The Bermuda Triangle: Real Danger or Sea Legend?

[@jfuthey]

I love these because Simon just says whatever pops in his head while reading the script. Like “isn’t the Mariana Trench near there?” No, wrong ocean, but let’s see where he’s going with this.

[@eej1983able]

I go off on tangents too love it lol

[@mathish100]

😂😂🤣

[@rage9715]

It adds some personality and the writers do play into his tendencies. I would rather this style over dry reading sure the podcast ends up being longer but it's fun to listen to while doing something else.

[@michaelimbesi2314]

Naval architect here: Cyclops was once of a class of four colliers that were (allegedly) not very well built. Ship science was not as developed then, and practices that we now know to be bad were quite common. Two of her sisters are known to have disappeared in bad weather, and her route would have brought her into a severe storm. She was also carrying manganese, which is much denser than the coal she was designed for. Plus, she was overloaded because it was wartime and the manganese was desperately needed for the steel industry. Given that she was already overloaded, poorly designed, her design was likely susceptible to sinking in bad weather, and the weather was bad, it doesn’t take a huge leap of faith to guess that she probably sank in bad weather.

[@joshuasill1141]

One of the Cyclops' sister ships, the USS Jupiter, became CV-1 USS Langley. During the retrofit there was serious structural repairs made to the keel and to the ribbing to shore up weak spots where the acidic coal was eating through the metal or where there was serious metal fatigue from overloading. The two other ships, the Proteus and Nereus, were sold to the Canadian Merchant Marines and the Canadian Aluminum Company and were lost at sea following a similar route that Cyclops did in the 'Bermuda Triangle' hauling bauxite for aluminum production. Those two ships are widely believed to have been sunk by Kriegsmarine U-boats. Though no records exist of U-boats sinking these ships, it is theorized that the U-boat or U-boats were probably sunk before reporting their victories, and since it was during a war the ships would've most likely been under radio silence and couldn't call for help. I could've sworn that either the Proteus' or the Nereus' disappearance was already known and that it broke in half in rough seas and sank beneath the waves in a matter of minutes and that was the theorized explanation of the other ship and Cyclops' disappearance. However, I can't find any supporting articles to confirm this. It could've been that a ship in similar size and design as the three did break in half and sink and that was the applied theory for the other three. I know I've heard that, but I can't remember if it was from a TV show or from a book or article.

[@alekpo2000]

some dude said he found it during a diving trip in 1969 but nobody gave a crap to go back and check since well it isnt that important to the goverment

[@vik4153]

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[@harrietharlow9929]

@@alekpo2000 Depending on proximity to the edge of the continentaI sheIf, she may have sIid into deeper water. I say this because years Iater, the diver invoIved went back to the Iocation (off the mouth of Chesapeake Bay about where she would have been had she been on scheduIe). He coudn't find her again, which is why I say there is a fair possibiity she may have sIid into deeper water.

[@ZAV1944]

@@joshuasill1141 There was certainly no mystery about the Langley's fate, she was scuttled in 1942 after being critically damaged by Mitsubishi G4M Medium Bombers.

[@hollymartens8059]

I grew up on the East Coast of Florida. The weather conditions in that area of the ocean can go from placid to end of the world very quickly and without much warning. Plus, it's quite vast.

[@Arch3an]

Totally. I grew up in Florida panhandle and saw it a lot. That's not even mentioning the extremely large and powerful hurricanes it gets.

[@TheWarbirdMistress]

Florida (Weather)man at work.

[@dawnpalmby5100]

Isn't there also massive clumps of methane that release n can cause some crazy shite to happen?

[@TheWarbirdMistress]

@@dawnpalmby5100 Nice to hear I'm not the only girl with that problem time to time. Beets do it for me.

[@Zackaria_sMax]

Everyone here is lying! I grew up right next to Florida in Arizona, and I haven't seen any of this.

[@codyg7936]

Simon, if you don’t already have an episode on Rogue Waves I’m sure you would enjoy learning about them!

[@usMarinecuv902]

I'm pretty sure he has. I could be mistaken, but I think he has atleast mentioned it on an episode about a few people disappearing on an island. They were lighthouse keepers.

[@roosjen]

@bigigloousmc: yep, he did indeed!

[@annapierce8666]

Rouge Waves are real

[@IvanBaturaChannel]

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[@xprettylightsx]

@@patrickglaser1560 true

[@figure_0491]

For Simon, and those wondering, a league is roughly 3 miles, or 3 nautical miles. It was intended to be the distance a person can walk in an hour. It's not considered an official measurement any more. But I like to use it.

[@nanoglitch6693]

Also, iirc, 20,000 leagues was the distance traveled. Not the depth. Never knew a league was 3 miles though. Guess that means they could've circled the earth almost twice O_O

[@RAS_Squints]

I can't fathom why people use it

[@AntonioRibeiro-zz6zo]

@@RAS_Squints i sea the depth of your comment

[@timmoulton7590]

@@AntonioRibeiro-zz6zo it’s in a league of its own

[@jasontoddman7265]

@@nanoglitch6693 They did. Those darn continents were sort of in the way. 😁

[@ilajoie3]

Looks like Simon needs to make a Geographics video on the Mariana Trench. I'm actually surprised he hasn't already

[@zarasbazaar]

Yes, and discover that it's in the Pacific.

[@Kasaaz]

He seems very fixated on it, for sure.

[@Chef_078]

He’s clearly terrified of it. Did you not hear his 5 minute diversion about being scared of deep water? 😂

[@countblah7099]

@@zarasbazaar that good ole big brain at work.

[@Kasaaz]

@@Chef_078 Yeah, but don't... people usually avoid their fears?

[@rrg991981]

As a kid I thought the Bermuda Triangle and Quicksand would play a bigger role in adult life…

[@winterrye3022]

stop drop roll hasn't come up yet either

[@JessWLStuart]

As kid I thought I would play a bigger role in my adult life! 😁

[@joshuaeason3426]

As a kid I thought school was hard and adult life was going to be easy. I was wrong about both

[@Drewcatmorris]

Same here, add sinkholes to the list and my picture of adulthood would be complete.

