Deep Dive Scouting Report - Jayden Reed

[@michaelkastern]

For the RAS sticklers... Randall Cobb had a RAS score of 3.65 and he was a productive slot receiver.

[@brucefellenz7637]

Thank You; that actually makes me feel a lot better!

[@lukegavin124]

It's kind of fascinating how the gutekunst era has conditioned packers fans into believing high ras = good player. I believe it makes it easier but we've seen gute blow high ras picks that are out of the league a year or two into their careers.

[@liquidpza]

@@lukegavin124 By my math, that list includes a total of two players selected by Gutekunst in the first four rounds of any draft, which were Josh Jackson in the 2nd and J'Mon Moore in the 4th. We certainly can't blame the Jackson pick on pure RAS extrapolation, as he was the epitome of a ballhawk at Iowa, so ball production was a key factor there. J'Mon was a pure swing and a miss, but he also had solid college production at Missouri, so again not a pure projection based off of athleticism. Musgrave is the perfect prototype for a RAS projection pick, so we'll see how that works out.

[@MackP414]

I’m loving the young WR talent the packers have.

[@joshmadigan6158]

Hard not to be… sky’s the limit

[@andaimhineach4131]

Two large, fast TEs with big upside is pretty dang fun to think about too!

[@MackP414]

@@andaimhineach4131 no doubt. Even If this packers team struggle this year the future is extremely bright with the talent this team have. Hopefully the Packers have two 1st round picks next year which will add more top notch talent.

[@Sammy50599]

If he’s got Jaire’s swagger, you already know he’s gonna be good 👀

[@jaketiff]

With regards to Reed playing faster than his 4.45, Jon-Eric Sullivan mentioned in one of the post-draft pressers that they clocked Reed at 4.37

[@kylemtc2280]

Aren’t the official times pretty much 100% accurate because of the lasers? It’s an actual question, I don’t watch the combine and I’m not sure the accuracy of them

[@jaketiff]

@@kylemtc2280 The combine results are likely very accurate, but sometimes a player doesn't run to their full potential at the combine. Hand timed results at a pro day should obviously be treated with a grain of salt but it's an interesting data point nonetheless.

[@jankelsey9738]

Andy Herman fore filling our Packer fix talking about the new favorite GB toys. This guy is electric. Packer nation is excited to see these young guys grow. Thanks for all your efforts.

[@A_Bunch_of_Savages]

I’m a little surprised we haven’t heard a Steve Smith comp yet.

[@JonathanAnderson-cu1hq]

@@Python_Bacon kid is a great blocking Wr to be his size , so I’m guessing he’s pretty strong to be his size .. he has a big man game and his contested catches proves that

[@OverpoweredByMonk]

@@Python_Bacon I doubt it but it’s fun to hope. Steve Smith was a damn beast with the ball in his hands. Just stiff arming guys through the turf.

[@OverpoweredByMonk]

@@Python_Bacon yeah it would be amazing lol. Yeah I wonder if he’ll be first ballot or not. Imo he deserves it. But I’m biased. He’s just one of my favorite players - period. The comp excites me but I’ll temper my expectations just a bit lol

[@jonathan2372]

I am glad you seen what I seen in Reed.

[@brandonjohnson1724]

Nixon was a pro bowl returner last year. I really hope we keep using him there even though its been made clear he"ll be playing a lot of slot corner

[@LHSHarmon]

Really. What does that say about Eric Stokes health?

[@jqualls7901]

15:02 The best part about this no one is mentioning but I will, he's not surrounded by a bunch of 1st round receiver teammates to produce the numbers that he put up‼️🤯💯💯

[@andaimhineach4131]

Grit and toughness while not being big. Brings to mind Donald Driver. I'll take that...any day.

[@frostybluemoon7688]

Great work dude can’t believe u do this everyday congrats to you 🤘

[@ericsutherland4545]

Reed is my son's favorite Spartan he was pumped to see him go to the Packers Go Pack Go and Go Green and White

[@allenhonaker4107]

Varied route speed is what made Jerry Rice so devastating

[@andaimhineach4131]

Amongst other things.

[@erion2227]

Jerry Rice. Jayden Reed. Same initials. Same career. Just Ruminating.

[@MrHeeebz]

Wow, if Andy is that stoked about this dude, he HAS to be good!

