Decoding Fascism: A Contradiction Or A Doctrine?

[@Unreal60FPS]

I like that you always make a huge difference between having just rightist views and being a fascist.

[@Retardead1997]

Only retarded reditors and twitter users think that

[@me67galaxylife]

because it is left wing in reality. the definitions of right and left have changed

[@mrsentencename7334]

​@@me67galaxylife A conservative in 1880 is different to a conservative in 1980. People need to grasp this fact if we want proper discourse because if not it serves nothing but a tool for propaganda for the powers that be at this time.

[@leninthedespoiler8113]

@@me67galaxylifeFascism doesn’t define itself as “rightist” or “leftist”

[@me67galaxylife]

@@leninthedespoiler8113Yes but that's itself, economically it is left wing, you know planned economy the state decides where you work all of that

[@roger18975smith]

Oswald Spengler looks like he’s trying to catch Heisenberg.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Nietzsche: "State is the coldest of all monsters. And when it says, 'I, the state, am the people,' that is a lie!" (Paraphrased) Mussolini: "So what you're saying is we need a big state!"

[@innocentsmith6091]

Nietzsche is the most cursed man in history. All of his warnings were taken as endorsements.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

​​@@innocentsmith6091It's actually kind of fascinating how his writings are used by anyone and everyone from Marxists to Fascists, and even classical-liberal Republicans; atheists, Christians, capitalists, socialists; pragmatists, nihilists, existentialists One thing I've learned is we're all temporarily embarrassed Overmen

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

​@@innocentsmith6091KZbin is hiding your comment...

[@yaujj65]

@@Chud_Bud_SupremeWhy many replies are hidden? It is a little bit annoying

[@Bingbongbag]

Cherrypicking. We take the best ideas from one thing and the best from another to make even better whole.

[@TheWayoftheSith]

Heroic realism suggested by fascists is the virtues of duty, sacrifice, devotion and, I would personally add discipline. Not just a shared or common goals.

[@Jojothegodofrandom]

Yea you def get that vibe with the aesthetics itself you see from posters and propaganda of the time

[@in.der.welt.sein.]

And doesn't every democracy also glorify those high values, and especially the soldier?

[@bighillraft]

​@@in.der.welt.sein. ultranationalism is usually anti-democratic

[@tylerbozinovski427]

Decent video. My main critique is that you characterised the ideology as "fascism", rather than "Third Positionism", since fascism and Nazism are just two separate branches of that same movement.

[@elcamaradabolchevismonacio2414]

Yeah I prefer it to be called Third Position. Calling all of the movements "Fascist" is kind of normie.

[@SeanMendicino-n3d]

@@elcamaradabolchevismonacio2414 And the N word is flat out npc.

[@gergelyritter4412]

I would agree, because as far as I know facsism is the specific "flavour" of third positionalism that was present in Italy. Facsism was the Italian third position, Na*ism was the german third position and so on. Hi*ler wasn't facsist and Mussolini wasn't a na*i.

[@DjDeadpig]

That was certainly a shock! Didn’t expect a video at this time. Thanks for uploading at this time. Just finished my core set of mock exams so this will cheer me up.

[@TheWayoftheSith]

Also Origins and Doctrine of Fascism by Giovanni Gentile is considered the grand father of fascism.

[@M.G.2000]

Gentile was more like the second mind behind Fascism after Mussolini, rather that a grand father

[@AnonymousIdealist]

The grandfather is Sorel.

[@AnonymousIdealist]

@@BingbongbagGentile did not create Fascism. He contributed to the ideological development of Fascism, but he didn’t create the ideology itself. Gentile himself joined the Fascist party later.

[@Bingbongbag]

@@AnonymousIdealist I guess I worded it a bit wrong, but you could argue that he served to formalise the intellectual underpinnings of Fascism, give it a real shape in Italy.

[@nachtwandeling1237]

Was surprised Hegel wasn't mentioned in this vid. Some of his ideas about the State are fundamental for Fascism.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

I love this! I'm so glad you revisited this!

[@TheWayoftheSith]

I think mustache man also read Martin Heidegger, Oswald Spengler and Alfred Rosenberg. Like Myth of the 20th Century, Hour of Decision, Prussianism and Socialism, The Decline of the West, and Being and Time. The traditional and rightwing books of the time.

[@zandrus9191]

Hitler disliked "Myth of the 20th century", he'd also disliked Spenglers' pessismism, he preferred reading "The End of Capitalism" by Ferdinand Fried for example.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

27:15 The state declaring imminent domain on your personhood

[@j.samuelwaters81]

Pfft, you weren't doing anything constructive with it anyway.

[@DinisF97]

"Individual and national identities inseparable" = "State owns you" Aren't you Canadian?

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

@@DinisF97 Who told you I was a leaf?

[@DinisF97]

@@Chud_Bud_Supreme Let's call it educated guess.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

@@DinisF97 Well you're wrong. I'm an American from a red state And anyways, national identity doesn't need a massive state. If anything, big government seems to erode identity over time

[@ramen201]

Day 6 of asking you to do a video on Franco and the Falangists

[@retrograd-e]

It would also be nice to see a video about the Carlists...

[@ramen201]

@@retrograd-e it would obviously be in the video.

[@loverofyurigagarin1149]

@@ramen201weren’t they more left leaning?

[@ramen201]

@@loverofyurigagarin1149 yes. I like them.

[@elcamaradabolchevismonacio2414]

How about a vid on Jose Primo De Rivera because Franco was a traitor that purged the real Falangists.