[@rrg991981]

The Nevada Triangle is way more of an issue, since the 1930’s over 2000 planes have disappeared in the area from Las Vegas to Reno, then west to Fresno

[@jdropje8]

People who refuse to assume that there is a rational explanation because they think aliens and ghosts are more interesting remind me of the Douglas Adams quote: “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

[@taabisloof5298]

i believe there is a portal

[@johnvogel7057]

I love that quote!

[@TheFROMaholicFletcher]

The thing that catch me was the Columbus journey where they saw something falling from the sky on fire into the sea... Doesn't that seems like a spaceship panel falling from the sky? When it enters the atmosphere it supposedly burns... But, a spaceship in 1480s? Weird

[@vanyadolly]

What counts as a rational explanation? I think it's irrational to ignore other possibilities just because they can't be scientifically proven right now. At several points in human history we've thought we've discovered everything there is to discover. We've always been wrong.

[@jimb9063]

@@vanyadolly Yes that's happened, and that attitude is wrong. Any scientist who says they've discovered everything has ceased to follow the scientific method. They are human, and have an ego too like everyone else. There is no point in pursuing things which have been tried to be demonstrated but can't at this moment in time. Need to wait for a new theory or new equipment to test the old one. On the other side of the coin, empiricism is vital, but after a certain amount of testing, it's safe to infer that the same thing will happen again, until it doesn't. Hold a coin in your hand and let go, will it stay there, float up, or try to fall towards the centre of the earth? I'm sure you can give a good guess before you let go. Edit. Maybe an answer to your question about rational and irrational. Which would be the rational expectation of what will happen to the coin when you let it go, floating and/or rising, or falling towards the earth like the billions of other objects that humans have dropped?

[@jerlewis4291]

Hi Simon. My late father was a Naval Aviator and he was on the search for Flight 19. He flew out of NAS Banana River FL. He always had a theory that the flight actually got lost became disoriented in fog and didn't trust their instruments, what we now call spacial disorientation, and flew north and away from Florida. He figured that they flew north and out to sea. When they radioed that the "Ocean does not look right." To him and others that could only mean that they had flown out over deeper water because as you know water will look different from the air as it gets deeper. Eventually, you run out of fuel, but by then you are well out of radio range. Also, this was in the days when pilots had to carry navigation boards and instruments with them. My dad had been lost just a week before in an Avenger when he was flying a training mission with a submarine. Realizing he had not gotten the bearing and range from the sub as he left and knowing that he was off Florida he knew that all he had to do was fly west and eventually he would see land. All it took was to fight the "I'm lost" panic that sets in and think rationally. He did this and saw land. After 15 minutes he saw land and a road, so he flew low enough to read a few local billboards and finally got his bearings back. Again he stressed overcoming the panic reaction There were many aircraft that took off for over-water flights land-based or carrier and the aircraft never was seen again. Navigation was the key skill and single-engine aircraft did not carry a navigator who was an expert. I've sailed on warships at least 20 times and it is never as transiting the English Channel

[@jb4479]

This is the most likely explanation, plus the fact that most ships and aircarft that wnet missing were nowhere near what is called the Bermuda Triangle. Especially Fight 19.

[@bkayser05]

If I remember correctly, the commander of Flight 19 also confused the Abaco Islands, part of the Bahamas, for Key West which further added to his confusion since both look similar from the air. So he ended up taking the Avengers on a path that ran parallel to Florida in a Northwest direction rather then flying true West, which would have taken them back to Florida.

[@alexanders.1359]

The thing about flight 19 is the number. 1 plane and 1 pilot are likely to make such mistakes or succumb to panic. But with 5 planes it would seem likely that there would be at least a few level headed or experienced pilots in them who don't make those mistakes. If they manage to safe all the other planes with panicking pilots in them or not is another question. But out of 5 planes at least some should survive. 5 out of 5 lost is strange

[@jerlewis4291]

@@alexanders.1359 It was a training flight, the flight leader had the most experience, and he got lost. There's nothing mysterious about it.

[@oriontaylor]

The difficulty of over-water navigation in that era is also the principal reason behind why the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm fought for the longest time to include a navigator's position on every carrier aircraft, including fighters. Having high-performance single-seat fighters wouldn't do any good if they got lost all the time, the thinking went.

[@nanoglitch6693]

My favorite is "The Alaska Triangle" which is the area where most people in Alaska tend to go missing. I live in Alaska. It is huge and empty and their triangle neatly covers the areas where 99% of Alaskans live 😂

[@StrongDreamsWaitHere]

That’s a little silly, you might as well declare the existence of a “Long Island oval“, an oval shape which covers 99% of Long Island and in which 99% of Long Islanders who go missing, went missing from.

[@slenkish]

Everyone knows Alaska is where you go to hide bodies

[@maximiliand2544]

Ahh...The infamous Northern Triangle I hear tell about... 😆🤣

[@hanselmansell7555]

So basically just Alaska? 🤔😉

[@delamoxica]

@@StrongDreamsWaitHere But the Long Island oval is totally real and it's full of strange structures that may have been built by or with the help of aliens.

[@Chris-hx3om]

Speaking of how difficult it is to find stuff in the ocean, I was part of a crew searching for a downed aircraft in the Sulu Sea (Philippines) years ago. The area we searched was less than 100km2, and we KNEW the plane was in there somewhere, and the maximum depth was only 1,000m (Bermuda triangle has an average depth of around 4,000m). 5 weeks of side-scan and ROV surveys turned up nothing. To not find anything in the Bermuda triangle isn't surprising. In fact if they did find anything they were looking for, THAT would be the surprise....