[@erion2227]

Lol right! Andy couldn't hide the excitement. Barely even mentioned the negatives 😂

[@siegfriedherrmann5159]

Outstanding evaluation clip!!!!....can't wait to see him play!

[@stephenweiss6001]

It was Reed + a 5th & 6th round pick (after trading down twice from #45). That is pretty good.

[@josephlevash7964]

Andy, I had to go watch his highlights after listening to your review. How is his comp not Antonio Brown... Same exact height, weight, speed, passion and his movements are eerily similar. Let's go Pack!

[@andyemery4475]

Can't wait to see him!

[@robtyler9295]

Am I the only one that sees Reed has sinilar movement traits s Tyreek Hill?

[@bzeefs3]

I think Reed and Kraft are going to be the guys that rise to the top of this class. I'm worried about Musgrave injury history and lack of physicality.

[@lukegavin124]

Wish that mayer dropped to us. I think musgrave will be out 9f the league in a year or two

[@aaiirssjoy]

Musgrave only had one injury - ppl exaggerated it and it became a rumor. He’s gonna be fine. His 2020 season was shortened by Covid. Check sources.

[@aaiirssjoy]

And no, Musgrave will be really good by year 2/3. The only weakness to his game really is his YAC and he can still learn to improve that by letting the game slow down and becoming more creative as he sees he doesn’t have to just only run from guys but put a move on. He’s gonna see how it’s done - he just needs more reps

[@bzeefs3]

@@aaiirssjoy guys don't get better at YAC in the NFL. They either have that trait or they don't.

[@aaiirssjoy]

@@bzeefs3 I think it’s a matter of a guy becoming comfortable as an actual target rather than an afterthought which Oregon State had been doing with Musgrave until his last 2 games. If he gets comfortable in that role, he could end up adding to his skill set for after the catch… if someone hardly gets the ball then how could they. He’s fluid for a TE too so it is feasible.

[@jerryschutte6970]

Great stuff ANDY!!!

[@SapphicTwist]

Also, not making excuses, but Reed had an eye infection and had vision out of only one eye at the Combine, a real distraction. Packers say they timed him at 4.37 on his Pro Day

[@josephgleason6534]

He may be undersized, but watch him take contact. The number of times it looked like he was catching a hospital pass only to break the safety’s tackle attempt was ridiculous.

[@mikeb3365]

The potential of our young WR room will be limited only by the creativity of MLF offense. GPG! I'm excited. By the way Andy, you would thrive as a car salesman too, perennial salesman of the month!

[@NoLiMit84]

Love this pick, imo perfect comparison will be Antonio Brown. Brown was 5’10, 186 when he was drafted. Reed actually tested faster. Can’t wait to see him line up next to Watson!

[@kingzut]

im sure he will be a great 3rd down WR and motion guy, and from what you said he reminds me of Steve Smith

[@tommyboy1971]

Where to you see Bo Melton landing on this team.... if at all? Melton is a bit smaller in height, but a few pounds heavier than Reed. He's also faster and had a much higher vertical than Reed. I think Melton would be a fantastic slot receiver on this team.

[@andaimhineach4131]

The Packers had him at 4.37 and in his post draft presser, coach referred to him as a sub 4.4 guy.

[@jjeshop]

Reed is gonna do big things.

[@jjeshop]

Even if he is from Michigan. Go bucks.

[@andrewmiller4664]

Jaden Reed OROTY!! LETS GOOO!!!

[@seabizkitsngravy]

Once this guy gets his opportunity, people will be saying, "JSN who?"

[@jakewettengel7708]

I agree the more I watch the more I like

[@otis3015]

He has Devonte's quickness and intelligence

[@Matteuslee]

I know he doesn’t have exactly the athletic measurables of OBJ but they have identical size and play the receiver/returner position the same way.

[@JonathanAnderson-cu1hq]

Bird is going to be a problem in the NFL ...for him to be 5’10 ? He has a Steve Smith to his game ... very aggressive player ... isn’t scared to go get the ball .. body position is great ... very shifty ... and he’s a ball tracker to the T . He’s going to give any Db in the slot problems ... just like he did in the senior bowl

[@tadsomato1940]

Wow, Packers haven't had a WR this small since .... Randall Cobb. 😁

[@chrislangstaff]

Sounds like Steve Smith lite. This pick makes me agree with Nags that the DIC is the devil...I watched a ton of mocks etc and heard almost nothing about this guy!