[@mrsentencename7334]

"Fascism is an ideology of contradictions because its always willing to contradict itself if it means it will get more power and influence" For me this is most ideologies. The Marxists are similar nor exempt and follow the same ideas, particularly around supposedly 'breaking the barriers between the elite'. I love how you understand this just like me. Many try and deny it but these 20th century collectivist ideologies are all equal in this thinking in my opinion. On palingenesis, the idea of 'perpetual struggle', 'progressive action', a constant revolution if you will, are all common themes between them. There was a debate between academics on whether the national socialists were revolutionaries or not, modernistic or anti modernistic. They themselves believed themselves to be both prior, but no matter your conclusion you can see the common theme of contradiction within their thinking. Marxists seem to get a pass on this which irks me, but in reality they are no different. This ultimately means I'm a fascist in their eyes, but they call anyone who doesn't agree with them either 'fascists' or 'reactionaries' while denying their ideological routes. This goes for the fascists aswell, which highlights another similarity. Non are distinct in that regard. I think fascism is nothing but a heresy of Marxism and a branch evolved from it. Even Mussolini and his followers admit this fact. It's complicated though because all individuals and their ideas are different and ideas only seem to converge when people form large politically motivated groups where the waters get muddied. Hegel's idea of the state being a spirit of collective consciousness that binds the people within the nation and determines it's destiny seems to unite them all ideologically, but if you divert from 'the narrative' of collective ideals, you're a problem for them and need to be stamped out like a virus in the body. They saw the state as a body politic after all. The Italian movement as a whole was nothing but a rejection of the internationalist ideas of the communists and primarily put focus on Italian national interests. Mussolini was called the Lenin of Italy. All of them are against 'capitalism' or at least what they viewed it to be. I'm still studying the subject so this is just my conclusion so far but love the insight.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Good comment.

[@NagandEmerald]

Something I would like to potentially comment on your take is that he also states that fascism doesnt have a core philosophical doctrine that embodies it separate of other systems like communism. It is contradictory because its contradictions are more evident with the fact that it cannot be justified by a creed or code. It is simply based on wich side of the population is more powerful, turning it into radicalized populism.

[@off6848]

@@NagandEmeraldI would say class collaboration over class war is what separates all fascism from socialism and capitalism At the end of the day the etymology is pointing at cohesion A 5watt light bulb of decoherent light is pathetic but a 5watt laser of coherent light will burn your eyeballs out It’s the same with a people or nation

[@NagandEmerald]

@@off6848 I must disagree on this singular principle. The only thing that separates fascism from socialism is that it politicizes what is purely an economic ideology and adds in elements of sociological conditions for it; the same is said for Communism. The difference between communists and fascists is one is ultranationalist, the other is internationalist. But both advocate for collectivist control over the state. The only one that's different is capitalism, which, you're right, espouses a degree of class cooperation. Fascists don't encourage class cooperation so much as they encourage pyramid scheme thuggery based on populism.

[@mrgreybrownin5039]

I appreciate the writing and wording of your video. Phrasing it like you're going back to correct yourself and expand on the thoughts. Good vibes.

[@bobbyokeefe4285]

You missed the opportunity to talk about Karl Marx's nemesis Pierre-Joseph Proudhon,he might be the closest to being called a Father of Fascism(though it's also unclear if he would've endorsed it),as a matter of a fact Sorel was in an organization called "Le Cercle Proudhon"in the 1910's before it was broken off by WW1,also I don't quite agree with the claim that Fascism was anti-egalitarian granted maybe not from an economic pov like in Marxism but never the less,there was a will to abolish aristocracy,Hitler infamously stated in a speech,that a German street sweeper was superior to a foreign King,Spengler once joked that Marxists were Proletarians whereas the Nazis were Prolet-aryans,you do find anti-aristocratic anti-monarchist left-wing plebeian tendencies in Fascism,especially in Nazism,the very idea of a supposed transcendental "New Man"could easily be linked to the Communist's Homo Soveticus or the New man of the Jacobins.

[@gergelyritter4412]

Your "quote" already works against you in this issue. If the street sweeper is superior to the foreign king, then they aren't equal. It's not egalitarian if different people aren't the same. I mean, what you could argue, is that facsism as the root concept, the one, which units all variants isn't by nature egalitarian, but that's also very difficult to argue. If an ideology is nationalistic, then it inherently isn't egalitarian, as it puts the specific nation and it's people above other countries and their people. Another problem with this idea is that facsism doesn't condone hierarchies. And if there are hierarchies, there are differences between the people. We should also add that many facsist leaders spoke about a new order, in which people would be categorized by the amount and quality of faith that they had in the cause. They talk about an elite even in their perfect world. So no, facsism isn't egalitarian.

[@bobbyokeefe4285]

​@@gergelyritter4412 That's a strawman argument yes in deed the quote implies that there is an inequality between the foreign king and the german street sweeper,but that is missing the point of that statement,cause it does imply however that all germans are of a superior stock by default just cause they were born aryans and that is in deed egalitarianism because you don't need to work or merit your status,anyone can have access to it,that is anti-hierarchy.

[@chekhososlanian1942]

There is no one more distant from fascists, than Proudhon. Calling the father of anarchism a predecessor of collectivist totalitarian nationalist is one of the most bizarre statements I’ve ever saw. The only things that unite them is critique of the modern state, the same as with other intellectuals, mentioned in this video. The main reason why Sorrel and Maurras called their group “Cercle Proudhon” was said critique, alongside with their desire to attract supporters of powerful french anarcho-syndicalist movement, an actual of Proudhonist ideas

[@in.der.welt.sein.]

​@@gergelyritter4412you could say they have an abstract egalitarianism within the ethnic or national group. It's not so different than the democratic ideology: that everyone who is a citizen deserves abstract respect and recognition for the particular role they play.

[@TCGdp]

Nonsense

[@Konrad_Festung]

Excellent video - very proud of Lavader for following up his previous video and admitting his mistakes. Very few would do that. My hat off to you sir. I found the definition at the end to be pretty accurate and in accordance with my own understanding.