[@ZAV1944]

It's a lot easier to find stuff in the ocean if you try and look for a debris field and then follow the trail of debris to the object your looking for. This was how Dr. Ballard found the Titanic, though this technique requires knowledge of the general area of where to look and with the cases of the Bermuda we don't have that knowledge.

[@Chris-hx3om]

@@ZAV1944 For our downed aircraft, we knew there wasn't a debris field, the aircraft sank in one piece.

[@toodlespoodles9842]

Finally this video is released! Simon has been referring to it. I searched all the past videos on all of Simon’s channels and couldn’t find it. Glad I was right😉💜

[@ThatKB89]

He’s referenced it often enough that I coulda swore it came out months ago and I watched it lol

[@breezus3928]

I'm in the comments looking for clue if this is a re-upload but I could have swear he already did this lol. I guess I'm thinking all of the many time Simon has referenced and said "NOPE! Not real!"

[@rosiejl2798]

Same! I was also expectantly waiting for the episode he kept referencing to drop.

[@EligibleBubble]

You know Simon, there’s a theory that The Eye of the Sahara is actually the remnants of Atlantis. It’s a very compelling ( and entertaining) theory that would make for a good Decoding the Unknown

[@murlocholmes4684]

Please please please

[@nanoglitch6693]

As much as that theory intrigues me also, I don't think there's been enough "on-site" investigation so I don't think it'd end up being anything other than just more unsubstantiated speculation.

[@JMurdochNZ]

Compelling? The similarity begins and end with "rings". That's it. The size is miles off. The location is wrong. There has been zero evidence of structures of the kind described by Plato. And it very clearly has not sunk. If you are going to consider Plato a viable source (and there are many very good reasons why you absolutely should not) then you need to take him as essentially accurate. I never understand why people will take what he said about Atlantis as gospel then immediately selectively edit what he said in order to bludgeon their chosen site into an Atlantis shaped hole. Is it possible that Richat informed his basic description of Atlantis? Sure. But it 100% is not Atlantis. Atlantis was a philosophical allegory, nothing more.

[@avr8844]

There's another theory about people being tragically gullible morons.

[@jennanail]

Totally! Love that one!

[@LogCap4Jobs]

As a sailor stationed aboard the USS Assurance (AG-521) in 1974-1975, I, and 11 other of my colleagues known as Ocean System Technicians, were tasked with tracking and identifying Soviet nuclear submarines utilizing what is referred to as a passive Towed Array Sound Surveillance System with the acronym of TASS, consisting of a very long cable deployed from a reel mounted on the fantail of the ship, with hydrophones integrated within the cable. Detected signals from surface or subsurface contacts were then relayed to the TASS van which housed the electronic processing equipment to identify the target with room enough for the technicians on duty to interpret range, course, depth, and speed. The U.S.S. Assurance was originally commissioned in the late 1950's, a 190 foot all wooden, flat bottom, twin screw mine sweeper, that was later repurposed and converted into an intelligence gathering platform specifically designed to track and bedevil Russian nuclear submarines. Certainly, we became the bane of existence to many a Soviet boomer sub Captain, thwarting their efforts to remain undetected deep below in the murky depths of Davy Jones locker, as they lay in wait on station off the coast of the United States for orders from the Kremlin to surreptitiously launch their long-range subsonic land attack nuclear missiles into the heartland of their archenemy, as we methodically and clandestinely plied the waters off the east coast of the United States, and beyond. During one of our intelligence gathering operations calling for us to make our way into and through the area known as the Bermuda Triangle while making a transatlantic crossing ultimately taking us into the Mediterranean Sea to further complicate and vex the lives of our adversaries (a story for another time), we experienced a perplexing "anomaly". It was about 2200 hours local, and off the port bow, there appeared a red signal flare rising into the dark sky, the international maritime distress signal known to all sailors. Even though we were conducting ops, we were duty bound to alter our course to investigate and lend assistance if at all possible. At our speed of approximately 3 knots (standard speed when towing the hydrophone array), it took a while to reach the area from which the red flare had been sighted, but upon arriving, we found nothing despite the efforts of the signalman called to the bridge, searching for signs of life with the signal light brightly illuminating a relatively large swath of inky black still water. Finding nothing, we resumed course until again, a short time later, a red flare appeared in front of us, but now off our starboard bow. Dutifully, we once again changed course to investigate, and when we arrived in the area where the source of the flare should have been, there was not a trace of a ship, a boat, a life raft, nor poor soul clinging to life bobbing in a life vest. This game of cat and mouse continued over the course of the next 5 hours with virtually all hands on deck to witness the event as word had spread fast. More than a few sailors, many considered as "salts", deemed so for their many years of sea duty, were openly terrified, some nearly breaking out in an uncontrollable panic, given the fact that we were deep into the infamous Bermuda triangle, notorious among mariners for the disappearance of hundreds of sailors and airmen, not knowing if this was to be our fate as well. The ominous red flare anomaly continued to alternately appear starboard and then to port with intervals of 10 to 15 minutes, until our Captain finally growing weary of the cat and mouse game, ordered the bridge officer to resume course and give it no further heed in spite of the phenomenon continuing until nearly 0300. Was it aliens attempting to lure us into a space/time vortex where we were to remain captive in an alternate universe? Or, the ghosts of some hapless souls who lost their lives in the notorious Devil's triangle? I have no idea. I just know what I witnessed, and there were a lot of sleepless, freaked out sailors onboard that night.

[@Big_Tex]

Too long didn’t read. Jeez guy get to the point.

[@Metallica4Life92]

@@Big_Tex rude much

[@Dank-gb6jn]

I can almost 100% gather that this is bunk. This reads like a television script, combined with a vintage radio play.

[@LogCap4Jobs]

@@Big_Tex Ok, fair enough. Some folks don't like to read as much as others. That's ok; I'll respect that and not judge.