[@TS1023TS]

Reed is under valued. His QB play was horrendous, and Reed excelled. Love the pick

[@joep.783]

🐐

[@sanjaysrik]

On the money with JReed pick

[@chadink]

In other words, Green Bay struck gold & dont be afraid to draft Jayden Reed to your fantasy team!

[@johnnyw8529]

So what I’m hearing is …. J. Reed bout to be OROY!

[@klohr311]

i wonder if packers scout charlie jones as well since they both have similar body size except for the age...

[@klohr311]

@Lafayette I wonder how many teams had jayden and charlie on their board...they same to have the same trait..shall see if they both succeed at the next level and maybe a better draft pick than JSN...

[@whisperecho7815]

Andy, if you're still reading comments on this one, do you think it's fair to say that Reed could become the player the Packers thought they were getting in Amari Rodgers?

[@timaj6580]

It's time for the young guys to move beyond the install mindset and just play with team confidence and hope, which will add to the quality of life in playing and living in Green Bay. That's the great thing about not playing in Chicago or New York.

[@cliffordwood602]

Cobb, 1 yr deal with the Jets ! More cheese 🧀 turned green!

[@Droid6689]

Seems like Aaron Jones burst and shift mixed with Jaire's attitude and playing WR. Could be fire

[@JonathanAnderson-cu1hq]

His burst is way better than Jones , hands down ...

[@Droid6689]

@Jonathan Anderson 🤨 No. You are flat out wrong. Maybe you are confused because Jones usually has to work through an oline. There is a reason Jones posted a better 10 yard split. Jones' burst is why he is such a top tier RB.

[@JonathanAnderson-cu1hq]

@@Droid6689 still doesn’t take away the fact that Reed has a faster 40 .. and he’s way more shiftier than Jones .. those are facts ...reeds foot work is smoother and quicker

[@Droid6689]

@Jonathan Anderson I never said Reed was slower or stiffer. I literally just said he reminded me of Aaron Jones because of his burst 🤨 As in they are similar and one isn't necessary better than the other at the attribute. Not sure why that would incite a fit

[@ihcterra4625]

I highly doubt Packers draft players because of high RAS. They draft players that are athletic and athletic players usually have high scores. In Reed’s case, he didn’t participate in the agility drills which probably would have pushed his score up over 8. There are a couple players the Packers drafted this year that didn’t have high scores for one reason or another, but when you see them on tape, you can easily see how athletic they are. Players can have a bad combine, because of illness, injury or just not participating in certain drills, but smart teams will not draft based on a workout. Don’t let the scores fool you, the Packers are drafting players they see as extremely athletic. High workout numbers or not.

[@brianmaafi]

Reed is 5'10 7/8ths

[@ravuamavunivalu7545]

Is he like Steve Smith Snr?

[@martensjd]

Amari Rodgers had a 5.37 RAS, but Rodgers was much slower.

[@jonathan2372]

Steve Smith

[@Almightydu]

With his skill set he’s better then Watson tbh true WR1

[@RobB678-x7k]

You can teach route running but you can’t teach speed. Trusting gute 🧀🧀

[@lakersin4latenightconvo]

Watson and dobs will have breakout seasons reed kraft must grave wicks dubose will feed off them Jones aj will help the run game we will surprise people we are the team nobody thinks is coming

[@jqualls7901]

5:01 I wonder if JSN has that same tenacity?!! 🤔 #InGutenkustITrust #LetHimDoHisJob #AaronWouldnt

[@odaydrums]

I read he is a big reach at 2nd round . We will see

[@davidanderson4547]

The president of player personnel sais he ran a 4.37 for the packers. I think he gonna replace Cobb easy

[@boutabag4337]

🧀

[@winninggambler]

if he is half as good as michael irvin at contested catches sign me up

[@death8844]

Reed is the new and much improved Bear killer. I believe he's gonna be better than Cobb

[@bartstarr100]

Anyone who watched the Badgers game against Sparty knows Reed can also throw.

[@BAF-ch4ts]

Here is my comp. Antonio Brown.! Hopefully without the crazy.