[@bfmtrooper5454]

Slightly irrelevant but I do want to see your views on napoleon bonaparte, where you would put him regarding ideology and what you think of it. I've just been nerding out about napoleon bonaparte recently and thus am curious your perspective of it.

[@Cyricist001]

By his three principles, Napoleon would be a fascist. Ultra nationalist who put French people in charge of everything they conquered. Populist, no need to explain. And attempting the Rebirth of the Roman Empire. Of course that's nonsense because his three guiding principles can be seen across nations people would never call fascist ( USA up until the 60is, modern day China, Iran, SKorea, Turkey, India etc).

[@yaujj65]

@@Cyricist001I feel like at least Napoleon is more simplistic. He doesn’t hide behind ideologies. He just want to build his great empire, to be all and powerful. Like Dio, he just a simple minded ambitious man who want to conquer the world by using fate as a cornerstone.

[@yobalmer8936]

​@@Cyricist001lavader acknowledge those 3 terms are generally vague but in the video he clearly defined those terms in regards to fascism

[@pappgoosepappgoose3654]

It's always a good day when Lavader upload.

[@gmodrules123456789]

Yeah but isn't he taking a big steaming dump on your ideology?

[@Captain_Eagle]

@@gmodrules123456789Lavader didn’t say anything negative about fascism in this video unlike his previous video.

[@gmodrules123456789]

@@Captain_Eagle Did you not watch the video?

[@pappgoosepappgoose3654]

@@gmodrules123456789. I just like the astetics of the propoganda and overall fashion. I don't agree with the ideology. It's far too extreme for my liking. But I like that you spotted my pfp. It's crazy over how many peoples heads it flies.

[@The-christian-state]

indeed

[@AttilaKattila]

You could say Marxism-Leninism is a revolutionary socio-economic movement and Fascism is a revolutionary existentialist nationalist movement.

[@audrius337]

National socialism IS NOT fascism, yes there are similarities but they are significantly different

[@Valentin_126]

National socialism is the root of fascism and communism, of course they are different from each other but they are nevertheless from the same tree

[@Ayushgraphy]

The greatest example of fascism is Islamic Caliphate and daesh (ISIS) shares many features of fascism

[@mrsentencename7334]

@Meatball-Ron I'm of the belief that, yes it falls under fascism in the sense that it's a heresy of Marxist thinking and actively opposes it, but I do believe it is the synthesis of nationalism and socialism in an attempt to correct the flaws of each. This is why they saw themselves as 'third position' and why I think the German people were so attached to their ideas, it seemed to solve the problems of the time, particularly if you were 'in the group' they promised to help.

[@mir4924]

@@mrsentencename7334 How is it a "heresy of Marxist thinking"?

[@mydude3863]

@@mir4924 I believe they're referring to how natsoc evolved stemmed from socialism but violated core tenets, making it a heresy as gnosticism or nestorianism are to Christianity.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

BEST video summary on the topic I’ve ever found. Really well done.

[@RenStrive]

I agree with you But i think he need to make A third video with the left-over stuff the comment Mentioned.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@RenStrive fair!

[@theMOCmaster]

The core of fascism is everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state, the nation is viewed as a single organism, with a single leader as the brain, moving toward a goal, usually “Palingensis” as you say. Populism should be something more like collectivism.

[@Cyricist001]

You could say the same for communism, your quote describes it to a T. The problem with that quote is that it describes totalitarianism, be it China today, Germany 90 years ago, The First French Republic, The Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Iran today, the USSR, hell, South Korea fits the bill.

[@theMOCmaster]

@@Cyricist001 the difference between fascism and socialism or communism is that socialism and communism are ultimately individualist, they want to free the individual, from labor, from bad working conditions, from class. The goals of fascism are only concerned with the collective, the individual is like an ant, a self-sacrificial worker or warrior

[@theMOCmaster]

@@Cyricist001 communism is populist, about giving the people what they need, fascism is collectivist, about what is best for the collective, the goals of socialism are ultimately individualist, to promote individual flourishing, fascism the goal is about what is best for the state itself

[@Cyricist001]

@@theMOCmaster Communism is also collectivist, hell, theocracy is also collectivist. The goals of socialism aren't individualistic, communism is a very conservative ideology. Commusnism hated independant farmers, freethinkers, businessman etc Western democracies are individualistic and oridented towards individuals (hence the problems they now have with degeneracy and corporatism), communisma nd fascism are not. I was born in a communist state, I know how it works.

[@theMOCmaster]

@@Cyricist001 I’m not telling you your experience of communism is wrong, and I am not supporting communism. You are misunderstanding what I mean by collectivist, I know that independent thought and ownership were not promoted under communism. Fascism views socialism as comparatively individualistic because it is focused on materialistic improvements. I’m using a distinction that Giovanni Gentile, the philosopher of fascism, made, he called socialism and capitalism both individualistic. Both viewed the state as a tool with which to improve the material circumstances of people, in this way, the state is subservient to the individual, the state serves the individuals because the state is supposed to improve their life. In fascism, the individual is meant to give their life to improve the state.

[@marshall_zhukov]

The good ending for our civilization will not be fascist, but it'll look just like it

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

I think it will have similarities

[@Valentin_126]

A benevolent fascism which is not focused on expansionism is probably the best option, democracy has been showing its cracks for a long time now and people are finally beginning to see these cracks, just look at the EU for example, the “bastion of democracy” is full of incompetence and corruption

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

Semi-fascism

[@wasso9951]

As a socialist, Liberalism is NOT Socialism. Liberalism is inherently capitalist and does not call for the abolition of private property which is the foundation of socialism. @@constantinethecataphract5949

[@ihque125]

It all sounded pretty based to me

[@tagekoolander]

Were in the 20s again, soon itll be the 30s Will it all repeat one more time?