[@LogCap4Jobs]

@@Dank-gb6jn Mr. Dank and fellow jackals: Lived, worked, traveled, adventured and explored 23 countries to date, 3 active warzone s, 6 times, Iraq, Afghanistan, central Asia, , Balkans, etc. Have you, or any of your friends ever traveled anywhere outside the boundaries of your town? Are you just a bitter person with a poisoned soul? If you are, it's not too late, if you will let the rage, hatred, and self-loathing go.

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

The Mariana Trench is south of Japan, in the Pacific. The Bermuda Triangle is in the Atlantic.

[@finneire1282]

Only a mini-brain would think the Mariana Trench is in the Atlantic 😂

[@justinriley158]

The Mariana Trench is 100% in the Caribbean, I’ve been on ships as they passed over it (kind of unsettling, really)

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

@Justin Riley then why is it named for an archipelago off the coast of east Asia? There are other abysses, you know...

[@TheHalfmoonsmile]

Just wanted to say as iam home sick after an arm operation, I live on your YT channels... And listen to u on spotify at every chance, doctors waiting rooms and or bed time...😅 Keep it happening my good man, much lub.

[@colinr1960]

Simon, as an Australian sailor ships would often stop in tropical waters for crew to have a swim…weather and time permitting. A scrambling net or ladder would be rigged over the side. A rubber boat (Zodiac) would patrol the area in case someone was struggling. A lookout was posted with a - in my day - an SLR rifle to watch for sharks. (He wouldn’t shoot the shark, but if it bit you he could shoot you to take you out with a lot less pain…”Well, looks like HE’S a goner! Better make it quick!) Anyway…we stopped out off the Great Barrier Reef where the continental shelf drops off and I was swimming away quite pleasantly when it suddenly occurred to me that there was a drop of two miles beneath me and the only thing keeping me from falling was water. It freaked me out and it was only with great effort that I composed myself and swam back to the ship. I go in at the beach but hate ocean swimming….

[@1337fraggzb00N]

It's called thalassophobia. Shit happens.

[@johnvogel7057]

We did the same in the U.S. Navy, too. It was pretty unnerving to me, as well, and I only ever did it once (and for only a short time), especially after the Gunner’s Mate that stood watch over us explained the fun shark fact…

[@markborn5293]

It wasn’t to shoot the shark… sweet Jesus.

[@OidipusPrime]

@@markborn5293 OFC it was dude. XD

[@ZOB4]

Finally the Bermuda Triangle video we've been hearing about for weeks! I'm excited.

[@onejerlo]

My childhood imagination portrayed the Bermuda Triangle as a stormy, foggy place with magnetic mountains that stripped away bolts from ships and aeroplanes.

[@mad0scientist]

A former co-worker had served in Navy land and sea rescue and was stationed in Bermuda. He said that most of the time they had to rescue people that DID NOT check the weather before going over the ocean in boats or aircraft. A common quote was "But it was clear when I left."

[@collincutler4992]

I've been through the Bermuda Traingle 37 times and I'm still here....or AM I? Am I in a different reality, where my original reality is searching the bottom of the sea for our sunken submarine?

[@mamanoneyall51]

As long as it's the Yellow Submarine 💛

[@collincutler4992]

@@mamanoneyall51 it may have been...I could only see the inside ;)

[@mamanoneyall51]

@@collincutler4992 😆 🤣 👍

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

Perhaps those who have been through the Bermuda Triangle are the same ones affected by The Mandela Effect.

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

One of the reasons I enjoy this channel so much is it’s like we’re watching you, the d*** head TA grading essays. 😂 love it! Great job as always to you and your team, Simon.

[@SlickWillyTFCF]

What fascinates me about this channel are the things Simon is certain don't exist, or things he is unknowledgable about. Like saying a massive sea monster is an impossibility, then almost immediately talking about giant squids that were all but seafarers legend until just over a hundred years ago; or thinking "leagues" are a fictional measurement; or being so far off about the location of the Mariana Trench. Another possibility is undersea gas deposits that are occasionally released. when water is aerated it looks like churning, boiling water and it loses all capability of providing buoyancy.

[@kaadhome5821]

Polaris is the current north star.. Also it does move throughout the night though like all stars not easily perceptible by the human eye. It actually circles true north and you can capture this via time lapse or long exposure photography. Beyond that our axis is drifting so that around 4000ce it will no longer be our north star, it will be replaced by Gamma Cephei. And the trench near Puerto Rico is literally called the Puerto Rico (Rican) Trench.... Not that any of this had any effects on Columbus or anyone else going through the area I'm just pointing it out for factual accuracy.

[@Julia-uh4li]

Show off 😉

[@rdfox76]

Not mentioned: Columbus suggested that they had merely discovered that, instead of pointing to the north star, it pointed to something else that happened to align with the north star in European waters. The crew accepted this explanation. Ironically, while Columbus didn't really believe it himself, he'd stumbled on the actual answer (the difference between true north and magnetic north) in trying to calm his crew.

[@AngryChihuahua]

I think I'm just as entertained by Simon's lack of geographical knowledge as I am by the content of his videos.

[@chadcuckproducer1037]

Watching him try to process a triangle from a sphere in a flat map was good too

[@00jyjsarang]

I liked when he said "I'd go to Bermuda" as though it weren't a famous and popular tourist destination.

[@black5f]

Mariana Trench 15000 km from Bermuda.

[@domhuckle]

He should really do a show about geography... Geographics?

[@jasonburt7160]

I love when Simon says He's heard of this before, when he's done like 8 other videos talking about it.

[@collincutler4992]

So the deal with the Bermuda Traingle. It's an absolute MASSIVE area that contains a huge amount off shipping traffic. If you draw a triangle that size around any major shipping lane, you'll get the same results.

[@sjean2166]

Especially when people add in any accident that occurs near the triangle too, because well...the triangle MUST have somehow been involved

[@LightBlueVans]

i keep trying to explain this but believers are dug in like a tick

[@morphman86]

The Sargasso Sea, just east of Bermuda, is another area that is steeped in just as much mystery in pop culture. It is roughly the same size and unlike any other sea, it has no land border. Instead all four sides are bordered by the great Atlantic currents, creating a clockwise rotating flow that seemingly bounces debris around forever. This is where the recently popularised plastic island is floating around.

