraldvaughan5103]

As a Defence minister you cannot deny your responsibility in this genocide. You are directly complicit. Shame on you.

[@plb475]

When terror took place in some countries, now we know who to blame

[@suleimanniven5119]

The questioners seemed well meaning but Ill prepared. George Galloway would've had them in tears by the end.

[@maweeindunna4791]

So you know what they did ,the question now is why they not arrested. ?

[@philippacasey4480]

Brilliant….loose the contract!!!

[@mandie6022]

Their body language says everything there is to know