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Let’s find out. 👍

[@JohnnyJ223]

​@@AmericanImperium1776in the next episode

[@JohnDoe-37476]

i see you everywhere fella

[@tagekoolander]

@@JohnDoe-37476 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@Zathien]

A James Gregor is my go to source for explanations of fascism and my fav is Faces of Janus.

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

As a Britishman, I refuse to acknowledge the left or right spectrum as it was made by the FRENCH.

[@noname18305]

Yeah I don't really like it either, it's kind of limiting and binary

[@emperor6878]

Can you do a video on the Imperial German Government

[@Seanain_O_hEarchai]

@@Ratselmeister most people mean the Kaiserreich when they say imperial Germany

[@emperor6878]

@@Ratselmeister Kaiserreich

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Well it only took ya a friggin month 😂 Lol, on a serious note. Good vid. I disagree with you ideologically, but you actually understand your own beliefs and convey them well. I like your vids. Keep up the good work man.

[@americansyndicalist7602]

Lavander isn’t a fascist, but a Monarchist.

[@spiffygonzales5160]

@@americansyndicalist7602 I know

[@Mitaka.Kotsuka]

Why is it... that I always answer in my mind "that's right" when a quote appears on the vid?

[@Condance51]

Well, now I am struggling with myself. Should I prefer fascism now? It sound way better now 🤔

[@makuballz6516]

Yes

[@rwilson1197]

Not quite

[@altechelghanforever9906]

Uh, no. As the video stated, Fascism is all about the state putting up facades of ideology and being "for the people."

[@The-christian-state]

you should, its not as bad as people typically thinks

[@Condance51]

@@altechelghanforever9906 well in a matter of fact, it was for the people - or at least the living standard increased in the 3rd reich (don't know about the situation in italy)

[@fishdude666ify]

1:00 Today, we call that "moving the goalposts".

[@lithauth5180]

How lmao

[@Web720]

Have you read Neither Right Nor Left by Zeev Sternhell another great book on this topic?

[@charmyzard]

Always up for a part 2! In today's age when merely being a dissenter of the ruling class is enough to be labeled "fascist," we need these explorations more than ever.

[@10pmmemes88]

As a fascist this video was very interesting 👍🏿

[@bbalvlogs4275]

why black emoji are you black? just interested

[@10pmmemes88]

@@bbalvlogs4275 yes bro but I love German culture and Kanye 🙏🏿

[@nacolepanto3408]

What do you think of evola

[@The-christian-state]

same here buddy

[@austrianuser]

Hi

[@arandomuser3178]

Great video but you forgot to mention the economic pillar of fascism which is syndicalism and corparatism

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

Fascism marketed itself as a third position for a reason. It is a hybrid of both far right and far left philosophies, with the weaknesses of both and the strengths of neither.

[@vcxz5248]

Fascism was a movement against both liberalism and socialism. It wanted to be a third-way that was neither..

[@redcrown5154]

sure buddy lmao

[@AmericanImperium1776]

Hey, can you do a video on Dugin and the 4th Political Theory? I think it could be interesting. Keep up the great work. 👍 Peace ✌🏻

[@Pastel_of_Nate]

Truly a very thoughtful and well researched video. Would you consider making one about Salazarism (one of the mentioned variations)?

[@АлександрАлександров-щ7к8т]

"You want to know what fascism is like? It is like your New Deal!" -- Mussolini Communists take private property, fascists order it around. This is not that hard.

[@Worldmisery]

No. This is the real difference usually speaking. Communism takes private property from people who have a lot of money and then says that it belongs to the community. Fascism takes private property from other nations and then says it belongs to their nation. Communism is fair in imagination, Fascism is not in reality or imagination.

[@АлександрАлександров-щ7к8т]

@@Worldmisery And what property did Austrian fascists took from other nations? Are you aware that early Italian fascism was not only explicitly "communistic" itself (with Mussolini calling himself "Italian Lenin"), but also anti-imperialistic?

[@xiiir838]

​@@Worldmiseryaren't you going to answer? It's been three weeks, you should have an answer by now 😂

[@Worldmisery]

@@xiiir838 For some reason my replies are gone and I don't even know what I wrote. Thanks KZbin.

[@Cyricist001]

The same things could be attributed to the USA: It had extremely hard race-laws elevating those of Anglo-heritage, it was militaristic and expansionist with a manifest destiny, revolutionary in rhetoric but not in practice, spoke about a new civilization after WW2 ergo New World Order. AH policy was basically copied from the USA, only applied to different ethnic groups. Great Britain (basically the progenitor of scientific racism) was the same with the exception of the rebirth attribute because it was at it's peak historically, now that the Empire is gone we hear such rhetoric in the attempts to reestablish the Commonwealth ties. China today has every single point on this list, as does India, Turkey, Mongolia etc (basically every single none Western country can be labeled as such).

[@caonguyenngo8431]

Let conclude the World war trilogy then

[@threesixhomeownersassoci-lu5uk]

My dude. I could not be any more ideologically opposed to you, like, literally, I am, you know, inches away from what you would describe as an anarchist. I am more specifically like a mutualist left libertarian, or libertarian socialist, or something like that. But this is one of the most on point and accurate videos i've seen from one of my enemies ever. The nuance is there. Your sources are on point. Your information is on point. I just wanted to congratulate you for being honest despite your monarchist and conservative handicap. I'm impressed that you didn't try to argue that Nazis were socialists or something like that. You kept it 100. Respect

[@threesixhomeownersassoci-lu5uk]

I'm gonna subscribe to your channel. Don't take it as an endorsement Of your beliefs only as an endorsement of the effort that you put in to the video that I just watched.

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

Don’t worry about it, the only difference between a left lib and right lib is that one is richer than the other, you’re both degen.