[@davidconner-shover51]

Twas a real navigational hazard prior to powered craft in addition to the water currents slowly dragging you into the gyre, there is also a lack of rain and wind in the area. even Atlantic hurricanes have a hard time with that stretch of ocean

[@jeremybriggs1707]

I had always figured the Sargasso Sea was a big reason ships disappeared out there. They slip in and cant get out

[@ksed4113]

Yup, this gyre more likely lulled sleepy navigators to hypnosis. ;)

[@fishingwithkar4871]

I believe in the one theory I heard of a few years back about gas. Gas pockets in the bottom of the ocean when they release if a ship is going over that spot where the gas released it will lose all buoyancy and sink instantly with no warning. And there are certain gases that when released from the ocean into the air will go straight up the atmosphere and can affect aircraft. It's the only theory I've ever heard that truly makes any sense. Because the gas pockets are already known fact and it's not just there they're everywhere all around the world.

[@vanyadolly]

I've heard that as well. It could also explain some of the light anomalies that people have seen.

[@jimb9063]

Yes I heard that years go, it seemed the most plausible to me, maybe because it was the first natural explanation I'd heard. It can certainly be an issue to sailors in the water when ships sink anywhere. A big release of air from a sinking ship can save you, if you're being sucked under by the water following the sinking ship downwards. However, if a smaller stream of bubbles is escaping the ship, it can created a sort of tunnel, which you can 'fall' down to the bottom of the sea due to the air and water mix not giving you enough buoyancy. Terrifying! If a ship sails into an airy water mix like this it too will possibly fail to float.

[@Emcron]

the fact that disappearances/accidents are no less common anywhere else at sea just makes all of the oceans that much freakier.

[@eggsngritstn]

In sailing vessel times, there may be a slight complication within the Bermuda Triangle: the Sargasso Sea. It's simply a large area of ocean defined by a gyre (rotating currents) and a large amount of seaweed. These create some impediment to navigation. It's a contributing factor.

[@chadcuckproducer1037]

How do you know so much about seaweed in tn?

[@pfadiva]

@@chadcuckproducer1037 I'm assuming @eggsingrits can read...

[@chadcuckproducer1037]

@@pfadiva it was an odd way of saying I know what your profile picture is.

[@Meh-No]

I love Katy’s scripts. Side tangents are quite entertaining as well. Keep doing them Simon.

[@Meh-No]

Anyone that doesn’t want to hear about Simon and his childhood swimming class and diving board experiences is not curious enough.

[@whoever6458]

Ironically, I used to like to go to the deep end of the pool and see if I could swim down to the bottom. It's actually pretty hard to swim down and, the deeper it is, the harder you have to swim just to touch the bottom and then the faster you pop back up to the surface the moment you stop swimming really hard at the bottom of the pool. My main worry about the sea is mostly how far away from land it is rather than being really deep. I remember being at the beach one time and running into a sand bar where you were relatively far out compared to where the regular beach was but suddenly there was this sand like a foot or two under the waves. That actually unnerved me at first and then it was kind of cool to stand further out in the sea and it was kind of where the waves were about to break so it was a good place to start body surfing back into the beach, but it did truly unnerve me when I initially swam right into it. In my mind, the sea was supposed to gradually get deeper to maybe various degrees but I didn't think it should just suddenly be shallower. I don't know why I didn't consider the fact that islands exist as places where the ocean gets shallow again but I guess it's because it got above the waves and I just didn't expect anything to come up but remain just under them. I don't know why I thought that but I did.

[@terryenby2304]

I also have an uncomfortable feeling when I think about how deep water is, especially near me. I ant even swim in the sea unless it’s very shallow for a long distance because I start to panic about the deep bit near me 🤦it’s frustrating as one of the few movements my body can manage is swimming.

[@chadcuckproducer1037]

Those who don't have the courage to lose sight of the shore will never know the absolute terror of being forever lost at sea.

[@Luluthekitty23]

It's a natural survival instinct. Our first ancestors wouldn't have survived a fight with a croc, shark etc. So once the water gets deep and we can't see/fathom what's in there our survival instinct kicks in.

[@eej1983able]

I panic too...especially about the possibility of an undertow

[@Scudboy17]

As a former insurance agent, the fact that Lloyds of London- one of the worlds oldest and most respected insurance companies, one that specializes in naval commercial insurance- does not charge an extra premium to ships that travel through the Bermuda Triangle was all the proof I needed. An insurance company will charge extra for any increase in risk- anyone thats ever had their car insurance go up from a traffic ticket or accident will understand this. The fact that none of them do is proof that there is no extra risk or hazard to travelling thru the triangle.

[@ABC-48483]

Interesting comment, very comedic but true at the same time

[@TKBarnes]

7:45 this entire segment is just so beautiful. Simon, bumbling about trying to put as many hedge words into his statement as possible. XD

[@deaniej2766]

I just love Simon's lack of geographic knowledge, considering one of his other channels is Geographics. The Marianas Trench is in the Pacific Ocean, not the Atlantic.

[@mollywantshugs5944]

The lack of any distress call is the part that weirds me out in the cases where there was none. Ships take a while to sink, so normally you’d be able to send an SOS. I’m not suggesting anything supernatural or whatever, but the idea of a ship just sinking or otherwise disappearing without even having time to send a distress signal is still kind of disturbing.