[@noname18305]

Ur so full of urself, nobody cares what you do

[@diamondfighter7711]

Could you do a video on European colonalism?

[@makuballz6516]

been waiting for this video good video

[@Big-Eich-für-Parlament]

I played risk as Imperial Germany. As expected, Austria-Hungary stabbed me in the back because Russia had more capitals and i was stuck with france

[@GAIUSIULIUSCAESARAV1]

It could be answered as a "collection of totalitarian ideologies inspired in Julius Caesar"

[@kipkipper-lg9vl]

otherwise known as the common political tradition of western Europe yeah

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

Oh, you mean, Caesar? Or Kaiser? Maybe Tsar? Perhaps Cesare? Lol, clueless anglos, actually no, I hope you don’t have a single trace of European blood.

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

Oh, you mean Caesar? Or Kaiser? Maybe Tsaar? Or perhaps Il Cesare? Lol.

[@GAIUSIULIUSCAESARAV1]

@@MennydorgesERArchive sane quidem

[@BlessedCitizen101]

How about Franco or Pinochet? We all love the Austrian painter and the little man but that's all anyone talks about to be honest. But none the less, absolutely stellar video! 👍👍

[@Joshingtwwnrt]

Stfu little edgy bitch. Hitler is not based.

[@elcamaradabolchevismonacio2414]

Franco killed Fascists and betrayed the real Falangists and Pinochet was a supporter of free market Capitalism with right leaning authoritarian views.

[@JonBGreen91]

With your 3 criteria, I decided to ask ChatGPT on whether the Maga movement or Trump would be considered fascist. The conclusion we came to was that Trump leaned that way but did not get a passing grade. While he is a nationalist, he's not extreme enough to be considered an ultra-nationalist. Obviously, he is a populist, and it is a populist movement. And he doesn't fit the criteria of palingenesis. The Maga movement is not a revolutionary movement but rather a restoration movement. It has isolationist tendencies but is not complete. The movement does not idealize the past but accepts its failures as learning pains. And even if I were to include destiny's authoritarian criteria, Trump is not an authoritarian. He is a bully. The presidency is called as the bully pulpit.

[@lithauth5180]

Destiny is an asshat why would you listen to anything he says?

[@GLOBOCETA]

You should make a video about the integralist movement in Brazil in the early 20th century

[@anon2034]

Revolution of the Soul!

[@Kuudere-Kun]

The Palingenetic Ultra Nationalism is just Eco's thesis given a pithy name, and the thing is it only truly works for describing the Nazis and the KKK not actual Fascists. I consider Nazism and Fascism to be related Ideologies both falling under the Umbrella of Thomas Carlyle's Heroarchy. But they are still distinct within that. Yes Mussolini said Fascism would be different in each country, but that isn't sufficient to explain away these differences. There are differences between Mosley and Mussolini mostly defined by Mosley's British context. But they are way more similar to each other then either is to Nazism. And the thing is there was a Groups in Germany during the 20s who got political backing form Mussolini and called themselves "German Fascists" specifically to distinguish themselves from the Nazis. Der Stahlhelm, Bund der Frontsoldaten

[@zandrus9191]

Hello Lavader, before I got into the video, my conclusion is, contrary to Marxist historiography, you can find a very coherent doctrine within not just Italian Fascism, but also generically (therefore, other Fascist movements).

[@SimioniFeteroSungiJR]

I love you lavader my glorious king

[@dinataleluca7062]

Hey Lavader, I love seeing you coming back to this topic! I'm very interested in videos that talk about fascism and this one is no exception, I wondered if you might be interested in some videos that I saw before that are very informative of the topic, sharing all of their sources, if so, please tell me! I'd love to share them with you, anyway, that's all, have a good day!

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

Your confusion can be summed up as your desire to view ideologies as infallible Gods (btw french’s individualism as a coherent idea? Lol) rather than interchangeable tools for a specific objective (the prosperity of one’s culture, land and people), that does indeed make F. different than the other two that start with C., but to call it lacking under those basis is eh, debatable, or downright malicious depending on one’s interpretation of you, considering how the West is doing right now

[@barsukascool]

27:07 this is REALLY interesting.

[@josephdragunov374]

I wonder if I can share this on Facebook without getting suspended because it goes against the Community Guidelines

[@landonorris6]

Bro has never heard of giovanni gentile or gabriele d'annunzio

[@nolancer5974]

What are you talking about, he literally discusses Gentile in this video.

[@landonorris6]

@nolancer5974 yes, but somehow came to the wrong conclusion

[@larshaas2658]

Bravissimo! Hats of to you Lavander, i've never seen such a good video on fascism. Silly enough i learned all these aspects through right wing instagram just by interacting with people. And it definitely hits home, i recognised all these aspects the moment you began talking about them and it definitely reflects how i feel politically. Also what i know is that with the spiritual revolution, the concept of Heroism plays a big roll harking back to legends of old and the will to strive above and beyond. You should maybe also do a video on post war fascist writers like Julius Evola and Miguél Serano.

[@kotzpenner]

Destroying fascism from a conservative angle is my favourite genre

[@kipkipper-lg9vl]

it can't really be done since, conservatives have not conserved anything

[@jebise6656]

this!!! so much this! this is so hecking wholesome! you xir have just won yourself the internet!!! reddit gold

[@lithauth5180]

Take your meds buddy

[@JK-gx7kd]

Thanks for selling me on fascism. 👍

[@PairOfCatEyes]

Lmao

[@positivewheat2053]

Do a video on Baathism.

[@ZZactionwow]

What unites really fascism

[@ramen201]

@@Ratselmeister that's national socialism not fascism. National socialism is ret@rded.