[@brianpembrook9164]

Indeed! I could see a good excuse for non military planes going down. You panic as you drop and fail to remember to send a call out. Then again most planes discussed are military and ships, as you said, take time. The best I can think is something in the air, or water or even in the distant ground in enough quantities to block/disrupt communications. Perhaps pirates? *shrug*

[@cwam1701e]

Agreed! While I have no belief at all in anything "supernatural" happening in the Bermuda triangle, yet I do think Simon is overly casual (in all his videos) about the "no distress call" thing. A ship sinking and not being found - OK - the ocean, as Simon points out, is big. Same for an aeroplane. However a ship or a plane disappearing without a distress call is a mystery. A distress call takes little time to transmit, so why didn't they transmit one? Again, I don't believe there is a supernatural explanation, but something unusual must have happened.

[@easyenetwork2023]

@@cwam1701eSOS calls are incredibly easy too. Three distinct clicks on a radio is universal sign of distress even.

[@DemocracyOfficer2485]

@@cwam1701epretty sure there was some type of investigation into the area and they found evidence that there is very unusual and high amount of magnetic activity in that area of ocean. 🤷🏻‍♂️ it was something on like discovery channel or history channel in the early 2000’s. That explained why navigational equipment didn’t work and possibly communication equipment as well

[@mommy2libras]

Not all ships take awhile to sink in all situations. I'm not sure where you got the idea that it's always some gradual thing but that's definitely not true, especially in bad weather. And someone isn't necessarily going to radio in unless they believe they're in trouble. By the time they realize there's trouble, it may be too late to call for help. Either they've spent their time trying to rectify the situation until they lost the fight or something happened suddenly. Either way they may find themselves trying to get themselves and anyone else on the boat into life jackets, get life rafts or boats, etc rather than going back to wherever the radio is to call in, if that's even possible at that point.

[@ryanmiller6303]

To be fair, sea scorpions were a thing about 250 million years ago and they were fairly terrifying

[@TheBritt47]

I have a brother who plays Ark Evolved, he gets killed by sea scorpions quite frequently. Hates them.

[@katbailey1334]

I was looking for this comment! I too play ARK and I hate when so goddamn much. I was just about resigned to commenting myself, much better to see I'm not the only ARK/paleontology nerd here!

[@NamiTheNeko]

​@@TheBritt47Raptors and Purlovias are worse imo. XD

[@jamescagley6248]

Hey Simon. Love your channels on KZbin! The Bermuda Triangle is in the Atlantic. The Mariana Trench is in the Pacific.

[@chrisconner5777]

Is anyone else surprised it took this long for the Bermuda Triangle to show up here? It's exactly the sort of silliness Decoding the Unknown was made for. Also, this was the perfect opportunity to insert "I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens." Simon's team kinda missed that little gold nugget this time.

[@allenwarburton8627]

“That Sh*t doesn’t move, it’s a starr…” definitely my new favorite Simon sentence

[@skilledwarman]

For anyone who wants more info on Flight 19 I HIGHLY recommend youtuber Lemmino's Bermuda triangle video. It's in the same spirit as Decoding the Unknown where the focus is more on debunking the claims made than being like "this triangle is SpOoKy!" Spoiler alert, his conclusion was human error. But he also gives a more play by play recap of the situation based off official records including transcripts of radio messages Also edit: they get something wrong in this video. Sea scorpions are indeed a real thing. Or rather were. They're extinct now, but they not only existed, but were also apex predators in their day. I believe the largest species was something like 2 meters?

[@Eldexo]

Finally the famous 'bermuda triangle' video you are teasing in other videos for ... like a month or so..? And every time you do so, I'm furiously trying to beat it out from youtube, always ending up empty handed.... :D

[@rdfox76]

I got a copy of Kusche's book in the late 80s. One of the best reads I've ever had. One of the most important points from it that didn't get mentioned here: the Bermuda Triangle is only mysterious if you assume that there's a single cause to all the disappearances. If you look at them as individual events that may or may not be related, you suddenly see that, no, there is no pattern, that nearly all of them *do* have a possible rational explanation... and that most of them have one that is downright probable--just that they're all unconnected accidents that happened, just like accidents that happened anywhere else on the planet.

[@SomeGuy4245-f1v]

A nautical league is just under 3.5 miles, or just over 5.5 kilometers. The Mariana trench is in the Pacific near Guam and pretty much right between Japan and Australia. And there WERE sea scorpions, but that was a very long time before the dinosaurs and they wouldn't never big enough to sink a ship. Maybe a small row boat.

[@jaytrace1006]

Oh Simon! We know that the Bermuda Triangle is not due to aliens or magnetic fields. It’s all about ghosts.

[@katten39]

Louder for the people in the back! lol

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

Pirate ghosts

[@TheFROMaholicFletcher]

Yeah.... Because what Columbus saw falling from the sky burning was a ghost spaceship 🤣🤣

[@Yatezylad]

Love the shout out to the editor and writer as the first thing in the video. Massive respect

[@ignitionfrn2223]

3:55 - Chapter 1 - The mystery of the bermuda triangle 15:10 - Chapter 2 - The more "off the wall" explanations 24:45 - Chapter 3 - Aliens 27:00 - Chapter 4 - Other kinds of science fiction stuff 29:40 - Chapter 5 - Sea monsters 32:20 - Chapter 6 - Magnetic anomalies 33:40 - Chapter 7 - Natural weather occurences 34:35 - Chapter 8 - There is no mystery

[@chadcuckproducer1037]

My favorite part was watching him trying to fathom a triangle from a ball displayed on a flat map.

[@st0rmforce]

Talking about disappearances that are falsely attributed to the triangle: the Mary Celeste is another one. It's often linked in some way, but actually the crew disappeared nearer Portugal than the US and never sailed anywhere near Bermuda. Also Amelia Earhart somehow vanished into the Bermuda triangle, while flying between islands in the Pacific.

[@billbasener8784]

I had one of those hypercolor t shirts in high school. Can't believe they went out of style.

[@RobertMetzgar]

I just discovered Simon's podcasts. I think they're great! Informative and funny as hell.