[@ramen201]

@@Ratselmeister that's not fascism. That's nasional sozialism. It's stupid. (Wrong spelling because youtube keeps auto deleting)

[@konstaa5091]

​@@ramen201 the love for own its Own people is literally fascism. All the fascist movements base off their own people. Like Legionarinism (Romania), falangism (Spain, not Francoist), etc

[@ramen201]

@@konstaa5091 it depends on what you define by *people*

[@Web720]

Non-Marxian Soycialism.

[@EvanNauman]

I am fascist and I’m okay with this

[@deathdome2572]

Just seen a trashy streamer try and call you a fascist, people are beyond stupid

[@HansMcc1984]

There's only Fascism no "Classical Fascism." ,Mussolini & Mosely, everything else ,Falangism ,Nazism, etc. are not Fascist.

[@The-christian-state]

something that really pisses me off, is people (especially liberals) who confuse National Socialism with Fascism. They are not and will never be the same, it is 2 seperate ideologies, i as a Fascist want nothing to do with nazism at all, and it's sad that i need to explain this to people, when it should be easy to understand. One of my theories as to why Fascism is hated by people, is because they think it is nazism under a different name (When it's not) What i also hate, is when people say things about Fascism that is not true, like for example, that Fascism is antisemetic, when it is NOT. I as a fascist, believe in original Italian Fascism.

[@Mario._artist2]

welllll , the fact that word N*azi doesn't exist , Hit*ler didn't said word N*azi , 2nd thing , the german nationalism idiology was corrupted , the germans were not bad guys , as an example the racism , the germans didn't hated the non germans , even Mosley said it in one of his speeches , what he said it in conclusion that its's exactly like u have children and u want the best to them but that doesn't mean that you want to hurt the other children , so the meaning of racism in both of fascism and nationalism got corrupted

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

😂 Pathetic, you went and did the same exact thing Fini did, kissing a Yarmulke, guess what, Forza Nuova is still banned, and will remain so, regardless of how much you, or the entirety of Italy genuflects.

[@The-christian-state]

@@MennydorgesERArchive is a liberal mad?

[@Worldmisery]

​@@The-christian-state because they aren't really that different. What was Fascism? Autocratic dictatorship and imperialistic warfare. What was Nazism? Autocratic dictatorship and imperialistic warfare. In the end they both did many of the same bad things because the Ducebag was allied with the Führer.

[@The-christian-state]

@@Worldmisery you clearly know nothing about fascism. Nazism is racist, something fascism isnt. Fascism dont hate jews, Nazism is just cringe. Fascism is just better than nazism. Look up Fascism definition and learn the meaning

[@epic1049]

Could the OUN-B and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army be considered a variant of fascism?

[@benitomussolini8544]

Interesting brother, good video even if we are not ideologically the same 😁👍

[@VietReze]

First 😮

[@kingofcards9]

Great video.

[@Leonard-td5rn]

Poor Gentile minister of education murdered by partisans

[@huben_1337]

12:48

[@albertophillips515]

Talk about an actual monarchist issue instead of taking MONTHS to create a repeat of your last video.

[@SlavicWeapons]

Also technically germany wasnt fascist it was nationalist socialists while italy, spain , uk had fascist

[@Justjunniee]

National socialism is the extreme of fascism its like when people call the Nordic commie countries because of the socialist policies they have, their not wrong but not entirely right

[@kipkipper-lg9vl]

@@Justjunniee it is not really any more or less extreme tbf

[@adi0976]