[@therevanchist1123]

As someone who is definitely Not! an alien copy of myself, I’ve been to Bermuda, it’s really quite beautiful and a great place to visit with an interesting history. I really recommend visiting horseshoe bay while you are there, the sand is like baby powder and pink from the coral fragments, you definitely won’t feel like the same person when you get back 😉

[@shlomster6256]

At this point I'm rocking on silly tangents more than the actual (and well-written, may I say) content. Plow on, my good man!

[@Bermudaman]

Okay, well I'm from Bermuda 🇧🇲 Simon and fellow viewers, that makes me British 🇬🇧 by identity 😊. and I will say it's pretty much a scary myth. Only a conspiracy, there's the equivalent in the Pacific 🌏 too - simply known as - Devils triangle BUT 1 thing we both do have in common are the real Threat of hurricanes/Typhoons 🌀 They present a real danger to us - doesn't that sound frightening enough?

[@swiftycortex]

@SimonWhistler I didn't look through all of the comments to see if anyone had mentioned this to you, so if they haven't I wanted to inform you that Mariana trench is in the Pacific Ocean. I did see the top comment with @Ivan saying something about you doing an episode on the Mariana trench maybe in your geographic channel. I agree from what I have heard about the Mariana trench it is super amazing and I think it would make for it a great episode. Keep up the amazing work you're doing.

[@terryenby2304]

So I studied the Bermuda Triangle as a kid, and was convinced it was just a big patch of stormy sea that caused issues? Lol

[@ruthmeow4262]

Same here, must have read at least twenty books on it. And I determined, the weather is bad and there are some funky currents.

[@paulnolan4971]

@@ruthmeow4262 Hehe "funky currents" I love that. Yeah it's all bollocks ofc

[@gypsyart38]

Mariana Trench is the Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean has the Puerto Rico Trench and Milwaukee Depth, together known as the Brownson Deep. I love ALL of Simons channels! I love how sh!t pops into his head and just rolls out of his mouth with no filter. I look forward to every new video no matter the topic but I am always learning something new from him. THANKS SIMON!

[@danr1920]

If there was something abnormal, the insurance industry would change much higher rates. Also planes aren't boats, they sink in water, usually very fast. Gasoline evaporates fast and has no color.

[@brandonzilka1274]

Simon Whistler... the apex predator of rumor and mystery. The ultimate buzzkill. But I still love the videos and your quality analysis. Even when I disagree with your conclusions, you still give me things to think about, and the rationale behind them. Good work, and thank you!

[@aceundead4750]

It's really really really fucking sad that full hour+ evidence based investigative documentaries dont talk about half the facts that Simon's team will present in youtube videos. I am really really really glad that Simon and his team make these videos for us though.

[@jonathangrzech5017]

I'm 42. I've been swimming in rivers and lakes alot in my life. I still get unsettled when I don't know what is under my feet.

[@hanselmansell7555]

Toblerone triangles disapear the fastest.

[@eadweard.]

No thank you.

[@Textile_Courtesan]

Woohoo! I first encountered Simon about 7 years ago when he covered the Bermuda Triangle on TIFO. Excited to learn more!

[@nanoglitch6693]

I was wearing Bermuda shorts and now I can't find my legs 😧

[@eej1983able]

Ftw 😂😂😂

[@AlexirLife]

Nice work Katy 👏

[@normalityrelief]

I’m a bit terrified of ocean levels of deep water. I really don’t like not knowing what’s between my feet and the ground. Like, giant monsters.

[@bellasmom2597]

Dylatov pass was what got me hooked on Simon Whistler

[@Dank-gb6jn]

Idk where this would fit, but I’d love to see Simon do a “Bloody Mary” episode. Not the absurdly disgusting cocktail mind you, but the late night mirror game. Also, I’d like to add that NatGeo did an interesting film aptly titled “Drain the Bermuda Triangle”, and while I cannot recall all the details, the equipment used to simulate the draining was remarkably effective at showcasing every nook and cranny on the sea floor in that area. Can also sympathize with the thalassaphobia, (fear or unease about deep water). I absolutely detest deep pools, I’m always afraid I’m going to get stuck on the drain 😂😂

[@MrMancreatedgod]

I'd watch "bloody Mary in a mirror". Even though I've tried it an it's bs. Same with candy man. 🤣

[@Dank-gb6jn]

@@MrMancreatedgod my man, I used to *live* for those kinds of spooks and such back in middle school. Midnight Man, Two Kings, Daruma San(I think), etc.

[@nugboy420]

@@MrMancreatedgod oh thanks cuz I was like I have heard of Bloody Mary, but there was another one I remembered scaring us as kids. I forgot what it was and yes candy man was what I forgot.

[@Dampfish]

You can just watch The Modern Rogue's episode on that. It's been a while, but I remember it being pretty conclusive.

[@Julia-uh4li]

Very good idea to stay away from the drains of pools as many girls have drowned by having their long hair sucked in. Or so I've heard¿

[@houstonbaxter5537]

The rant about everything being "pointless" kinda had me laughing

[@MissPuppyfluff]

I believe that the fear of deep water is known as thalassophobia: as in it's less the fear of water or drowning, but more the unknown in the depths

[@djdrack4681]

Some historical navigational dangers are STILL in the day of precision GPS, etc a huge danger. Drake's Passage between Shetlands and Cape Horn is still considered the most treacherous route for everything from serious yachters to large cargo ships. The circumpolar winds in 40s-60 have names (roaring forties/furious fifties/screaming sixties). Its a testament to the fact that modern tech is just a +1 in our attempt to not die pitifully to these geographic/weather

[@djdrack4681]

@@karlknechtel8119 The areas are known for being some of the regions with highest chances for rogue waves to occur, and highest waves. I can definitely believe it:

[@cynthiasimpson931]

Sounds like Simon needs to read up on basic astronomy. Alpha Centauri is one of the brightest stars in the sky, true, but it's only visible from the Southern Hemisphere. The North Star is Polaris, otherwise known as Alpha Ursae Minoris, and is only visible from the Northern Hemisphere. The stars do move if you're talking about millions of years, but on a nightly basis it's because of the turning of the Earth. I've been an avid amateur astronomer since way before Simon was born, and I've also read quite a bit about the Bermuda Triangle, and according to Occam's Razor the least complication explanation is probably the correct one.