Great video however I have a few small problems with it, some ideologies you've shown as fascist Aren't, well partially, let's start with the iron guard before codreanu's death the iron guard was supposed to be only a comon anti Bolșevic front and to represent legionaries in the state, legionarism originally was a spiritual movement to reborn Romania, as historical context the Romanian goal trough history was always to unite all the Romanian principalities/historical regions or regions with Romanian majority, in the interbelic period that goal was achieved but in the colective mind a question appeared...now what? The legionares seek to unite the people as the next step, Romanian society still being very divided, only a few rich had the opportunities to even get education, those being the aristocrats/or boyars and well, the jews 😭 , violence against the Jews happened because of that but also because the Jews in universities were mostly communist/socialist/Bolșevics to an extent where Iudaic and Bolșevism became synonyms, the violence wasn't racially motivated unlike the Nazis, it was in order to defend themselves against Iudaic-Bolsevism, it was neither religious because well, highly educated jews were secular Jews . Also a key point you forgot to mention, for fascism in order to be fascims it has to have the economic system of corporatism , and Romanian legionares were not corporatists , no they were agrarianists, this if I'm not wrong comes from Codreanu books and also from the actions of the legion, organising working camps where legionares in universities spend their summers working/helping local villagers in agriculture, seeking to remove the shame of the educated of working their fields , of not forgetting where they came from. Also the legion wasn't racially motivated and condamned Racism, quoting Ion Moța (the second or third most important legionare and a saint that died in the Spanish civil war helping our spanish brothers against Bolșevism) "Racism is the most vulagar form of materialism, People are not distinguished by flesh. blood or skin colour . They differ in spirit. That is creation , their culture and religion." Also an idea of Codreanu was the destruction of the political man , I can't remember the exact quote but it has the same essence as this"for he may seem to act for the people, but no matter the political colours , they act in their selfish interests". Codreanu was respected by the most important man in the Pnț (national peasants party) he said something in the lines of "Codreanu is a great man and a true patriot, I have to confess he has surpassed me , where I tried to solve the country's problems with politics , he was making the next political elites" .Codreanu was also respected by the king and he even asked to join the iron guard but he was refused . For more context the king wanted to put an end to pluripartidism in Romania by creating the FRN (frontul Renașterii naționale) seeing that the iron guard was more popular than his party and also heaving a lot of admiration and respect for it wanted to unite the two parties but this was refused by Codreanu. This later led to the assassination of the Captain of the holy legion of archangel Michael. Now here it comes into play Horia Sima he took power because the legion had a major flaw, there was a spiritual part of it and a military part of it (military in the sense of organising people not an actual paramilitary group) under him the legion has asasinated many that have assassinated or tortured legionares, in 1939 or how a friend likes to call it the great schizophrenic period, it was a period of dog eat dog where the king's man have assassinated legionares.He allied himself with Ion Antonescu and after a rebelion in wich the legionares had to kill to defend themselves Antonescu took power, he implemented racist antisemite fascist ideas, but he didn't have all of the support , there being a Codreanist camp (that's even active today) but the Codreanists couldn't take over, sima was the man who had the power to organise the people and the most important legionares from before the death of Codreanu were either death or imprisoned (Forgot to mention Codreanu openly criticised Hitler for being too preoccupation with race and musolini because he was too atheistic) Now with the falangists , we don't have to talk about the revolution because that's history, but Antonio primo de rivera didn't consider the falange fascist , in the early days of the civil war he was friendly towards fascists for obvious reasons (funding and help in the civil war) but post civil war he started to critique Hitler and musolini and fascism itself, a big part of the falange didn't saw itself as fascist , there are songs about it "viva viva la revolution", "ni Marxismo , ni fascismo" when Jose Antonio saw that the falange was associating itself too much it the fascists he wanted to abandon the project and to focus on a new kind of movement with the ideology of guild socialism. But that idea was scraped for obvious reasons, in public speeches that are on yt he said that the falange is a movement of it's own, that has learned from fascism about unity and from socialism about workers rights, most of falangist were unsatisfied or openly against Franco and the monarchy, we can see that from "ni Marxismo ni fascismo": - "Ni monarcha ni bankero falange stands with the workers" and from "viva la revolution": - "we don't need idiotic kings that don't know how to rule, we want to implement a Syndical state". Now Hitler wasn't fascist because he was faaar too focused on race and he wasn't even a nationalist, no he was a volkist , he wanted to unite the german people, be them Austrians , Germans from boohemia , Norwegians , or germnas from Poland, and I think he wouldn't have stopped there, once he had the power all of the German folks maybe except Britain would be under his rule,if he won the war. Also Hitler wasn't a corporatist, he was a socialist, it's in the name, national socialism, socialism that is not Marxist, therefore socialism that is not international. The big problem is that you confuse the third position with fascism, fascism is a part of the third position, that's why you see those "fascist" movements being so different from eachother, but also connected, it's the same as how conservatives and libertharians are right wing, and how social democrats and socialist are left wing..., now what is exactly the third position? The third position is what is not Marxism or capitalism, the third position is left wing in economics and right wing socially, I like to devide the third position in some categories. The corporatists, /national corporatism (ps corporatism is national syndicalism or not international syndicalism) : clasical fascism , falangism ,integralism , mosleyism Distributists: classical distributists, progresive distributists, social distributists , national distributists, monarcho distributists ... non-international socialism: national socialism, guild socialism Idk where to put them yet : legionarism , national Bolșevism. The most correct definition of fascism in my opinion is an ultra nationalstic ideology in which the economy is corporatist , authoritarian to totalitarian and it seeks to rebirth the nation , is anti liberal , anti -parliamentary ideology that requires a strong cult of personality to unite the people under a form of elitist populism "I, the people...". I wanna hear your thoughts

[@enocescalona]

stuff like this really makes me want you to do a collab with TIKHistory or a podcast like ep. Am curious what you two would think about each other's points.

[@PattyOflan88]

The width and breath of TIK is his only real selling point. That mofo will take one line from a 400 page book Hella out of context to attempt to drive a point home.

[@herrhelix223]

mussolini quote makes this entire video pointless and a contradiction

[@syourke3]

If you really want to understand fascism, just observe Israel. 🇮🇱

[@MBP1918]

🤯

[@jerryhoff681]

Nazism is not Fascism. Nobody in Germany call the nazis fascist

[@anonymous-cq7wj]

You're probably the most thorough and well researched anti fascist in the youtube politics community

[@Joshingtwwnrt]

Galloway won!

[@lukefriesenhahn8186]

The U.S. needs not a Fascist revolution nor rise to popularity, but a reinvigoration of the soul of America. We also need a revolution of Faith in America. For the last thing we need is a political up-rise, and dictatorship, when tensions are already high in the political sphere. NOTE: I am not a Fascist, just a conservative.

[@noname18305]

US needs a White revolution and a secular Republic, I do not want to follow your religion or have it taught to my kids in school

[@jrconway3]

According to some people, there's no difference between Conservative and Fascist.

[@redcrown5154]

@@jrconway3 a true conservative is a fascist too

[@GabrielRomeu-b2o]

Anyone can correct me if I am wrong on this but fuck it here's what I'm thinking: Fascism is a definable ideology, and I suggest looking at TIKHistory's videos on it, maybe you already have. But I will add a detail I see almost nobody mention. I would consider the common thread in fascism to be its roots in national syndicalism. You can think of national syndicalism as the parent ideology with many kids. National syndicalism was also a concurring idea among separate countries in Europe, like Italy and France. Maybe the first were Georges Sorel and the Cercle Proudhon, with Charles Maurras and others. Around the same time there was Gabriele d'Annunzzio and his typically left leaning economics with populist nationalism, even throwing roman salutes, yet never decided to join the fascist party and advocated for Mussolini to join the Allies instead of the Axis. Even before Giovanni Gentile, the blackshirts were initially just very violent national syndicalists who started using the word "fasces" to describe themselves. First child that national syndicalism has is its first born son: Fascism, the Big Brother. This movement caught the attention of the other nationalists. All inspiration was from Mussolini, who in turn got it from Gabriele d'Annunzzio. Only Mussolini made it popular. The NSDAP was deeply influenced by the aesthetic, discipline, and militarism of it, yet despite this, remains distinct, I would argue, even from this branch of ideologies we can call national syndicalism. It was inspired by a different set of core influences, mainly romanticist and racial, as well as even occult philosophy, where such philosophers would even develop the "Lebensraum" which the NSDAP was highly influenced by, and is also where the use of the term "Aryan" is derived from: The European occultist philosophers or "mystics" becoming aware of their Proto-Indo European ancestry. So you can think of National Socialism (or Nazism) as one childhood friend that Fascism would have to awkwardly interact with forever. A weird but very obsessed friend that freaked you out just a bit. National Syndicalism's other children, I would argue, are Falangism, and Integralism. I could be missing more. But these even like to make themselves somewhat distinct from Fascism. For example, although Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera heavily admired Mussolini, he did not ever speak of fascism in the first person. Falangists and Integralists (hardly) ever say "we the fascists" when speaking amongst themselves. And if it is said, that is meant to be taken as a form of inter ideological solidarity more than it is a stance reflective of internal beliefs.