[@timmyboyuk2002]

Never been this early for one of Simon's videos before

[@joeyr7294]

Finally we get to hear Simon and Co. sh*t all over this history Channel bs!

[@DPImageCapturing]

Excellent episode Simon! FYI-Te Mariana Trench is in the western Pacific near Guam.

[@ZenTheForce]

"No magnetic anomalies" incorrect. The Bermuda triangle is confirmed to be the alternative location that our magnetic pole moves to during a pole shift, as the other one moves to the Indian Ocean.

[@eadweard.]

Absolute twaddle.

[@ZenTheForce]

@@eadweard. nice argument, glad to know I bugged the NPCs

[@eadweard.]

@@ZenTheForce Not everything is a computer game.

[@resileaf9501]

That's a nice argument, Senator. How about you back it up with a source?

[@thoughthazard9245]

@@eadweard. ok 👍 I'll pretend that's some sort of coherent point

[@MikeSaab1911]

Awesome video dude. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Bermuda triangle. Think you can do the dragons triangle one day if you haven't already? That's the Japanese version. Definitely look forward to viewing more of your content. Rock on.

[@CuAnnuvin]

The few susbstantiated cases I have heard of were either lost in hurricanes, or insurance fraud. Perfectly explicable.

[@MichaelEnsly]

Stars move through the sky during the night due to the Earth's rotation, however the North Star is at the position which the stars rotate around. For it to move its position in the sky is an impossibility.

[@natehanvey3911]

The Marianas trench is in the Pacific ocean near the Philippine Sea lol, its cradled by Japan, Philippines and Papua new guinea..still love the content, keep it coming 👍🤘

[@ricklodewell6012]

I'd love to see you do a piece on the "Shaver Mystery." Richard Shaver, who was deluded, wrote I Remember Lemuria in Amazing Stories recounting his time at the center of the Earth.

[@seriouslywhatever3234]

Honestly your nihilstic rant was the most worthwhile content on youtube it sobered me enough for a secound to try to time stap it. its around 22:00

[@es68951]

As a child, sailing through the Bermuda Triangle used to make me so paranoid. But I was an anxious child. And I’m still here. 😄

[@kxuydhj]

i've once heard a theory involving methane in the ocean floor which would supposedly cause issues with combustion engines and slightly reduce the weight of the water, affecting buoyancy. which sounds pretty plausible to me as i've never bothered researching whether or not that could actually be true.

[@paganphil100]

kx4uy8dh9j: That wouldn't affect aircraft though.

[@MarniBailey82]

Your tangent was very relatable. I , too, am existentially creeped out by deep water. And I was on the swim team, and grew up along the ocean. So the fear is not about drowning, it's just something so unsettling about the vastness of deep water.

[@Barney1051]

Simon, I feel like the most notable thing about the disappeared aircraft and boats in modern times is the radio signal. During normal malfunctions they should've been able to radio out (engine failure or sinking faster than anticipated). So these events would have to be accompanied by a radio failure as well.

[@Warrchild777]

0:34 LOL @Jen, nice edit. Cracked me up :P

[@Yatezylad]

The title '20000 leagues under the sea' refers to the length of the voyage not the depth which the nautilus was submerged to

[@seleneroutley3370]

Telling ghost stories at 13 and poring over Charles Berlitz "The Bermuda Triangle"! Totally awesome! such fun memories!

[@Yawnyaman]

Bizarrely vivid memories of reading that Larry Kusche book on a ferry from Rotterdam to Hull in August 1980. Its account of Flight 19 was particularly strong.

[@gordonlumbert9861]

Just as a note to Simon or whoever might be interested Leonard Nimoy(Spock) was a pre-internet factboy. He narrated a series called "In Search of" One of the episodes was a Bermuda Triangle episode. The series was done in the mid 70s.

[@benthomason3307]

as a kid I would frequently read stories of "lost time" in the bermuda triangle: people would disappear for ten minutes then turn up later with all the clocks off by exactly ten minutes, having no clue they were ever gone. that was the one thing I could never find a rational explanation for even when I grew more skeptical as an adult. I'm rather disappointed that factor wasn't addressed here.

[@tophers3756]

The thing about Flight 19 is that the pilot in charge was convinced they were far west (or southwest? ) of their actual location. He didn't believe the reading of his instruments that were likely correct. He thought they were in the Gulf region and so he flew east, further out to sea.

[@annapierce8666]

Simon your geography is amazing when you place the Pacific Phillipines Mariana trench into the Atlantic ocean Bermuda triangle

[@houstonbaxter5537]

New fear unlocked: swimming over the Marianas Trench with miles of sea and creatures beneath you.

[@Nostripe361]

Talking about other crewmembers being afraid to question the captain in airline crashes, there is some evidence that the Tenerife Airport disaster was partially caused by the crew being to afraid to question the impatient captain due to his seniority. In fact I think one of the changes put in place after this disaster was breaking down of hierarchy in the cabin requiring crewmembers to speak up if they feel that something is wrong and for the captain to listen and respond to their issues.

[@Just4FC]

Originally a league, derived from a celtic unit and adopted by the romans, was roughly the distance a person could walk in 1 hour. A Roman league was 1.5 Roman miles, or 2.2km in modern measurements. Argentine league 5.572km, French league was between 3.25 and 4.68km (changed many times in history). Spanish league (because we're talking Columbus here), 4180 meters, and the spanish nautical league 5903 meters... I could go on, but that is a good start.

[@LoganMcCarthy]

9:11 By far the most excited I've ever seen Simon discuss the US military

[@baronvonmaverick6119]

Ahh the wordsmith Katy, preemptively calling out Big Brain on his tangent bs! Made me chuckle, thanks :)