[@Worldmisery]

I think Fascism was much more about imperialistic warfare than anything else. The invasion of Ethiopia shows an example of what I mean.

[@xiiir838]

Then the USSR would be considered being "that" ideology, since they split Poland with the Germans, not to mention they also added the Baltic republics by force, and the way they were meddling with the local governments of each of the soc. Republics

[@Worldmisery]

@@xiiir838 I don't deny any of this. Stalin was not a moral leader. He helped Hitler invade the Poles, he invaded the Baltic nations and the Finns. But when Operation Barbarossa began, the Western Allies gave their support to stop the Axis powers. That was all that mattered in the year of 1941. And when the war ended, Eastern Europe was under Soviet control. Eastern Europe was not liberated, but evidently they did not do the same monstrous aims that Hitler had. Hitler's plan was Lebensraum, the USSR never did this, they set up the Warsaw Pact to control Eastern Europe, but they didn't try to wipe them out and build settlements.

[@Worldmisery]

@@xiiir838 I don't deny that any of this happened or that it was the actions of a communist state. I only disagree that this was similar to Nazism. Eastern Europe came under Soviet control after the war as members of the USSR controlled Warsaw Pact, they remained part of the Warsaw Pact for decades. But the USSR never aimed to wipe out the nations under its control. That was exactly the plan that Hitler had in the plans for Lebensraum.

[@PattyOflan88]

That is an extreme oversimplification. Where did Franco invade?

[@Iroh-qu7wg]

@@PattyOflan88Franco was not a fascist? Besides Spain was so weak that even if Franco wanted to invade they couldn’t have done so.

[@eccoeco3454]

I would suggest Umberto Eco work on Ur-Fascism

[@So_and_so]

the book is very bad.

[@eccoeco3454]

@@So_and_so I beg to disagree... Although considering what followed I would say it's pretty useless to defend Eco to the fans of this channel... To each their own plus eh can't bother

[@MennydorgesERArchive]

@@eccoeco3454How about you go and defend yourself first from the mafia and camorra, terun.

[@So_and_so]

@@eccoeco3454 (KZbin did not notify me of the comment xd) The book is bad, just vague things and some outright false. There are better readings to learn about fascism.

[@LEWIS_sanders_9]

I know i dont like breadtubers but my take on fascism is that its a cope, every place where fascism was successful was in a place that was battered by humiliating wars, nazi germany it was ww1 for franco spain it was the spanish american war and mussolini's italy it was lack of territory for Italy from ww1, the list goes on and on but in the end its a cope

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

I think there is a large degree of truth to that statement, but most ideologies start as such. Communism was cope for the absolute hell that was the capitalist-dystopia industrialization was creating, and in the end it lost (I mean China's existence can be debated, but you really have to stretch to say it's faithful to communist creed by this point). Liberalism was cope by plebs against monarchy, aristocracy, and the church, where they had very very little power and is looking to be dying out as well. It makes me curious if it will survive this ideological crisis it has created for itself. All of the ideologies developed in the past several centuries have all been reactions to ills that have effected society (And I would argue a good amount of the ones prior). If fascism had survived WW2 I think it would have had a similar fate to the USSR, in that it slowly decayed and withered out as newer generations stopped giving a damn about the ideology and only payed lip service, it was stagnating in an evolving world, the problems that led to it didn't exist anymore, and finally the "old guard" would have died off ending the last of it's real support.

[@LEWIS_sanders_9]

@@DrewPicklesTheDark if you kill all the jews then who will there be to blame

[@johnisaacfelipe6357]

@@LEWIS_sanders_9 No one.

[@retrox684]

The goal of fascism is a hivemind.

[@leekah9981]

So you implying that the Cult of Personality in communism is not the same?

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

​@@leekah9981 Wait till you realize they're both cousin ideologies

[@kipkipper-lg9vl]

no

[@leekah9981]

@@ManiacMayhem7256 can't tell if you see that communism is just materialism and Fascism is just pure ideology.

[@Gingerphile00]

national socialism isn't fascism.

[@kipkipper-lg9vl]

the difference is irrelevant

[@Gingerphile00]

@@kipkipper-lg9vl the difference between communism and liberal democracy is irrelevant

[@kipkipper-lg9vl]

@@Gingerphile00 yeah exactly, it's who controls the system not what are the particularly of political philosophy

[@The-christian-state]

@@kipkipper-lg9vl no it is not buddy, why would you confuse a hatefull ideology who has killed innocent jews, with an ideology who believes in a strong state and corporatism, and tries its best to care for its people?

[@rarescevei8268]

They are both 3rd positionsim, taking from the left and right wing, however they arent the sane thing.

[@EthnoFascist]

What's also interesting is that some fascist movements were more antisemitic, others werent antisemitic. It, again, shows the variations of fascism.

[@EnvelopingSuspensions]

What unites really fascism